Czech Winter – still?

OK, sometimes I’m in an article, and there is a link, and the site has a list of article, and I wander…

So here:

Had a comment by Ken McMurtrie about something unrelated (Amish and vaccinations) that led me to I’d not heard of it before, and it looks interesting, so I poke around. Right off the bat ran into two very interesting article. One on the recent weather in Hawaii. They have had massive lightning strikes. Rather than make a ‘me too’ posting out of it, it’s worth reading here:

For the second time this year, Hawaii has experienced a spectacular electric show. In late February we saw nearly 21,000 lightning strikes in a five-hour window when a storm system stalled over Hawaii.
And if you look at a 30-hour window, Hawaii experienced a whopping 45,000 lightning strikes. Once again, residents were out with cameras and smart phones.

“As exciting as they may be to see and as neat as phenomena as they are they are exceptionally dangerous. Waterspouts can over-turn boats, they can swallow up swimmers, they can cause the water to drown you, the strong winds,” he said. “Lightning obviously can electrocute you and burn you severely and leave you either dead or with major trauma.”

OK, I’m thinking, maybe I need to track back the neat graph they have of lightning strikes and see if there is a way to use lightning strike counts to show that the PDO swap matters more than CO2?… then I stumble onto this other article about the snow falling in Czech Republic.

[Translated by]

Czech Republic – Although it is May, the weather is more like in February.

Not only mountain tops were covered by a layer of snow during the night. In regions of Liberec, Karlovy Vary, Hradec Králove, Pardubice and Ústí snow fell even at lower elevations.

In the morning hours a layer of up to three centimeters lay on the ground. Also at midday it occasionally snowed even in the lowlands, Prague-Ruzyně reported sleet.

The midday air temperature on the Czech territory ranged from 0.2 °C in Liberec to 6.5 °C in the Brno area. At the top of Jeseník the temperature fell to -4.4 °C

The Czech Republic is the coldest

On top of the cold weather wind speeds reached 4-8 m/s, sometimes with gusts of around 15 m/s, which reduces the felt air temperature by 2 °C. The weather is more like in February. These low temperatures are caused by cold northern air currents[…]

OK, now I’m realizing that this is an interesting place to visit… and thinking maybe I need to look for some historical data on the Czech Republic spring to know just how normal, or not, this Prague Spring might be…

I did find a rather nice picture of the snowfall here:

and a check of the typical weather does make it look like this is a bit late for snow. Perhaps we have someone Czech reading who could comment on how usual, or not, this kind of May Snow might be?

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21 Responses to Czech Winter – still?

  1. Chuckles says:

    And ‘Czech out’ the Poles as well –

  2. Pavel says:

    The snow in May in Czechia? No! We have here an usual period of cold weather which we call “Frozen Men” during name-days of st.Pancracius, st.Servacius and st. Bonifacius (and Zofie, as a lady following them in the calendar), during the mid of May. It usually freezes in the early morning during this period and it is advised for gardeners to respect it. But we do not have snow during this time! We notice usually a cold and windy weather during the last weekend of May as it is a typical weather accompanying the eldest rowing competition on the continent: the Cup of Mayor of Prague (eight) and slightly younger competition in skif, the Cup of Roesler-Orovsky. But it does not snow again. And the beginning of May is usually a sweet warm t-shirt weather!
    If there is an interest of data analyzing, there are available temperature data from an observatory of Klementinum in the Old Town of Prague. The data records are available for a period starting by the year 1775 and there is the usual problem of the urban heat island… the observatory tower is 300 meters from Charles Bridge. Which means plenty of space for data homogenisation and other manipulations to compensate for the heat island and for the transfer of data source to the Prague Ruzyně and Prague Kbely airports… to get the required result, supporting the holly warming!
    I do not want to see my bill for the gas for heating during this winter!!! The last winter was disgusting but this one was really special. Merino wooll starts to be prefered material for first layer and for sweaters even here in Prague. I start to understand why some species of birds migrate to South on the beginning of winter…

  3. R. de Haan says:

    We had snow in Germany in the hills from 200 meters
    and there was also snow in Poland.

    Fortunately temperatures are on the rise again but this sneak cold attack killed a lot of plants

    What’s strange is that there was no snow forecast for the hit area’s at:

    At the SH we see lot’s of cold on the move to Australia and New Zealand.

  4. R. de Haan says:

    A friend of mine who runs a factory in the Pfalz area switched his winter tires last week. Three day’s ago he switched his summer tires for winter tires again because the road to his factory was completely iced over.

  5. bulaman says:

    You could always visit Lubos. I am sure the 2 of you could cook up the answers to the big questions Hint not 42..

  6. E.M.Smith says:


    And here I thought you meant N.P. and S.P. not Poland Pole…

    Looks like they got snowed too…

    @R. de Haan:

    I take it you mean this article:

    It will be fun watching folks who have had to double mount their winter tires into spring shout obsentities at anyone telling them it’s warmer ;-)

    “Reality Check, please! We’re all done here at table 2..”


    Thanks for reminding me… I visit there from time to time but it’s been a while…

  7. R. de Haan says:

    “It will be fun watching folks who have had to double mount their winter tires into spring shout obsentities at anyone telling them it’s warmer ;-)”

    Yes, I had the same thought.

    The first word of an AGW alarmist and the guy is dead.

    I have solved the tire problem with new tires from Vredestein, all season tires with winter profile certification. No more tire changing for me.
    Wonder how far they will take me.

  8. Ken McMurtrie says:

    @EM. Cannot understand exactly but the link per my name took me to TIP site where I am also an author. I may have been logged in via that site when I commented. To the point – my own site is
    Re Sott, have found heaps of good information there.

  9. Ian W says:

    Interesting as UK is unseasonably warm with 31C forecast with warm air flowing up from the Iberian peninsula and Africa. Could this be another stalled out Rossby Wave?

  10. R. de Haan says:

    Snow is a thing from the past…
    Watch the weather forecast for…. Hawaii

  11. R. de Haan says:

    @Ken Mcmurtrie
    It was a small depression that came through.

  12. @ R. de Haan
    Having a problem with your comment:
    “Ken McMurtrie “It was a small depression that came through.””

    At the risk of showing my ignorance, could you please clarify?

  13. E.M.Smith says:

    @R. de Haan:

    I bought some Vredestein tires back about 1982 and just loved them. They actually stuck to the road better when wet than when dry. One of the first companies to make silica compound tires.

    At the time I had a Honda Civic and was commuting highway 1 in Marin County or the road over Mount Tamalpias. We’re talking cliffs and 2 lanes and hard corners and as fast as I could 4 -wheel drift it… I’d go through a set of brake pads in about 15,000 to 20,000 miles. (Later got 50,000 miles of normal mix with more freeway driving on a set of pads…)

    The point is, I loved those tires. And they cornered very well. Even in the wet.

    But they were only sold at one tire shop and by the time I needed new tires I was living 80 miles away…

    I’ll be fondly remembering those tires for many years. More than once I “did something stupid” and they kept me from going over a cliff. Once in modest rain on Highway 1 I was “booking it” into the hills. Came into a corner waaay to hot. Started on the brakes a bit hard and locked up the front wheels (an issue in the front wheel drive Honda then… when cranked to almost full lock turn…)

    After some fancy “pulse the brakes with one foot, give it gas with the other, modulate the clutch with the third…” while putting on the rear hand brakes “very hard” I came to a halt sideways in the road. Drop off behind me, mountain in front.

    The tires never had a problem. Little bit of “scrub” sideways, but always had traction. As soon as I was off the brakes a bit and turned the wheel a little into the direction of travel (that was off the cliff…) the front wheels started turning again and I was “back in business” and using “torque steer” with the engine to pull the nose back around the corner while the hand brake kept drag on the rear wheels so I didn’t overspeed (any more than I already was …) all the time burning off speed. I only ended up sideways because as speed got “low enough” I had a “pucker moment” and decided I could just get on the brakes and stop without going over the cliff (at that new lower speed)… because I wanted a “bit of a think” ;-)

    In front of me was a reversal of direction into a decreasing radius turn and I decided I’d rather scrub to a halt than try making an even more challenging situation out of it…

    I’m pretty sure that with any tires I had before or after I’d have whacked into something… they would have let go in the wet.

    I saw where Vredestein merged with a Russian company a few years back. Hope they didn’t drop any quality in the process.

    FWIW, I’ve found that same tire I bought on the “Vintage” section of their web site for “antique and classic” cars. I was going to order a set in 175/80 14 for the 240D Mercedes but already had a new set of tires… (195/70 14 with silica compound) and could not justify it…

    Let us know how they do for you…

    @Ken McMurtrie:

    I just picked up the link from your name on the comment, so it was what you were logged in as. I’ll swap it.

    That SOTT site is fun!

    @R. de Haan:

    that IS at 12,000 feet… but still

    Tonight: Scattered rain showers, snow showers, and freezing rain, mainly after 10pm. The rain could be heavy at times. Some thunder is also possible. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 30. Calm wind. Chance of precipitation is 40%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

    Friday: Scattered rain showers, snow showers, and freezing rain before 8am, then scattered rain showers. The rain could be heavy at times. Some thunder is also possible. Partly sunny, with a high near 40. Calm wind becoming east around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

    Friday Night: A slight chance of rain and snow showers. Partly cloudy, with a low around 27. East wind around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

    [more of the same deleted…]

    Monday: Scattered rain and snow showers. The rain could be heavy at times. Some thunder is also possible. Mostly sunny, with a high near 44. Southeast wind around 6 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

    So, Spring Skiing in Hawaii? :-)

  14. R. de Haan says:

    Here you have the snow info for yhe coming day’s from Joe Bastardi:

  15. R. de Haan says:

    @E.M. Smith,
    I will send them your testemonial to the Vredestein product. Vredestein is/was a Dutch company (now sometung with Apollo) alway’s fighting against the Michelin, Continental and Goodyear names. Because many of the big boys signed deals with the car manufacturers Vredestein had to be competative in price and performance in the replacement market in order to compete.

    I too have good experiences with their tires but over the past years sticked with Michelin.

    With their certified Winter tire to be used all season they have a new competitive edge.

    I just thought I give this new product a try.

    So I keep you posted.

    Ken McMurtrie
    @ R. de Haan
    “Having a problem with your comment:
    “Ken McMurtrie “It was a small depression that came through.””

    At the risk of showing my ignorance, could you please clarify?

    I am sorry Ken, I just watched the pressure maps on the tv weather forecast at that time and they showed a fast moving depression. Off course it could have been a Rossby wave, the jet stream over Europe is quite chaotic these day’s, but I don’t think so. There is still lots of cold in the North which was sucked in.

    The frost we had happened the day’s after the depression when the wind came from the north with a few very clear nights with great visibility.
    This clear conditions cause the heat of the day to escape into space very quickly causing plummeting night temps. At that time the day time temps were already in the lift.

    This is the jet stream picture of today.,25

    Chaos all around.

  16. P.G. Sharrow says:

    All this talk of snow and freezing rain is making me nervous as we had that this time last year and I am setting out my garden crops at this time. Repeat after me, “No more freezing weather”. ;-) pg

  17. PhilJourdan says:

    R. de Haan

    We had snow in Germany in the hills from 200 meters

    I had to do quick mental calculations to determine it is about 650 feet. Want it to get warm? Just invite me over. When I lived there, it was the warmest 2 winters on record (ok, that was 40 years ago, but still). I was so looking forward to some German snow. We got 4 inches in 2 years and all of it came the day before Thanksgiving the first year!

  18. E.M.Smith says:

    @P.G. Sharrow:

    Cabbages and Kales, Fava Beans and Peas, Turnips and Parsnips…

    Think ‘cool season crops’ and ‘short season crops’…

    I’ve not bothered planting any Tomatoes at all this year. In the best year they are marginal for me (and I need cool tolerant varieties) and this is clearly not the best (warmest) year…

    Maybe I’ll put together an article on “cool gardening” ;-)

    @R. de Haan:

    I’d love to hear that they taught their Russian merger partner how to make great tires, and that influence did not flow the other way…

    In the USA, I think their major marketing problem was that folks had no clue how to pronounce their name… IMHO and advertizing campaign that made fun of folks trying to say the name and ended with “No matter how you say it, it’s one great tire!” would help with the “afraid to ask for it by name” problem. Or they could just put some simple Americanism on the name, like “Vredestein Dominator – just ask for ‘The Dominator’ …” as a marketing ploy.

  19. P.G. Sharrow says:

    I’m going to cheat. We have a 1/2 hoop house against the south wall of a building. This is the upper edge of the kitchen garden that is on a southeast slope, should be a great place for peppers and tomatoes. Maybe I’ll get it covered by fall. I want good tomatoes for Christmas. Last year we just made Thanksgiving. :-) pg

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