“Gaffs” or just Speaking Truth?

Don’t know if the rest of the world is getting the kind of “news” that is filling the empty spaces between commercials on the USA “Nitwork” TV; but over here we’re getting a load of “Romney Gaffs” stories.

To me they just look like propaganda trying to masquerade as news.

In every case, what Romney is accused of saying is, quite simply, The Truth.

Now I know that politicians are supposed to lie like a rug, never say anything of substance, and smile and slime everyone; but can’t we just for novelty sake have a guy who sees a problem and says “looks like a problem” and sees comparative success and says “those guys seem to be doing a better job of it”? Since when has it become the worst crime in politics to recognize reality when you see it?

Brit Twits

Frankly, I’m ashamed of what my “ancestral home” has become. Here we have a guy who has run an Olympics, knows how to do it and what kind of problems are involved, and gets asked, basically, to critique the London operation. He says what amounts to ~”They had a couple of surprise problems that were notable, but looks like it’s working out.” and all hell breaks loose? When there WERE significant problems and EXACTLY the ones he mentioned? Would it really have been better if he’d said ~”Oh, everything is just wonderful. Great job!!” when the facts on the ground are clearly to the contrary?

Look, it was a great recovery to send out thousands of troops to play pretend security guards; but it was a screw up to have a security contractor have a ‘failure to deliver’ the contracted (and screened) staff. Somebody fell down on the job and didn’t do proper follow-up with the contractor to check performance to schedule. That Romney recognized that is a good thing. It said that he clearly knows how to do operations and could see the problems that need fixing. That the Brits had a hissy fit over it tells me they were pretty darned thin skinned about it all. Romney didn’t say “the whole thing is lousy and the Brits are screw-ups” but that’s how the Brits reacted. To look at an event like this and say “It has some minor issues that look like they are getting worked out” is simply the truth. It is substantially always that way. (Some more than others).

That doesn’t mean that the event was being ‘dissed’ or that the Brits were being insulted, it said, simply, ‘this is the reality and it’s OK’. Substantially what happens in every staff meeting of management looking at major projects. What are the issues, and are they being dealt with? Absolutely normal and something I would demand of any manager I was looking to hire. But I guess most folks would rather have a liar who tells them everything is Just Fine as their country decays into ruin…

Petty Palestinians

So in Israel he looks around and says ~”Hmmm… Two people in the same place with the same native abilities. One being highly productive under intense outside pressure and adversity. the other being negative and attacking the first while sliding into squalor.” and observers that cultural difference have some remarkable differences in outcomes. Guess what? That happens to be The Truth. Palestinians have chosen to define themselves via attacking Israel and NOT via building a good economic life where they are. Israel has chosen to define themselves via success despite everyone in the neighborhood trying to kill them AND a lot of folks in the rest of the world too. And they have been successful.

Is it BAD to recognize that reality? Is it BAD to say “Congratulations on your success.” to the successful?

My Take On Things

To me it looks like a load of manufactured stuff and nonsense. An attempt to paint Romney as a rube for propaganda advantage.

With that said, I’m not the worlds best politician. Probably not even a good one. “Folks like me” are often faced with a culture around us that seems to lie openly as a matter of course. Some of the standard ‘social games’ are just so blatantly false that it grates. Yet it is the cultural norm. So perhaps our differences in Point Of View are related to that. The one POV says that it is Just Fine to lie through your teeth as long as it makes everyone feel good. That saying “No Problem, things are wonderful” and “How Unfortunate that others have caused your [failure or success] and not made everyone equal”; despite reality being 100% opposite of that and it being blindingly obvious that reality is the other way round… that that POV is Just Dandy. The other POV says “This is reality, what can we learn from it? How can we make it better?”. And that reality based POV is wrong?

So we have this spectacle of folks in Britain (many my relatives, no doubt) and folks in Palestine, and the folks on CNN and Al Jazeera all ranting about “gaffs” and being all outragey over a person seeing and speaking the truth. But THAT is the right POV? Really?

And folks wonder why I sometimes feel like I’m on the Wrong Planet

It’s all just Sooo dumb and Sooo transparent and Sooo mindless.

But in my never ending efforts to learn to better “pass”; Notes To Self:

When an organizing committee has had a dramatic failure of contracts, failure of security planning, failure of staff to be made available, and must call out military forces at the last minute as a stop gap: That is not a ‘small problem with security that is being dealt with’ that is “Great job! Everything is Just Great!!”.

When one culture descends into hate, violence, being consumed by anger and loathing, and accomplishes very little but destruction; while a closely related group (both genetically and historically – including shared language roots and strong shared heritage) has astounding success by applying itself to education, work, and cooperative activity: That is isn’t due to cultural differences or a choice of those people. That is due to, to, er, eh… Well, I guess I’m a work in progress on that whole “lying about reality” thing. Maybe someone can provide to me the appropriate PC lie that is used here. Probably oppression or discrimination or maybe “unfairness” – those are all “the usual suspects” near as I can tell.

Oh, and Cokie Roberts is all convinced Romney went to Poland as a racist move to garner more White Votes? Really? Frankly, I doubt if most “Whites” in America even know he went to Poland. I didn’t until the news covered the Cokie rant. In the parking lot some Media Shill was hollering at Romney about how he felt about his “gaffs”. Romney was classy enough to just ignore him, but one of his aides told the guy to stuff it.

Hey, “stuff it” works for me. The guy is shouting that kind of emotional bait at a fairly solemn ceremony (don’t know what it was, but folks in uniforms were present and it looked like some kind of military / war shrine perhaps… Yeah, I ought to look up where it was, but I’ve got too much to do right now…). So this Rube is shouting that kind of crap and the most he gets is a buzz off or “stuf it”? He ought to be thankful he didn’t get time in a Polish Police Station for disturbance of the peace at a formal event.

So as far as I’m concerned, what Romney needs to do is roughly what he IS doing: Speak truth to lies. Show respect to the people and places he visits while being honest and true to truth. Ignore the carpers in the “press” and just keep on being classy. Nothing pisses off a low class clown like being ignored…

As for the Left Wing Media: They seem to be way too much “sucking their own exhaust” and way too much “creating a story” and not nearly enough in touch with the fact that the whole story is being covered by other folks. We can see what really happened and make our own decisions. For my vote, Romney needs to just keep on being Reagan like. Reagan was vilified by The Left for things like “Tear Down This Wall” and slimed in all sorts of ways. Just wore it as a badge of honor and moved on. “Teflon” I think they called him. So Mit, just ignore the rubes and speak the truth. Recognize problems when you see them, and note what will fix them. We need someone who is reality based and knows “you can’t fix it if you don’t know what’s broke.”

When someone has a Hissy at you, smile, and just say “Well, they do seem to be really having a bad day and are quite upset; I wish them a speedy recovery.” and go back to being yourself. Drives them nuts, makes you look classy, and gives me a nice smile 8-)

It is quite a treat to have a “Suit” that isn’t an “empty Suit” as a politician, at last…

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29 Responses to “Gaffs” or just Speaking Truth?

  1. BobN says:

    What we are seeing in the leftist media is an attempt to tear Romney down and discredit him as a viable candidate. They jump on any little thing and spin it as bad or distort the truth, this is all being done because Obama can’t run on his record, so go on offence and make up stuff if you have to, but keep the spotlight off Obama’s total failures as a President.

    I find the charges against Romney for racism to get the white vote as being humorous, if not sad. Obama comes out with a get out the black vote initiative and announces it publicly, but that’s not racist, Romney going to Poland is!

    The trouble with all this is that it works to some degree. We have some very uninformed people that just listen to a few sound bits to make their voting decisions. It also energizes me to help get out the vote to end our national nightmare.

  2. Kevinm says:

    Not many politically conservative middle class kids major in humanities at college. That might be a cause or an early preselection exercise. As a politically conservative reader, I recognize that ” the other side” has better writers. Even as I scorn the lack of research, fogginess of thought, failure to balance benefits against what they cost, and conspirational tone that assume the whole world agrees with some point when I do not, no not at all!… I enjoy the read and appreciate that assembling readable drivel is an art and a craft. Alas when I read material I agree with I often find it written in crude arrhythmic terms, blunt to the point and guileless.
    Bacon asked “what is truth”, and I fear my team reads that literally. The winning team recognizes the sarcastic aspect. With bold disdain for truth they eviscerate gaffeing conservatives, creating a narrative to fit a theme – the whole world agrees on the theme, embrace it.
    The fourth estate done in by the Nineteenth amendment? You just can’t ask that, whether there’s a case or not.

  3. w.w.wygart says:

    E.M. you might be interested.

    Richard Landes, BU history prof. who blogs at TheAugeanStables.com has an article this week on the Romney Palistine ‘debacle’. Landes boils it down to this:

    What culture means is attitudes towards hard work even among elites, the commitment to positive-sum game play (voluntary win-win relations), the treasuring of intellectual capital through encouraging curiosity and innovation and thinking out of the box, the principle of a rule of law that regulates trade, the acceptance of women into the workforce, the confidence that public criticism will not lead to violence… in a phrase a culture dedicated to making, not taking money.

    In particular I love the bit at the end. ” in a phrase a culture dedicated to making, not taking money,” fits so well with what I’ve been blogging lately about pirates.

    ~W^3

    http://www.theaugeanstables.com/2012/07/31/romney-cites-david-landes-offends-palestinians-whose-honor-must-be-preserved-at-the-cost-of-their-prosperity/#more-3931

  4. Andrew Newberg says:

    Palestine GDP per capita $2,900, Israel GDP per capita $32,000…

    From what I can tell (based on a quick glance at Wiki) foreign aid nearly eclipses Palestinian GDP.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_aid_to_Palestinians

    I guess Mitt could have complemented the Palestinian homemade rocket makers for all their ‘exports’ to Israel. Or perhaps he should have acknowleged the Palestinian expertise at tunneling under the Egyptian border.

  5. P.G. Sharrow says:

    The Lier in chief is beloved by the MSM Liers. Whom the Gods would destroy they first make mad. It appears to me the lefties are foaming at the mouth, Cool!
    I appreciate an honest man even if he is not as slick. Romney is winning in spite of their efforts or maybe because of them. pg

  6. It is interesting to me that Romney’s “gaffe” on Jerusalem being the capitol of Israel (which I just wrote about) merely echoes the official party platform — that of the Democrats, in 2008, for Barack Obama:

    Jerusalem is and will remain the capital of Israel. The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final status negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all faiths.

    From this website:
    http://www.democrats.org/about/party_platform
    (This link will change soon, to the 2012 set of promises.)

    Incidentally, the “incendiary” phrase used in Poland was “kiss my ass.” Nevertheless, the fuller quote was interesting:

    CNN: “Governor Romney are you concerned about some of the mishaps of your trip?
    NYT: “Governor Romney do you have a statement for the Palestinians?
    Washington Post: “What about your gaffes?
    NYT: “Governor Romney do you feel that your gaffes have overshadowed your foreign trip?”
    CNN: “Governor Romney just a few questions sir, you haven’t taken but three questions on this trip from the press!”
    Gorka: “Show some respect”
    NYT: “We haven’t had another chance to ask a question…”
    Gorka: “Kiss my ass. This is a Holy site for the Polish people. Show some respect.”

    Moments later, Gorka told Jonathan Martin, a reporter for Politico, to “shove it.”

    I can sympathize with the aide, while cringing at the use to which this is being put — while Obama tweets about his “BFD.” Gorka’s real (and quite proper) admonition — “show some respect” — will continue to be ignored.

    ===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

  7. Alex says:

    society has three phases of evolution:
    Barbarism
    Civilisation
    Degeneration which then puts us back into the barlbarism stage.
    We are now in the degeneration stage and will soon commence the barbaric phase

  8. The BBC also reported Romney’s sayings as gaffes. One nice one was “I like to be able to sack people”. This was said about services he personally receives, and in context it fits what I think we all would do. If you receive poor service when you take your car to a garage to be fixed, then you go somewhere else next time. If your doctor doesn’t fix your health problem, then you go to another doctor who’s hopefully better. If you find someone who gives you value for money and tells the truth, you go back to them and remain a customer. This is normal market forces at work, which leads to advancement – the garage with loyal customers makes money and grows. Trying to force people to continue to use a bad service because to do so is politically correct (or just expedient for TPTB) is not going to improve the service – that way lies decadence of one sort or another.

    It seems like Romney is saying the truth as he sees it. It also seems that this is somewhat of a crime in the news service’s viewpoint.

    At the heart of the problem is that, unless you can see and admit that there is a failure, you can’t fix it. This applies to politics as much as to engineering – in fact I’d put it as pretty well universal. Maybe a lot of the political differences depend on what each person sees as a problem. I see lack of education as a problem, I see lack of useful jobs as a problem, and I also see a decline of ethics as a problem (just a cherry-pick here – loads more available) and I would like it if politicians actually tried to fix them rather than paper over them. Having Black Awareness Months is a problem – such problems go away only when someone’s colour, sex, religion etc. are not talking points and are not given special considerations.

    As a European, initially I saw Obama’s promised changes as a Good Thing, but government has not become smaller and neither has the debt – I see no change, and the Emperor is still naked. Would Romney do better by applying Mormon values to the system, or is the system too big for a change at the top to make much difference? If he continues to say things as he sees them, then maybe this would be a change for the better.

  9. Steve Crook says:

    I think part of the problem with the comments your man made about the London Olympics was that he effectively stuck his finger into an open wound. We’d already had a lot about how the transport system wouldn’t cope, the G4S balls-up and other stuff that’s probably never managed to cross the Atlantic. The press here love to rain on any parade. So when Romney opened his mouth, it wasn’t exactly calming the storm, a bit like a visitor intervening in a loud family argument. For a few seconds there’s silence, and then *everyone* turns on him….

    As a Brit, I’ve got a fairly limited opinion on Romney. Frankly though, it does come across over here as him being the best of a bad lot, and that was before the whole business with his Olympics remarks. There seems to have been a decision to portray him has as gaffe prone as Bush Jnr and a rapacious, asset stripping, tax avoiding, overly rich, CAPITALIST who cares nothing for the ‘little people’. So, the nuanced view we’d expect from the British media :-)

  10. j ferguson says:

    Guys,
    My take is that these “gaffes” suggest that Romney is not a politician. Whether the president should be a politician is another question. The distinction is that Romney is a straight shooter. You ask him a question and you get his best shot at a straight answer – provided he’s willing to answer the question – and that’s ok too.

    A politician would hesitate and consider how the real answer might be miscontrued and filter the more obvious misconstructions out of whatever he says.

    It could well be that one of the reasons we have so much trouble with attempts at regulation of the laws of physics is that politicians are unable to deal with facts. They have to run them through whatever poltical correctness filter is installed in their POV.

    It’s also the case that there is a great range of quality in the filtered pronouncement. I would submit that most of the time Clinton was very good at giving an answer that looked like a straight shot that wasn’t.

  11. philjourdan says:

    #1 – I think the empty seats at the Olympics is proof of ROmney’s statement. Was the venue not the best? That is the question, not the truthfulness of the statement.
    #2 – Again, if one thinks the cultures of the Palestinian and Israelis (which BTW are the same RACE since they all lived there together before 1948) are the same, then one has checked brain into a locker and gone on talking points alone. It is clear the Israeli culture is far superior. The Palestinians can complain until they are blue in the face, but that will not feed one mouth or build one building. He was correct again.

    So we have 2 accurate statements by Romney. The problem is, while the media is trying to make them gaffs, most Americans see a molehill, not a mountain.

  12. Richard Ilfeld says:

    I have spent most of my life in small business. One of my mentors told me that the ultimate reality is when the sheriff padlocks the front door and puts up the auction sign…until then keep focused on reality and working the problem. That ‘goodwill’ on the balance sheet will bring $0 under the gavel. A gaffes-vs.-politically-correct campaign, reflective of a similar view of governance, will have the same result. Solving problems is very hard when you don’t define them properly. So I like the idea of a truth telling problem definer – even if some of us ‘can’t handle the truth’.

    Nonetheless, the left’s support for the Palestinians brings up one of what is to me the strangest features of contemporary liberalism: the adulation of really bad actors on the human stage. History is replete with actors who take up arms against authority. Folks who can’t differentiate between Thomas Jefferson and Yassar Arafat; who will send a kid home from school for wearing a don’t tread on me shirt, but are fine with Che Guevera, seem particularly far removed from reality.

    Gaffes are also used by the left to minimize transgressions – so its al all purpose campaign euphanism.

    In the financial world – a bank losing some shareholders money (but still being profitable overall) is a cause for congressional wailing and knashing of teeth: MF Global, on the other hand, is a gaffe.

    Yours truly, watching the debt clock and waiting for the sheriff…..

  13. Keith AB says:

    Dear Mr Smith, Mitt Romney is a Republican. The MSM will never, ever, see or report merit in anything he says or does. Their job, as you so rightly say, is to generate anti Republican propaganda. It’s bad enough when the European media do it but it is disgraceful when the American media does.

    The whole “Common Purpose” thing is just so burningly obvious and those Frankfurt School boys own the universities and the journalists that come out of them. Makes you wish for a huge “Reset” button so we can clear decks and get going again. This hatred of all things western ( and white ) is just a sickness now and a cure is needed. Romney looks like a good man who has done good things with his life and that alone disqualifies him in the eyes of these Lilliputians.

  14. R. de Haan says:

    I haven’t seen any “gaffs”, just clear plain speaking. But all this isn’t the worse attack from the left. What to think about the claim that Romney will trigger a collapse of world trade…..

    http://oilprice.com/Interviews/Global-Trade-Likely-to-Collapse-if-Romney-Wins-Interview-with-Mike-Shedlock.html

    I don’t think Romney is the ideal candidate fpr now because he’s a convinced warmist but for the moment any candidate able to beat Obama should be considered as a blessing from the sky.

  15. Jason Calley says:

    Once journalists have swallowed the kool-aid of “politically correct speech”, then telling the truth becomes a gaff.

  16. tckev says:

    From what I’ve seen and heard (thankfully) Mitt is not afraid to speak his mind. This has, in particular, irritated the journalists and their masters.
    The trendy lefties of BBC for one dislike straight talking politicians as this prevents them from endlessly peeling apart political speeches. IMO the BBC really enjoys Obama and his oratory. It gives them hours of program time dissecting each phrase, finding the minutia of meanings from each syllable – often incorrect meanings.

    The bottom line is – what does America want from their leader ?

  17. BobN says:

    @tckey – You pose a most interesting question. In the past we wanted honest men who worked for the good of their constituents and for the good of the country. I no longer believe that to be the requirements for those holding office. The US is undergoing major culture changes for various reasons, which is a topic unto itself. The changes seem to be asking for a Politically correct world where big government takes care of everyone and the business spirit is crushed by the demands of big government.

  18. Kevinm says:

    Agreed with the media bias.. However let’s not paint Romney as an honest straight shooter. Like all politicians his positions have changed to fit the people he expects to vote for him.

    What exactly is the mormon position on making war?

  19. I hope this doesn’t offend people, but it seems that in order to gain political office in the States you have to be pretty rich to afford the campaign. IIRC Obama’s warchest is around $10M. In order to be able to afford that amount of money, you either need – a large number of small sponsors or a smaller number of richer ones (who will want something back for their money) or you need to be rich by birth or you will have made a whole load in business. In order to get the first way (which has been portrayed at least as what Obama did) you have to promise miracles to the majority. The second way puts you in a bad position if you go against what the sponsors want. The third way doesn’t guarantee that you’ll be bright enough to do the job. The fourth way means you’re probably bright enough, but in the course of making a fortune you’ve probably broken the odd law here and there since it’s almost impossible to make a massive-enough profit without that.

    Does this mean that there’s very little chance of getting someone who does talk straight and is honest? Even if you did, there is so much media concentration on pretty well every utterance that can be misconstrued that the unfortunate who gets the prize job ages at around twice the normal rate (if not more). Look at photos of Presidents at the start and end of their terms.

    If you had that 10 million bucks would you try for the job?

  20. gallopingcamel says:

    Wicked government is the greatest curse of the Palestinians. Their leaders point to the distress of the citizens in order to get get aid. As the aid rolls in the leaders ensure that the misery will continue by diverting the funds to their own pockets and to buying weapons for attacking Isreal.

    Where is my evidence? According to Forbes magazine in 2003, Araphat was one of the richest people on earth with a net worth just behind the Queen of England. More recent estimates suggest that Forbes was low-balling:
    http://www.icjs-online.org/index.php?article=3749

  21. Dave says:

    The difference is that Romney earned his money and he isn’t a neo-Marxist. That being said, I have always been uncomfortable with Mormons based on the somewhat troubled history of their church. I think there are a lot of non-Mormon conservatives that feel this way but are afraid to say it. But when you stand back and ignore the pajamas and odd baptismal processes, you cannot deny that they build strong communities, families, and focus on educating their children well. If more people practiced those traits instead of ever deeper dives into moral depravity this country would be in much better shape than it is now. I think Mitt will be to GOP voters what JFK was to DEM voters (being that many feared he was an “evil” Catholic (sarc)). It says something that I am enthusiastic for Romney to win. That is how disgusted I am with the ideologies and total lack of respect for the Constitution as epitomized by BHO and the ilk that he surrounds himself with.

    As far as the Palestinians, if the Israelis where not there, they would simply be fighting each other. Their culture IS lacking and they have Islam to blame for it. It keeps them under the boots of oppression.

    Golda Meir said “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us”.

  22. Pascvaks says:

    More Gaffs? or Just Thinking Out Loud? –
    1. Obama and Romney are obviously trying to get their base behind them and create a swell that carries sufficient independents to put them over the top. But thinking about the middle, which I see as more than a little BIG and growing by the day, I see Romney doing far better than Bob. (But I am growing more blind and out of touch by the day, so what do I know?)
    2. Remember the Great Impeachment and Trial of Clinton? I admit that I had my moments of doubt about the integrity of old Clinton and I actually had a few hairs rise on the back of my neck when I wondered what would happen if he were voted out by the Senate. Even thought he was childish enough throw a hissy-fit to say “Hell NO! I won’t go!” and create a little crisis for US. Fortunately, or not, –whatever– it happened the way it happened. Now we’re at another bridge over troubled waters in the ongoing saga, and I’m wondering what Bob might have up his sleeve. I don’t trust politicians, especially macho-ego-filled politicians. This trait seems to be becoming worse in me with time, maybe the older I get the less I trust these people; especially the ones from Chicago. OK, enough background on my paranoia.

    So, regarding 2012, and the next 80+ days, if you were a South American Dictator or Soviet Wannabe might you also play all the REAL WILD cards up your sleeves if you wanted to WIN? Might you create any number of crises that only added to the anger and hysteria and fear in the electorate? If you were Chavez, how might you handle the next 2 and 1/2 months of baby kissing and hand shaking? (Since my mid-twenties I’ve considered myself a political fence sitter. I look for the ‘quality’ in the crap I have to select from. I don’t think there’s anything magical about this country. I think it got to where it’s at today due to the choices it’s citizens made day in and day out for over 240 years. Is it possible that Bob could pull off a coup? Sure! Will he? Damn if I know, but I sure don’t trust him or where he’s led this country the past ~4 years.)

  23. Tim Clark says:

    “BobN says:
    1 August 2012 at 4:47 am
    The trouble with all this is that it works to some degree. We have some very uninformed people that just listen to a few sound bits to make their voting decisions.”

    Bob, we’re on a thread discussing Mitt’s penchant for telling the truth, sometimes with ill effects. So i’ve taken the liberty of correcting your understatement:

    We have roughly 48% of the population who can’t read, add, think, speak the King’s language, drive safely, work, balance a checkbook, make change, read roadsigns, throw something in a trashcan, or hit the toilet. I meet one of each every day.

    We’re doomed.

  24. Tim – it’s likely that you are exaggerating the percentages somewhat. Consider how many people you meet each day and how many of that belong in that “48%” you speak of. The problem is that the people you are speaking of have a negative effect out of all proportion to their numbers. My own estimate is somewhere of the order of 1% of folks are really not competent, don’t think, whatever. The percentage amongst the young will be higher – takes a while to understand the needs of life and the bad examples get the most exposure.

    Where population density is low, there is less chance for anonymity and fewer interactions with people you don’t know, so in the countryside you’ll generally get less antisocial/stupid behaviour. In a city of maybe a million people, that 1% is now 10,000 people who are pretty anonymous and can get away with a lot of things because of this.

    IMHO, the majority of people are still wanting to work, wanting to improve their lives, trying to make the best decisions they can. We generally hear nothing about them, though – it’s not news.

    It could be that you’ll think I’m wrong and your area really is that bad. If so, maybe you should investigate the possibility of moving somewhere nicer. Maybe the Mormon values aren’t that bad….

  25. Pascvaks says:

    The difference between a Gaff and a Truth – who’s calling the shots? (Or who has a soapbox and a big loud mouth to shout out “Lie! Lie! He’s a Lier!”;-) The Power of the Press, or as we say now The Media, varies with who’s listening, how many Who’s are listening, and what the Who’s think if and when they listen. There’s probably more Green Eggs and Ham here than we care to think about;-)

    Something I saw this morning at another site that also relates to the problem of disinformation, outright lies, half truths, volume, repetition, and money:

    Quote of the Day – “He who angers you conquers you.” (Elizabeth Kenny)

    Remember: “There’s no rules in Love, War, and Politics, and in Chicago…” (I forget the rest of it, but you know what I mean, right?) Question: If Goppers are so bad at one, does that mean they’re not that good at the other two too? They don’t seem to have the keys to too many cities in their pocket do they?

    I can read minds you know, Mitt was heard to think…
    “Ahhh… decisions, decisions, decisions..
    Can I win it on the cheap? Can I take it on the fly?
    Must I sink to the lowest level to rise to the highest high?
    To be Prez or not to be Prez, that is the question:
    Whether ’tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
    The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Fortune,
    Or to take Arms against a Sea of troubles,
    And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep
    No more; and by a sleep, to say we end
    The heart-ache, and the thousand Natural shocks
    That Flesh is heir to? ‘Tis a consummation
    Devoutly to be wished. To die to sleep,
    To sleep, perchance to Dream; Ay, there’s the rub,
    For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come,
    When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
    Must give us pause. There’s the respect
    That makes Calamity of so long life:
    For who would bear the Whips and Scorns of time,
    The Oppressor’s wrong, the proud man’s Contumely, [F:poor]
    The pangs of despised Love, the Law’s delay, [F:disprized]
    The insolence of Office, and the Spurns
    That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
    When he himself might his Quietus make
    With a bare Bodkin? Who would Fardels bear,
    To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
    But that the dread of something after death,
    The undiscovered Country, from whose bourn
    No Traveller returns, Puzzles the will,
    And makes us rather bear those ills we have,
    Than fly to others that we know not of.
    Thus Conscience does make Cowards of us all,
    And thus the Native hue of Resolution
    Is sicklied o’er, with the pale cast of Thought,
    And enterprises of great pitch and moment, [F:pith]
    With this regard their Currents turn awry, [F:away]
    And lose the name of Action. Soft you now,
    The fair Ophelia? Nymph, in thy Orisons
    Be all my sins remembered. ”

    There’s something Hamlet about Romney.
    (Many thanks to Wikipedia and The Bard;-)

  26. P.G. Sharrow says:

    To have to choose between a pathological lier and honorable man, wow tough choice. pg

  27. Pascvaks says:

    @PG-
    That IS the question, tisn’t it?
    Obama&Co. says less about themselves and more about the American People at this point in time than they can possibly realize. If they win a second term, they and we will have crossed the Rubicon and there’s no turning back from the fall of it all then; from there we’re on to the Ides of March and Civil War and Empire and then Hordes of Barbarians at the gates, and wimpers and screams.
    (This will make a great book someday;-)

  28. P.G. Sharrow says:

    The Obamanation is only allowed on the world stage 7 years. Their time is nearly up. Next is wise old men. Americans can be fooled, but not all the time. Time for real change to take place.
    The invincible Soviet Empire evaporated in weeks, The Obamanation will vanish just as fast and the liberals will claim that they were not involved and so erase Obama and company from history books.
    May you live in interesting times. pg

  29. BobN says:

    Its refreshing to hear Romney tell the truth and its just disgusting to listen to an Obama speech, filled with lies. whats the most maddening of all is our left wing media will not report the lies. Our MSM is so in the tank for the DNC they should no longer be considered press.

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