OK, I’m getting used to the ongoing stream of “Those idiots did WHAT?” when it comes to… what to call it… it is variously termed “the Arab Street” or “the Muslim World” or several other things. The basic pattern is pretty clear. Somebody gets their panties in a bunch over something that’s really not very important, other groups exploit it to flame violence, then our idiots in government come out to try to sooth and smooth the whole thing.
So this fairly crappy ( in terms of production values at a minimum from what I’ve seen in the clips ) “Movie” comes out. Produced, if you can call it that, in Los Angeles. Some YouTube trailers go up, and all sorts of folks in the “Muslim World” decide to demonstrate their complete lack of self control and tolerance by having a tantrum. Well, I’m OK with that. The answer to offensive speech is, as Noam Chomsky said, more speech, not less. So some rube in L.A. is a movie maker “wannabe” and makes an attention getting bit of “D” grade film; fine, go out and call him on it. Say it’s crap and say you find it offensive.
But then things take a turn that I find incredibly offensive. At least as offensive as any “insult” to Mohammed. INNOCENT people are killed via mob violence directed at folks completely unrelated to the movie making. That there is ample evidence for it being an artificial act, one planned well in advance and orchestrated, only makes it worse.
Evidence for that? First off, the date. The attacks on the US Embassy sites were done on 9/11. That is no accident. Second, the level of force. The attackers showed up with heavy guns, trucks, and rocket launchers. They didn’t just get angry and decide to go have a rally, they planned a military operation.
Bottom line is that the embassy staff were killed by hyper-emotional idiots “acting out” and killing folks completely unrelated to the real stimulus of their “rage”. Led and directed by organized forces acting against the U.S. Government, cause be damned.
Then our idiots ( Madam Hillary and Sheik Obama) go on TV and apologize for it and talk dirt about the “movie”. This is just so stupid. First off, it tells the folks behind creating the (artificial?) rage and event that THEY have the power to jerk the chain of the Secretary Of State and POTUS any time they want. But worse, it validates the “knight fork” strategy. Pick some “insult” to islam (no, no capital, not when they are behaving like spoiled children having a tantrum) and then through a tantrum, mix in some violence, aim it at the USA and pay no attention to actual ‘guilt’ or cause. Now sit back and wait. Now the USA either needs to express sympathy for your POV and cause (such as condemning free speech), or be drenched in blame. Nice maneuvering. As long as the US Govt chooses to play along…
IMHO, the only correct answer here is simple: The SOS and POTUS ought to have gone on TV and given a speech about the nature of freedom, that we have freedom of speech in the USA (for now…) and point out that the US Govt has no relationship with private speech, can not ban or forbid it, and that is a good thing. Then suggest that any folks wishing to peacefully express a counter point of view to the movie is free to do so, here… THEN SHUT UP. (I’m tempted to say they ought to also state that any violence will be met with appropriate responses and criminal actors will be hunted and brought to justice; but that, in this context, just gives more for the instigators to work with; so ought to be in a different venue.)
Unless and until the US Govt Representatives recognize that they must stand up and explain / advocate for our way of life, for our rights, and for our freedoms; they will remain in the ‘knight fork’ trap, looking weak and easily manipulated on TV, apologizing for being American.
Some Video Clips
It took a while to find out just what was what. Oddly, it was the Israeli news on Mosaic on Link TV that actually gave out the name of the movie AND the fact that the producer of the movie is an American Jew (Link TV is a very left wing, Arab Friendly, ‘user supported’ TV channel that I regularly watch. Mosaic gives 5 minute or so chunks of news broadcasts from many Middle East country broadcasts, including Israel. The contrast can be very enlightening). At that point, I figured it would be easy enough to find the particular trailers on YouTube without as much time spent trying to find a ‘handle’ with which to search.
The name is “Innocence of Muslims”. There are now several “trailers” up on YouTube. A couple of them come withe the “warning” that the trailer has been flagged as “offensive” by some number of YouTube users (one can expect that the Islamists are busy with their phone trees telling folks to go flag for removal). So I have no idea how long any one of these links will continue to work. If they fail, I expect new ones will show up from other posters, but it is likely to be a game of “whack a mole” for a while.
I’ve only watched 2 of the trailers so far. They are pretty poor. Something of about High School or maybe first year film class in college level. What I’ve seen has some truth in it (in that some of the ‘set dressing’ and ‘side stories’ are historically accurate); but is heavily slanted for the worst possible point of view on that history. Presenting Mohammed as a mix of insanity with stupidity and violence. In other words, it’s pretty crappy stuff.
Sadly, by having a hissy fit about it, the muslim nutcakes (no caps here either, they are not worth it…) have given the producer more advertizing and more viewers than he could ever have hoped for in his wildest dreams. Rather like “Satanic Verses”, which I bought when they started a “ban it” activity. Became a ‘best seller’ over night. (Someday I may even read mine ;-) Read a few pages, but it was not engaging enough to keep me reading.
So, OK, the muslim nutcases want to remove MY freedom of speech (and more importantly, my freedom of reading, listening, and watching; and judging for myself). I answer with “Freedom of speech is exactly for speech you find offensive. If you only have freedom of speech for things with which you agree, there is no freedom of speech.” ( A rough paraphrase of Noam Chomsky.)
With that, here’s some links. No, I am NOT endorsing them. I am advocating for the RIGHT of freedom of speech even by those with whom I do not agree. We will see how long YouTube takes to ‘cave to pressure’…
One link claims to be “the whole movie”. As it is 6 minutes long, ether that is one heck of a small movie for causing so much fuss, or it isn’t the whole thing… I’ve not watched it yet; figured I’d get this posted first, then get into the race condition with censorship via watching the actual clips. So I’ve got no idea what is in the whole thing. Right after that are some copies of ‘trailers’. I have no idea how much is redundant, which will go “poof!”, or which are not representative.
This one claims to be the “original movie” and matches the trailers below:
This one claims to be the “full movie” but has very different content and production:
This video (that is basically a set of text slides set to music) says that the original trailer is the 11 minute one, and that the movie in full is 2 hours. ( I don’t know if I could sit through 2 hours of that poor a production value rant movie…) I think it is correct, as I’ve now watched the various clips. The 11 minute one looks like the original trailer, and has the usual “jump cuts” and lack of organization of a trailer. It hints at a more complete story, following the line of history over longer stretch. The smaller “trailers” look like folks picking out bits of it to make “me too” videos (either to frustrate the “whack a mole” censors or to clip some ad income from a hot topic).
That means there’s a lot more “legs” to this story as the whole 2 hour movie comes out. Generally I buy a copy of anything that folks try to “ban” or vilify just to make the point that MY freedom to choose is NOT up to them to change. (As did a whole lot of other folks for the Satanic Verses book, so I’m not alone…) Given the fairly crappy quality of the clips, I’m not sure I could hold my nose and buy the DVD “someday”… Partly because I’m also not interested in rewarding folks who are deliberately trying to exploit artificially created outrage for personal gain. At any rate, I think this clip is a decent example of a sane and balanced response from what looks like a “moderate Muslim”. So I have some hope.
IMHO, Islam (with a capital, as I’m talking about the whole group, not just the nutcakes in the street) has taken a very bad turn. It has started to deify Mohammed. They have turned The Prophet into an Icon. To be worshiped and NEVER treated as an ordinary man. Despite their nearly rabid attacking of all icons, they are in the process of turning Mohammed into one. Never mind that we KNOW Mohammed was ‘just a man’. Never mind that Islam and the Koran teach that he was just a man, who happened to be a prophet. (Much as it teaches that Christ was just a man who happened to be a prophet – one of the reasons they go ballistic over Catholics and the Trinity as it deifies Jesus. Well, that and the iconic pictures of Jesus and Mary. Yet they have started to have their own iconic images of Mohammed as more than just a man…)
So WHY be so upset about “insults” to Mohammed if he is KNOWN to be just a man who happens to be a prophet? Hmmm? Perhaps because they don’t like insults to THEIR Icon Of Islam? History pretty well confirms he was just a man, so will have had all the failings of all men. Saying that is in conformance with the Koran. Denial of it is what is un-islamic. The Prophet was not some demi-god of perfection. Treating him that way is an insult to the teachings of the Koran, IMHO. He had a life as an ordinary man prior to finding God and Religion (Christian religion, BTW… remember that he taught from a copy of The Bible and preached a kind of Christianity. Only after his death did it change into “only the Koran” and nothing Christian… That is historical fact as well. One exploited by Islamists when it suits them to cite the story of Mary and other Biblical connections, but conveniently ignored at other times.)
So, IMHO, what we have here is a Plethora Of Idiots. On ALL sides. The Jewish Idiot who made a bad film designed to insult and inflame. The Muslim Idiots who let themselves be inflamed by it. The Arab Street that has let instigators and The Muslim Brotherhood (and others) inflame them into attacking innocent folks, unrelated to the source of the insults. The Muslim World Idiots for not recognizing that the only effective way to deal with insulting speech is counter speech, not censorship nor violence. And our Government Idiots, for letting themselves be led around by the nose, choosing between “condemn our way of life, freedoms, and liberties; endorse our enemies” or “We accept the blame”. Not having the courage to stand for truth, that “we” are not involved and THEY are being “useful idiots” at best.