Quakes Pacific Rim

We’ve had an interesting set of quakes here. A 6 ish in the Philippines, another 6 ish in British Columbia, but a bit further south than the last one and near the subduction fault. Then there’s a 7.4 down offshore Guatemala.

The ‘pattern’ looks like activity moving consistently closer to the locked fault system in California nearer to me. Then again, it could easily be mild paranoia on my part. Living on top of a seismic bomb can make you ‘twitchy’ ;-)

I’m going to leave in the “static image” from the prior 7.7 in B.C. as it was just a bit north of the present quake, so related. Here’s the static image of right now:

British Columbia 6.3

Quake 6.3 BC 8 Nov 2012

Quake 6.3 BC 8 Nov 2012

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2012 November 08 02:01:51 UTC

Earthquake Details

    This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.

Magnitude	6.3

    Thursday, November 08, 2012 at 02:01:51 UTC
    Wednesday, November 07, 2012 at 06:01:51 PM at epicenter
    Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location	49.185°N, 128.528°W
Depth	16.6 km (10.3 miles)
Distances	186 km (115 miles) SSW of Port Hardy, Canada
255 km (158 miles) WSW of Campbell River, Canada
262 km (162 miles) W of Courtenay, Canada
271 km (168 miles) W of Port Alberni, Canada
Location Uncertainty	horizontal +/- 18 km (11.2 miles); depth +/- 8.2 km (5.1 miles)
Parameters	NST=329, Nph=332, Dmin=128 km, Rmss=0.6 sec, Gp=144°,
M-type=regional moment magnitude (Mw), Version=7

    Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
    Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)

Event ID	usc000dnxu

British Columbia has a 7.7 (a while ago…)

Static captures of image:

Quakes 7.7 British Columbia. 28 Oct 2012 230_55

Quakes 7.7 British Columbia. 28 Oct 2012 230_55


2012 October 28 03:04:10 UTC

Earthquake Details

    This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.

Magnitude	7.7

    Sunday, October 28, 2012 at 03:04:10 UTC
    Saturday, October 27, 2012 at 08:04:10 PM at epicenter
    Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location	52.769°N, 131.927°W
Depth	17.5 km (10.9 miles)
Distances	139 km (86 miles) S of Masset, Canada
202 km (125 miles) SSW of Prince Rupert, Canada
293 km (182 miles) SW of Terrace, Canada
556 km (345 miles) NW of Campbell River, Canada
Location Uncertainty	horizontal +/- 14 km (8.7 miles); depth +/- 4 km (2.5 miles)
Parameters	NST=716, Nph=716, Dmin=267.2 km, Rmss=0.95 sec, Gp= 58°,
M-type=regional moment magnitude (Mw), Version=A

    Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
    Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)

Event ID	usb000df7n

Note: The USGS is now putting up a red border box; warning folks to move to their new interactive pages (as these are deprecated). Eventually they will just pull the plug and these postings will all fail to load images that are live.

The interactive stuff is interesting, but you can’t embed images from it the way you can with the old stuff, so I don’t really have a choice (yet). Maybe I’ll figure out how to imbed live versions of the ‘new stuff’ eventually… but don’t be surprised if ‘someday’ the Quake postings just fail.

The saved static images will still exist, but all the live images below will fail.

Live Close up:

Quakes British Columbia live map

Quakes British Columbia live map

Original Image

Guatemala gets a 7.4 quake

Static Capture of image:

Quake 7.4  Guatemala 8 Nov 2012

Quake 7.4 Guatemala 8 Nov 2012


2012 November 07 16:35:50 UTC

Earthquake Details

    This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.

Magnitude	7.4

    Wednesday, November 07, 2012 at 16:35:50 UTC
    Wednesday, November 07, 2012 at 10:35:50 AM at epicenter
    Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location	14.083°N, 91.916°W
Depth	41.6 km (25.9 miles)
Distances	24 km (14 miles) S of Champerico, Guatemala
56 km (34 miles) SSW of Retalhuleu, Guatemala
61 km (37 miles) SSW of San Sebastian, Guatemala
61 km (37 miles) SSE of Suchiate, Mexico
Location Uncertainty	horizontal +/- 15 km (9.3 miles); depth +/- 9 km (5.6 miles)
Parameters	NST=635, Nph=635, Dmin=244.9 km, Rmss=1.17 sec, Gp= 58°,
M-type=(unknown type), Version=7

    Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
    Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)

Event ID	usb000dlwm

Live View:

Guatemala Quake 7.4

Guatemala Quake 7.4

Global Views

30 Days:

30 Day Global View

30 Day Global View


Quakes Last 7 Days Live

Quakes Last 7 Days Live

Northern Hemisphere

North Polar Earthquake Map

North Polar Earthquake Map

Original Image with Clickable Details

North America

Quakes North America Live Map

Quakes North America Live Map

Original Image

Southern Hemisphere

A view of Earthquakes from the South Pole

A view of Earthquakes from the South Pole

Original Image with Clickable Details

Asia and Russia

Asia Quake Map

Asia Quake Map

Original Image with clickable areas

Australia / New Zealand

This is a live map of the Australia / Indonesia / New Zealand area:

Australia / Indonesia / New Zealand Quake Map

Australia / Indonesia / New Zealand Quake Map

Original with clickable regions to zoom in

California Map

Action Closer to Me

As I live in California, it makes it easier for me if I keep them in the list where I can see what’s shaking near me.

Here is an alternative view of things with the fault lines highlighted:

California Quakes with fault lines

California Quakes with fault lines

Original Image

Map of Plates

You can see it is where plates collide here:

Plates Of The World

Plates Of The World

Original Image, and with other language options.

Some Volcano Stuff

This page:

http://pangea.stanford.edu/~dsinnett/Pages/Links.html has a nice collection of links to volcano monitor pages. Just click the pictures for the different volcano observatories.

The Smithsonian page:


USGS Page listing recent major quakes:


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A technical managerial sort interested in things from Stonehenge to computer science. My present "hot buttons' are the mythology of Climate Change and ancient metrology; but things change...
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20 Responses to Quakes Pacific Rim

  1. adolfogiurfa says:

    @E.M.: That would fix the economy from one day to the other: After a big quake people usually wake up as to re establish a more objective priorities´ order in their lives. Kalipornia´s hedonistic life will end one day or the other.

  2. omanuel says:

    I agree, adolfogiurfa.

    The only solution for society today is rigorous honesty, and nothing less:


    All of us, absolutely everyone on planet Earth, must accept total powerlessness over RTG (Reality, Truth, God) that world leaders tried to hide after RTG destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki on 6 & 9 Aug 1945 [“Neutron repulsion,” The Apeiron Journal 19, 123-150 (2012)]: http://tinyurl.com/7t5ojrn

    The solution is consistent with all sciences and religions. One correctly compares the solution with the problem of getting a camel through the eye of a needle !

    – Oliver

  3. Tim Clark says:

    You have a highly legitimate reason to be concerned. I am going on the record as predicting a very large quake, occurring near San Francisco, on November 15, at precisely 2:39pm local time (unless my flight is late). ;<)

  4. R. de Haan says:

    Although the prospect of a magnitude >9 to hit California or more preferable Washington short term sounds tempting, I refuse to go political on the subject of earth quakes.
    In order to stay on the subject I post an article titled “Imminent magnitude 9 earth quake” I picked up from the Modern Survival Blog

  5. omanuel says:

    Thanks for the link, R. De Haan.


    When I tried to post, my comment disappeared.

    When I tried again, the response: Duplicate comment, you already said that.

    I’ve encounter the same problem on other sites recently. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?

  6. p.g.sharrow says:

    Oliver, I have encountered that problem a number of times over the last few years. I believe it is just that the server is too busy to post an immediate reply to your post and you got impatient and re-posted. Use to be that you wound up with two postings. pg

  7. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Omanuel: It has happened to me too, several times …perhaps it´s because @E.M. computer it´s so encrypted that it disappears from the WWW :-)

  8. omanuel says:

    @ p.g.sharrow, adolfogiurfa

    Interesting. Sometimes the server assigned a comment number, but the comment didn’t appear.

    Other times the server did nor respond with a comment number, and the comment didn’t appear.

    – Oliver

  9. omanuel says:

    PS – The problem never occurred on E.M.Smith’s site.

  10. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Omanuel: Sometimes, I guess, E.M. made the disappeared comments appear afterwards. It seems sometimes it goes to a kind of spams´filter.

  11. Larry Geiger says:

    Not sure where else to post this?
    I’m thinking about cashing in some 401K and paying off the house. If the 401K is going south anyway, might as well get some value out of it?

  12. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Larry Geiger: Let´s wait for E.M.´s explanation of the graphs you just linked, but it seems that every good player should know the ups and low and get revenues from both.

  13. E.M.Smith says:


    Per “things going poof” and sometimes only for a while….

    WordPress sometimes runs slow. At those times, it seems to put a priority queue in place. Pages are “served” first, then comments posted, and last is service to the admin side of things (where I’ve learned not to try writing articles during peak demand time… )

    At those times, an article may go to the ‘accepted to post’ queue, but not finish posting for a minute or two.

    Typically, you get the phrase “awaiting moderation” if you went to the moderation queue. I have many folks on ‘just post it’, so those comments don’t wait for me to ‘moderate’. For some postings, and some people, things go to the “SPAM Queue”. I’ve even had my comment go to SPAM even when logged in as Administrator! ( I was using TOR Browser then, so likely had a ‘known SPAMMER IP number’…) WHY WordPress flags any one thing, person, or IP as SPAM is a profound mystery. You know it “went to SPAM” if you hit post and it just evaporates. No “awaiting moderation” and no showing up (perhaps in 30 seconds…)

    I don’t know if posting twice to SPAM gets the “duplicate posting” notice or not, but think it likely does.

    Every so often, for reasons I do not ken, a poster who is on “just post it” ends up going to SPAM or to the Moderation Queue. I suspect it may be a change of email address, name, or perhaps a reboot of their internet router getting a new IP number from their ISP via DHCP. (Or perhaps WordPress just has a hissy…)


    Some small advice:

    You have a ‘hobby horse’ you like to ride. Repeatedly posting the same idea, often to many threads. I’m fairly tolerant of that here, though have suggested the advantages of being a bit more broad and varied in your comment style. (Largely because, having looked into it, I think your thesis has much merit. For me, the “Wow!” moment was finding that the age of the “supernova creation of isotopes” used to create the solar system is the same as the age of the solar system… so zero ‘travel time’ to get here from said nova, hence must have been here… A point I think you might want to point out more…)

    I know that on some other sites you are thought of as a ‘thread bomber’ or “spam” due to the persistent posting of the Hobby Horse even when it’s been seen many times before. In those cases, the site admin can set your ID to go to SPAM all the time, or simply if enough admins at enough places flag enough comments to “SPAM”, it looks to me like WordPress ‘figures that out’ and generalizes to flag who / what is SPAM.

    Due to that, you would benefit from a more varied and participative comment style. Don’t know what ‘ratio’ gets past things, but suspect that a 10:1 is likely ‘enough’ with one “hobby horse” for every 9 ‘on topic’ while 5:1 is likely ‘pushing it’.

    I also suspect that moderators “fishing things out of the SPAM queue” cast a vote for “not SPAM”, but have not idea how many or how long before WordPress acts on it. (Or if it’s a race condition between different moderators or varies by site or…)

    In short, it’s a good idea to avoid being marked SPAM anywhere, as it works in strange and wondrous ways…


    I periodically “empty the SPAM queue” and service the “Moderation queue”. It can be days between activity, though. I have no idea if Word Press tosses SPAM if not serviced ‘soon enough’ but have seen some evidence that it does. ( I’ve never seen any really really old SPAM even when not dealing with it for a few weeks…)

    A ‘large number of links’ can mark something as SPAM. The default setting on W.P. is something stupid like 3 or 4. I ‘upped’ that a lot. ( to 7 or 8 ). Yet there is one class of SPAM that is a LOT of links. So I need to deal with more SPAM if I set it higher. On other sites, even a simple “Topic Link, supportive link 1, supportive link 2” can end up in SPAM. As this is administrator set, it will vary by site.

    There’s also some set of ‘key words’ (only some of which the Admin can influence, and then only by adding some) and some set of lord only knows what (but I suspect includes email address, login name, and IP Address, with unknown weightings). PIA? Yup. But less so than dealing with all the SPAM unfiltered….

    OK, now on to looking at the chart and other comments ;-)

  14. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry Geiger:

    The problem with such “wiggle matching” is that you can get a similar set of ‘wiggle matches’ to times that we did not have such a spectacular plunge. Also missing is the excessive leverage of housing and banks that would lead to a ‘systemic failure’.

    Basically, that kind of plunge comes as a major bubble bursts. We don’t have a major bubble to burst right now.

    That does NOT mean stocks are not going down. I called a downtrend on them a bit back and we also had comments that on an Obama Win, stocks would drop. So I’m mostly cash (other than BRKA and a couple of other longer term holdings – that will likely be sold too soon.)

    I’m going to do another financial posting this weekend, so more comments then.

    As we’re likely headed into significant inflation ( I can see no other way…) I’d be looking to carry more mortgage (especially since you can get it at near zero now) rather than less. As inflation hits and bond rates spike up on lack of buyers, your mortgage will evaporate… Put your cash in TIPS or WIPS and it is inflation protected…

    THE trick is to do charts of ‘wiggles’ and keep swapping to the ones trending up and out of those trending down (with some ‘directed intuition’ from knowing macro economic trends…). That’s what my financial postings are all about. What to be swapped into, and out of. For a fairly long time now (over a year?) I’ve said TIPS are a good place to “hide out”… had you watched those charts you would not be ‘going south’…

    My major effort is to teach folks how to read those charts for themselves. It is THE most important tool for wealth preservation, IMHO. Never lets you overstay a rising trend into a dropping one. Never leaves you in (when things flatten and start to roll down at a top) during the plunge. Always gets you back in a little after a bottom. By definition of how the prices move and how moving averages work. Major ‘issue’ is just when things go sideways you can be ‘whipsawed’ in and out; so I usually follow the “When in doubt, be out” rule. Buy an identified trend, otherwise step out.

    That is exactly backwards from common advice, and opposite of what I did for years; but as markets are now driven to panic ‘flash crash’ behaviour by machine driven trading, IMHO it is a necessary action. Once the “rise of the machines” is curbed, I’ll go back to ‘value investing’ and ‘buy and hold’ more.

    So, in short, right now I’d not be in stocks much (and in fact have been out of them for a couple of months in large part) as discussed in the last finance posting (even if brief):


    For now, TIPS and precious metals are likely the place to park while thinking…

  15. E.M.Smith says:

    Back ‘on topic’:

    What worries me most about the Cascadia quakes is the LACK of aftershocks on that 6.3 ish one. Looks like one little “tinkle” after it.

    That’s what I think pre-shocks look like. WHACK! tinkle… silence….

    Large quakes ought to have aftershocks if the rock broke clean and is now slipping, IMHO.

    Then again, it’s a very dynamic process with lots of exceptions.

    But lets just say I’m not going camping near the beach for a month or three ;-)

    Down were I am, the most likely to move is the Hayward / Calaveras / Rogers system ( East Bay) as the San Andreas has had motion last, and as that is where the most ‘creaking’ is going on. It also has a history of ‘going’ a decade or three from the San Andreas, which had a 7.1 ish a decade+ back… So not going to a lot of football games at Cal (Berkeley) either ;-)

    (The fault runs right through the middle of the stadium and the two halves are offset enough to be clearly visible … just from the creep. Creepy creep? )

    As I “chose wisely”, I’m not on top of either fault and in a place where at most I’ll get modest ground motion and not even a broken window. Oh, and on hard pack soils too, not ‘jello fill’ ;-)

    So I’m not very worried. Just not going to hang out a lot in high risk places (especially at night under a full or new moon while sleeping…)

    The Cascadia WILL have an 8.x to 9.x at some point. An sooner more than later. BUT, ‘sooner’ can still be a few decades away. This is geology and ‘geological time’ after all…. But I’ll be surprised if it takes longer than 2040 to ‘cut loose’ (and L.A. too for that matter). Then again, I’ll be surprised if I’m still alive in 2040 anyway. ( Pushing 88? I don’t think so…) So I’d happily take an inherited Coastal Ocean View home in Cascadia, move there and live in it. I just wouldn’t buy one ;-) And were I a ‘twenty something’, I’d be moving about 50 miles inland… (buy cheap after the quake on the coast ;-)

    FWIW, as I remember the probability charts at the USGS, the L.A. basis is are more risk than the S.F. Bay Area. Last great quake was 1800’s in the center of L.A. IIRC. It’s “way due”…

    This (BIG!) map shows general shake risk:

    with a nice magenta stripe through L.A.

    While this one gives the “odds”. Note the very light pink “over 80% of a g” odds down in the L.A. basin. (I’m between to legs of a V of that color, on an island of much lower that doesn’t show on this scale of map).

    So stay off those lines of maximal damage and it’s a great place to buy a home ;-)

  16. adolfogiurfa says:

    @E.M.: About mortgages in times of inflation: What you say it will be possible unless there is some fine print down there saying that it will automatically adjust to inflation.
    What you say it happen to me when we had in Peru a really big inflation: The bus ticket to go to the bank it was much more than what I had to pay…

  17. E.M.Smith says:


    There are two kinds of mortgage in the USA. Fixed rate and Adjustable (that come in some sub types). As long as you have a ‘fixed rate’, inflation is your friend…

  18. E.M.Smith says:

    Looks like a 6 ish down in Chile and some 4s and 5s on Cascadia, again…

    Still releasing energy outside California, leaving us stuck in the sights…

  19. p.g.sharrow says:

    Set of quakes at the Sutter Buttes last night:
    Shallow fault slip? From Sacramento River to top of Buttes. pg

  20. E.M.Smith says:


    Verrry Interrresting ;-)

    For a very long time I’d wondered if the Sutter Buttes might every wake up again. It would “make my day” if we sprouted a tiny little volcano there again. Just pull the blocks apart a tiny little bit, put some red stuff on top of the pile of the old volcano core, and then quiet down again ;-)

    Oh, notice the other quake cluster? Near The Geysers hot springs area?

    The reality is much more likely to be a shift of some rocks along an old sill line… some kind of erosion as water ran to the river underground, and the block overlaying managed to get loose enough to shift downward?…

    The Buttes are, IIRC, about 6 million years old and the last 1/3 of the stump of an old volcano. So they formed about the time humans were starting to diverge from other chimps. An ‘anomaly’ as they sprouted in the middle of an otherwise very non-volcanic area (but only a small ways south of Mount Lassen / Mt Shasta and on the way to Mono / volcanic field).

    I’ve always wanted them to perk up, just a tiny bit. To let folks know they can come back if they wanted… ;-)

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