I’ve become somewhat jaded about LENR / Cold Fusion. The initial P&F flush of excitement, then followed by the slow crushing disappointment. Now decades later. Still nothing. So I’ve gone to Missouri. “Show me.”
Then Rossi had the constantly slipping testing Real Soon Now…
Now we’re close. Very close. The “Show me.” is starting to show. That is, there are claims that independent tests and validations are complete. Just waiting for the write ups / certifications / publications.
So where does that leave us?
In a somewhat anticipatory “show me soon!” state.
First up, those folks in Greece. I would find it incredibly ironic if the country that is the poster child for lazy dependence on welfare and retirement pay, producing little, were to hand the world its first LENR reactor and copious low cost energy. Note that this is from October 2012, so a good 5 months ago.
Claims to be a semi-clandestine (i.e signatures not redacted) copy of a test report from the Defkalion reactor testing.
It won’t let me copy / paste text, and it is late enough that I’m not interested in breaking the copy protect right now, so just download the whole thing and skip down to page 18.
Says it is working.
It all looks more or less like what I’d expect. Yet I find myself thinking “show me someone driving a car from one side of the country to the other non-stop no fuel, maybe then…” Once burned, hard to believe again…
Original Article, short though it is. It has a couple of videos in it.
This story claims to find that at least one of the ‘catalysts’ is potassium. (In some long gone posting I’d speculated on Potassium as important, largely based on a nuclear shell filling argument, IIRC)
Much of the stuff we’ve seen before, but the claim that Potassium is a catalyst is new to me. Reading between the lines, they seem to say that it changes the Ni powder in some way to enhance the reaction. I find it curious that they would include such a detail but at the same time also note that they claim at least one other secret ingredient to maintain the mystery.
I was tipped to this in an email, and found a copy on line, so not breaching any email privacy to post it.
Rossi is claiming that the independent test of the E-Cat is done and was positive. Results to be published Real Soon Now.
Down in comments:
Nixter on March 25, 2013 at 5:09 am
Looks like Rossi just announced the release of the test;
Rossi’s all caps, not mine.
THE TESTS OF THE THIRD INDIPENDENT PARTY HAVE BEEN COMPLETED YESTERDAY.
I DID NOT ATTEND, THEREFORE I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY THE RESULTS, THAT WILL SURELY BE PUBLISHED BY THE EXAMINATORS, PROBABLY AROUND THE HALF OF APRIL. I MET THE 11 PROFESSORS AND EXPERTS THAT MADE THE TESTS WHEN THEY ENDED THEIR WORK AND THEY WERE VERY POSITIVE. ONE OF THEM TOLD ME ” WE GOT EVIDENCE THAT THE ‘ EFFECT’ IS REAL BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT”.
A longer version:
March 24th, 2013 at 10:53 PM
YOUR COMMENT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OPENS THE GATE FOR THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:
THE TESTS OF THE THIRD INDIPENDENT PARTY HAVE BEEN COMPLETED YESTERDAY.
I DID NOT ATTEND, THEREFORE I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY THE RESULTS, THAT WILL SURELY BE PUBLISHED BY THE EXAMINATORS, PROBABLY AROUND THE HALF OF APRIL. I MET THE 11 PROFESSORS AND EXPERTS THAT MADE THE TESTS AND THEY WERE VERY POSITIVE. ONE OF THEM TOLD ME ” WE GOT EVIDENCE THAT THE ‘ EFFECT’ IS REAL BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT”. I COULD NOT GET MORE INFORMATION, BECAUSE THEY NOW HAVE TO ELABORATE THE DATA TO PREPARE THE PUBLICATION. ALL THE PROFESSORS SAID THE TEST IS GONE WELL, VERY WELL. THE LAST TEST ENDED AFTER 120 HOURS OF UNINTERRUPTED OPERATION OF THE REACTORS ( THE NEW GENERATION OF HOT CATS IS MADE BY A TWO STAGE SYSTEM, MADE WITH AN ACTIVATOR WITH RESISTANCES COUPLED WITH A KIND OF CHARGE, WHICH ACTIVATES THE E-CAT WITH A DIFFERENT CHARGE). THE EFFECT IS STUNNING, WE SAW IN OUR PRIVATE TESTS, AND HAS BEEN REPLICATED BY THE THIRD INDIPENDENT PARTY.
NOW WE PASS TO THE INDUSTRIAL ENGAGEMENTS: WE HAVE TO DELIVER OUR PLANTS BY THE END OF APRIL.
So supposedly it, too, is working and we’re just waiting for some folks to write and do a press release. OK…
Tick tick tick tic …
Overall, it is looking like Ni with K added, warmed to hot, H2 added and perhaps made into mono-H via heat / spark? The spark as trigger seem important (making?… EMF pulse? X-rays? Radio waves? Phonons in the crystal lattice as it vibrates?)
Still, part of the mind says “Show ME!”. I want “Film at 11″ with a steam car driving around using only one of these things. No panels over anywhere big enough to put a fuel tank. Rolling along so no wires attached. Lots of folks with RDF gear looking for energy transmission via microwave or IR beam. I want the Calorimetry Police giving it a proctology exam and an end to end disassemble reassemble. Maybe then I’ll believe it.
For now, it’s just one more promise of a real proof Real Soon Now.
In Silly Con valley, the phrase “Real Soon Now” is used sarcastically to mean “I have no idea what the schedule will be”. So your boss comes in and says “I need that report by tomorrow noon, can you make sure that happens?” and your response of “I’ll have it Real Soon Now.” informs that you are doing your best, long hours and all, but have no clue when it will really be done.
Could be minutes. Could be next decade.
I have a strong Real Soon Now reaction to the perpetual reports of testing soon, and results soon, and write up Real Soon Now.
But, sometimes things happen. So maybe it will be soon.
We’ll see. Soon. One way or the other.
Nasa out of the closet and bringing up the rear
NASA is starting to smell money and claims to have something going on.
Media Finally “Discovers” NASA LENR Experiments
Published February 22, 2013 | By jennifer
The mainstream media or at least tech media has finally picked up on the low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) or cold fusion work being done at NASA and some of its implications. At least three stories about Joseph Zawodndy’s work at the Langley Research Center in Virginia are floating around online.
This media attention indicates that NASA is serious about LENR and might soon be able to produce some sort of credible evidence to back up these claims. Zawodny would not be talking openly to the media if he couldn’t. The Gizmag piece quotes Zawodny’s boss Dennis Bushnell as saying that 1% of the world’s nickel production could meet the world’s energy needs at a quarter of the cost of coal if LENR is perfected. Bushnell wouldn’t be saying that unless he had something he could use against critics.
So this means that we might expect some sort of LENR surprise from NASA in the near future. Perhaps a public announcement or a big press conference, it might also be at Congress. NASA is among the agencies facing budget cuts because of the fiscal crisis in the United States and it needs to justify all the money it spends on research. A new energy source would be the perfect way to do that.
Perfected? That implies they have something at the “toy / demonstration” level. If a Manager is talking about something, they are smelling money in it. It may never work, but they can see enough to get funding.
So we are still in a ‘waiting game’, but at this point all the delay “tactics” that could be played have been played. The reviews are supposedly done. Just waiting for the ink to dry. That’s not a 3 month process… So “time is short” to our answer…