Of Spots, Bugs, and Toxins

Some many years ago, some “stuff” started to decide I was a nice place to colonize. Over the years, I’ve accumulated many “spots”. Most recently, “something” decided to make small lesions that were prone to sometimes bleeding. I had 2 in the scalp and a couple on my back and shoulder. All were located just where the fingers landed when the arm was wrapped around to scratch there…

Clearly, over the years, “crap” under the fingernails had been scratched into the skin, and found a place to live.

Some, like the ones in the scalp, had M.D.s look at them. Some, like some 30+ year old spots on the leg (4, right in the pattern where the finger tips would land…) were more likely fungal (but who knows…) At one time I’d had some reason to think some of these spots were protozoan.

In a prior posting I’d mentioned that one of my bunnies had likely “saved my life”. I’d thought the scalp spots were protozoan. One of my bunnies had been diagnosed with E. Cuniculi and then I had some rashy spots and some lesions show up. I treated them with some antimicrobials, and thought it was gone, but… something still wasn’t right. I “peed on a plant” and waited. E. Cuniculi makes spores. Animals that consume the spores get infected. The bunny picked up the spores. Inside a couple of days, he had symptoms. Took him to the vet, he was diagnosed, and I did a load of treatment in a hurry (on him, and on me) and wrote up the treatment that worked to recover him as a posting here.

Why use the bunny as a lab test? Because when I went to my doctor and asked for an E. Cuniculi test, I was told “My lab can’t provide it. If I can’t test for it, you don’t have it.” Yes, that what was said.

Well, long story short, I treated me for E. Cuniculi just as I treated the bunny. He recovered, and the rash on my arm (where I’d been scratched by a bunny with E. Cuniculi… diagnosed and treated by the vet some years before…) resolved. That is how I’m fairly sure the bunny saved my life. At a minimum, it saved my quality of life. I did need to dig up some vet meds (including Ivermectin “drench” and some others) and self medicate; but hey, you do what you must. So time passed, and both the bunny and I were doing fine.

At this point I’m fairly certain that I completely eliminated the E. Cuniculi from both me, and from the bunnies.

Yet the scalp spots / lesions remained…

Over the years I’d worried that maybe I’d not fully eradicated the E. Cuniculi. As it is a spore former, it’s sometimes a bit hard to be sure. So I had gone to the doctor several times and gotten the “it is likely bacterial” diagnosis. Yet it didn’t resolve with several anti-bacterials.

OK, that was a few years ago. I’d tried a very very long list of things. Even silver skin creams (that reduced but didn’t eliminate the lesions).

We’re talking about a decade+ of things being tried ( likely closer to 2 decades…)

So I was completely unprepared for something so simple to work so well.

The “regime” is to use “Q Tips” or similar cotton tipped swaps to dab methanol onto the spots. The local concentration goes “way high”, and shit dies. As it soaks into the skin, a toxin starts to circulate in the blood, but the level is way low on a ‘whole body’ dose so it tends to do no harm. Realize that wiping this over a large skin area for a long period of time, you can absorb enough to be damaging. So only small spots, treated at any one time, to avoid a high body dose. I did “one treatment a day” for about a a week.

If you do get too large a dose, aspirin helps prevent liver damage (from alcohol or tylenol) and consuming plain booze blocks methanol damage. (The treatment for methanol overdose is to be very drunk on ethanol to block up the metabolic pathway that turns methanol to toxins that blow out your liver). But it is far better to stay way from that dose level in the first place.

At this point I’ve cleared up several “bleeding prone spots” on my back and shoulders, and the scalp spots are likely devoid of infective agent and healing (but I can’t see them to be sure as it’s the back of the head). The spots on the leg (of 20+ year duration) no longer have a ‘strange surface’, and instead look like very thin skin areas. As though the infected parts died and fell off, leaving a very thin and recovering skin area under them. Overall, my skin is better than it has been in decades.

All from a dab of methanol once a day for “a while”. ( a couple of weeks now for some spots, closer to a couple of days for others. Many spots on an irregular schedule…)

It is still possible that some “spots” might not be completely fixed. For several, it’s as though the infective agent is dead, but the damage not yet healed. That could easily also be that the infective agent has formed spores and will return in a month when things are better. As this has been such a long “slog”, I’ll likely continue to treat those areas on a ‘once a few days’ basis for some long time to come. We’ll see. Experimental treatment protocols are largely guesswork anyway.

For me, just the fact that so many different “spots” of very different form are all healing leads me to think that this is a treatment with some general purpose utility. It’s also a great satisfaction to have smooth skin again in places that had been prone to bumps, itches, rashes, lesions, and sporadic small scabs / bleeding (a half dozen to dozen pin head sized spots. Biggest about the size of the letter “l” here…) that would not heal for years on end, or would slowly migrate over a few inches of skin.

Frankly, this whole process has caused me to have a great distrust of “modern medicine”. I’ve gone to a half dozen doctors over the years. Largely been “blown off”. Either due to it not being interesting enough. (I.e. the spots on the back looking like a tiny pimple scab (here’s your salve…) or the scalp spots being called “self scoriation” (here’s your salve…) or the G.P. saying it’s not possible to get E. Cuniculi if you are not imuno-compromised ( “I can’t test for it so you can’t have it”…) At the end of it all, I’d largely just decided to “live with it”. But being the incredibly persistent sort, kept ‘fiddling’ with it. From silver salves ( that did work to slow it but not cure… yes, I’d thought maybe argyria might be worth it if the lower skin layer levels of silver got high enough to cure “it”) to peeing on a plant and then letting the bunny eat it the next day.

In the end, I have done a protozoal “clearing” treatment that got some of the rashy bits gone (and in the long run may have saved me from far worse) and I’ve found a way to kill off a variety of “things” making a home as spots on the skin.

At this point, only a couple of minor 1 mm warts are left to deal with, and the regrowth of normal skin cells into places where “spots” were living for a few decades and have thinned the normal skin under them. I no longer have the ‘little bleeding spots’ marking sheets from time to time. I no longer have the “strange brown rough spots” in a finger tip pattern on one leg. The scalp spots seem to be “cured” in that they don’t bleed or leak or itch anymore, but still feel a bit like a divot. I think this is just a depression where infected cells died, and that needs to slowly heal / fill in, with normal cells. And the red arm rash is entirely gone (as of the anti-protozoan treatment when the bunny was cured).

All in all, for the first time in about 30 to 40 years, it looks like I’ve cured the various skin spots.

Why skin spots?

Why did I accumulate such a collection of things in the first place? Well, first off, after 60 years “stuff accumulates”. Secondly, many of those years were spent in rather un-hygenic places. Stagnant swimming holes under train trestles draining cow pastures. Mud wallows along various waterways and near fields of cattle. Several oceans and some large variety of farm dirt in several states. Lots of exposure to various animals (from a lot of farm animals to helping a friend at a zoo) and more. A rabbit bought at a county fair that came home and promptly displayed E. Cuniculi symptoms (before I knew what it was…) and a run to the vet. But after it peed on me and scratched it in with toe nails. Direct wet / blood exposure to known source of E. Cuniculi. (The spores form in urine). A friend who went to tropical South America and came back with a red rash looking like a protozoal skin disease (and a handshake or two to “share” it…)

In short, I’ve been exposed to a lot of “shit” and some real shit over the years.

In conclusion

So the bottom line is that while I used a ‘cocktail’ of anti-prozoan medicines to cure the E. Cuniculi in the bunny (and in me), and some anti-fungals to knock down some athlete’s foot and related fungal spots: It is the “discovery” that methanol as spot treatment kills off the surviving spots that is “novel”.

There are a lot of things that want to eat you. Some don’t want to wait for you do die first. Some spread into the volume of your being, where the immune system can kill many of them, but where specialized drugs may be needed for things like protozoans. Others can’t get past the immune system, so can only hang on as a patch of distorted ‘dead’ skin. For some of them, methanol can kill the bugs while not doing damage to you.

All in all, I’d much rather have had “modern medicine” give a damn enough to deal with some “minor cosmetic spots” and maybe actually listen to the patient and believe that maybe, just maybe “self scoriation” was not the reason there was a scalp lesion that persisted for nearly a decade. Oh Well… When they can’t or won’t do the job, it is up to you to do for yourself.

For me, after a couple of decades of “trying stuff”, to find that methanol was very effective was quite a surprise. Then again, that’s the nature of science. You try a thousand failed paths to find the one with promise.

Still, I can’t quite shake the notion that if Gentian Violet or Mercurochrome were still available at the local pharmacy, this might all have been resolved with a dab of those colorful medicines; and no need for inventing some alternatives. Just as such spots were eliminated 50 years ago with those agents, when I was a kid. Oh Well.

So it looks to me like there is a place for a toxic “smear” as a skin spot cure. Methanol seems to fit that bill (even as the old cures are eliminated from sale). If methanol is someday similarly banned, well, “chemistry is your friend” and I’m sure other toxins can be found.

For me, I’m just “way happy” that the spots are leaving. Some of these have been with me for many many years to decades. Being “unrelenting” in trying “stuff” has it’s advantages I guess. Some “spot treatments” have seemed to work for a while, then the spots adjusts and returns. So far there is no evidence of that. We’ll see. But for now it’s “all good”.

Post Script

Please forgive the slow rate of new postings / comments. I’ve got a new job, found a new place to live, and for the last two weeks the spouse has come out. So there has been a large amount of time consumed over “dinners with the spouse” and various “let’s look at houses” along with “let’s go to the parks” and generally being tour guide.

The good news is that I have a “place” at least until November. The spouse goes home in about 2 days. Hopefully I’ll have more time then to actually catch up here and post the things about which I’ve taken many notes. I’m mostly “up to speed” at the new job and all in all I’m finally getting “settled”.

Not only that, but now I’m getting nice smooth skin too! ;-)

I expect things to get back to normal in “a while”, so hang in there. And if you have any “mystery spots” on your skin that the good M.D. can’t, or won’t, cure; well, consider having a DIY treatment regimen and working out what treatment has promise. It might be a tincture of Iodine, some bleach, or maybe even just a salt bath. Or it might be more. Methanol dabs, Ivermectin, who knows.

The bottom line is that there is always hope. Even for me. Even after giving up hope of a ‘spot cure’ some decade or two back. Just keep plugging along, even if thinking it unlikely to lead anywhere. Sometimes it works out after all.

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45 Responses to Of Spots, Bugs, and Toxins

  1. Ralph B says:

    Hope your spouse enjoyed herself. If she wasn’t bothered with the heat and humidity this time of year she would just love the winter months.

    Ever try zinc? A friend of my wife had fought acne problems for years. I gave her a small anode zinc and said rub this on your face 3 or more times a day. She was determined and three weeks later her acne started to disappear. That was a couple years ago and she is acne free today still rubbing the zinc on her face.

  2. sabretoothed says:

    @Ralph, if you take 50mg of zinc for a while, some people get reactions because of the Candida dye off in the body (and also the moving of copper out of the body). Zinc is pretty powerful http://drlwilson.com/Articles/ZINC.htm

  3. Tony Hansen says:

    Welcome back to your place, you were missed (and have nothing to apologise for).
    Is methanol similar to methylated spirits?
    Why were mercurochrome and Gentian Violet taken off the market?
    ‘Tis good to have you back.

  4. omanuel says:

    It was good to hear from you and to read your comments on the problem of aging skin. Although skin problems are a natural by-product of aging, I’m old and have such problems, I never heard a dermatologist mention that.

    Would not the external application of ethanol be as effective as methanol, and safer on internal organs like the liver?

    Modern medicine may be handicapped by politically-correct, consensus thinking.

    Yesterday we met an old family friend in Little Rock who had developed Stevens-Johnson syndrome, a skin disorder that the Mayo clinic described as “a rare, serious disorder in which your skin and mucous membranes react severely to a medication or infection”.


  5. adolfogiurfa says:

    Give us that COCKTAIL!

  6. adolfogiurfa says:

    And we appreciate your coming back with something totally new, as always!

  7. Steve C says:

    Nice to see you back, EM – thought it must be something like all that real life keeping you away.
    Thought on today’s post – I wonder whether that methanol is mostly working by just absorbing all the water where it’s applied? I know ethanol is ferociously hygroscopic, and practically impossible to keep purer than 95% or so as it absorbs water vapour from the air.

    Any further news on how long this job may last? Whatever, you should find plenty of interesting reading on your own blog ;-)

    @Tony Hansen – Methanol is what they add to ethanol (drinking alcohol) to stop people drinking meths, also giving meths its name. It’s also known as “wood alcohol” and is the stuff that can make you go blind, as its small molecules are even more easily absorbed by your body tissues than the ethanol. There are a whole series of aliphatic alcohols – methanol, ethanol, propanol, butanol … – each adding one CH2 group to the next simpler one and making progressively “heavier” (denser, more viscous, etc) substances.

    Interesting side note: When the gov started “methylating” cleaning alcohol to stop us getting drunk without paying tax, they just added methanol. Both methanol and ethanol are clear liquids, so, as it didn’t look any different, people (the more desperate ones, at anyrate) continued drinking it and developing methanol-related problems. Then some genius had the idea of adding the pinky dye as well. Although the dye is harmless in itself, it did the job – who wants to drink something that colour? Psychology is a wonderful thing!

  8. punmaster says:

    @ Tony Hansen:
    Why were mercurochrome and Gentian Violet taken off the market?
    Mercurochrome contains mercury. Probably not enough to harm you unless you drank several bottles. I grew up putting it all kinds of cuts and scraps and can’t tell I suffered for. I think my IQ is still over 40.

    Wikipedia says:
    It is still an important antiseptic, particularly in developing nations, due to its “unbelievably low cost”.
    Of course. God forbid the pharmaceutical companies produce, and modern medicine use, something cheap that works.

  9. Gail Combs says:

    We used Gentian Violet to cure a donkey who had ‘White Line Disease’ most of her hoof fell off (We had just acquired her.) The disease is from an anaerobic bacteria.

    Treated a friend’s goat for Hoof Rot with LA 200 (oxytetracycline 200 mg/ml) topically applied.

    I have found ground up aspirin to be excellent for fungi. Thrush in horses, athletes feet and planters warts. Had a wart under a thumb nail for a few years. It caused the nail to tear (painful!) I finally treated the nail for a couple of weeks with aspirin powder and a bandaid and it is fine now.

    I generally use 7% iodine on all tick bites and now no longer get the reaction to the bite I used to.

    To neutralize the formic acid in bee stings and fire ant bites use Baking Soda.

    DO NOT use baking soda on chigger bites or you will have a real bloody oozing mess. BTDT Instead a quick shower/hose off before lunch and before dinner and bed. (rinses of enzyme and bugs) I just read peroxide works to kill the itch and it seems to but not enough data.

    We did have a goat get antibiotic resistant sepsis. Penicillin and LA 200 did not work. We kept her alive for about a year (litterbox broke and lived in the kitchen. She was a bit bigger than a cat.) We finally took her to the college where they put her down and did a necropsy. They could not believe we had kept her alive and in relatively decent health for so long. (Mineral salts, Calf Manna and a selection of goat goodies like honey suckle, gum, raspberry and rose leaves, wild lettuce, greenbriar… ) Says a lot about how important good nutrition is.
    Now the idiots in government/UN want farmers to have a veterinarian who is responsible for telling them exactly how to take care of their animals, GRRrrrr (The cost is $30-$60 dollars BEFORE the vet does a darn thing and the goat is worth ~$50.)

    From the United Nations FAO:

    June 2002 Good Agricultural Practices Second Version
    Animal health
    Successful animal production requires attention to health of livestock which is maintained by proper management and housing, by preventive treatments such as vaccination, and by regular inspection, identification, and treatment of ailments, using veterinary advice as required. Good agricultural practice will:
    • Minimize risk of infection and disease by good pasture management, safe feeding, appropriate stocking rates and good housing conditions.
    • Keep livestock, buildings and feed facilities clean and provide adequate, clean bedding under housed conditions.
    • Ensure staff are properly trained in the handling and treatment of animals.
    • Seek appropriate veterinary advice to avoid disease and health problems.
    • Ensure good hygiene standards in housing by proper cleansing and disinfection.
    • Treat sick or injured animals promptly in consultation with a veterinarian.
    • Purchase, store and use only approved veterinary products in accordance with regulations and directions, including withholding periods.
    • Keep detailed records of all sickness, medical treatments, and mortality.</bL
    7. Animal welfare
    Farm animals are sentient beings and as such their welfare must be considered. Good animal welfare is recognised as freedom from hunger and thirst; freedom from discomfort; freedom from pain, injury or disease; freedom to express normal behaviour; and freedom from fear and distress. Good agricultural practice will:
    • Provide adequate and appropriate feed and clean water at all times.

    • Avoid non-therapeutic mutilations, surgical or invasive procedures, such as tail docking and debeaking.

    Never mind that tail docking is for reasons of sanitation and in pigs to prevent infection from piglets biting each others tails. That debeaking prevents THIS. And that is in a homestead chicken and not a commercial chicken.

  10. Jason Calley says:

    Hey E.M., glad you are well. Wife and family always come first, so any absences from blog are already pre-forgiven.

    Speaking of skin spots… various fungal problems are easily treated with Vapo-rub or a generic equivalent. Does well for athletes foot or similar maladies.

  11. R. de Haan says:

    Nice to hear from you again.

    Just had a “ringworm” infection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatophytosis

    You know how it goes. You pet a dog, get stung bu a mosquito, start scratching and voila…

    I treated the spots with a product called” Lamisil Once 1%” which contains 10 mg terbinafine hydrochloride 10 mg and acrylate/octylacytamide, triglycerides and ethanol. When you apply the stuff you can’t shower for 24 hours. The treated spot feels like it is wrapped in plastic. The skin is completely dry and it obviously kills the fungus instantly.

    The GP I visited subscribed me an ointment from Sandoz called Miconazolnitrate but the ointment remained fluid on the skin and had to be used for three weeks. Because I know most fungus infections must be kept dry I took the Lamisil to do the job. Problem solved and a healthy skin within a week.

  12. andysaurus says:

    Welcome back EM.

    Tea tree oil works pretty well for such things. Here is a link for those interested:

    We used to use spray-on gentian violet for prophylactic avoidance of bacterial infection on my daughter’s horses. She got married and the horses got sold, so I don’t know if it is still available in Aus.

  13. R. de Haan says:

    Before I forget, I also disinfected all my clothes and completely cleaned the house and the cars with a disinfectant. Very important because this “ringworm” is as infectious as hell.

  14. Speed says:

    Medicine is an inexact science.

    Since these spots were small and localized, I’m surprised some healthcare professional didn’t suggest cutting them out.

  15. Sera says:

    How would you compare the water quality (hardness, taste, bathing ect.) of California vs.Florida?

  16. punmaster says:

    @ R. de Haan,
    Both of the antifungals you mention are used for athlete’s foot. I couldn’t get rid of athlete’s foot while I was a truck driver, taking showers on the road. I had to alternate the two each month to get any improvement. It never occurred to me to look for an alternative.

  17. crikey says:

    Sounds like you had scabies to me..

    A friend of mine caught scabies from leaning over an old roughs edged water tank.
    His waist was covered in red dotty skin
    This spread as scabies is a macroscopic mite and is contagious

    This was cured by methylated spirits/methanol and the parasite diesand the area goes brown then heals

    Cure cost him my bottle of old metho’ and a cotton ball….Total cost of immediate cure … Zilch..

    I gave up on modern day medicine the day the doc gave me some anti depressant that put me in hospital and unable to move for 3 days…

  18. omanuel says:

    E.M., your post reminds us that life is an energy consuming process.

    Various forms of life are all competing for the energy that sustains life.

    Current social insanity arises from arrogant ignorance of empirical reality:
    1. Life is an energy consuming process.
    2. All life is connected to the Creator and Sustainer of Life.
    3. If alive, you are connected to the Sustainer of Life, whether or not know it.
    4.Conscious awareness of that reality was historically acknowledged in
    _ a.) Religions: “Give us this day our daily bread,” i.e., energy.
    _ b.) Government: “We are endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights”
    5. In 1905 Einstein noted mass (m) is stored energy (E), E = mc2
    6. In 1945 atomic bombs revealed the destructive power of E = mc2
    7. Frightened world leaders arranged to hide the basic source of all energy
    8. It became politically incorrect to acknowledge in consensus science, religion, society, government that our lives depend totally on the Creator and Sustainer of Life.

  19. Animals (like you and me) are parasites on plants.

    The “stuff” that colonized your skin is a parasite.

    For reasons that I do not yet understand, the 1945 decision to hide the Destroyer of Life in Hiroshima and Nagasaki had unintended consequences: Alienation of mankind from the the Creator and Sustainer of Life.

    That seems to be the root of worldwide social insanity, but I do not know enough psychology to understand how that happened.

  20. John F. Hultquist says:

    Something new every day!

  21. Wayne Job says:

    Genuine old fashion lye diluted enough so that it does not take your skin off, kills all germs, virus and fungi. Removing its use for cleaning hospitals and using modern cleaners created golden staph and other problems that make going to hospital an adventure rather than a cure. Filtering water through wood ash gives lye, it kills ticks, fleas, sterilises wooden surfaces such as cutting boards, a wonderful product shunned by big chemical as it can be made freely at home.

    I had fifty years of ear infections uncured by modern medicine until I figured out it was a type of fungal infection, a few squirts in the ears of bleach and my hearing is now normal and no infection.
    So much for modern medicine, I have now for thirty years suffered a problem until I work out what it is, then I see a doctor, if he tells me crap I do not take his snake oil. Modern medicine seems more about money than actually fixing your problems.

  22. R. de Haan says:

    punmaster says:
    21 August 2013 at 7:13 pm
    @ R. de Haan,
    Both of the antifungals you mention are used for athlete’s foot. I couldn’t get rid of athlete’s foot while I was a truck driver, taking showers on the road. I had to alternate the two each month to get any improvement. It never occurred to me to look for an alternative.”

    Athlete’s foot is difficult to get rid off especially if it has affected the nails. But it’s easy to prevent.

    Alway’s wear (plastic) slippers in public showers and carefully dry your feet after taking a bath.

    Taking a long walks at the waterline of a sandy beach during a few days works wonders.
    Best natural cure against athlete’s foot available.

  23. punmaster says:

    It was hard to find a sandy beach to walk on in Minnesota or Colorado. Anyway, I don’t have the problem anymore. Medical condition and attendant drugs have taken me out of a truck. I don’t miss it a bit.

  24. Vinegar kills the fungus that causes athlete’s foot, if you have time to soak your feet in it.

    Here is a one-page synopsis of my research conclusions, in progress:

    Click to access Synopsis.pdf

  25. punmaster says:

    Interesting analysis, Oliver. Thanks for the link.

  26. P.G.Sharrow says:

    @Oliver; The use of the origins of life to help conclude the solar evolution of our sun is most interesting. A good read as well.
    I once rationally examined how gravity could cause a nebula to condense into our present solar system of rocky planets with a Hydrogen rich cored star. Not very satisfied with the result.
    Your Iron sun is a much better fit with the known facts.

    Now if I could just get you to see that the decay of Neutrons also demonstrates the possibilities of the creation of them in the Solar furnace Ferrous core. ;-) pg

  27. adolfogiurfa says:

    As the Sun is a CATHODE as referred to the Milky Way galaxy current, IT IS NOT NEUTRAL…though, most probably that small core in it is made mostly of iron.

  28. Tom Harley says:

    Indigenous people in the Kimberley still use the inner bark of certain trees to make a concoction to treat similar skin conditions rather than use modern medicine, I suspect the tannins have something to do with it. The most regarded species is Ventilago viminalis, but there are others. The inner bark is boiled in water for a time to release the tannins and whatever else is in it.

  29. R. de Haan says:

    You can also treat Athlete’s foot and other skin diseases with UV, very effective: Watched a consumer program about detergents and this lamp was tested too. Perfect result. Translate with Google: http://www.proidee.de/concept-store/nach-kategorien/home-garden-villa-p/buero/verilux-uv-c-stab

  30. pyromancer76 says:

    Just thinking about you. Hope wife had a fine time — and you, too. I imagine Florida would be very different than California and take some getting used to. You’ve got lots of suggestions above for remedies to spots, etc.; keep you pretty busy experimenting. Hope all is well. Keep well. Looking forward to more “conversations” when you are settled in and ready.

  31. Gail Combs says:

    Wayne Job says….
    Lye, is also known as caustic soda or Sodium Hydroxide with the chemical formula NaOH. It is a white solid and dissolves readily in water. A strong solution of NaOH will take your skin of and burns like Hades! A run-in with the stuff my first year working as a Chemist is why I never wear a wedding ring. (The scar is finally gone)

    I am not surprised it has been removed from use in hospitals since it needs a lot of care in its use and protective equipment. (gloves, goggles…)

  32. Graeme No.3 says:

    When dissolving sodium hydroxide (caustic soda) in water the solution gets VERY hot. Always add the pellets slowly to water while it is stirred.
    Very nasty death in my first year in factory. Sodium hydroxide put into bottom of tank and allowed to cake. Hot water ran in on top but because of the caking not much dissolved. Operator turned stirrer on and then prodded the bottom with rod. It boiled out of tank (at over 300℃) and over him. Fortunately he died in seconds.
    OK, talking of 400kg in 2000 Litres but same can happen on a small scale e.g largish lab beaker.

    EM. DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) is known to penetrate skin easily and to carry dissolved drugs etc. with it. Drawback is that your breath takes a strong garlic odour as body gets rid of it. On a small scale may be a way of getting actives to deeper areas in skin.

  33. Gail Combs says:

    Graeme No.3 says….
    NASTY! The stuff will dissolve a human body if strong enough.

  34. R. de Haan says:

    This is a great step forward in health diagnostics if the device works as presented: http://www.scanadu.com/scout/

  35. adolfogiurfa says:

    @R.de Haan: (Answering here):Of course life is beautiful, but what AT is pointing at is at the electromagnetic interactions casing some changes on Earth; he is not forecasting earthquakes in particular. Watch his older videos.

  36. adolfogiurfa says:

    typo: causing instead of “casing”

  37. adolfogiurfa says:

    What do think of this?

  38. R. de Haan says:

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  39. R. de Haan says:

    Adolfo, I have seen them all and although the combination of weather phenomena like stationary depressions and earth’s ion expulsion is an interesting observation, I hear him make too many alarmist claims like “the worst forest fires” in California and increased (above normal and raising) quake activity in Europe. This of course is all hog wash. I must say it took me some real determination to watch all the video’s because of the horrible background music. This is not way to introduce a serious (scientific observation/claim). Sorry, but that’s my 2 cents on the matter for now.

  40. I hope our friend E.M. Smith is simply busy working out another set of puzzling observations.

    Here is a one-page summary of reasosn to believe that government science was compromised after WWII out of FEAR of nuclear annihilation:

    Click to access Synopsis.pdf

    With kind regards,
    Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo

  41. E.M.Smith says:

    @Ralph B:

    The spouse liked Florida. The weather was pretty nice this time too… ;-)

    Zink is something I ought to pay more attention to, but havn’t. It has other benefits as well. (Cadmium disrupts zinc metabolism and causes dozens of systems to shut down. Zinc is in the middle of all sorts of metabolic pathways…)


    That zink / copper antithesis is interesting…. In a “someday” posting I’ve been planning to talk about the connection found between excess copper and Alzheimer’s so if zinc dumps the excess…

    @Tony Hansen:

    Well, hit another bump in the road… so was “Away from keyboard” for a couple of more weeks. (3 x 12 hour days in one week slows down the free time, but helps the billable time…) And some other stuff.

    Hopeing to get back into the swing of things now… “This time for sure”…

    The basic problem is GRAS. Generally Accepted As Safe. A lot of drugs were put in GRAS for a few decades. Then that exemption ran out. Now just who is going to spend $Millions to get a drug FDA certified safe for ¢ per bottle profit (if that)? So things like Coal Tar Soap and Mercurochrome have left the shelves in the USA.

    Probably ought to start collecting the formulas for making them so that isn’t forgotten…

    Methanol, wood alcohol, Methyl Alcohol are all the same thing. H3COH while the term “Methylated Spirits” can be the same, or, IIRC, can be ethanol with a bunch of methanol added.


    I’d tried ethanol and isopropanol. Not the same effect. I think the toxic aspect of methanol was part of the “feature” for the particular “bugs” in question.

    Some spots have not responded to the methanol, so I’m still looking for other stuff for them.

    Yes, part of the “method” is to keep the total surface area of skin treated very low at any one time so that the body burden of methanol is very low.


    Pretty simple. Put Q-tip in methanol, put on spot. Hold for about a minute. Repeate on next spot. Do about twice. Repeat a couple of times a day.

    @Steve C:

    I think it’s more than just making things dry. FWIW, I’ve also started putting vinegar on a couple of recalcitrant spots and they are responding to a pH excursion. Basically it’s various kinds of metabolic stress on things trying to live in the “dead layer” of the skin until they die off.

    How long the contract? NO contract person can ever know. It’s always possible that tomorrow a news story comes out on missed earnings and “all contractors must go”. (I had that happen at Schwab once… showed up at 8 AM. At 9 AM was one of about 15% of the total staff that were headed out the door just after the memo was sent out… ) I’m hoping for 2 years, I’ll be happy with one; it might convert to employee. Life is a crap shoot.

    @Gail Combs:

    Nice hints. I’ll have to try crushed asprirn (or slurry?) some time…

    @Jason Calley:

    Vapo-rub? Isn’t that just petroleum jelly and oil of eucalyptus? Hmm….

    (Bad memories of being told to swallow a spoon of it for chest colds cause an involuntary avoidance reflex…)

    @Andysaurus & R. de Haan:

    These things were much more static than ringworm. Not really growing for years, but a new spot showing up every year or two from scratch and re-scratch… Though the reminder to re-visit the vet department of the country farm store is timely…


    I was going to Kaiser. They are great for life threatening or crash victim in a few baskets problems, but if it isn’t killing you, they tend to see no reason to treat it… My GP (pre-Kaiser HMO) did once remove a “spot” at my request (and with my money applied)… I’d not found these enough of an issue to really even do much about them until recently ( a few decades in). Cutting and sewing would be more damage than the spots. (they were not perferating the skin for the most part).

    After a few visits to Kaiser, I basically gave up on the M.D. route (that is part of their strategy near as I can tell. Called “cost control”…)


    Water varies dramatically WITHIN both States. Can’t really compare a whole state one to the other. Generally, though, the water in Florida has been harder and a bit less tasty that the water in Silicon Valley. There have been a couple of exceptions, though, and it seems to vary more from “well to well” here in Florida.

    @Wayne Job:

    I was about to complain about Lye being unavailable (largely) then realized I’d not looked here in Florida… then you reminded me I can “make my own” with some ashes… So next BBQ ;-)

    @Tom Harley:

    I miss my 3 or 4 “plants as medicine” books on the other coast…


    life on the road is an exercise in persistent disruption. I’ve done it many times.

    From things like just learning what the local brands are for foods to adjusting to weather patterns to… It all sucks up some small amount of time each. Then there is just the added work of living entirely on your own. If you don’t wash it, buy it, toss it out, or put it away, it doesn’t get done…

    I’ve got my present place until end of October. So some small stabilizing has happened.

    Most interesting adaptation so far is that I’ve adjusted back to warm climate. I grew up in a place that was “110 in the shade and there ain’t no shade” (in F)… then moved to the S.F. Bay Area and felt cold for a half decade. Finally adjusted. First month here I was hot unless I had the thermostat at 72 F. Now I feel cold and set it up to 77 F to 78 F. Sometimes let it run up to 80 F… Got used to humidity too.

    @Graem No.3:

    I’ve worked with lye before. Know it well. Used to make soap for fun ;-)


    So, useful for disposing of unwanted bodies? :-0 (Shades of Dexter … )


    I don’t “do” facebook (or any other social media for that matter). See recent news on NSA and data suckage…

    We’ll now see if I can respond here, and then get a new posting up, all on a “school night”…

  42. R. de Haan says:

    Just stumbled on this subject by accident:

    Cancer, The forbidden cures
    Must watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWLrfNJICeM

    Dr. Simoncini: Most cancers are fungal infections as all tumors are white, pointing at Candida Abicans (lighting fungus) and the treatment is carbonic sodium.

    He treats skin cancers with a sodium tincture with great success.

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