This is a short posting. Just a comment on a world view, really.

FUD is Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. A term applied to the IBM strategy used to push folks away from perfectly reasonable alternative products. Luddites were folks opposed to progress. I’m coining a new term, Fuddites, to describe the attitude of the Global Warming Cabal. This posting just explains it.



Fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) is a tactic used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics and propaganda.

FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information. An individual firm, for example, might use FUD to invite unfavorable opinions and speculation about a competitor’s product; to increase the general estimation of switching costs among current customers; or to maintain leverage over a current business partner who could potentially become a rival.

The term originated to describe disinformation tactics in the computer hardware industry but has since been used more broadly. FUD is a manifestation of the appeal to fear.
The term appeared in other contexts as far back as the 1920s. A similar formulation “doubts fears and uncertainties” reaches back to 1965. By 1975, the term was already appearing abbreviated as FUD in marketing and sales contexts:
“ One of the messages dealt with is FUD—the fear, uncertainty and doubt on the part of customer and sales person alike that stifles the approach and greeting. ”

FUD was first defined with its specific current meaning by Gene Amdahl the same year, 1975, after he left IBM to found his own company, Amdahl Corp.: “FUD is the fear, uncertainty, and doubt that IBM sales people instill in the minds of potential customers who might be considering Amdahl products.” The term has also been attributed to veteran Morgan Stanley computer analyst Ulrich Weil. As Eric S. Raymond writes:

“ The idea, of course, was to persuade buyers to go with safe IBM gear rather than with competitors’ equipment. This implicit coercion was traditionally accomplished by promising that Good Things would happen to people who stuck with IBM, but Dark Shadows loomed over the future of competitors’ equipment or software. After 1991 the term has become generalized to refer to any kind of disinformation used as a competitive weapon. ”

By spreading questionable information about the drawbacks of less well known products, an established company can discourage decision-makers from choosing those products over its own, regardless of the relative technical merits. This is a recognized phenomenon, epitomized by the traditional axiom of purchasing agents that “nobody ever got fired for buying IBM equipment”. The result is that many companies’ IT departments buy software that they know to be technically inferior because upper management is more likely to recognize the brand.

Lately Microsoft has adopted the strategy:


Although originally associated with IBM, from the 1990s on the term became most often associated with software industry giant Microsoft. Roger Irwin said:

“ Microsoft soon picked up the art of FUD from IBM, and throughout the ’80s used FUD as a primary marketing tool, much as IBM had in the previous decade. They ended up out FUD-ding IBM themselves during the OS/2 vs Win3.1 years. ”

The leaked internal Microsoft “Halloween documents” stated “OSS [Open Source Software] is long-term credible… [therefore] FUD tactics cannot be used to combat it.” Open source software, and the GNU/Linux community in particular, are widely perceived as frequent targets of Microsoft FUD:

Statements about the “viral nature” of the GNU General Public License (GPL).
Statements that “…FOSS [Free and open source software] infringes on no fewer than 235 Microsoft patents,” before software patent law precedents were even established.
Statements that Windows has lower total cost of ownership (TCO) than Linux, in Microsoft’s “Get-The-Facts” campaign. It turned out that they were comparing Linux on a very expensive IBM Mainframe to Windows on a PC.
Statements that “If an open source software solution breaks, who’s gonna fix it?”

I’ve been aware of (and contending with) FUD since I worked at Amdahl in the early ’80s. Then contending with Microsoft as part of the Free Software / Open Source movement since I was at Cygnus Support in the ’90s (later folded into Red Hat – they made the compiler tool chain and I ran the documentation, QA, and IT functions there).

So I have a higher awareness and sensitivity to FUD than most. I spotted FUD being liberally applied in the AGW narrative “right quick”.

and Luddite:


Member of organized groups of early 19th-century English craftsmen who surreptitiously destroyed the textile machinery that was replacing them. The movement began in Nottingham in 1811 and spread to other areas in 1812. The Luddites, or “Ludds,” were named after a probably mythical leader, Ned Ludd. They operated at night and often enjoyed local support. Harsh repressive measures by the government included a mass trial at York in 1813 that resulted in many hangings and banishments. The term Luddite was later used to describe anyone opposed to technological change.

Luddites are folks who oppose technological progress and break things to get their way. Folks with a phobia about technology and progress.

IMHO, those two terms describe, accurately, the Catastrophic Global Warming Cabal and their Useful Idiots.


Useful idiot

Term invented in Soviet Russia to describe people who blindly supported the likes of Lenin and Stalin while they committed atrocity after atrocity.

Today, it refers to brainwashed liberals and leftists the world over (usually college students that aren’t necessarily idiots, but just misinformed, naive, and ignorant of facts due to being indoctrinated with liberal/socialist propaganda through their public education) who believe that George W. Bush has committed more crimes against humanity than leftist darlings like Saddam Hussain, Yasser Arafat, and Osama Bin Laden, and still defend Communism, the cause of over 100 million deaths to this day.

So, why not combine them into one term to accurately describe these folks?

Thus, fuddittes.

Feel free to use it with pride in your knowledge of the history of FUD, of Luddites, and of Useful Idiots.

Sidebar on Me

While most of the time “it isn’t about me!” holds. There’s a minor point where this is about me. Some years ago, about 2009?, I mentioned that I think a bit differently and have an internal process that is different from English. Some folks asked for a few clues about how that works. Well, this is an example. I coin “my words” all the time. Often to compress a lot of detail into a smaller token. So all that history of FUD and Luddites gets combined into a “tag” (to use current parlance) and that gets attached to people or properties as appropriate. So I use “Fuddites” “internally” when thinking about the AGW clown car circus. While “watermellons” has interesting connections, I think Fuddites more accurately captures my understanding of them.

So some thoughts are in terms of my own words, some are ‘tagged’ in a non-linear side tag (a sentence like “Hanson is arrested again” would have the equivalent of #fuddite appended) and some things are just thought as a visual or “grokked” gestalted whole. It all happens very fast, and it isn’t always verbal. But that’s how things happen “in here”. Oh, and I’m prone to a ‘Reverse Polish Notation’ form on some things. Had an HP calculator very early (still have it) and found that RPN is very efficient… Got built in to my processes for some things. (For those who don’t know, instead of: 1 enter + enter 2 enter = enter 3 you would have 1, enter, 2 enter, + enter and the answer is just displayed.

So for folks wondering about how things work “in here”, now you have a bit more insight ;-)

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A technical managerial sort interested in things from Stonehenge to computer science. My present "hot buttons' are the mythology of Climate Change and ancient metrology; but things change...
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53 Responses to Fuddites

  1. sandy mcclintock says:

    I like your term ‘Fuddite’!
    Could this mean that we skeptics are merely Uddites? :)

  2. Adrian Vance says:

    CO2 is a “trace gas” in air, insignificant by definition. It absorbs 1/7th as much IR, heat energy, from sunlight as water vapor which has 188 times as many molecules capturing 1200 times as much heat making 99.9% of all “global warming.” CO2 does only 0.1% of it. For this we should destroy our economy?

    The Medieval Warming from 800 AD to 1300 AD Micheal Mann erased to make his “hockey stick” was several degrees warmer than anything “global warmers” fear. It was 500 years of great abundance for the world.

    The Vostock Ice Core data analysis show CO2 increases follow temperature increases by 800 years 19 times in 450,000 years. That makes temperature change cause and CO2 change effect; not the other way around.

    Carbon combustion generates 80% of our energy. Control and taxing of carbon would give the elected ruling class more power and money than anything since the Magna Carta of 1215 AD.

    Google “Two Minute Conservative,” http://adrianvance.blogspot.com When you speak ladies will swoon and liberal gentlemen will weep.

  3. Verity Jones says:

    Wonderful, EM, just wonderful! A worthy neologism.

    Well Globull Warming is udder nonsense (groan – sorry couldn’t resist)

  4. Another Ian says:


    My go


    For those who spend too much time looking at computer screens and not looking out at the real world

  5. omanuel says:

    Thanks, E.M., for a wonderful birthday gift!
    The opposite of FUD is F_ _ _h?

  6. Speed says:


  7. adolfogiurfa says:

    O My! Everything it is a FUDDITES now!…Better to abstain from any information coming from a dying empire. Misinformation squared!

  8. adolfogiurfa says:

    So We are being FUDDED! and our genius E.M. realized it and has warned us!….O My! Fudded by the Fools!

  9. P.G.Sharrow says:

    GOD invented humans to dig up and combust carbon fuel to replenish the earths free carbon because his garden was dieing from Carbon Dioxide starvation. 8-)
    Burnt offerings to the GOD of Carbon will create blessings for us all! pg

  10. omanuel says:

    Great insight, P. G. Sharrow!

  11. Bloke down the pub says:

    Does that make the fudding idiots?

  12. E.M.Smith says:

    @Sandy McClintock:

    Well maybe ;-) But for some of us (like me), we are ever more certain that AGW is bunk. The “uncertainty” is near zero. And doubt is plunging too. I no longer doubt that warmers are mostly politically driven. So I guess I’m becoming more of a denier than a skeptic…. I deny that the warmers have it right, because they are wrong ;-)

    I have no fear. I have little uncertainty. I don’t doubt at all that it’s a political scam. But for someone who is just skeptical and has not settled on the “it’s bunk” side, sure uddite might fit…

    @Verity Jones:

    Thanks! Nice to hear from you again. I’m (too slowly) getting organized so as to have some time again, here in Florida. If it gets too cold “over there”, it’s nice and warm here ;-)

    I do note in passing that you are milking this joke for all it’s worth! (no, no, don’t groan, noooo!)

    @Another Ian:

    Reaching back to the neologism thread of yore? I like it ;-) A load of empixellated fuddites…


    Happy Birthday! I’d speculate the answer to your quiz is Faith ?


    Fudluddies has a certain British tilt to it… ludfuddies is more Aussy ;-)


    I’d always flagged AGW as a load of FUD, but only recently thought maybe everyone didn’t tag things as FUD… (or even know the term). It’s a very useful concept for tagging and flagging certain behaviours. Our current US government “players” are masters of FUD…


    My Burnt Offering was a nice Rib Steak, and the wave offering was a tasty yet cheap wine: Carlo Rossi Paisanno. About $10 / 3 liter jug, yet a pleasant flavor with foods. (All of which reminds me of other things I need to get re-started and back on track, now that I’m in catch up mode…)

    See my answer on OManuel’s challenge…

    Take a look at a map of coal in the usa (on the “no shortage of energy” posting) and you see that the carbon would, eventually, erode back into the sea and oxidize into the air. The notion that we “pollute” the world by digging it out and burning it is quite wrong (as burning it is cleaner than erosion). We are just the selected means to do it faster (since it is needed now) and more cleanly.

  13. E.M.Smith says:

    @Bloke Down The Pub:

    Yes! There’s the Fudding Leadership who uses fudding idiots to carry their fuddite message…

  14. adolfogiurfa says:

    So….Al baby was the “Fuddler on the roof” :-)

  15. John Robertson says:

    When you acknowledge their obsession with the precautionary principle, they really become Fuddy-Duddies.

  16. Jeff says:

    Udder madness…holy cow, they’re FUDDging the figures again….
    Hmmm…with the “Hide the Decline” takedown, would that make Mann
    an Elmer Fuddite? (sorry…)

  17. w.w.wygart says:

    P.G. Sharrow

    Jeeze! Am I the only person here who remembers the Church of the Sacred Carbon? https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/church-of-the-sacred-carbon/

    On another note. For my birthday last year my father gave me a copy of Naomi Oreskes’ book “Merchants of Doubt.” I took that as a kind of intellectual slap across the face, presuming my old man felt that I was a victim of FUD from the deny-o-sphere and was in need of some reeducation. FUD, it seems, is in the eyes of the beholder.

    E.M., most people “think a little different” and many coin their own words as well.

    For instance, the kind of backward-ass-regressive, thinking from the lower strata of the triune brain types who are operating at a level below fully-human, and who manufacture FUD to thwart people who hold positions differing from their own I describe as “slope-browed-retro-troglodytes.” This expression was engineered to be absolutely inclusive in its applicability regardless of: gender, race, religion, national origin, sexual or political orientation so feel free to use it – just don’t make an acronym out of it.


  18. philjourdan says:

    I am not sure the uncertainty applies. It seems they have a certainty that is not based in science. Like whack-a-mole, every time their suppositions are shown to be wrong, they create new imaginary friends that explain it all.

  19. John Michalski says:

    My mother always referred to it as “bass-ackwards”

  20. akaLogic says:

    So you think in Forth

    [Reply: Well… really push not push execute… Or maybe so. I learned it once at an early age ;-) ]

  21. Richard Ilfeld says:

    Fuddites are off hunting Wabbits!

  22. Richard Ilfeld says:

    per Delingpole, the warmists are watermelons. Hard to refute given current data and the political responses to it. The problem with progressives is that when FUD fails, what usually follows is the point of a gun.

  23. Bob Fox says:

    Fuddites , good word, and now we can argue about the provenance if it takes off!
    4 months ago, Bob Fox ,post#11, commenting about the use of the tactic by the EU to rubbish the opposition.
    Given that AGW alarmism is the official religion of the EU, This is more than mere coincidence. Fuddites really does sum up all these people beautifully.

    [Reply: I’m happy to concede precedence in parallel invention. I’d not seen anyone else use the term, but happy to see it catch fire. I have no ‘ego’ in all this. Just want AGW to die a quick and deserved death! ]

  24. omanuel says:

    Thanks to new information just received about facilities at Konan, Korea for enriching deuterium (H-2) when captured by Russian troops in Aug 1945, soon after Japan exploded its first nuclear bomb on 12 Aug 1945, we may now understand AGW’s Role in the Demise of Society, Science and Technology (1905-2013): Global warming is the Trojan Horse of the current “scientific” warfare.

    The first nuclear geo-scientist to visit the ruins of Hiroshima in Aug 1945, Professor P.K. Kuroda, launched me on a journey to the core of the Sun in 1960. He never told me where I was headed or what I would find.

    From his writings, those of Fred Hoyle, George Orwell, Robert Jungk, David Snell, reporter for the Atlantic Constitution and my own career, I found these historical events guided mankind from the horrors of 1945 to those engulfing us today.

    1. Einstein reported rest mass (m) is stored energy (E) in 1905. Aston had already warned in the 1920s that release of energy from cores of heavy atoms might ignite fusion of light elements in the Earth’s atmosphere.

    2. Before this danger was resolved, four atomic bombs exploded over a one month period in the late summer of 1945:

    _a.) July 16 in New Mexico
    _b.) Aug 06 Hiroshima
    _c.) Aug 09 Nagasaki Japan
    _d.) Aug 12 Konan, Korea

    The public was not told about #4.

    3. Earth’s atmosphere did not ignite. Russian troops captured Japan’s A-bomb facility at Konan, and shot down an American plane trying to obtain information. The American crew were held captive and perhaps used as pawns in negotiations.

    4. Without telling the public about the fourth atomic bomb, and with limited information about its nature, the United Nations was formed on Oct 24, 1945 to protect world leaders and society from extinction by nuclear annihilation, igniting deuterium (H-2) in the yet hidden hydrogen bomb.

    5. Two empirical facts were hidden from the public after 1945: Neutron repulsion causes

    _ a.) A-bombs to explode
    _ b.) Stars to make hydrogen

    6. USA’s ignition of nuclear fusion in H-bombs with fission cores was finally announced to the public in early 1950s

    7. On 18 Nov 1956 Communist leader Nikita Khrushchev told leaders of the West, “We will bury you !”

    8. On 4 Oct 1958 USSR launched Sputnik, preparing to take control.

    9. Joseph Kennedy spent a fortune to get his son elected in 1960, to keep Richard Nixon out of office and to end USSR’s domination of space.

    10. John Kennedy established the Apollo Mission to end domination of space by the USSR. The Cold War almost erupted.

    11. Kennedy was killed in office in 1963 after the Bay of Pigs invasion and the Cuban Missile Crisis.

    12. Richard Nixon assumed office in 1972, ended the Apollo program, and returned the USA to its 24 Oct 1945 destiny under the UN.

    13. Tearing down the Berlin Wall and the supposed collapse of the USSR: A Hollywood production by one of its greatest actors, Ronald Reagan?

    14. AGW’s LEGACY: Western economies collapse battling an imaginary problem while Russian forces dominate inter-continental ballistic travel and space.

    With deep regrets,
    Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo

    See this one-page synopsis of my autobiography, “A Journey to the Core of the Sun.”

    Click to access Synopsis.pdf

  25. omanuel says:


    8. On 4 Oct 1957 USSR launched Sputnik, preparing to take control.

  26. omanuel says:

    My autobiography will acknowledge author, Mr. Bill Streifer, his co-author, Russian reporter Irek Sabitov, and Stanford physicist Kenneth N. Ricci as the source of information about USSR troops finding a facility to produce deuterium (H-2) in the Japanese nuclear bomb production site captured in Aug 1945 at Konan, Korea.

  27. Power Grab says:

    This being the page on Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt, and the most likely place to post my question, here goes:

    [Sorry if this is rather OT]

    I just saw this article:


    It made me wonder if the unkillability of Obamacare is due to its being a method of collecting huge amounts of taxes to be sent farther up the food chain (never more to be seen by the peons)?

    That’s just one part of the question. Here’s the rest:

    Assuming the gummint ends up as the single-payer for American health care, and since they’re going to try really hard to make sure they know where all your funds come from and go to, are they going to try really hard to help a sick person survive if they have lots of debt, or little-to-no debt?

    For instance, should a person at an age within 10 years of retirement, who has no mortgage and no home, try to get a mortgage? Would that cause them to be looked upon with favor by the bean counters who will end up running health care?

  28. omanuel says:

    You are on the right track, Power Grab. Just follow 1, 2, 3 . . . to total control of the world.

    1. H-fusion bombs use atomic bomb triggers to ignite fusion of deuterium (H-2).

    2. USSR troops found a facility to produce deuterium (H-2) in the Japanese nuclear bomb production site that they captured at Konan, Korea in Aug 1945.

    3. USSR possessed information to build the first H-bomb and could negotiate for unconditional surrender of Allied countries when they met to form the United Nations on 24 Oct 1945.

    That explanation for Climategate and the collapse of Allied constitutional governments will be in the autobiography currently being written, “A Journey to the Core of the Sun.”

    The summary was already posted above.

  29. omanuel says:

    Forgot to mention the Power Grabbers are in for a big Halloween surprise:

    The creator, destroyer and sustainer of every atom, life and world in the solar system lurks beneath the Sun’s placid photo-sphere, in absolute and total control of everything in the solar system, including even the Power Grabbers.

    Click to access Creator_Destroyer_Sustainer_of_Life.pdf

  30. should be appropriate penalties, to fit their crime: http://globalwarmingdenier.wordpress.com/climate/

  31. omanuel says:


    Those who have illusion of control are no more evil than the rest of us.

    The illusion of power corrupts as much or more than the actual possession of power.

    Since Japan had facilities to produce deuterium (H-2) at Konan, Korea and the H-bomb uses an atomic bomb to fuse H-2, USSR had access to H-bomb technology when USSR troops captured the Konan site in Aug 1945.

    Thus, USSR had the strongest hand at the negotiating table when the UN was formed in Oct 1945 and seems to control most of the globe today.

    Despite Ronald Reagan’s assurance the Evil Empire died !


  32. J Martin says:

    @ Omanuel.

    14. AGW’s LEGACY: Western economies collapse battling an imaginary problem while Russian forces dominate inter-continental ballistic travel and space.

    You were close, replace the word ‘Russian’ with the word ‘Chinese’ and I think you have it.

  33. omanuel says:

    They work together to outmaneuver selfish capitalists (bankers, private owners of communications, energy, manufacturing, pharmaceutical and medical concerns) into working with them to enslave the public.

    Unfortunately, the illusion of power is boundless, corrupts without limits!

  34. O Manuel. I fully agree with you on everything, apart I don’t think that Japan ever exploded any atom bomb

  35. omanuel says:

    @ stefanthedenier

    David Snell, “Japan developed atomic bomb; Russians grabbed scientists,” The Atlanta
    (Headlines, page 1, 3 October 1946) http://www.my-jia.com/The_Flight_of_the_Hog_Wild/Atlanta_Constitution_David_Snell_atomic_bomb_Korea.htm

  36. Chiefio,
    I hope you will be having a house warming soon. Now the weather is approaching delightful a BBQ would be wonderful.

    Ines & I are looking for a suitable gift.

  37. omanuel,
    I seem to recall you saying that the Japanese moved their atomic bomb project to Konan in Korea after Curtis LeMay fire bombed Nagoya.

    I seem to recall you claiming that the USA dropped its third atomic bomb on Konan on August 12, 1945.

    The newspaper report you linked says that the nuclear explosion at Konan was a test initiated by the Japanese. Does either story have any credibility?

  38. omanuel says:

    No, your second paragraph is wrong. If an atomic bomb exploded on 12 Aug 1945, it was Japanese.

    The sad fact is that leaders of Allied and Fascists forces, Japan and the USA, Communists and Capitalists, Democrats and Republicans, Liberals and Conservatives – all faced the same harsh reality: Enslave the people or face possible instant death from nuclear annihilation.

    That is why Barack Obama and Ronald Reagan cooperated to enslave us.


  39. omanuel says:

    Nobody, absolutely nobody, wanted to accept the possibility of instant death.

    That motivated leaders of all nations that understood atomic bombs – USA, Japan, Germany, USSR, etc. – to work together to hide from the public the empirical fact that neutron repulsion causes cores of heavy atoms, ordinary stars, galaxies and some planets to:

    1. Emit neutrons that decay to H, or
    2. Fragment explosively

  40. J Martin says:


    A short video illustrating that 40% of the wealth of the USA is held by just 1% of the people.

    The wealth distribution curve strikes me as being similar to the USA national debt curve. Perhaps the two are related in some way. I wonder if a graph of the rate of wealth concentration would match the US debt curve.

    Maybe capitalism has a few problems at the extremes, a tendency to monopoly, which leads to exploitation of the system at the expense of the people and of the nations debt with the state legislature going along with it as they see themselves as individuals benefiting. Its just more cronyism, another more modern form of tribalism.

  41. omanuel says:

    Society is very sick now. The question is how can society return to sanity?

    Fear, anger and resentments, whether justified or not, are blocking progress.

    I have been guilty of venting anger myself, knowing that my government was less than candid about
    1. The Sun
    2. The Atomic Nucleus
    3. Enforcing the Constitution

    But I also know that FEAR of nuclear annihilation convinced world leaders to deceive.

    Would I have reacted differently? I do not know. So I need to let go of anger and try to help find a way for society to move past mistakes of 1945 and reclaim our birthright to live happy, joyous and free.

  42. J Martin:
    In 1916 Robert Michels observed that all forms of government tend towards oligarchy. The people who have power work to increase their power and control. Wealth follows power so you should not be surprised to find 40% of a country’s wealth controlled by 1% of its population.

    Is this a healthy situation? Absolutely not! Acemoglu and Robinson in their book entitled “Why Nations Fail” explain why economic growth cannot be sustained when power is concentrated into the hands of an elite.

    Sadly, Acemoglu and Robinson have no prescription for addressing the problems created by oligarchies and ruling elites. Mankind is doomed to refresh the “Tree of Liberty” with the blood of tyrants.

    Jesus wept.

  43. Zeke says:

    Galloping Camel, thank you for recommending that book.

    It is now less than 10 dollars for a paperback, or 11 dollars for a kindle version. I had planned to get it but decided on several other books at the time.

    The idea of individual liberty, and of virtue, and personal commitments in relationships and in one’s vocation, are practical matters on which a successful society can be built and sustained. Over and over again, the ideas of Plato and Hobbes and Marx have been falsified by the observations. Government does not provide relief from “the war of all against all,” but is extractive and deadly when it is centralized, or highly stratified into separate classes with separate laws. The genius of open societies has shown that the action of free and rational people is more like a self-organized living being, with many emergent qualities, and is not a war of selfish interests. It is the source of invention, innovation, and preservation.

    The love of liberty and of virtue and personal commitments in relationships and in one’s vocation can only be kept alive in the human heart, by free will. No outward system guarantees their survival. “Because iniquity will abound, the love of many will grow cold.”

  44. omanuel says:

    Climategate was but. symptom of the problem. Two recent videos explain society’s underlying problem to the public.



    George Orwell recognized in 1946 that a new tyrannical government was coming, but the validity of his predictions in “Nineteen Eighty-Four” was overlooked.


    Climategate emails and documents in Nov 2009 confirmed government deception of the public for decades.

    Loss of integrity in science, banking and constitutional government occurred simultaneously, because selfishness is the root problem.

    Now we must find a way for our leaders to get out of the trap they and their predecessors built to control the world and save themselves.

    They are not going to come forward and admit that banking, science and government were corrupted in 1945 out of FEAR of nuclear annihilation.

    That is our current problem.

  45. Zeke,
    A&R (Acemoglu and Robinson) take on the challenge of explaining why nations fail.

    That is above my pay grade so I am writing a book about why K-12 education fails in the USA. The book is titled “The Power of Failure”. Government schools in the USA provide “Smart Fortwo Cabriolet” performance at “BMW 7-Series” prices. How can such such epic failure continue for generations?

    Why is the failure actually getting worse in spite of the endless exertions of state and federal governments since the clarion call of a “Nation at Risk”?

  46. Zeke said:
    “Over and over again, the ideas of Plato and Hobbes and Marx have been falsified by the observations.”

    What a profound observation! No matter how many times these Utopian dreams create death, destruction and human misery on a vast scale there will always be a band of suckers in university common rooms convinced that it will work when they are in charge.

    The latest Marxist “Prophet” is Slavoj Žižek. He is an excellent and entertaining writer. His observations on the “Arab Spring” and events in the USA are interesting and perceptive. You should read his 2012 book “The Year of Dreaming Dangerously”. Here is an Amazon tickler:

    Žižek wisely avoids discussing Marxist history except for a couple of paragraphs around page 54.

    When it comes to Marxism I respect Havel and Klaus who experienced it at first hand. Havel wrote the “Power of the Powerless” which one can read in an evening. Here is an excerpt:

    Klaus tells us that when overt Marxism failed it went underground:

  47. M Simon says:

    selfishness is the root problem

    Uh. No. All humans are selfish. It is in our nature. The problem is that we get situations where selfishness does not or can not compete with selfishness.

    i.e. crony (political) capitalism vs competing capitalism.

  48. omanuel says:


    Thanks for the links.

    This video illustrates the basic error in binary choices:


  49. omanuel,
    That plantation parable captures how I feel about the two major political parties in this country. Power is sucked towards the center no matter which way we vote.

    My favorite bumper sticker is:
    “Under Republicans, man exploits man; under Democrats the opposite applies”.

    When the slaves on the plantation are allowed to keep a portion of what they produce amazing things happen:

  50. E.M.Smith says:


    Ooooh! I LIKE it!

    And I see John Robertson and Jeff are getting into the mood too!


    Um, no. I too think about it. It’s a ‘work in progress’ that has been interrupted by the need to eat and pay bills. Sadly. I’ll get back to it. It gnaws at me. Finishing the connections from very old roots to rational world view…

    I “met” Naomi in that she was on a panel at Stanford and I was in the audience (in a room of a couple of dozen). Not impressed. Yet Another Selfaggrandizing Manipulator, IMHO.

    Per “inner words”: Many people do it (not all…). I do it way more than most. Some “words” are just visual image flashes too. It’s a complicated symbol world / language. It’s an Aspe thing to some extent. Synesthesia when in an extreme form, or just “vinegar people” in a mild form as an example ;-) So some folks I think of as ‘vinegar people’ and some as “fluffy” and…

    At any rate, I’m only sharing a few ‘inner words’ since some folks asked about them. No ‘agenda’, just examples for amusement. Mostly I use them as a compact and fast way of doing symbol thinking.


    Well, there’s a general factoid that Marxists follow. They have a True Believer attitude about the core of Socialism. Everything else is secondary. One of the “values” it espouses is that a lie that furthers the agenda is a good thing. That there is no ultimate truth nor any absolute values. That all is relative. (Gross generalization, but captures the trend…)

    In that context it starts to make sense.

    @Richard Ilfeld:

    Groan!…. ( I like it ;-)

    Per “Watermelons”: Well, the “Green Movement” started under the Nazis (no, not a pejorative statement. Just a historical fact. I have been a member of the Sierra Club, contributed to Greenpeace, and have been a ‘Friend Of The Earth’… prior to their demise…)

    I’ve also said I could make a decent philosophical argument for “3rd Way Socialism” or “Market Socialism” or {variety of other Lange Type Sociaisms} and likely better than for pure capitalism. Only problem is that it inevitably decays into tyranny and collapse…

    But, in the end, the “green movement” of today, along with the Dimocrats, and a few others are all about Central Authority and the demise of liberty and individual choice. Doesn’t matter what you call it. It’s something I’d christen “Smith’s Razor”: IF a system argues or works for more Central Authority and Central Control, it is an authoritarian and socialist entity. IF a system argues for authority and choice at the individual level, it is for liberty and freedom.

    I could also point out that it doesn’t matter what you say, it’s what you do that matters. And that ANY agency person or power that advocates for any thing to be done in the Federal level that could be done at the State, County, City, or individual level; that entity is a force for eventual evil.

    So, be they called: Progressives, Aso-Liberals, (American Liberals), Socialists, Marxists, or a dozen other “ists”: All that matters is asking “Do they work for Central Power, or against it?” All of them are of the same ilk. Working to make the People chattel to the Central Authority. It is Evil, no matter what the name.

    So, in that light:

    Who works for Central Power and Authority:

    Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, British Crown, Democrats, Republicans (since Nixon), Imams, EU.

    Who works for distributed self organizing systems with power at the local / county level?:

    The uninterpreted U.S.Constitution (and not much else these days). Maybe the Free Software Movement and some of Anonymous. The Libertarian party to some extent.

    Sad really, but true.

    More in a bit. I’ve got a posting queued up to type in (on encrypting phones for private secure communications) but the Rum Glass is empty and needs refilling ….

  51. p.g.sharrow says:

    I have been thinking that we need a grassroots “Constitutional Court” based on Smiths county representatives. No connection to the political system, no power except persuasion of arguments The only requirement is to examine and pass on the actions of Federal court and agencies in the light of the Constitution as a written contract to control federal actions. The Supreme Court has proven to be unable to read and understand the document. Someone needs to pass on their work and they are political animals that worry about their image in history. pg

  52. Zeke says:


    I can’t read that doc yet. Working on it!

  53. I’m still working on it, but I already know that Dr. Nishina and the Japanese Army didn’t get as far as the Dr. Arakatsu and the Japanese Navy. The Army was basically at Konan and the Navy was basically at Kyoto and then Konan toward the end of the war, which might have been as early as mid-1943.

    Apparently the Navy was working on an atomic pile; to produce plutonium for a bomb, or to power a naval vessel, we don’t know yet. But they did do the calculations concerning the amount of uranium, heavy water, the level of uranium enrichment, and the level purity of the heavy water… I’m have Japanese furmulas into modern nuclear physics with the help of a Stanford nuclear physicist who has been helping design heavy water / light water nuclear reactors for 8 years, so he knows a thing or two.

    — Bill Streifer “The Flight of the Hog Wild”

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