Oklahoma Takes A Stand

Well at least someone has the courage to do it.


Governor Fallin Defies EPA and President Obama

Accusing President Obama and the Environmental Protection Agency of fighting a war against utility consumers, Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin issued an executive order this week declaring Oklahoma will not file a State Implementation Plan or SIP with the EPA regulating carbon dioxide emissions produced by Oklahoma power plants.

The administration’s efforts to force utility companies to convert from coal-fired power plants to natural gas has become a controversial issue. Governor Fallin’s order also requests Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt to “take action as is necessary to enforce the rights of the state of Oklahoma and its citizens from such federal actions as may impact the freedoms of its people.”

Her order follows Pruitt’s recent actions involving a lawsuit filed by Oklahoma and several other states challenging the EPA’s proposed new Clean Air Act rules against the power plants.

Now if only some of the male governors would “grow a set” and act half as bravely for their States.

The Progressive – Socialist – American Social Liberal – Left (whatever they are calling themselves today) has, ever since the Civil War, tried to paint “States Rights” as meaning “Racism”. That is a bald faced lie, but say “States Rights” in a conversation and watch what happens. This EPA overreach is a great example of what States Rights is really about. The right of a State to control its own laws, its own economy, its own political agenda, and I’d add, its own schools.

Over the years, we’ve had ever more destruction of States Rights in an ongoing effort to centralize power into one Central Authority. It does not matter if it was a Republican or a Democrat in D.C., they all pulled power to the center. (And along the way slowly destroyed the heart of America). The latest round being this EPA power grab. Many folks today forget that not that long ago there was NO Federal Department Of Education. At that time our education was largely driven by local or at most State levels. It worked much better then and with much better results. IMHO, it is just one of the Central Authority power grabs that needs to be simply eliminated wholesale. We simply do not need it, and it breaks more than it fixes. Flush it.

Originally, the EPA did some good. I remember the horrid smog in Los Angeles when I first went there at about 4 years old. Standing at the end of one block it was hard to see the other end / intersection. Topping the Grapevine and looking down into the basin, it was a dense gray soup. Now the air is substantially clean. For that, the EPA was a good thing. Yet in about 1980 or so they ran out of real problems to solve. Since then, they have set about pushing for ever more irrelevant things to justify their continued existence and paychecks. Now they have become a political tool to bludgeon States.

That is exactly why our original constitution had the President appointed by the Electoral College which was appointed by the States as they saw fit, and the Senators were appointed by the States in whatever manner they chose. So that the States would have a representative of their interests in the land of Central Authority and would assure not too much power was shifted there. The Central Authority folks didn’t like that, so have slowly made changes to assure power shifted… always dressed up in “more Democracy!”, and forgetting that Plato classed Democracy as one of the bad forms of government. (It is prone to “two wolves and sheep voting on what is for lunch” with weak minority rights and collapse as soon as folks realize “they may vote for themselves the largess of the public purse”.)

This is especially important now when “treaties” are used as a back door legislative end run and the check / balance on them of the Senate is no longer answerable to the States, but only to a “democratic” direct vote (and that only distantly as money now drives elections more).


U.S. Constitution – Article 1 Section 3

Article 1 – The Legislative Branch
Section 3 – The Senate

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, (chosen by the Legislature thereof,) (The preceding words in parentheses superseded by the 17th Amendment, section 1.) for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.

Article 2 – The Executive Branch
Section 1 – The President

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

(The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not lie an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two-thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice-President.) (This clause in parentheses was superseded by the 12th Amendment.)

No, the original system was not perfect and had “issues”, but IMHO, the “fix” was worse than the problem and a better “fix” ought to have been applied.

Notice that these rules were designed to have the V.P. and President be of separate paths and likely of different ideas. That gave the V.P. as head of the Senate reason to not go along with the President on quite so much. Similarly, the President was to be elected by the States. After many years of effort, the States have been pushed into having “popular elections” for their electors. Now there is even a strong movement to eliminate the Electoral College. THIS is why we have had ever more Central Authority and an ever growing move toward Imperial Presidency in this country.

Simply because we have abandoned the notion of States Rights and forgotten that there was supposed to be a strain between the Central Authority and its tendency to always grow and The States with their desire to keep authority for themselves.

Compare now, when President and V.P. are of the same “ticket” and party, when Senators are elected directly by the people based on who promises to give them the best cut of pie and funded by massive “donation” machines with the expected quid pro quo.

So this latest EPA grab is just one more step along the line of stripping the States of any role other than a subsidiary one and concentrating ever more power in the Central Authority.

I’m just glad to see at least ONE Governor standing up and saying “No!”.

Now if we can just start moving more things back from the Central Authority and into the States…

At this point we’re pretty much left with the only power that resides in the States being the amendment and constitutional convention choices. Until the several States find a way to get their rights back, expect to see continued domination and subjugation by the Central Authority. It is always thus. So I’m wishing Gov. Fallin well, and hopefully her State and people will back her up. Longer term, though, we need to redistribute back to the States some of what they have given away to The Feds.

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6 Responses to Oklahoma Takes A Stand

  1. M Simon says:

    And yet Oklahoma is in the forefront of the Communist notion that you can shut down unapproved markets by government fiat. It seems that no major party is totally immune to the siren call of communism (government control of economics). The result – if there is enough demand – is a Black Market.

    None the less. Good to see them resisting the EPA. If only they could apply that kind of thinking to ALL the three letter agencies.

  2. Jack says:

    Just done a short study on Irrigation Management Transfers. Transferring management of irrigation areas from government to local areas. Where government gets out of the way, it succeeds. Where government retains control, too much time is taken in reports than getting things done. As a consequence, operations and maintenance fall away badly and productivity drops.
    That should be a major lesson to central planners. But central planners love to shuffle papers as if that is important. Shuffling facetious reports is seen as action but it never even grew a weed let alone something useful.

    Climate clangers take note. They want control over every little thing you do ” to save the planet”.
    Tell the busybody to get out of the way. Human ingenuity will save the day, then the planet.

  3. mddwave says:

    Just curious, I wonder if you have any thoughts about improving the selection process of senators? As you mentioned, there are flaws with state legislators’ method and direct popular vote method.

    I have thought of an alternate method. My two main goals are to increase state representation and reduce voter fraud. My method is basically the following:
    1. The number of senators for each state will be increased from two to three. There will be election every two years for senator.
    2. For senate legislative action, each state will have only one vote. The vote will be based upon the majority opinion of the three senators (3-0, 2-1, 2-0). The respective state will have NO vote if there isn’t a full majority opinion (no 1-1, 1-0).
    3. Only the most senior senator (4 plus years) may represent the state on committees. Seniority is only good for six years, within the state.
    4. The number of Electoral College votes will remain fixed at 438 (150 senators and 288 representatives.)
    5. The election of senators in each state would be a modified electoral college.
    a. Based upon last census, each state would be divided into approximately equally populated areas (of 1000-2000 eligible voters) called “wards”. There areas would be adjacent sections/subsections with essentially the same square geometry. No gerrymandering.
    b. Each “ward” would have a popular vote for the senator. Each “ward” would have a modified Electoral College vote for senator with highest votes within the “ward”.
    c. The state would select as the senator with the most “ward’ modified electoral college votes. California would have approximately 19,400 “wards” based upon 2000 eligible voters.
    d. Audits will be done on “wards” where the number of votes cast is significantly different from census or last election. Audit will also be done if the difference between 1st and 2nd place is less than 2% (or some statistically significant number). Perhaps, revote with lots of surveillance, etc.?

    In spite of goal to improve the process, I suspect that any constitutional changes will be nearly impossible with “Central Authority”.

  4. E.M.Smith says:

    @M. Simon:

    Do realize that the last vote in Florida came darned close to legalizing medical marijuana. It will pass next time. Florida is from much the same southern conservative bent. Yes, Oklahoma and Texas may well be last to tumble, but it is only a matter of time.


    Control Freaks don’t quite get it that THEY can never process as much information as effectively as a distributed gaggle of “ordinary folks”. Just not possible. Not enough bandwidth.

    That basic fact, blended with “emergent systems”, is why Free Market based economies win over central planning, and central planning always collapses. Well, that, and graft & corruption…


    Looks awfully complicated to me. I’d break out some of the bits as distinct not just Senate things.

    Like having all districts be made up of square wards of a few thousand population (allow one edge to be non-strait at State borders or 2 for the ‘corner pieces’. Then any district has to be made of strips of wards that are as square as possible (i.e. State edges will be wavy and you might have one edge with an adjoining district that is only partial to keep the population about equal).

    That gets rid of the gerrymandering for most things. Stand alone.

    How to “audit” also gets a stand alone.

    Don’t see why the mix of popular and ‘electoral college’ votes, nor how it helps or hurts.

    The increase from 2 to 3 is interesting, but I’d suggest that at any one time, one of the Senators must be “back home” listing to the people. Then the other two must come up with a consensus and vote. A ‘deadlock’ is a vote to not pass a new law. Rotate who is home every 3 months or whatever… Based on ‘first elected goes home first’ so as not to let folks play too many schedule games with packing the schedule and sending all the junior new party home… Or, perhaps, have it that ONE of them can be on committees, but doesn’t get to make the State’s Vote, while the other two get the general vote, but not sit on committees…

    But I still don’t see how this gets back to the State having representation instead of it just being House Of Representatives with strange rules. Maybe have on Senator appointed by the State Legislature and One by the Governor and One via direct election…

    And yes, any attempt to change how the Senate work will, surprise surprise, not be passed in the Senate… so it can only be done via a State’s Constitutional Convention, which scares the pants off everyone so much as it is entirely open to anything that it will never happen.

  5. p.g.sharrow says:

    “Never” is a long time! Not a bet that I would make ;-) pg

  6. M Simon says:


    Some crazies are working on a Con Con and are getting close with a “Balanced Budget” initiative. I think they only need a few more States.

    Texas is closer than I thought:


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