OK, I watched the Democratic “debate”.
Largely it was “who likes kittens the most”…
But I really like Crazy Uncle Bernie.
He is an honest and unabashed Socialist. You know exactly where he stands.
It didn’t hurt that he “has clue” that giving 6 banks the bulk of all financial markets was not a good solution to ‘too big to fail’, that he thinks maybe if they are too big to fail they ought to be broken up and made smaller, not larger, and that the repeal of Glass-Steagall was a mistake and Democrats ought to ‘put it baaaack’…
Frankly, it was looking at the choice of a pure and honest Socialist vs the Liar In Chief Hillary well versed in bafflegab vs the Pro-Politician All Faux But Progressive Gov. that had me finding I was happiest with the honest Socialist.
Don’t get me wrong, this is only a review of the debate. I’d take any of the Republicans over this dog’s breakfast… but within the field, I found I kinda liked Crazy Uncle Bernie…
He has that same kind of outside the box train wreck attraction as The Donald. Honest, if not quite all in touch with anyone else…
Never mind that ‘free stuff for everyone’ comes with a price tag he can’t see. At least he knows that the system is corrupt and broken and would like to break it up and start over. I’m good with that… in a 3 Stooges Comedy ‘at least it will be fun to watch’ kind of way…
Leaving me with the question of “Beer or Whiskey?”… how long will this process take?…
Musings from the Chiefio 
The Paris attack finished the Democrats
If the Republicans can whittle the field down to a sane candidate and start all pulling in the same direction I would hope they could pull off a Reagan class land slide. Unfortunately I am not sure that will happen and worse given the mess Obama will leave behind it might be the worst thing that could happen for conservatives because the Media would hang those problems around the Republican’s neck like a millstone rather than acknowledge their origin.
I also expect an effort for a large terrorist action here in this country or against one of our nationally flagged assets in the near future. ISIS has already issued a warning of that nature, and you can only have 100% success on counter terrorism for so long. Sooner or later they will get lucky, or we will get careless. If it happens prior to the elections it would crush the Democratic positions on immigration and their “highly effective” efforts to smash ISIS ( /sarc )
Keeping fingers crossed we stay lucky but not counting on it. I actually worry more about a Paris style attack on a major money center like London or New York as they could also trigger additional destabilization in the financial markets into a full on crash driven by emotion which will push things beyond the recovery point.
I understand what you are saying, I did not watch but about 12 seconds of the debate but could not handle Clintons blatant lying and political spin. Settled for watching twitter comments on the debate, according to them it was so exciting that they ended the debate about 7 minutes early.
Yes Crazy Bernie is entertaining, O’Malley a nothing while “Pants on Fire” Hillary was the star of the show. The Powers that Be of the Democratic Party have vowed to take the party off of the cliff to follow her. Her only hope to stay out of prison is election, meanwhile the Obama machine is grooming some unknown guy named Castro to be their next offering.
The Donald’s alligator mouth is getting old and his position at the front of the mob is in doubt. I don’t think he can stand to be second and will quit the race. Carson might be a nice guy but he is way out of his weight class. Rubio and Cruze are the next to shine. We will see if they can get and keep traction. The old pros Christy and Bush are getting no where fast. No big thing as they are both professional East Coast Liberal Republican politicians, part of the problem not the solution.
The rest are just want to be amateurs.
Rubio appears to be the next candidate of the professionals and Cruze of the “tea party” wing.
Smith’s observation of selection would seem to indicate VP Bush and one of the 2 new boys as pres…pg
If I was mystified as to the quality of all the candidates for president in the last two elections the quality of the contenders from both sides this time round leaves me dumbfounded.
In particular the current front runners in each camp, Clinton and trump, seem to me to be the stuff of nightmares.
Where are you getting them from these days? There must be some brilliant potential presidents out there, are they all in business making money or is the system keeping the best and brightest out of contention?
Tonyb
EMS:
“Crazy Uncle Bernie” is the same phenomenon that resulted in Jeremy Corbyn winning the election to head the Labour Party in the UK. He believes what he says and people are so sick and tired of “the professionals” that they respond. The “professionals” have refused to accept the result. (Sorry, I forget that french term for the inner circle of politicians, bureaucrats and media).
The same feeling applies to the other side, as you recognise. The question is “will this be enough to get elected?” and I think not, especially as the media and the usual suspects will be against it. Rubio will bring in some of the latino vote which would help, but it would be too much to have Jeb Bush from the same State as his running mate. Are there any sane politicians available from California? Indeed are there any sane politicians available from other populous States, e.g. Texas?
I suspect it is a case of no rational person would run under today’s conditions. A boat load of wicked problems and a media that can’t be trusted to give a fair accounting and solid background on issues.
It is a nightmare scenario – – – The sort of nightmare that could lead to a complete implosion of one or both major parties when the average folks simply get fed up and go stand on the balcony and start screaming “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any more!”
Graeme No.3 says:
15 November 2015 at 9:39 pm:
@Graeme;
Cruz, a Cuban American, is the first term Senator from Texas. Not sure if any of our Congress critters from California are of presidential quality…pg
Your choices from California are either rabid communists and hard core PC Socialists, or RINOs that can pass as one.
BTW, I would never run for president just due to the media slaughter on family, friends, 10th grade teachers, etc. Then, if you win, you live in a fishbowl isolated from reality, and spend all day every day dealing with politicians, media, and lawyers.
You must be insane to want the job.
@EMSmith; I would have to agree. Every time I have ventured into politics it was disgusting, the kinds of people you have to deal with, and good folks seemed to stand behind you. WAY BEHIND, like out of sight, and the scumbags would surround you and act like they were your best friends…pg
Abe Lincoln said, The only reason for him to get into politics is to prevent a bigger scoundrel from getting the job. After elected he said, He felt as if he was the guest of honor at a hanging…pg
IMHO you like Uncle Bernie because he comes across as sincere.
I have to agree with you. No matter how crazy Bernie’s ideas may be he has much more to offer than Hillary Clinton with her record of deception and her belief that she is above our laws.
Martha Stewart went to jail for offenses that are trivial compared to what Hillary is accused of.
I agree he is an unabashed socialist. I disagree he is honest. He is as deceitful as any progressive. He cannot bring himself to say “Islamic Terrorism”. And he blames all things on capitalism or its by products. He has no ethical or moral integrity.
I think the country is pretty messed up financially, and I’ve been saying for years we need a businessman to run things for awhile…..I guess that means Trump or possibly Fiorina.
I also think the border should be closed and our immigration system required to follow the law, as well as repeal the anchor baby provision. Cruz and Trump seem strong on immigration.
I’m open to hearing why I should vote for any of the candidates, but after seven years of bathhouse barry, any republican will be better than a demorat.
@G.C:
Yes! I disagree with what he has to say, but support and admire him for saying it openly!
@PhilJourdan:
It is a very fine line between “Dishonest Progressive” and “Willful Ignorance” and just “Ignorant fool”… but I repeat myself…
@Glenn999:
Yes, we are. Unfortunately, thanks to an embrace of “Modern Monetary Theory”, so is almost all of the rest of the world. Including China.
Don’t forget that Dr. Carson had to run his own practice… and was on boards of companies.
Our “immigration system” is now 100% a political tool of the Progressive Left to destroy the traditional American Exceptionalism.
I forced myself to sit through the entire Democrat “debate”. “Little Shop Of Horrors” IMHO. Not one Kennedy Democrat among them. (Nor a Reagan Democrat… I knew him before he became a Republican. HE didn’t change, his party left him and the Republicans moved left on top of him.)
At present, I’d rank the Republicans as, roughly:
{Trump | Carson | Rubio | Cruz } first tier.
{Carly | Huckabee | Jindal } second tier.
{Bush | Christy | Rand Paul | Santorum | Graham} good enough tier
{Kaisich | Gilmore | Petaki } Who again? Oh, yeah, they’re OK I guess tier
{the rest of the 35, yes, 35, candidates listed: http://2016.republican-candidates.org/ }
Though I must say that one of those 35 ‘also ran’ caught my eye:
http://2016.republican-candidates.org/Kittington/
Black lady who’s a Navy Vet. Christian Conservative. I’d love to see a cat fight of her vs Madam Hillary… With the White House
Plantationgrounds in the background /sarc;http://www.kittington2016.com/
Hmmm…. Carson / Kittington … Has a nice ring to it ;-)
(A fella can dream, can’t he?)