International Events – Venezuela & Russia & Bears, Oh My!

A short treatise on Politics. “Poli” meaning “many” and “tics” from those blood sucking creatures that carry diseases and like chewing on your ass…

Venezuela

Well, I’d predicted it would have a revolution in 3 weeks, it is now over 4 weeks and it didn’t, so I presume they got more beer supply (what with that Spanish loan to the brewer and all).

Now a curious thing, the Unaligned Nations are supposed to have a Summit in Venezuela Real Soon Now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Summit

16th 26–31 August 2012 Iran Tehran
17th 13-18 July 2016 Venezuela TBA

Now if you go searching for information on the “17th Non-Aligned Summit” you get many references to one in Tehran that most folks call the 16th, but the Iranians seem to call the 17th. Somebody can’t count all that well, it seems. Or Tehran called a do-over and it IS the 17th, but maybe didn’t happen either?

http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/politics/65661.html

7th Summit of the Non-Aligned Movement will be held in Tehran
Feb 2, 2015 – 3:26 pm

The 17th Summit of the Non-Aligned Movement at the level of Foreign Ministers will be held in Tehran in June 2015, the secretariat of the organization announced.

The 16th meeting of Heads of State and Government also took place in the capital of Iran in August 2012.

It was attended by representatives of 120 countries, including 24 presidents, the heads of three monarchies, eight prime ministers and 50 foreign ministers. The chairmanship for three years was transferred to Iran, which will hand over its powers to Venezuela at the 18th summit in September 2015, Tass reports.

Check all you want. All I’ve been able to find are out of place references to Iran as “going to happen” in the past, and spurious statements from 2015 saying that the Venezuelan one is being postponed to, well, to now. Nothing about now. Like this one:

http://www.caribbeandigitalnetwork.com/venezuela-proposes-17th-nam-summit-for-july-2016/

Venezuela Proposes 17th NAM Summit for July, 2016
Caribbean Digital Network | November 13, 2015

CARACAS (Prensa Latina) – President Nicolás Maduro will suggest to the Non Aligned Movement to hold the 17th summit of the group here, on July, 2016, a diplomatic source announced today.

According to a message posted on Twitter by Foreign Minister Delcy Rodriguez, the NAM summit will be held on July 14-16, 2016.

Venezuela will assume the pro tempore presidency from Iran during that meeting, expected to be attended by all 120 member countries of the bloc.

In September, 2014, when Maduro announced that he would lead NAM, he said efforts would prioritize the presence of the voice of the peoples in world processes without impositions.

Given that Venezuela is a Royal Mess, I think it isn’t going to happen. Maybe. But maybe it will be moved somewhere else, or somewhen else, again.

Maybe that’s what it means to be non-aligned… nothing lines up…

From what I think might be the Iranian site (link broken by me so as not to have a connection with them: http: namiran.org/ ) just to give you warm fuzzies, here’s the subtitle of their organization banner:

“Lasting Peace Through Joint Global Governance”… not like anybody would be nervous or antsy about a Global Government doing that job, or the Iranians being big wigs in it…

In other news…

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/andres-oppenheimer/article73657547.html

Bold added by me:

Andres Oppenheimer

April 20, 2016 8:12 AM
Venezuela nearing total “collapse”

A top International Monetary Fund economist says Venezuela could reach “total economic collapse” in 12-18 months

Judging from similar cases in Latin America, it’s hard to see how President Nicolas Maduro can finish his term in 2019

Democracies in the region should collectively press Maduro to respect democratic rules, and avoid a military coup.

A recent International Monetary Fund report that Venezuela will reach a 720 percent inflation rate this year — the highest in the world — has drawn a lot of media attention, but what I heard from a senior IMF economist this week was even more dramatic.

Robert K. Rennhack, deputy director of the IMF’s Western Hemisphere department, told me in an interview that Venezuela is on a path to hyperinflation — the stage where the economy reaches total chaos — and could reach a “total collapse of the economic system” in 12 to 18 months if there are no changes in economic policies.

“Inflation in Venezuela probably entered on a hyperinflationary path in 2015,” Rennhack says. He told me that he expects Venezuela’s inflation to reach 2.200 percent in 2017, and could balloon very fast to 13,000 a year, the stage that most academics define as full-blown hyper-inflation.

Editorial: Venezuela is grinding to a halt amid chaos

[…]
Rennhack said his team of economists looked at previous episodes of hyper-inflation in Bolivia (1982-1984,) Argentina (1989-1990) and Brazil (1989-1990.) From those experiences, they concluded that Venezuela is on a similar path as these countries were between 12 and 18 months before their hyper-inflationary crises.

President Nicolas Maduro’s term ends in 2019, although the opposition MUD coalition is considering launching a referendum to demand early elections.

Is this Maduro’s final year in office in Venezuela?

Many Venezuelans believe the country will explode much sooner than in 12 to 18 months. Prices go up daily, supermarket shelves are near empty, there are growing electricity shortages — Maduro has declared every Friday in April and May a non-working holiday in order to save energy — and crime statistics are skyrocketing.

The Venezuelan currency, the Bolivar, is increasingly worthless. Not even robbers want it: a few months ago, news report quoted an engineer named Pedro Venero as saying that he was attacked by armed robbers who were looking for U.S. dollars stashed in his home, but refused to take Bolivars.

Essentially, Venezuela is on economic death watch and Hospice is being called… When even the robbers won’t take your currency, it is pretty much worthless.

The major questions now are just when, and in what manor? (Elections, Revolution, Invasion, etc. etc.)

The rest of Latin America is looking askance at them too:

http://en.mercopress.com/venezuela

Monday, June 27th 2016 – 08:01 UTC
Temer will be absent from Mercosur summit; displeasure with Venezuela
Temer ”does not wish to participate in the solemnity of the event when Venezuela takes over the Mercosur presidency
“according to sources in Folha de Sao Paulo.

Brazilian interim president Michel Temer will be absent from the next Mercosur summit scheduled to take place in Montevideo, and this decision is considered a strong message to the Venezuelan government of president Nicolas Maduro that will be taking the group’s chair for the next six months.

Tuesday, June 28th 2016 – 06:28 UTC
Mercosur presidential summit off, but chair transfer to Venezuela will be done at foreign ministers’ level
“There won’t be any presidential summit, but yes the Mercosur chair transfer to Venezuela for the next six months will take place”, pointed out the two ministers

Mercosur presidential summit next July in Montevideo has been cancelled, but the six-month presidency of the group, currently held by Uruguay will be transferred as scheduled to Venezuela, although some conditions of the event are “pending discussion”, said on Monday foreign ministers Susana Malcorra and host Rodolfo Nin Novoa.

Thursday, June 30th 2016 – 13:22 UTC
Paraguay does not accept Venezuela as Mercosur pro tempore chair; group split in half
Loizaga said Paraguay will not accept Venezuela’s presidency since “it’s not a good message for Mercosur because we were not consulted, nor was Brazil”.

Mercosur is again split over Venezuela because Paraguay, and apparently Brazil, have not been consulted regarding the decision to hand the pro tempore presidency of the block to Venezuela in July, as was agreed in Montevideo by Uruguay and Argentina.

Wednesday, July 6th 2016 – 06:54 UTC
Brazil asks Mercosur chair transfer to Venezuela to be delayed until August
Serra told Uruguay president Vázquez, “we’re asking for more time. Let’s wait ’til August, the Mercosur presidency must be the result of an unanimous decision”

The deep differences among Mercosur members as to who should hold the group’s rotating chair this second half of the year surfaced openly in Montevideo with the surprise visit of Brazilian foreign minister Jose Serra and ex president Fernando Henrique Cardoso. The Brazilin delegation formally requested Uruguay, which currently holds the six/month Mercosur chair to suspend the transfer to Venezuela until at least August.

Friday, July 8th 2016 – 04:56 UTC
Uruguayan government insists in transferring Mercosur presidency to Venezuela
A release from Uruguay’s foreign ministry, which was not signed by Nin Novoa, reiterates its decision to transfer the Mercosur chair to Venezuela

Uruguay ratified on Thursday its willingness to transfer the Mercosur presidency to Venezuela despite objections from the other members, Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina. In a brief statement in its official site, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said that Uruguay, currently holding the Mercosur pro tempore chair “reiterates its position to proceed to transfer the presidency, in abidance with what is established by the current Mercosur rules”.

So that’s two international Summit Bodies that are all messed up over Venezuela…

And all of South America waiting for Venezuela to collapse so they can get on with life.

From Russia, With Bruises

The Nightly News was dominated by a lost guy running out of the Dallas police parking structure and all of Dallas’s finest looking for him under every car, so the potential start of W.W.III was relegated to the Crawler at the bottom of the screen.

Searching on line, I found many articles, but in order to avoid US / European/ Russian bias, I’m linking to one from Al Jazeera, who ought to be a bit jaundiced about all this… if you want other sources, just search on “Russia expels diplomats”…

Seems the USA and Russia have been tossing each others diplomats out. Never mind that this often precedes fighting. Never mind that Russia has a pattern of military action during The Olympics (and their track and field were kicked out for doping). Never mind that Russia likes doing things in the Lame Duck part of a presidential term, knowing The Prez usually doesn’t want to sully his exit with a surprise war (especially THIS Prez.) No, far more important for Barry Obummer to fly off to Dallas to argue for disarming the voters.

The USA “diplomat” got into a dust up with a cop when the “diplomat” was “trying to enter the US Embassy”. So the USA expelled 2 Russian “diplomats”. So Russia tatted the tit and expelled 2 US “diplomats”. Keep this up, the booze budget in the capitals could be severely impacted…

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/russia-expels-diplomats-tit-tat-move-160709140506319.html

Politics 12 hours ago

Russia expels two US diplomats in ‘tit-for-tat’ move

Moscow’s move comes in response to Washington’s decision to expel Russian officials over an attack on a US diplomat.

Moscow says that both expelled US diplomats were CIA agents [AFP]

Russia has said it expelled two US Embassy staff members in a retaliatory move after a similar action by Washington last month.

“After their unfriendly step two employees of the US Embassy had to leave Moscow,” the foreign ministry said in a statement on Saturday, citing Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov.

One of the expelled diplomats was involved in an incident with a Russian policeman near the US Embassy entrance in Moscow, Ryabkov said, also claiming that both expelled diplomats were CIA agents.

“They were declared persona non grata for activities incompatible with their diplomatic status,” he said on “the tit-for-tat expulsions”.

“We hope Washington recognises all the same the perversity of its anti-Russian line. If they decide there to move further along the path of escalation it will not remain unanswered,” Ryabkov warned.

US move

The US State Department on Friday announced that it had expelled two Russian officials over an attack on a US diplomat in Moscow.

Department spokesman John Kirby said that on June 6, a Russian policeman attacked the accredited US diplomat in question while entering the US embassy compound, after the US official identified himself.

“On June 17, we expelled two Russian officials from the US to respond to this attack,” Kirby said.

Moscow, disputes the US version of events and insists the diplomat was a CIA agent who attacked the policeman as he tried to stop him to check his ID as he returned from a spying mission in the city.

Relations between Russia and the US have chilled following Russia’s annexation of the Crimean peninsula from Ukraine in 2014, after which the West imposed sanctions against Russia.

Season with Russian jets buzzing US fleets, US moving forces into the Baltic area, and more…

https://www.rt.com/news/345510-us-forces-march-lithuania/

US forces rumble across Lithuania to large-scale Baltic NATO drills (VIDEO)

Published time: 6 Jun, 2016 01:26
Edited time: 6 Jun, 2016 06:55

A newly released video shows US armed forces marching through Lithuanian territory as they take part in “Dragoon Ride II,” a tactical march taking place ahead of NATO’s massive annual military drills that will be conducted in the Baltic States this year.

In the video, columns of US military vehicles, including Stryker M1126 Infantry Carriers and M1128 Mobile Gun Systems equipped with 105mm cannons, can be seen moving along the streets of Lithuanian cities.

Military columns consisting of 10-20 vehicles rumbled along the route from the city of Kalvarija to the city of Panevezys throughout the day, Lithuanian Defense Ministry said.

In the second part of the video, US military vehicles are seen parked near a shopping mall in Panevezys, as US soldiers show the vehicles, weapons, and equipment to locals.

Dragoon Ride II is a “2,200-kilometer [1,370-mile] tactical road march from the town of Vilseck, Germany to Estonia” that is being conducted from May 27 to June 15 ahead of the annual drills, according to the US army’s official website.

Its purpose is to “demonstrate a dynamic presence throughout the region by showcasing freedom of movement,” the statement on the website says.

The demonstration of military might features “1,400 Soldiers and 400 vehicles stopping in several cities to host public displays of their equipment along with their Allied counterparts.”

The march is being held in the run up to “Saber Strike 16,” a US-led multinational exercise that has been held annually in the EU since 2011. This year’s exercises will take place in the Baltic States – Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania – from May 30 to June 22.

Nearly 10,000 service members from 13 states are to participate in the drills. Apart from major NATO forces and those of the host countries, troops and military equipment from Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Norway, Poland, Slovenia, and the UK will also take part.

They have a photo of a B-52 with a caption that they are headed over too…

What could possibly go wrong…

In Conclusion

So our President is indulging in Domestic Navel Gazing and a lust to disarm Americans, while South America grinds to a halt, the Middle East is mid-war, and NATO pees in the Russian Garden… And the Russians are sharpening their long knives…

God I wish we had someone with a clue running our country.
Anyone, of any party, just with a tiny bit of clue…

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42 Responses to International Events – Venezuela & Russia & Bears, Oh My!

  1. John Robertson says:

    Wishing won’t help us.
    Maybe good old inertia will.
    The cluelessness of our elected leaders rises exponentially in relation to our collective wealth.
    Times are fat and comfortable so only the most unsuitable people are willing to run for elected office.
    Finally we have all positions of authority filled with fools and bandits.
    To quote Frank Zappa” Civilization will grind to a standstill”.
    Then the institutions fail,our networks are impeded and we suffer, get cranky, behead a whole bunch of useless and clueless people with massive collateral damage.
    Repeat as necessary.
    How many revolutions did France finally have?

  2. p.g.sharrow says:

    Putin is wrestling with Obama and looks to have the edge, so his minions feel the same. BUT! Russia is not the U.S.S.R. and America even without her allies is formidable. Russia is a dying nation. Dangerous to be sure, but not a real opponent. The nation that I fear is the one that is in hiding within our own government. The Obamanation that has been working to radically change America into a 3rd world country. They have been attempting to sow chaos among the population to create the revolution that they plan on ridding to absolute power. So far the American people have refused to participate. They can be lead but they won’t be stampeded.
    Soon the Beast will take over from the Deceiver and G.E.B.s of the world will not be pleased with their treatment at his hands. Their carefully laid plans will become chaos. There is opportunity in chaos…pg

  3. gallopingcamel says:

    The elites that run this country for their own benefit have done a terrible job and especially the regimes headed by George Bush (The Younger) and Barack Obama. It no longer matters which party is in charge……………deficit spending rules.

    In December 1999 the national debt was $5.7 trillion…………..today it is $19.3 trillion.

    Hillary Clinton wants to double down on the stupid policies that have bankrupted the USA.

    I don’t believe Donald Trump can balance the federal budget but at least he has promised to try!

  4. gallopingcamel says:

    @p.g.
    “Soon the Beast will take over from the Deceiver”

    This is a little too deep for me. I imagine Obama is “The Deceiver” you are referring to. That seems to be an apt description of someone who seldom speaks the truth.

    When you refer to “The Beast” do you mean Clinton or Trump? Please explain why you think of them as beasts.

  5. p.g.sharrow says:

    While some call Hillary Clinton “Hilldabeast” she is just another crooked politician that would continue to play the same old games.
    The “Beast” is a totally different creature, he can’t be bought, can’t be intimidated or blackmailed. From the point of view of the rest of the world, a Beast, that institutes a PAX on the world. The world of carefully organized connections of the G.E.B.s, the Communists, Oligarchs and Muslims will be turned into chaos. Their wager on the Clintons lost. For 70 years America has been the helpful neighbor even toward those that wish ill for the Americans, this will be no more under the Beast.
    The beast will pave the way for the Wise Old Man.
    To make an omelet you must break a few eggs. ;-) ..pg

  6. Margaret Berger says:

    The beast is george soros, obummer, hildebest, are puppets. He runs this country and europe thru merkel, He is the one who wants open boarders, world wide and has supported them. He funds black lives matter and the groups that pushed migrants on europe.

  7. J Martin says:

    GC. The US debt is interesting, US bank derivatives are many times larger and look like an even bigger economic crash than the last one. Deutsche bank alone is exposed to more derivatives than the whole of the EU economy. The big banks have derivatives of 5 times the world economy. Surely this a pack of cards with Ponzi scheme on the back.

    PG the Indian airforce was invited to war games in Arizona and beat the American airforce with a kill rate of 9 to 1. The Indian airforce were using Russian jets. Looking forward, the Russians are about to introduce an anti stealth fighter missile, so the US would be unlikely to have air dominance, also current and pending Russian anti aircraft missile are the equal and will son be better than the current crop if US missile, the US stealth fighter has reportedly got software problems, the HB1 visa us being abused which will lead to a lack of homegrown software talent, caused by youngsters not taking it up at college because they know there won’t be any jobs for them, and as modern warfare becomes ever more dependant on software…

    NATO is completely insane playing war games on the Russian border. Russia is not an enemy of the west, we won the cold war, if you go be a tourist in London UK you can come across groups of Russian school kids on tour, they are indistinguishable from any western kid or teenager, they wear jeans, have iPhones and listen to western pop. The main threat to the west is in the middle East, not Russia.

    In the Baltic the agreed it’s are the US and NATO, the Russians have said that if the NATO aircraft turn on their responders then the Russians will do the same, NATO has ignored this request, NATO are in Russia’s backyard, the request seems reasonable to me.

  8. J Martin says:

    Typos typos. And lousy auto correct. . “Agreed it’s” is of course aggressors. I really must get a bigger tablet.

  9. J Martin says:

    Oh,and in a recent international software competition for students, Russia were the winners, China came second and the USA were third.

    Also on RT, Russia Today, was a Russian schools innovation and robotics show, if it hadn’t been for the audio I would have had no idea which western country I was looking at. Since Russian kids are to all intents and purposes westernised I really think that NATO has no purpose in playing dangerous games on the Russian border. No one wins that one if the out of date ludicrous hawks in the NATO and US military accidentally start a nuclear exchange. Which presidential hopefuls will reek back the pentagon extremists and prevent ww3 ?

  10. J Martin says:

    Ii googled “key to the next banking crisis” and amongst the links got a debt overview , 12 trillion of money printing and its effects.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/01/financial-armageddon-crash-warning-signs

  11. E.M.Smith says:

    @J Martin:

    Very similar idea to my oft repeated mantra that “loose monetary policy can not fix bad fiscal policy”.

    The global banking system is sure that “enough” free currency can get economic activity up, without any other action being a constraint. It does work, but only for a few years. Then the patient habituates to the drug and more is needed just to stay normal.

    Now we are entering the terminal phase where the drug spigot is wide open (zero and even negative interest rates) and the economy continues the metabolic slide into torpor and hypothermia… just like pumping more speed into a starved person in a cold water bath.

    The answer isn’t more meth, it is to stop sucking the heat out of them (cut taxes) and give them some food (fewer profit killing regulations so the food of profit can get natural warmth going).

    Oh Well. Maybe after the next half dozen economies collapse someone in government will figure out it is a bad parasite that kills their host…

  12. p.g.sharrow says:

    Politicians and Bureaucrats0 believe that THEY provide an essential service to society and can not conceive of the possibility that they could be the cause of the problem,
    “The beatings will continue. If that does not work, they will be increased until it does.”
    More government is the only solution they can provide.
    We don’t need them…pg

  13. gallopingcamel says:

    @p.g.
    “We don’t need them…”

    So true……………….but the elites have already rigged the system so that votes no longer matter in the European Union.

    The USA is galloping down the same path. One more liberal “Supreme” transforms the highest court in the land to a rubber stamp for every anti-democratic fiat from the Oval Office. The US Constitution will then mean whatever they want.

  14. p.g.sharrow says:

    @gallopingcamel; …………”.but the elites have already rigged the system so that votes no longer matter in the European Union.”

    Interesting POV but from what I can see the EU bureaucrats have no real power at present.
    If the Locals demand rejection from their local government Brussels has no enforcement power on their own. This is the reason for the Full Court Press against the nations involved to Force capitulation to EU control over taxing, security and military. This is always the end game in establishing a Communist Soviet or Peoples Dictatorship. At present the nations involved could just tell the Brussels Bureaucrats, Game Over. We Don’t Need YOU! and shut off the money. The key is the money. Bureaucrats do not create wealth and they need Gunmen to enforce collection from those that do.
    The French and German Elites each want to rule all of the continent. At present they want to gang up on the others to force their vision into being, but they are only helping forge the chains that will bind them to Brussels, FOOLs.
    The only hope for Europe is, if Britain escapes the clutches of the Dictators in Brussels, then once again the English / Americans will in time Liberate Europeans from their own foolishness…pg

  15. p.g.sharrow says:

    The Elites talking heads always yell at the top of their voices that, “The argument is over, We have all ready won. You are all ready defeated, There is no going back, etc. While really at that time, they have nothing but noise for their power. Only after you surrender to them do they have real power.
    Europe does not need the Brussels bureaucrats and their Elite Commissars to survive. Fire them while you can. You don’t need them…pg

  16. Larry Ledwick says:

    “Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated”!

  17. omanuel says:

    The public is justifiably seething with anger at external (UN, EU, etc.) pseudo-governments and false, irrational, worldwide “consensus science.” That crisis that will be addressed at London GeoEthics Conference on 8-9 Sept 2016:

    https://geoethic.com/london-conference-2016/

  18. gallopingcamel says:

    @p.g.,
    “Interesting POV but from what I can see the EU bureaucrats have no real power at present.”

    Wow! Where did you get that idea? The UK Prime Minister went to Brussels with a laundry list of requests for reform…….every one of them was rejected.

    Then there are the mind numbing bureaucratic regulations. Imagine the EPA with powers broadened to control every aspect of the goods and services that you can buy.

    I escaped from a “Welfare State” in 1982 only to find my wonderful adopted country (the USA) determined to build a socialist utopia just like the EU. Fortunately there are still a few brave souls resisting but if we fail this fine nation will fall apart just like the EU. If “Brits have the grit” for BREXIT, who can doubt that “Texans have the grit” for TEXIT?

    Please indulge me by devoting an hour to watching the BREXIT movie. If you still don’t get it after that let’s establish on “off line” discussion.

    Just in case you missed the link to the movie, here it is again:

  19. Another Ian says:

    I already put this up in tips but bugger it I’m brave

    http://realclimatescience.com/2016/07/on-dallas-craigslist/#comments

  20. philjourdan says:

    Russia is hedging its bets. Putin knows Russia can act with impunity as long as Obama is at the helm, and can continue that with Hillary. But he is not sure she will win, so he has to grab his goods now before Trump possibly takes over. Hence the belligerence. Putin is probably the smartest world leader at this time. He is definitely the most ruthless.

    As for Venezuela, it has gone past the tipping point. They will continue to paint the shell trying to convince themselves all is well with the rotten interior, but it is only a matter of time before a complete breakdown. And some leaders, even in the South American and Non-Aligned movement, understand that. Maduro does not, but he has never been a bright fellow, just an opportunistic thug.

  21. E.M.Smith says:

    @Philjourdan:

    Venezuela has had me thinking “How could this be reversed, even at this stage?”. I think it is possible but that what it would take will not happen.

    The “fix” is pretty clear. Dump the leadership of the government, haul in a load of generators to stabilize power and a load of food and medical supplies (along with a small army to defend it all and manage the hand-outs), and cancel any money printing. Redeem all outstanding Bolivars at a fair (i.e. low but not ruinous) rate in some international currency ( $US or € or £ or…) and essentially restart the economy with that currency.

    In short:

    Toss: Existing political leaders and system. Currency. Local army control (unless it can be recruited to the effort).

    Supply: Functioning military government, international currency, food, fuel, electrical power, medicines.

    Then you can set about the process of transitioning back to a reasonable stable civilian government.

    Now who is going to supply the $Billions needed to make that happen? The force with which to deliver it? I don’t see anyone.

    Also, it is only really different from a basic self collapse in that the poor get hurt less and the existing infrastructure is preserved a bit more. (Possibly also a few more local Generals and Military Officers do better as they don’t suffer from a “military coup” against them…)

    So again, not seeing a lot of motivation for it.

    Add in that TPTB seem (evidenced by their actions) to want chaos and death of “the little people” as a form of population control and again I’m just not seeing what “movement” is going to reverse this prior to collapse and destruction. But I think it could be done.

    With a population of 31.4 million, it isn’t a small place where you could just send in a Navy Task Force and airlift in enough supplies to keep the place going. It would require a land force and support by their neighbors. Which neighbors would that be? The little three nothings along the path to Brazil? Colombia from whom they split about 180 years ago (and is only now stabilizing on their own after their recent government issues)? Other “Bolivian Republics” from the Andes? (And how do THEY get there?). That just leaves Brazil. A different language and culture, and sometimes at odds with the rest of South America, currently in their own growing socialist collapse (early stages)?

    None of them can, or will, support Venezuela via force, and it can’t be fixed without forcible removal of the government that is screwing things up.

    The USA isn’t going to do it. First off, all our forces are busy (and shrunk too small). Second, our Dear Leader sees nothing wrong with their form of Government. Third, he’s busy with political parties for the next year. Fourth, the American People don’t give a damn about Venezuela ( I doubt 10% could tell you what or where it is…). Fifth, Puerto Rico is in line ahead of them, and we’re doing damn near nothing for them… etc. etc.

    Europe? Now? So sorry, busy with Brexit, Frexit, Nexit, Grexit, …

    Russia? Um, got to pick up a few Baltics and bit more Crimean area first…

    At the end of the list, you get China. They could likely buy the place and fix it up, but that’s pushing the limits of Bolivarian Social Doctrine… Though I think there is an edge case in the Venezuelan Government “cutting a deal” with China for “rescue for oil”. A 30 year contract for oil deliveries (and Chinese ownership of the new production facilities) in exchange for a massive emergency effort now. That would work, but China will get a better deal just after the collapse, so would likely “negotiate slowly and wait”…

    So at the end of it all, I see it as “technically possible” to prevent a collapse, but politically impossible largely due to the stubbornness of error in thinking.

  22. EMS,
    Re Russia, you may enjoy this http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/22/dr-strangelove-gen-philip-breedlove-is-naked/

    I think Obama has done a fair job of keeping us out of new wars. When you consider all the deaths, and complete destruction of countries like Vietnam, Syria, Bosnia, Afghanistan and Iraq, it looks like America is the premier terrorist nation.

  23. E.M.Smith says:

    @Adrian:

    It is always a race condition. and the USA always has more “sellers puff” (aka bluster) while Russia always has crude looking tools that just work, and loads of grit.

    Per who is the tertorist and who the cop…

    The simple fact of history is that Islam is often, deeply, and repeatedly the aggressor /terrorist. Similarly the various Socialisms (Stalin, Nazi National State Socialusm, PolPot, Facisti 3rd way socialists, etc etc) have killed 10s of millions each (Mao too…). By any numerical measure, the USA is a footnote.

    Per Obummer, he has reignited Iran and Afghanistan, and lead to Benghazi and Egyptian and Syrian f-ups. Sure, not as many American boots on the ground… so more brown people dead… nice legacy that…

  24. gallopingcamel says:

    The incompetence of the Obama regime has created ISIS terrorists overseas and “Black Lives Matter” terrorists at home.

    If Hillary Clinton is elected it will be Obama’s third term with all the incompetence, lack of transparency and contempt for voters that implies.

    Probably the most eloquent opponent of such stupid government is Bill Whittle. His research is thorough and devastating. As he points out in the attached video Hillary Clinton has already committed crimes that make her ineligible to hold public office.

    The Clintons have used their high positions in our government to become wealthy. They started out in petty fashion with questionable “investments”, “Travelgate” and stealing furniture from the White House.

    When nobody was able to stop them they became bolder, shaking down banks for $245,000 for a twenty minute speech and foreign governments for tens of millions of dollars.

    Who can stop them? Our “Department of Justice” under Holder and Lynch only enforces the laws Obama likes. This country was created to end the tyranny of king George III and now must find a way to end the tyranny of elites in Washington, D.C. If we fail Texas and many other states will vote to secede and the “United States of America” will follow the “European Union” into well deserved oblivion.

  25. Graeme No.3 says:

    I think you should allow a little latitude for Putin in that he is a russian. They have been invaded from all directions over the centuries and are sensitive to threats on their borders. He has seen the EU in a disastrous attempt to expand into The Ukraine by the overthrow of an elected government. OK a poor & corrupt one but no different than the previous or the current one. That brought what to him seemed an enemy to the borders of Russia and one that could seize the Russian Black Sea fleet.
    He hasn’t invaded the Baltic nations nor Finland as they are no threat. He has allowed ever increasing supplies of russian gas to reach Europe which might increase Russia’s influence there but more importantly increases Russia’s trade income. No evidence that he wants to be an enemy of Europe, rather trying to safeguard Russian interests.
    He also has troubles with resurgent Islam in the East and SE. In a way he is Europe’s eastern bulwark against Islam and getting no credit from the soft headed political class in Europe.

  26. philjourdan says:

    while Russia always has crude looking tools that just work, and loads of grit.

    Reminds me of the story about the early space race. NASA spent millions of dollars developing a pen that would write in zero gravity and succeeded! Thus proving the ingenuity of the Americans.

    The Russians used a pencil.

  27. Larry Ledwick says:

    On the uncontrolled immigration front you have this item — europe may be in for a rough ride when the “natives” get restless and fed up with lack of effective action.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3685561/France-verge-civil-war-sparked-mass-sexual-assault-women-migrants-intelligence-chief-warns.html

  28. Steve C says:

    A fair account on UKIP Daily of both the ongoing events and the media coverage since we voted Out: Stitched Up! Me, I’m just waiting for one of the other Exit possibilities to land, which ought to really put the cat among the pigeons.

  29. Larry Ledwick says:

    http://counterjihad.com/sheer-horror-paris

    [ Reply: This link blocked the “back” function, so only open in a new tab. ]

  30. E.M.Smith says:

    @Steve C.:

    I expect to another 1 or 2 out of the EU before the slow walk BrExit completes…

    @Graeme No.3:

    I had a Russian class once (did poorly due to being slow to learn the orthography. .. and, I suspect, a lot of the class having spoken something slavic at home…) and did a dive into Russian History… It is fascinating. So my statements about Putin ought not be seen as pejorative. If anything, I admire what he has done. (For the effectiveness and precision, not the goals…) He is willing to do what it takes, in very hard spaces, and does just what works, stopping at the point where he gets the most for the least.

    I’d not want to play chess against him, but would enjoy a discussion of geopolitics over dinner… as long as I could bring my own…

  31. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry:

    Europe will either become part of the New Caliphate in 30 years, or have a literal “Come To Jesus” moment in under 10. (in between is unstable but no longer able to eliminate the muslim invasion).

    Putin knows this and is preparing to defend against an aggressive Nato, “rescue” a collapsing E.U., or repel the Islamist Hords… as events dictate. He is playing decadal “Go” and Europe is asking the muslim waiter to refill the wine glass like a good little boy…

  32. Oliver K. Manuel says:

    Anyone competent to fit ~3,000 atomic rest mass data points to least-squares plots on ~300 Bohr-Wheeler mass parabola, can help end seven decades of public deception disguised as “consensus science.”

    Neutron repulsion will be explained at 10:00 am on September 8, 2016 at the London GeoEthics Conference. A time is scheduled for questions or discussion immediately after the presentation.

    https://geoethicdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/london-prel-program-3b1.pdf

    Details are given here so anyone familiar with least-squares plots of Bohr Wheeler mass parabolas can confirm or deny neutron repulsion for themselves by comparing values of M/A at Z/A = 0 for A = 1 and A>3. Values of M/A for A>3 are always greater than the value of M/A = M(neutron) at A = 1:

    http://junkscience.com/2016/07/milloy-puts-lie-to-epa-air-quality-science-again/#comment-8317976315264062541

    I will also post this on tips.

  33. R. de Haan says:

    A friend of mine, a manufacturer of jumbo tanks or floating roof tanks in Venezuel packed his business in containers and shipped everything to Mexico. That was 10 years ago when government corruption and black outs made him desperate.

    From that time Venezuela followed the tilting scale into the stinking hole it is today.

    Watching the shameful performance of the DOJ GA Lynch meeting Clinton and the white washing of his wife on Sunday I think the seeds have been planted for a proces that sends the US in the abiss of corruption similar to Venezuela.

    Trump could be the one who picks up the broom for a thorough clean up and a brand new foreighn policy strategy with the Russians but also the UN, Agenda 21 and the IPCC

    From the Clintons we have nothing to expect.

    Hope it works out.

  34. E.M.Smith says:

    From the Clintons we can expect 8 years of extensive embedded corruption on a scale never before seen here with all aspects of our government for sale to the highest bidder. Saudis and China major owners of our laws and lands. They would then assure a fellow traveler got the next round win so as to continue to avoid prosecution.

    The actions of the AG and FBI were just outrageous.

  35. Larry Ledwick says:

    Another example a Super PAC which apparently only raises money and pays salaries but does not bother spending any money on candidates. Nice deal if you can get people to just send you money and not have to really do anything for it. Well other than milking the pockets of the gullible.

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-super-pac-spends-millions-firms-salaries-nothing-candidates/

  36. Larry Ledwick says:

    Putting this here rather than the open thread since it will be more easily found under this topic heading. As noted in several threads I have been concerned and cautious about Trump and lots of suspicious connections he appears to have to Russia and Russian businessmen( possibly Russian organized crime/old KGB etc.)

    With today’s statement by a former director of the CIA, Michael J. Morell, this appears to have finally risen to the top in the political media and may finally be getting some exposure.

    http://observer.com/2016/08/yes-american-spies-really-think-trump-is-putins-guy/
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/opinion/campaign-stops/i-ran-the-cia-now-im-endorsing-hillary-clinton.html
    In fairness Morell also clearly has ties to Clinton and she also clearly has connection to Russia. Perhaps both candidates are unwitting dupes/puppets of Russian manipulation, or just skating on thin ice of a corrupt political system that they can use/abuse for their own ends.

    In either case it is worrisome that it is possible that both primary party Presidential candidates appear to have some unsavory connections to one or more foreign governments (HRC also is tied to big Oil money from Saudi Arabia etc).

    Frankly I have no clue which accusation and which relationship is just superficial or perhaps evidence of deep connections and possible manipulation. I do know that the Russians have turned sophisticated political manipulation into an art form over the last 100+ years and are probably better at it than any other government intelligence service in the world. That alone makes this even more troublesome and difficult to untangle because they are well versed in steering individuals to their advantage while their target is unaware of any outside manipulation, and in some cases deeply believes they are independent actors and in some cases would be appalled at the idea of aiding Russia.

    Too early to tell on this one but today’s news raises my neck tickle suspicion a notch or two and gives me pause. Given Bernie Sanders clearly stated political leanings it is conceivable that all three of the major players in this Presidential race were witting or unwitting actors being played by a foreign intelligence service.

    Look for the shoes behind the curtains folks all may not be what is seems to be.

  37. Larry Ledwick says:

    Just a reminder of earlier deep connections between US politicians and those who clearly were very friendly with Russia.

    https://20committee.com/2014/11/03/is-a-top-american-diplomat-a-russian-agent/

  38. Oliver K. Manuel says:

    Larry, Western democracies were betrayed by their own scientists after WWII, when the western nations and national academies of sciences were united to try “to save the world” from nuclear annihilation by hiding the source of energy F.W. Aston said offered humanity powers beyond the dreams of scientific fiction in the last paragraph of his 1922 Nobel Lecture.

    After Chadwick discovered the neutron in 1932, it became obvious and warring nations used NEUTRON REPULSION to build atomic bombs.

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2016/08/05/omg-what-an-epic-rant/#comment-70566

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