Hillary, B-12 “as needed”, and booze

There was just released a letter from Hillary Clinton’s doctor that basically said ~”little bit of pneumonia and some drugs”… Leaving aside the question of just what IS a non-contagious bacterial pneumonia (and how one gets it without it being contagious) the thing that caught my attention was a little item that sure looks innocuous. A vitamin. B-12

I happen to be familiar with this one since it only comes from animal food products in the typical diet (and ultimately only from bacteria, often in the gut of animals) and with several family and friends who are Vegan and / or Vegetarian, well, it’s an issue they must watch. Last time I looked Hillary was not known to be a Vegan… Perhaps I missed it, though…

Now if you look up Vit B-12, it has several interesting properties. Two of them pertain to madam Hillary. First, it helps to slow or prevent brain shrinkage and decay. Having had some brain damage (enough that she can’t seem to remember anything from prior to the concussion and brain clot…) it could be related to that. The other is a little thing I learned working in the Hospital…

Hillary’s medical report said B-12 “as needed”. That’s pretty vague and tends to indicate a recurrent but irregular issue.


High vitamin B12 level in elderly individuals may protect against brain atrophy or shrinkage associated with Alzheimer’s disease and impaired cognitive function.

So maybe it’s being given to help “protect against brain atrophy or shrinkage” or maybe for “impaired cognitive function”.

Then again, maybe she is having chronic / episodic deficiency in her B-12 status for other reasons. One in particular:


Now most causes of B-12 deficiency (other than Vegan diet without care) tend to be dramatic metabolic issues, like not absorbing it causing pernicious anemia. That ought to have been seen some time ago, and also ought not be ‘as needed’ but persistent.

What “bad things” happen with B-12 deficiency? Bold mine:

Signs and symptoms

Vitamin B12 deficiency can lead to vitamin B12 deficiency anemia and neurologic dysfunction. A mild deficiency may not cause any discernible symptoms, but as the deficiency becomes more significant symptoms of anemia may result, such as weakness, fatigue, light-headedness, rapid heartbeat, rapid breathing and pale color to the skin. It may also cause easy bruising or bleeding, including bleeding gums. GI side effects including sore tongue, stomach upset, weight loss, and diarrhea or constipation. If the deficiency is not corrected, nerve cell damage can result. If this happens, vitamin B12 deficiency may result in tingling or numbness to the fingers and toes, difficulty walking, mood changes, depression, memory loss, disorientation and, in severe cases, dementia.

The main syndrome of vitamin B12 deficiency is pernicious anemia. It is characterized by a triad of symptoms:

Anemia with bone marrow promegaloblastosis (megaloblastic anemia). This is due to the inhibition of DNA synthesis (specifically purines and thymidine)
Gastrointestinal symptoms: alteration in bowel motility, such as mild diarrhea or constipation, and loss of bladder or bowel control.[9] These are thought to be due to defective DNA synthesis inhibiting replication in a site with a high turnover of cells. This may also be due to the autoimmune attack on the parietal cells of the stomach in pernicious anemia. There is an association with GAVE syndrome (commonly called watermelon stomach) and pernicious anemia.[10]
Neurological symptoms: Sensory or motor deficiencies (absent reflexes, diminished vibration or soft touch sensation), subacute combined degeneration of spinal cord, seizures, or even symptoms of dementia and or other psychiatric symptoms may be present. The presence of peripheral sensory-motor symptoms or subacute combined degeneration of spinal cord strongly suggests the presence of a B12 deficiency instead of folate deficiency. Methylmalonic acid, if not properly handled by B12, remains in the myelin sheath, causing fragility. Dementia and depression have been associated with this deficiency as well, possibly from the under-production of methionine because of the inability to convert homocysteine into this product. Methionine is a necessary cofactor in the production of several neurotransmitters.

Each of those symptoms can occur either alone or along with others. The neurological complex, defined as myelosis funicularis, consists of the following symptoms:

Impaired perception of deep touch, pressure and vibration, loss of sense of touch, very annoying and persistent paresthesias
Ataxia of dorsal chord type
Decrease or loss of deep muscle-tendon reflexes
Pathological reflexes — Babinski, Rossolimo and others, also severe paresis

Vitamin B12 deficiency can cause severe and irreversible damage, especially to the brain and nervous system. These symptoms of neuronal damage may not reverse after correction of hematological abnormalities, and the chance of complete reversal decreases with the length of time the neurological symptoms have been present.

Not good things in a President. Things evident in Hillary at various times…

The one I notice of interest under ’causes’ was:

Malnutrition of alcoholism.

Now note that there is anecdotal evidence from people around her that Hillary drinks like a fish…

Personal Story

While working in the hospital, one Friday a Doctor and Nurse were going out on the town. They were to be back at work in a fairly short time and didn’t want to be drunk when they did. The solution? Dear Doctor gave them both a big shot of B-12. It helps to prevent getting drunk, he said. I remembered that.

So in my “drink someone under the table” kit, I have B-12 pills.
I’ve used it and it worked. You still can get drunk, but it leaves much faster.

IF you didn’t prep that way, a fat B-12 in the “morning after” kit works wonders.
I’ve “tested” that too, and it works.


Madam Hillary has several symptoms that some folks have speculated indicate Parkinson’s. IMHO, they also conform to alcoholism and B-12 deficiency. Tremor of the hands (and coping behaviour to hide it) is also know as “The DTs”. Stumble, trip, fall, pass out, well, not much need be said about those. “Fast” recovery? Perhaps a nice push of a bolus of B-12 along with an alcohol antagonist?

That exercise can be run right down the list of her history and symptoms.

Now season with a known neurological defect (that 6 months of ‘recovery’ from her brain thrombosis and apparently massive memory loss) and you have one heck of a mess. Alcohol usually interacts badly with neurological defects, too. It also is the case that high alcohol intake leads to dramatic dehydration, a known issue for Hillary.

So I’d speculate that the simplest explanation that accounts for all the known facts is this scenario:

Back in the early 2000s, late 1990s, Hillary was on one bender too many, went into significant B-12 deficiency, and started falling. We have the broken arm, then the concussion, then the brain clot, spread over several years. By the time this is over, we have an issue of neurological damage and poor status. So she takes 6 months of rehabilitation and is “good enough”. Perhaps with some minor seizure issues from the hemorrhage damage. Under stress, she ‘twigs out’ a bit (the balloon drop and similar events) and starts to ‘self medicate’ again with a bit of vodka in the water glass.

Then we get the return of the DTs some times, the stumble and fall, and finally the “too hot” passing out as she is stuffed into the van… After a quick saline and B-12 push along with some alcohol antagonist, Presto! Fine again…

Until the next episode.

Yes, all rampant speculation. But based on “just the facts” and requires no outside evidence not already observed. It is also economical in complexity (Occam is my friend ;-) and fits the known history and personality of the Clinton’s.

So that’s my Thesis Du Jour. While it could just as easily be the result of a brain clot and seizures, that doesn’t explain the B-12 “as needed”. Needed implies a real medical need. “As” implies it is sporadic and environmental driven. That tips me toward the “had too much again” diagnosis…


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44 Responses to Hillary, B-12 “as needed”, and booze

  1. H.R. says:

    Re: alcoholism…
    …thus my persistent question (which will be on my t-shirt!) What is in the ‘water’ glass?

    I’ve been digging for a couple of days on that and the results I’ve found indicate vodka or gin or… water. There have been observations that she coughed up green or yellow blobs into the glass of water, the glass of water being an innocuous spittoon. It would be a little awkward to use a water bottle as a spittoon. However, the fact that she drank from the glass with the ‘loogies’ in it leads me to opine that it was alcohol and she needed a bracer badly enough that she took a swig anyhow. There have been other sightings of Hillary getting a special glass of water without hocking up anything into it. So I favor a clear liquor. But that’s just speculation on what’s in that special glass of water.

    I’m still going to keep an eye on the topic to see if I can find the truth of the matter.

  2. H.R. says:

    What’s in the ‘water’ glass?
    OK. “Thickened” water has shown up. It’s used to keep people with swallowing difficulties from aspirating liquids.

    Also ran across an article which pointed out that Hillary always has a stool and a glass of water nearby at her appearances (photos with glass of clear liquid on stool at several events).

    No links worth sharing. Nothing I’ve run across seems solid. It’s all speculation so far. No one knows except her aides, and they’re not talking. Hmmmmm….

    Next search: Who has seem a Hillary aide filling the ‘water’ glass?

  3. John F. Hultquist says:

    A friend fell from a mountain-bike, hit his head, ripped an ear, and had a concussion. All seemed well for 6 or 7 years. Then a stressful period came and his brain began doing weird stuff. He would black out and 1 to 2 hours later wake. A couple of times this almost got him killed. His speech began to change – obvious words were dropped. For example, where I might say “I am happy to see you.” – he would say: “I happy see you.” He now can sense if he is about to black out, and then can sit or lie down. His common sense rules, so he does not do things that might bring danger to him or others. He would refuse to serve if someone tried to appoint him to a position, nor would he run for office. This is all very sad because he is a great guy.

    I suspect that Madam Hillary has wanted to be president for so long her brain is damaged from repeated failures of steps toward that goal. Just a couple: Hillary Care – fail; who would be best to get a call as president in the middle of the night? – fail (2012 Benghazi attack); Obama kept her out of office, twice; Bernie Sanders ruined the 2016 anointing; Trump (not a regular politician / plays by rules she doesn’t understand) befuddles her. There are more.

    The medical story you have written is interesting – likely we will never know.

  4. E.M.Smith says:

    We can now list some essential facts. We know of the 2009 and 2012 falls, broken arm, concussion, and brain hemorrhage. We know that ‘good enough’ recovery took 6 months. We know from Bill that she falls or blanks either “often” or “not-often but rarely” though somehow regularly enough for him to comment on it. We also know that at times she ‘twigs out’ (videos).

    That, alone, is enough to say she clearly has some kind of coordination / falling disorder that has lead to some degree of brain damage (can’t remember her time at State or training…)

    For me, that alone is sufficient to flag her as unfit tor leading armies into battle, being the person to decide ( in under 5 minutes and in extreme distress ) if the nuclear go code ought to be issued.

    Now add in her seeming history of difficulty with “good decision making”. From the waffle on sending rescue to Benghazi where she had folks doing cloths changes something like 4? times, to getting it way wrong on the Russian Reset and then the various other not-quite-right decisions and poor policy outcomes. It starts to look like there’s a lot of ambition and a lot of emotion, but not much execution. Fuzzy decision making is often a consequence of concussion and brain bleeds.

    Then we get to the “often gone” Hillary. She seems good for about 2 hours, max, in public view especially when standing or when in a noisy / chaotic / bright or flashing lights context. When on stage, she has a chair or stool When not on them, she is clutching a desk, railing, someone’s arm, etc. etc. She just doesn’t do much “free standing” and at most you get a ‘walk on’ from the side curtains to the stool. There just isn’t much evidence for the motor skills and stamina to be upright and active for more than a couple of hours. Now season that with the repeated falls (including those with no injury – green? pantsuit into the airplane entry, the ‘wobbly gone Hillary’ shoved limp into the van, and a couple of other videos of stumble and catch. It sure looks like she can be pumped up for a couple of hours then the drugs were off, and even this is very unsteady in motion.

    There isn’t a lot of speculation in that, and a whole lot of simple observation.

    I’d conclude that at a minimum she has some kind of compromise of brain function (could be as simple as balance issues or as complex as Parkinson’s – but this article already documented my belief in the simplest / most right: Alcoholism induced injury leading to falls and subsequent injury, with resultant micro-seizures. The prescription for B-12 (note that it would not be in the medical record released if it was just ‘take some B-12 OTC’) likely is for shots, IMHO. That’s serious strength that I’ve only seen used for folks with chronic absorption issues or who’ve had too much to drink. She has no history of pernicious anemia in evidence…

    Now if that litany is The Best we have available for President, well, OK… but if there is anyone without those issues, I’d take them first.

    Frankly, from what I’ve seen watching many videos closely, she’s one sick puppy and needs significant medical care, NOT by a Doctor taking her orders but from one that has her checked in under observation… and away from ‘aides’ filling glasses from bottles…

    Oh, and a side note: When she had the coughing fit on the plane talking to the press, I remember she asked for water. Some was put in her hand in a bottle. She didn’t drink it, but exchanged it for a different ‘water’ provided by one of her aides… in a glass… about 7:40

    So why exchange one water for a different one when you are desperate? Eh?

  5. Gail Combs says:

    Alcoholic does not mean she does not have Parkinson’s also.

    And yes, this woman is one very sick puppy and always has been.

    On May 10th, 1975, two men lured a 12-year-old girl into their car. This 12-year-old girl was beaten so badly, and raped so violently, she was in a coma for 5 days. Her injuries were so severe, she would never be able to have children.

    41-year-old Thomas Alfred Taylor was charged with the rape. The evidence was damning. His underwear had his semen mixed with the victim’s blood.

    Taylor’s lawyer pulled every dirty trick in the book, attacking the victim with accusations that at just 12 years old, “she wanted an older man”, and “fantasized about being raped”.

    Mr. Taylor’s lawyer went so far as to suppress the damning physical, oral, and written evidence against Mr. Taylor, including evidence that the 12-year-old victim was a virgin before she was raped.
    Because of the tactics used by Taylor’s defense attorney, a violent child molester and rapist got off with 2 months time served.

    After being beaten & raped by Mr. Taylor, and being humiliated & dishonored by his lawyer, it took over 20 years for her to come to terms with what happened to her on May 10th, 1975.
    Recently, she saw the same lawyer on TV, and didn’t like what she heard. She has a message she wants to deliver to that lawyer: “You lied about me”.
    So who is this lawyer?
    Hillary Rodham Clinton.


    Taylor was charged with first-degree rape, which carried a sentence of 30 years to life in prison. 
    The rape/assault left this 12 year old girl with severe internal and external injuries and she was knocked into a coma for five days. Later she required stitches in her genital area. She could never have children as a result of the damage.

    Clinton accused this 12 year old girl of ‘seeking out older men’ and demanded that she undergo a grueling court-ordered psychiatric examination.

    Clinton  pleaded Taylor down to ‘unlawful fondling of a minor’ and time served, two months, after Clinton was able to block the admission of forensic evidence that linked her client to the crime. — The analysis of blood and semen on his underwear. Clinton wrote in her biography that she successfully ‘cast doubt on the evidentiary value of semen and blood samples the prosecutor claimed proved the defendant’s guilt in the rape’.

    Hillary Clinton VOLUNTEERED to be Taylor’s defense attorney. (She later lies about this.)

    Hillary Clinton Laughs While Discussing Defense of Child Rapist

    THIS is the Hillary Clinton who portrays herself as a lifelong advocate of women and girls on the campaign trail.

  6. Gail Combs says:

    Brain Freeze —> wooden body.
    This does not sound like an alcoholic problem it sounds like a neurological malady. She is wooden not limp. Also, while the NYPD cops were alarmed, her SS and support aides were ho-hum and acted as a well drilled team who had BTDT before. This is not a sudden one off occurrence but reoccurring.

    This has videos including the most recent 9/11 with explanation of what you are seeing by Dr Noel. The blue lens sun glasses are a dead giveaway to a major neurological problem like Parkinson’s. Of interest is the clip he shows of the Parkinson’s patient with and without the blue lens. The change is dramatic. The original Utube has also been hastily removed from the internet… {:>D Another tell perhaps?


    This is a written description of various episodes with a lot more information than in the videos..

    A second Doctor also says it looks like it might be Parkinson’s

    Pharmaceutical executive Martin Shkreli, who helped develop a drug to treat some symptoms of the disease, also thinks it might be Parkinson’s.

    Of interest is one commenter:

    clark September 14, 2016

    For what it’s worth.
    My daughter is an MD plus she has a PHD in neuro science and she taught neuro science to MD students at a big 10 university. She has watched some videos on you tube that other doctors have posted concerning the diagnosis Hillary’s Parkinson’s. She said that she thinks the evaluations are spot on. I’m no doctor but she is and she has a PHD in the area of medicine that would cover Parkinson’s plus only about 5% of all doctors have a PHD in addition to being an MD.

    Because of the threat of retaliation from Obummer and Hitlery, most doctors will be keeping their mouths shut on this issue.

  7. Gail Combs says:

    It looks like the story is getting legs…

    Hillary Clinton has stage-three Parkinson’s disease and suffers from seizures, according to three sources who have had a personal relationship with the Democratic Party presidential nominee.

    The sources, who spoke to WND on condition of anonymity….

    WND also reported Monday that high-level Democrat power brokers on Wall Street and in New York City law firms and unions speaking to WND on condition their names be withheld say Clinton’s health problems are causing panic among top party operatives and donors.

    The top Democratic Party politicos in New York City have decided they can no longer rely on a two-page report of good health put out by the campaign, insisting it’s time to replace Clinton’s current medical team with A-list professionals, which are readily available in New York City.

    If top medical experts conclude it’s likely Clinton will suffer another fainting spell, regardless of the treatment she is given, the mood among New York Democrats is that now is the time to find a replacement.

    At least eight Democrats or establishment media figures, some citing multiple party members, have raised the specter of replacing Clinton or questioned the campaign’s handling of her health issues, including a former Democratic National Committee chairman.


    Hitlery’s real polling numbers must stink for the DNC to be floating this. Hitlery is NOT going to like this talk.

    This election cycle is really entertaining.



  8. philjourdan says:

    Regardless of her affliction, this past weekend was devastating for her. As the stories grow – and old stories get new legs. Gail’s links and comments are the old stories gaining traction. This article provides an alternative hypothesis equally as damning. While I rarely drink now (just when I go on vacation to my BIL house and then mostly beer), I will remember that B12 stuff. Of course it would have been a lot more helpful in college during the weekly keg parties. ;-)

  9. Gail Combs says:

    I think it was the Democrats who pushed early voting. If so they may have shot themselves in the foot.

    If I did the calculation correctly there are 54 days until election.

    Here are the days before election for early voting from states starting a month or more before election day.


    California: Early voting start times vary by county. In general, early voting starts 30 days before Election Day.

    Indiana: Early voting starts 29 days before Election Day.

    Maine: Early voting starts as soon as ballots are available (usually 30-45 days before Election Day)

    Minnesota: Early voting starts 46 days before Election Day.

    Montana: Early voting starts as soon as the official ballot becomes available, usually 30 days before Election Day.

    Nebraska: Early voting starts 35 days before Election Day (15 days before special elections)

    New York: If you can’t vote in person on Election Day, you can vote absentee in-person as soon as ballots are available (at least 32 days before Election Day).

    Ohio: Early voting starts 35 days before Election Day

    Vermont: Early voting starts 45 days before a primary or general election – 20 days before a municipal election

    Virginia: If you can’t vote in person on Election Day, you can vote “absentee in-person” starting as soon as ballots are available – usually between 45 days before Election Day. You can apply for and vote your absentee ballot during the same visit to your Local Election Official.

    That leaves the democrats less than two weeks, more like a week, to replace Hillary or they really muck up the works leaving Trump the ability to take them to court.

    Ballotpedia — The Encyclopedia of American Politics
    Deadlines for parties to certify their candidates for the general election

    If a nominee dropped out of the race and was replaced by his or her party, what kind of ballot access obstacles might they face?

    States require political parties to submit names of presidential candidates in order to certify them for the general election ballot. Every state has some sort of official or unofficial deadline for this (see the table below). Some states have earlier deadlines than others because of early voting and voting by mail and absentee voting. As of February 2016, 34 states offered early voting in some form or another, and several states allow voting as early as late September.[2] Three states (Colorado, Oregon and Washington) use all-mail voting systems, thereby eliminating the need for early voting.
    August/early September
    The bulk of the dates for certifying the names of major party presidential candidates are in August and September. Mid August was the point at which either party could have found a replacement nominee and still have been able to get his or her name on the ballot in enough states to be competitive in November without having to navigate the courts and ballot access issues. For example, if a nominee had dropped out in late August, his or her name would already have been certified to appear as their party’s candidate for president in about 20 states. If he or she dropped out in late September, that number rises to almost 40 states.

    Late September
    Replacing a candidate’s name in late September could prove challenging. The parties would likely have to look to the courts. As Politico noted on August 4, 2016, the courts have shown a willingness to work with the parties on the issue of deadlines: “Courts have tended to discard ballot deadlines in favor of having two parties represented on the ballot.”[3] In 2002, for instance, the New Jersey Supreme Court allowed Democrats to replace their nominee for a U.S. Senate seat 15 days after the certification deadline.[4] In addition to this, election officials in the states have been known to show some leeway on the deadlines. Richard Winger, an expert on ballot access laws, told Ballotpedia by email, “even when major parties have missed deadlines for certifying presidential and vice-presidential nominees, or presidential elector candidates, election officials have always set the deadline aside.”[5]

    The other factor to consider, however, is whether or not the opposing party would file lawsuits seeking to enforce state laws as they are written and prevent a replacement nominee from appearing on the ballot. This would consume a considerable amount time, energy, and resource for both parties but would likely exacerbate the struggles of the party trying to get its replacement nominee on the ballot
    October/early November

    In October, especially later in the month, and in early November (before November 8) the situation becomes significantly more complicated. At this point, nearly all ballot certification deadlines have passed, many ballots have been printed off, and voters in some states will have already cast their ballots. This begs the question: what happens if a candidate has dropped out of the race but wins the popular vote in a state? Would the replacement nominee just receive those electoral votes? The answer lies in what that state has to say about its electors in the electoral college. The Constitution does not dictate how electors must cast their votes. But some states do. More than half the states have laws dictating how electors must vote. If the former nominee won in a state that does not have a law on how its electors vote, then, theoretically, they could win all of that state’s electoral votes. But if the former nominee won in a state that does have a law on how its electors vote, then, one would have to look at that law’s fine print to see what would happen and if the state’s electoral votes could go to the replacement nominee….

    So it looks like Hillary has managed to pretty much run out the clock esp with the pneumonia excuse to give her several days grace. If she can stay drugged up and keep from having another episode the DNC will have some major problems yanking her. Of course a sudden death from complications of pneumonia would be very convenient right about now….

  10. H.R. says:

    Gail Combs says: 15 September 2016 at 10:03 am

    Alcoholic does not mean she does not have Parkinson’s also.

    I think we’ll soon find out what’s in the ‘water’ glass. Based on your 11:00am post indicating she might be given the heave-ho by the DNC.

    My wife had a stroke in 2008. She was in the hospital for a week and in a stroke rehab wing of the hospital for a month. She reminded me that she was given thickened liquids up until her last week in stroke rehab. She was really glad to get ‘real’ coffee the last week of her stay. Anyhow, it’s SOP to give thickened liquids to prevent aspiration when there are swallowing difficulties.

    I have noticed in the videos that she drinks from tall water glasses and short water glasses. Now my speculation is running to: tall glass = thickened water; short glass = clear liquor bracer. There are a lot more videos of her with the tall glass than a short glass. But anyhow, it might be the same thing in the short or tall glass.

    I’ll keep digging, but I think that her ‘special water’ will likely be reluctantly given up by her team as “Yes, it’s thickened water. So what?” unless it’s thickened vodka ;o)

  11. Gail Combs says:

    The coughing is NOT an allergy/asthma cough.
    The coughing is NOT a pneumonia cough.
    The coughing is a something when down the wrong way cough.

    I have had all three and rate them
    1. Allergy — annoying but no biggie. Antihistamines and cough drops work well.
    2. Pneumonia cough — worse but most likely in the morning or at night when lying down.
    3. Aspiration cough — You feel like you are coughing up your toenails and sound like it. It will go on and on until the foreign matter gets dislodged.

    No matter what her other problems, the thickened water goes along with the throat scar/ thyroid problems/cough.

  12. Svend Ferdinandsen says:

    Anyway she could have some B-12 deficiency without any reason. I have some in the family that needs shots with B-12 because they do not produce or uptake enough.

  13. Another Ian says:

    “If there’s a Clinton involved — parse.”


  14. Another Ian says:


    “Oddly enough, about the same number “trust” Hillary ”


  15. M Simon says:

    Alcoholism is a sign of serious PTSD. After the unpleasantness of 1860 to ’65 it was called “the soldiers disease” in the US.

    We now have better medicine for that than alcohol. But politicians are generally restrained from using it. Which would make Hillary a victim of the policies of her own government. Fitting.

    There once was a politician with a similar problem who used opiates. Some government operatives who wanted him to continue his political ways saw that he got a prescription. You can’t get a prescription for schedule one drugs.

  16. gallopingcamel says:

    Finally there is something to like about Hillary assuming you are right about her love of Vodka.

  17. gallopingcamel says:

    Even the fawning “Main Stream Media” is not buying “non-contagious bacterial pneumonia”.

    Hillary’s doctor had to invent this disease because there was a picture of Hillary hugging a small girl while she was infected.

  18. p.g.sharrow says:

    M Simon; When given the opportunity, every creature that I know of will self medicate to suit their needs/wants. Alcohol and tobacco are acceptable in most places so they become the habit of choice in the military. While cannabis is more benign it’s use can cost you your civil liberties.
    Governments seem to always strive to control these things to line the pockets of the chosen few and control the many..

    PTSD is a catch all that is used to explain the coping problem people have when placed under stress that they can not escape from and must endure. Many suffer from the results of such stress. The Military and war conditions are just one of the most sever causes, You are trapped in the situation by both the hierarchy and the enemy for as long as it lasts, every action is live or disaster. It takes the fun out of life while you are still young. Leaves a hollow spot that needs filling or covering over…pg

  19. Chiefio you have got me thinking about B12 -just ordered some which should keep me going for at least three months as a trial. It seems you are being ripped off in USA. Here in Oz a bottle of 90x 1000mg tabs cost the equivalent of $US 8.60. Maybe you can order them online – search for Australian Natural Care. The only thing I take is Magnesium which really works to stop cramps but I believe has some other benefits. Parts of Oz have a problem with Thyroids due to a lack of iodine (particularly in Tasmania) so you can buy iodised salt (we do because my wife comes from Tas) and in some states iodine is added to bread. I believe selenium supplements also help with thyroid problems.

  20. Larry Ledwick says:

    I take is Magnesium which really works to stop cramps but I believe has some other benefits.

    Yes one of the supplements I take, it gets washed out of the system by high caffeine intake and is also essential for carbohydrate metabolism. With my cola consumption that is an issue. I find that when I catch my self getting cramps or getting a short fuse (ie getting cranky over little things) a couple tabs of magnesium quickly mellows me out.


  21. cdquarles says:

    Of all of the water soluble B vitamins, B12 is the only one that is very large (MW about 300, from memory, cyanocobalamin & it contains cyanide!) and requires active absorption using a protein carrier. [I have ulcerative colitis and am now one who needs B12 because 1. older people make less intrinsic factor and 2. the gut problems, which when active flush it out before it can be absorbed, so pills don’t work.] It is also the vitamin with the smallest daily dietary requirement. Once in your body, you basically don’t lose it via the kidneys or liver or both, unlike the other B vitamins.

    Overdosing with magnesium will give you cramps, intestinal cramps and diarrhea. Magnesium citrate is available as a laxative. Small amounts of magnesium chloride are fine but may interfere with calcium absorption.

  22. cdquarles says:

    @ philjourdan, if you really must get wasted (why do people want to get intoxicated? /rhetorical), take pharmaceutical doses of *all* of the B vitamins, as they are all involved in handling metabolism, whether of DNA/RNA or other vital chemicals.

  23. cdquarles says:

    Hmm, aspiration pneumonia isn’t normally considered contagious, for that is the result of a person’s own commensal bacteria overcoming the local immune system and overgrowing enough to prolong the effects of stomach acid (0.1N HCl), food, or other large enough objects to block airways.

  24. Gail Combs says:

    LMAO, I just saw this. Made just for the lamestream media

  25. Jeff says:

    Looks like Hildebeast may be needing more than just B12 (and the other B-Complex). She seems to have ignited a veritable bee’s nest of comments and artwork, and just a while ago, Donald Trump opened a rally with the Les Deplorables artwork from keln on ConservativeTreeHouse and music from Les Mis playing in the background. This story seems to have barricades to go with the legs. She seems to have laid an egg that may well end up frying her…


    And even the Daily Fail has seen it:


    Wow. What a day (and week).

  26. Larry Ledwick says:

    They might have lit a fuze that starts a much bigger fire than they expected.
    The use of “Do You Hear the People Sing?” as his walk on could be a key point of coalescence as it gives people all over the “cold angry” spectrum a focus.

    It would be Ironic if a production about France’s struggle to be free was the pivot point for America to reclaim her Republic. Hopefully it will not go the route of the French Revolution but TPTB obviously don’t understand that they are walking on very thin ice.

    or the movie version

    Do you hear the people sing?
    Singing the song of angry men?
    It is the music of the people
    Who will not be slaves again!
    When the beating of your heart
    Echoes the beating of the drums
    There is a life about to start
    When tomorrow comes.

    Will you join in our crusade?
    Who will be strong and stand with me?
    Beyond the barricade
    Is there a world you long to see?

    Then join in the fight
    That will give you the right to be free!

    Do you hear the people sing?
    Singing the song of angry men
    It is the music of the people
    Who will not be slaves again!
    When the beating of your heart
    Echoes the beating of the drums
    There is a life about to start
    When tomorrow comes!

    Will you give all you can give
    So that our banner may advance
    Some will fall and some will live
    Will you stand up and take your chance?
    The blood of the martyrs
    Will water the meadows of France!

    Do you hear the people sing!
    Singing the song of angry men?
    It is the music of the people
    Who will not be slaves again!
    When the beating of your heart
    Echoes the beating of the drums
    There is a life about to start
    When tomorrow comes!

  27. Gail Combs says:

    It seems someone in Trump’s campaign is paying attention to the ConservativeTreeHouse. (We have thought so for a while.) Keln just made that poster and put it up at the TreeHouse a few days ago.

    We know Rush Limpaw reads it since he has been caught plagarizing Sundance almost word for word recently.

    Sundance has been using the phrase ‘Cold Anger’ for at least the last year to describe the mood of ordinary Americans who are awake, patriots and angry at the deliberate destruction of our country. Keln’s poster is the natural extenion of that.

  28. Jeff says:

    And here’s a flash mob (a nice one) to go with it (from a few years back):

    I saw the links about Les Deplorables on BB, so maybe there’s some connection there. @Gail, the Conservative Tree House is amazing, and was going absolutely crazy last night (as I imagine Hildebeast & co. were as well).

    Sadly, all the (controlled-by-Soros) media here in Germany can do is take a phrase by Trump and say that he wants to inflict violence on Clinton again….. here we call the presstitutes the Lügenpresse (lying press). Funniest thing is, the comments are almost always exactly the opposite of the (far) left-leaning articles.

  29. Gail Combs says:

    I really love this poster. It sums it up SOOooo Well

    It is really something when the entire MSM and DNC is schlonged by a DEPLORABLE frog…

    On the muscle cramps. Esp. legs and feet. It is often a Na vs K imbalance.
    See: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2016/08/26/life-k-from-a-nice-volcanic-mud-puddle/

    Since I moved south and now spend a lot of time outside, I have had problems with cramps and ‘sun stroke’ The entire problem went away when I quit drinking soda (I drink H2O or unsweetened green tea instead) and started drinking Atkins Shakes whenever I started feeling dizzy/shaky/ had leg/foot cramps. It even worked on the flashing lights you see before a migraine. For the dizzy.shaky feeling it works in 10 minutes for the flashing lights in less than a 1/2 hour. The leg cramps take quite a bit longer.

    I now have Hubby drinking the stuff when he works hard.

    For the freezable fried rice (great idea guys, thanks) Kikkoman and La Choy have soy sauce with less than half sodium of the original. So using the Na/K ratio Atkin’s uses I dump ~80 grams of KCl (molar mass is about the same for both atoms) into a 15 oz bottle of Kikkoman less Sodium Soy Sauce and then use sparingly in my fried rice.

    Mayo Clinic


    Most muscle cramps develop in the leg muscles, particularly in the calf. Besides the sudden, sharp pain, you might also feel or see a hard lump of muscle tissue beneath your skin….


    Mineral depletion. Too little potassium, calcium or magnesium in your diet can contribute to leg cramps. Diuretics — medications often prescribed for high blood pressure — also can deplete these minerals.

    Elson M. Haas, M.D.

    Potassium is a very significant body mineral, important to both cellular and electrical function. It is one of the main blood minerals called “electrolytes” (the others are sodium and chloride), which means it carries a tiny electrical charge (potential). Potassium is the primary positive ion (cation) found within the cells, where 98 percent of the 120 grams of potassium contained in the body is found. The blood serum contains about 4-5 mg. (per 100 ml.) of the total potassium; the red blood cells contain 420 mg., which is why a red-blood-cell level is a better indication of an individual’s potassium status than the commonly used serum level.

    Magnesium helps maintain the potassium in the cells, but the sodium and potassium balance is as finely tuned as those of calcium and phosphorus or calcium and magnesium. Research has found that a high-sodium diet with low potassium intake influences vascular volume and tends to elevate the blood pressure…..

    Potassium is well absorbed from the small intestine, with about 90 percent absorption, but is one of the most soluble minerals, so it is easily lost in cooking and processing foods. Most excess potassium is eliminated in the urine; some is eliminated in the sweat… The kidneys are the chief regulators of our body potassium, keeping the blood levels steady even with wide variation in intake. The adrenal hormone aldosterone stimulates elimination of potassium by the kidneys. Alcohol, coffee (and caffeine drinks), sugar, and diuretic drugs, however, cause potassium losses and can contribute to lowering the blood potassium. This mineral is also lost with vomiting and diarrhea…..

    Even with high intakes of potassium, the kidneys will clear any excess, and blood levels will not be increased. For elevated potassium levels, called hyperkalemia, to occur, there must usually be other factors involved…..

    (There is a lot more info in the article)

  30. E.M.Smith says:

    FWIW, there is a commercial Salt Light that is 1/2 each NaCl KCl.
    I Just keep a KCl shaker near the regular one and put some of each on foods, as my preference directs.
    Really like the low Na + KCl Soysauce idea… nice.

    Also remember my post on Mg… a nice Epsom salt bath … it absorbes through the skin… and most folks are deficient…

  31. Gail Combs says:

    I am to the point I just use a KCl shaker. There is so much NaCl in food today you do not need NaCl especially as you get older. Unfortunately that means Americans are getting low in iodine if they do not eat fish, seaweed, or take a complete supplement.


    BTW, for those of us who like something crunchy but should stay away from salted snacks, I make crispy kale but use KCl, garlic and pepper instead of salt.


    (I shake, pat dry and then use the hairdryer to dry before oil and bake.) H/T to Patty

  32. philjourdan says:

    @CD – You do not have to get “wasted” to get a hangover (in some cases you do not even need to imbibe). You only have to forget rule #1 – hydration.

  33. cdquarles says:

    @philjourdan, I wasn’t talking about hangovers. I was talking about self-medication to the point of intoxication. Hangovers and other aftereffects may or may not occur.

  34. philjourdan says:

    Not being a drug user, I took your “wasted” as being drunk. While I rarely get drunk, I have had hangovers after drinking a few beverages. And that is because I forgot rule #1. It is nice to know that B12 (as explained) can mitigate the hangover when forgotten.

  35. cdquarles says:

    Phil, I consider drinking alcohol just to drink alcohol with getting intoxicated being the goal as not being anything different from getting ‘high’ or ‘drunk’ or ‘wasted’; for that says intoxicated to me.

  36. philjourdan says:

    As I said, not being familiar with the drug versions, I will take your word for it. However, not every episode of drinking has a goal of getting intoxicated. As I said, I have had a few drinks in the past and wound up with a hangover (albeit mild), without getting intoxicated.

  37. cdquarles says:

    Phil, since we are talking about the physiological effects that are the result of pharmaceutical intake of chemicals, there isn’t any difference. Not all who take ‘drugs’ do it with intoxication as the end goal, either.

  38. Larry Ledwick says:

    A little pre-election crowd reaction here —
    Is it a bad sign if the crowd breaks out laughing if you say HRC is honest??


  39. E.M.Smith says:


    OMG! that video clip is a hoot!

  40. Larry Ledwick says:

    Notice his facial expression at the very end of the clip and the compressed lips smile.

  41. Larry Ledwick says:

    I don’t know whether to consider this just normal political campaign salesmanship or if she really believes what she is telling these union folks. If she really believed and asked that question from a position of belief she is more out of touch than I thought – off in her own little bubble world.


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