Hillary Wikileaks Trump Issues Part #2

As the first one was getting way slow to load ( 301 comments as of this moment!) I’m opening a Part Two page

Suggested by Larry here

Seconded by me ;-)

Prior start of this thread at:


At the end of that set was a comment that Wikileaks is having some of their connectivity killed by “State Actors”. In a side note, RT had their bank accounts in London frozen today. Connected?…

I can still get RT (Russia Today) online here: https://www.rt.com/on-air/


Backtracking from ‘no discussion’? UK bank says it will review closure of RT accounts
Published time: 17 Oct, 2016 19:25
Edited time: 17 Oct, 2016 20:56

Backtracking from ‘no discussion’? UK bank says it will review closure of RT accounts
Published time: 17 Oct, 2016 19:25
Edited time: 17 Oct, 2016 20:56
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The Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) appears to have backtracked from its earlier statement that the looming closure of RT accounts is not up for discussion. In a letter to RT, the bank said the situation is being reviewed and the bank is contacting the customer.
The e-mailed response began with apologies for the delay in the reply.

“These decisions are not taken lightly. We are reviewing the situation and are contacting the customer to discuss this further. The bank accounts remain open and are still operative,” Sarah Hinton-Smith, Head of Corporate & Institutional, Commercial & Private Media at RBS Communications, wrote.

However, the response by Hinton-Smith contradicted an earlier statement by RBS Group, which said that the decision to suspend banking services to RT was final and not up for discussion.

The broadcaster addressed the Royal Bank of Scotland representative over the contradiction, pointing out that “your statement seems to suggest that the bank will contact RT and that there will be a review and further discussion.”

“There’s not much more of a steer I can give other than what is in the statement,” Hinton-Smith replied via email.

Earlier Monday, the National Westminster Bank (NatWest), which is part of RBS Group, informed RT UK’s office in London that it will no longer have the broadcaster among its customers, without providing any explanation for the decision.

Now, to me, it sure looks like Soros is pissed at Putin and Russia for issuing an arrest warrant for him and kicking his NGOs out, so is ‘hitting back’ with the UK and EU governments… Now add that Wikileaks is whacking Hillary (and so SHE and her underlings are accusing Wikileaks of being Russian Puppets) and it starts to fit a Western Paranoia Narrative by TPTB especially those beholden to Soros.

So we’re in the start of a full on Cyber War, with the first shots fired at RT and Assange / Wikileaks.

Anyone who can find the link to download the Wikileaks load, please put it up. I’m ‘on the road’ and can’t get to my main download spot until this evening. I’d like to just walk in, sit down, and launch without the search time…

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276 Responses to Hillary Wikileaks Trump Issues Part #2

  1. Larry Ledwick says:

    In response to the last two posts on the previous thread for Hillary wikileaks, Trump Issues
    to keep the response in context.

    j martin says:	
    17 October 2016 at 9:16 pm	
    US election machines made to deliver any vote the cia require.
    j martin says:	
    17 October 2016 at 9:37 pm	
    The US uses a variety of electronic vote counting methods. Since these are all almost certainly open to being adjusted by the cia or other dubious entity then no matter how many people vote for Trump, Clinton will be elected. What proportion of the us vote counting is done by electronic machine.? Any proportion over 25% is probably enough to control who wins overall.

    Wow if that is a legitimate test ? (ie we have no way of knowing all the unknowable things like video editing, was the machine read out the same one actually tested etc.)
    That would be a strong basis for a mandatory recount of random precincts to validate the hardware, with the choice of precinct made double blind after the election is over. Require all paper ballots locked down and sealed until that validation step is taken and the legitimacy of the counts confirmed.

  2. j martin says:

    We still use paper counts, open, on tv, people double checking, not so easy to fiddle the result. There is some amount of fraud, but if you want big fraud then you need an electronic voting system. We got Brexit against the wishes of the state and the mass media. No electronic vote machines in the UK.

  3. cdquarles says:

    The process here, because of the Voting Rights Act and quite a bit of actual voter fraud, (I knew one person who did prison time for it while the pol who hired her got probation) requires ID to register, ID to vote, IDs checked and your name marked when you show up, poll worker positions have a generally low turnover, so once they know you, they can spot an identity thief, get printed and numbered ballot, fill out mark sense spots (with instructions), spoiled ballots examined right then and collected, put ballot in the machine, take receipt, then leave. If something still goes wrong, you notify the officials right then. Machines are supposed to be sealed and receipt copies sealed for audit purposes, if necessary. As far as I know, there is no network connection involved until the counts have been done. Local precincts report directly the tabulation then send the physical items to the Secretary of State. The Secretary of State certifies the results. Recount rules vary by political jurisdiction, but must conform to State law and the applicable Federal law.

  4. Jeff says:

    Interesting doings over at the treehouse:

    and Breitbart:

    Seems like the vid is getting suppressed off and on, yet folks are reposting it everywhere. Even Trump has it up on his FB page (I don’t have farcebork, so I can’t tell)…

    And there are more….. I suspect Clinton News Network will find some “reason” we can’t watch them.

  5. Larry Ledwick says:

    These photos are from the Boulder Camera at an appearence by Donald Trump Jr. today in Boulder.


  6. Larry Ledwick says:

    video of Donald Trump Jr. at boulder — small group speech.

  7. catweazle666 says:

    “We got Brexit against the wishes of the state and the mass media.”

    There is a school of thought that holds that is because Cameron et al seriously misunderestimated the strength of feeling for Brexit and didn’t produce enough bogus ‘Remain’ ballot papers to ensure the ‘correct’ result.

    That would perhaps explain how totally astounded he and his missus were at the result, it was very clear indeed that he was 110% convinced he had the referendum sewn up as tight as a duck’s whatsit.

  8. E.M.Smith says:

    OK, it looks like the wikileaks folks are fairly smart. Per:


    The insurance file was released in June, so 4 months of dowloads ago…

    The torrent file is in a quoted bit that looks like a torrent file.


    That gets


    Which, with a torrent capable browser or ‘transmission’ or similar downloads 88 GB or so of an encrypted blob that, should they need it, can be on a deadmen switch to release the decrypt code.

    Nicely done.

    Being released well in advance, it can no longer be halted. Being encrypted and hashed, it can’t be forged. Being widely distributed peer to peer, it can’t be reeled back in or quashed, and the key, being small, can be flooded out via all sorts of comms from twitter to email to hand to hand or even snail mail.

    So at this point I don’t really need to download it. Might be interesting anyway, but certainly not urgent.

    That TPTB have decided to try to shut them down now, just shows how little they understand this insurance file system. It is a gun at their head if they block slow release. All they can hope for is to set off one big bang instead of slow drips…

    Blocking the internet access of Assange is dumb too. He will have authorized seconds ready to light the fuse if needed. Makes him a martyr to techys… Were I on his team, I’d get a parabolic beam set up pointed at a high embassy window and / or a VPN inside the secure embassy traffic (shutting off the embassy comms is sort of an act of war…). That folks in the UK & USA are trying to intimidate Ecuador shows them ignorant of politics there… it just adds street cred to Dear Leader…

    I suspected our folks were a bit dim about Things Net,
    but this confirms it…

  9. Larry Ledwick says:

    I was thinking all he needs is a small hotspot or tethered phone since he is in the middle of London and or the access code to some near by commercial wifi that has signal strength inside his room in the embassy. Unless the building is RF shielded it would be nearly impossible to shut him down if he has access to a street view window.

    Remember the picture of him looking out the embassy window ?
    IR LED to some near by site someone can set up a receiver, could even be reflected off of something and not direct line of sight.

    This however adds significant credibility to what he is leaking regardless.

  10. E.M.Smith says:

    Larry, I’d figure the usual wifi is being jammed. Either need more power in a directional beam, or move off frequency or tunnel inside an allower signal. Like the iR link idea…


    Looks like 1.4 km and about 10 Mb…. nice. If they don’t have something like this set up inside a week, I’ll be surprized…

    Hey, they have a wiki…


    Looks like some folks build LAN and MAN links out of them…

  11. gallopingcamel says:

    I have long thought of “Jeff Id” at the “Air Vent” as a kindred spirit.

    He has only made five posts in 2016 but I think you will agree that his latest is powerful:

  12. omanuel says:

    I agree with gallopingcamel. But I fully expect Hillary to try to steal the election, regardless of the actual vote. So does Jon Rappoport: https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/10/17/fakery-major-media-preparing-to-steal-election-night-outcome/

  13. gallopingcamel says:

    “Blocking the internet access of Assange is dumb too. ”

    How right you are! The first problem is that the media widely reported this so people who had not heard of Wikileaks are now asking what is going on.

    The next problem is that you can’t stop a skilled hacker by cutting off his Internet access so the action will soon be proven futile.

    I thought Hillary’s best idea was to “Drone” Assange but now we learn that would have caused the release of the second encryption key to an 88 GB “Insurance File”.

    Assange is living rent free in Hillary Clinton’s head and Donald is twisting the knife (apologies for the mixed metaphors). The debate on Wednesday should be a bundle of fun given that Trump will hammer Hillary about the corruption exposed by Wikileaks and the FBI. Thus far he has not mentioned the huge donations to the Clinton Foundation related by the New York Times:

    Unlike “Polished Politicians” who repeat “Stump Speeches” over and over, Donald Trump keeps adding new things so it never gets boring. It is a great help to him that Hillary presents such a “Target Rich Environment”. He does not have to make stuff up.

  14. hillbilly33 says:

    In Australia, Michael Smith and his able posters have been doing tremendous research and exposure of the Clinton Foundation for many months . Read how Google have reacted.


  15. sabretoothed says:

  16. philjourdan says:

    I am reminded of the first time I was laid off. It was 1990. And I had a small department network going (back when the only network experts was the last guy to install one). Needless to say, no one at the company knew anything about them except me. I came in one weekend to work on the Company budget, and found my keyboard missing! I suspected the reason as the company was not doing well. But I merely went to another computer on the network, ran the simulations I had planned and went home.

    Right on queue, on Monday, they laid me off. I still laugh at their impotency and lack of understanding about networks. The company has long since faded into the dustbins of chapter 7 bankruptcy.

    Depriving Assange of his internet access does not remove the fact the hacked information is still out there. And it will come out. It does display the stupidity of those fighting against him.

  17. E.M.Smith says:


    You might like to look at those RONJA links I posted above. It’s an optical link in free air (using IR or red LEDs) based on open source design. I.e. you can DIY a link good for a km or more…. some folks have made area mesh links (MAN or Metro area network) bypasseing all sorts of other actors (governments and telcos).

    Being an optics guy it might be ammusing to see what the hacker types are doing :-)


    I regularly use 3 or 4 search engines and compare. IMHO, Google is the most buggered. It would not find the saftey file torrent for me last night. Duckduckgo got it on the first search. For anything not PC or not in line with Democratic Party Goals, avoid Google.

  18. Power Grab says:

    @ catweazle666: Good to know. Fits nicely with that “surly curmudgeon” scenario, methinks!

    Hmmm…yesterday I not only received a friend request on FB from someone who is supposedly friends with two high-profile friends of mine (not a good sign, IMHO), but also had only one cheesy picture on their page (probably stolen), but I also received a call on my cell from a number that appears to be in DC. The name of the FB requester appears to be some kind of legal beagle in Alaska or Minnesota, and the phone call traced to a name that lost a court case ($10K judgment) due to “negligence”. They seem to be getting sloppy. Or they’re spoofing identities that aren’t very savory.

    I was trying to figure out why I’m being probed…maybe they’re trying to figure out which way I’ll vote…so they can come up with enough bogus votes to counter me, if necessary. I haven’t said anything publicly. If I do get cornered and have to respond, I’ll prevaricate. ;-)

  19. philjourdan says:


    Holy crap CNN actually has the chutzpah to tell people it is illegal for them to search wikileaks!

    it will be after Hillary is elected.

  20. E.M.Smith says:


    Oh Man, that was a thing of beauty!

  21. E.M.Smith says:


    Just tell any probe that “The environment really matters to me, so I’m for Jill!”

    They will be happy and go away.

    When asked about party, I freely state my voter reg “unaligned” (like “independent” but different… I’d reged for the Refom Party once. When it evaporated, I found myself reclassified to “unaligned” and liked the novelty of it, so didn’t reregister as independent…that I had been before.)

    It is great fun to be able to answer truthfully and fully while providing no information :-)

    Only downside is lack of input to most primaries… at least in this State.

  22. A C Osborn says:

    I am sure that various US Departments think that they are above the “Law” and it must have been a shock to be put in your place and then served like that, as you say a thing of beauty.

  23. Larry Ledwick says:

    As far as expedient optical links the simplest hackertech setup I can think of would involve an IR LED a detector for the other end and two rifle scopes pointed at each other. Place IR LED at eyepiece of one scope which has those handy little cross hairs to tell you exactly where it is pointed, and do the same at the other end.

    For example a cheap Bushnell 4 – 12 power rifle scope has a field of view at 100 yards of 11′ at 12 power, just enough to project a beam big enough to cover a distant window. A more expensive 24 power rifle scope has a 5′ field of view at 100 yards.

  24. Larry Ledwick says:

    Documenting pay roll links between HRC and people who have bragged about engaging in protests and baiting Trump supporters to violence.


  25. E.M.Smith says:

    I find it interesting that nobody has said anything about the RT bank account closure.

    It shows folks with a lot of pull in the UK are interested in directly slapping Russia (while I see RT as more western presenters and radical news refugees, some folks see it as Russian Govt.)

    This had to be an official act and actor, and arrives at the same time Assange gets muzzled…

    “Info wars” in deed, not just Infowars paranoia….

    So the UK and USA have full on data and info vacuums sucking up ALL available info, private or not, to be used against you; now are trying to block alternative info flow (shades of East Germany…) and a direct whack at Russia when the UK, USA, and others are in a shooting war arena with Russia and Turkey as “Frenemies”….

  26. philjourdan says:

    @E.M. – Re: Silk Road. Actually, vendors make it even easier. A front end server pulls a check page off the server to make sure it is fine. If it goes down, the front end server then changes the DNS (even TOR uses it) to point to the new server, so it barely skips a beat. And the technology is dirt cheap. Many companies use it for their active/active data centers.

  27. Gail Combs says:

    E.M. You can always do what I do. Change registration just before deadline so you can vote in the primary of your choice and then change back to unaligned right afterwards. (It is always fun to muck with their heads.)

  28. Gail Combs says:

    To make the Democrat/Hillary paid agitators forcing Trump to cancel the rally in Chicago story complete, do not forget the Stand Down orders to the Chicago police and that Rahm Emanuel returned to Chicago after leaving the Obama Admin. making it very probable this was NOT a SNAFU but deliberate.

    Second City Cop: Questions About Last Night

    First up, who was in charge? As far as we can tell, there was pretty much zero in terms of a unified Command

    Second, who wrote this plan? We've seen and heard reports that UIC was woefully unprepared for this. They had their own people and Monterey Security inside. The Secret Service had a presence, but they're restricted to dignitary protection. The ISP had a squad there. And CPD.
    So where were the people geared up for a riot?
    For NATO we had an entire strike force geared up and ready to go.
    We had the Mounted Unit up and running.
    Tens of dozens of bikes.
    Did no one see this coming?

    Third, who evacuated the Pavilion, putting a few thousand people out on the street as targets? A bad decision, probably by the UIC people attempting to "protect" the building. Same with not securing the parking structure, leading to many confrontations and property damage in the lots. Dumb move.

    Fourth……ah f*ck it. There are a million "after action" questions that need to be asked and answered.
    Who gave up the expressway?
    Who let them block ambulances?
    Why did they not assemble citywide Incident Teams as soon as they knew the rally was canceled? Tact Teams?
    We even heard Mass Arrest kits weren't available and only one transport wagon on scene in case arrests were made.

    Who ever drew up this order failed miserably. Whatever the Intelligence Section was doing wasn't nearly enough. The On Scene Incident Commander failed to anticipate even the best case scenario and every other appointee showed how incompetent they really were by not ordering up more reinforcements and more units on stand-by…..

    The cops did not even have riot gear!

    One of the commenters said
    “Our first amendment rights were denied and the media, community organizer and our weasel of a mayor say nothing. And you know the pimps and lackeys running the dept.were told to skip the riot gear we don’t want to look too aggressive. Not to worry the brass pimps will collect their gold braid pensions.”

    “I was monitoring tweets by several of the protests as they planned their action to disrupt the event. They were giving times and places to meet, how to obtain free passes to enter the event and what to do once inside. Yet I am sure no one assigned to security monitored this as well?”

    Another said:
    “I was there as a spectator (and I’m CPD). A man came on the microphone and said the rally was postponed to a later date and the protesters started cheering and chanted we won. There were about 250 Arabs that were the main ones doing it. I watched them gather on the floor while we were all waiting and it was clear to everyone around me that they were plotting something. No one even checked my ticket when I walked in so I’m sure plenty of others got in without tickets. No one told us to evacuate or leave. I just left on my own because it was very dangerous in there. Several people around me were afraid to leave the building. There was no direction in there and the poor officers were in over their heads while dozens of ppo’s and tact teams stood in wait just steps from the door. I tried telling them that the cops inside needed help but they said they were posted outside.
    Whatever boss planned this did a horrible job and put hundreds of officer’s lives in danger and thousands of trump supporters in danger.”


    … After the 2008 presidential election, President Barack Obama appointed Emanuel to serve as White House chief of staff.

    In October 2010, Emanuel resigned as chief of staff to run as a candidate in Chicago’s 2011 mayoral election. Because of questions over his eligibility to run for mayor, Emanuel’s candidacy was initially rejected by the Illinois First District Appellate Court, though he was later found eligible to run in a unanimous decision by the Supreme Court of Illinois. Emanuel won with 55%…

    Emanuel ‘inherited’ Chicago from the Daleys

    Richard Michael Daley… who served as the 54th Mayor of Chicago, Illinois from 1989 to 2011. Daley was elected mayor in 1989 and was re-elected five times until declining to run for a seventh term. At 22 years, he was the longest-serving Chicago mayor, surpassing the tenure of his father, Richard J. Daley….

    Rahm Emanuel worked for the Daley campaign as a fundraiser,[42] David Axelrod as campaign strategist, William Daley as chief strategist, and Forrest Claypool as a campaign aide…

    Does anyone blame Putin for not wanting this crap in his country and tossing Soros and his ‘Open Society’ out?

  29. philjourdan says:

    @Gail – just remember the 3 Rs they teach in your state. Readin, Ritin, and the Road to Richmond. ;-)

    You do not have to register with any party, and can vote in either. But only in one or the other, not both.

  30. Gail Combs says:

    Cue National Enquirer…. OUCH!!!!

    That is how to REALLY reach the low info voters!

    Ever since the Enquirer broke the John Edwards love child story, their rep for breaking news stories that the MSM will not touch has been high with the lo-fo folks. Also their format is usually lots of pictures and not much text so it does reach those who do not read well.

  31. Larry Ledwick says:

    If that allegation is true it completely changes the terrain in the Vince Foster suicide too!

  32. Gail Combs says:

    philjourdan says…..

    Phil, it completely depends on the rules of the state.

    …How are presidential primary elections conducted in California?
    Qualified political parties in California may hold presidential primaries in one of two ways:

    Closed presidential primary – only voters indicating a preference for a party may vote for that party’s presidential nominee. Modified-closed presidential primary – the party also allows voters who did not state a party preference to vote for that party’s presidential nominee.

    If a qualified political party chooses to hold a modified-closed presidential primary, the party must notify the California Secretary of State no later than the 135th day before Election Day.

    For North Carolina

    If you registered as an Unaffiliated voter and want to vote in the Primary, you can ask for a Republican, Democratic, Libertarian or Nonpartisan ballot. Your choice does not change your Unaffiliated status or obligate you to vote for a party’s candidates in the General Election.

    For Maryland

    The Democratic and Republican Parties are required to use primary elections to choose their candidates for the general election. Although it is up to the parties to decide who may vote in their primaries, generally only registered voters affiliated with the Democratic or Republican Parties may vote in that party’s primary election.

    More info:

  33. E.M.Smith says:


    Silly me, I’d thought complicating the discussion with load balancers and automatic routing changes would be too much ;-)

    (The perils of setting the “simples and clear” vs “correct and obscure” knob a bit wrong ;-)

    FWIW, I’ve installed and configured load balancers. Did one site for “A Major Coffee – think hot and savory in your cup mocha nation wide” live during business hours. Quite a bit of fun on that one. Changed their IP / internet service provider, put in a second ISP feed from a second POP (point of presence), brought up load balancers, and renumbered their internal IP space… all live and with essentially zero service interruption. (Yes, we used ‘fun tricks’ in router, switch, and server land… dual IP numbers from different networks on the same interfaces, ‘blink cut’ of whole switches to new backbone routers (flush arp cache…), parallel bring up of one ISP, then take down of old, then dual routing with the load balancers that were also redundant… Such fun…) I’d love to talk about things at that level of tech, but I’ve learned that it just causes most folks eyes to glaze and their face to go slack ;-)

    But it’s nice to know someone else gets it too ;-)


    If I re-reg, I get “independent” in stead of “unaligned”. I know, probably not worth caring… but it’s fun to see folks at the polling station go “Wha… oh, give him ‘independent’ ballot”… It seems that they have a distinct category here for “Folks who’s party affiliation went away but they didn’t CHOOSE to be independent”… Go figure… Someday I’l re-reg, if I ever care enough. (Though that will most likely be in Florida in a year or so…) BTW, in California I can vote in the Democratic Party primary as an ‘independent’ or ‘unaligned’, so I’m not completely frozen out. IIRC, at some point (maybe already past?) the Republicans are also going to open it up.

    Yeah, I think the ubiquitous camera phone is starting to crimp the style of some of the old ‘secret dirty tricks’ and now the new stories tend to the ‘story about the trick’ instead of the intended result. The MSM is starting to look increasingly like ‘fun house mirrors’ on reality.

    FWIW, the “cord cutting” is going well. While making my first cut at “Scotch Broth” canned soup today, I watched (mostly listened) to a round robing of Sky News, France24, CBS (boring), and RT (some of it reruns from last night). Seems there’s a war on in Mosul, France is set to destroy ‘the jungle’, and the UK is wondering what the heck is the deal with Trump – while pondering their court deciding if Brexit means Brexit or if it means “Parliament gets to choose what it means”… There’s a whole world going on out there that the US MSM just seems to know nothing about… Haven’t turned on the TV since the spouse turned it off last night (and that was Star Trek that we could get on DVDs…)


    This is news? Now news would be answering: Butch or Submissive? Handcuffs or whip? ;-)

    (Though the mental image of Hillary in Leathers, hat, and riding crop makes me wretch…)

  34. philjourdan says:

    I know Gail, that is why I suggested the Road to Richmond. ;-)

  35. Larry Ledwick says:

    The news part is that somebody talked about it on record.

  36. Gail Combs says:

    E.M. says (Though the mental image of Hillary in Leathers, hat, and riding crop makes me wretch…)

    GAG, did you have to do that just before I put the goat neck chops in to marinade?

  37. Larry Ledwick says:

    Short video from Anonymous cited example of cooked polling

  38. Larry Ledwick says:

    Democratic Digital campaign guidelines for final weeks of the election cycle.


  39. Larry Ledwick says:

    Stefan Molyneux video on the choice between Trump and Hillary

  40. Larry Ledwick says:

    Anti-Trump protesters spray pro-trump people outside city hall, before the city council was to discuss a proposed resolution to condemn what it calls Trump’s divisive rhetoric.



  41. Larry Ledwick says:

    Project Veritas video results in a Democratic operative stepping back from direct actions.

  42. Gail Combs says:

    ConservativeTreeHouse FBI Release 100 Clinton Investigation Pages: “Quid Pro Quo”, “Shadow Government”, and More…

    Sundance points out

    Page(s) 43, 44, 45 – Show aspects of the perspective of Secretary Clinton as she rebukes her security apparatus and puts her diplomatic team at risk. Also the alarming influence of Huma Abedin into security and protocol changes.

    These pages substantiate the Russians view that Hillary has a really bad temper and is not all together sane.

    He points out a lot more.

  43. Gail Combs says:

    Isn’t this one interesting?

    (or https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/17/fbi-release-100-clinton-investigation-pages-quid-pro-quo-shadow-government-and-more/#comment-3095701 )

    So NSA set up a computer system for Clinton. Was that at the state dept. or in her bathroom???

    Page 54 – Discusses the missing boxes of printed Clinton Emails.
    Also Clinton took lamps and furniture from the State Dept to furnish her home.

    Full pdf


    Also this video where a chef says Hillary was displeased and called a black guy n…..r. Those outing the story had repercussions.

  44. Gail Combs says:

    …..John Kerry’s threats and Hillary’s threats….

    BREAKING: [VIDEO] Julian Assange in the Custody of UK Officials!

    …Based on unconfirmed reports from the UK by sources on the ground. The Ecuadorian Embassy was stormed by special forces or tactical law enforcement agents moments ago. A man was seen leaving with a black bag over his head. These events occurred only 30 minutes after Wikileaks tweeted that Julian Assange was disconnected from the Internet.

    The entire event took less than 5 minutes to go down.

    Roger Stone @RogerJStoneJr
    Reports the Brits storm the Ecuadorian Embassy tonite while Kerry demands the UK revoke their diplomatic status so Assange can be seized
    11:49 PM – 16 Oct 2016
    3,321 3,321 Retweets 2,349 2,349 likes
    We will bring you more as more information is made available. We will update this article as information comes in…

  45. Another Ian says:

    Nothing on Breitbart London as yet. Though the direct link didn’t complete upload to another site

  46. Gail Combs says:

    Zero Hedge has Wiki’s Tweets with keys to encryption?

    …. Wikileaks tweeted out what some suggested were the “dead man keys” that are allegedly the encryption codes for highly damaging secret documents to be uneviled in the case of Assange’s death….


  47. E.M.Smith says:


    Love that Molyneux video.

    Do remember that the ‘rules’ for being ‘Anonymous’ are basically anyone who thinks they agree with its vague goals… So anyone who is claiming to be “Anonymous” could be any agent or agency at all. So apply salt liberally…


    Until now I’d regretted that I was not a member of Anonymous. But as the description says they have no members and anyone who identifies with ‘one of their causes’ can jump in, and as I’m very interested in internet freedom and anonymity, I guess I can use the name Anonymous…

    So one must ask “Is this one of their causes”?

    I donno… though given the nature and extent of ‘leaks’ and ‘hacks’ of her email, maybe so ;-)

    In any case, I’m not sure how you can have a video channel on YouTube and be really Anonymous, but maybe that’s just me not knowing enough about making YouTubes… (I’ve thought about doing it, but never gotten a round Tuit, so you have all been spared my mug on the uTube…)

    Before I’d believe a poll from a uTube, I’d need some kind of confirmation. (Not that I believe any OTHER polls either… IMHO call screening has killed polling accuracy).


    I’m not seeing confirmation of that Assange grab assertion. Either it’s way early or it’s a fake. Time will tell, I suppose.

    Wonder what kind of leverage could be put on the Ecuadorans… they have generally been very willing to put a thumb in the eye of the western powers… would it be a huge chunk of money? A ‘favorable’ ruling per some claim, say against an oil company? A threat of ‘regime change’? Hmmm….

    Oh, and sorry to ruin your chops… then again, it was just the marinade step… you ought to recover by the time dinner is done…

    In compensation:

    I’ve made a batch of Scotch Broth soup in jars:

    2 TBS each of diced onion, carrots, and celery (small dice).
    2 TBS lamb dice (goat ought to work dandy…)
    1 TBS pearled barley
    1 “Not-beef” bouillon cube (got it from Sprouts but Whole Foods ought to have them too).
    Edward & Sons brand. “Not-Beef Rich Savory Broth and Seasoning” vegan recipe. 3.1 oz or 88g per package of 8 cubes, so 11 g / cube.

    Canned at 10 psi for 1 hour 15 minutes. Tasty.

    Were I making it just for me, I’d add a small grind of pepper, but the spouse likes things less zippy. Also, were I not trying to avoid tomatoes, I’d consider a tsp of diced tomatoes to raise the acid level just a bit and add some color, thought that isn’t traditional.

    Why use ‘not-Beef’ vegetarian attempt at beef-like flavor? Well, I wanted a ‘red meat like stock’, but NOT a real beef flavor, as this is NOT a beef soup. Faux-red-meat flavor is actually pretty good in this case. For those with a load of bones and trimmings and time, you could just make your own lamb (or goat) stock and use it in the jars instead… It is basically just salt, palm oil, yeast extract, cane sugar and a list of herbs that give a rich flavor. I think it is the mushroom and chicory extracts that give it the depth / meaty character. It’s basically just a way to avoid making lamb stock for me ;-)

  48. Gail Combs says:

    E.M. I tossed the Assange stuff out as a keep an eye on this. Even the article says it is not verified. However the optics for Hillary and Kerry after their threats is not good. (Two can play that game {:>D )

    The goat chops are still marinading given the goat was over 10 years old. I am thinking of hauling a couple out of the marinade to ‘fry up’ for lunch to see how tough they are.

    The scotch broth sounds yummy. And yes, I make all my own soup stocks although I will sometimes use the non-NaCL bouillon packet as a stretcher IF I can manage to find them. NaCl makes my blood pressure go through the roof so I use meat bones, onions and lots of spices and KCl for stock.

    After years of homemade soup, store bought now tastes like a bowl of salt water to me.

  49. Power Grab says:

    @ EM – would a little vinegar raise the acidity and not spoil the flavor? I know lots of folks who make salsa for sale locally and only use vinegar to make it last longer.

  50. Gail Combs says:

    Power Grab,

    I use lemon juice or sometimes vinegar every time I make soup stock from bones. You just have to be careful not to add too much.

    As a chemist working in analytical/QC labs when I got home I refused to measure a darn thing. That is why I like soups. Toss stuff in the pot, cover with water simmer 2, 3 or more hours until the meat leaves the bones, remove bones, toss in a handful of various spices and veggies, cook an additional 1/2 hour to 1 hour.
    Carrots, parsnips, celery, onions, potatoes need about 1 hour
    mushrooms, water chestnuts, green peppers need ~1/2 hour
    Add saved cooked meat.
    Toss bok choy in at the very end. stems first and then leaves.

  51. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well this is interesting appears the FEC is responding to complaints against HRC campaign.


    A few possibilities come to mind, this is Obama doing payback on the Clinton’s in a way that won’t come back to bite him directly (rumor has it that there is lots of bad blood between the Clinton’s and Obama and they only act like team players for the good of the party.

    Or someone in the FEC is actually responding to the complaints and is being responsible, or is doing a sham investigation to white wash the allegations and hang it on some random rogue employee.

  52. Larry Ledwick says:

    Article on how HRC and the DNC may have been hacked. Site uses one of those persistant banners you have to click to get to the content so posting here under fair use as a news worthy item.


    Originally appeared here:

    A Russian hacking group used spearphishing to steal the Gmail login credentials of Hillary Clinton campaign staff, and that may be how campaign emails now being released were stolen, according to Secure Works.

    The attack targeted 108 hillaryclinton.com email addresses, and was carried out by a Russian group called Threat Group-4127 (TG-4127), according to Secure Works’ Counter Threat Unit (CTU) blog.

    CTU can’t directly link the spearphishing operation against the Clinton campaign with the hack of Democratic National Committee emails revealed June 14, but “CTU researchers suspect that TG-4127 used the spearphishing emails or similar techniques to gain an initial foothold in the DNC network. “

    CTU found that in addition to the Gmail accounts, TG-4127 also targeted the private email accounts of 26 people associated with either Clinton’s campaign or the DNC.

    In March the Secure Works researchers identified a spearphishing campaign that used Bitly to shorten the URLs for malicious sites. The attackers would send an email containing the shortened links in hopes the targets would click on them.

    Users rarely check the full URL associated with short links, so threat groups can use URL-shortening services to effectively hide malicious URLs.

    Clicking on the links led to a TG-4127 site that spoofed the Google domain login page. The spoofed page appears prepopulated with the victims’ Gmail addresses so it looks legitimate. If the victims log in, the site captures their credentials and the attackers can then use that information to log in to access the victims’ Gmail persistently, the blog says.

    DNS records for the hillaryclinton.com domain – used by Clinton’s campaign – show it used a Google Apps mail server. “When presented with TG-4127’s spoofed login page, victims might be convinced it was the legitimate login page for their hillaryclinton.com email account,” the blog says.

    The attackers targeted 108 hillaryclinton.com email addresses in the phishing attack, and using open source research the CTU team identified 66 of the users of those accounts. Job titles for the targeted staffers included national political director, finance director, director of strategic communications, director of scheduling, director of travel, traveling press secretary and travel coordinator. “There was no open-source footprint for the remaining 42 addresses, suggesting that TG-4127 acquired them from another source, possibly other intelligence activity,” the blog says.

    The Bitly links – 213 in all – were first created in mid-March and the last one in mid-May. So far just 20 of them have been clicked, likely by victims responding to the spearphishing. “Eleven of the links were clicked once, four were clicked twice, two were clicked three times, and two were clicked four times,” the blog says.

    The researchers say that TG-4127 also created Bitly links to malicious Web sites and targeted nine dnc.org email accounts with them, including the DNC’s communications director and its secretary emeritus. The timeframe for this attack was mid-March to mid-April.

    The damage done by this type of hack could include the ability to access other Google services such as Google Drive and to generate spearphishing emails using legitimate email addresses internal to the organizations and possibly unleash malware in the organizations’ networks, the researchers say.

    The researchers say TG-4127 has targeted the White House, the German parliament and the German Christian Democratic Union political party. “CTU researchers assess with moderate confidence that the group is operating from the Russian Federation and is gathering intelligence on behalf of the Russian government,” the blog post says.

    The researchers have not seen this type of TG-4127 spearphishing attack target the Republican Party or other presidential candidates, but they didn’t use Google mail servers.

    “Targeting individuals linked to presidential campaigns could represent an intelligence ‘long game,’ as establishing access to potential U.S. administration staff before they are appointed could be easier than targeting them when they are established in the White House,” CTU says,

    This story, “Russian hacker group used phony Google login page to hack Clinton campaign” was originally published by Network World.

  53. Zeke says:

    Now add that Wikileaks is whacking Hillary (and so SHE and her underlings are accusing Wikileaks of being Russian Puppets)

    Here is an interesting development in the Wikileaks saga:

    Rubio warns GOP to stay silent on WikiLeaks hack
    Politico‎ – 6 hours ago
    Marco Rubio has been mum on the WikiLeaks hack of Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman …
    Rubio: I Won’t Talk About WikiLeaks, and Neither Should Donald Trump
    ABC News‎ – 11 hours ago
    Marco Rubio Warns GOP On WikiLeaks: ‘Tomorrow, It Could Be Us’
    NPR‎ – 7 hours ago

    Follow me here on Rubio. I have been reading some of the documents on Assange’s site. I looked at Bill Ivey’s email which people here will know as the “unaware and compliant citizenry” email.

    Here it is:

    “And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking – and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging.”

    Then he says,
    “Rubio’s press conference yesterday AM was good and should be repeated in its entirety, not just in nibbles.”

    So it appears that on at least these two occasions, Rubio has run interference for HRC>

  54. E.M.Smith says:


    As that soup is pressure canned, it ought to keep for a year or two as is…

    Acid foods (pH 4.8 or smaller IIRC) don’t need pressure canning, so in theory an acidified version of this soup could be cooked less time and / or lower pressure. The problem is you need a food pH meter…

    Adding vinegar or lemon juice will shift the flavor, but also add that nice bit of tang to it. Citric acid (beer or wine making shop or some canning departments) shifts the acid with less flavor change. My intent was to get a basic soup I like, then play with vinegar / lemon juice / citric acid to get it better. Finally, look for a food pH meter to make things with lower pressures and shorter times while staying safe, but that’s likely a year away…

    Why canned? Because having a gallon of soup in the fridge has us get tired of that one flavor before the soup is all gone… with 7 different soups on the shelf, the variation is nicer :-) Also the spouse can have the soup she wants even if I’m not home. Oh, and I’m also going to work some of them into lower sodium versions using KCl instead of NaCl. I found some salt free bullion, and that ough to work for some. If not, well, I can make my own stock…

    So far, I have oyster stew (needs fresh milk in fridge), ham and peas, chicken noodle (noodles added at heating simmer for 12 min), Chicken & Rice, Turkey noodle, Turkey & Rice, Vegetable, and Scotch Broth. Next up to make are some cream of Stuff soups… and a potato soup.

    All of them keep for a year or two… acid just lets you improve the quality with less aggressive processing. If stored in the fridge (not canned) acid does extend storage life some.

    OMG, somebody doing their job in government? Must be a coverup ;-)


    I make a lot of soups that way, but with my dinky freezer, need some canned soups for rapid snacks and longer storage. Using the ingredients raw has made it a great time saver on cooking, too. Unfortunately, lentil soup came out more like lentil puree… so needs more work… I really like my lentil soup made in a big pot… but canning it was a complete texture change.

    The biggy for me has just been the downshift to ‘cooking for 2’. A whole roast ham or turkey takes forever to use up, and chicken gets old after a month of it every other day… and a gallon or two of lentil soup takes forever to eat… so I’m looking at ways to still cook large (efficient) while getting variety back up. Canning seems to let me do that (at least until I get a garage sized chest freezer ;-)


    Back on wikileaks, it looks like Ecuador cut the connection so the UK didn’t cut off the whole embassy… if that’s the case, Assange just needs a mobile hot spot then he can do an encrypted VPN to home base. Could be jammed, but that would tend to jam all cell phones in the area…

  55. E.M.Smith says:


    Nice intel on the likely method. Note that even they only say ” moderate confidence”… the evidence may point at that group, but is that the truth, or a crafted cover by the real system cracker?

    Oh, and it nicely illustrates why I don’t click popups or short links… and only do email from a system other than my browser system… and frequently move to a new system image, and…
    Maybe it’s time for an IDS posting ‘howto’ for things like Snort and Suricata….


    Those in the Politicians Guild do not like amatures taking their positions of power… ignoring the ‘rules of play’… talking about term limits and cutting the slush funds available…

  56. Zeke says:

    PS Regarding above comment : Date: 2016-03-13 17:06 Subject: From Bill Ivey

    I have not researched what Rubio actually said in March 2016 that Bill Ivey found to be so “good” that it should be “repeated.” So this needs to be vetted further. Bill Ivey was the director of the NEArts and also was “the first full-time director of the Country Music Foundation and the related Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum, serving from 1971 to 1998..[1]” re: “unaware and compliant citizenry”

    But this all goes to the unity of political class and the Progressive Republicans who were in fact facilitators for the Democrats to run the country 19 trillion dollars in debt when we had a majority in the house. It should not have happened.

    Also notice that Paul Ryan is in the same mold as Boehner. He clearly is working to be a globalist facilitator for the TTP and probably the TTIP, as well as this wretched TiSA agreement — which Wikileaks has published in part.

    Here is my evidence on Ryan and TTP: “”As long as we don’t have the votes, I see no point in bringing up an agreement only to defeat it,” Ryan said in an interview with Wisconsin Public Radio.
    “I have my own problems with TPP, it is not ready, the president has to renegotiate some critical components of it,” he said.”

    So a vote for Trump is in fact a vote against the TPP, TTIP and TiSA, and the Republicans who are waiting in the wings to fast track these extremely bad trade agreements and treaties.

    He is the only candidate who has been willing to create his own issues, despite the party and despite the news outlets!

    Although Ted Cruz did all he could to prevent the internet from being given away to the UN, and he had no support. Donald J Trump has also now opposed this action and this is a campaign issue for him.

  57. Zeke says:

    O you’re right Chief. It is amazing that Donald J Trump has turned out to be a genuine Interloper in the Political Guild.

    (I can be kind of an ant at the picnic, I know that. Thanks for having broad shoulders.)

  58. Glenn999 says:

    I was looking for some info on my Senator Rubio. But at this point his opponent is a real weasel, no offense to weasels. Maybe cockroach is a better descriptor. Patrick Murphy would not be a good replacement for Rubio. I still want to keep the Senate and House, despite the rinoscum.. Oh what to do? The primary is the time to find the most conservative option, unfortunately, most do not primary a sitting Republican. That must change.

  59. Zeke says:

    Glenn999 says:
    19 October 2016 at 11:49 pm
    I was looking for some info on my Senator Rubio. But at this point his opponent is a real weasel, no offense to weasels.

    I think you will know what to do.

    Here is a heritage scorecard for Rubio:

    A 67% voting record is better than my 45% republican.

    It’s Rubio’s record of not voting at key moments that looks bad from way over here. And his remarks that the criminal and secret behavior of the Clinton’s should not be leaked is not very bright.

    I thought he might have made a good nominee so I do know I was wrong about that. ‘Tis the season to be wrong about people. Even Sen Inhofe disappoints sometimes. When to forgive and when to punish a politician is not an exact science. lol

  60. Zeke says:

    If you want to follow the disgusting doings of the Cs around the world, that is a good link. By Bernie people too.


  61. Gail Combs says:

    The Reddit Kids have been very dilligent at digging through the the Wikileak emails. IIRCC Reddit started to give them sh..t about it too.

    When Google, Facebook, Twitte,r Reddit and the entire MSM is covering up behind Krooked Killery you know your country has a really really big problem.

    At this point I put reporters as a group below politicians.

  62. pg sharrow says:

    Politicians are expected to lie.
    Reporters are expected to report on the facts.
    Reporters that push opinion as fact and use their position to misinform the reader…pg

  63. gallopingcamel says:

    Not even Hillary Clinton would be dumb enough to arrange for Assange to be “Bagged” so you know that “Unconfirmed Report” about the Equador embassy is a spoof.

  64. Larry Ledwick says:

    From Twitter:

    Hillary dropped, on live #debatenight, Response time between presidential order and nuclear missile launch. Info isis classified TS/NC2.

    It took me a while to find the exact point in the debate, but yes she did reveal our nuclear reaction time from the time The president gives the order to the time the missiles are launched.

    Watching this version of the debate — skip to the time 34:33 – 34:44 in the debate, where she explicitly gives this info away


    We always knew it had to be a short window because SLBM flight time is so short (approx 12 min) from the ocean. As a practical matter the Russians probably already knew this or had estimated it very closely based on the well known procedures for authentication and even videos of missile crews going through the sequence. But this just shows how careless she is with critical information that is very highly classified.

    That is one point that idiots have difficulty understanding – an important part of classification is to introduce doubt even over things which you suspect the enemy knows because by confirming a time line like that you allow them to validate and bench mark all their other assumptions about the launch process. If they had estimated that time window at 3 minutes and now she has confirmed that the minimum decision cycle is actually 4 minutes that might be the break point in a planning scenario that they say — we can beat a 4 minute reaction time but cannot beat a 3 minute reaction time.

  65. pg sharrow says:

    Yes Larry, As soon as she said it, I said OMG! TraitorI
    “Loose lips sink ships” and she still has security clearance. To Hillary “What difference does it make.” Clinton, security is just another thing that she can Ignore…pg

  66. Zeke says:

    “The Reddit Kids have been very dilligent at digging through the the Wikileak emails. IIRCC Reddit started to give them sh..t about it too.” Gail

    I wasn’t.to proud to go to reddit and feel the bern. (: They did well. I actually enjoyed that.

    The Cs sell mineral rights and award contracts for natural resources in the US and in other countries. That is their schtick. Her brother is mining gold in Haiti.

    Wikileaks has a connection with arms sales and gifts to the foundation.

    And even fox and newsmax are not reporting much of this. So no respect for the media. None.

  67. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Amber Lee ‏@AmberKTVU 2h2 hours ago

    Man finds nearly 100 voter pamphlets dumped in recycling bin @berkeley. Federal investigation under way #ktvu@10:30p


  68. E.M.Smith says:


    I’ve noticed Fox is a mixed bag now. Some ‘old hands’ still reporting bits others don’t touch, but a lot of it gone soft and not willing to really chew on Hillary’s screwups. Why I’ve been branching out to ‘variety news’…

    @Larry & P.G.:

    Yeah, I “sat up and took notice” when she said the exact response time too… it was an OMG how could anyone say that! moment…

    She just told everyone the design point for a surprise attack… Engineers, start making those hypersonic motors and get out your stop watch…

    Speed of the decision cycle is one of those things you really really want to know, but can never rally know, and now they have it.

    You really really want the opponent to think that there’s always someone with delegated emergency authority under the specific case of a surprise attack who can go ahead and launch, sitting up all night every night. You don’t want them to know that if they get impact in 4 minutes post sub launch the whole nuclear fleet is grounded… so go ahead and run your sub up the Potomac for the first shot…

    Just incredibly stupid to say it. Worse, saying it to ‘show off’ and on camera to the world….

  69. beththeserf says:

    ‘…when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away;
    when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War.

    Big fail Hilary, can’t protect the cits from the enemy at the gate or
    the trojan horse within, guvuhmint’s number one responsibility.

  70. Another Ian says:



    “In a previous article, I discussed in general terms how a mainstream political party can die. There are always several contributing factors to this rare phenomenon, but the main one is that it becomes too inward looking and disconnected from both its power base of voters and too many of the representatives its voters have elected.

    There’s also an extra contributing factor at work these days; the electorate’s profound disenchantment with what is termed mainstream politicians, irrespective of the party’s nominal right or left-wing leaning.

    Electorates have simply run out of patience with politicians and their uncritical cheerleaders in the media, both of whom seem to inhabit a world in which none of the voter’s deep concerns matter or even appear to exist.”

    More at


  71. Another Ian says:

    Re the response time – like Behghazi “what does it matter”

  72. Gail Combs says:

    Zeke, EVEN Newsmax is ‘controlled opposition’ Fox turned sharp left when Murdoch’s globalist/leftist sons took over from Bill Ayers.

    Sundance and his group has been exposing the nasty dirty underbelly of the Obama Admin and the collusion by the media.

    In the next comment is the excerpts from his latest article about the media. At this point we are left with Breitbart, Alex Jones and that is it! With the handing over of the control of IP addresses to the UN, the elite hoped to plug the last hole in their wall to wall propaganda.

    I mention Brietbart because Hillary SPECIFICALLY has targeted them!

    Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s campaign has sent out a fundraising email arguing the website Breitbart News has no “right to exist,” and suggests that if elected, the website will be shut down entirely.

    “We’ve had a conservative media in this country for a while,” says the email, sent Thursday and signed by deputy communications director Christina Reynolds. “I don’t always like what they have to say, but I respect their role and their right to exist Reynolds’ acknowledgment that the regular conservative media has a “right to exist,” though, is used to contrast it with Breitbart, which apparently has no such right…

    “Breitbart is something different,” she says. “They make Fox News look like a Democratic Party pamphlet. They’re a different breed altogether — not just conservative but radical, bigoted, anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic conspiracy peddlers who never have been and never should be anywhere near the levers of power in this country.”


    Matt Drudge says he has also been Targeted
    Matt Drudge Warns Gov’t Wants To Shut Him Down: “A Supreme Court Justice Told Me To My Face, It Is Over”

    Alex Jones has several news clips where he is attacked by the propagandist media.

  73. Gail Combs says:

    Here is the excerpts from the Sundance Article.
    The U.S. Media Has Fully Weaponized – A Remarkable Thing To Witness…

    …We would be remiss if we didn’t draw attention to one of the brutally obvious WikiLeak releases which highlight just how far the corporate media agenda has been exposed.

    Last night we noted two of the WikiLeak emails (Here and Here) directly aligned with Newsmax and the founder/owner of the organization, Chris Ruddy. Rather than re-write the entire expose’, 100PercentFedUp has a good outline.

    Like the Fox News/Wall Street Journal [Murdoch] expose’ from last year, the Newsmax issue surrounds immigration reform and the hidden agenda of Mr. Ruddy to support the Gang of Eight Amnesty Bill.

    John Podesta and Chris Ruddy were exchanging emails while discussing the failed 2014 House of Representatives support for the Senate Go8 bill.

    What you find within the entire set of emails and the accompanying storyline is that NewsMax was supporting immigration/amnesty while putting on a “conservative” ruse. The “Denis” in the email is Denis McDonough, President Obama’s Chief of Staff, aka ‘the White House fixer’….

    It is not accidental that almost all of the “Never Trumpers” came directly from inside this consortium of “conservative” media enterprises. It was all a total ruse. Within the latest WikiLeak revelations Newsmax is merely exposed as being part of that larger corporate Wall Street group and agenda….

    When Donald Trump announced: The Wall, and strict immigration enforcement, he triggered the jaw-agape responses from all of those aforementioned voices. Trump’s push-back against the hidden agenda, which also contained millions of dollars in expenditures/investments, was the initial impetus behind the never Trump movement.

    Quite a ride, huh?

  74. Gail Combs says:

    Well, not only has Hillary (and Soros) pushed Russia towards war and in return for over $145 million donated to the Clinton Foundation, approved the Rosatom deal, which gave Russia control over about 20 percent of U.S. uranium. She has made D@MN sure they have a good chance of winning a nuclear war by giving them the design parameters.

    And never forget China, lurking in the background. China, who HATES our Guts.

    Good Ole’ Billy gave them the keys to our nuclear arsenal and delivery systems.

    Clinton: Chasing the Dragon

    ….Bill Clinton took contributions he knew came from China, and played another angle as well. US companies wanted to sell China military technology, but the sales were prohibited by law. Economic sanctions for the Tiananmen square massacre and restrictions on technology exports prevented these companies from selling China the armaments they wanted.

    In return for campaign contributions, the President shifted regulation of technology exports from the State Department to the free-wheeling Commerce department. The administration also relaxed export controls and allowed corporations to decide if their technology transfers were legal or not. When easing restrictions wasn’t enough, Clinton signed waivers that simply circumvented the law. The President’s waivers allowed the export of machine tools, defense electronics, and even a communications system for the Chinese Air Force.

    Bernard Schwartz and Michael Armstrong, the CEOs of Loral and Hughes, each donated over one million dollars to Clinton’s re-election campaign. These companies had an interest in seeing China develop reliable missiles to loft their satellites into orbit. Clinton arranged direct talks between Bernard Schwartz and a Chinese general to improve China’s rocket technology. Michael Armstrong was made head of the Export Advisory Council. Both companies were allowed to upgrade the launching and guidance of China’s missiles.

    Clinton even involved the Department of Energy, caretaker of our nuclear weapons, in his fundraising schemes. In 1994 and ’95 then Energy Secretary Hazel O’Leary accompanied Johnny Chung, John Huang, Charlie Trie, and Bernard Schwartz on trade missions to China. Shortly afterward the DOE relaxed security at US weapons labs. Wen Ho Lee, an ethnic Chinese physicist assigned to Los Alamos, illegally transferred data on nuclear warheads to his private computer files.

    In June of 1995, the CIA learned that China had stolen the crown jewels of our nuclear arsenal, including the neutron bomb and the W-88 miniaturized warhead. Later that year National Security Advisor Anthony Lake is briefed on the thefts. He is replaced on the Security Council by Sandy Berger, a former lobbyist for the Chinese government. In June of 1996, before Bill Clinton’s re-election, the FBI opens a formal investigation into the theft of US nuclear weapon designs.

    Proof of China’s military intentions came in March of 1996, on the eve of Taiwan’s first democratic elections. China used the threat of force to intimidate the island nation into electing a pro-Beijing candidate. Military maneuvers included bombing runs and launching ballistic missiles that impacted within twenty miles of Taiwan. When the US sent an aircraft carrier into the Taiwan Straits, a Chinese general threatened to “rain down nukes upon Los Angeles”.

    In 1997, news of the campaign finance scandal reached the press. Clinton claimed he was “appalled” to learn he had received illegal contributions from China. As the Justice Department began investigating, over one hundred suspects fled the country or refused to testify. Despite FBI recommendations and congressional protests, Janet Reno refused to appoint an independent counsel.

    Then the press learned that China had stolen nuclear weapon designs from US research labs. The Clinton administration downplayed and even denied reports that any nuclear secrets were stolen, but this scandal was too big to ignore. Congress began a formal investigation by forming the Cox committee. The administration was forced to reveal the extent of China’s nuclear espionage, but they insisted Clinton had no previous knowledge. Sandy Berger even swore under oath that the President was not told about nuclear thefts until 1998, three years after the fact…..

    How ANYONE who values their life could vote for Clinton is completely beyond my comprehension. These SJW snowflakes must really live in an alternate universe where fairies grant wishes and unicorns play.

  75. Gail Combs says:

    Yeah Larry I love the weasel words.
    “. . . are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts…”

    And we have already seen just how ‘nonpolitical’ the Department of Justice, the FBI and the CIA is (Operation Mockingbird) We have also seen how the US government ignores ALL the laws broken by the Clintons.

  76. pg sharrow says:

    The upper levels of the Federal Government are riddled with “Fellow Travellers”. This has been the case at least since the FDR administration. The US has been the most important prize in the world since the start of the 20th century…pg

  77. Larry Ledwick says:

    Finally found a media outlet discussing her launch reaction time Gaff.

    The key parameters regarding nuclear response are classified at the most sensitive level possible, formerly the launch options and responses were part of the SIOP (Single Integrated Operations Plan) which was literally the most closely held secret document in the U. S. government. In 2003 they changed the naming to OPLAN (“Operations Plan” followed by a number) Like the SIOP it is considered a Top Secret Special Access Program document and requires “need to know” to be cleared to see its contents.


    If we get in a Nuclear shooting war with either Russia or China, it will be to a very large extent the fault of both of the Clintons as they have been a walking security leak for decades.

  78. Larry Ledwick says:

    Just leave this here on accepting election results.
    Note also that there was considerable talk that Kennedy stole the election in 1960 in Illinois and Texas but Nixon refused to challenge the results.


  79. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmmm — well maybe this explains a few things Rice has said, just having LSD flashbacks?


  80. Another Ian says:

    Nice comment here


    “If progressives didn’t have double standards, they would have no standards at all.”

  81. Another Ian says:


    “Another Ian says:
    20 October 2016 at 10:16 am

    Re the response time – like Behghazi “what does it matter” ”

    Thinking the worst possible truth to “What does it matter”

    I suppose it wouldn’t if you knew that the timeing was already public knowledge

  82. Larry Ledwick says:

    Possible obstruction of a congressional investigation for Clinton and her server company?

  83. Larry Ledwick says:

    Fun little audio track for a phone call from a Mexican immigrant which has become an American citizen and he is supporting of Trump.


  84. Gail Combs says:

    Heck our bank teller is a Mexican who became a citizen and she hates the illegals and is voting for Trump.

    Those who went through the process legally view illegals the same way you would a line jumper after waiting since dawn for a popular rock concert.

    Actually legal immigrants know many illegals are drug dealers and criminals and they came to the USA to get away from them!

  85. Zeke says:

    WikiLeaks Retweeted
    Oct 18
    #Assange: false accusation of pedophilia & taking US$1million from Russia.

    WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks Oct 19
    Internet sleuths connect Clinton to mysterious intelligence contractor associated with Assange false accusations

    WikiLeaks Retweeted
    Fox News Video ‏@foxnewsvideo 2h2 hours ago
    New WikiLeaks: A king’s $12M for access to @HillaryClinton |

    WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks Oct 18
    Qatar gifts Bill Clinton $1,000,000 for his birthday. Arms flow increases 1,482%:

    Comment: Fox and IBT have grasped the nettle.

  86. H.R. says:

    Forget the polls, folks. I had the perfect sample size of exactly one perfectly unbiased and uncontaminated subject who watched the debate. It’s like someone from Mars watched the 3rd debate and then gave their opinion.

    o Female, single (widowed)
    o 94-years old, still fairly sharp, mentally (and not on any medications)
    o Hears well, but does not see well due to macular degeneration
    o Some college (2 years)
    o Deeply religious, Christian, but not affiliated with one of the traditional religions nor could be termed evangelical
    o Hasn’t watched TV in 5-6 years
    o Has not listened to radio in many years (prefers live or recorded music and does not care for talk radio)
    o Hasn’t read a newspaper since eyes went bad about 5-6 years ago
    o Homeowner and sole occupant of same
    o Income from SSI, real estate rentals, stock investments about $50k/yr
    o Good awareness of tax, medicaid, and SSI issues
    o Votes every election, straight Republican ticket, so doesn’t necessarily study up on candidates

    My mom’s house is being painted so she stayed with my wife and me this week until yesterday. We were watching the 3rd debate and have a large screen TV so mom could see that it was a man and a woman debating and that there was a moderator. Took her a while to catch that it was a split screen and the candidates weren’t actually face-to-face, which gives you an idea of her visual acuity. So, looks weren’t a factor. Didn’t know which was the Democrat or Republican as she has been busy with her house and we haven’t discussed politics much. She’ll pull the lever for straight R) ticket anyway.

    Spoiler alert – Trump won the ‘Martian’ vote
    Trump likes:
    Sounded Presidential, confident, didn’t interrupt so much, firm and clear points with a not-too-fast delivery, Trump economic policy, point about paid thugs and referral to video evidence, border security, job creation, constitutional appointments.

    Trump dislikes: not much to say

    Hillary likes:
    None, really on the policy side. Mom actually had a LOL moment when Hillary brought up “free” college. Thought the groping issues sounded fake with so many coming all at once just before the election and hadn’t heard a thing about Trump issues in any time prior to the election.

    Hillary dislikes:
    Talking over the moderator and Trump, interrupts to Trump and moderator, sound of Hillary’s voice and the negative emotional overtones (smugness, mean, shrewish, defensive, anger in voice), didn’t really get Hillary’s message for all the talking over the other two and mom thought Hillary was jumping around and talking so fast that mom never was really clear on what Hillary was trying to get across. Did NOT like Hillary’s promise to appoint pro-abortion Justices and did not buy the promise to uphold the 2nd Amendment.

    If anyone has questions about my ‘Martian’ mom in order to clarify that she was an ideal sample size of one, I’ll be happy to answer if I can.

    Mrs. H.R. and I will be packing and settling in the house-sitter today and on the road to South Carolina tomorrow. (Will wave to Gail and hubby as we pass through N.C.) I’ll not be back to regular reading and commenting here until maybe Sunday or Monday for sure.

    For those who were interested in the ‘Martian’ vote in the polls, thanks for hanging in there through this long comment and please feel free to ask questions. I’ll filter only detailed financial and identifying details, naturally, to protect the ‘Martian.’ Challenges to mom’s biases are welcome as I may be biased or have assumed something not in evidence about her perfection as a low-info voter proxy.

  87. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting move going on with Reddit they have started a project on election fraud to force counties using Soros controlled voting machines to use their fall back system due to conflict of interest concerns.

  88. Larry Ledwick says:

    Not sure how I ended up pasting the whole page there in the above link?

    Here is the counter move by TPTB

  89. Larry Ledwick says:

    Dick Morris short video on how the Clintons turned in to a corruption machine.

  90. Larry Ledwick says:
  91. Zeke says:

    Have a good and safe trip HR and Mrs. HR. Love the Martian.

    WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 4h4 hours ago
    Top Swedish arms dealer Marcus Wallenberg “accompanies” Swedish PM to Saudi this weekend for “official visit”

  92. Zeke says:

    I need to be honest about my own reversal on Julian Assange, and I also am attempting to understand his perspective — which is a work in progress.

    As every one knows, he was a safely anti-American hacker until recently. There are statements in his essays which indicated that he wanted to make it so difficult for the US to act that it would collapse. He has in fact revealed in his previous leaks the names of friends, dissidents, and allies of the US in various middle eastern countries, who then were killed by repressive regimes. We know he has revealed personal information on soldiers.

    Yet now, it is evident that he does not hate America enough to give us over to the Cs, and esp. HRC. So there is a limit to his hatred of the US, for which I am now exceedingly thankful. Why does he draw the line at allowing the US to be destroyed by the Cs? That surely would be the most tortuous, horrible death imaginable for our country–to have them stripping and selling our power and infrastructure, and signing up to every treaty they can find as fast as they can. It may be that he is a supporter of the Bernie Sanders/Jeremy Corbyn wing of the democrats/Labour, and that is what motivates him. I don’t know. Perhaps he sees them as the legitimate left. Evidence for this is that he leaked the DNC Bern Suppression, and also that he is offering a reward for similar leaks on Corbyn Suppression within the Labour Party.

    I will say that he is not as incoherent or blinded by hatred for the free English-speaking countries as I thought he was. He gives excellent interviews, is informed and not extreme, and does his utmost to protect his sources while answering questions. He is a good snake-handler with a now hostile and increasingly hateful media.

    There is a good biography of Assange’s early life on one of the UK outlets. What stood out to me is that his mother had to move a lot to avoid his father, so he was basically homeschooled and loved computers from an early age. His first computer was a Commodore, with which he set to work at hacking other Commodores!

    Commodore 64 commercial (1985)

    dur 32 sec

    So in short he views Donald J Trump as a “pied piper” candidate, put in place to help the Cs consolidate power:

    WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 16h16 hours ago
    There is no US election. There is power consolidation. Rigged primary, rigged media and rigged ‘pied piper’ candidate drive consolidation.

  93. Zeke says:

    Maybe he has never even met any of us Martians: everyday Americans, Protestants, or Patriots, but we seem to be travelling together on the same road for the time being. I check for his safety and comments every morning.

    If you are out there, Thank you.

  94. Another Ian says:

    “Rod Stuart
    October 22, 2016 at 9:51 am · Reply

    Trump and The Pope….
    Seeking a weekend break from his campaign rallies, Donald Trump jetted to his yacht, which was docked off the coast of Italy. He invited Pope Francis and the press corps on board for a Saturday afternoon cruise. It was a rather windy day. The Pope’s little hat, his zucchetto, was blown from his head and into the water.

    A crewman began lowering a boat to retrieve the zucchetto. Trump told the crewman not to bother. Trump climbed down the yacht’s ladder, walked across the waves, picked up the zucchetto, walked back to the yacht, and handed it to the Pope. The Pope and the press corps were amazed! Donald Trump could actually walk on water!

    Speculation immediately began as to how ABC, CNN, NBC, The Washington Post and New York Times would report this miraculous event to the rest of the world. The next morning the New York Times headline read . . . .


    Just to remind non Americans-the biggest contributor to the Clinton Campaign is Time Warner (CNN owners)!!”



    Also FYI


  95. Larry Ledwick says:

    Trump’s speech in Gettysburg
    Fast forward to :
    1:26 Rudi intro
    1:36 DJT speech proper

  96. Larry Ledwick says:

    DJT lays out a Contract between him and Americans in the Gettysburg address on the principle actions he will initiate during his first 100 days if elected.

  97. Zeke says:

    Larry Ledwick says, “Here is the contract:”

    He has also said that his first act in the Oval Office would be to cancel all of Pres. Obama’s Executive Orders. There is a video in which he says that. But I found this one:

  98. TedL says:

    Perhaps OT but related to Podesta – see the latest from Jo Nova:

    US donors funding shut down of Australian mines, ports and rail, approved by Hillary’s right-hand-man?

    The Australian has been busy exposing how the supposedly grassroots anti-coal groups in Australia are being funded by the US and with the full knowledge and approval of John Podesta who used to be a special counselor to Barak Obama and is now Hillary’s campaign chairman. Info thanks to Wikileaks.
    . . .
    The emails show that the funders included the Sandler Foundation, the Sea Change Foundation, the Tilia Fund, the Growald Family Fund and the Flora Family Foundation.

    In other words, the legal challenges have not come from Mackay, Bowen or Townsville or from local landholders.

    Instead they have come from Boston, Boulder and Berkeley from vanity pose foundations uninterested in the double digit unemployment rates in northern Queensland towns or energy access in India.


  99. Another Ian says:



    “US donors funding shut down of Australian mines, ports and rail, approved by Hillary’s right-hand-man?”


    “And Hillary wants us to believe that Trump is “risky” and “unpredictable” for foreign relations? This kind of industrial sabotage is a good way to hobble the competition — though playing mean and deceitful with your dedicated allies usually works better if done from secure computers. For Hillary it’s such cosmic bad luck that she keeps employing people who say deplorable, underhanded and dishonorable things in emails and on video. A pack of cheats. Naturally she’ll sack the lot of them, and make it clear to US donors that this sort of thing is never to happen again: “Think of the children in India”. “

  100. Another Ian says:


    “Psalmon says:
    October 23, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    Hillary’s last new slogan before the vote:

    The problem with America…It’s full of Americans!

  101. Larry Ledwick says:

    I think you will find that those actions are “Soros friendly” actions.
    (ie he is positioned to profit from those events/actions.)

    I have come to the conclusion that Soros and the Saudie’s are the hidden hands behind most of what she does but like all hired guns she is an equal opportunity destroyer if the price is right.

    Want to buy a copper mine in Africa or South America, (china) just throw some money at the Clinton foundation and magically the US takes a position that favors that move for you.

  102. Larry Ledwick says:

    I think this is one of my all time favorite campaign signs.


  103. Larry Ledwick says:

    Another case of improper influence on the FBI investigation of HRC

  104. catweazle666 says:

    “I think this is one of my all time favorite campaign signs.”

    My favourite slogan was for the second round of the French Presidential elections and went:

    “Votez l’escroc, pas le facho” (Vote for the thief, not the fascist).

    And then the french have the damn gall to sneer at other nations’ politicians…

  105. Paul Hanlon says:

    I was mightily impressed with his Gettysburg address. A libertarian’s wet dream. If he carries on in this vein, he might just pull it off even without any more Wikileaks revelations.

  106. A C Osborn says:

    Does anyone know what affect the Wikileaks are having?
    They are being almost completely supressed by the media it make you wonder just how many voters in the US actually know about or have read any of them.

  107. Larry Ledwick says:

    They are having an effect, the major media has effectively made themselves irrelevant, there is a new 600 lb gorilla in the room and it is social media. If anyone is open to finding that information it is widely distributed in social media that is willing to contest Hillary’s campaign.

    What I think is happening is the majority of the silent majority Trump voters have gone dark as far as public advocacy, and like a flash mob will suddenly appear on election day. These are folks who have not voted in years or perhaps ever because they felt it was a waste of time seeing no difference between the two major parties since they were really just pretending to be different with minor differences in window dressing.

    During the Obama election campaign if you posted anything even remotely anti Obama on social media you would get hammered by your friends and strangers. Now I post things social media and rarely get more than a few comments and those that do comment are more than likely agreeing with how bad a candidate she is.

    People are just grit your teeth and shut up angry, and are going to serve this dish cold on election day. The democrats are pushing for early voting to help sell their pitch that HRC is winning but I think a lot of folks like myself will not drop their mail in ballot until just before election day. I don’t want to do anything that motivates HRC candidates to show up at the polls. It would be especially nice if it is a stormy period to suppress their turn out because the conservative voters are much more likely to get to the polls regardless. If the HRC voters believe the polls that Hillary is winning (which if you unskew them is totally fabricated) they might be sort of Ho Hum about voting and not make the effort.

    Clearly the Trump voters who stand in line for 6-7 hours to get into his events will show up on election day.

    I think there is a good chance this will be a landslide election against HRC that as far as the media and pundits are concerned came out of left field leaving them wondering what happened.

  108. Larry Ledwick says:

    Little item on America vs Russia cyber action from Germany.


  109. Larry Ledwick says:

    @A C Osborn

    This is the narrative they are trying to sell with their cooked polls:

    As they get closer to election day in the interest of their own credibility (the polling organizations) they will have to take the skew out of the polls. This is supposed to happen after a lot of Democrates and Hillary supporters have already voted in early voting. But the result of that will (if they do that) be that Trump suddenly comes out of the backfield and around the the turn into the home stretch with a huge charge (as the polls begin to show the real numbers). By then it will be too late for the early voters to switch and perhaps too late to motivate lazy voters to get to the polls.

    If they don’t fix the skew in the polls they will look like total chumps and incompetents for not seeing the real numbers.

    Right now Hillary is shown winning in the polls by 2% when groups that support her are over sampled from 5% – 12%. That means she is really losing by 3% or more in a straight up contest. Even with massive voter fraud they can only swing the vote by maybe 2%.

    The fact HRC is not spending much money on major rallies and ad spends tells me she will just rake in as much money as possible and then retain it after she loses and laugh all the way to the bank.

    That is why I think the outcome will go for Trump in an historic landslide, or it will be a close election with massive voter fraud by Hillary and likely Trump will still win.

  110. A C Osborn says:

    Larry it looks like the Dems are trying to pre-empt some of the Wikileaks expose’s of Clinton’s Graft with this piece.

    They are really ramping up the dirt.
    I think Donald will really have to watch his back if he actually wins, I can see a Kennedy solution being used against him.

  111. Larry Ledwick says:

    They are really ramping up the dirt.
    I think Donald will really have to watch his back if he actually wins, I can see a Kennedy solution being used against him.

    Many have voiced those concerns but the outcome of such an action would not be what TPTB want or expect. It would be a very very big mistake.

  112. Gail Combs says:

    I posted this before but it gives you a good idea of why the polls are bogus especially since only 6% of America actually believe the MSM.

    This is Hillary’s base, women and gays and they prefer Trump!

    Real Housewives of NYC fan
    August 4, 2016 at 12:55 am
    …super lib host Andy Cohen has a show called Watch What Happens Live where he has cast members and super lib celebrities on to recap and chat. Last month they did a poll so amazing I saved it to screen shot for CTH but haven’t gotten around to it. He smugly asked on the phone poll who people were voting for, Hillary or Trump. The results? Trump 65% Hillary 35%. He looked totally shocked and so did his guests.
    Cohen was so shocked he said he’d do it every month until the election. So tonight was the follow up poll. Given today’s rounds of false polls I expected a complete reversal, figuring he’d rig the votes. Results: Trump 62% Hillary 38% – so a 3% dip for Trump and gain for Hillary. After the recent DNC, the #KhanJob, Babygate, and naked Melania, on a channel known for it’s pro gay and lib programming, only a 3% gain for Hilldog. Again, shocked guests but the host not as much. Cohen went on to say he would stop making fun of Trump bc his Bravo Real Housewives fans are clearly Trump voters….
    This is Yuge, IMO, because as you say most viewers of the Bravo shows are women and lgbtq.

    Andy Cohen show is called Watch What Happens Live.

    If you use the ‘Social Media Poll’ from the beginning of August it shows a similar skew.
    Facebook Likes
    Trump = 10,174,358 = 65.4%
    Clinton = 5,385,959 = 34.6%

    Facebook Live Stream
    …………….. likes ………. shares ………… views
    Trump = 165,000…….18,167 ……….1,500,000
    Clinton = 11,000…ZERO…321,000
    This shows just how much voters lack enthusiasm is for Hitlery.

    Youtube Live Stream
    Trump = 30,000
    Clinton = 500

    Twitter Followers
    Trump = 10.6 million =56.7%
    Clinton = 8.1 million = 43.3%

    Reddit Subscribers (the young voters)
    Trump = 197,896 = 71.3 %
    Clinton = 24,429 = 8.8 %
    Hillary for Prison = 55,228 = 19.9 % (Jill Stein/not voting?)

    Instagram Followers
    Trump = 2.2 million = 55.0 %
    Clinton = 1.8 million = 45.0 %

    This shows Trump is the one who probably leads by double digits.

    1. The DNC Wikileaks and the treatment of Bernie supporters at the DNC convention solidified the HATE of Hillary by ~1/3 or more of the Democratic base. These are the young voters, under 35, who are busy going through the Wikileaks and finding more dirt on Clinton. They are NOT happy about Hillary calling for a drone strike on Assange or Kerry pressuring Ecuador to deny Assange access to the internet. They are NOT happy Obummer turned the internet over to the UN. They are NOT happy about Facebook, Twitter and even Reddit censoring people. And that displeasure will be expressed by the big F.U. Vote from those who generally do not vote.

    2. Although Union leaders have finally come out in support of Hillary, the rank and file see the trade deals kill their jobs and support Trump. Again this is a large chunk of the traditional Democrat voter base.
    AFL-CIO Pres: ‘Probably Every’ Union Member Says ‘Amen’ After Hearing Donald Trump Blast Unfair Trade Deals

    SEIU Union Leader: My Blue-Collar Members Support Trump’s Message

    3. Trump had talked to religious leaders well before he ever ran and I am talking YEARS before. The outcome was the formation of a group of religious leaders. This came out at the Midwest Vision and Values Pastors and Leadership Conference in Cleveland Heights, Ohio.
    Obama was advised to switch to Christianity as a Community Organizer because the Church is very important to many of the inner city blacks WHO VOTE. Trump also supported black groups well before he ran for president. And most important he has gone into the inner cities and LISTENED to the blacks. Having Dr Carson along didn’t hurt when he visited Detroit, or having boxing promoter Don King introduce him at the Midwest Leadership Conference in Cleveland Heights. (I love Don King he is such a character.)
    Farrakhan to Obama: Let Trump Do Want He Wants, You Failed Inner City Blacks

    Significant Surge in Black Support For Donald Trump Underlines Current Democrat Strategy…

    Trump Gets UNEXPECTED Announcement About Blacks… Hillary Clinton Is Scared!

    Rebuffed Again – Clinton Speaks To Empty Seats in Charlotte, NC, AME Church…This was a captive audience of religious blacks and they did not show for her key note speech!

  113. Gail Combs says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    “Many have voiced those concerns but the outcome of such an action would not be what TPTB want or expect. It would be a very very big mistake.”

    I agree. The Globalist elite, the US government and the MSM are now seen by many as completely corrupt if not down right evil. If anything happens to Trump the situation will blow up in their faces and it will NOT be orchestrated theatre like Ferguson or Charlotte. It will not be random but targeted.

  114. Larry Ledwick says:

    Now Trump goes for a direct connection unfiltered by the major media to his supporters


  115. Another Ian says:


    The only things I have ever bet on are agricultural – rain, prices etc. Got badly caught by government interference. Never have bet on a race horse – or any other such.’

    But (IIRC) I did see that the bookies the other day had Hillary at about $1.60 and Trump at around $4.60.

    So seems to me do your punt on Trump and then lay off on Hillary to just cover that in case she wins.

    And if she wins that will likely be the only time you’ll be ahead for at least 4 years

  116. Gail Combs says:

    Another Ian,

    I think the bookies are looking at the agenda polls and not what is really going on.

  117. Gail Combs says:

    Also our old friend Richard Stallman (yeah THAT Stallman — rms of Free Sofware Foundation) is voting Jill Stein.

  118. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 19 minutes ago

    Just interviewed the guys from Reddit. They are telling me a lot of former Bernie supporters are coming over to Trump and enthusiasm is high

  119. Larry Ledwick says:

    Voting cohorts are likely to change radically this year, any polling based on prior demographics is broken and will give flawed results.


  120. Larry Ledwick says:

    Bill Mitchell on twitter did an interview with some moderators on the sub reddit for DJT


    They say they are hearing a lot of feed back on the reddit that both Bernie and Democrat are coming over to DJT now that they have seen some of the dirty tricks being played by the democrats and the actual policy statement which have come out from Trump.

  121. gallopingcamel says:

    @Gail Combs,
    Those social media statistics are pretty impressive.

    Today Rush Limbaugh made the same points I mentioned a few days ago. I implore those of you who live in states that allow early voting to find out how this year’s voter turnout compares with 2014 and 2012.

    In Brevard county Florida more people have already voted than voted in 2014. Based of the pattern o0f early voting our election officials are predicting a 93% voter turnout compared to 82% in 2012.

    Rush Limbaugh suggests that the early voting is high because “Independents” like me have decided to vote this year. As an “Independent” I would cheerfully vote for any presidential candidate who supported even one idea I care about. For example:

    1. Against the bank bailout.
    2. For balancing the federal budget and thereby preventing a runaway debt problem.
    3. For local control of K-12 schools.

    No presidential candidate since 2004 ran on any of theses issues or anything else I care about so I did not vote in 2004, 2008, 2012.

    Rush Limbaugh suggests that the high early voter turnout is not evidence of Democrats “voting early and voting often” as many of us assume. He suggests that it is evidence of “Independents” like me showing up to vote after a long slumber. Let’s hope there are enough of us to elect Donald Trump.

    Rush also said that most “Independents” are Republicans who resigned from the GOP because RINOs control the agenda. These people are “Off the Radar” because they have not voted in a while but you can be sure that very few will vote for Hillary Clinton.

    because we could n

  122. Glenn999 says:

    How about a separate thread on documented/suspected cases of voter fraud/cheating, irregularities, etc.?

  123. E.M.Smith says:


    Sounds like an interesting thread, but from where would I get information? Or maybe just open it up for a “you post it” collection…


    one wonders if there’s a real 93% turnout what will happen to the 10% “overvote” and what happens when 103% of “all registered voters” have voted…

  124. p.g.sharrow says:

    I took part in one of those operations. 140% of the towns population voted! The mayor and his assistant, that lost the election, went to prison for mail fraud, not vote fraud. We did a better job of covering our tracks. Our operation was better then his. It was the only way to break the back of his machine that packed the ballot box with absentee votes. The State and Fed. AGs refused to do anything about his criminal activities as long as he was elected to office, so we unelected him…pg

  125. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmm interesting – too bad so much time has passed possibly leading to backup retention cycles timing out. (often backup copies are only retained for a certain period of time to avoid burying the server in old files. Old files not required to be “keep forever” like financial files frequently get over written after 1 year, 2 years, 5 years etc. effectively “shredding” the forensic data that would have been available if they had been promptly retrieved and archived, but by allowing destruction by “retention time out” no one is culpable of destroying evidence as it is an automated process in many IT shops.


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  127. E.M.Smith says:


    As of SarBox, there was a corporate AND lawyer requirement for email retention. 5 years corp, 7 years lawyers IIRC. NetApp came out with a custom appliance that can not be erased even by the systems admin for email “compliance”. Seems having the CIO / head of IT up for Jail Time for failure to retain even if it was an underling that did the deletion against his orders got a lot of folks nervous…

    Sooo… depending on how the backups and email services were set up, it could be kept a very very long time…

    And we also know just how sticky fingered Google is about holding data forever, so I’d expect their “cloud” servers have very long retention backups…

    BTW, many have now changed from the old “Towers of Hanoi” method (where dailys get cycled and weeklies get cycled and eventually this degrades the ‘granularity’ to where only the annual full dump is retained) to differential archives where any CHANGE is stored compared to a base copy. 100% granularity… (My group got 4 patents on that, but they have expired now and you have folks like Carbonite providing similar services to home gamers). Storage is dirt cheap, labor to DECIDE what to store or keep is expensive. The “cheap” choice is “store it all and buy more disks or tape”… Many companies are very cheap…

    Per the Hillary story: Interesting POV on the Clintons… I wonder how much is simple truth and how much is ‘pay back’… (and I hope her life insurance is paid up and does NOT have an exemption for ‘suicide’… especially if you ‘shoot yourself’ in the back 5 times…

  128. Larry Ledwick says:

    Now that we have the wiki leaks emails and the project veritas videos to corroborate the intent behind organized violence it might be ripe to file RICO charges against the Clinton campaign and the DNC and related PACs which promote this sort of behavior.

    This is exactly the same sort of intimidation tactics used by unions to suppress opposition to union sponsored projects.

    We see the same thing here, it is republican candidate signs and banners which get defaced, slashed or torn down, never the democratic candidates.

    This sort of behavior is also probably a primary cause for the stealth monster vote of the disenfranchised that appears to be forming to vote for Trump and will be a complete head scratcher to the media when it happens.

  129. Gail Combs says:

    Larry, great minds think alike….

    I was thinking that the people hurt/frightened at Trump Rallies should bring a Big A$$ lawsuit against the DNC and individually against each of the DNC operatives AND the MSM….

    Wouldn’t that be great optics for election cycle 2018.

  130. Gail Combs says:

    Another Ian,
    I do not think Pickeringpost understands just what Trump has going for him.

    First the polls in the media are AGENDA polls used to make people think Hillary is winning while she is actually losing.

    Second all Trump did was jump in front of the angry mob and start leading the way. Do not forget that in 2010 voters were split 1/3 Dem, 1/3 Repub and 1/3 TEA PARTY according to Rasmussen polls. Trump gets most of the Repubs and Tea Party voters.

    Third, the DNC wikileaks, death of Seth Rich, and attacks on Assange has really angered the Bernie’s young voters and many of the middle of the road ‘Reagan’ Democrats.

    Fourth the Monster Vote — the people who have not voted in recent elections or who have never voted are registering and voting. This is the wild card. Only 57.1% of voters turned out in 2008 and 54.9% in 2008. That leaves over 40% of eligibles who normally do not vote. This is the group who Trump is capturing because he is not another lawyer turned professional politician/globalist and he can SEE the problems they see and offers concrete solutions.

    5/07/2016 The Voting Bloc EVERY Pundit Never Discusses – “The Monster Vote”….

    ….No-one is discussing the 100 million, the silent majority, the non-voting bloc, the largest single voting bloc in the United States. However, there are signs the monster vote is active and engaged. Visible signs the professional political class would rather you not contemplate….

    5/09/2016 …The Monster Vote Is Very Real…

    … in December ’15, and January ’16 we predicted something else, something even more radical. We predicted record-breaking voter turnout in the primary and general election of 2016….

    However, because there are so many naysayers, we asked for independent review of our predictions and analysis. Many of you will remember – Nick H, a statistician by trade, took on the challenge and expanded on our theory. In February, we developed a few simple predictions for the primary and general election.

    We can now look at the 2016 voter results and compare them to our tripwire predictions.

    Prediction -vs Results #1:

    In 2012 Georgia had 901,470 votes in the Republican primary. The % increase in the South is +45%, we add another 405,661 votes to give us a predicted total of 1.3 million votes in Georgia for the 2016 Republican primary vote.

    We predicted a republican primary turnout of 1,300,000 (1.3 million) in Georgia, estimating the increase at 45%. –LINK–
    Actual republican turnout in Georgia was 1,295,964 (1.295 million) the increase was 44.7% – LINK –

    Prediction -vs- Results #2:

    In 2008 slightly less than 22 million voted in the Republican primary. In 2012 just over 19 million voted in the primary.

    We predicted a Republican voter turnout model of 29,528,228 for 2016 (an increase of almost 50%). -LINK–
    Actual Republican Voter turnout so far 26,561,719 (an increase almost 50%). –LINK–
    [Final Total: 31,183,841 Trump: 14,015,993]

    Prediction -vs- Results #3:

    In 2008 more than 38 million Democrats voted in the primary (38,111,341). There was no Democrat primary in 2012.

    We predicted a Democrat voter turnout model of 28,450,721 in the 2016 primary (a decrease of around 30%) –LINK–
    Actual Democrat Voter turnout so far 22,355,221 (a decrease of around 30%) – LINK– […]

    8/26/2016 More confirmation of the Monster Vote. Media Report: 25% of Current Florida Primary Ballots Never Voted Before, EVER…
    9/19/2016 Trump Shatters All Prior GOP Fundraising Records – 2.1 Million Small Donations in 90 Days…

    These new voters are not Hillary voters.

    10/11/2016 “Trumpocrats” – Jaw Dropping Numbers of Democrats Supporting Donald Trump

    6/30/2016 Rasmussen National Poll: Trump 43%, Clinton 39% – Trump Leads Nationally With Independents and Hispanics…

    5/13/2016 National Poll: 1500 Registered Voters – Donald Trump Wins Hispanic Voters: Trump 55%, Clinton 45%…

    9/18/2016 Significant Surge in Black Support For Donald Trump Underlines Current Democrat Strategy…

    I think Trump has a darn good chance of winning if he can keep the voter fraud under control.

  131. Larry Ledwick says:

    A Meme from Twitter:

  132. Gail Combs says:

    Seems like they are channelling Jill Stein. She doesn’t like Trump but she is scared to death of a Hillary election, as is anyone else who is informed and sane.

  133. Larry Ledwick says:

    And now the CYA begins — It appears the FBI has figured out that it is very likely that Trump will win the election, and they will have a new boss with a different agenda —- so —–


  134. Larry Ledwick says:

    Stock market is reacting negatively to the news of the FBI reopening the investigation.

  135. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter
    Al Boe ‏@AlBoeNEWS 9m9 minutes ago

    #BREAKING: U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan renews call to suspend Clinton’s classified briefings until email matter is resolved – BNO

  136. Larry Ledwick says:

    This will also allow the Democrats and the RINO’s to claim her massive loss was due to these late breaking developments and will allow them to wash their hands of participating in the attempt to sell damaged merchandise to the public.

  137. Larry Ledwick says:

    The only thing I can think of to improve this story would be if Hillary, Bill and Chelsa asked for asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy to avoid prosecution.

  138. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like NBC may have just taken in the welcome mat too. If you have ever worked in government you have seen this dance before its called throw Grandma in front of the bus so I don’t look so bad.


  139. Larry Ledwick says:

    Not directly related but might be symptomatic of a general implosion of the current administration along with the Clinton campaign. Maybe all the chickens are coming home at the same time because these players are all tied together in a web of govenment abuse of power and behind the scenes games.


  140. Larry Ledwick says:

    Speaker Ryan’s statement on the reopening of the investigation and her security briefings.

  141. Larry Ledwick says:

    One of the funnier tweets:
    Eddy Elfenbein ‏@EddyElfenbein 1 hour ago
    I’m trying to figure out when the FBI news broke.

  142. A C Osborn says:

    Larry, I think it was more likely the Subpoena handedto the FBI last week that caused the re-opening.

  143. @AC subpoena? This site scrolls so fast I may have missed the discussion (and Drudge is over the top)…

  144. A C Osborn says:

    There is a video up higher
    sabretoothed says:
    18 October 2016 at 9:47 am
    where the FBI sent a young no nothing FBI agent to Congress with a totally redacted, partial copy of their report on Clinton’s email Server Investigation.
    They handed him his arse on a plate and a Subpoena to the FBI asking for an unredacted complete copy of the report or face the consequences.
    The next step would be a Subpoena to the FBI Boss himself who signed off the report.

  145. E.M.Smith says:

    @A.C. Osborn:

    Don’t you just luv the stuff that Sabertoothed pops up?


    It’s time for all good rats to run for the liveboats and chew any Clinton Fingers grasping at the gunnels…

    In some ways it is like the “I.T. Guy Loyalty Oath”… you are 100% loyal, up until they throw YOU under the bus, then that “long lost backup tape” is “found”… in Russia… on an opwn server…

  146. Larry Ledwick says:

    They may also be trying to maneuver the timing of an indictment so that Obama can issue a last day pardon if they feel it has reached a point that prosecution is inevitable.

  147. E.M.Smith says:


    I added a sentence to the prior note…

    FWIW, I suspect Comey was playing to avoid the Clinton Pardon possibility in his first round. As of now, the questions are:

    1) Can a pardon be issued for a crime that has not been given a verdict by the court?

    2) Would Obama really want to pardon Hillary? (I think he’d be giving Bernie the DNC Wet Kiss Substitute Candidate embrace…)

    This is Sooo much fun ;-)

  148. Taking advantage of my wife visiting her mom for a couple of weeks to watch a couple of pointless action flicks on the senior discount. I wonder how much the election will have changed in a few hours?

  149. Larry Ledwick says:

    Obama is also implicated since he sent her emails so we are in a situation of —
    “Oh! What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive”

    And yes this is going to be fun to watch all the players squirm and try to find a safe hole to climb into. Now you will find out who really hates each other (Obama and Clinton are only strategic allies, and there is a good amount of bad blood between them so it may be pay back time)

    There may also be knives we don’t even know about still in the sheath so one thing could lead to another and open yet another pandora’s box of problems.

  150. philjourdan says:

    @Larry – the one in the UK? next to Assange?

  151. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes, I was thinking adjacent rooms.

    All kidding aside the Clintons might have to move to a private Caribbean island to avoid prosecution.

  152. Larry Ledwick says:

    Apparently HRC was blind sided by this move from the FBI (political translation = knife in the back)


  153. Gail Combs says:

    Larry, E.M. I was thinking that Clinton, Soros and Obummer would seek asylum with the Saudis…

    Or maybe Egypt. (Snicker)

  154. H.R. (off saltwater fishing in S.C.) says:

    I’m thinking the Clinton’s best move would be to hide out in a trailer park in Arkansas. Who would think to look for them there? Well… perhaps their triple-wide trailer might be a giveaway ;o)

  155. Larry Ledwick says:

    Since we will end up discussing this at some point I suspect:

    Can a president really pardon someone who hasn’t even been charged with a crime?

    Yep. In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power “extends to every offense known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.” (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.) Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.

  156. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Trisha Peach @Ptrishapeach

    Reddit is showing that Obama today quietly cancelled several upcoming Hillary rally appearances. #HillarysEmails

  157. pg sharrow says:

    It appears to me that Comey has realised that a Clinton victory is not a forgone conclusion. He wants to be on the winning side. Maybe he will be the weak link in the Clinton machine’s firewall. The Clinton apparatus is demanding to know the material so that they can build a cover story.
    Weiner and his wife know far too much about the Clinton syndicate…pg

  158. Larry Ledwick says:

    Took a while to find the reddit item about canclled appearances by Obama.
    I think this is what the twitter post was referring to.

  159. Larry Ledwick says:

    WND is suggesting that the issue may be something they reported on Sept 8 of Hillary forwarding marked classified info to unsecure email accounts.


  160. E.M.Smith says:


    That article says Uma was “archiving” clinton eMails to her on her own yahoo account. That’s huge (if true).

    As her closest aide, and probably involved in “questionable” activities, this could be the smoking gun to a lot of shootings… (hopefully only figurative…).

  161. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Stefan Molyneux Retweeted
    Scott Adams ‏@ScottAdamsSays 2h2 hours ago

    Scott Adams Retweeted MicroSpookyLeaks™

    Clinton’s body language and word-choice tell us:
    1) She’s lying about what she knows, and
    2) She thinks she has already lost.

  162. Another Ian says:
  163. David A Anderson says:

    More goverment corruption. This time it’s the O apprently sending billions of federal bank fines to third party political activists.
    Link not working, see FrontPage Mag.

  164. David A Anderson says:
  165. A C Osborn says:

    Clinton is calling for the information of an “Ongoing” Investigation to be released, which is of course illegal and would totally jeopardise that investigation.

  166. A C Osborn says:

    One other thing, here in the UK the MSM and especially the BBC are trying their best to play down any effect this could have on Clinton’s chances.
    There has been absolutely no mention of the fact that the FBI Investigation was under Congress oversight, or that they had been stalling and served with a subpeona and that is the reason Comey wrote to them first.

  167. Larry Ledwick says:

    Great Drain the swamp graphic from twitter and Stefan Molyneux

  168. Larry Ledwick says:

    Another profound video by Stefan Molyneux on immigration and its impact on economic choices, and election outcomes

  169. Zeke says:

    David A Anderson says:
    29 October 2016 at 12:17 pm More goverment corruption. This time it’s the O apprently sending billions of federal bank fines to third party political activists.

    Here’s the interview.
    Schweizer: DOJ settlements funnel money to left-wing groups
    Dur 3:23

  170. Larry Ledwick says:

    If you smell smoke in Washington DC this weekend it will be Obama, Hillary, and Lynch burning their personal records and personal communications devices.


  171. E.M.Smith says:

    We’re over 200 comments with videos, and loading is slowing down… I think I may need to add an extension posting for post-Comey as that pile hits…

  172. Another Ian says:



    This latest MUST be important as it has appeared in the Oz msm. Even made ABC radio news this morning!

  173. Regis Llanfar says:

    That NR article is pretty compelling. And Loretta Lynch is also involved – should Comey decide to pull the trigger he could RICO the whole bunch of them (perhaps get a Tx judge to sign off on the raids). Tough to coordinate such an operation and career suicide, but it’d assuage his mind.

  174. Larry Ledwick says:

    Given he did not tell the white house, attorney general or Hillary’s campaign about this move, I suspect it is a pay back, like he might have gotten a sniff that they were going to throw him under the bus after Hillary got elected or if she failed to get elected. Not to mention the lower level FBI folks are supposedly furious over the earlier no indictment move and might have engaged in a little back room mutiny about going whistle blower if he did not fix it to repair the agencies reputation.

    It was clearly intended to blind side the administration and Hillary — will be interesting to hear the back story in 10-30 years.

  175. Larry Ledwick says:

    One other possibility is that a birdie might have whispered in Comey’s ear that if Trump was elected and a special prosecutor appointed, that he would likely get sucked in as a co-conspirator to the RICO charges that probably result from an uninhibited investigation supported by the POTUS.
    If so he just tossed them out of the life boat to protect himself.

  176. Zeke says:

    One theory is that Comey’s announcement is a distraction from wikileaks — which the pressitutes in the meeja are trying so hard to ignore anyway.

    I am still mad that HrC revealed Donald J Trump’s tax returns. Does any one honestly want a couple in the WH who would never hesitate to use the IRS and DOJ and FBI agaisnt their political opponents?

    There is so much in the Podesta emails about all the foreign interests they are taking money from. I cannot even express how revolting they are. This is not just gossip you know.

  177. Larry Ledwick says:

    Twitter speculating that NY police broke this issue by seizing all computers in Weiners house due to child porn allegations. Then they discovered the emails doing forensic examination of the drive contents and went to the NY FBI with the emails.

    If true this would explain some things because that would make the disclosure outside the FBI and Comey could not longer control it with his non-disclosure agreements from their original investigation. Probably got word that if he did not break the story someone else would.

    Makes sense to me.

  178. Another Ian says:


    And maybe with that news and first looks very worried as to what Wikileks may be springing?

  179. David A Anderson says:

    Rumors are flying, the dam may have finally broke; all Clinton’s emails found, Anonymous has been feeding Wiki ( not Russia)
    Honest patriotic people are left in the FBI

  180. David A Anderson says:

    Larry, I think the back story on this will be done and done in 30 days. A new era of transparency, forced transparency, aka, the real revenge of the nerds like E.M.s anonymous pist

  181. David A Anderson says:

    Rumors of HRC sending 1.8 billion to Qutar, rumors about the O planning to flee the nation right after the election. The entire back story to Bengazi, Fast and Furious, Oran, corrupt media. Corrupt pols,

  182. David A Anderson says:

    … MB influence on the O and HRC, paid known to be false attacks on Trump, clean Trump tax records, deep state looking for war with Russia, the entire O admin may be done. America did not bite on the divide and hate the US hating in love with Islam hating Marxists promoted, almost, but restraint and basic decency held up against the hate mongers. HRC and the O.

  183. Larry Ledwick says:

    Current rumors about what is going on at the FBI regarding the new emails. Seems more complicated than it looks from the outside, possibly trying to run out the clock on disclosure prior to election day.
    Using delay tactics on giving the FBI a formal warrant to access the emails so they are depending on second hand info about what they are and might contain. Obviously the folks who did the initial forensic investigation on the lap top were exposed to some of them as they examined the records found on the lap top, but did not have an explicit warrant to investigate anyone but Weiner and his escapades.


  184. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well this is getting interesting — perhaps Weiner is looking for a life insurance policy or a get out of jail free card. He may have just thrown the entire gang under the bus depending on what is on that laptop.


  185. Larry Ledwick says:

    Brietbart appears to be confirming that Comey made the latest release in self defense from his own people.


  186. Jeff says:

    Other folks are bringing up Wiener, Bill Clinton, and their “Lolita Express” jaunts. This is starting to make Watergate look amateurish…

    According to treehouse, Hitler is pretty upset too… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9CqwMPfsms

  187. Regis Llanfar says:

    Drudge is reporting via WSJ that 650k emails found on the laptop.

  188. LG says:

    History in the making.
    Might this come to pass ?

  189. LG says:

    One more Try :

  190. Larry Ledwick says:

    This news story seems to document that Comey was watching the FBI and his relationship with colleagues collapse and under great pressure to find a way to fix it. With stacks of resignation letters accumulating he was forced to do something to save face for the organization (and for himself)


  191. E.M.Smith says:

    @David & Larry:

    The report I heard was that the Guicifer “insurance” cache was handed over to Wikileaks by a trusted archivist… though that could also be Anonymous…

    And yes, IF NYPD gets what looks like “confidential” and they recognize they are not “cleared” it results in a call to the FBI to “please take a look and say we didn’t break any laws by looking at it…” and then that Monkey is on the back of the FBI (where only some folks have clearance… and they may not be the first ones to see it…)

    My guess is that they took Weiner’s computer, but it had Huma’s stuff on it too, and then the fat was being fried big time. Judging from the photo of Huma having a melt down as The Wicked Witch fries her with You Are Dead (‘to me’…) beams from her hatchet face kinda says it all…

    I doubt that it was “approved” for Huma to be making her own ‘insurance’ copies… and one now also gets to wonder just what, if anything, was then being shared on to the rest of the Friends Of Islam Circle…

    This could end up being “not much” as the emails are all dups and not the juicy ones, or it could be game over if they are clearly critical State Secrets, “burn before reading” directions to Huma to arrange criminal actions, and / or forwarded to Huma’s “handler”… So many ways this can go wrong (or right…)

    Oh, and Weiner giving the okey-dockey is just astounding. Somehow I think he was not ‘feeling the love’ from Huma and the Clintons and has seen his chance for a plea deal… and revenge served cold…

    Maybe the choice was: “let them work it, and I have a mysterious suicide in a year” vs “make sure they are in prison and I can maybe make it to a nice Latin country and grow a beard”…

    Of course, the two giants issues:

    Will The Big O’ grant a pardon before we know what he is pardoning?

    Will The Average Voter catch enough clue for this to be anything but noise, and then Hillary can pardon herself?…

  192. Larry Ledwick says:

    FBI got the warrant to look at the emails found on the laptop.
    From twitter:
    Al Boe ‏@AlBoeNEWS 1m1 minute ago

    #BREAKING: FBI just got warrant to go through new Clinton emails


  193. Another Ian says:

    “Steve Richards
    October 31, 2016 at 6:33 am · Reply

    Looking at the whois database, I note that the clintonone.com domain/email address was set up for hillary on 13th Jan 2009, she accepted the office of secretary of state on the 21st Jan 2009.

    A clear week in advance of accepting one of the highest offices of state in the USA, she set up a private email server……”

    A comment at


    Another suggests “Weinergate” as the name

  194. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Wouldn’t a Weinergate just be a chastity belt?

    (Hold your groaning for the end… )

  195. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 19 minutes ago

    Wow, this FBI email thing just keeps getting worse and worse. I’m hearing stories of Hillary supporters taking down yard signs in disgust.

    pmadonna ‏@pmadonna3 16m16 minutes ago

    @mitchellvii yes, on the next block there was one hillary sign, the rest were all Trump, today the sign for Hillary is down now TRUMP sign


    @mitchellvii I drove through the only Hillary section in my county yesterday. No signs left from the week prior.

  196. Larry Ledwick says:

    Okay I think this is the point where someone yells – “Abandon ship every ‘person’ for themselves”


  197. cdquarles says:

    Can O pardon HRC? Sure. Recall that Gerald Ford did that for Richard Nixon, at a high political cost to himself (and recall that the 1975 Congress was very highly D.

  198. gallopingcamel says:

    “#BREAKING: U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan renews call to suspend Clinton’s classified briefings until email matter is resolved – BNO”

    With friends like Paul Ryan you don’t need enemies.

  199. Larry Ledwick says:

    According to this item by Sharyl Attkisson, the FBI currently has 4 active investigations underway on the Clinton’s – nothing to see here move along.
    Just what we need, a presidential candidate who might get impeached in her first 100 days in office.


  200. Larry Ledwick says:

    If anyone wants a timeline for emailgate developments


  201. David A says:

    If protective custody fails is he a “dead man wanking”?

  202. David A Anderson says:

    RICO charges can be brought by state authority, this no presidential pardon? ( ????)

  203. Another Ian says:

    E.M.Smith says:
    30 October 2016 at 10:36 pm

    @Another Ian:

    Wouldn’t a Weinergate just be a chastity belt?

    (Hold your groaning for the end… )

    E.M. You mean there’s worse to come?

  204. Another Ian says:

    Pickering plain speak

    … while media still thinks it doesn’t stink”


  205. Another Ian says:


    You might need to screen save this!


  206. Gail Combs says:

    “Wouldn’t a Weinergate just be a chastity belt?”

    A chastity belt for Huma or for Hitlery??? Or both?

    Actually I do not think ANY of the virtues can be found in those two.

  207. Gail Combs says:


    AND the FBI has ALSO not released EXPLOSIVE information on the relationship between Santa Claus and Rudolph the Reindeer!

  208. philjourdan says:

    1) Can a pardon be issued for a crime that has not been given a verdict by the court?

    Marc Rich.

  209. philjourdan says:

    @Larry – re: the DC Whispers column. That is the first time I have seen Huma being anywhere near human.

  210. philjourdan says:

    Huma is claiming she has no knowledge how the emails got on Weiners computer. If that is an honest statement (and for now we will accept it as such), then the answer probably very well is that Weiner hacked her email to keep tabs on her. So the next allegation will be that Weiner was working for the Russians?

  211. A C Osborn says:

    “If that is an honest statement (and for now we will accept it as such)” this from a woman who lied under oath that there were no “other devices”.
    Yeah right.

  212. philjourdan says:

    I think we can safely say that this is the most serious Mis-deweiner in law. :-)

  213. Larry Ledwick says:

    There is one other possibility, that their system was hacked and the hacker “parked” those emails there to take her down and simultaneously leak the info to the world, ie a setup.

    650,000 emails is a “lot” of emails to keep on a system, it was either an intentional insurance archive or the above, since most people do not keep that many emails in their accounts and at least occasionally purge really old accumulated email.

    For example I have 1500 emails in my inbox and it is long overdue for cleaning up.

    Microsoft Outlook starts to have problems with email volumes get high as it takes a long time to index the emails when opening outlook.

    It has these limits for folder size and contents, so to get to 650,000 emails you would have to be a compulsory keeper of emails and Never delete anything that is old.

    The item and folder limits depend on the version of Outlook, as follows.

    Outlook 2016, Outlook 2013 and Outlook 2010:
    100,000 items per folder
    500 folders total

    Outlook 2007:
    50,000 items per folder
    500 folders total

    EM have you ever managed commercial email and have a feel for extreme that sort of an email archive is?

  214. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting historical view of landslide elections and poll shifts

  215. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh David, You’ve one upped me, er him, er….

    @Another Ian:

    It means we’ll all get it in the end… but it might take 4 years…

    Looks like the search and / or wiki have already been sanitized but the article is still up (and I did screen cap it ;-)


    Is Harry Reid anything more than an expensive yapping ‘mop dog’ (rat on a rope, pee-can-ease, ankle biter) at this point?


    It might well be true. Folks who are “political” often have zero clue about how tech works OR what it does. So she gets a new phone, “mate” says “you need to keep it backed up, here, I’ll set it up for you”… 3 years later she has forgotten that 15 seconds, and never had a clue that ‘back up the phone’ includes “copy everything on it including the email” after all, “email” doesn’t look at all like “phone”… So ever time she comes home it automagically connects to their home WiFi and “backs up”… and she does nothing for years and doesn’t realize it.

    Why do I say that? Years and years of trying to explain to otherwise intelligent people what THEY have done and where their data has “gone’… (and sometimes why “reset” means “delete everything” and why “delete” sometimes means “it is sitting in this folder named recycle”…)

    Oh Dear, looks like the groaning continues ;-)


    I have managed commercial email services for companies from the start in about 1983 to about 5? years back.

    In the beginning, many folks kept everything. Then it became a liability under “discovery” and folks started deleting everything (even had one company, run by a friend, who put ALL email on an outside service with orders not to preserve after reading). Then Sarbox cam along and it is now compulsory to keep the archive for at least 5 years for companies or 7 for law firms, this resulting in some CIO types just buying a NetApp and setting it to never delete ever.

    Individuals generally fall into 3 groups:

    1) Clueless. The bulk of all users. Generally randomly delete some things, but sometimes all of it (and request a recovery) and very often never delete, just set up (or have IT set up) auto mail filing rules. Generally then ignore everything until “My email is broken, what did IT do?” comes to the help desk.

    2) Compulsive Packrats. I was one until “discovery” hit the scene. I kept every single email from day one. It was “my personal history”.

    3) Studious Housekeepers. Those folks who follow some discipline of always tossing out whatever is no longer needed. These are a small minority IM Experience… I’m not more one of these.

    There is a minor case for:

    4) Paranoid Tossers. Folks who have observed the trouble email can cause to “shred before reading” and toss everything possible. This was becoming a trend until SarBox quashed it. Not long ago, AOL got pissy at me because I’d not logged in soon enough, so they sent me an email telling me they were deleting my ass. As I’d logged in and that email said I needed to do that, I figured that I’d done what was needed. Nope. About a month later they deleted all my saved email. About 10 years worth. I made a conscious decision NOT to nag / cajole / call the help desk / pay money / whatever to get them restored. Instead of “Oh Noes! A decade of my Personal History Gone!” it was “Oh, well, that’s convenient, all that risk shitholed…”

    I’ve lost contact with a dozen or so folks as I no longer have their email address ( I’d just ‘reply’ to one of their letters …) and another dozen or so have stopped sending me email (as the account was ‘dead’ long enough for them to ‘get the memo’ from AOL, before they revived it, before they deleted the archive…)

    FWIW, some systems admin types can get 1000+ emails a day, and even as a project manager type I had something like 100 a day from various systems nagging me about things. So 36,500 a year to 365,000 a year isn’t hard at all… And as all good peons know, you need those saved so you can show you got it, and did what it said, your response email you copied the parties involved, and your boss, and your “insurance account”… In one roll, I sent out bulk email to about 400 people (programmers and managers) about “Things To Do” with ‘several a day’ just from me… then you get the replies… and the automated vacation notices… and… For the duration of that contract, I kept 100% of email in sorted folders (deleted on contract end… they had it in the Sarbox archive and I didn’t need it anymore since internal politics didn’t matter to an X-contractor…) IIRC it was nearing 50? GB at the end… I’ve known folks with much much larger sets…

    So, short form: It is a lot, but for someone in a political role, using strategic email, and doing it for 1/2 decade or more, quite inside the norms.

  216. philjourdan says:

    @Gail – no, the weinergate would be for all the underaged girls that have been sexted.

  217. Larry Ledwick says:

    I had not thought of what would happen with automatic archiving and modern sync technologies.
    Accidental archive sounds perfectly reasonable.

    Being in operations I also get hundreds of emails at work every day, things like backup notifications, server X cannot reach Y alerts etc. trouble tickets (which are preserved inside the ticketing system so I can always recover those if needed) so understand the business email blitz. I shift important categories of those emails off into separate folders.

    Every morning when I get to work I strip out all of these various email types into separate folders, like backup notifications (start times completion times with warnings if it failed or errored) etc. then about once a week I truncate those files by deleting the bottom half of the folder (sorted by date). That means they are still in the deleted email folder. Then every couple months I dump all but the newest files in the deleted folder with force (shift delete).
    Then there are some emails that if they are more than 24 hours old are meaningless so they get shift deleted every day or two.

    I guess that puts me mostly in the Studious Housekeeper category, as I know the windows admin has the total archive for historical preservation, and if anything really is important, and I dumped it, either he has it, or odds are very good that someone else in the ops or sysadmin group has a copy.

    There are about 5 people in the company that I keep 100% of their email because they do not sent crap emails, most everyone else, over 30 days old goes away.

  218. Gail Combs says:

    It occurs to me that Wiener has been told by the police not to leave town. I assume that Wiener is still in Manhattan NY near his son.

    Given how close Huma is to Hillary I think it is safe to say Wiener is well aware of Hillary’s temper/irrational behavior and her baiting of the Russians.

    Now would YOU want to be stuck in NYC, one of our largest targets with a Hillary Clinton president-elect and a P.O.ed Putin with nuclear subs??? I wouldn’t. So I think Wiener had good reason to say go ahead and look at those emails.

    Hopefully others have also considered how idiotic it is to play Russian roulette with Putin.

  219. E.M.Smith says:


    An even easier path would just be “Huma dumped my ass, I’m pissed at her, sure you can look at her stuff on my machine – screw her and her Bitch Mommy…”

    Don’t see any need at all to get into international politics, Russia, Putin, anyone more than one degree of relationship away… most revenge is very personal…

  220. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 15 minutes ago

    Obama quietly cancelled all his appearances at Hillary rallies. Then Pat Caddell and Doug Schoen come out against her. Writing on wall.

    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 18 minutes ago

    I’m telling you, Doug Schoen didn’t disavow Hillary on FoxNews without a stamp of approval from on high.

    The Dems are done with her.

    Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii 19m19 minutes ago

    At this point, Democrat leadership may no longer want Hillary to win because her impeachment would decimate their brand. Wait for 2020.

    I am getting the same impression, we will know for sure in the next few days if all the polls collapse.
    They have more control over the situation if they throw grandma under the bus now and scream bloody murder about Russian intervention in the election (never mind that Obama intervened in Israel’s recent election to try to make BiBi lose by sending democratic party activists to help stir up trouble.)

    Better to have her lose and blame the sexist Republicans for her loss, than to have her win and risk outing major voter fraud and have her impeached in the first 100 days.

    Going out on a limb here, but given the pattern of behavior that is typical, I would expect that shortly after Trump takes office they will pull the plug on the economy, or try to instigate major civil unrest next summer so they can blame it on Trump.
    If he pulls a significant fraction of the Black vote, expect them to stir up major rioting or protests in the inner cities to punish those who would dare to vote for someone other than a Democrat.

  221. Larry Ledwick says:

    From Twitter: (this could get interesting!)
    Megyn Kelly ‏@megynkelly 1 minute ago

    We’re investigating a possible civil war brewing in Washington after rpts surfaced that DOJ tried to stop FBI from looking into @ClintonFdn

  222. Don Mogstad says:

    Worst case for Group Hillary:

    Maybe somewhere in that Wiener cache of e-mails is a bunch of the deleted 30,000; AND some of the deleted 30,000 are problem causers, AND time/date can confirm deleted from Hillary server.

    It’s no longer “we deleted a bunch of private e-mails that meant nuthn to nobody”.

    It’s “I’ve obstructed justice and thought we could get away with it because were smarter than everyone else, but now a bunch of us are gong to jail, and since my kids’ father is pedophile and I really don’t want my kid to be around him, I don’t want to go to jail, so I will say and do anything you want me to so I can try to negotiate as little penalty as possible, but if I do go to jail I want my daughter to be able to live with my mother so please don’t let my weird husband off light … I want to negotiate that he gets enough penalty that I get leverage in custody.”

    And what does Wiener have left to negotiate with? And does that freaky SOB even want to be burdened with the kid?

    And if I were writing a screen play, Wieners 15-year old sextee would, in the end, be shown to be a somewhat disgruntled, slovenly, 54 year old FBI agent with a knack for enticing freaky SOB’s on the internet.

  223. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well it looks like HRC fabricated the story about Trump Russian connection. If you actually do a whois look up on the domain it is not the same as presented by the stories and the image below.
    From twitter:
    Mike Cernovich
    🇺🇸 ‏@Cernovich 17m17 minutes ago

    Slate’s “Russian server story” is so bad that Daily Beast (owned by Chelsea Clinton) passed on it and Carlos Slims’ blog (NYT) debunked it.

    See this story for the version from Slate




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  224. Larry Ledwick says:

    My last post might have gone to spam — regarding hoaxed trump server story from slate

  225. David A Anderson says:

    Larry, I think you are correct, the O must know what the FBI has, and that HRC is done. Regarding the DOJ war with the FBI, my guess is the DOJ cannot suppress this, and the O is likely in delay and damage control. t

  226. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well the post stamped 02:39 is the one I thought got eaten by spam filter, but it did take considerably longer than 4 minutes to show up, confirming earlier observations about some posts take an unusually long time to get posted to the thread.

  227. David A Anderson says:

    So, how long will it take for the evidence to be made public, and does wiki leaks have it.

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  229. E.M.Smith says:


    It was in moderation from link count, and I was fast, but not faster than 4 minutes. ;-)

    @David A Anderson:

    Heard on the news that the FBI has said they expect to let folks have a summary of what they are seeing in the email sometime before the election. My sense of it was something along the lines of “Not seeing anything new, go vote” or “OMG, we, eh, er, there will be a recommendation made on the 6th…”

    The FBI is pretty good on security, so Wikileaks doesn’t have it. (Besides, the FBI hasn’t made it yet). However, I expect Wikileaks to get it if either the FBI doesn’t do anything reasonable, or after they send it to the DOJ (who shares with the Democrats who leak like a sieve).

    I’m also adding a new continuation posting as this one is getting a bit long:


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