The Trump Transition “TT” at minus 2 weeks.
Just 2 more weeks in January. Sporadically I’ll put up additional TT posts as any one gets too full to load quickly, or as some event causes me to desire to put a head post up on the topic.
Prior threads in the chain are:
We skipped 4 due to sloth on my part…
So Trump had his Spy-vs-Spy briefing, and got it only slightly later than the Press got a copy… one wonders why THAT leak isn’t an issue…
The Russians Did It! Is losing currency in the USA due to the vapid nature of it. Golly, the Russians let us see the truth? That’s what you got? My assessment of it is not that far from the actual level of support from the Intelligence Community (Hannity did a great rip on it tonight). They differ mostly in that the Official Report (after saying we have evidence the Russians are up to something, a lot, but can’t really finger them) proceeds to finger them in the conclusions. The Looney Left News tries to spin that as proof, while the actual analysts in the TLAs know their bosses are political.
BBC tried to keep the spin up with saying Trump was in a food fight with the Agencies and was threatening to reorganize them. From my POV, I’m just wondering why in hell we need 17 Agencies (especially if they all agree… one would do…) doing the same job. Imagine yourself in Moscow at an anti-USA meeting and you find out of the 25 people there, 17 are US Intelligence Agencies… That only leaves 8 for The UK, Germany, Ukraine, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iran, China, Japan, Poland, and Brazil… somebody is going to be left out… oh, yeah, any actual Russians…
Yet D.W. (German news) is still lapping it up. Tonight they even claimed the next Russian Target was Angela Merkel. Never mind her incredibly stupid open door policy for immigration that has resulted in death, destruction, and rampant groping of women. No, if she loses, it will be because of Russian induced Nationalism…
Even Biden has realized Trump is President. Ending the attempt at a food-fight by the Dimocrats in his Democrat party with “It’s Over” and slams the gavel. Certifying the vote.
What will the next 2 weeks bring? I suspect more bratty food fights from the Left who just can’t accept that We The Deplorables had a good close look at their candidate and decided we didn’t want to spend another 4 years looking at that; and maybe shutting down industry with “trade deals” and mining due to non-existent “Global Warming” would turn voters against you. (Oh, do note the rampant cold right now… Sierra Nevada expecting about 4 to 6 feet of “global warming” at the ski resorts…)
About all they’ve got left was MSNBC (or maybe CNN or maybe both, hard to tell them apart) moaning Trump was reneging on his “Mexico Pays for the fence” promise since he was going to build it first with USA sourced funds then collect payments later… Have they never heard of a mortgage?… Mortgage the few $Billion of funds transferred to Mexico every year by creaming off a penny on the dollar and you get your money back pronto. I’m sure the illegals working here and sending it home won’t complain… (or maybe Trump can set up “complain and get a free ticket home” stations for them in all major cities.)
May the end of the Obama “rhymes with bucket” list come soon… what he’s done so far trying to piss in the punch bowl of the inauguration is already horridly too much and very wrong. But hey, why change his style after 8 years of it…
With that, let the conversation roll on…
Re the Mexico border.
Seems our progressive comrades do not understand that border security is a joint responsibility.
Just as a boundary fence in suburbia is a mutual expense if sited right on the property lines.
The “Wall” is required.Mexico shares the costs of the border.Exactly as Canada does.
Obviously if a country refuses to enforce agreed upon rules, that border will close.
Yet those who benefit from chaos remain opposed to a secure and defined national border.
I wonder what laws do they imagine transcend juristiction?
If a law cannot be enforced, is it still a law?
Still getting the odd belly laugh from the tears of the Libtards, but can see their whining will get old real soon.
What the hell is that story at Brightbart/
Obama awards self Medal of… Can he mock himself any further?
Sort of implies Obama will be pardoning himself in his last days, along with a staggering long list of activists who need immunity, to “protect the legacy”.
These last two weeks are like the climax of a terrible horror movie, totally devoid of reality yet too terrible/funny to stop watching.
‘Fake News” is a classic own goal from our presstitutes, pointing at the mirror and condemning ones own bad behaviour.
Yup the Russians did it.
Yup “Polling Shows” From the same polsters who predicted Hillary’s Ascent.
Found RT on my sat feed, they are killing themselves laughing at Putin’s Omnipotence.
El Supreme Hacker..
The mass suicide by our “Main Stream Media” is even more amusing than Progressive Tears, of course it is hard to tell the difference.
Obliquely related to the Trump transition, but the best place I could think to post this observation.
It just dawned on me something else going on in Russia with Putin’s leadership. There have been observations made that he is bringing back religion to help build the Church as a secondary power base that can strongly influence the public. This has always been couched in terms that in Russia particularly and many other states in the past there were several recognized power blocks which either worked together or served as checks on each other. Usually in most countries they were enumerated as:
The civil government
The intelligence apparatus
Any power player who controlled or had strong influence on any 3 or more of those effectively controlled the country.
Today there are items appearing showing Putin celebrating Orthodox Church services for Christmas, and as I looked at the picture the little light bulb went on that one of the most effective ways to buffer Islamic influence is to have a strong Christian religious influence as a counter, as it can go toe to toe on the religious front in a way that governments cannot. Part of the old hearts and minds approach much harder to suck in as a Jihadist if you first have to counter a preexisting faith that is counter to Islam.
@Larry, I think you have hit the nail on it’s head.
Russia is supposed to become the Savior of the Eastern Christians. Soon the Brothers of the North will Unite and bring an end to the threat of the Armies of Islam…pg
We need those TLA to keep The Trillion Dollar A Year Scam going.
Joe Biden gaveled down freshman Washington State Rep. Pramila Jayapal; she from Seattle.
Those of us east of the Cascade Crest were unaware of her and her dementia until “Uncle Joe” explained the rules of Congress to her.
I always consider it a shame when someone unserious takes on a position of importance, and even more of an issue when the person represents a group or community that needs responsible voices.
Hey, I pointed at Putin in the preamble… so he and Russia are fair game topics here!
Merry Orthodox Christmas!
The Russian People were mighty chaffed by the Communists forbidding their religion. Don’t know if it is just Putin riding the rebound wave, or if Putin even inside the appratus had some longing for the old ways… Only he will know… (Or maybe: Only He will know. ;-)
No doubt the “War On Drugs” (like all the “war on crap” that doesn’t involve tanks and nations…) is a failed policy and needs to go. It is happening at the State level, but Trump is very anti-drugs and booze so you likely have a long wait at the Federal Level. Then again, he hates waste and it is pretty damned wasteful… How much prison cost could be eliminated if you just said it was between a person and their doctor instead? How much policing cost if you just said it’s a medical issue not a police issue?
It isn’t a ‘shame’, it’s the warm up comedy act! ;-)
I got a good laugh out of her vs Joe The Volcano anyway ;-)
I do have to say that wherever you picked up that future-narrative it does seem to be accurate a lot…
I’ve tried desperately to not laugh out loud at those of diminished capacity, but the Dimocrats are making that Very Very Hard!
It’s one of the strongest Farce Plays I’ve seen in ages, and they don’t even realize it!
Will Obama remember to pardon Hilary before he goes, or is he too busy planning the 400foot statue of himself which he wants to leave at the end of the White House lawn?
Hmmm this is interesting item from the Daily Beast which strikes me as a bit of disinformation and pre-suasion all in one. Given it comes from one of the most progressive media outlets that there is, it has to be viewed from the viewpoint of suspect propaganda to serve their agenda.
It is a very subtle suggestion that Trump is “too good to be true” with regard to his “friendly relationships with Russia”, that one category of those who turn traitor are those who sell out for money, and plants a presuggestion he or his staff might be somehow involved in espionage with Russia.
In fairness the suggestion made would fit President Obama much better but in that context this could be misdirection (sort of like farting in an elevator and then turning to blame your friend for eating burritos for lunch).
I guess the thing to do, is to take this as a data point and then watch closely what shows up on RT, Sputnik and other sources closely connected to Russia and the media talking heads that are puppets of the DNC and current administration.
This seems to be another page of the “blame Russia” background noise coming out of Washington lately, and subtly playing on the left’s paranoia about the “Rich and greed” applied to Trump while they are willfully blind to their own corrupt rich Democratic power players.
It is true that some of Trump’s advisors have uncomfortably familiar connections with Russia as does the Trump enterprise over the years. The question is does this signal overly friendly disposition towards Russia at the expense of America? An understanding of Russian psychology and social pressures and a willingness to work together for our mutual benefit where our strategic goals match while holding them at arms length on strategic goals which conflict (better the enemy you know than the enemy you don’t).
Is Trump a true American Patriot who is using his sales and negotiation skill against a worthy opponent (Putin) to try to find a win win solution or is one or the other of them trying to play the other. We know Putin has played Obama like a fiddle at ho down so he is certainly capable of engineering that sort of gambit, but Trump has also negotiated some power block mine fields of his own (New Jersey Casinos, organized crime influence in the construction trades, and New York Unions to name a few).
The next few years will be very interesting to watch as this game of high stakes poker plays out.
But Trumps insurmountable problem could be the national debt, the fed will try and crash it by raising interest rates, otherwise Trump can kick the debt can down the road for several years. Reducing taxes and applying tariffs could lead to some growth, but also widen the gap between the 0.1% and the bottom 90%
If the world economy crashes does debt even matter ? If it does then Russia is in a strong position.
I don’t understand why the US security services didn’t stonewall the report as they had nothing to report they should have just waited until Trump takes over. Obama might have been able to fire them, but then they are going to get fired soon anyway as I suspect Trump will eviscerate them within a few years.
Over the last 8 years just like the IRS and the Justice department CIA, FBI and others have been politicized, those in charge still wanted to help Obama’s agenda. It will be interesting to see how Trump brings the intelligence community back to neutral and if he can find leaders who refuse to stoop to political partisanship any more than necessary. This has been a problem in the US since Vietnam, and the Kennedy / Johnson administration. Like all powerful agencies they have fiefdoms and little power blocks that favor different power brokers in DC.
That is one of the things that seriously upset the rank and file agents at the FBI, they had wanted to give straight up analysis of the Clinton email hack and her security failures and Comey deferred to the political agenda.
The start of our CIA was the OSS group started in WWII they were all smart but overconfident Ivy League folks who blundered more than they succeeded in Europe. Our intelligence agencies have still not fully matured (relatively young by comparison to Britain and France who have been doing spy stuff for hundreds of years under kings and elected governments.
We are over dependent on technology and a bit lacking on good spy craft and the sheer determination of the KGB/GRU and similar to be hard headed pragmatists and understand that risks must be taken.
Look at some of the clownish capers planned against Fidel Castro, – – – we have had our share of over zealous clown shows in intelligence. During WWII almost every agent dropped in to Europe was either killed shortly after landing or turned double agent on the allies.
Insiders call it “a house of mirrors” because everyone is constantly playing each other, and trying to manipulate others so even inside agencies you have these little spy vs spy wars going on unless the leadership is very strong and focused. The current administration preferred loyal but incompetent team players and got what it paid for.
Can’t remember where I say it but his mother had him baptized in the Russian Orthodox without his father knowing it.
Reminds me of the old Jesuit saying. “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.” It would seem that his Mom’s influence has taken hold.
I think this item pretty well covers the limitations of the recent intelligence report and how “solid” the evidence is that Russia was the only hacker of note this election cycle.
I’ve read the Trump story on drugs. IMO PTSD runs in his family. If he understands addiction = PTSD he may take a stance different than you imagine. He seems quite well read on the subject.
If he calls the war a war on abused children (I did )
It will be over in a week.
The biggest lie ever told (It has lasted in public for over 100 years) is that drugs cause addiction. There is no evidence for it – and yet the belief continues on. If drugs caused addiction opiate pain relief would be out the door. Everybody given a shot of morphine would be an addict.
And yet the belief is so entrenched that people will not even consider contrary evidence.
It ain’t what you know, it is what you know that ain’t so.
People in chronic pain chronically take pain relievers.
Why is that so hard to understand? Where is the compassion that Christians used to be so famous for?
The way to beat the Gramascians is to embrace the rejected until all they have left are the most vile of humans. And what do you know? There seems to be a move on to mainstream pedophilia. A bridge too far.
BTW the biggest cause of PTSD in the US is child abuse.
“Wilderness of mirrors.” BTW the most successful espionage gambit of all time was convincing government’s to make drugs illegal. Then the Cocaine Importation Agency handled the arbitrage. Very profitably.
In so doing they got to know criminals quite well. Criminals can make good spies. They are already practicing rudimentary trade craft. They have the mind set. And divided loyalties.
The US treatment of “Lucky” Luciano during WW2 should have given a clue. People think he was the exception. When if fact he is the rule.
“Russians are up to something, a lot, but can’t really finger them proceeds to finger them in the conclusions.”
This reminds me of the IPCC. You read the science sections of AR5 and can’t find much to be alarmed about. Then you read the “Executive Summary” which says temperatures are going to sky rocket in catastrophic fashion and humans are to blame.
We have got used to “Science” being corrupted and politicized. It seems that our moral superiors on the left believe that means we can be trained to accept corrupt and politicized “Intelligence”.
“How much policing cost if you just said it’s a medical issue not a police issue?”
If drug addiction was regarded as a medical problem:
1. Addicts could obtain drugs at 20 times lower prices than today. Consequently they would be less likely to commit crimes to support their habit.
2. Addicts would have drugs of consistent strength and quality so over dosing would be much less likely.
3. Sterile needles would be available at very low cost so the transmission of AIDS, Hepatitis and other blood borne infections would be reduced.
4. The crime cartels and gangs that depend on the criminalization of narcotics would disappear and our jails would be half empty.
5. Physicians would help drug abusers minimize the negative consequences of their life style.
OK………nothing like that is going to happen under Trump so we will have to wait a little longer.
“I don’t understand why the US security services didn’t stonewall the report as they had nothing to report they should have just waited until Trump takes over. ”
The fish rots from the head so expect Donald Trump to replace the first couple of layers of the Department of Justice and many of those three letter agencies within a matter of weeks.
If it turns out that the corruption goes much deeper it may take a year or two to fix it. The Donald has one big advantage over most politicians. His reaction to incompetence will be “You’re fired” and if corruption is proven “You’re fired, your pension is forfeit and you may face criminal charges”.
“The biggest lie ever told (It has lasted in public for over 100 years) is that drugs cause addiction.”
Another big lie is that guns cause violent crime:
@Another Ian says:
8 January 2017 at 2:35 am
Hmmm what an interesting web of key names included in that piece from Brietbart regarding CapitolG CrowdStrike, Russian Expat, former FBI type, Rockefeller, Soros – – – – we are all just one happy family.
The willingness of DNC to go public makes you wonder if the server was a honey pot and the info was intentionally allowed to be leaked to highlight the Trump Russian connection and they just missplayed their hand or was it them trying to make the best of a bad situation or just stupid bravado that they could convince the voters that the other side was the bad guy when they had dirty laundry flying everywhere.
This is going to make a great spy novel expose in about 30 – 40 years, too bad I probably will not live long enough to learn the dirty little details. Like the Kennedy assassination this will be fodder for a dozen books and 2 – 3 movies over the coming decades.
Trump on drugs.
Do not be too sure that Trump will continue to support the war on drugs. His brother had major problems which is why he does not drink.
HOWEVER his method of dealing with something is “DIG HERE” When the subject of abortion came up many years ago he went out and talked to doctors about what it entailed. He is opposed to abortion BUT he says it is a STATE issue and not federal. (Note that he never got sucked into that trap during the election.)
I would expect Trump to do or to have already done the same on the issue of drugs and alcohol. I also expect him to say it is NOT a federal issue, and with his brother’s problems, it is NOT a criminal issue.
Trump doesn’t know everything but he seems to be a ‘dig here’ kind of guy who listens to experts of all stripes. One of the commenters at the Conservative Tree House caught him after a rally in a serious discussion with the janitors for the building about floor finishes and floor polish. That glimpse of the real Trump gives me a lot of hope.
The more I learn about Trump the more I like the idea of the guy, but the more I talk to my fellow Kiwis, the more I get the the dea that most of them are convinced he is a monster and that Obama is a genius/saint. And reading our loca versionMSM is thoroughly depressing.
RT article on Soros (very interesting and objective coverage of the political balance in Europe)
Over all a good article on all accounts – if you look closely you can see the tension between Putin and Soros in the writing, but I was frankly surprised about their summary of the logic behind the Marshal plan.
US tank Brigades arrive in Germany enroute to Poland
Includes 4,000 US soldiers, from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, out of Fort Carson, Colorado. The trains required to transport the armor will have a total length of 14 kilometers.
I am so tired of that income inequality crap. Why should there be income equality? Even more how could be possible without total social control? Quit being envious of someone else’s blessings and learn from them and make your own blessings, with the help of and to glorify He That Is. Equality under God and before the law, yes. We are all individuals first and members of extended individuals second, again, under He That Is.
Drug addiction isn’t a medical problem. It is something else. Drug intoxication is a medical issue and, if improperly handled, becomes a legal issue. Drugs don’t cause addiction. Addiction doesn’t mean what we’ve been indoctrinated into believing it means. Ending the century old war on drugs would save trillions. [Wasn’t it Abraham Lincoln who said that it is folly to treat vices as crimes?]
I completely agree with you on drugs. MJ is a heck of a lot better pain reliever for back pain than what you can buy over the counter and some of that stuff will kill you a heck of a lot faster. Liver damage from acetaminophen, which can be severe. Ibuprofen can cause kidney damage and Naproxen liver damage. All of them will eat the heck out of your stomach.
MJ, Morphine and Codine (prescriptions for pain) never gave me the least bit of a problem… Just stay away from my CHOCOLATE!!!
They Caught the Russian Hackers in the ACT!!!!
You know the MSM and Democrats have completely lost control when the jokes start making the rounds.
Does anyone here take seriously Jon Rappoport’s suggestion that Homeland Security plans to take control of US Elections?
Not in an immediate and overt sense, but by claiming elections as critical infrastructure DHS is making a “camels nose under the tent” entry into an area I would rather not see them make. Once the FEDs have “over sight” of elections like the department of Education they can slowly seep into all the processes and at some future date that sort of situation could be possible. Much more difficult to do if elections are locally controlled.
DHS has become a huge bureaucracy that just keeps growing, and has no natural opponent to keep it in check. It is limited only by what the executive branch is willing to let them get away with. As we have seen over the last 8 years that can lead to politicization of very powerful branches of government (IRS, FCC, Justice Department, FBI . . . ) which lays the ground work that would make a true “big brother” government possible. I would rather keep that possibility as far in the future as I can – in fact I would like to see DHS broken up into smaller units not so prone to staffing and mission bloat.
I guess the short version is any law change that depends on “good intent” by the enforcing agency to be harmless is a bad move. This one has all sorts of opportunities down the road for going south and turning the election process into a hidden black hole process controlled by a Federal Bureaucracy.
For example who would have oversight and authority to stop actions by the DHS if they went rogue and became controlled by a political party? Is there specific congressional oversight for activities related to elections? Will the FBI be able to investigate its actions? (Secret Service is in Homeland Security) as is the Federal Protective Service.
This could get very interesting. ( I hope E.M. is not going to be in too bad a shape from it.)
Tony Heller is reporting
The Pineapple Express dumped a 43 day storm on California that year.
So far it looks like it is getting very nasty in Nevada and California. (So much for Gov. Moonbeams Permanent Drought.)
Given Trump’s victory and now this flooding I wonder how the Illegals are going to take these ‘signs’ of ‘heavenly disfavor’?
La Santa Muerte: ‘Patron saint of Narcos’ rattles the Catholic Church
Organized-crime growth and sustainment: a review of the influence of popular religion and beliefs in Mexico — Naval Postgraduate School, Masters thesis unclassified.
With California hiring Eric Holder and already shouting defiance against Trump it could get VERY interesting.
Trump Inspires Defiance — and Optimism — in California Legislature
I think the Good Lord just Trumped the California Legislature’s reassurance. And I am an agnostic. (But I am still praying and thanking Him.)
Larry Ledwick says… I would like that whole Darn law repealed. (A long with 90% or the rest of out useless laws and regs.)
Given your adventures over the past month, missing one TT post in that period is understandable and forgivable. Regardless of how the left wants to redefine physics, there are still only 24 hours in a day.
Yes, it is difficult to corrupt elections if the control is at a low level. The same logic applies to most other aspects of government too.
Only four federal government departments are constitutional, namely Defence, State, Justice and the Treasury.
The usurpation of powers by the federal government is our road to serfdom (hat tip to Hayek).
An item on recent intelligence community leaks to the press re: the hack
The NSC under Obama has been a bag of worms for a long time, with poor leadership and support from the President and lack of skill and background from its players. Like LBJ in Vietnam they over manage trivia and don’t think strategically for the long term.
You just turn the whole thing around. Obama already showed us that he considers the entire US government as a weapon to be used against the USA and esp. His enemies with the whole IRS targeting Conservatives debacle.
When the heads of each admin department is a political appointee, you know Obama would bless a leak that would hurt Trump, Russia and the USA.
Speaking of DHS, IRS and the US government being used by the Globalists against Trump and Americans, Sundance has a good article FBI Releases Unusual Sunday Document Dump RE: “Clinton Investigation – Mishandling Classified Information”…
Of importance is some of the comments.
I do not trust these Sons of Worms any further than I can toss them. After all the Clintons have already proved they will sell out the USA to China and that they will over through the governments of Egypt, Libya and the Ukraine. Why would we think the USA is bullet proof
To add to my above links to the Where is Eric Braverman videos.
Well I am glad that the current administration is on the ball and trying to shut down Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions!
More concerning is this item, which if the media was doing its job should have been part of an open discussion a few months ago, but they were so certain that Trump would not win they focused on triva, and trying to pump up HRC’s deflating campaign.
There have been rumors of suspicious connections between Trump and Russian Mob figures for some time (not all that surprising given the grip of the mob on some aspects of the construction trades), but that still leaves the question of just how exposed he is to their manipulation, and are these allegations true?
Image from twitter so you will have to manually enter the links.
Here are the FT links in usable form:
The FT advocates free markets and is in favour of globalisation.
In the U.S. presidential election in 2008 the Financial Times endorsed Barack Obama. While it raised concerns over hints of protectionism, it praised his ability to “engage the country’s attention,” his calls for a bipartisan politics, and his plans for “comprehensive health-care reform”. The FT favoured Obama again in 2012.
On another note, Trump would not be the first President with known connections to organized crime. The Kennedy fortune was built on liquor smuggling during the great depression, and FDR worked a deal with the Italian Mafia during WWII to assist the allies in their operations in Italy.
Lyndon B Johnson had ties to the Bobby Baker scandal and Billie Sol Estes, and some have implied that he was connected to Texas organized crime and political murders. Sam Giancana is said to have been in Texas at the time of the Kennedy assassination to supervise the operation and to have told others both Nixon and LBJ knew about it. His brother Chuck and son Sam Giancana Jr. wrote a book called Double Cross which makes the same charge that Dallas was a combined operation of his Mob and the CIA.
Major political corruption has been a fixture in politics for many years going back to figures like Tammany Hall and Huey Long
The lingering question in high level politics is are we ever free of organized crime influence?
Look at the crime cartels in Mexico which effectively run the country. (at least in the northern part near the boarder).
Here is an earlier Braverman video – Day #53: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCTzFNrsKns
It is a synopsis since the others were taken down. No surprise there.
On the question of Federal control of elections and DHS.
Larry, do you believe anything currently published in the MSM.
Ummm maybe 10% – 50% depending on the source, they all usually have some truth in them but most are either missing important qualifications or context or misrepresenting facts to give a false impression.
The trick is to tease out the true part and discard or decode the misrepresented part.
In many cases you need time to do that so on its face I don’t fully believe any news story, only over time do you find out the missing elements and agendas driving the stories, and you can only do that by looking at the same issue from many view points and doing some digging.
Sort of like asking do you believe the used car salesmen when he tells you how wonderful the car is or how great the financing package is, or how he will stand behind the 30 day warranty for key components?
I guess the point is you have to realize what the media is selling. Years ago they were selling credible news to their customers the public, somewhere over the last 40 odd years they shifted and now they are selling advertising, and see the public as their gullible marks in many cases. Their first loyalty is no longer the truth or the credibility of their message it is now how effective their message is at selling advertising or an agenda. They only seek the minimum credibility necessary to keep advertising rates up through page traffic, and web clicks etc. In that sense their new product is not truth but sensationalism to drive page traffic.
It happened sometime in the ’70s? IIRC. When the FCC mandate for news-as-public-service was lifted and they moved to ‘infotainment’ to keep eyeballs on the program.
When it was mandated, it was seen as a necessary cost center and the goal was reputational. “must carry” anyway, so keep the reputation up. (And put it on at 11 pm when everyone was going to bed anyway and ratings were shit).
When it was made entirely optional, it had to compete with soap operas and ‘reality TV’ on a cost basis and on a revenue basis. That’s when it turned into ‘selling advertising’ and “unreal reality BROKEN NEWS! Foo Dumps BAR for a hot babe! News at 10!”…
The other thing that killed it on the news paper side is the death of classified advertising in the newspapers as craigslist and ebay became prime ways to sell stuff people wanted to get rid of.
Also the social media killed the personal want ads, and folks started dropping weekly newspaper subscriptions and shifted first to TV for news then to the web.
When reliable subscribers were no longer a source of revenue through subscriptions and classified ads, they changed their focus to keeping the paid advertisers happy rather than the subscribers who placed classified ads. Their first move was to jack commercial advertising rates, and here in Denver that drove several of their long term commercial advertisers to the web.
E.M.Smith says: “It happened sometime in the ’70s? IIRC….”
I know for a fact that the Kent State Riot Story (Monday, May 4, 1970) was misrepresented. A friend was a student there. The protest was NOT ABOUT VIETNAM! It was about students on the GI bill of adult age being denied the right to vote.
To drive home the fact that the students were rioting ‘over the vietnam war’ They then put out a completely faked news story COMPLETE WITH FILM FOOTAGE of a riot on my college campus. I walked through that ‘riot’ several times during the day and never saw the riot or any film crews yet it made national news on ALL the news channels…. EXCEPT in the state where the college was located.
I know this happened because I was an out of state student and got a frantic call from Mom after the 6:00 news. My instate friends checked with their parents and they never saw the story.
I never believed the news from then on.
Check out the WIKI on the riots or any other reports and you NEVER see a DAMN THING about the real reason for the riots. Why? because if the public KNEW the protest was about the town refusing to allow men who had served the right to vote AND that the state added insult to injury by FIRING on and KILLING those men from a legitimate and Constitutionally protected right to protest this encroachment of their rights by the town and state all hell would have broken out. Therefore it was necessary to make the students the bad guys.
Even these guys get the story wrong:
It is interesting. Ten years ago I researched the ‘nam protest that never was at my university and there was nothing in the records. Now the Alumni Assoc has a piece on the Riot that never happened.
And that boys and girls is how history is rewritten.
By the was that town law prohibiting full time students from voting was very much aimed at military GI students.
On Trump and Mob connections. The guy lives in NYC, Of Course he has mob connections.
Heck I was born in NYC, moved upstate at age two and I have ‘mob connections’ as did my parents if you wanted to bother to look. Goes with the territory.
I have been friends and caving buddies with the nephew of a mob boss for forty years. (He knows the real God Father) We lived next door to a mob boss at one point and Dad was driven out of his job and NYC by the Mob among other connections.
That side steps that the shooting incident was due to incompetence and poor control of the National Guard troops and the prevailing climate regarding protests (with threats of major protests being floated around prior to the event, including violent protests in town prior to the ones on campus.) There were actually two protests that day, one of which was just wrapping up at about 1:00 pm and another after it, which was more aggressive that gotten out of hand with some protesters advancing on the National Guard Troops in a threatening manner. The troops were untrained in riot operations where issued live ammunition and were locked and loaded, and apparently panicked when the “protesters advanced on them as a group” (ie the commanding officer made several mistakes and lost control of his men. It appears that incident was a result of several errors compounding each other, started by an accidental discharge by an overwhelmed NG troop followed by a spasm or firing by others the majority of which were intentional warning shots into the air. Lots and lots of blame to go around and by now the situation is so murky it will probably never be resolved but there is no evidence that it was an “intentional – commanded” case of firing on unarmed protesters.
Trump just took aim at Jeff Bezos (Amazon and Washington Post) and China while he was at it. LINK
Yes it was stupidity, a complete ClusterF… However both the 1970 ‘stories’ I knew were warped to fit the narrative of ‘Students Protest Vietnam War’ just like all recent news stories are warped to fit the narrative ‘Trump supporters are violent’ or ‘Cops kill innocent blacks’ Politics not the truth are writing the stories.
Sorry if I am more willing in these two specific cases to believe:
#1. an eye witness, who was one of the GI’s denied the right to vote (Why would he lie 15 years later?)
#2. my own eyes, who saw ZERO riot when I walked across campus every hour or so from 7:00AM to 5:00PM.
This is not the only time I saw the news warp the story beyond all recognition just so it would advance a political agenda. A friend, diving a wreck in the St Lawrence River, died from nitrogen narcosis. The news story was he got run down and killed by a Russian (Soviet) trawler DESPITE a written statement given out by the lawyer who was his diving partner. His family went completely ballistic and jumped all over the 8 people diving with him that day baring them from the wake and funeral.
Again the Russian trawler story would be more useful in driving hate toward a specific set of people than the truth would be.
All these stories, the cop stories, the Trump supporter stories, the ‘Nam protest stories, have the same thing in common. No matter if there are actually a variety of stories ALL DIFFERENT, they are written as the SAME story and that story serves a specific political purpose that is driven home by repetition.
Another cop killer two officers dead. One shot one in a car crash. The scum also shot his pregnant ex-girlfriend to death.
No that is perfectly normal to have very different view from the “official track” as lawyers often see, eye witnesses can see and understand very different things based on their location and circumstances, and I have no doubt that the official story line has little relationship with reality.
Similar case is the common knowledge perception that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was “fabricated”.
I know a guy who was on one of the destroyers when the incident went down and the crew on the ship was absolutely convinced they were under attack. The fired over 280 3-inch and 5-inch shells during the “engagement” the first few shells resulted in the North Vietnamese responding with a torpedo attack and machine gun runs but left the ships unscathed except for a single bullet hole.
It likewise turned out to be far more complex that originally reported. At that point in the war the South Vietnamese were sending PTF (Nasty) patrol boats up the coast to insert special operations troops, agents and perform harassment raids. (these were follow on boats to the WWII PT boats for reference). The night of the “attack” one of those patrols had gone north and was returning south along the North Vietnamese coast being pursued at high speed by North Vietnam boats as I understand it. The USS Maddox saw this as a group of boats on an attack run against them and possibly an attempt to hide from radar against the back ground clutter of the coast. When the North Vietnamese broke off their pursuit they turned to sea ward and were seen to be turning on an attack run by the US ships.
In that sense it was legitimately perceived and reported as a North Vietnamese patrol boat attack on the destroyers Mattox and Turner Joy. Since the up the coast raid was top secret they did not want to “out that activity” against the north by the South Vietnamese and LBJ jumped on it as the provocation he needed to send significant military resources to South Vietnam. Once the media picked up the story of an attack and LBJ decided to report it as such as a provocation the cat was out of the bag and there was no putting it back.
After the initial incident LBJ ordered the Maddox and Turner Joy to make daylight runs near in off the coast of North Vietnam which of course resulted in follow up sorties by the North Vietnamese patrol boats.
But that night my friend spent a very nervous few hours locked down below decks under general quarters thinking their ship was about to come under torpedo attack.
It started out as a classic case of a mistaken engagement as military units under high alert misunderstood each others actions and the initial shots fired resulted in a real engagement as both sides took what they saw as defensive actions.
At least that is the best I have been able to glue all the various bits of information together some 50 years after the fact. But there is no telling if my interpretation is right or not but the best fit with what I know and what has been published from my point of view, same as your view of the Kent State situation.
No comment from me necessary IMO
FBI — White Hats/Black Hats….
Too complicated to summarize, but Comey is caught lying. The Sunday FBI Data dump goes missing and Sundance has a back-up copy…
Part I that I already mentioned: (It has the data dump)
FBI Releases Unusual Sunday Document Dump RE: “Clinton Investigation – Mishandling Classified Information”
Part II where things get fun as pieces start falling into place.
The Mysterious FBI Sunday Document Dump #5 and The “Missing” Clinton Seagate Hard Drive…
Seems the FBI/Comey reported the Seagate Hard Drive (Backup) as ‘missing’ when they actually had it…. (Clinton didn’t turn it over until she had no choice.)
One of the questions that Sundance addresses is if the Dump has anything to do with Obummer pardoning Hillary. That would leave Obummer and a lot of others WIDE OPEN.
This gets really interesting because if the skuttlebutt is true than once pardoned Hillary’s ability to use the 5th Amendment to refuse to answer questions disappears.
Attorney General Says Accepting Pardons Means Waiving Fifth Amendment Right
A lot more on how the Fith can and can not be used:
Lots of hate and discontent today about a major Trump vs Russia connection.
Now this is showing up, implying it was a joke that the media bought lock stock and barrel.
This morning some were saying that the intelligence folks briefed Trump and Obama on some things regarding connections (ie coordination) between Trump and Russia, money laundering charges etc. and long time financial dealings with folks connected to the Russian Mob. Seems to me it would be very hard to do anything in construction in New York without having some contact with folks with dubious connections to organized crime of one sort or another.
Now this evening the folks pushing it this morning are going silent – did they get suckered?
Are there real issues and exposures for Trump with Russia and Russian Mob?
Who knows, it might be weeks before we get any clarity on this, possibly a last minute political ploy by Obama fan boys in the intelligence community, maybe some real issues. I won’t judge at this time, too many of these sensational stories have blown up big time when people pulled back the covers to take a close look at the details.
Clearly the never-Trump and Obama/DNC folks are scrambling to throw everything at the wall to see if anything sticks.
4Chan is claiming they fabricated the anti-trump hoax
Can this election get any more bizarre?
Here is the WSJ version of this, seems the allegations have been rattling around for months behind the curtains but no one has been able t corroborate them with enough certainty to do anything. So at this point they are unsubstantiated (when something is unsubstantiated after months of examination by FBI and various intelligence agents it is either extremely unlikely to be true or profoundly complex and uncertain – or – they don’t want to officially endorse it for fear of opening a bigger can of worms for someone else.)
At this point I am going to file this under possible but not probable, and more likely a final death spasm by the folks opposed to what Trump represents to the old guard R and D power brokers and globalists.
The charges would be very believable in my mind if they person involved was Soros or one of his minions – perhaps even a false flag by him.
So far this is the first report that actually mentioned the actual nature of the “coordination” being alleged.
From twitter — the chain of custody of the allegations
Smyth Radio Retweeted
TheLastRefuge @TheLastRefuge2 2 hours ago
LOL “Russian Pee Gate” Story Chain of custody: => 4Chan -> Rick Wilson -> Evan McMullin -> John McCain -> Intelligence Community
Note both Evan McMullin and John McCain were Never Trump folks.
Rick Wilson is a national Republican political strategist and media consultant based in Florida who has produced television for governors, U.S. Senate candidates, super PACS, and corporations. He became well known during the 2016 United States presidential election for his public denunciations of Donald Trump and supporters of Trump. Wilson has written in The Daily Beast, Politico, New York Daily News, The Federalist, Independent Journal Review, and Ricochet.
Oh forgot to note Evan McMullin is a former CIA operations officer. My isn’t that convenient!
8 January 2017 at 5:12 am
What is amusing is that those who believe gun prohibition can work and those who believe drug prohibition can work are mirror images of each other. And most of them will tell you that “those other prohibitionists are not looking at the facts. ”
The cognitive dissonance all around is a sight to behold.
Gail Combs says:
9 January 2017 at 3:17 pm
Any intel agent not speaking out against the Drug War is on the other side. But of course this is a consideration:
“The Latin American drug cartels have stretched their tentacles much deeper into our lives than most people believe. It’s possible they are calling the shots at all levels of government.” – William Colby, former CIA Director, 1995
Not too long after making that statement he died in a boating accident.
Via a comment at Jo Nova
Wow, Trump just called out CNN as a fake news agency at his first press conference. He wouldn’t take the question from a CNN “reporter”. He was also very tough on the intelligence agencies.
He also talked about his meetings with businesses and the effect this will have on America (Good), and had a close attorney outline how he was going to sever his ties with his various business interests.
It is becoming pretty clear that we have a major back room brawl going on between the big government globalist deep state (including some inside intelligence and law enforcement) and those who want to rein in the government.
This is one of those historic situations that no matter how it works out will have major long term impacts on not only this country and the world.
If the deep state succeeds in a de facto coup by taking down or seriously wounding Trump before he even gets into office they may see a public back lash they are not expecting.
If by chance the allegations are true and Trump really is tainted so badly that he immediately gets bounced from office we then have the VPE Mike Pence moving up to be President.
If neither of these happen, the major media will have committed professional suicide and completely destroyed themselves as believable sources of news, and large bits and pieces of the government will fracture into factions supporting either side in this contest, which might last for years as the old school big government types are going to be kicking and screaming all the way to the door.
We are witnessing history and this situation could suddenly break in several different directions.
I guess all the average person can do is sit back and watch and try to keep out of the way until the final resolution is clear.
The view from the perspective of Politico
Two of the embedded links
Looks like some in the intelligence community are upset by the media leaks.
Take a Memo Intelligence guys, big business has to control info leaks too, and any senior executive has had to deal with this sort of thing many times.
What we’re getting fed
They must be pretty confident that they can prevent him from becoming President.
Otherwise all of the heads of the IC community have just committed job & political suicide.
The next thing they will find is their own ex departments investigating THEM as well as the media.
The election is over. The question is – can the MSM get any more bizarre and uncredible?
The whole Trump/ Russian ties crap is coming apart fast.
$Chan claims the ‘Golden Shower’ spoof. On top of that Trump is a KNOWN germophobe who never shook hands before the campaign. Also Trump said he has warned multiple people over the years (Miss Universe contestants in Russia for one) about audio and cameras in hotel rooms in foreign countries so watch what you say and do or you may find yourself on TV.
So that kills that part of the report.
Mike Cohen was named as Trump’s go between and a date and place (Prague) were mention for a meet with the Russians. Just one problem. Mike was with his son at a college campus talking to athletic coaches and two verify this.
So that kills that part of the report.
The capper comes from Paul Joseph Watson :
Russian tech expert named in Trump report says US intelligence never contacted him.
philjourdan says: ” …The election is over….”
You would never know it from the way the Demon-Rats, MSM and now the Intelligence Community is acting. They are really hoping to declare the entire election null and void or if that doesn’t work impeach Trump.
Now the Congress critters are going to have a meeting on Russian Hacking. (Eye Roll)
Where in HE!! have they been for the last twenty years while the Chinese were striping our companies, universities and government of intellectual property??
These are just the articles I bookmarked in passing:
Old link: 12/13/2011 — China Based Hacking of 760 companies reflects Undeclared Global Cyber War
Which helps China’s race for patents
April 2011 Oak Ridge National Laboratory Hacked
11/12/2014 — Chinese hack U.S. weather systems, satellite network “Once again, there is reason to believe the attack comes from China.”
Businessman admits helping Chinese military hackers target U.S. contractors
U.S. Charges Five Chinese Military Hackers for Cyber Espionage Against U.S. Corporations and a Labor Organization for Commercial Advantage
Stealing technology means they will always be 1 generation behind in innovation. The Chinese present growth advantage will be short lived as they are committed to building out obsolete technology, and not the creation of the next. Bureaucrats look in the rear view mirror to do their planning for creating the future. I have great faith in the ability of Chinese bureaucrats to lock their society into a rigid model without innovation and progress. This has been their model for 3,000 years. They are nearly at the end of this Great Leap Forward. It is the Americans that will lead this century just as they have done in the last…pg
John Bolton on the recent leaked Trump Dossier
(short version – his friends laughed when they read it)
Interesting look at the company that was the source of the report.
FWIW, I tracked down the purported “document” behind the ‘report’. It has enough ‘odd things’ in it to shout “FAKE!” at me. For example:
“odd’ markings like stains. Looks like an image editor used to ‘smear’ bits to make it look stained. Ends look rounded like a round ‘tool’ used.
Wavy look to text lines and text rotated on page, tries to make it look like multi generation photo copy. Looks like text manipulation / image rotation to me. Odd ‘paper’ color more like a color wheel choice. Repetitive “storyline” way more than any professional report. (same claims in several places) Crazy claims. (Hire prostitutes to Pee On A Bed? Crazy talk.)
It just doesn’t ring true to me at all, and it has a load of red flags IMHO.
Soros groups want to try and shut down the inauguration with protests.
They can try, but I think they will find the Secret Service less tolerant than local police; and all military and police leaning pro-Trump…
Glenn Greenwald Discusses “The Deep State” With Tucker Carlson…
Brother, they really really really want war with Russia!
CIA Coup? Ex-Spook: Langley ‘Taking Traitor Trump Out Now’
I have no doubt that Flynn was trying to make sure we didn’t end up in a war with Russia.
Obama shut down a Russian “Spy Base” on the Eastern Shore of Maryland.
Of course it could be a ‘spy base’ but we already knew that Russian diplomats are spies and always have been. So what else is new?
Publius Huldah gives The President’s Enumerated Powers, Rulemaking by Executive Agencies, & Executive Orders.
(I am not going to try and excerpt this because you can not.)
With Constitutional Supreme Court justices to back him, Trump could undo a heck of a lot of damage.
She says of herself: “Lawyer, philosopher & logician. Strict constructionist of the U.S. Constitution. Passionate about The Federalist Papers (Alexander Hamilton, James Madison & John Jay), restoring constitutional government, The Bible, the writings of Ayn Rand….”
(Interesting how the writings of Ayn Rand are becoming more popular. ConservativeTreeHouse quotes Rand.)
OathKeepers Org says of her:
So how does the extreme left (Berne supporters and those to his left) see the current situation?
A look at their take on the current political climate.
Yeah I have been watching Schindler for quite a while, he has some very interesting views on international affairs, but he describes himself as a “Social Democrat” politically and seems to be very much connected to that “7th floor” group at Langley he refers to as does McMullin who was part of the source chain for the dossier released into the media.
He has been very quick to take offense to some of Trump’s comments (many of which I took to be very minor verbal shots at the CIA and some of its well known screw ups and politicization of intelligence going back to the skewed Iraq invasion intelligence. He has consistently put a very negative spin on Trumps Russian connections, implying that he is a puppet of Russian intelligence.
I will be the first to acknowledge that some of the connections known about Trump/Russia are a bit worrisome depending on how credible they are, mostly in regard to his connections with some in the Russian Mob (which is very closely connected to Putin since his essentially a mob boss who happens to be senior leader of a government).
That said, a fair assessment has to also consider there are other points of view here. Schindler is prone to feeding sinister interpretations with veiled comments that lead the observer to jump to unstated conclusions and he implies he has a direct pipeline of information from the intelligence community. He used to be technical director of one of the NSA’s branches as an intelligence analyst but no longer works for the intelligence community, or the Navy War College. Given his indiscreet twitter episode in 2014 you have to question why he got pushed out and by whom.
For Trump if you work in high dollar construction projects in New York, New Jersey, and similar places in other countries you would by necessity have to have some contact or connections to those connected with organized crime because they are deeply connected with the construction and other key trades (teamsters, longshoremen etc.) and have been for generations. It is physically impossible to do business without having some interactions. On the positive side that also means Trump knows how things work in the back rooms and has the necessary connections and institutional knowledge to understand what is going on behind the curtains.
It does appear to me that there is a “back room brawl – or perhaps a civil war” going on inside the intelligence communities and that raises the possibility that some elements of those groups are not as interested in the welfare of the US as they are in their own little fiefdoms and back room manipulation of all sorts of things.
This could be a very dangerous time for Trump if that sort of thing is going on. Keeping in mind many think the CIA had a hand in the JFK assassination feeling they got hung out to dry by JFK in the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. If that sort of faction does exist inside our intelligence community I shudder to think about where that could lead!
Lacking inside knowledge people will just have to go by their hunches and gut instincts on who is to be trusted and who the villains are, but it is clear that the “powers that be” are being watched more closely by more people than at any time in history and if the intelligence community or a faction of it or the deep state really tries to take down Trump in any sense, they had better be right or they will pay a fearful price as the backlash from the Trump train will be a force to be reckoned with.
Larry Ledwick says:
13 January 2017 at 5:06 pm
What they (Berne supporters etc.) leave out is a very important part of leftism for the last 40 years. Drug Prohibition has taught the left that it is unwise to have the government take an interest in it’s citizens.
I had the argument with a radical lefty at Century City (before the riot started) back in the 60s. Nothing has changed – except the left is starting to lean libertarian. Too much government is teaching its lessons.
Worth a repeat:
The thing that is clear to our overlords is that I have no secrets in the Internet Age. What is not yet clear to them is that neither do they. Any action on the secrets they hold is a reveal. So their knowledge is of limited value or useless. Counterproductive even.
Of what use is a self destruct button? I’m not a Christian. At all. But the best advice I can give them is, “Go in peace.” If you need to own something try owning yourself. Because that is an infinitely harder job than owning a civilization. And infinitely more worthwhile.
Of course it could be a ‘spy base’ but we already knew that Russian diplomats are spies and always have been. So what else is new?
All diplomats are spies.
It appears to me that Matt Karp sees the correct evidence and draws all the wrong conclusions. Liberal collage trained Elites of both parties just don’t get it. America is a very conservative country. Most Democrats are conservative but have been locked out of the political process by the left wing of their party. Only populous candidates can win their backing. Professional Republican politicians always sell out to the professional Democrats for safe seats of their own and then become National losers. Only an outsider can command enough of the the voters in the middle to win by getting them to the poles. Now the Elites demand their party move even further to the left. Sanders won his backing by being anti establishment, `in-spite of, not because of, his Communist bent. Trump won by being anti establishment, not because of his conservative credentials. Profession Liberal Elite Politicians of Both parties are OUT of favor. They all don’t get it…pg
A C Osborn says:
12 January 2017 at 9:10 am
What got Kennedy shot? My guess is that Trump intends to complete not just talk.
This is as good a guess as any: http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/VietnamCIADrugs.htm
Social Democrat is the modern cover word for Communist. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and many other politicians have bragged that they are Social Democrats…pg
Another assessment of what is going on in the intelligence community (ie the Obama NSC etc.)
Larry Ledwick says:
13 January 2017 at 6:25 pm
What was the classification? “Totally fake but we are pushing it anyway.”
Trump said it was a top secret report but I do not know exactly what classification it had as there are several sub groups of TS classifications and to my knowledge no one has published a redacted cover page of the report which would have the official classification headers and footers on every page, along with classification markers for the paragraphs as individual paragraphs in a classified report like that can have originated at various other classification levels all the way down to unclass (U).
The bogus document that came out of that ex British intelligence guy had a classification banner that is not used by either the US or British Govt. so that should have been a big caution flag to everyone.
Steve Harvey @IAmSteveHarvey 1 hour ago
My meeting with @realDonaldTrump …
Some inside poop on the DNC/Podesta hacks and WHY “The Russians Did IT” is political wishful thinking and NOT actual solid evidence.
First as I mentioned somewhere before with links, the DNC and Podesta wouldn’t allow forensic testing of devices. The Intelligence Community took Crowdstrike’s word. The firm, Crowdstrike, is on the DNC’s payroll. Any conclusions they provide should be met with skepticism.
Dmitri Alperovitch is the Co-Founder and CTO of CrowdStrike Inc. He was Born in Russia 1980 and moved to U.S. in 1995. Alperovitch was named Foreign Policy Magazine’s Leading Global Thinker for 2013, an award shared with Secretary of State John Kerry, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. He was the recipient of the prestigious Federal 100 Award for his contributions to the federal information security in 2011 and recognized in 2013 as one Washingtonian’s Tech Titans for his accomplishments in the field of cybersecurity.
Note that Dmitri has good reason to HATE Russia and therefore is going to be inclined to see Russians under the bed. Also note Dmitri’s response to Guccifer’s taunting him.
Oct 24, 2016 Esquire: The Russian Expat Leading the Fight to Protect America:
In a war against hackers, Dmitri Alperovitch and CrowdStrike are our special forces (and Putin’s worst nightmare).
Dmitri Alperovitch is also a Senior Fellow at a think tank that seems particularly happy about the new Cold War because the Atlantic Council promoting the Trans-Atlantic Free Trade Agreement”, TAFTA, or TTIP, The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP). What is TTIP? And six reasons why the answer should scare you
Articles by Atlantic Council Org.
Dmitri Alperovitch http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/about/experts/list/dmitri-alperovitch
Trump Must Stand Up to Russian Cyberattacks
June 14, 2016 DNC Hack: ‘No Certain Links’ to Foreign Governments
Larry Ledwick says:
13 January 2017 at 8:40 pm
Larry, I got confused too.
There were TWO reports. The fake report on Trump (just now) and another earlier classified report on Russian Hacking. BOTH reports got leaked to the media
The fake Trump report went to Buzzfeed and CNN and the earlier went to ?NBC?
Yes the National Security Council is a disaster, prior administrations were just a handful of people but Obama staffed it up with dozens of hard core fanboys and they were sticking their gooey fingers into everything, micromanaging things like approving strikes in Afghanistan etc. and they are an absolute sieve with lots of leaks to their favorite pet propaganda outlets.
The Russian hacking report got to NBC (and later some items were confirmed to CNN) before Trump had even been briefed on it, so almost real time release to the media when Obama saw it.
IMHO, Kennedy was done in by a consortium of the CIA and Mafia with the Secret Service being neutral to ‘bamboozled” by the CIA.
Don’t forget that Old Man Kennedy made his bones in the booze running business, i.e. Irish Mafia, as in the one in the Valentine’s Day Massacre where the Italian Mob did the shooting… so then a generation that same Italian mob thinks that same Irish Mafia has dishonored an agreement again? Oh, and the CIA was working closely with them since W.W.II when Lucky L. handed us Sicily on a platter complete with guides, maps, and stable ports… Season with the CIA knowing Kennedy almost started WWIII …
Now? Well, I suspect that outside the politicized top layer the bulk of the professional staff in the Agencies would be pro-Trump and anti-Wish-Washer-in-Chief… so would “make the right noises” and have scheduling issues until 20 January, then have a party … Also Trump will be known as a trustworthy man to the Mafia (having kept up his end of construction deals and shared the wealth…) so they will be out of any deal (figuring they have a gravy train of infrastructure projects coming..)
In short, I think Trump will be fine, as long as he is a bit cautious for a week..
From twitter – on that same note:
Stefan Molyneux Retweeted
WikiLeaks @wikileaks 2 hours ago
NOTE: No present WikiLeaks staff, including our editor, have medical, psychological or drug conditions which could lead to sudden death.
IMHO, one the better reads on JFK’s Demise. (ICYMI).
LBJ and the Conspiracy to Kill Kennedy: A Coalescence of Interests
CIA Officials Continue Efforts To Marginalize President Trump Via Washington Post…
Contains a video and transcript of Trump describing the forces arrayed against us.
Then there is this interesting read… I have not checked it out.
Aug 2015 CLUES UNLOCK OBAMA I.D. MYSTERY: FBI Soviet spy files, SUBUD cult, and a dead body
If true it would seem that Putin slipped the leash and has gone nationalist and not Globalist Commie so he now must be punished.
Must be very irritating when you finally get the commies in power in the USA and the Soviets in Russia go capitalist/nationalist on you!
Gail, video from one of your links:
This video was recorded about 1984 (14 years after Yuri Bezmenov defected in 1970)
It is interesting to watch with prior knowledge of what would happen in the Soviet Union 8 years later, but also chilling as many of the steps he describes can be seen in daily events today.
The first cycle got aborted by the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1992 but that just appears to have frozen the process in time not stopped it.
The CIA has not given up pushing the Russia — Trump — Hacked election crap.
The CIA, Washington Post, And Russia: What You’re Not Being Told
Relates the long history of the CIA using the MSM to feed disinformation to the public.
And that leads to this story:
Democratic Rep. John Lewis says Trump is not a “legitimate president,” citing Russian meddling
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