Trump – Months 2 and 3

Well, it’s been an exciting first month. We’re now in the second month and I’m hoping this posting will be enough for the next 2 months, but we’ll see.

The prior thread is here:

With other related topics here:

After Flynn was scalped, now we have Sessions getting a recuse haircut. Trump and team need to learn that it is a bad idea to feed the aligators… (It is illegal in Florida, and for a reason. If fed, they keep coming back for more…)

The Concern Trolls are out in force fretting about all things Russian:

“Are you now, or have you ever been, anywhere near a Russian?”…

Frankly, I just don’t get it. Russia didn’t “hack the election” (though they did assist in publication of the DNC et. al. emails, I’d wager). We The Deplorables voted for the guy we wanted, and got him. End of story.

I’m still not seeing what is so horrible about Russians. They are basically just Europeans. Only without the Soros Globalist Agenda…

That must be it. Soros has paid for a vendetta on Putin and all things Russian as retaliation for being kicked out of Russia by folks with clue.

Shumer The Camera Hog is four walling on the news. I’ve stopped watching the news…
(It was either that, or losing a few pounds from inability to stomach anything but Scotch…)

The POTUS Trump gave a spectacular State Of The Trump speech to congress. A CNN Poll (so their audience with all their biases and propaganda layered on daily) gave it a 78% Approval rating. The CNN Talking Heads looked green and “bracing themselves” when they had to read that out over the air… Couldn’t happen to a better batch of folks.

So it goes.

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250 Responses to Trump – Months 2 and 3

  1. John F. Hultquist says:

    There are many many people that still do not have a clue about Trump.
    Some seem to think a president should go to finishing school and major in etiquette.
    Reading some about the behavior of previous presidents might be a good use of their time.

  2. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes some of LBJ’s antics would be a good place to start.

  3. p.g.sharrow says:

    One could say that the “Beast” is earning his name as he tromps on or trumps the Liberal Progressive agenda.
    It remains to be seen if he will earn the sobriquet of “Wise Old Man” from the rest of us?…pg

  4. omanuel says:

    So far, I am very pleased with his performance.

    By 1 April 2017 I hope to publish a new paper to celebrate the Centennial of Paul K Kuroda’s birth with additional evidence that the National Academy of Sciences betrayed the public after nations and national academies of sciences were united under the UN on 24 OCT 1945.

  5. Steven Fraser says:

    I recommend A blended Canadian whiskey as a change of pace.

  6. gallopingcamel says:

    You need to watch Jeff Sessions on TV. He has a twinkle in his eye.

    My guess is that the “Fake News” about Russia is about to backfire. The Dems have nothing to offer “We The People” but identity politics and character assassination.

    If there is a problem for Donald Trump it is his spineless, lilly livered “Friends” in the GOP. It used to be Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Lindsay Graham and John McCain. Now we have Darryl Issa and his bunch of hyenas. Introducing a “New Order of Things” is really difficult:

    And it ought to be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things. Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. This coolness arises partly from fear of the opponents, who have the laws on their side, and partly from the incredulity of men, who do not readily believe in new things until they have had a long experience of them. Thus it happens that whenever those who are hostile have the opportunity to attack they do it like partisans, whilst the others defend lukewarmly, in such wise that the prince is endangered along with them.
    Nicolo Machiavelli (1469 – 1527), The Prince, Chapter VI

  7. gallopingcamel says:

    The people who did well under the old conditions control the media, large corporations, banks, academia, trade unions, unelected bureaucrats etc. For the last 40+ years the USA has been run for the benefit of the people who run the country.

    The people who will do well under Trump’s “New Order of Things” are the workers who have been betrayed by both major political parties, the inhabitants of inner cities ravaged by crime and the rest of the “Forgotten People”.. Somehow Trump must transform the GOP into the “Worker’s Party” controlled from the “Bottom Up” rather than the “Top Down”.

    It won’t be easy but if the GOP leadership fails to deliver on the promises that Trump made to the American people we need to replace them with folks who will.

  8. Larry Ledwick says:

    The new Interior Secretary made an impressive entrance on his first day on the job.
    (Gail you will like this!)

  9. Gail Combs says:


  10. Chiff says:

    I would make sure whoever replaces Sessions in this matter let it be known that they will expand the Russian election interference investigation by also focusing on the Russian/Clinton/Giustra deal and any Clinton/Russian meetings that took place during that timeframe. BTW, why doesn’t Trump unseal Obama’s college transcripts?

  11. philjourdan says:

    Ah, but while the YSM continues their selective amnesia, the Alt Media does report real news. Sucks to be Claire McCaskil! The democrats still have not learned they no longer own the news.

  12. Gail Combs says:

    Phil says ….The democrats still have not learned they no longer own the news.”

    Oh yes they have and they are moving to censor the media they do not control.

    David Seaman and now Milo for example. Hillary already singled out Breibart and others such as Drudge were told they were going down. link

  13. Gail Combs says:

    Oh, and to ad insult to injury… Fake News Watch – Washington Post Hires Paid Mouthpiece of Dictators, John Podesta UNBIASED??? Of Course…… NOT.

    “…Saudi Arabia has over 26 firms working for it, far more than any other country, including Russia….” Well that explains the Muslim Brotherhood USA and Huma.

  14. philjourdan says:

    You (respectfully) disagree with me, and then prove my point!

    Oh yes they have and they are moving to censor the media they do not control.

    They “think” they can eliminate the media they do not like! Want to talk to the Chinese about that? They have a ton more experience, and they still have not mastered it. And theirs is a closed shop.

    They WANT to control the media, and they THINK they can. But they DO NOT. Anyone with a keyboard and thought can run rings around the YSM and the democrats.

  15. Another Ian says:

    “Speech Restrictions Will ALWAYS Be Enforced Assymetrically
    March 3, 2017, 9:43 am

    One of the larger problems with speech restrictions is that they will always be interpreted and enforced asymmetrically. Don’t believe me? Consider this tweet from the Left during the Obama Administration:”

  16. Another Ian says:

    And irony in action

    “When Government Picks Winners, It Mostly Chooses Losers”

    “Energy statists on the Left today are trying to get rid of coal-fired electricity generation in this country (due to climate concerns). But one thing that few people remember is that a significant reason we have so much coal-fired electricity generation in this country is that energy statists on the Left in the 1970’s mandated it. I kid you not:

    The Powerplant and Industrial Fuel Use Act (FUA) was passed in 1978 in response to concerns over national energy security. The 1973 oil crisis and the natural gas curtailments of the mid 1970s contributed to concerns about U.S. supplies of oil and natural gas. The FUA restricted construction of power plants using oil or natural gas as a primary fuel and encouraged the use of coal, nuclear energy and other alternative fuels. It also restricted the industrial use of oil and natural gas in large boilers.”

    And more

  17. Larry Ledwick says:

    Brent Bozell on twitter regarding the Sessions political hit job regarding the Russian Ambassador.
    Seems the meeting was at the request of the Obama administration???

  18. Glenn999 says:

    “If I could have done so in good conscience, I would have been pleased to demonstrate my integrity, and immediately silence the criticism, by getting off the case. Since I believe there is no basis for recusal, I cannot. The motion is Denied.”

    interesting look at sessions recusal of russia probe


    Can God’s control over climate and weather be modified, or amended by made-made CO2 emissions? Is it possible to void the miracles of God by the actions of man-made CO2 emissions?

    Genesis 7:12 The rain fell on the earth for forty days and forty nights. (NASB)

    Could controlling man-made CO2 emissions have prevented forty days of rain and the great flood? Of course not.

    Jonah 4:8 When the sun came up God appointed a scorching east wind, and the sun beat down on Jonah’s head so that he became faint and begged with all his soul to die, saying, “Death is better to me than life.” (NASB)

    Would it have been possible for Jonah to be spared the scorching wind if men had controlled their man-made CO2 emissions? Certainly not.

    Genesis 8:22 “While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, And cold and heat, And summer and winter, And day and night Shall not cease.”(NASB)

    Can restricting man-made CO2 emissions determine cold, heat, the temperature in summer and winter. Can man-made CO2 emissions control the seasons. No it cannot.

    If men who claim to be followers of Jesus Christ believe that man-made CO2 emissions can control weather, climate, and seasons, then, why would anyone look to them for spiritual guidance concerning salvation?

    Psalms 148:8 Fire and hail, snow and clouds; Stormy wind, fulfilling His word; (NASB)

    This fulfills God’s word, what does man-made CO2 fulfill?

    Job 1:16 While he was still speaking, another also came and said, “The fire of God fell from heaven and burned up the sheep and the servants and consumed them , and I alone have escaped to tell you.” (NASB)

    If men would have restricted their CO2 emission, could they have prevented God from destroying Job’s sheep, and servants? No, of course not.

    2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. (NASB)

    No amount of man-made CO2 modifications, can cause or prevent the earth from be burned up.

    Revelations 20:14-15 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

    Men need to stop worrying about the false doctrine of man-made global warming and start being concerned about the warming of the lake of fire.

    How to get your name written in the book of life.
    1. Faith: John 3:16
    2. Confession: Romans 10:9
    3. Repentance: Acts 3:19
    4. Immersion in Water: Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38


  20. E.M.Smith says:


    Looks like that “Obama Did it” has hit the YSM news this morning, who are dissing it. Trump has tweeted that Obama had him wire tapped.

    It’s going to be an interesting weekend…

  21. Larry Ledwick says:

    Lots of noise and fluff this morning on that issue, nice article in National Review about the possibility that FISA was misused for political purposes by those not constrained by ethics.

  22. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    David Mack‏Verified account @davidmackau
    Statement just in from @BarackObama spokesman on Trump wiretap claims

    Penelope Craft‏ @PWCrafty 1h1 hour ago

    @Shark_Bee @davidmackau @jonfavs It says Obama didn’t order it, and never interfered w DOJ. Doesn’t rule out that DOJ asked FISA for warrant

  23. Larry Ledwick says:

    Given the Obama administrations record for pushing the envelope in several areas including wiretaps and surveillance this charge is not at all unreasonable.

    Just asking for a friend – would Eric Holder or Valerie Jarrett be considered White House officials?

  24. Larry Ledwick says:

    From Twitter:
    Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸‏Verified account @Cernovich 51 minutes ago

    Obama used the IRS to target political opponents (Tea Party).
    Why wouldn’t he use DOJ to target Trump?

  25. Larry Ledwick says:

    Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸‏Verified account @Cernovich 1 hour ago

    Obama prosecuted more journalists under the Espionage Act more than all previous administrations combined. Of course he spied on Trump.

    Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸‏Verified account @Cernovich 1 hour ago
    Why do Trump’s tweets outrage the media more than Obama’s sending journalists to prison? What is WRONG with the media?

    Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸‏Verified account @Cernovich 1 hour ago
    Mike Cernovich
    🇺🇸 Retweeted Michael B Dougherty

    “The White House” never ordered a tap is lawyer speak for, “DOJ did.” Notice the lack of a total denial from Obama. This is treasonous!

    Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸‏Verified account @Cernovich 1 hour ago
    Obama SPIED on journalists, no outcry from the opposition media. Amazing how that works.

  26. E.M.Smith says:

    I just note in passing that “Obama never ordered a tap” does not preclude Obama politely asking if a direct report would consider it a nice thing to do… and could a report be ready by Tuesday were it done… Hey, these folks are the party of “what is is”…

  27. LG says:

    I believe this Zerohedge article is well worth the read.

    Obama Advisor Rhodes Is Wrong: The President Can Order A Wiretap, And Why Trump May Have The Last Laugh

    Following Trump’s stunning allegation that Obama wiretapped the Trump Tower in October of 2016, prior to the presidential election, which may or may not have been sourced from a Breitbart story, numerous Democrats and media pundits have come out with scathing accusations that Trump is either mentally disturbed, or simply has no idea what he is talking about.
    The best example of this came from Ben Rhodes, a former senior adviser to President Obama in his role as deputy National Security Advisor, who slammed Trump’s accusation, insisting that “No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you.” He also said “only a liar” could make the case, as Trump suggested, that Obama wire tapped Trump Tower ahead of the election.

    No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you.
    — Ben Rhodes (@brhodes) March 4, 2017

    // would appear, however, that Rhodes is wrong, especially as pertains to matters of Foreign Intelligence Surveillance, and its associated FISA court, under which the alleged wiretap of Donald Trump would have been granted, as it pertained specifically to Trump’s alleged illicit interactions with Russian entities.
    In Chapter 36 of Title 50 of the US Code *War and National Defense”, Subchapter 1, Section 1802, we read the following:

    (1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
    (A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at—(i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title; or(ii) the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title;
    (B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party; and
    (C) the proposed minimization procedures with respect to such surveillance meet the definition of minimization procedures under section 1801(h) of this title; andif the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.

    While (B) seems to contradict the underlying permissive nature of Section 1802 as it involves a United States person, what the Snowden affair has demonstrated all too clearly, is how frequently the NSA and FISA court would make US citizens collateral damage. To be sure, many pointed out the fact that Fox News correspondent James Rosen was notoriously wiretapped in 2013 when the DOJ was investigating government leaks. The Associated Press was also infamously wiretapped in relation to the same investigation.
    As pertains to Trump, the Guardian reported as much in early January, when news of the alleged anti-Trump dossier by former UK spy Chris Steele broke in January:

    The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation.

    Furthermore, while most Democrats – not to mention former president Obama himself – have been harshly critical of Trump’s comments, some such as former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau was quite clear in his warning to reporters that Obama did not say there was no wiretapping, effectively confirming it:

    I’d be careful about reporting that Obama said there was no wiretapping. Statement just said that neither he nor the WH ordered it.
    — Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) March 4, 2017

    // also urged his twitter followers to read a thread that explicitly suggested the prior existence of FISA-endorsed wiretaps:

    Ok you definitely need to read this thread
    — Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) March 4, 2017

    //, Philip Rucker, the WaPo’s White House bureau chief echoed Favreau’s caveat, namely that the Obama spokesman’s statement does not deny the existence of wiretaps on Trump Tower, only that Obama himself and the Obama White House did not approve them if they did exist.

    The Obama statement does not say there was no federal wire tapping of Trump Tower. It only says Obama and White House didn’t order it.
    — Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) March 4, 2017

    // implying the existence of such a wiretap was David Axelrod, who tweeted today that that such a wiretap could exist but would have “been OK’ed only for a a reason.”

    If there were the wiretap @realDonaldTrump loudly alleges, such an extraordinary warrant would only have been OKed by a court for a reason.
    — David Axelrod (@davidaxelrod) March 4, 2017

    // ironically, it was none other than the Trump administration which just earlier this week announced it supports the renewal of spy law which incorporates the FISA court, without reforms: “the Trump administration does not want to reform an internet surveillance law to address privacy concerns, a White House official told Reuters on Wednesday, saying it is needed to protect national security. The announcement could put President Donald Trump on a collision course with Congress, where some Republicans and Democrats have advocated curtailing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, parts of which are due to expire at the end of the year.”

    “We support the clean reauthorization and the administration believes it’s necessary to protect the security of the nation,” the official said on condition of anonymity.
    The FISA law has been criticized by privacy and civil liberties advocates as allowing broad, intrusive spying. It gained renewed attention following the 2013 disclosures by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden that the agency carried out widespread monitoring of emails and other electronic communications.

    In any event, the bottom line here appears to be that with his tweet, Trump has opened a can of worms with two possible outcomes: either the wiretaps exist as Trump has suggested, and the president will use them to attack both the Obama administration and the media for political overreach; or, there were no wiretaps, which as Matthew Boyle writes, would suggest the previous administration had no reason to suspect Trump colluded with a foreign government.
    Senator Ben Sasse said as much in his statement issued earlier today:

    The President today made some very serious allegations, and the informed citizens that a republic requires deserve more information. If there were wiretaps of then-candidate Trump’s organization or campaign, then it was either with FISA Court authorization or without such authorization. If without, the President should explain what sort of wiretap it was and how he knows this. It is possible that he was illegally tapped. On the other hand, if it was with a legal FISA Court order, then an application for surveillance exists that the Court found credible.

    But what is perhaps most important, is that we may know soon enough. As the NYT reported on Saturday afternoon, a senior White House official said that Donald F. McGahn II, the president’s chief counsel, was working on Saturday to secure access to what the official described as a document issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing surveillance of Mr. Trump and his associates.
    If and when such a document is made public – assuming it exists of course – it would be Trump, once again, that gets the last laugh.

  28. llanfar says:

    Last was Stefan Molyneux – this is the Still Report… Trump – Obama Wire Tapped Trump in Last Month of Campaign

  29. LG says:

    This Zero Hedge article is well worth the read.

    Obama Advisor Rhodes Is Wrong: The President Can Order A Wiretap, And Why Trump May Have The Last Laugh

    In Chapter 36 of Title 50 of the US Code *War and National Defense”, Subchapter 1, Section 1802, we read the following:

    (1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that

    (A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at—
    (i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title; or
    (ii) the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title;

    (B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party; and

    (C) the proposed minimization procedures with respect to such surveillance meet the definition of minimization procedures under section 1801(h) of this title; and
    if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.


    Jon Favreau‏ @jonfavs

    I’d be careful about reporting that Obama said there was no wiretapping. Statement just said that neither he nor the WH ordered it.


    Philip Rucker‏ @PhilipRucker

    The Obama statement does not say there was no federal wire tapping of Trump Tower. It only says Obama and White House didn’t order it.


    But what is perhaps most important, is that we may know soon enough. As the NYT reported on Saturday afternoon, a senior White House official said that Donald F. McGahn II, the president’s chief counsel, was working on Saturday to secure access to what the official described as a document issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing surveillance of Mr. Trump and his associates.

    If and when such a document is made public – assuming it exists of course – it would be Trump, once again, that gets the last laugh.

  30. E.M.Smith says:

    So you’re saying that now it comes down to who sits on the FISA court, how big is their shredder, and are documents numbered and binary image archived…

    Oh, and maybe who sits on the court that oversees the FISA court…

  31. Larry Ledwick says:

    Other considerations, is such an announcement might also serve to “smoke the rats out” or prod a whistle blower to come forward. Make a major announcement like this and then watch who has urgent meetings with whom, who is suddenly busy and not taking calls, who is having late night shredding parties etc.

    A third possibility is an illegal leak of wire taps through back door sources, remember Sid Blumenthal Hillary’s go to trouble shooter was feeding her classified info almost in real time from 3 letter agency sources that have never been adequately investigated.

    If a tap existed it might have been an illegal tap outside formal channels by partisan players or even private security folks hired through the HRC channels with multiple layers of obfuscation, or even a foreign intelligence service favorable to the globalist cause leaking info into the campaign infrastructure via Sid B. or others.

    It will be very interesting to see who “protests too much” and who sits on their hands etc.
    Also we have data captures through the digital media giants who were clearly on side with HRC and Obama who might have “intercepted” text messages, phone meta data etc. or even foreign Press like the news organizations out of the UK who got caught red handed hacking celebrity cell phones.

    There is a long list of suspects here that do not necessarily fall under the formal wire tap laws.

  32. LG says:

    Many apologies about the double posting.
    For some reason it had appeared that WordPress had eaten the first formatted Zero Hedge article, hence the repost.

    [Reply: No worries. The first one was in SPAM (who knows why) and when that happens it just seems to have disappeared. The other one was already up, but I fished the second one out anyway. -E.M.Smith ]

  33. LG says:

    And then there’s this:

  34. Larry Ledwick says:

    It will be interesting to see if the Left decides to Burn Obama to limit damage to the globalists, I could see a scenario where he ended up going to jail and they create an instant Liberal Martyr and in the same stroke paint Trump with the brush of a run away dictator who locks up his opponents, solidifying their claim he is a Nazi figure.

    I guess it depends on who has what on who and how exposed the big money behind Obama is.

    We are getting into Machiavelli / Rasputin (Valarie Jarettes’ nick name) 101 palace intrigue here – No telling where this could go given the current mood of the country, and the professionally offended class.

  35. E.M.Smith says:

    IMHO they hatched the plan to try to paint Trump as Russian Influenced from the start and were trying for the setup all along. From Hillary and her “Puppet” jab (that Trump tossed back at her) clear to now. The problems was that there was no ‘there, there”. So kept escalating. Doing the trap on Sessions of arranging for him to meet the ambassador (wonder what listening devices were in use for that…) and on and on. Once really ‘into it”, they forgot to be careful about themselves and their actions being uncovered. Hubris all the way. So went for the wire tap.

    Then they lost the election… and now they are still trying the same playbook, but without the “cover” of office. So needed to finish getting Sessions out of the way so an Obama person would be running any investigations involving “Russians”… Almost made it, too…

    At this point, any investigation needs a non-Democrat to avoid Obama issues. (ANYONE who has been picked by Obama or even had private meetings with him needs to recuse themselves… Tit, meet tat…)

  36. H.R. says:

    Larry: “It will be interesting to see if the Left decides to Burn Obama to limit damage to the globalists, I could see a scenario where he ended up going to jail and they create an instant Liberal Martyr and in the same stroke paint Trump with the brush of a run away dictator who locks up his opponents, solidifying their claim he is a Nazi figure.”

    There are ways the Deep State could make HWSRN a martyr tomorrow, if ya know whudda mean, Vern. Blame Trumpsters and no need for something damaging to slip out during court proceedings.

  37. Larry Ledwick says:

    By the way from twitter :
    John Schindler Retweeted
    JΞSŦΞR ✪ ΔCŦUAL 3 hours ago

    #FLASH UPDATE – 4 hrs ago Alex Oronov, another Russian with ties to Trump is now dead.
    That’s 8… that we know of.

    Now I have no idea if this is valid and who might be cleaning up the mess (Russia, Soros the Russian Mob . . .) But given how many folks Putin has put out of circulation it might be most anything or anybody for any reason — only time will tell.

  38. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Stefan Molyneux Retweeted
    WikiLeaks‏Verified account @wikileaks 7 minutes ago

    Obama has a history of tapping & hacking his friends and rivals #NSA #PRISM #Merkel #Sarkozy #BanKiMoon #WTO #Trump

  39. Larry Ledwick says:

    One more view on the Trump Tweets about possible politically motivated “wire taps”

  40. E.M.Smith says:


    And people call me over the top about security on phones and networks….

    My next phone likely to be a home made encrypting phone… unless the PGP folks get a product out I like first… Prism via Microsoft sucking up Skype and more…

  41. Larry Ledwick says:

    well Nokia I think it was, is re-issuing a dumb phone, (text and calls only) all they need to do is add high quality encryption.

  42. Larry Ledwick says:

    The web never forgets:

  43. Larry Ledwick says:

    Another bit of hanky-panky by the Obama administration using the Justice department to extort money out of banks and specifying that they pay their penalties to 3rd party leftest groups rather than give the money to the Federal Treasury. This sounds like something that could be terminated with an executive order pending action by Congress to make it illegal to do anything with such penalty payments other than transfer it to the general fund.

    It is just appalling all the ways the Obama administration seeded corruption into the major executive branch departments (DOJ, IRS etc.) If the Media would report on this aggressively the public would be up in arms over these ethical failures.

  44. David A says:

    Is that where the bank fines went; to leftist advocacy groups. Certainly that must be illegal already?

  45. A C Osborn says:

    I think this post on “Tips” should really be here.

    llanfar says:
    6 March 2017 at 1:37 pm

    Former AG Loretta Lynch Calls For Political Violence? Stefan Molyneux

    Interesting turn near the end when he notes that under POTUS Trump child trafficing/sex arrests have gone up 45x. What does Lynch know that she’s calling for violence?

  46. E.M.Smith says:

    (Gateway Pundit) – TGP reported earlier that the first FISA request came right after AG Loretta Lynch met with Bill Clinton on the tarmac at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport in June of 2016.

    The second FISA request was submitted in October of 2016 just before the election. Hillary Clinton sent out a tweet on October 31st stating that ‘computer scientists have uncovered a covert server linking the Trump organization to a Russian-based server’.

    It appears she was tipped off to the wiretapping prior to the election.

    So my question is:

    IF there were no surveillance, from where did Hillary get the information about a “server linking the Trump organization”?

    (Who went looking and using what authority, if any, I don’t know)

    Then, what great secrets were being exchanged by Trump and The Russians?

    Hotel marketing SPAM!

    It took the infosec community about ten minutes to debunk the Slate story. This entire Twitter thread explained the technical details if you’re curious. What Slate was seeing was actually a marketing email server sending spam. The low-level pinging between Trump’s old 2009 mail server and a bank in Russia was just a response to marketing spam that had been set up and forgotten about. The so-called “Fifth Avenue server” referred to the WHOIS business address on a reg record, and the whole thing was outsourced to a marketing company.
    Researcher Rob Graham wrote, “The domain was set up and controlled by Cendyn, a company that does marketing/promotions for hotels, including many of Trump’s hotels.” He added, “Cendyn outsources the email portions of its campaigns to a company called Listrak, which actually owns/operates the physical server in a data center in Philadelphia.”

    After the blistering debunkings by infosec denizens, there was a second article by the same author arguing against the very thorough debunkings done by the researchers. There is so much effort throughout the follow-up article to confuse the reader into thinking there’s something conspiratorial and unanswerable going on, that one of the debunkers wrote a second debunking of the whole damn thing.

    Golly, a major hotel chain marketing their product to international bankers… the horrors… /sarc;

  47. E.M.Smith says:

    Dear Donald:

    Having problems with leaks? Need the Department Of Justice to get in line with your agenda? I have a modest suggestion: Announce “The Clinton Plan” and that you will be modeling your behaviour on that of Bill Clinton. Then fire their collective asses.

    President Trump should just go for it and fire the Democrat U.S. attorneys. It isn’t unusual to do this.

    Remember when Bill Clinton told Janet Reno to fire all Republican U.S. attorneys, all 93 across the country, in 1993? They wanted a department that reflected their administration.

    The Clintons were good at firing. You might remember the Travelgate scandal. They fired the people who do all the travel arrangements, then hired their friends who happened to have flown on an airplane once.

    Just sayin’…

  48. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting twist to the computer security / political dirty tricks stories.

  49. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting observation here about the possible true motivation for the Presidents tweets over the weekend — maneuver the Democrats into destroying their own story line about Russian hacking of the election.

    Trick or Tweet!

  50. philjourdan says:


    another Russian with ties to Trump is now dead.
    That’s 8… that we know of.

    My bet is the Clintons. That is their trademark. Tit for tat. Trump agrees not to go after Hillary, and the cli-mafia takes care of the witnesses. ;-)

  51. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting back story here regarding the Clintons and the campaign.

  52. E.M.Smith says:

    “Based stick man”? What a name…

    It looks like all his charges are weapons charges. While several mention pepper spray, it looks like they are “and other stuff too” laws. So most likely the “weapon” is the stick.

    So his “crime” is doing the job of the police when they just stood around… OK…

    How to avoid this:

    First, hockey gear includes light weight arm and shin guards that would go nicely under loose clothing. Strictly defensive.

    Second, a hard hat or motorcycle helmet is “just a hat”.

    Third, gas mask purely defensive.

    Now the hard bit. From karate class “Every block is a strike and every strike is a block”. Using your protective grear, you only “block” attacks. To the face if needed…

    Advanced bits: from Aikido… anyone who advances gets a counter grab, push then pull spin and drop, optional karate side kick to whatever is exposed… spin… NEXT!

    No weapons. No attacking posture. Always slowly retreating and clearly “under attack”…

    I think someone needs to start a class…

  53. gallopingcamel says:

    Trump is awesome. He makes it look easy…………..even effortless.

    He undermined the media, Barack Obama, the “Deep State” and globalists generally with four tweets on a Saturday while these folks were resting.

    Now we need his “Friends” in the GOP “leadership” to wake up and turn this into a Tsunami.

  54. gallopingcamel says:

    While the YSM fixates on trivia such as Kelly Ann Conway making herself comfortable in the oval office the Alternative Media needs to fixate on Obama’s Spygate.

  55. L says:

    I still haven’t figured out where in the heck the “based” part of that name came from, anyone have a clue?

    His arrival was absolutely inevitable as long as the Antifa and the police continue their charade. The question is will the next rally have a phalanx of similar “defenders” of the tribe?

    The good news is his defense attorney can rack up about 30 videos to demonstrate a need for defensive tactics and dress if you go to a “peace full” pro Trump rally.

    I hope he gets a 100k defense fund.

  56. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well somehow I truncated my name to just L (was in a hurry)

  57. Larry Ledwick says:

    (By they way EM – check moderation queue my previous miss named post went there)

    Interesting observation about the recent hubbub regarding Trump being tapped.
    This makes perfect sense to me, and would explain a whole lot. Lets just suppose that Obama (or Clintons) had a completely black (no pun intended) project to bug Trump that was completely off book (ie officially it did not exist). In that case the official leadership at CIA, NSA, and FBI could ernestly say how silly it is for any one to suggest the former President bugged Trump during the election cycle.

    If they were too clever by half and thought they could fool the Secret Service monitoring methods using advanced techniques (like being able to shut off the bugs when a sweep was happening) but something went wrong and their super magic extra special sauce bugging system was not as fool proof as they thought and it got discovered by the Secret Service when they were doing routine checks or just accidentally tripped over it while doing some sort of maintence (oh look what is this odd gizmo in the Presidents phone??)

    One of the secondary possible consequences of trying to find leaks by giving selected info to certain people would be accidentally outing something else. For example following the leaks and the exposure does not follow the pattern of release you would expect if the people were actually leaking but some other common denominator cropped up. Then you start looking for unusual vectors for the information not at the people you suspect were the leakers.

  58. E.M.Smith says:

    All this talk of FBI and FISA court and all ignores one key point.

    The NSA reports only to the Executive as a military branch. The Commander In Chief can just issue them orders.

    Now season with FISA court orders that basically say tap everyone you think is a risk…. the FISA court usually issues orders for large groups and classes not individuals.

    From the wiki per NSA:

    The National Security Agency (NSA) is an intelligence organization of the United States federal government responsible for global monitoring, collection, and processing of information and data for foreign intelligence and counterintelligence purposes, a discipline known as signals intelligence (SIGINT). NSA is concurrently charged with protection of U.S. government communications and information systems against penetration and network warfare. Although many of NSA’s programs rely on “passive” electronic collection, the agency is authorized to accomplish its mission through active clandestine means, among which are physically bugging electronic systems and allegedly engaging in sabotage through subversive software. Moreover, NSA maintains physical presence in a large number of countries across the globe, where its Special Collection Service (SCS) inserts eavesdropping devices in difficult-to-reach places. SCS collection tactics allegedly encompass “close surveillance, burglary, wiretapping, breaking and entering”.

    Unlike the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), both of which specialize primarily in foreign human espionage, NSA does not unilaterally conduct human-source intelligence gathering, despite often being portrayed so in popular culture. Instead, NSA is entrusted with assistance to and coordination of SIGINT elements at other government organizations, which are prevented by law from engaging in such activities without the approval of the NSA via the Defense Secretary. As part of these streamlining responsibilities, the agency has a co-located organization called the Central Security Service (CSS), which was created to facilitate cooperation between NSA and other U.S. military cryptanalysis components. Additionally, the NSA Director simultaneously serves as the Commander of the United States Cyber Command and as Chief of the Central Security Service.

    Originating as a unit to decipher coded communications in World War II, it was officially formed as the NSA by President Harry S. Truman in 1952. Since then, it has become one of the largest U.S. intelligence organizations in terms of personnel and budget, operating as part of the Department of Defense and simultaneously reporting to the Director of National Intelligence.

    So was there a FISA court order to bug folks “suspected of being Russian foreign agents” or “communications with Russian Government” so no new order needed? Or did O as Commander In Chief just call up the NSA and ask them to provide what they already have?

    No FISA court order was needed for the NSA to set up PRISM and start collecting ALL data transmissions globally, including domestic. They buggered computers, operating systems, routers and more at the manufacturer and without any probable cause needed. The goal being “total information awareness”. Emphasis on total…

    So why bother with FISA and the FBI when you have a secret supplier who reports to you?

  59. Larry Ledwick says:

    This might need a new topic — Major Wikileaks release summary of the juicy bits.

  60. Gail Combs says:

    philjourdan l
    You (respectfully) disagree with me, and then prove my point!
    The Progressives are trying. Does not mean they will succeed. (Sorry if I did not make myself clear. I see red at the overt attacks on our Constitutional rights.)

    Oh and while Twatter is censoring, Milo, conservatives and Trump’s feedback from supporters, they ALLOW calls for assassinating a sitting president!
    SICK! Twitter Allows Graphic Assassinate Trump and Pence Account

  61. Ian W says:

    All this talk of ‘wire tapping’ is somewhat passe. The TLAs do not have someone in a janitor’s boiler suit surreptitiously attaching crocodile clips and trailing wires to an exchange in the basement. The NSA quite literally is capturing everything then ‘on their honor’ not releasing it until FISA. This is the opening para of an article:
    “There’s an interesting article in the current New York Review of books (predictably, a book review) detailing the history of the National Security Agency, that shadowy power-behind-the-power to which we surrender much of our privacy. That in itself is interesting, but I found the introduction a bit shocking: the NSA is constructing a datacenter in the Utah desert that they project will be storing yottabytes of surveillance data…….
    The more salient question is, of course, what are they storing that, by some estimates, is going take up thousands of times more space than all the world’s known computers combined? Don’t think they’re going to say; they didn’t grow to their current level of shadowy omniscience by disclosing things like that to the public. However, speculation isn’t too hard on this topic. Now more than ever, surveillance is a data game. What with millions of phones being tapped and all data duplicated, constant recording of all radio traffic, 24-hour high definition video surveillance by satellite, there’s terabytes at least of data coming in every day.”
    This is described later as

    So just a friendly call to the military NSA from the commander in chief asking for information is all that is required. It need not even go through FISA. That commander in chief now could be 45 not 44 so the boot is now on the other foot. Is this why people are all moving into the same accommodation so no need of telecoms?

  62. Larry Ledwick says:

    A bit more on the splash back that the Progressives are getting from their own decades long misbehavior in high office.

    (ie don’t play with fire unless you want to get burned)

  63. Gail Combs says:

    They are raising funds for the ‘Based Stick Man’
    Terrific: $37,000 Raised for ‘Based Stick Man’ Legal Defense Fund – Defender of Trump Supporters

    A guy on Gateway Pundit in that article was already giving instructions on how to organize defence…
    FIRST you get your lawyers lined up…

  64. Gail Combs says:

    A few interesting items on the Trump wire tapping.
    First off Fire at Trump tower — Cleaning out the bugs???
    Officials say ‘suspicious’ fire at Trump International Hotel and Tower in New York was caused by faulty machinery in a room

    Summary of Media Articles Discussing Obama’s FISA Warrants To Monitor Candidate/President Trump…

    Here’s the List: More Than a Dozen Proven Victims of Obama’s Many Wiretaps

    40 Secret Service Agents Dove Into My Records Illegally” – Chaffetz | Obama / Wiretapping-{PLOT THICKENS}
    Chaffetz is NOT someone I would want to anger.

  65. Gail Combs says:

    Various Democrats outing themselves.

    Deep State Update: Harry Reid’s October Letter Shows He Likely Knew of FBI Wiretap of TrumpSenate Minority leader, Harry Reid sent him [Comey] a blistering open letter, accusing the FBI of withholding ‘explosive information’ linking Trump and his advisors to the Russian government…. “I wrote to you months ago calling for this info to be released to the public”.

    Hillary tweeted this a week before the election: “Computer scientists have uncovered a covert server linking the Trump organization to a Russian-based server.” Looks like she was expecting something to come of the wiretapping, thinking Trump was as dirty as she was and in her excitement she made it clear that she knew that Obama Admin was wiretapping candidate Trump.

    Maxine Waters, the gift that keeps on giving… (Remember the Ukrainian Prime Minister spoof)
    Flashback – Maxine Waters Brags About Obama’s Extensive Database On Everyone (VIDEO)

    Actual video of Lynch calling for ‘blood in the streets’

    And guess what?

    Attorney General Lynch Signed Off on ALL FISA Applications to WireTap Trump — OOPS…

  66. cdquarles says:

    @Larry, I think that NR doesn’t get it. Trump is brash and pugnacious. Sloppy and rash he is not. Trump is a sharp negotiator, and it shows. Reagan had some of the same qualities.

  67. Gail Combs says:

    Trump was well aware that his voters were mainly blue collar and geared his words and rallies towards them and not the elitist snobs. These gave the YSM a completely false picture of Trump.

    Trump’s hobby is reading contracts for crying out loud!
    ‘nough said.

  68. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes their normalcy bias forces them to attribute things that they don’t understand to carelessness or ignorance rather than a well honed instinct for triggering the opponent to paint themselves in a corner then force them to run across the wet paint.

  69. Larry Ledwick says:

    More coming out on the new wikileaks release — this is going to be big!

    I imagine stock prices for certain smart device companies are about to crash, and lots of folks will get a wakeup call that all that magic gadgetry has a price in lost privacy.

  70. Larry Ledwick says:

    More comment on Obama administrations history of misusing intelligence assets for partisan purposes.

  71. Gail Combs says:

    From a gateway Pundit comment….
    Link via Drudge:
    Wikileaks: CIA ‘Stole’ Russian Malware, Uses It to ‘Misdirect Attribution’ of Cyber Attacks
    Everyone knew it. Now we have proof.
    “Fingerprints” are meaningless.
    It’s now clear that the CIA is able to “pose” as “Russian hackers” whenever it so chooses.
    Just something to think about.
    All allegations of “digital fingerprints” left behind by Russian hackers must now be dismissed as either fake or meaningless:

    Video of highlights:

    An interesting comment:

    thmsmgnm • 2 hours ago

    The CIA Malware that can infiltrate and control vehicles is now raising concerns about the use of the malware for assinations. It also raises new questions about the death of a journalist in a one car accident in California.

    Doesn’t matter if it is true or not, this is the type of stuff that goes viral and makes people hate and fear their government… NOT GOOD.

    And it is already hitting twitter:

  72. Gail Combs says:

    From Time: Congress Can Remove Donald Trump From Office Without Impeaching Him

    Presidential psychology is quickly becoming a bipartisan issue. Recently, Senator Al Franken said that he and several of his GOP colleagues shared the opinion that President Donald Trump is “not right mentally.” Shortly thereafter, 35 mental health professionals — psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers — took to the pages of the New York Times to register their own concerns that the President was demonstrating “grave emotional instability.”

    These controversial armchair diagnoses are powerless on their own. But what if there was something that Senator Franken and his concerned colleagues could actually do? Constitutionally speaking, there might be….

    … a provision in Section 4 of the 25th Amendment that allows the Vice President and a majority of the Cabinet to send a letter to Congress stating that the President is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” This letter would immediately initiate a transfer of power to the Vice President, subject to additional Congressional review….

    They REALLY REALLY want him out of office don’t they?
    I thought the YSM attacks on Bush and Shrub were bad but this is completely over the top.

  73. cdquarles says:

    Methinks that the ‘opposition’s loud, Chicken Little like, or Boy who cried ‘Wolf’ like use of ‘mentally ill/unstable’, are akin to the “lady doth protest too much” and will backfire on them, bigly.

  74. Ian W says:

    Just a thought but I wonder if at the time 45 issued that tweet, he already knew supporting evidence was about to appear as the spooks were going into defensive mode? However, yet again unfortunately, we have the real working CIA workers being painted with the same brush as the politicized sub-groups which is totally unfair.

  75. Another Ian says:

    ” Hillary’s Podesta trousered $170K from Russian bank to fight against US sanctions”

  76. Gail Combs says:

    Don’t forget the pedophile rings…

    There is nothing concrete to report but this is some of the skuttlebutt:

    Given the domestic spying, and Wiener’s laptop plus Epstein’s island, I would not be surprised if there is a lot of dirt.

  77. E.M.Smith says:


    Yes, it needs a new heading / topic. I’m busy for the next 5 hours or so, then will have time. I also need to at least make a casual look at some of it to know what to put in the topic. Don’t know if I can get that done before the topic has gone OTT… Maybe I’ll just put up a skeleton…

    As they say “That’s gonna leave a mark”…

    Since he’s now outing sources and methods, I doubt Assange will last long. It’s a very bad idea to embarrass and cause pain to an organization that does assassinations for a living… He’s one walk on the patio under a clear drone filled sky away from a light VX shower…

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  79. Gail Combs says:

    May 29th, 2016 Donald Trump’s Campaign Manager Not Sure If Trump Offices Are Being Bugged

    The YSM suggestion is the bugging was by Trump.

  80. Larry Ledwick says:

    Another confirmation from a former insider at NSA regarding surveillance of Trump prior to the election.

  81. philjourdan says:

    @Gail – Yes, I agree they are trying. Sorry for my misunderstanding. If it was not so serious, their attempts would be laughable. Twitter and facebook can censor all they want. But the message still gets out. And that makes those who rely on only the YSM look like fools when they try to use it outside of their safe spaces.

  82. Gail Combs says:

    No problem Phil,
    I don’t always communicate well.

  83. Gail Combs says:

    The Trump ‘Smoking Gun’ has finally been found by the Democrats!!!


    Trump tower restaurants serve Russian dressing when requested….

  84. philjourdan says:

    @Gail – Re: digital fingerprints
    Everyone who is in the business knew that the supposed “fingerprints” they were using to blame the Russians were totally bogus. But to the layman, that seemed like damning evidence (and you can see the ignorant using that crutch throughout the forums). What Wikileaks did is make it common knowledge from a most reputable source – the CIA. Right now, Wikileaks is acting like the alternate media – exposing the lies of the YSM.

  85. Gail Combs says:

    That is why I read here even though I am ‘Computer Challenged’

    The keyword of course is “fingerprints” which was used intentionally to give the feeling that the evidence was completely damning.

  86. Larry Ledwick says:

    On an old topic related to all this the IRS “just found” 6000+ documents on the IRS targeting of the Tea Party. Law suits anyone?

  87. Another Ian says:

    Fruit Of The Democrat Tree
    By Kate on March 8, 2017 10:33 AM | 7 Comments

    Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!

    VP Candidate Tim Kaine, October 20, 2016: “You’ve got to accept the results of this election, win or lose. That’s the pledge we made. Hillary stood on the stage in the first debate and said, ‘Of course I’m going to accept the results of the election.”

    Twin Cities Pioneer Press, March 7, 2017 – Linwood Michael Kaine, 24, and four others were arrested on suspicion of second-degree riot after the “March 4 Trump” rally in St. Paul

    Categories: Drain The Swamp, Shootin’ At The Moonbats, The Tolerant Left, You Might Be A Liberal ”

  88. andrewsjp says:

    I hate to be dumb and out of the loop. What does YSM mean? Google doesn’t help.

  89. p.g.sharrow says:

    @andrewsjpYellow Journalism by the Main Stream Media is the Yellow Stream Media.
    YSM invented here by the council of wise elders. 8-) …pg

  90. E.M.Smith says:

    YSM writing yellow journalism by urinalists…

    So, fingerprints is a metaphor for “set of stuff that is indicative of a particular attack or characteristic of a particular person” … like my tendency to use ellipsis … but just like that, or starting sentences with “so,” anyone can copy it and pose…

    So it’s not a very good metaphor…

    Muddy footprints would be more accurate…

    Per the “bugging”: When all sigint is being collected all the time anyway, just what IS a bug?

  91. Larry Ledwick says:

    From Twitter:

  92. Gail Combs says:

    @andrewsjp Yellow Stream Media is produced by Urinalists.

    BTW Those names are now moving through the blog-o-sphere. I have seen them at other websites.

  93. Gail Combs says:

    Larry Ledwick says: @ 9 March 2017 at 6:52 am

    Can you forward that to Sundance? (I am still blocked)

  94. Larry Ledwick says:

    Gail I posted it in today’s open thread which will be seen by a lot of people at the same time.
    I’ve never posted over there before, so waiting for moderation.

  95. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 5 minutes ago

    US Intelligence Officer Lt Col Tony Shaffer: NSA Officials Who Hated Clintons Hacked DNC and Gave Emails to WikiLeak

    This raises an interesting possibility I had not really considered, – – –
    That we are seeing an internal battle between NSA and CIA. Suppose the CIA is fully on board with the Clinton/Obama politicization and the old hands at NSA are not? ( I quite frankly have not segmented out who is doing what to whom within the intelligence agencies [ I just am not very good at that sort of political infighting and intrigue ] so I might have the who’s who wrong but you get the drift)

    Are we seeing a turf battle between CIA, NSA, and FBI? (maybe with the FBI caught in the middle since it is not clear to me if Comey is on the Clinton’s side given past associations but his actions just before the election set the table for her down fall – – maybe he is just playing self interested politics trying to stay out of the cross fire if the big boys are duking it out in the back room)?

  96. Larry Ledwick says:

    The Toronto Sun has this item, commenting on a senior Iranian official claiming they have a covert guerilla army inside the US already and they are actively working with other countries like Mexico and Argentina which have issues with the US..

  97. E.M.Smith says:


    Yes, and their Guerilla (“little war”) Army is named the DNC… Notice how fully it forcefully pushes for wide open gates to Islamists from any and all countries?… Including those where we have an active war… (likely at Soros’s request, IMHO).

    Per FBI vs NSA vs CIA vs 14 others:

    I think there is a “5th Column” or three also.

    1) Those insiders who can no longer abide with their conscience. Snowden, for example.
    2) Those insiders who are agents of other powers. The 3 Islam Brothers with root access to congress.
    3) Outsiders working to undermine and set agency on agency. (China mostly, but maybe Russia and certainly Iran. Who else? EU? Merkel and Germany have ’cause’.)
    4) And more… Folks like “Frenemies” in the UK and Israel. “Allies” looking to shift things to their POV.

    Good luck trying to sort out all those currents and cross currents.

    In general, the NSA likes to play with signals intelligence and cool tech and doesn’t seem to think much about the who or why of it. Just hoover up all you can, neatly sort it, and crack into anything locked. The Geek Squad of spying. They think they are “special”, and in many ways they are.

    Also in general, the CIA likes to play Spy vs Spy. MOSTLY focused outside the country, but with lots of crossover now that we have Millions of foreigners living inside the border all the time with a few more millions entering every year or three. They like physical stuff more (interrogations, break-ins, agents, flipping agents, etc.) but have ventured into the SigInt business (despite directions not to…) and have been caught out at it. Could be an insider at the CIA not liking orders to violate the law directly. Could be NSA folks “noticed” what was happening and decided to “one up” the rival to reclaim the turf. Nobody but them will know.

    F.B.I. is in theory only to do domestic policing. BUT, since they catch the flack for ANYTHING that happens inside the USA, they are a bit jumpy anytime things go bump. So don’t like it when someone says a “wiretap” was done as it is in theory their turf, but they know other folks are running rampant. So bleat “It wasn’t done!” when the truth is “He did it!!! -> NSA GUY” but they can’t say that without finding their dirty laundry in the wind… (When you hack everything possible for SigInt, do you really think they skip the FBI offices?…) They also don’t want to admit that they are not up to the job and that the other agency has taken the turf, laws be damned.

    So how would I speculate this falls out?

    NSA has collected phone calls and computer traffic from Trump and Trump Tower. It’s just what they do. They collect everything on everyone if at all possible.

    The DNC and Obama started planning for a Russia Did It story line / attack on Trump, back mid-election (or maybe earlier) and started setting things up that way (like scheduling the Russian Ambassador to meet Sessions). PERHAPS asking the (politically controlled) CIA to help plant some bits of “evidence”.

    CIA wanted to get into the Spy VS Spy with Russia some more, so went looking for Trump / Russia dirt. This likely tripped over the NSA guys and they had a bit of a stare off in the phone closet or at the telco… or their two white vans were fighting for the same good parking space each morning. NSA didn’t like the CIA on their turf, nor the way the CIA was being used to choose the next POTUS.

    Someone (could be CIA Rebel With A Conscience, or NSA guy, or even real Russian) hacks DNC and leaves “Russian Fingerprints”. As this is harmful to Hillary, I suspect it was NOT the CIA proper. As it was “old kit”, I doubt strongly it was the Russians OR the NSA. My best guess is outsider agency, or a Conscience driven actor. BUT could be the NSA peeing in the CIA soup vis the Russia-Did-It con. Make it just bad enough it looks like a hack job by the CIA or at the minium like the CIA was incompetent, thus setting up a “you and him” fight of CIA and Obama)

    NSA (or potentially a CIA insider who can’t sleep anymore due to seeing himself / herself as a criminal) decides they’ve had enough with CIA acting outside the law on SigInt, so spill to Wikileaks.

    F.B.I. says “Never Happened!” and “Not on Our Watch” as they are supposed to be stopping it (Trump hacks and Russians in the USA and CIA in the USA and…) ’cause they can’t admit the alternatives. Comey is just doing duck and cover and political suck-up; while wondering how he got so far in over his head so fast when he just wanted to be Top Cop.

    CIA is now Royally Pissed and trying to figure out who to fry (or ship to a nice waky-waky morning cup of coffee in a foxhole in Syria between two lines that both want them dead…) Likely going to be a bit shell-shocky for a few months, so don’t poke them… or even shout loudly into your phone ;-)

    Putin is having a nice spa, and directing that American TV News be regularly recorded for his nightly post-dinner party, and asking if the FSB knows anything about it that isn’t in the news, and could they provide a summary of the Wikileaks each morning? The head of the FSB is asking for a summary from his staff tailored so he can claim they did it, even if they didn’t…

    At its core, the problem is the supreme Anti-American attitudes of Hillary and Obama mixed with their utter contempt for the rule of law; when that runs smack into agencies who are staffed with folks who strongly believe in America and the rule of law. The strain is just too much (for the individuals and for the Agencies) and things break down, or just break. Nudged on by outside Agencies for sure, but we’ve withstood that rot for generations. Until the rot comes from the top. It reaches the same point as the society at large reached when they voted for Trump:

    I don’t care what happens to me anymore. I don’t care if it destroys the {nation | agency | government | society}. This is so fundamentally wrong and evil it would be better to just break it all down and destroy it and start over than to let this run to completion.

    Thus the: “Sure Trump is a bull in the china closet. But he is OUR bull in THEIR china closet.” vote.

    I think something very similar is happening inside the CIA and NSA. “Sure this will damage the Agency. But given the evil they are doing, it is damage to THEIR Agency, not My Agency of before.”.

    Root causes fairly clear (the Hillary and Obama Show with Soros as Puppeteer) but exact script murky and individual actors opaque.

    How will it end? No idea. But I’d love to see: Trump roto-rooters both the NSA and the CIA and Comey finds a new job; IFF Trump has the time to do it while the alligators of the swamp are setting a dinner table for him… (as main course…) He needs a 100% purge of DNC folks from the Justice Department, staff it with his folks, then turn it loose on the Agencies of all nations, and especially Soros and his minions (like Obama, Hillary, et. al.) via RICO.

    Meanwhile, I’m just going to be watching the show and enjoying it all. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of folks. Just wish it wasn’t where all my tax dollars go to die. So much good could be done with them instead of this crap.

  98. Gail Combs says:

    Thanks Larry, The mods may alert Sundance and see that it gets it’s own page.

  99. cdquarles says:

    Excellent write-up, EM. Exactly so.

  100. Gail Combs says:


  101. Larry Ledwick says:

    Gail it just got past moderation a little while ago but is buried a bit in the older posts, will have to see what happens.

  102. David A says:

    Gail, maybe a lot like

  103. Gail Combs says:


    Actually you have to wonder what dirt Putin has on Soros and Clinton that they are working so hard to keep Putin and Trump far apart….

  104. Larry Ledwick says:

    The head of the EPA’s environmental justice program resigned
    Bummer dude – I will just sulk in the corner for – – – Oh wait I am done – See ya!

  105. Jeff says:

    From a quote within the article Larry noted:

    Mustafa Ali, a former senior to the administrator responsible for directing the agency’s actions protecting minority communities, stepped down in a letter to EPA administrator Scott Pruitt. He also voiced concern the Pruitt plans on gutting the project.

    Hmmm. Wonder which minority community Mustafa Ali represented (remember that Mo’s cousin/son-in-law was named Ali). [For some reason the song “I’m My Own Grandpa” is going through my head right now…].

  106. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well this is going to get interesting!
    Malik Obama on twitter posted a picture of B.H. Obama II Kenyan birth certificate.
    Have no clue if this is legitimate but it is going to create a stir I am sure.

  107. Gail Combs says:

    Love the foot print.

    Tony Heller had that up early this morning but the twitter link had already gone dead…. IMAGINE THAT!

    Rather an interesting bit. Supposedly Stanley Ann was at Washington Univ. 15 days after the birth but she might have been taking correspondence courses INSTEAD.

    Obama was supposedly born: August 4, 1961

    ….Dunham was registered for college classes in Seattle only 15 days after reportedly delivering her first-born child in Honolulu, according to school records. Stanley Ann’s University of Washington transcript documents she was using the name Obama in August 1961…

    [SEE Transcript below]

    According to this blog, Atlas reader Rudy emailed both the University of Washington and the University of Hawaii, and they sent him back dates of enrollment. It didn’t match the dates Wikipedia had for Stanley Ann Dunham. Bob tried to update Wikipedia and his updates got deleted within minutes.

    Here’s an email that was returned from the University of Hawaii in September, 2008:

    Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Hawaii for:
    Autumn 1961
    Winter 1962
    Spring 1962

    And here’s a letter that was sent from the University of Hawaii in November, 2008:

    “The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:

    Dates of attendance:
    Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
    Spring 1963 — Summer 1966

    Fall 1972 — Fall 1974
    Summer 1976
    Spring 1978
    Ph. D.:
    Fall 1984 — Summer 1992

    Degrees awarded:
    BA – Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
    MA – Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
    PhD – Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)

    Assuming these email responses were true, the University of Hawaii has Stanley Ann starting class in Sept 26, 1960 and dropping out for the spring semester (while pregnant). She then re-enrolled at the University of Washington in the autumn of 1961, just after Obama was born. Obama Sr. was still at the University of Hawaii, and graduated in 1962 while Stanley Ann was at University of Washington.

    So the University of Hawaii could not make up their mind whether Stanley Ann was at school in the fall of 1960 or the fall of 1961. (Looks like someone corrected the dates in the second correspondence to match the public story line.)

    Take a very close look at the University of Washington. The FALL just after Obama was born is listed as

    While the spring shows 10 credits earned.

    At the very bottom you have

    Stanley Ann WAS NOT AT Univ of Washington just after Obama was born!

  108. philjourdan says:

    @Larry – I saw the story (BHO II). What is amusing is that it is more historically accurate than the copy Obama has been pushing for the past 8 years!

    Time to get some more popcorn!

  109. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting observations about the cycle of history and how the stage has been set for turmoil and angry citizens being primed to push back against the government by its pattern of behavior.

  110. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well the other shoe finally dropped in the Justice department, per Twitter:
    Fox News Alert‏Verified account @foxnewsalert 35 minutes ago

    PROSECUTORS PINK-SLIPPED: Attorney General Jeff Sessions has asked for resignations of 46 remaining US Attorneys

  111. M Simon says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    10 March 2017 at 6:15 pm

    Re: Franklin.

    Sessions is a big fan of asset forfeiture. It operates exactly as Franklin described in item X.

    The Trump Administration is full of Trojan Horses.

  112. M Simon says:

    Gail Combs says:
    9 March 2017 at 3:39 pm

    Can you forward that to Sundance? (I am still blocked)

    You too? I got banned for my Drug War obsession. They are “Social Conservatives” and believe the Government should be the guardian of personal morality. i.e. vices should be crimes.

    Forgetting completely the lessons of Alcohol Prohibition. So much for “conservatives” being students of history.

  113. E.M.Smith says:

    @M. Simon & Gail:

    Well, welcome to your home away from home…

    I block obvious spam, folks who can not be polite (I don’t care what they espouse) and darned near little else. (Though for full disclosure: Attacking the host or other participants via attacks “to the person” is a clear class of “not being polite”> So don’t call me an ass-hole, say my ideas have the fragrance of the bowl about them and all is good ;-)

  114. M Simon says:

    Gail Combs says:
    7 March 2017 at 9:22 pm

    Don’t forget the pedophile rings…

    There is nothing concrete to report but this is some of the skuttlebutt:

    I’m skeptical of that whole line. So far nothing out of the ordinary has been done. I have seen rumors that Mike Pence’s best friend is one of the pedos. But only rumors.

    Also – anonymous sources – how can you be sure that “Angie” hasn’t added to or altered or made up the whole thing? I’d give it some credence when there are visible waves. Also – the VL site has an anti-Jew bias.

    BTW the pedo stuff is a long time intel trick for compromising targets. It used to be simple adultery or drug use was enough. Or being gay. Now something more is required. But is it as wide spread at high levels as advertised? Maybe.

  115. M Simon says:

    E. M.

    You have the best comment section of almost any place on the ‘net that is political. Heavy on resources. Light on fluff. So an atta boy to the commenters as well.

    I’m glad you moderate the way you do.

  116. M Simon says:

    Robert Steele on #PedoGate

    He mentions over 450 arrests. But a significant number of those arrests are of ordinary Johns and hookers. So right off the bat he is exaggerating. And his “I got my information from reading around” is not very persuasive. I only watched the first 8 minutes. The interview was published on 17 Feb 2017.

  117. Larry Ledwick says:

    Very interesting article which tries to explain the real agenda behind much of the legal manipulation which took place during the Obama administration. Short version it was the legal rape and plunder of the populace through a convoluted maze of laws, regulations and built in kick back systems.
    It was basically a huge rip off operation (not a big surprise) but the author explains who the system was set up to work.

  118. M Simon says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    11 March 2017 at 12:39 am

    Did you know that under Bush II (at least) HUD was laundering Drug Money? Catherine Austin Fitts broke the story.

    You can read some bits of it here:

    Or do some searching.

    Without that money laundering (the cut for the banks is 30% aprox.) the financial system would collapse. Normally the excesses in the system are wrung out by depressions and bank and business collapses. That has been disallowed for the banks (and GM and Chrysler) this time around.

  119. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well at least now the globalist meme is going public.
    from twitter – these two tweets came out just 13 minutes apart.

    Free Beacon‏Verified account @FreeBeacon 2 minutes ago

    .@billclinton: People Who Want Nation-States Are ‘Actually Trying to Institutionalize Division Within Borders’

    The above short link points to this url

    Fox News‏Verified account @FoxNews 15 minutes ago

    Rosenberg: The last time…countries were moving in the same direction toward nationalism it led to the greatest World War in human history

  120. Larry Ledwick says:

    WND posted their 2009 investigation into the supposed Obama Birth certificate from Kenya. Apparently this is flash back to a prior release of this document.

  121. Larry Ledwick says:

    Note I have no clue if this is real but just showed up on twitter:
    It says Nanch Pelosi was just taken in handcuffs from her office by Secret Service

    This is either a huge bogus news item, or very big news, more to follow I am sure.

  122. Larry Ledwick says:

    A couple other outlets are picking up the story but details included in the stories seem a bit fishy, at this point. Name of Secret Service source sounds bogus (troll).

  123. Larry Ledwick says:

    As I suspected it appears to be a totally bogus report, only 3 or so really fringe sites picked it up, and a couple mentions on forms and then deafening silence. Wording of the announcement was suspect from the get go.

  124. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting article which talks about how the major media missed the train on the last election by putting too much importance on the opinion of folks just like them and not enough on folks from other corners of the country.

    Includes a link to a resource I had never heard of – apparently a news aggregation site used by journalists.
    Might be interesting to watch it for a while.

  125. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting from CNN about “anger” due to the firing of the Democratic appointment lawyers at the Justice department.

    Apparently they are upset getting out of the blue pink slips like most average workers get.
    Given the political sabotage and back biting going on, a no notice clean sweep is the best way to avoid (or minimize) the departing attorneys from leaving little Easter egg surprises for the new administration.

  126. Gail Combs says:

    The Urinalists are getting nasty…
    Gateway Pundit Reporter ACCOSTED, HARASSED — Screamed At in White House Press Room: “Nazi… White Supremacist!”

    Lucian Wintrich sent this report:

    “This man accosted me. He pushed me in the back room and then grabbed my arm. He started screaming to the entire press room that I’m a Nazi and The Gateway Pundit is a white supremacist publication.”

    The Gateway Pundit reporter is gay and considering filing charges. I certainly hope he does. It will be instructive to see what White House Urinalists tell the truth and who lie to cover up for FOX radio Jon Decker. There were two assaults reported by Lucian.

    “Jon Decker is a board member of the White House Press room… “

  127. Gail Combs says:

    FOX radio contacts:
    Phone: 212-301-5439
    Write: FOX News Radio
    1211 Ave. of the Americas 18th floor
    New York, NY 10036

  128. Larry Ledwick says:

    This should be interesting – one of the US attorneys is refusing to resign.

  129. Glenn999 says:

    There is a really scary video online showing Pelosi Galore at various news conferences. They ask the question if she is insane or not??? I couldn’t watch more than a minute….cue the eerie sound effects….
    there are so many; start here if you dare:

  130. Larry Ledwick says:

    No thanks no need to watch, I firmly believe she is nutty as a fruit cake and probably in early stages of some sort of mental deterioration disease. To say some of the stuff she says with a completely straight face you would have to completely Looney Tunes nuts or the most audacious con artist in history.

  131. E.M.Smith says:


    Since she represents “my TV area” we get to see her on TV news far more than I can take without medication… She has some disorder, but I’m not sure which one. “Deer in Headlights” syndrome when questioned… “Anger Management Issues” when not getting her way. and more…

  132. Glenn999 says:

    okay Larry, Here ya go. Enjoy All!
    Here is Dennis Miller on Pelosi Galore
    extremely funny in my humble opinion

  133. philjourdan says:

    @M. Simon – “The Trump Administration is full of Trojan Horses.”

    Please explain further.

  134. E.M.Smith says:

    All the folks put in place by Obama, Hillary, and Neocons / Bush… How many pro-Trump small government folks work in D.C.? Feel free to use both fingers and toes since he has a cabinet now… /sarc;

  135. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    You Do know that the Russians used microwaves to bug the US Embassy? They had given a nice carved wooden plaque to the ambassador. Inside was a simple metal strip. The wood vibrated the strip, and it was measured via microwaves. That was maybe 30? years ago. Technology is better now.

    Millimeter wave (nearly microwave and would likely be called microwave by non-technical folks) can be used to image through things, like clothing and window shades….

  136. M Simon says:

    philjourdan says:
    13 March 2017 at 1:51 pm

    Trojan horses – people not loyal to him.

  137. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:

    Game on with the tax returns:

    Fox News‏Verified account @FoxNews 8 minutes ago

    .@TuckerCarlson on @POTUS tape: “If someone stole the biggest news story of the year out of your office, you might want to find out how.”

    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 17 minutes ago

    Trump could sue MSNBC and put them out of business, but who would notice?

    dwnews‏Verified account @dwnews 18 minutes ago

    The @WhiteHouse says President @realDonaldTrump made more than $150 million in income in 2005 and paid $38 million in income taxes that year

    Stefan Molyneux‏Verified account @StefanMolyneux 24 minutes ago

    In 2014, The New York Times legally PAID NO TAXES and received a tax refund of $3.6 million despite earning a $29.9 million pretax profit.

    Jim Acosta‏Verified account @Acosta 48 minutes ago

    WH responds to MSNBC report on Trump tax returns: “you know you are desperate when you willing to violate the law…”

  138. Larry Ledwick says:

    So big announcement they had his tax returns.
    Someone mailed them to NBC (note absolutely no proof where they came from of via who).

    The White House dumps the key bits of the info, showing he paid 25% tax rate on 150 million in earnings (that’s a higher rate them most average Americans, and far higher than major corporations like GE and the New York Times which often get refunds back on millions of earnings by working the system)

    Net result scoop stolen, possible major law suite if criminal violation in releasing confidential records, and folks are comparing NBC’s “scoop” to Geraldo opening of Al Capone’s vault (ie one of the biggest media jump the shark moments in history for scoop reveals).

    They played their hand DJT gets the next move. – suit, ridicule, major distraction that buries meme about the Obama care repeal and replace, criminal charges or investigation.

    I need more popcorn.

  139. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:

    The Beltway Times‏ @beltwaytimes 3 minutes ago

    We now know this:
    In 2015, @BarackObama paid a 19.6% tax rate
    In 2013, @SenSanders – 13.5%
    In 2005, @realDonaldTrump – 25%
    Thanks, @maddow!

    Note according to this article in The Hill, his losses reported in 1995 ($916 million loss) were big enough that it could have allowed him to pay no taxes for the next 18 years (until 2013), so NBC just proved that he did not take that total deduction and paid taxes anyway in 2005.

  140. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    The Beltway Times‏ @beltwaytimes 7 minutes ago

    We here at @beltwaytimes would like to thank @MSNBC, and @maddow for sewing up #Trump2020. Ahead of schedule, under budget, and over taxed.

  141. Larry Ledwick says:

    He also paid more in taxes than Comcast

    The Beltway Times Retweeted
    Jeremy Nolt‏ @RealJeremyNolt 18 minutes ago

    Rachel Maddow just proved that Hillary lied to the American people when she said Trump didn’t pay his taxes. #ThankYouMaddow #TrumpTaxReturn

  142. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Stefan Molyneux‏Verified account @StefanMolyneux 6 minutes ago

    BREAKING: Rachel Maddow has Trump’s 1995 tax return leaked in October by the New York Times.

    SalenaZito Retweeted
    Michael McDonald‏ @meadabawdy 16 minutes ago

    @GaltsGirl @SalenaZito Real gnus:

  143. Another Ian says:


    A comment at

    “What Maddow and the fine folks over at MSNBC actually managed to do was get part of a copy of Trump’s 2005 tax return. Which was already 12 years old. And which the White House had already released.

    And which the Wall Street Journal had already reported on – a year ago.”

    So “Everythings up to date in Kansas City” and a few other places by the look of it

  144. Larry Ledwick says:

    Article in Politico about the palace intrigue atmosphere in the Trump administration due to recent events and a perception that embedded Obama supporters are out to get the Trump administration.

    It has created a “Moscow Rules” environment ( ) for the incoming administration where they are spending a lot of energy trying to figure out who they can trust, and being very leak conscious which of course tends to strangle internal communication.

  145. philjourdan says:

    @M Simon says:
    14 March 2017 at 3:23 pm

    Thanks for the explanation. I agree.

  146. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting suit by Judicial Watch, it will be fun to see if they find any shoes behind the curtain when this finally all gets sorted out.

  147. Larry Ledwick says:

    Embarrassing numbers for Bernie Sanders:

  148. M Simon says:

    Proof – Monsanto is poisoning America. Evidently the herbicide alone doesn’t do it. It is the herbicide plus the not so “inert” ingredients.

  149. Another Ian says:

    “Climate-Dollar bragging is over: funding goes underground to avoid “climate-axe”.

  150. Another Ian says:

    “Is There Nothing That Obama Can’t Do?”

    And comments

  151. Another Ian says:


    “Apropos of nothing… “former Obama spokesman @Robt_Gibbs is head of communications for McDonald’s.” “

  152. beththeserf says:

    Sorry, computah says ‘no.’

  153. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well this is interesting when the left is throwing around the charge that Trump et al are Nazis.

  154. E.M.Smith says:

    The American Progressive Movement was in love with all things Fascist and embraced the Nazi movement in the early years. Mussolini was invited over and widely celebrated in Hollywood (all the right parties, don’t you know…) and he even had a Cameo in a movie. Note he has a “Filmography” here:

    That includes “Chasing Through Europe” in 1929 where he is one of the Visits they make, in 1927 he is listed as the “Star” of “Duce” , but I think it might be the 1936 “100 Days Of Napoleon” that was filmed when he was brought over to Hollywood for a party… (though it has an “original title” in Italian) or maybe the “Chasing…” one where he has a real credit. There is also a 1923 “Eternal City” as well. Then a bunch of “Documentaries” which more more what you get for non-celebrated politicians…

    From Chasing:

    Rest of cast listed alphabetically:
    Papa Joffre Papa Joffre … Himself
    Benito Mussolini Benito Mussolini … Himself

    So Hollywood just loved all things National Socialist … right up until too many of their friends and relatives started getting killed… Then there was a HUGE script re-write as the USA got into the war, and a big “clean up of history” after the war; when USA “Progressives” (having become closely associated with “Socialists” and the “National Socialists”) decided to corrupt the meaning of Liberal and hide under it as cover (thus leading to “Liberal” now being a pejorative in much of the USA, but not in Australia / Europe).

    Exactly when did the bloom come off the rose? Probably varied over the years with different factions of Hollywood. Certainly by the 1940s… Would make an interesting story for someone to write up.

  155. E.M.Smith says:

    Looks like about 1935 per here:

    America’s Changing View of Mussolini and Italian Fascism

    By Mark Weber

    America’s image today of Benito Mussolini and his Italian Fascist regime is, to a considerable extent, a product of Second World War propaganda. The wartime image of the Duce (leader) as a clownish bully remains largely intact to this day. But this was not always so. During the 1920s and early 1930s, Mussolini and Fascist Italy were generally well regarded in the United States.

    John P. Diggins, professor of history at the University of California, Irvine, notes in his 1972 study, Mussolini and Fascism: The View from America (p.59): “Whatever Mussolini’s reputation is today, from the time of the [Fascist] March on Rome [1922] to the beginning of the Ethiopian War [1935], he was an esteemed figure. Americans in particular saw in Mussolini certain enduring qualities which enabled him to qualify as a `great man’ not only of his time but of the ages.”

    Mussolini’s conception of power and authority, the New York Times wrote in November 1923, “has many points in common with that of the men who inspired our own constitution – John Adams, Hamilton and Washington.”

    Gee… Maybe Serioso is right about the New York times… ;sarc/

    One of the most widely read magazines of the period, The Saturday Evening Post (with almost three million subscribers in 1930) published numerous articles praising Mussolini and his regime.

    America’s ambassador to Italy, Richard Washburn Child, was so taken with the Duce that he initiated and played a major role in producing Mussolini’s Autobiography, which was published in 1928 by Charles Scribner’s Sons. It appeared that same year in serial form in The Saturday Evening Post.

    In his foreword to the work, the envoy praised Mussolini as “both wise and humane,” as an administrator of “superstatesmanship,” and as a political leader of “permanent greatness.” In Fascist Italy, wrote Child, “unexpected joy is found in the leadership of a Mussolini … It is absurd to say that Italy groans under discipline. Italy chortles with it! It is victory!”

    Mussolini, the ambassador explained, “… has not only been able to secure and hold an almost universal following; he has built a new state upon a new concept of a state. He has not only been able to change the lives of human beings, but he has changed their minds, their hearts, their spirits. He has not merely ruled a house; he has built a new house.”

    President Franklin Roosevelt expressed admiration for the Italian leader, and sent him cordial letters. In June 1933, Roosevelt praised Mussolini in a letter to an American envoy: “… I am much interested and deeply impressed by what he has accomplished and by his evidenced honest purpose of restoring Italy and seeking to prevent general European trouble.” In another letter a few weeks later, the President wrote: “I don’t mind telling you in confidence that I am keeping in fairly close touch with the admirable Italian gentleman.”


    Birds Of A Feather as fellow Progressives?…

    A 1934 hit tune by Cole Porter included the line “You’re the tops – you’re Muss-o-li-ni.” Reflecting the changing attitude, a year later this line had been deleted.

    Re-writing history one song at a time?…

    As Mussolini aligned his nation ever more closely with National Socialist Germany, the image in the American media of Italy and its leader deteriorated markedly. In May 1939 Mussolini and Hitler concluded the Italian-German “Pact of Steel” alliance, and in June 1940 the Duce declared war on a France that was already nearly defeated by Germany. Setting the tone for a widespread American view, President Franklin Roosevelt condemned Mussolini’s “stab in the back.”

    Or maybe it was between 1935 and 1939 that the final turn happened.

    I’ve done a casual search to try and figure out when the party / filming happened, but that bit of history has been largely erased – rewritten – buried and is hard to find. I once had a great article about it, with photos of the set, but that link was not saved and I can’t find it again. Oh Well.

  156. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting reddit thread, comments are a microcosm of the shift in politics this year and how the Democrats and media have probably set themselves back 30 years or more. They have literally created an entire generation of young people determined to break them.

  157. M Simon says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    19 March 2017 at 12:40 am

    A lot of “democrats” are livid that Obama didn’t keep his implied promise about cannabis.

    I wrote about that during the election season.

    You will note that Trump seems to be doing his best to hold to his promises. Lest the same sort of dissatisfaction derail him.

    I think the era of “20 years of no action to keep the issue alive” may be ending.

  158. Another Ian says:

    They Were Just Putin You On
    By Kate on March 20, 2017 5:17 AM | 17 Comments

    They don’t need no stinking evidence…

    Key Democratic officials are clearly worried about the expectations that have been purposely stoked and are now trying to tamp them down. Many of them have tried to signal that the beliefs the base has been led to adopt have no basis in reason or evidence. […]

    But on Wednesday night, Morell appeared at an intelligence community forum to “cast doubt” on “allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.” ”

    More at

  159. E.M.Smith says:

    The thing that fascinates me is just the depth and breadth of the lying being pushed, and now uncovered, yet the core of the Democratic Party seem oblivious or uncaring. Just amazing.

    I am supposed to be vilified if, in the workplace, I say “like what you’ve done with your hair.” or worse, notice a new outfit; yet Donna Brazil can violate all standards of journalism and lie on national TV and that’s OK; while thugs beat up plain old folks for wanting to attend a lecture on campus and the campus Administration approves.

    Frankly, I’ve been struggling to figure out what to say about it; it is so basically wrong and crazy.

  160. Larry Ledwick says:

    I have had the same feeling EM. it is just beyond my comprehension that folks can be so obtuse and willfully ignorant of opposing views and the fact that every story has 2 or more sides. It takes work to consistently misconstrue every single story or comment and read into it agendas that simply do not but cannot exist.

    On that same note, we have this link from Mcclatchy. I find it funny that they have jumped to the conclusion that all the efforts to get out the message for Trump by actively linking news stories that supported Trump had to be a malicious campaign. It is like a lot of his supporters did not even exist or did not make a conscious effort to push stories that countered the lies of the mainstream media.
    His supporters refused to be shouted down, and adopted Trump’s own strategy of sucking the air out of the media message of the day by swamping it with other messages. They were simply incapable of maintaining a coherent drumbeat of disinformation as a result.

    This was a grass roots campaign of average computer users getting sick and tired of media manipulation by CNN, MSNBC, Snopes etc. to hide or misdirect peoples attention from important topics. As a result a lot of us (myself included) made a point of posting counter responses to stories that were clearly engineered by the major media to twist the narrative and provide a smoke screen of nonsense claims and shield Clinton from dealing with legitimate questions about her health and the corrupt cohort of supporters she surrounds herself with.

    In he past I would have just shook my head and went on, but this year when I saw such obvious misdirection I made a point of making counter point arguments and posting links.

    Even if they were ridiculed or ignored, the perception that everyone agreed with the misdirection had to be destroyed. That sort of obfuscation can only succeed if the other side stays silent.

    So this time we refused to be silent or get shouted down and confronted the media machine and beat it at its own game.

  161. Larry Ledwick says:

    This article raises an interesting question:

    “Many Democrats have reached the classic stage of deranged conspiracists where evidence that disproves the theory is viewed as further proof of its existence, and those pointing to it are instantly deemed suspect.”

    The point is that the Democrats and the media have so stoked this story that their base believes it. And the Democrats on this committee and the Democrats in the Senate, the Democrats everywhere, are literally scared to death of the day when it will be officially announced that there was no collusion, when this Comey investigation ends and they can’t prove any collusion between Trump and the Russians.

    What is the end stage of this sort of insane expectation setting and then let down?
    Do the Democratic power players turn on each other and eat their own to try to protect their own reputation?


    Do the rank and file folks who bought into that story line go ballistic like when a cop is acquitted of a shooting and try to tear the country apart?

    If the latter is the case the Dems have a tiger by the tail and don’t know how to let go. In the mean time they are in a full court press effort to find something to hang their charges on.

    It will be very interesting to watch this historic scene develop. No telling what black swan events are lurking in the wings which might push it in an unexpected direction.

  162. M Simon says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    21 March 2017 at 3:17 am

    I keep reminding Democrats about the effect of what they are currently doing had on the electorate of 1972. They don’t care to listen.

    Brown Shirt tactics don’t work well in America.

  163. M Simon says:

    Re: the health care bill.

    It is interesting that a gang of libert6arian Republicans is actually doing the will of the Republican electorate. Rand Paul. Justin Amash. etc.

    Rand Paul is running for President. If he wins he will do better than Trump because he has allies in Congress.

  164. M Simon says:

    No Quarter has been taken off line.

    In my opinion it came after he stated that British GCHQ spies on American citizens. Politico has more on that story.

    So if he is gone does that mean what he said was true?

  165. M Simon says:

    The whole problem for the Democrats is not who stole the e-mails.

    The problem is the e-mails told the truth.

  166. A C Osborn says:

    Note the almost total lack of coverage of any of the emails info in the MSM.

  167. E.M.Smith says:

    @A.C. Osborn:

    Yup. What I call “Negative Space Analysis” – what ought to be, but isn’t. It can speak volumes if you listen carefully… It shouts “Dig HERE!!!”.


    “That which power suppresses is that which told an unpleasant truth. -E.M.Smith”

    Not always, but very often. What enrages the powerful is often what they fear most, and that is far too often a truth they wanted buried. Thus the use by the more clueful of the “non-denial denial” or the artful deflection. The attempt at making it a negative space. In which case I refer you to the above comment… while the least clueful just bury the messenger with the message…

    Between digging furiously into anything oppressed, and searching the negative spaces, you can pretty much paint a picture of what is being fought and hidden, without ever seeing a bit of it….

    (Then you need to prove up your image so as to avoid petty fantasies…)

  168. cdquarles says:

    Indubitably, EM, indubitably. What we are seeing here is almost a carbon copy of the “ClimateGate” leak. Leak, I say, boy, leak, It wasn’t a hack, er, crack. If you connect a server to the internet and it is wide open, why would you think the stuff there won’t leak? /rhetorical. Just as the YSM didn’t discuss the contents of the ClimateGate stuff, they didn’t discuss the contents of the Podesta and others, leaks. Instead, they just hollered: “HACK, HACK, HACK!!!!!” as a means of distracting people from the real news.

    Also, in my opinion, the “Russians are Coming!!!!!” stuff is simply hilarious, except that it is a disinformation/psyops campaign. Right now Russia isn’t our enemy. Why do the denizens of Washington DC, today, push this line? /rhetorical. Joe McCarthy was correct and Russian records showed it. That’s why the Left never forgave Nixon, a fellow who mostly agreed with them.

  169. Larry Ledwick says:

    And now we see the start of a slow walk back that Maaaybeee Trump was actually monitored prior to the election, but golly gee we were not really monitoring “him” he just sort of happened to be there. (fade to clip of vaudeville actor with straw hat and cane doing the old soft shoe and circus music in the background)

  170. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter
    Fox News Alert‏Verified account @foxnewsalert

    SURVEILLANCE CONFIRMED: Rep reveals ‘incidental collection’ of Trump team communications

  171. Larry Ledwick says:

    Politico carrying the same item:

    Now the important question is did Nunes chairman of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, get a green light to let this shoe drop because it was clear the hatchet job on Trump was going to fail or because the investigation (Gowdy) was asking questions no one wanted to answer?

    Nunes is a Republican but I don’t know if he was in the “Never Trump” tribe.

  172. Larry Ledwick says:

    His position just 3 days ago was 180 degrees out, so somebody clued him in to something he either did not know or did not want to divulge.

  173. Larry Ledwick says:

    Reading between the lines it seems to me that they decided the FBI was stonewalling the Congressional investigation on this. I guess we will know if the administration expresses full confidence in him and the FBI Director suddenly decides he wants to spend more time with his family.

  174. E.M.Smith says:

    Reading those last links, all I can say is:

    Never have so many, tried so hard, to make something out of nothing.

  175. Another Ian says:

    “It’s Not Wiretapping When The Democrats Do It”

  176. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter
    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 3 minutes ago
    So the IC “incidentally” spied on Trump and “incidentally” disseminated it around DC and “incidentally” said he lied when he caught them.

  177. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting article in the Observer, how ever he is missing one blatantly obvious alternate explanation. Russia may have been sending a signal to the globalists that it would do what ever it had to do to break their game. If Europe, and the US and other major countries ever coverge on global government with Russia an outlier it is clear Russia would see that as an existential threat. Therefore blatantly intervene to stop Hillary and her globalist agenda and do it so openly that hopefully the self absorbed globalists would notice.

    As I see it, Putin was not so much “helping Trump” as he was making a “do what ever is necessary, at all cost” effort to stop Hillary and another 4-8 years of Obama’s drift toward global governance.

  178. Glenn999 says:

    will obama, jarrett, rice, rhodes be held accountable?
    Klayman letter:

    Click to access 170321-Final%20Whistleblower%20Letter.pdf

  179. A C Osborn says:

    That Klayman letter looks to be absolute dynamite, but how does he get it out to the public when Congress and the MSM are ignoring it?
    Has he sent it to Trump himself?

  180. E.M.Smith says:

    Per Klayman:

    47 hard drives and 600 million pages of CIA / NSA stuff? That’s gonna leave a mark… Strange that it isn’t getting much air play on the news…

    One presumes someone skilled enough in the art to get a contract at both the NSA and CIA and to smuggle out 47 hard disks worth of stuff, is also skilled enough to have created copies in deep hiding and set up a ‘dead man switch’ on their release. (Personally, were I in that circumstance, I’d have one set depot’ed with the Lawyer, one in a safe deposit box in another name in another country, key held by someone only connected with my pseudonym there, or only with a ‘friend of a friend’, one set with a ‘trusted but slightly remote’ family member – like a cousin or 2nd Niece, and maybe one set in “Mayonnaise Jars” under a neighbors porch ;-)

    Perhaps deliver an encrypted set to Wikileaks with the key on a “send if not stopped” server where I have to check in every year to block it somewhere in the cloud.

    No idea the veracity of the claims, but it sure is looking to me like the morality paradox is starting to bite the Agencies.

    “Morality Paradox” is what I term the dilemma that kept me from turning in my C.I.A. application. They were recruiting at my University and were one of the few places non-boring who wanted to hire Economists. I had a ‘thing’ for languages, have adventure seeking behaviour, and was an Economist by training. Also jumped out of airplanes and knew explosives chemistry, among other things… So I took their application and filled it out.

    Then spent 2 days just looking at it. All about ONE question:

    “Have you ever used Marijuana” ….

    OK, do they want me to answer truthfully, and demonstrate my morality and adherence to the oath signed at the bottom? Or does that flag me as naive and inflexible of moral response when they want skills at being, um, “flexible”?

    I realized I would spend the rest of my life dealing with such questions and with that “morality paradox” where they would demand absolute morality to THEM and zero morality to The Other; and sorting out when to be moral and when not would be a constant “issue”. I also realized that I’m not perfect, and at some point I would “get it wrong”; depending one ‘with whom’ that could be a Very Bad Thing. So I did not turn in my application.

    (Later I found out they would only accept accurate disclosure on the applications, figuring they wanted moral up front and could teach you to lie to The Other later – or so I was told – and that the Econ folks mostly just sat at dull desks in back rooms in Virginia analyzing various countries, their economies, and how to destabilize them if desired. I figure I’d likely have spent a decade studying somewhere like Ghana since I’d done a paper on it in school. Hey, required to analyze a country so I chose the smallest one with the least economy to analyze ;-) Got a good grade too, partly, I think, as it was not one of the countries most people picked ;-) I think I’d have been less than happy spending ever day reading the news from Ghana and pondering economic destruction…)

    So I never became a CIA agent. (Nor after 9-11 when I sent my resume to both them and NSA – seems they were flooded with resumes then…) Oh Well. Their loss.

    So they have this “Morality Dilemma”. They hire moral people, then task them to do immoral things. At some point, for some of those moral people, doing those immoral things will become intolerable. Mostly, I suspect, when they are applied “To Us” instead of to “The Other”. At that point, their selection for moral actors will start to bite them; as it is presently doing. It is easier to demonize The Other than The Family and Self. At some point the mask falls off and the schizo division falls and the person “flips” to a whistleblower.

    That, IMHO, is the Morality Dilemma faced by The Agencies.

    FWIW, one of my favorite movies is Grosse Pointe Blank. The protagonist is a professional government assassin and in one scene, when explaining why, says that during his military psych screening he “showed a certain ‘moral flexibility’…” That scene always stuck with me as one that properly fingered what would be needed to be particularly good at the Black Arts…

    FWIW, there are times I have a little regret about not sending in my CIA application. I think I likely could have worked my way out of the desk job and into something more interesting. Not the full on Bond thing, but maybe being a “Tourist with clue” visiting places and people and understanding places. Hanging out at a local cafe (perhaps near an embassy) and getting a sense of the people and their masters. Providing that street understanding you can’t get via Google Earth or satellites. (Lord knows our appointed Ambassadors can’t provide it, being political shills, and most of our citizens can’t see the other guy’s culture or point of view worth beans).

    Oh Well. Most “Agency” folks don’t get to do that kind of stuff and are either back room boys or are ex-military in the field. The Israelis know how to field accidental tourists, folks with a plausible back story who just ‘fit in’ places and report home. They had one assassination squad in a hotel (caught on the elevator camera) who just looked like a couple of old retired tourists. Nobody expects Ma and Pa Kettle to be Mossad.

    Oh Well. I made my choice on the Morality Dilemma and it was likely for the best. Answering yes would likely have gotten me dumped as unreliable (given the era) and answering no would likely have gotten me dumped as lying (despite them needing that skill). The only reality of merit is that they ought not to have bothered with that particular question as it is irrelevant to the job. (Once hired, you could sort those who “have” into undercovers for drug related things and the “nots” into work where drugs are not likely to be encountered.) Instead, they seem to have selected for lots of Morality and little “A Certain Moral Flexibility” and the result is that today those inside are coping with their own Morality Dilemma and finding morality in leaking…

  181. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter: (Hmm which thread to put this in)

    Molly McKew‏Verified account @MollyMcKew

    Kremlin threatens to leak everything on Obama admin if leaks continue from DC. The rabbit hole gets deeper and deeper

    Looks like Russia is ready to push back against the Russia did it narrative.
    I think we file this under “shot across the bow”

  182. Larry Ledwick says:

    Related on the issue of the media constantly claiming Trump’s support is collapsing. It is only collapsing if you look at urban polls that under sample rural voters, and over sample Democratic voters. Just like the election polls they are dumb founded because they actually are buying their own propaganda.

  183. Larry Ledwick says:

    On the Antifa protest front we have this on twitter:

    Mike Cernovich
    🇺🇸 Retweeted
    Gavin McInnes‏Verified account @Gavin_McInnes 2 hours ago

    Gavin McInnes Retweeted
    ⚡️ Right Scoop

    You can tell when someone is being punched for the first time in their lives. It’s usually someone who says “punch them in the face” a lot.

    Right Scoop
    ⚡️‏ @trscoop

    Brawl breaks out between Trump and anti-Trump protesters in Huntington Beach, CA
    I think the pot is beginning to simmer

    Memo to AntiFa — don’t start a fight you can’t win.

  184. Larry Ledwick says:

    Reuters coverage of the Bolsa Chica State Beach confrontation.

    (by the way EM that translates to Girl Bag according to google translate, not sure what to make of that??) There are so many inappropriate jokes just sitting there waiting to be made – (perhaps in the dialect it has a different meaning that its literal translation)

  185. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter — referring to an MSNBC Today show segment

    Mike Cernovich
    🇺🇸 Retweeted
    Tennessee‏ @TEN_GOP 3 hours ago

    This is big! Hillary Clinton covered up child trafficking investigation at the State Department.

    Unfortunately I can’t find the original feature and can’t link to the twitter video snip.
    For those that have twitter access:

  186. Paul Hanlon says:

    Kind of a weird week this week. When PDT first put out his tweet about Obama, I recoiled at it. Even if it was true, you shouldn’t just do that sort of thing (to my mind). But he’s been vindicated, and there can’t really be a doubt that he knew when he tweeted. This was not speculation on his part.

    He spelled it out to an incredulous Tucker Carlson just prior to his Louisville? rally, that towards the end of the week there would be something and then probably something else the week after that. He wasn’t to know that the hearing would be postponed until next week, and yet if the “smoking gun” comes out about the definitive proof of Obama administration spying, he will have been absolutely on target. I mean, I don’t care how much three dimensional chess he plays, he’s not psychic.

    I’m wondering if the documents showing Obama collusion to delegitimise Trump, and the Wikileaks CIA revelations aren’t one and the same documents, just from different ends. Wikileaks coming from the long term goal of bringing down the CIA altogether (they owe no allegiance to PDT), and the House Intelligence docs coming from the short term expedient of vindicating PDT, plus getting to the bottom of the “Russian” farrago.

    With three of the main people who have been “unmasked” asking to be allowed to testify before the committee, it’s likely that the result will be NO evidence of collusion, NO evidence of Russia influencing the elections, other than through ordinary social discourse, but prima facie proof that Obama/Clinton plotted to delegitimise not just his candidacy, but his transition and presidency as well.

    And the thing is, none of this would have happened if he didn’t tweet what he did. If embarrassing information had turned up otherwise, the whole thing would have been buried, like the Michigan vote count, but PDT raising the stakes the way he did, made that impossible. That’s beyond the Prince, or the Art of War, into a whole new realm altogether. Particularly when you see what he and his team had to endure in the interim.

    But then there was the Obamacare replacement, in which he seemed to have invested a fair amount of political capital, and yet he seemed somewhat relieved, in a sense, when it didn’t go through. Was that the underlying intention all along? Give himself the moral high ground to be able to say he tried it the conventional way, with the added bonus that if it went through, he could post extra savings against the Budget bill.

    But if it didn’t, he could get on with what he really wanted to do, tax reform. And be bolder about it as well. Has there ever been a time when a dominant party failed to pass two pieces of legislation, one after the other? Not only that, he has set a marker, and stuck to it, that he is only willing to go so far. He’s willing to lose a battle to win the overall war. It wouldn’t surprise me if he goes for all of the funding for the wall in this first budget.

    And anyway, nothing about phase 1 not getting passed, stops him from going on to phase 2, the gutting of all the regulations that add to the cost of Healthcare. He can do it under the aegis of trying to protect the American people from the worst of the collapse of Obamacare. He can bring out Executive Orders to put an overall shape to what he wants to do with healthcare and embarrass the GOP into adopting it legislatively. Or face the wrath of the electorate.

    The only thing I’d be worried about is the extra delay that being diverted by Repeal and Replace has introduced. Getting companies to repatriate their funds back to America, the taxes from which alone would more than seed his infrastructure bill, with the rest of the money providing the actual capital to fund it overall, would be a major win for his overall strategy. That gets moderately and semi-skilled people into work and off entitlements. It creates higher skilled jobs into which all the newly employable ex-bureaucrats can work at. And now you’re into virtuous circle territory.

  187. E.M.Smith says:

    So hear I was, all settled down with my old antenna books ( including an ARRL handbook) thinking I’d take a shot at a unified antenna understanding…

    and along comes all this juicy stuff…

    Sometimes I think I’ll never get anything done. Sigh.

    OK, so the summary is that the Trump Supporters have “adapted” (yes, I’ve been watching Star Trek Voyager and ‘adapting shield harmonics’…) and now are prepared to defend themselves. Not really a surprise. I’d now show up a rally having practiced a kata or two before hand and with a ‘sturdy’ sign pole or my “old guy cane”… or mayb an umbrella… depending on weather…

    Then the dirt on the Clintons is actually getting dug up a little.

    And Russia decides to stir the pot with a “Hey, you want to talk dirt? We can talk dirt…” slap on the face of the Dims… Shades of “more flexibility after the election”…

    So do my refresh on antenna theory, or down the political rabbit hole… I think I’ll turn on the news while I read some more about antennas and then assess again in a couple of hours.

    I think I also need to lay in a supply of “salty snacks” and “beverages”… ;-)

  188. E.M.Smith says:


    It’s the weekend, so none of the USA stations has news since no news happens on the weekend. Reruns, stories canned days ago, happy talk, infomercials.

    The international channels (A.J., RT, Sky, France24) all focused on the London attack (since nothing important is happening in the USA, after all, it’s the weekend here…so no news…)

    I guess maybe it will show up on Monday as “yesterday’s news”…

    Heck, even Newsmax has a canned show running.

  189. E.M.Smith says:


    Boca chica means beach (or ‘little mouth’ semi-literally) and chica can mean little (for a feminine noun) so I’d figure the ‘bag’ was really ‘sack’ like in cul-de-sac and it meant ‘little indentation’ or small bay.

  190. E.M.Smith says:

    Oddly, many of the videos showing the anti-Trump folks fighting / attacking MAGA folks would not play on the Mac… Didn’t say “not found”, just would not play. I’ll try later on another machine…

    It was clear from the one that DID play that the Maga folks came with “the right attitude”. They now know to expect pepper spray and attacks, and are prepared to defend / counter attack as needed.

    Was especially fond of the “4 arrests, 3 for illegal use of pepper spray”. Looks like those Police knew to do their job…

    And yes, I finished reading my 4 antenna books… (just a quick skim / refresher)

  191. E.M.Smith says:

    I also note in passing: In some of those pictures and videos, it looks like the usual flimsy flat 1 inch by 3/16 inch flag sticks have been replaced by more sturdy 1 inch dowels…

    Wonder which side has more “be prepared” Scouts and Military & Police membership? I noticed one guy with what looked like a new PFC haircut and then there was that ‘Blue Lives Matter” sign… Wonder how many cops would arrest someone for “crowning an attacker” with their Blue L.M. sign?…

    I suspect a fair number of folks have “self appointed” to be the front line… I know I’d be up near the front. I’m big and with some martial arts training, even if a long time ago, and I don’t intimidate worth a damn… Besides “60 something attacked by punk in all black” makes a good headline ;-)

  192. E.M.Smith says:

    @Paul H.:

    I suspect The Donald was letting Ryan run with this one to test him, and to get brownie points for playing with The Party Leadership; now he can “remind” them anytime they say it must be their way, not his…

    Were I Trump, I’d do that on something medium to big, so they burn their creds not mine; then I’d bank it. He chose a “Knight Fork” to do it. (Win-win) Either it passed, and the check box gets ticked, or it fails and he banks a cudgel for future use inside the party AND hangs Obamacare directly on the Dimocrats… His cost? A few folks trying to paint it as some kind of horrible setback and setting themselves up for further underestimation of him.

    IMHO, he picked the right one to let the Leadership fall on it’s own sword over. Let them and the Dems fight that tar baby while he keeps on draining the swamp and doing MAGA…

  193. jim2 says:

    The Clinton/child trafficking video is from 2013, apparently.

  194. jim2 says:

    Sorry, didn’t mean to publish the vid again. The youtube page has this:

    Published on Mar 25, 2017
    Flashback to June 11th, 2013 when NBC was reporting real news… Hillary Clinton was never a progressive liberal, she was never a feminist, she never cared about anyone but herself.

    If you copy the video URL and paste into browser, it will take you to the page instead.

  195. M Simon says:

    E.M.Smith says:
    25 March 2017 at 5:36 pm

    If you need people with ambiguous morality look for people who were victims of child abuse.

    In fact if we really cared about making a significant dent in criminality in general we wold do as much as we could to eliminate child abuse.

    When I was hanging with a MC gang I never met one gang member (of those who would talk about it) who wasn’t a victim of child abuse.

  196. Larry Ledwick says:

    IMHO, he picked the right one to let the Leadership fall on it’s own sword over. Let them and the Dems fight that tar baby while he keeps on draining the swamp and doing MAGA…

    Every time I hear the major media prattling on about how Trump made a terrible mistake and is withdrawing in panic over the ACA replacement I think of the clip in the Movie Top Gun where they are critiquing one of the dog fight exercises and Jester says:

    (direct parapharase I can’t find the clip)
    Don’t push a bad position, better to break off and then re-engage with better position.

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  198. M Simon says:

    Larry Ledwick

    “Better to retire and save your aircraft than push a bad position.”

  199. M Simon says:


    “Better to retire and save your aircraft than push a bad position.”

  200. Larry Ledwick says:

    Another NSA whistle blower talks about possible NSA surveillance on executive, legislative and judicial branches. Original source is The Blaze so take with the appropriate grains of salt.

  201. E.M.Smith says:

    There are at least 3 Agencies with known attempt to gather EVERYTHING over at least 25 years; and there are still people who doubt EVERYONE is under surveillance to some degree?

    Oh, the naivety…

    To paraphrase an old radio reporter….

    (For what it’s worth, I figure I’m up to 4 files in Agencies just based on known interactions with folks… but possibly more, and not counting the dragnets for Total Information Awareness; and I’m not even important.)

  202. cdquarles says:

    I know that I’m getting old. I haven’t totally lost my mind. Yeah, that song’s from the 1980s. The video was made later.

  203. Larry Ledwick says:

    Dear congress (and political commentators in the media) Please watch this video (several times)!
    With a little effort you can understand how our government is organized and why it is organized the way it is.

  204. Larry Ledwick says:

    Podesta may have failed to disclose Russian connected stocks in his disclosure forms.
    It will be interesting to see how the Trump administration plays this.

  205. Larry Ledwick says:

    Oh my! I can’t say what I want to say but – – – –

  206. E.M.Smith says:


    Back in the ’70s I was crew on a hot air balloon. There was a Kenedy-Wanna-Be California senator? named John Tunney? who was touring (likely for photo ops, and with various security and suckup attendants). He got in the balloon and while the prep for lift off was proceeding demonstrated his profound grasp of physics by seriously asking:

    “So what holds it up? Is it the hot air?”

    Here’s your sign…

    No, Mr. Tunney, it’s the invisible jet engine and pixie dust…

    Never met such a profoundly idiotic and clueless person with such positional authority (at least until Pelosi started getting a lot of air time… but I’ve never actually met her). In my (maybe) 3 or 4 minutes of contact time I resolved to stay as far as possible away from him and his ilk for the rest of my life… The Stupid just oozed from every pore and was flung like poo every time his mouth opened. His “security’ staff looked pained to be in his presence and I’d guess they had to rotate often… They did manage to avoid eye rolls, but only by having a frozen expression and constantly looking away whenever he began to speak… (as we were in a modestly remote empty field, it wasn’t like they were scanning the crowd – and the slight ‘wince’ on some phrases was well hidden as long as they were looking away…)

    My impression of most politicians since has confirmed that a large fraction of them have zero clue how anything actually works (having been steered into people focused majors and away from those things that you hire people to do….) and that most of them, at most, could get through private tutoring enough to attend daddy funded law school where a small ‘endowment’ would assure graduation… And all that so taxed their ability that they had zero time for actual world experiences, and being shielded by rich parents into limited gated enclaves further stunted their growth.

    You can easily spot the few with real world experiences (like the medical doctors – say Rand Paul) as they actually make sense when they talk…

    Chelsea impresses me as being of the class that has never actually done anything. Even the book she is pushing had a guest writer co-author with actual experience in the field. I do wonder why it wasn’t just flat out ghost written, but likely they figured that would be so obviously impossible that they paid extra to get her some borrowed credibility…

    Compare to Ivanka. Dad had her driving bulldozers and working construction sites. I’d wager she can do her own photoshop work too and likely sewed her first self designed clothes then made the first ads… In a pinch, I’d rather have her on my team than Chelsea any day…

  207. Another Ian says:

    “If you were concerned that the current pandemic of derangement spreading around the nation in response to the election of Donald Trump was fading into the background, fear not… ”

    Link at

  208. M Simon says:

    “As Tanzanian President Julius Nyerere quipped in the 1960s, when he was accused by the US of running a one-party state, ‘The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them’.”

  209. philjourdan says:

    My impression of most politicians since has confirmed that a large fraction of them have zero clue how anything actually works

    Politicians are the HS cheer leaders of life. They have one asset – they are glib. They know it and therefore feel no need to “work” to get what they want.

    The difference between Chelsea and Ivanka is the latter is not a politician. The former has never been anything but.

  210. Larry Ledwick says:

    A bit more detail on the intelligence info provided to Nunez regarding pre-election monitoring of the Trump organization. As noted other locations these were incidental collections related to foreign persons trying to establish connections to Trump prior to the election. The issue was that this info was widely distributed in the Obama administration and the identities of the Trump contacts were poorly or not masked so that it was easy to figure out who was being contacted.

    Secondarily to that it appears that these bits of information were used to drive a campaign of leaks and innuendo implying improper contacts for political gain by the Obama and Clinton insiders.

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