Somewhere along the line I got to this link about the flu virus maybe killing cancer and a guy modifying it for greater effect.
The flu virus might kill cancer, doctors say
By Andrea Downey, The Sun
July 11, 2017 | 12:05pm
Sidebar on Search and Hijack by Twitter / Google
Originally this article was to be only about that story. I’d found it when using the Macbook, so needed to pull up the same article on my posting machine. Usually just the name of the source site and a few words from the title does the trick. So “nypost.com flu virus cancer” as a search ought to get it “up top”. This failed. Why is an interesting question. BOTH Google and Twitter destination links popped up near the top. The Twitter one seeming to do a masquerade of sorts to look like a NY Post direct link.
(I’ve trimmed the junk ‘identifiers’ about AT&T network source and such from the search link)
This gave a list of things (I’ve inserted spaces in URLs to break wordpress auto activating them):
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[Search domain nypost .com] nypost.com/2017/07/11/the-flu-virus-might-kill-cance…
FDA fast-tracks treatment that uses polio virus to fight …
While the altered polio virus initiates the fight against the cancer cells, … Cold and Flu; Digestive Health; Nutrition; Pregnancy; Site Index Sections …
[Search domain www .foxnews.com] foxnews.com/health/2016/05/13/fda-gives-approval-to-u…
The flu virus might kill cancer, doctors say – New York Post
The common flu virus could be used to fight cancer, … web: nypost.com. facebook: nypost. twitter: nypost. google: +nypost. New York Post Hot Topics #1 Otto Warmbier
[Search domain 50wire.com] 50wire.com/id/17356716125
Flu tactics: New study reveals how influenza A attacks …
A study identifying the little-studied ways of how flu viruses hijack human … Full Story | Nypost.com on … Genetic tests help identify cancer patients …
[Search domain www. thenewscommenter.com] https: //www.thenewscommenter.com/news/flu-tactics-new-study-reveals-how-in…
Cancer Biology – blogs.lt.vt.edu
http: //www.nypost.com/p/news/international/every_cancer_kills_tumor … The virus helps patients … and all of the patients suffered flu like symptoms …
[Search domain blogs.lt.vt.edu] https: //blogs.lt.vt.edu/kfash1/
One drug to rule them all! Scientists find treatment to kill …
Scientists find treatment to kill EVERY … http: //www.nypost.com/p/news/international/every_cancer_kills_tumor … Previous story Deadly New Bird Flu Virus in China …
[Search domain investmentwatchblog.com] investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-one-drug-to-rule-them-all-scient…
Scientists use modified HIV virus to cure cancer. Still no …
Scientists use modified HIV virus to cure cancer. Still no hover cars. … Scientists use modified HIV virus to cure cancer. Still no hover cars ( nytimes.com)
That first one LOOKS like it ought to take you straight to the NY Post, but it pops up a twitter instead…
That share= part seems to be what does it. Further down there’s a Google attempt to hijack me away from duckduckgo also.
Now “why” is an interesting question. I have ZERO desire to feed either Twitter or Google and they are both on my “avoid” list for their predatory behaviours and lack of respect for privacy. Yet it looks like “they have found a way” to try to force me through them. It looks like it might depend on how the NY Post has set up their pages, but I’m not sure. So are Google and Twitter doing hyjacks, or has the NY Post got a bad page layout?
In any case, for the NY Post, I had to go to their top page then do the search there. Be advised… Watch for ?share= and trim it…
Now back at the main story:
Virus vs Cancer
As the list of links the search turned up shows, a bunch of viruses are being exploited in attempts to kill off cancer. This particular story being about the Flu.
The common flu virus could be used to fight cancer, say scientists who believe it can “shatter” tumors from within.
Doctors are set to test the new treatment, using a lab-grown flu virus to attack liver cancer cells, while leaving healthy ones alone.
Dr. Tony Dhillon, an oncologist at the Royal Surrey County Hospital in Guildford, England, is leading the new trial.
He said it could be “potentially game changing” for patients who have been told their liver cancer is inoperable.
Currently patients with advanced liver cancer are treated with daily tablets, which only slow the growth of the cancer.
The virus, once inside the tumor’s cancerous cells, replicates, the experts explained.
They said: “Eventually the cells will become so full that they will burst, allowing the ‘flu-like’ infection to spread to adjacent cells.
Now it’s all well and good they they are working to tailor a virus to just attack the cancer cells, but I’m left wondering to what extent universal flu vaccination increases cancer deaths from eliminating this beneficial side effect?
I remember stories from many decades back (when flu was more frequent) of folks with cancer, getting the flu, then post recovery having their cancer “spontaneously cured”. Generally not attributed to anything but random chance. Still, many folks noticed the proximity in time.
FWIW, I got my first ever “flu shot” while working at Disney 2 years ago. Prior to that I just ignored it. Why? I’d already had The Flu enough times I’m immune to most of the varieties out there. I was in the cohort from about 1957? that had one of the last “killer flu” pandemics to hit California.
Asian Flu (1957–1958)
Main article: H2N2
The “Asian Flu” was a category 2 flu pandemic outbreak of avian influenza that originated in China in early 1956 lasting until 1958. It originated from mutation in wild ducks combining with a pre-existing human strain. The virus was first identified in Guizhou. It spread to Singapore in February 1957, reached Hong Kong by April, and US by June. Death toll in the US was approximately 69,800. The elderly were particularly vulnerable. Estimates of worldwide deaths vary widely depending on source, ranging from 1 million to 4 million.
So it was an H2N2 type, nice to know. I had a fever of about 105 F, at near 106 F my Dad gave me an ice bath and medicated for fever reduction. Shortly after that the fever broke and I recovered without incident. Yes, I still remember when the “ice in a cloth on the forehead and neck” was replaced with the cold plunge in the bath tub… both shivers and relief…
So now folks are trying to domesticate this beast and control the benefit vs cost ratio.
IMHO, has promise.
Reading the Wiki list, it looks like I’ve had H3N2 and H1N1 exposure as well. It’s been a couple of decades since any particular flu managed to cause me illness, so I think I’m likely pretty well conditioned at this point.
I’ve also pretty much decided not to bother with the flu vaccination anymore. I had one. It didn’t even cause a bump at the injection site. My body just laughed it off as less than a nothing. NO immune response seemed to happen. I also cruised though the following flu seasons without even the sniffles (much like prior one in 2009) It just doesn’t seem to matter any more if I have a vaccination or not, as I’m pretty much “ready to go” for lots of the antigen mixes.
But that raises an interesting question: Am I now less likely to benefit from any anti-cancer effect of a bout of the flu?
Will their proposed Flu based “treatment” fail on folks “like me” who already mount high anti-flu virus response and tend not to ‘catch flu’ anymore? Will it interact with the flu vaccine?
One hopes they manage to remove the more common antigen markers from the virus, but then given the propensity to recombination it has, might that lead to a “killer flu” without antigens if it remixed with, say, an H1N1 and lost those markers?
Curiouser and curiouser…
Well, now I find myself hoping I get a mild case of the flu in coming years. Doubt it will happen as It’s been about 30 years since the last one. (About 1983? I had a bad flu with fever… at least I think it was the flu… that was the last time despite no vaccinations) Maybe I’ll get some other virus that’s “going around” and it can clean out the broken cells ;-)
It would be interesting to compare death statistics for cancer vs flu in countries with vaccination vs not. Tradeoffs, it’s all about tradeoffs…