So late September (24th here) Star Trek Discovery comes out on “CBS All Access” in the USA, Netflix in the rest of the world (as explained to me by my Niece The Trekker). Before discussion, here’s the short trailer:
“First Look” trailer 2:10 (from a month or so ago)
Now there are two timelines in Trekdom TV & Movies. The original and the “post changing history” movie time line. These have names (who knew?). The original is “Prime” while post the Abrams movie is called “Kelvin”. I think. More than you want to know about Star Trek timelines here:
Fans of J.J. Abrams’ filmography know that the director loves to pay tribute to his grandfather Henry Kelvin by mentioning him in his movies. Last year’s Star Wars: The Force Awakens included “Kelvin ridge,” and Star Trek Into Darkness featured an image of the Kelvin Memorial Archive. In the 2009 Star Trek reboot, the Kelvin Easter egg came in the very beginning; the ship George Kirk commanded as he heroically saved lives was the U.S.S. Kelvin.
Since it was the Kelvin that encountered Nero and the Romulans, it played an integral part in the modern iteration of Star Trek, essentially launching the alternate timeline in which the new movies take place. Now, the name Kelvin has a far greater distinction than being just one of the Federation’s vehicles. It is the official title of this part of Star Trek history.
OK, so I guess it’s pretty well confirmed as Kelvin…
While Discovery is supposed to be in the prime timeline:
Star Trek: Discovery Officially Takes Place in the Prime Universe
7/23/16 7:52pmFiled to: STAR TREK
In a packed panel during San Diego Comic-Con, the name of the new Star Trek series—which, in the grand tradition of Star Trek, is also the name of the ship—was revealed. In a press conference after the panel, executive producers Bryan Fuller and Heather Kadin gave just a few more details about the show.
First off, Fuller answered the question of whether the Discovery, just revealed, was based on Ralph McQuarrie’s ‘70s designs for the Enterprise. Fuller said it was, but “to a point that we can’t legally comment on it until [our legal team] figures out some things.”
Kadin was asked about being a woman working behind the scenes of the show and what that meant, and she answered that she takes inspiring women seriously and that Fuller does, too. “As a female, you’ll see, when you start to hear more about the series, that that’s a big part of it,” she added.
Fuller put to rest the speculation about which universe the show was set in, saying “It is in the prime timeline.” He couldn’t say exactly when in the timeline would be set, however.
Turns out there’s a bit of controversy, as the Star Trek Discovery show (DON’T abbreviate it to S.T.D… no matter how tempting…) is claimed to be in the original time line, but has “production values” from the latest movies. We’ve got “Yet Another Klingon” look (can’t they stop screwing around with the Klingons?) and uniforms that are way more modern than the original and even in some ways beyond TNG. Special Effects look really really good (as you would expect given 50 years of computer improvement in that department). Then, there are aliens and plot lines that are not in the original nor in the movie time line. So some folks are calling this yet another “reboot” timeline…
This comes back, down below, when looking at Fan Movies. Seems the fans are sometimes fanatical about keeping all the details tidy and don’t like it when the writers and directors make up stuff that isn’t in some way able to fit into the known “facts”… So some of them made their own amateur movies, which look to be quite good, and Paramount has their panties in a bunch over that. One could make comments about fans and amateurs making a Star Trek movie more true to the original than the “professionals”, but I won’t. For now.
Then similar short one at 2:40
So I’m liking the special effects, and I’m liking the characters being shown. But clearly this is way more “Abrams like” and Kelvin and not really much at all like The Original, Enterprise, or TNG. Supposedly set in between Enterprise and The Original, it has tech and special effects way past TNG. OK, “reboot” it is. Would I really want a movie with cheap costumes and wooden panel sliding doors moved by a stage hand and medical gear made by shopping for salt shakers at Walmart? No, not really…
But it would be nice if they kept some of the timeline and characters more consistent and especially nice if the “creative” department didn’t keep “reinventing” the Klingons as yet again some other alien species… They HAVE a defined type (or ought to). They don’t keep screwing around with the Vulcans, after all.
There are more prime roles for women, and it looks from the trailer like there’s a Chinese “hook” what with a ship with a Chinese sounding name and a captain with a Chinese accent. OK, looking to crack that big China market eh? (Odd how you don’t get a lot of Latvian or Kenyan captains…)
Long Trailer “Extended Comic Con” 6:10
Star Trek Discovery Trailer 2 “extended” 4:12
Note the Netflix branding on the trailer. This is the ROW branding. Note, too, the 25th date, that’s the UK date and the UK gets to wait an extra day…
OK, so that’s the trailers. We will most likely buy CBS All Access come September. (Ether that, or I figure out how to “unlocalize” my Netflix enough and with enough bandwidth to get it from the UK ;-) We are a Trekkie household. No, not going with “Trekker”. That can be for young kids. I’m as labeled in the ’60s and not changing now. As true Trekkies, we’ll be watching it at first offering.
Will we keep CBS First Access after the series ends? Probably not. Time will tell. (Hey, CBS: HINT HINT HINT – keep a Star Trek on every single year or take an earnings and stock price tumble…)
This may be a ‘reboot’ that is impure in storyline, costumes, characters, whatever. I don’t really care. I like the high production values in the trailers and if that’s in the shows, I’m going to be glued to the set. I’m not as hard core about it all as others and just want a good Trek Show.
The Fan Movies & Controversies
Seems that some folks have decided to poke a bit of fun at all things Trek, so have a spoof being made. This isn’t a Fan Movie, it’s a series. It is getting more “chatter” among fandom than Discovery, which has CBS / Paramount all fuming… It is named The Orville. From the trailer for it, I’m definitly going to be watching this one:
That it has a ‘look’ more in line with the original / TNG (while still avoiding copyright issues) than does Discovery is all the more delicious and is adding to some of the Fan Base chatter.
Now prior to last night, I had no idea “Fan Movies” of Trek were in existence. Seems there’s like a 1/2 dozen of them. One has / had a $Million budget (crowd sourced I think) and done very well. This resulted in Paramount issuing a set of requirements for Fan Movies that basically says you can film your kid in a costume you bought from Paramount as long as it doesn’t run over 15 minutes and isn’t done with any professionals. No, honest. That’s what it says… Some fans who love their Fan Movies (often an homage or with a ‘walk on’ by a classic / TNG star) are incensed, and want to boycott Discovery. OK, I’m up for that. I’ll join in on that boycott thing for the reruns, OK?
You may want to turn the volume down for this. On my TV the startup music is loud:
Love it, just love what Fans can do…
These folks explore the rumors about chaos on the set of Discovery, changes and rechanges, and then explores some of what Axanar set on fire.
Looking for the full Axanar movie on line gave a “can’t post it see my website” video from one guy, others complaining. No idea what the actual status is, but I’m interested in seeing it (so more more exploring, maybe after dinner, on the cards).
Did find this one, though. Star Trek Horizon:
Then Renegades that looks to be a series:
Here’s Of Gods and Men, see if you recognize anyone from the opening…
So it looks to me like there’s a whole ‘nother world of “Open Source” Trek out there for me to discover… to Boldly Go where thousands have gone before… Which begs the question: Can you “dig” in space and can a “Dig Here!” happen? Looks like I’m going to find out.