It would seem that advocating for States Rights only means “evil right wing racist” when done by those not on the far left…
California has just voted to ignore Federal Law and Authority by ignoring immigration law. One of the few places where the Feds have clear authority at that.
California lawmakers approve landmark ‘sanctuary state’ bill to expand protections for immigrants
Jazmine Ulloa Contact Reporter
California lawmakers on Saturday passed a “sanctuary state” bill to protect immigrants without legal residency in the U.S., part of a broader push by Democrats to counter expanded deportation orders under the Trump administration.
The legislation by Sen. Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles), the most far-reaching of its kind in the country, would limit state and local law enforcement communication with federal immigration authorities, and prevent officers from questioning and holding people on immigration violations.
On Newsmax one commenter suggested Texas ought to just ignore Obamacare and cite California as precedent…
Well, at least Trump will know where to find most of the illegal immigrants…
Since practically everything the Dim’Rats do has as its goal the disruption/destabilization of our peace and welfare, are they not just setting themselves up for a trouncing whenever people get the chance to vote for a party that will enforce the law rather than ignore it?
Dims don’t _do_ law and order, do they? Why would anyone vote to give them more control?
So all this “resistance” could very well end up blowing their chances to take over, once everyone realizes they are the problem, no matter how many free phones they hand out.
While one would think so, the evidence is that the point of blowing up comes as a Venezuela Moment … i.e. long after the Socialist Collapse has screwed everything…
For California, we’ve reached the point where you have about 1/2 the folks running for office with Hispanic names & heritage, so about 3/4 of the Democrats… It’s now a political war between the Mexican Invasion and the Anglo Minority. Yes, Minority. In San Jose, hispanics are over 50%. In many central valley farm towns, much higher (in some it helps a lot to speak Spanish like in Gonzales when I swapped to it in the hardware store as the clerk was struggling with English).
Essentially the “end game” in California will be as a Mexican Dominated State resisting the rest of the USA. I’d not be surprised to see it vote to leave the USA and join Mexico. That’s the stated goal of folks like La Raza et. al. They see this as Alta Mexico and illegally stolen from Mexico.
Long before California found the joy of “State’s Rights”, the states of New England clamored for them as well. They threatened to secede during the war of 1812 because “it was not their fight”.
However, while there is ambiguity on the issue of secession, there is no ambiguity on immigration as you note. California can try to secede (and is trying), but the law they passed is clearly unconstitutional. But I do not expect a 9-0 vote against it as liberal SCOTUS justices are not very bright. They rule based upon feelings, and never think about the natural extension of their actions.
Well, I was about to cite “Texas vs White” as law that settled the issue of secession (as is often done by all sorts of folks) but decided to “Dig A Little” for verification I I sometimes do. Ran into this exposition of the legal case:
which basically says “Not So Fast – it was about bonds, not secession”…
All of which seems to me to be a pretty strong refutation of the idea that it prevents secession…
So also left unclear was the question of can the other 49 States vote to eject California for not adhering to the Union…. Just Sayin’….
Now my preferred solution to the whole thing would just be to admit Mexico’s States and Canada’s Provinces to The Union and call it all the United States of North America and be done with it. We already have functional open borders with Canada as thousands of SnowBirds flock south each winter for 6 months of retirement in Florida, and every summer hoards of vacationers from the USA flock north for lakes and fishing. More product crosses both ways than I can count. As per Mexico: Sure it’s a border… that just about anything and anyone crosses more or less at will to the tune of $Billions of drugs and 12 Million illegal immigrants (after a few rounds of amnesty has legalized further untold millions) while US tourists and retired folks dominate whole sections of Mexico ( Cabo anyone?…)
IMHO, the automobile made land borders much less solid and the rise of international air travel on a massive basis made them a minor nuisance at best. I’m sorry, but 1 minute with a customs clerk saying “Yes, I’m a tourist. Yes this is my stuff. No, I’m not a drug dealer” isn’t much of a barrier, and that, only for some folks some times. At the UK airport I just walked a gauntlet between tables and they called out some but not all folks. I looked bland so just walked on into the country. Maybe it’s tighter now, 30 years later… In Japan, I had to answer that “Yes I’m on a business trip and Yes I have Business Shoes!”… I travel in sandals and they wanted to see shoes suitable for a business meeting so I opened my suitcase and their they were.
So what IS a border these days, really? Right to work? I worked for weeks in both countries as a business trip. Right to vote? Many folks don’t bother to vote anyway. Benefits? I went to a UK Hospital for a minor issues (sty) and it was dealt with, even as a visitor.
We can either make the border a real and enforced thing AND police the untold millions who are here illegally; or admit it’s a failed concept and move on to integration. The middle ground sucks.
I don’t really care which way it falls, BTW. I’m good with the Old Rules of real borders and meaningful citizenship with enforcement of legal terms of presence. I’m also fine with “Y’all Come!” over the whole continent. Most Canadians are great folks, but they have some lousy actors too. Most Mexicans are fine folks, but they have some lousy actors in slightly larger numbers. Most USA Citizens are decent hard working folks, but we’ve got our own basket of creeps and loony toons (many in government…). Spanish is effectively the 2nd language of the USA as it stands. Making the place trilingual instead isn’t that hard a reach. ( I had both Spanish and French in school so I’m an existence proof of the concept. Spouse had French and Latin. Son had Spanish and Italian. Daughter had Spanish and American Sign Language.) Though I’d have it be voluntary as enforcing multi-lingual causes resentment.
Oh, just to complete the set: I’d also be fine with French Canadian secession, with Confederate States (again…), with California Alta Mexico, with Alaska British Canada; whatever. All three of the present forms of Government work well enough. All the cultures overlap to a pretty big degree, yet have stressful points of difference. Rearranging the deck chairs doesn’t change that much, relieving some bits and stressing others. Whatever works best for folks in their daily lives is fine with me. I really just don’t care…
Let’s put a toe into that water before we dive in over our heads.
I’d like to see Congress (and candidates and the “experts” on the news) debate a proposal to accept the entire Baja Penninsula as a new US territory, offered by the nation of Mexico to the nation of the United States as settlement, in full, of old debt and “payment” of costs associated with securing the mutual boder. “Securing the border” to permit, if not mandate, a physical wall.
The United States as a nation has historically benefitted from having a territorial frontier and arguably things have gotten worse since 1905 when Oklahoma transitioned to a state.
Adding about 3000 km of beachfront to the U.S. for development seems like a good idea in and of itself. Comparing what the US economic “system” might do, compared to what the Mexican system has done, might be instructive.
In worst case, I can’t imagine it being any worse than Puerto Rico.
Well… it was done once before, but maybe this time will be different ;-)
It goes on from there…
The simple fact is that Mexico and the USA have shared history in much of the land out west. Might be easier to just negotiate a “mutual occupation” of it all rather than us steal more of theirs or them simply Demographically Invade more of ours…
Then again, as I noted above, I’m open to just about anything that re-balances a bit and gets us back to more of a Rule Of Law mode of operation.
@ Pouncer re:
“The United States as a nation has historically benefitted from having a territorial frontier and arguably things have gotten worse since 1905 when Oklahoma transitioned to a state.”
Oklahoma became a state in 1907. It was landlocked for a long time before that.
These states share a border with Oklahoma and achieved statehood before she did:
Missouri – 1821
Arkansas – 1836
Texas – 1845
Kansas – 1861
Only 4 states achieved statehood after Oklahoma.
New Mexico – 1912
Arizona – 1912
Alaska – 1959
Hawaii – 1959
I don’t understand why you pinpoint Oklahoma’s statehood year as the point in time where border problems began. Oklahoma wasn’t on the territorial border, anyway.
And not only has California long been heading down the road to takeover by La Raza, but also Texas and everything in between. I’ve been hearing that for decades. At first, it didn’t seem likely, but I have to admit it almost looks like a done deal. My brother was in basic training in San Antonio, I think it was in the 80’s. The whole family drove out there to spend Christmas Day with him since he was not allowed to spend more than a few hours off base. So the family picked him up and tried to find diversions to entertain ourselves. Not much was open on Christmas Day. The zoo was. We were the only white family in view. In fact, everywhere we went that day, we were the only white family in view. It made me wish I had studied Spanish instead of French in high school. ;-)
Then all at once, Dad looked at his watch with concern and said my brother was about to be AWOL. He took the wheel of one car and put me behind the wheel of the other car and said, “Try to keep up with me.” Then he took off across San Antonio as fast as prudently (or maybe not so prudently?) possible. I did manage to stay right behind him. I will never know why he thought I was the #2 racecar-driver-wannabe in the family!
In San Jose, Hispanics are the majority at about 52% (Official numbers, not counting “undocumenteds”…) and I’m a small minority. Spanish is ubiquitous though most of the Hispanics make a show of using English when I’m around (and I love to surprise them by shifting to Spanglish… ;-)
In my home town, that WAS mostly WASP, it is now heavily Hispanic, being a central valley agricultural town.
You can repeat that for most of the State outside the Core Urban Centers like San Francisco and Los Angeles (that have their own large Hispanic populations… but not dominant).
Basically, the best way to understand California, IMHO, is as a Hispanic State with a White Face on in the public / political elite … for now… (Nancy, pack your bags… Maria is running for your seat soon…)
@Pouncer & E.M. – I am glad the US failed to annex Baja, as you can get vision and dental care dirt cheap! (and it is good quality). But what it is not is bound by the malpractice litigation and insurance that drives up US prices to a point of not being affordable.