W.O.O.D. 19 January 2018

This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:
and remains open for threads running there
(at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

So use “Tips” for “Oooh, look at the interesting ponder thing!”
and “W.O.O.D” for “Did you see what just happened?! What did you think about it?”

For this week, I’ve been up to my axles in car stuff, so not paying much attention to the world. A 2 day round trip to Vegas can do that to you ;-) Especially Yet Another Unplanned Bus ride…

My news cycle this morning had more Trump Bashing, but it seems more half hearted now. Little Chucky Schumer wants to shut down the Federal Government. The Dims seem to think they can blame this on the Republicans as they “control everything” while anyone with half a brain (leaving out them and their “constituents” – but including most run of the mill Democrats) realize it’s a 60 votes barrier in the Senate. Perhaps it’s time to invoke the “Nuclear Option” and say “Well, the Democrats SAID we were in control, so were in favor of this…”

Lots of news stories of the Frozen South. Atlanta learning to deal with snow. Florida again “raining Iguanas”. Europe getting walloped in snow. Cold in Australia and New Zealand. Even some issues in South America (despite the season). Oh, and snow in the Sahara…. must be that new global warming snow that doesn’t melt in hot deserts… /sarc;

Then there is the EU. Imploding, Exploding, and corrupting all in slow motion. Swedes on a slow burn to cultural explosion. Catalans trying to decide who’s in charge. Briton going for the Brexit at THE slowest rate possible and being nudged backward by the EU Power Brokers.

Oh, and what with “Russia Did It!” collapsing (and snaring some of their own) the Left has moved on to Man Bashing. Anyone who has ever told a woman she looked nice is now a rapist… and it’s snaring a whole lot of Hollywood Elite who just knew it didn’t apply to them… (only 1/2 sarc;) In France 100 women who actually like attention signed a letter saying maybe it was a good thing to have some seduction in their lives – and were promptly vilified. Wonder what Bright Idea for FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt) and Republican Bashing the Dims can think to try next (and have yet more backfire on themselves…)

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138 Responses to W.O.O.D. 19 January 2018

  1. philjourdan says:

    “while anyone with half a brain”

    Which leaves out CNN and Acosta since he had to be told that repeatedly.

  2. Another Ian says:

    There was a major Windows 10 update last night.

    Might have slowed down Thunderbird by this morning’s performance. Firefox seems ok.

  3. Another Ian says:

    The chickens are circling the roost

    “Peak heat: Electricity prices lifting off; industry shutting off in Australia. Hospitals switching off lights, “Code Yellow Alert”. ”


  4. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting observation about genetics by Nicholas Taleb
    Talking about principal component analysis (sorry I cannot find the original cartoon reference he mentions but the genetic mapping is what caught my attention.

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb
    8 hours ago
    To understand the Mary Beard BBC cartoon problem, here is a 2-D genetic distances of the world (PCA); the map seems to work (if you are confused about Peru, it is not without a reason).
    Wonder if someone has seen a 3-D PCA

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb
    11 minutes ago
    The genetic map of mankind looks like a triangle with 3 corners, points on only 2 sides, & almost nothing in the interior.
    The vertical axis counts less than the horizontal one as the 1st PC explains the bulk of the distance.

    Molson Hart

    8h8 hours ago
    Replying to @nntaleb @PZalloua
    Can someone confirm for me how to interpret this map?

    2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    Reply 2 Retweet Like 2 Direct message

    Rhiju Bhowmick

    8h8 hours ago
    Molson: Here’s a crude attempt –
    1. Different colours = different genes
    2. Greater distance between 2 nations on the map, greater their genetic differences
    3. Larger colour variation within a nation = greater genetic diversity
    4. Greater density of one colour = more homogeneous

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb‏Verified account
    Following @nntaleb
    Replying to @Rhiju @TheBigYogurt @PZalloua
    Ignore colors, they refer to samples.

    Rhiju Bhowmick

    8h8 hours ago
    Replying to @nntaleb @TheBigYogurt @PZalloua
    Thanks. Then only distances and clusters.
    EuroMed is both distinctly different from Subsaharan, San, Maasai, and relatively closer to Egypt and Morocco than those three.

    Achintya Srivastava
    7 hours ago
    Replying to @nntaleb @Rhiju and 2 others
    Rosenberg’s Genetic Clustering model is also made on similar lines. Must check this too.

    8 hours ago
    Replying to @nntaleb @PZalloua
    I’m not surprised at all about Peru: Peruvian cuisine is an excellent mixture of Asian, European and indigenous. Indigenous is bound to be close to Melanesian.

    Peter Guhl
    6 hours ago
    Same. Indigenous people of Asian origin, lots of influental Japanese immigrants (Fujimori etc.) (I got told by a tourist guide Quetchua and Japanese are even somewhat similar languages), and less Europeans than you might expect.

  5. Larry Ledwick says:

    wiki has a better image of the Rosenberg clustering.


  6. Steve C says:

    In addition to diehard Remainers fighting every inch of the way against Brexit, the story of the moment in Britain is the collapse of one of the biggest contractors in the governmental “Private Finance Initiative” (a.k.a. “Public-Private Partnership”).

    This is an industrial scale scam allowing private companies to nominate and extract untold millions of public money, guaranteed by contracts, for building and maintaining public works. It has been enthusiastically embraced by governments of both colours over the last few decades, as it allows them to pretend that they are building new infrastructure, hospitals etc. without needing to find any money (at the time of the announcement, at least) for it themselves.

    Carillion, who are major players in this financial whirligig, are currently going belly up leaving thousands of small suppliers owed humdreds of millions of quid, a £2600 million hole in its pension provision, management seen scurrying around saving their telephone number bonuses just before the crash … it’s yet another show of “the unacceptable face of capitalism”.

    One guess who ends up paying for all this. Hint: Not Carillion’s directors.

  7. Larry Ledwick says:

    It would be nice if major corporations who give huge stock options to their senior management were required to also put a lien on those stock option for major losses. That would make the management have some skin in the game and a bit more reluctant to work bad deals if they knew they could lose 80% of their stock options on a major loss.

  8. A C Osborn says:

    Steve C says: 20 January 2018 at 8:54 am

    You forgot the news that Theresa May or Maynot has confirmed she is a Remoaner and would, despite everything that has come out about EU plans, would still vote to remain.
    I said when Cameron Resigned without invoking article 50 that it was a ploy to delay as long as possible and so it has been all the way through since then.
    We are being sold down the river yet again.
    Absolutely no mention of Heath taking us in to the EEC on out & out lies.

  9. Steve C says:

    @AC – UKIP Daily had a nice couple of articles last year on Heath’s high treason, entitled “A Layman’s Guide to the English Constitution”, in two parts: Part 1 and Part 2.

    The article is by Sonya Jay Porter, extracted from a booklet by Albert Burgess, the ex-copper who pointed out Heath’s treachery at the time. You can still watch his “A Case for Treason” on Youtube, and as far as I know, no-one’s ever proved him wrong. SJP explicitly points out that the Government’s own guide, unlike hers, is “a work designed to mislead the ordinary man, woman and child in this country”.

    As for Appeaser May, I think we all knew that about her anyway, but then who’d give tuppence for the lot of ’em? Not I. Nor most of us, it seems: “two out of three citizens believe that the present system of governing Britain is in need of significant improvement”, per “Since 1997 Britain Has Been ‘Drifting Towards Elective Dictatorship’“. This is, of course, using the verb “drift” as in “the racing cars drifted away from the start line” – i.e. pedal-to-the-metal drift.

    But yes. With UKIP currently indulging in a major session of infighting worthy of the Labour Party at its finest, there is nobody now even to call attention to our being sold down the river ‘cept us little folks, and who ever listened to us?.

  10. jim2 says:

    @Larry Ledwick says:
    20 January 2018 at 10:19 am

    Sounds like you are channeling Taleb. How about they are put under contract and paid a modest salary. They are given a bonus fund. At the end of each quarter, a certain amount of money is added to or taken away from the bonus fund, depending on performance of the company. At the end of their contract, they get the bonus, or owe if it’s negative.

  11. E.M.Smith says:


    Didn’t see Papua / Australia on that PCA map… wonder where they go?

    Peru (and other coastal S. America) is believed to have had Japanese arrivals by boat after a massive volcano in Japan something like 1400 AD. Even similar potter style and a disease (now extinct) found only in that area of Japan and in old burials in S. America… Pretty good evidence these folks have been swapping genes for a long time.

    Here’s one I can actually read…

    FWIW, tracing back my various ancestral lineages, the all end up around the English Channel and nearby. Mum was directly from England, but of mixed British and Viking roots. The Angles and Vikings came from the other side, over near Denmark and German coastal. Dad’s Irish arrived in Ireland via a run over the from the Gaelic areas of Spain about 900 AD (Mil de Espania…) and his Amish came via Switzerland, but they got there from… coastal Germany near Holland today…

    So basically I’m a mutt made up of folks who lived along that one Atlantic Coastal / Channel area from north Spain to Denmark. Given that those folks have been “exchanging genes” for a few thousand years, I’d wager I’m a fairly average sample of the region… So for me a “map” is unlikely to show much of interest. The Spouse has similar historical roots from almost the same areas, but via different paths. It will only get interesting with the grandkid. Now you mix in Dutch and Puerto Rican. The Dutch is in the same series; but the Puerto Rican is a “Who knows what!”. Dark hair, “other than Lilly white” skin – but of unknown origin. Native American Islander? African Black? Swarthy Mediterranean? Nobody really knows. “Someday” I might send a swab off somewhere just to find out; but so far I’ve not been interested enough. To busy playing games with the guy ;-)

    @Steve C:

    I’ve seen hints of that collapse on Sky, but really don’t understand it (due to lack of paying attention on my part… so “some company” in trouble, government involved, politicians tossing rocks at each other over it, next story…)

    Kind of wish I knew enough about it to know why it matters so much.


    Interesting idea…. Just have them issue a mandatory option, expires 3 years after exit from the company, for the company to repurchase the shares at the option price IF they are not, say, more than 20% higher than the option price. Basically a “grow it or lose it” option…

    @Steve C & A.C.:

    Given that article 50 has been invoked, how hard would it be to have a last minute Murder of Brexit?

  12. A C Osborn says:

    E M, I am sure they could contrive something, or even a “re-joining” after leaving.

  13. A C Osborn says:

    Steve C says: 20 January 2018 at 4:06 pm
    The Papers concerning the Treason perpertrated by Heath were released in I think 2002 and immediately hushed up.
    The Daily Mail did a piece on it 2012 and the Daily Express Last year, but no massive public outcry, the majority of the public have been and are still sleep walking and brain washed.



    To this day I still can’t understand why this was not plastered over the leave bus and adverts taken out in every newspaper and TV Channel and used by UKIP.
    Although as every Government since Heath have been guilty of hiding it may be the reason.

  14. Alexander K says:

    As a Kiwi who is mildly proud of my British roots, that pride took something of a beating while living and working in the UK for almost a decade a few short years ago. As is the case everywhere, most people are great on an individual basis but the Brit political class appears to be cobbled together from a collection of misfits, cons, upper class twits and straight-out simpletons, the majority of whom would not recognize a simple set of ethics if they were slapped in the face with them. As I age I become ever more disenchanted with politicians everywhere in the world and feel that the USA is currently very fortunate to have a President who is not of the political class.
    His efforts to drain the swamp are cheering for at least this solitary observer from afar in a country where the ruling socialist politicians are desperate to import fakeugees who will, after their arrival, be long-term welfare beneficiaries and a continual source of social problems almost entirely due to their vast cultural differences from ours.
    And if I enunciate these thoughts in public I will be viewed as (at best) a nasty and antisocial redneck.

  15. Larry Ledwick says:

    50 – 100 years from now, this passion for rampant immigration will be viewed with the same perplexed wonder as lemmings running off a cliff. (If our society survives this test), otherwise it will be commemorated as a great victory for the invaders.

  16. Steve C says:

    @EM – There has been talk in the media this week about how we could use “Article 49” to undo Article 50 and rejoin. Typical article, in the Independent, here. But given that “They” can blithely ignore high treason when it suits them, it hardly matters what the law actually says, does it? When They want to do something, They do it and just declare it legal. Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

    @Alexander K – You’re right, sadly. The country I have to live in now simply is not my country. It’s deeply worrying how many people agree when I say that.

  17. A C Osborn says:

    I am another, as are my wife & brothers .
    I think you have to be of “a certain age” and lived through the 50s/60s/70s etc to see how much has changed for the worse.

  18. jim2 says:

    Even in the US, of which I am a citizen, psychopaths and con men to a large extent run it. This seems to be a universal cancer of the human condition. We have people who like to wield power to feed their ego or even like to actively harm others.

    George Soros is certainly a good example, but he has so much company among the so-called elites all over the world. Most of us are happy to make a living and enjoy life – that is the problem the rest of us have.

  19. cdquarles says:

    Yep, the West seems to be run by a socialist lawyer-academic-media complex all believing in a false religion (which is why breaking up corporations, commercial or not, is not going to get the result some want). Faith and religion are natural, as in essential, to humanity, which is why we are not just another animal.

  20. jim2 says:

    At the end of Meet the Press, at the summing up, mention was made of the viscous political environment and foul language used by politicians lately. In an attempt to lay all this at the feet of Trump, one of the left-leaning panelists said that because of Trump, this is the new normal. Had she omitted the word “new,” she would have been correct and of course, Trump wouldn’t any longer be the cause. She would be better off using curse words than lying.

  21. jim2 says:

    Viscous should have been vicious, but the former might also apply ;)

  22. Another Ian says:

    Re Australia’s electricity supply “chickens circling the roost”

    Expensive chickens

    “Bonfire Electricity Bills! Two day heat wave burns nearly $400m: $45 per head in Vic, $80 each in SA.”


  23. Another Ian says:

    Pointman on Twitter

    “Twitter is fundamentally corrupt.”


  24. Russ Wood says:

    Well, if you wondered what the Dims were going to use for FUD next – there’s the latest “We could be hit by an asteroid while NASA’s not watching the stars!” ‘Cos of course, it’s the WATCHING that keeps ’em away!

  25. Larry Ledwick says:

    ‘Cos of course, it’s the WATCHING that keeps ’em away!

    Well we haven’t been hit by an asteroid while they were watching – must work.
    Same reason I don’t have problems with unicorns in my garden.


  26. E.M.Smith says:

    I’ve been watching for a gold mine to show up… now I know why I’m broke! ;-)

    I think I’ll go watch some Democratic Operatives ;-)

    Maybe I can even find time to watch out for my electric bill ….

  27. Another Ian says:

    Analysis of he political view on those electrical chickens in Oz

    “Madness and misinformation in renewables-land: South Australia brags they didn’t have to “load shed” ”

    Just they forgot to mention job shedding and a few other things


  28. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmm interesting, the Dems folded on the shut down but this is happening:


  29. jim2 says:

    Trump put tariffs on Chinese solar panels. Yawn.

  30. llanfar says:

    From tonight’s Q posts (https://qcodefag.github.io):

    What would happen if texts originating from a FBI agent to several [internals] discussed the assassination (possibility) of the POTUS or member of his family?
    What if the texts suggest foreign allies were involved?
    Forget the Russia set up [1 of 22].
    This is only the beginning.
    Be careful what you wish for.
    Could messages such as those be publicly disclosed?
    What happens to the FBI?
    What happens to the DOJ?
    What happens to special counsel?
    What happens in general?
    Every FBI/DOJ prev case could be challenged.
    Think logically.
    We haven’t started the drops re: human trafficking / sacrifices [yet][worst].
    Those [good] who know cannot sleep.
    Those [good] who know cannot find peace.
    Those [good] who know will not rest until those responsible are held accountable.
    Nobody can possibly imagine the pure evil and corruption out there.
    Those you trust are the most guilty of sin.
    Who are we taught to trust?
    If you are religious, PRAY.
    60% must remain private [at least] – for humanity.
    These people should be hanging.

  31. E.M.Smith says:

    Looks like a Great Quake in the gulf of Alaska. Tsunami warnings went out, but no significant tsunami developed. Initially 8.2, now downgraded to 7.9 or so.

    There is a history of alternating Great Quakes between Japan and the Alaska / Washington area. But with about a decade offset. So is this the one to match the Fukushima quake? Or being only 7 years later, is it just a for-shock of the Really Big One? An 8 isn’t quite the same as the historical 9 sized…


  32. E.M.Smith says:

    Finally got around to reading some of TCTH stuff. This one seems to outline the state of play well at the moment:


    More there there than I have time to unpack at the moment… what with a dozen links to more detail per paragraph…

    ← Mick Mulvaney and Marc Short Press Conference on Government Shutdown…Representative Matt Gaetz Interview With Judge Jeanine Pirro Surrounding FISA Abuse Memo… →
    House Intelligence Committee Will Vote To Release FISA Corruption Memo…
    Posted on January 20, 2018 by sundance
    According to Representative Dave Joyce (R-OH14) the House Intelligence Committee will hold a vote on the release of the four-page Nunes memo that reveals systemic corruption within the DOJ and FBI; including the unlawful use of FISA-702(16)(17) data searches which were part of an elaborate DOJ-FBI surveillance program on the political campaign of Donald Trump.

    Additionally, Chad Pergram reported that Chairman Devin Nunes met with Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte to discuss the best process to release the memo. There are generally two ways it could be done, the HPSCI vote is the most likely.

    As more people have become aware of the back-story to the campaign surveillance, FISA-702 issue, and the unlawful conduct of the FBI and DOJ, there is also a great deal of misinformation. Few people have followed the entire story as it unfolded and that has led to large numbers of people mistakenly thinking the process for revealing the classified intelligence -at the heart of the issue- can be easily released.

    There are also multiple media voices taking advantage of people with limited understanding of the year-long process. Glenn Greenwald published an article today claiming there were “Four Easy Ways” the Nunes memo could be revealed. That article by Greenwald is intentional disinformation targeted to cloud the larger issues and create chaos. A deconstruction of Greenwald’s ridiculous arguments is HERE.

    It is essential the process is followed that allows the larger story to come out without providing the use of political cover by those who are intent on hiding the corruption.

    Once the House Intelligence Committee votes to declassify the four-page memo, the White House, National Security Adviser (H.R. McMaster) and National Security Council will have five days to review the content. The White House will likely have a brief review by the NSC and the Office of Legal Counsel of the content, and then issue approval for the release.

    There are poorly informed voices who claim President Trump can arbitrarily declassify the Nunes memo. That is false. The White House (the executive branch) does not own the document. The Nunes memo is owned by the Legislative Branch, and specifically by the House Intelligence Committee. The Executive Branch can request the memo, but they cannot demand it without following a process. Therefore, without submission, the executive branch cannot declassify it. There is an inherent constitutional separation of power.

    Secondly, while it might seem like a good idea for President Trump to declassify the Nunes memo, if given by the Intel Committee, it would not be prudent to do so. Within this classified document Donald Trump is the subject of adverse action outlined therein.

    The President was the target of the unlawful action by the DOJ and FBI as reportedly outlined within the Nunes memo. Because the memo contains details of FBI and DOJ surveillance, Donald Trump (now POTUS) is both the victim and the head of law enforcement in charge of investigation the illegal action that created the victim.

    In addition to being both the victim and charged with the legal authority over the FBI and DOJ, there are downstream ramifications due to Special Counsel Robert Mueller investigating President Trump for “Obstruction of Justice”.

    White House lawyer Don McGahn would clearly instruct Trump (victim) to stay the hell away from this investigation. There is an inherent conflict. Any exceptional action taken by POTUS could be construed as interference, including violations of the separation of powers.

    Therefore the best route as constructed by Nunes and Goodlatte would be for the House to vote to declassify, pass on to the Executive for review, then President Trump grants approval for the request of the House (legislative branch).

    By law, all attempts by the legislative branch to declassify intelligence information must be given to the executive branch for review in advance of release. This is because the executive branch needs to see if any current intelligence operations might be compromised by information not known to the legislative branch.

    The National Security Council and any impacted offices of the intelligence information (CIA, NSA, FBI, DOJ, U.S. DoS, DOD, etc.) review, provide opinion, and sign off prior to executive approval and release.

    It is not just this declassification that goes through this process, all declassification goes through this process. In this example, presumably, the President has no adverse reason to block the declassification request and it is likely all approvals will happen quite quickly.

    After the White House approves of the HPSCI request, the Memo then becomes public.

    That’s when Democrats will attack the memo as being authored and misrepresented by Chairman Devin Nunes. This is the politics.

    If/when this happens (highly likely it will), Chairman Nunes will then request the entire House of Representatives be given the opportunity to see the underlying FISA documentation that led to the summary.

    The underlying FISA documentation likely includes the DOJ/FBI FISA application as presented to the FISA court; again, likely to include the “Clinton/Steele Dossier”.

    Additionally, the FISA-702 raw data will include the FBI “searches” on Trump officials that led to the upstream collection of information and the subsequent “unmasking” of Trump officials.

    Releasing the underlying FISA documentation -that proves the Nunes FISA memo- will likely follow a similar path as the Nunes memo itself. Again, this is a process, and within each of these processes there are revelations as to the scope of the corruption and conspiracy.

    And this is just Devin Nunes.
    IG Stimulated Releases of Information:
    ♦Release #1 was the FBI Agent Strzok and Attorney Lisa Page story; and the repercussions from discovering their politically motivated bias in the 2015/2016 Clinton email investigation and 2016/2017 Russian Election investigation.

    ♦Release #2 outlined the depth of FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Attorney Page’s specific history in the 2016 investigation into Hillary Clinton to include the changing of the wording [“grossly negligent” to “extremely careless”] of the probe outcome delivered by FBI Director James Comey.

    ♦Release #3 was the information about DOJ Deputy Bruce Ohr being in contact with Fusion GPS at the same time as the FISA application was submitted and granted by the FISA court; which authorized surveillance and wiretapping of candidate Donald Trump; that release also attached Bruce Ohr and Agent Strzok directly to the Steele Dossier.

    ♦Release #4 was information that Deputy Bruce Ohr’s wife, Nellie Ohr, was an actual contract employee of Fusion GPS, and was hired by F-GPS specifically to work on opposition research against candidate Donald Trump. Both Bruce Ohr and Nellie Ohr are attached to the origin of the Christopher Steele Russian Dossier.

    ♦Release #5 was the specific communication between FBI Agent Strzok and FBI Attorney Page. The 10,000 text messages that included evidence of them both meeting with Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe to discuss the “insurance policy” against candidate Donald Trump in August of 2016.

  33. Another Ian says:


    More on the electricity scene in Oz’


    I’m beginning to think of renewables as the electricity industry’s equivalent of that “100 miles per gallon carburettor” .

    I’m also remembering a local joke from back when there were all those magic magnets and things that “were guaranteed to improved your fuel consumption” of the bloke who had them all and got pulled over by a cop because his fuel tank was overflowing.

  34. pouncer says:

    Off topic completely — or perhaps better for the “monopoly” thread, but I post here anyhow.

    In the pre-WWII era of the Hindenburg dirigible aircraft, the US government designated helium (captured during oil and natural gas extraction) a military commodity. The US continues to monitor, store, set sales targets and prices, and otherwise heavily regulate trade in this resource.

    In the mid-2000s (the “oughts”?) concerns began to grow that the world was “running out” of helium, and there were even calls to ration retail sales of the party-balloon tanks of the stuff. Wasteful and frivolous use of an irreplaceable resource. This worry never caught on quite as much as the “energy crisis” or “global warming” but the popular TV show “The Big Bang Theory” did devote a 2015 episode to the scientists, (needing significant quantities of cryonic liquid stuff) having to pay exorbitant black market rates to get a bootleg supply. The world was, we were told, running out of precious helium. EVEN THOUGH the US government was doing it’s very best to keep the supply matched to the (perceived, politically correct, “real”) needs.

    Guess what? Oh, go on — guess. Were these fears realized? Has the supply tightened in the past five years or so? Have prices risen? Have the quantities sequestered in US Government military reserve tanks in Amarillo Texas been drawn down? Have other sources — of oil and natural gas outside the US — failed to deploy the 1930’s technology necessary to capture the slippery atoms during recovery of the more marketable fossil substances? In short, is the world impending shortage of helium “worse than we thought” ?


  35. E.M.Smith says:


    It is not possible to be “off topic” on an “open discussion” thread ;-)

    the 00’s are properly called “The Oughties” (just don’t nasalize it!)

    Per Helium:

    The USA has one of the very few “Helium Wells”. It is highly likely that someday it will run out.

    At the same time, the production of much more natural gas will mean much more helium is produced.

    At the same, same time, not one ballon escapes to orbit… and while a tiny amount of helium does escape to space, the simple fact is that when we liquefy air, which is done far more industrially than most folks appreciate, we do have residual helium in the non-liquified portion. Is it captured and sold? I have no idea. Probably not worth it most of the time as we DO have a helium well… But think of all the oxygen used in hospitals and other industries like welding, and all the pure nitrogen used for all sorts of things from “dry air atmospheres” to filling car tires. The neon and argon in lasers and “neon” lights. Much of that comes from liquefied air followed by fractional distillation if further purity is needed that that yielded in the fractional condensation process.

    The reality is that stuff just does not “go away”. There is no such place as “away”. It hangs around, just in a somewhat more dilute form, waiting for a price rise to make it an economical resource, or a technological advance to make the cost to produce low enough it becomes an economical resource. So all those ‘wasted” balloons did not die in vain. They enriched the liquefied air products.

    Finally, we can always make helium using nuclear reactors. Spit out an alpha particle and wait…

  36. Larry Ledwick says:

    Gee it is going to be fun when there are enough electric cars to melt the grid when they all plug in to charge at dinner time, while everyone is cooking on their all electric ranges and running the air conditioners.


  37. Coming soon, tests as to how accepting students are of other cultures.

  38. jim2 says:

    Why all this talk about all this other crap??? What about fracking??? /sarc

  39. jim2 says:

    Good summary of Supreme Court cases in play. Lot’s of very important bits of law here:


  40. And another weird harbinger of things to come, where a live performance is being sued for not providing a sign-language interpreter for the deaf, even though they did do that for the part of the show they’d been asked to. Maybe I could sue them also for not singing in my language, or for not allowing for colour-blindness or simple blindness. “We had paid for our tickets like everyone else.” That deaf, dumb, and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball….

  41. jim2 says:

    RE @Simon Derricutt says:24 January 2018 at 1:18 pm

    Idiocracy realized.

  42. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmm the plot thickens – seems thousands of FBI phone all suffered the same “technical glitch” that wiped thousands of text messages.

    Well isn’t that an odd coincidence?


  43. jim2 says:

    @Larry Ledwick says: 24 January 2018 at 8:20 pm

    Looks like a case of Obstruction of Justice to me.

  44. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting item on snow melt river flow being driven by dust load on the snow pack (ie albedo) not spring temperatures.


  45. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting secondary thought, if the above is true, the break out of the ice age may be driven by volcanic ash and wind blown dust once we pass some critical axial tilt.

    That has been implied in the past but this study if valid would tend to support that theory.

    One secondary issue is how frequently it snows to “refresh” the high brightness albedo, a second necessary condition in addition to the dust load in the snow pack you would have to have sufficiently in frequent snow fall that the surface snow melt can concentrate the surface dust as it begins to melt.

  46. pouncer says:

    Hello and a follow up on He.

    According to the US Geological Survey, the amount of helium produced in the US is in fact up since the worry about shortages was first “floated”. The amount of helium in our Amarillo reserves is up. The amount being produced in other nations (primarily Qatar, followed by Algeria, Australia, and lately Russia) is up. The ability of industries to capture and re-cycle the gas — attributed to “European” industries and deplored as ignored by US industry — is up.

    As near as I can reconstruct the events leading to the concerns of the “oughties”, there were innovations in technology coming along in about 2007 that spurred investments in new capture, storage, and distribution “toys”. Everybody in the game wanted the new toys. Flows into the national reserves dropped while producers were changing over the toys. The prices producers wanted from the government – to pay for the new toys — were quoted higher, and auction prices spiked at times. New projects in Qatar and elsewhere, just starting up at that time and using the new toys, were headlines in the news as projects bheind schedule and over budget. (Normal, right?) The whole scare was basically a misinterpretation of what was really in retrospect GOOD news about getting more useful stuff out of holes in the ground.

    From the timing — I blame Dick Cheney for the toys, Haliburton for the investments, and Dan Rather for the news. Probably not true,but …

  47. beththeserf says:

    kinda’ like
    the lost arc
    of the

  48. David A says:

    It took two days for the white hats to find the text messages. Things not looking good for the bad guys.

    There are some white hats ensuring that the memo gets released; all part of the plan to force light into the MSM.

    “If not for the courage of the fearless crew the memo would be lost…”

  49. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A.: “memo lost”! Good one!!

    What the “deleters” forget is that there are legions of I.T. folks working in the background who’s major or sometimes only job is to assure NOTHING IS EVER LOST.


    Well, first off, there’s the constant steam of “I didn’t mean to delete it; can you save my bacon?” that comes in every day. Deletions and recoveries are SOP in I.T. shops. Then there’s the need for systems recovery from hardware, software, and hacker failures. Most every shop out there does some form of “Towers of Hanoi” backups. Full dumps quarterly or monthly, summary to date from last full dump monthly or weekly, daily incrementals every day in between. (There are other systems of timing as well, but you get the idea. Then you recycle the daily dumps after a month or so, and the weekly dumps about once a year. A quarterly or annual full dump is often kept FOREVER (or until your company fails…)

    So any given “deleted” stuff is likely also going to be on at minimum the daily dumps for a month, the last weekly for a year, then the monthly and / or quarterly dumps (of which their may be dozens) for years to “forever”.

    Now it can take a while to go through all those and find THE moment when a given set of data was stored, but unless you wipe them all, it’s there.

    It IS possible to have something not saved. For example, say I make a KEEP.ME file on Tuesday, but deleted on Thursday and the weekly full dump is done on Saturday. It will exist on the Tuesday tape / disk / cloud image ONLY. It wasn’t copied on Wed or Thurs as those were only new incremental data (though some systems will do ‘since last full dump’ and it would be on Wed and Thurs- depending on when Thurs the delete vs backup ran). It was not there on Saturday so didn’t make the long retention tape. You have until the dailys are reused to recover that file. Typically about a month.

    But those FBI records were not removed within days. They made it to some long retention media. That means a lot of searching those media to find exactly where, so some time, but the first thing you do when some request shows up is STOP THE REUSE CYCLE so you have unlimited time.

    Then, beyond that:

    In many cases, such as things that might be mandated by law like email retention under SarBox or folks involved in legal cases (police, lawyers, etc.) there’s “retain for years” mandates. Specialized equipment is used to assure it simply is impossible to delete things.

    Network Appliance, for example, sells an email and file archive system where even the systems administrator can not delete files. The reason for this is just that the C.I.O. of a company can go to prison if email retention is not done and it does not matter why. One cranky systems admin could send you to jail? “Yes, I’ll buy that box that can not be erased by anyone!!!”

    I’ve also frequently made various backups onto WORM drives. Write Once Read Many. That covers CD drives, DVDs, various other optical disks. Cheap and easy AND permanent.

    Now once you have one of those, you tend to use it even for non-legally mandated things. It’s cheap and fast, so…

    As the head I.T. Guy, you KNOW you will be blamed if you can not recover a file, you also know nobody will care what the size is for your DVD budget…

    But Wait, there’s More!

    When is deleted NOT deleted?

    Many technologies have very lazy deletion. You say “delete”, it just puts that file on a “someday recover the space” list. Various kinds of names are used for this. “Trashcan”, “free list”, “unlinked files”. Until some effort is exerted to make that space actually reused or released; the file is still there.

    But Wait, there’s More!

    Those unlinked files, even when returned to the active file system for reuse still have the various bits on them. Large files will be a bit “scrambled” as their bits will be spread over many file blocks and the order of those blocks is lost; but small files that fit in one block will typically still be whole and in one place. “Small” is defined when the file system is built. It used to be 512 characters (kB) but is now typically 4 kB (4096 bytes). Think how much larger that is than your typical tweet or IM.

    Until someone actually writes a file on top of those “free blocks”, that data remains.

    But Wait, there’s MORE more!

    Even when a block is re-written, the history of writes leaves a very hard to detect, but present, signature on some media. Write a 1 over a 0 it is less magnetized than writing a 1 over a prior 1 on a magnetic media. This is in the land of digital forensics, but “that’s what we do” and it is what the FBI Forensics labs do… PITA? You bet. Slow, expensive, typically only done when nothing else works AND it is critical to try even though error prone (i.e. often doesn’t work).

    Now layer things… Say I do my backups onto the “cloud”. I manage a Towers Of Hanoi set of file images “somewhere”. Yet those images are in fact on a computer with disks off in a data center run by the major provider. THEY do their own Towers Of Hanoi backups of their disk farm (that is likely also not just simple disks but some kind of advanced mass storage system that itself included redundancy like mirroring or RAID or more…) with their own retention intervals.

    You might well destroy all your backup copies, but you didn’t at all touch the Cloud Provider copies, nor the “trashcan” on their giant mass storage device…

    Are there ways to beat this?

    Yes, but they generally require you plan in advance…

    For example:

    When working on client sites and IFF I have things I do not want kept on their systems or backups, I’ll assure those files only live on a removable media. Typically an SD card in an SD slot or a USB adapter. They don’t go on the local disk, and never onto the “file server”.

    When leaving, I’ll not just delete things on the local disk on “my” computer, I’ll then make multiple copies of “something” until the disk is full (assuring I’ve overwritten the “free list” space). IFF really worried, then you delete all the junk you just wrote and do it again. That process is what software like Bleachbit does. You, too, can do it manually. I usually make copies of the Microsoft Software into some folders, then start making multiple copies of those into each other exponentially growing the Copy A To B then Copy B To A size until the disk is full…

    In that way “my personal stuff” was never on the disk when it was backed up (as it was on an SD card in my pocket at night when backups run and typically removable media isn’t backed up anyway) and anything that I DID put on the local disk is removed and unrecoverable from that disk even if it did end up in the backups. (This mostly just prevents the next contractor who gets my computer from digging around looking for interesting things… but does not prevent the I.T. department from recovering the things that were on my local disk from their backups).

    Now, in addition to all that…

    For things like tweets and email, they pass through many servers. Each and every one of those has retention requirements and your message may or may not end up on some retained media. For corporations in the USA the law requires 5 years (lawyers and some others have 7 IIRC). Government has their own rules too. It is for this reason that encrypted email is essential if you want ANY privacy at all. Almost nobody uses encrypted email (even me) but we all ought to.

    So for recovery of email and tweets and IMs, it may well be on a tape made by some telco somewhere or some cloud provider that ‘got a copy” in transit…

    Realize this is only a broad brush listing. I’ve not covered it all, just the most obvious parts.

    That folks think they can delete things already sent or on social media is just stupid. The only way to do that is to have your own server where you control the backups (like Hillary did…) but even then, IF any copy was sent to anyone NOT on that server, then all the above retention bits apply to that message…

  50. jim2 says:

    We have record retention dates. After that date, it’s gone forever.

  51. Maybe the interesting data that would turn up from the search is exactly when the data actually got deleted from the main files. Maybe even have a clue as to who did the deletions….

  52. philjourdan says:

    @Simon – the “who” depends upon the file system, but most do have who did it. The “when” is there as well – unless it was over written many times (then just recovering the file is arduous, but possible).

  53. Larry Ledwick says:

    If this is true, explains a lot – also suggests some FBI folks should be going to jail if the justice system works the way it is supposed to.


  54. E.M.Smith says:


    Also, insider trading makes a great leap forward with SEC hack of Edgar docs filing system.

    Nothing like getting your early stock tips straight from the SEC filings before public disclosure…


  55. Glenn999 says:

    There’s an interesting/fun thread at AT talking about the need for a New Name for the “main stream media”. The author is suggesting the “Democratic Media Industrial Complex” or DMIC. Some like lamestream media, or yellowstream media with its urinalists, etc, etc.
    Any ideas from the genius’s at work here???

  56. Larry Ledwick says:

    I vote for drop the M and just make it DIC’s (Democratic Information Complex)

  57. jim2 says:

    To my way of thinking, there is an implication here that it’s OK to track US citizens, but if the aim it to catch illegal aliens, then it’s an abrogation of “what America stands for!”

  58. Zeke says:

    Julian Assange says, “Q’ for UK to answer is why does it refuse to deny the existence of a US extradition request and fight tooth & nail to keep its emails with the US on the subject secret”
    –I hope Mr. Assange is enjoying life. Get the man a computer.

    Q text for those of us who would not navigate 8 chan well:

    Q anon has questions. .

  59. E.M.Smith says:


    I have some experience with that spooky stuff…

    In Florida, I’d gone out of my way to buy a Toll Pass e-gizmo for cash at a drug store for use in the banana boat. Then only used the toll way “judiciously” i.e. not my daily commute. Still, at a renewal point, a letter showed up at the home where I was renting a room (also for cash) addressed to the owner…. listing my car and suggesting that a new reader be funded on his already existing account (and including a new e-gizmo “upgrade” device…)

    I figure the letter used the DMV records that listed that address as the address for the registration of the car. ( They would not accept my “P.O.Box”) BUT, they used his name and account details not mine which was on the registration… (Florida is “not so bright” some times…)

    Oh Well…

    It is still possible to “dirty the data” but it takes a bit more indirection… Lessons Learned for next time…

    (Near as I can tell, nobody ever got my actual physical residence address. Paid cash to the owner, used the PO box for everything, except the DMV pills, and never used the coach address anywhere. I’ll do better next time, but this was “good enough”)

    Still, even with high effort, it is very very hard to avoid being tracked.

  60. Zeke says:

    CBTS Stream

    Q anon with analysis. There are a lot of channels deciphering.

  61. Larry Ledwick says:

    Germany is starting to see public demonstrations against migrant violence.
    We are at the turning point is several European countries now. The next year or two will tell how this situation develops int he long run.


    July 8. A hundred Islamists are now openly enforcing Sharia law on the streets of Berlin, according to local police. The self-appointed morality police involve Salafists from Chechnya, a predominantly Sunni Muslim region in Russia.


  62. jim2 says:

    LL said: “We are at the turning point is several European countries now.”

    I hope it gets so bad the EU will disband.

  63. jim2 says:

    EMS: Your Florida experience is cree-ee-ee-ee-ee-py!

  64. E.M.Smith says:



    Near as I can figure, they have a license plate reader (used if you don’t have a transponder OR it fails to check in OR you forgot to put it in the car OR… ) and created a cross record with the transponders. I got one of the ones you can move between vehicles, and have done so. Paid cash and anonymous from the drug store. Yet to register my car, I had to have a ‘real’ address. My friend let me use his (which was reasonable as I sometimes rented a room from him). Now all of HIS cars are also registered at his address…

    So somewhere along the line they decided that despite my car being in my name, he had a tollway account open, and they sent him a “replacement” transponder (linked to his account)… BUT with my car license plate listed on the wrapper…

    Now you can figure either it’s very creepy smart and they figured out everything, OR, that they just made a stupid error and didn’t notice the name on the B.B. Registration was different from his name and that maybe different unrelated folks could live at the same location… i.e. just a stupid screwup…

    On another count, if you are in an RV park you can file to get your mail there, but that fingers you as to where you physically are located as you must turn in to the Feds ID paperwork. But you can get a Box at a mail service instead… with the same paperwork… but now where do you point it? To an RV park where you may move away (and are then legally on the hook for new ID paperwork) or what? It is legally mandated that you MUST be fingered as to exactly who you are and where your physical home is located, even if you don’t have a physical home… (like, oh, staying in hotels for 18 months on contract…) I found a way to make it work… but I’m not going to spill it here ;–)

    Furthermore, if you get an IP phone, they want your ID / location information too. I managed to bypass about 1/2 of that (real location) but not the real ID part. (For that I had to go to a burner cell phone). Why was I doing all that? Curious as to how hard it was, and how to pierce the veil if I was ever tasked to find someone…

    THE biggest problem is that you must NEVER EVER link any of the anonymous stuff to anything that identifies you at all. “All or nothing”. So use the burner phone number on a credit card, or on your resume, it’s now linked somewhere… Call the same folks a lot, that connects you as well.

    So it’s possible to be quasi private, but takes a lot of work and care.

  65. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry L:

    And folks call me paranoid about never ever putting stuff on line if it doesn’t need to be on line…

    No “fitbit”. No phone on the Internet ( use a dumb cell phone ). No “smart crapola” devices. Rotating computers and OS type etc used when I do go onto the internet…

    It’s very clear that there’s hundreds of $Billions on the hook on the other side where they are trying to squeeze every bit of identity and behaviour data they can out of you. On your side is only you.

    So yeah, my car has no tech that talks to anyone outside the car. I don’t do internet stuff on my phone. My tablet connects via public wifi spigots. Etc. etc. Even then, too much information leaks.

    This will only get worse. It is ever harder to get “stupid cars” and devices that STFU. Thus my statement that I’ll likely make my next cell phone when this one dies. Having things like physical switches on the power leads, speaker and microphone, etc. etc.

  66. Another Ian says:

    “Look! Over there! A squirrel”

    ““Atmosphere Cancer” – The Latest Name for Global Warming”


    Updated names list at the start of the thread

  67. Larry Ledwick says:

    On the international front this showed up on twitter this morning.

    Makes you wonder what the back story is.
    Did we deploy one of those on board laser systems and burn down some of their boats quietly ?
    Did we change rules of engagement or send a message to Iran that that sort of harassment would no longer be tolerated and our ships were authorized to use any means necessary to take out swarm boats?
    Did a seal team go in and take out a bunch of their assets?

    Smells to me like something happened behind the curtain on this one. That sort of long running program just does not stop for no reason.

  68. E.M.Smith says:


    I’d not put it past old Golden Hair to have sent a polite message to The Ol’ Atollah that included a copy of his order to the Fleet: “Shoot and sink any boat inside 1 km that fails to heed ONE warning. Do not warn again on subsequent events from the same agents. Don’t bother asking the chain of command for permission. Signed: Commander IN CHIEF.”

    It’s what I’d do…

  69. Larry Ledwick says:

    I agree although I suspect the memo would have been signed by General Mattis or his chain of command. President Trump has turned Tactical command decisions over to the military. He doesn’t want to be bothered with those decisions that they are trained to make. He has given them “commanders intent” messages and told them to go do their jobs.

    General Mattis being from the Marines, almost certainly at some point in his career had a close association or assignment to a ship board Marine security detachment. He most assuredly has a very dim view of the capture and retention of the Navy small boats a while back in the Persian Gulf.

    I have absolutely no doubt he have ship board commanders instructions to put an end to such behavior if their actions created unsafe steaming conditions for the ships and their crew.

    Given two US Navy commanders have just been relieved of command recently for collisions at sea resulting in death of crew members that will feature strongly in the ship board decision cycle.

    I suspect someone somewhere got confronted by a boat swarm and sunk all but one boat to send a message.

    CIWS (Sea Wiz) and mark 38 25mm chain gun and M2HB .50 cal makes short work of a fast boat.

    ship defense training

    ship defense training live fire

  70. Larry Ledwick says:

    On the bug squashing front – seems Intel informed its Chinese business partners before it told the US government of the meltdown and spectre flaws —- Hmmmmm how interesting.


  71. Another Ian says:

    “What are, in fact, the grounds for concern about global warming?”

    Javier – “This is an answer to the Geological Society of London position statement on “Climate Change: evidence from the geological record,” published in November 2010, and the addendum published in December 2013.”


  72. Larry Ledwick says:

    Boy these voice activated assistants and AI are starting to reveal all sorts of unintended consequences.


  73. Another Ian says:

    The Nunes Memo and the Horowitz Report: Popcorn Edition 1

    An excellent 11 page summary by Ross McKitrick, download it at the link above. (pdf)


  74. beththeserf says:

    WoW,! Just watched President Trump’s Address to the Nation!
    Showed the steel in the spine up close and individual …’ it’s
    the people’ making America great again.’ Such a different
    message from Democrat politics of resentment and top-down
    dependency messaging.

  75. jim2 says:

    MAGA! (M Australia GA! also)

  76. beththeserf says:

    If we could also have a genuine political choice, jim2, i think a majority
    of Oz serfs would take the deregulation path to MAGA.

  77. David A says:

    Trump triumphed tonight.

    The democrats diminished.
    Soon they will be gone. Gone where you ask…

    The democratic party, with Hillary and the 0 leading, all walked into a bar, they then stumbled into another bar, they turned and lurched into yet one more bar. That is when it dawned on all of them; they were in prison!

  78. Larry Ledwick says:

    Surface vessel laser systems in the US Navy are now about to become operational. An initial contract has been issued for 2 prototype systems to be installed on an operational Arleigh Burke destroyer (USS Arleigh Burke DDG-51) following successful testing aboard the USS Ponce.


  79. Another Ian says:

    “Up The Workers! said in reply to underminder…

    Too true, underminder.

    The title:


    is an anagram for:


    Fair Dinkum!”


  80. E.M.Smith says:

    I know I got to it late ( getting my Subaru serviced…) but I’m right now watching the SOTU on C-SPAN / Youtube.

    Sooooo many dismal and depressed Democrats listening to such good news! OMG the dismal look on the Black CongressCritters faces as they heard “THE lowest black unemployment in history” and just what’s up with Pelosi? Looks like she has loose dentures or something stuck in her teeth along with a mouth full of lemon juice!

    And Trump! Lite up at last as a decent speaker. Both presidential AND clear and in your face pro-Joe and pro-Jane American.

    If he can keep this up for 3 more years, the Democrats will be toast.

  81. beththeserf says:

    I’m temperarily chuffed
    re President Trump’s
    State of the Union Speech
    accentu-ating the positive.
    A song! Dancin’ cheek ter cheek.)

    Click to access nunesmemo.pdf

  82. beththeserf says:

    OOps! I put a nickle in the telephone … wrong number.
    Serfs! Backtrack…

  83. beththeserf says:

    Sorry E.M. Herewith…

  84. Larry Ledwick says:

    Is this a teaser of what will be in the Memo?
    Reports that the Obama administration itself was leaking info to the media on Trump prior to the inauguration and after the election to delegitimize the new administration.


    One question is why release the Memo now, traditionally you release news you don’t want to make a splash in the media late in the week, ideally at/after 4:00 pm Washington DC time, and break the news in the morning news cycle on Monday if you want it to get traction.

    With that in mind, I would not be surprised if the administration will let the debate rage until Monday on some pretext, and not formerly release it until then, but only after a weekend shaping campaign and building interest.

  85. Larry Ledwick says:

    Supposed to be satire but uncomfortably close to an editorial.


  86. Another Ian says:

    Another wizard hunt

    “JCU bans Prof Peter Ridd from criticizing scientific institutions. Defiant, he refuses, fights on!”


    International recognition too. WUWT and GWPF that I’ve seen so far. But probably not what they had in mind.

  87. jim2 says:

    The Steele dossier, the PI report and the news story “all seem like independent corroborating evidence” but Republicans now believe they were “the fruits of a single politically poisoned tree planted by Clinton partisans,” said a source familiar with concerns that are raised in the House Republican Intelligence panel memo.

    “Rather than quality double-sourced intelligence, it is our conclusion it was nothing more than thinly veiled, single-sourced political opposition research masquerading as intel,” the source said.


  88. Another Ian says:

    Pointman on the shutdown

    “I’ve simply never seen such an exercise in ineptness by supposedly seasoned politicians. ”


  89. jim2 says:

    What a great headline! :)

    “Media’s longtime crusade for transparency ends with Nunes memo as ‘The Post’ remains in theaters”


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  91. Larry Ledwick says:

    Unrelated to Memos and such – some nifty technology reveals that Mayan civilization was much larger than currently believed.


  92. p.g.sharrow says:

    Larry, It may be even stranger then that. It appears to me, Barack’s mother is the Kenyan “aunt” that he protects and his father is SUBUD cult founder Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo of Indonesia. His American “mother” was a member of that cult as was the Hawaiian Registrar of birth records . An important money making business of SUBUD was creating American birth papers. Barack’s American “grand mother” called him “that African child” and his Kenyan grand mother insists she was at his birth in Kenya. Only a DNA test would prove his American connection. Barack looks nothing like his African “father” but is the spitting image of the Indonesian…pg

  93. jim2 says:

    Nice summary of the YSM reactions after the SOTU address. Good for a chuckle, but also shows how reckless the Dimorats are at picking bed fellows. Specifically, this lowlife that makes a living off gossip, Michael Wolff.

    “Trump’s SOTU speech gets strong public support, journalists still hate him, and other outrageous media fiascos”


  94. jim2 says:

    Some of the comment on the SOTU article are pretty good, like this one …

    “Hillary went outside yesterday, saw her shadow and realized there will be 7 more years of trump”

  95. A C Osborn says:

    Larry Ledwick says: 3 February 2018 at 1:13 am
    Hmmm this is interesting if it is true!

    Very interesting, Obama no longer has the protection from when he was President, he could be in big trouble if the right people go after him.

  96. jim2 says:

    “The Starr County Elections Department found that a ballot application submitted by Lozano-Pelayo was for a voter who had previously died, yet remained on the voter registration rolls.

    The timing of the alleged fraudulent ballot application could not have been worse for the defendant. A new law passed by the Texas Legislature (SB5) became effective on December 1, 2017. That new law makes the filing of a fraudulent ballot application a state jail felony.”


  97. E.M.Smith says:


    Saw a ‘crawler’ about that on news this morning but didn’t have time to follow it. Thanks for the link!

  98. Larry Ledwick says:

    That whole subject raises some interesting unasked questions:

    If the political landscape shifted enough to allow it to be discussed in the open, AND some incontrovertible proof was revealed that Obama was:

    a) never an eligible candidate for President under constitutional guidelines.
    b) was elected through provable election manipulation and was in fact not legally elected
    c) a shill candidate for some power center (nation state or non-nation state)

    What would be the legal consequences of those findings?

    Would that invalidate every single presidential decision he ever made, including official appointments? Would it invalidate every law he signed under the color of Presidential Authority?

    Would he be open for criminal prosecution for crimes tied to those irregularities?

    Would the powers that be have the balls to actually attempt to bring charges and indictments?

    I personally suspect that his election will be debated in investigation books much like the Lincoln assassination for the next 100 years, and will go down in history as a tainted administration but I doubt any concrete action will be taken against him or his upper level staff (cough Valarie Jarrett cough)

    I am certain that there is a skunk in the wood pile but am not sure what it is. The blatant and oppressive secrecy efforts to lock down all his past just screams “look under this rock” but the list of transgressions that might trigger that sort of secrecy is very long and I am sure I don’t have a good enough imagination to think of all the possible skeletons in closet to guess them all.

    His vulnerability which causes that oppressive secrecy may or may not be his actual citizenship or place of birth there are other possible scenarios which if exposed during the election cycle would have made him unelectable, but too many people wanted to have him succeed to satisfy many different agendas. Those range from the women who were infatuated with his smooth style, glib and charming presentation and smile, to far more nefarious motives and agendas.

  99. Larry Ledwick says:

    Space-X heavy’s first test launch (Feb 6) will put a Tesla car into orbit around the sun (if it is a successful launch). The orbit will be highly eccentric with apogee near the orbit of mars.



  100. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting article on the existence of a bureaucratic deep state in governments.


    Reminds me of a book I got a long time ago about who really runs the government, it is the senior entrenched bureaucracy who just keeps going and makes the minimum modifications that they must to accommodate new programs or shifts in leadership objectives. They just tweak things a bit and say they have complied, or let things fail and then say I told you so.

  101. Another Ian says:


    Also a long time ago IIRC it was pointed out that in your system the bums on seats stopped changing after a presidential election around the fourth layer down.

    Our public service appointments were supposed to be more apolitical but that was long ago

  102. Larry Ledwick says:

    Different subject here – we have talked on occasion where the black community is with regard to high tech aircraft, and their black program developments.

    Lockheed is exposing one of its toys (not sure why or toward what agenda) but this usually means something is about to become public in a manner that cannot be obfuscated by cover stories etc.


    This could be something as simple as a marketing move to inflate interest in their stock and to get press time for their product lines or a veiled memo to foreign interests of what capabilities are under development or perhaps even operational.

    I see a little similarity here to the Grumman X-47b Unmanned Combat Vehicle demonstrator and the Boeing MQ-25 tanker projects. As I understand it Lockheed is making a major push to win the Navy autonomous air tanker contract.


  103. Larry Ledwick says:

    Possible evidence of trillions of exoplanets outside our galaxy.


  104. Larry Ledwick says:

    It is sad that so many people told they this would happen and they were too blind to see this coming.

    View at Medium.com

    Pinned Tweet
    Voice of Europe
    8 hours ago
    Swedish police in Malmö now armed with machine guns to take back control


    Voice of Europe
    15 minutes ago
    Another big anti-immigration protest in Germany tonight. It was organised by Pegida in Dresden

  105. Glenn999 says:

    stock market down because mainstreet economy is improving…..hmmmmmm

    “”Stocks have lost steam with investors refocusing on the potential for faster inflation growth. Job gains in January fueled those concerns, turning a spotlight on the Federal Reserve and its timeline for interest rate hikes. A stronger-than-expected gain of 200,000 U.S. jobs was seen as raising the odds that the central bank will increase its benchmark rate in March. The report also offered more evidence that the U.S. economy is gaining strength with wages climbing at their strongest pace since 2009.

    A period of higher interest rates and stronger inflation would create a stark contrast to recent years, when accommodative monetary policies—headlined by near-zero interest rates—helped support the U.S. economy and equities.

    But the business climate will remain a positive for the stock market after Monday’s selloff, according to Bob Doll, chief equity strategist at Nuveen Asset Management.””

  106. jim2 says:

    I hope Trump can root out the bad apples like this one:

    “Josh Campbell penned a New York Times Op-Ed on Friday, claiming he was leaving the FBI because of “relentless attacks on the bureau,” but on Monday he proved his column was disingenuous by quickly signing with CNN.”


  107. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting little tidbit on immigrants sending money home to foreign countries (private foreign aid as it were)

    Stefan Molyneux
    11 minutes ago
    “Records from The World Bank show that migrants residing in the U.S. sent a staggering $138,165,000,000 (USD) to family members in their home countries in 2016.”

  108. Larry Ledwick says:

    The Senators’ criminal referral of Steele has been released – would love to see the info in the redacted sections.


  109. Larry Ledwick says:

    Crap embedded parens in the link try this:
    Steele Referral link

  110. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry: I think it might be the dot what got you. See:


    The URL Period Problem

    Folks will regularly post a URL with “…” in it somewhere. For unknown reasons, some places like to put ‘dots’ in their URLs. WordPress, to help folks who post a URL at the end of a sentence and end it with a period, takes that first ‘dot’ to be ‘end of sentence’ and then the rest of the URL becomes plain text. As that doesn’t work as a URL that’s “not helping”…

    To “fix it”, just remember to replace any “dots” in a URL with the Unicode for “full stop” that we saw above:

    & #046;

    Yup. Put in an &-hash-046; instead of the period and that fixed it…

  111. A C Osborn says:

    EM, Re
    Glenn999 says: 6 February 2018 at 12:11 am

    Is the Run on the US Stock Market a Soros & co backed attempt to destabilise the US in a bid to discredit President Trump?
    If it is, it will likely be followed by a run on the $, he has history of such actions.

  112. A C Osborn says:

    Larry Ledwick says: 6 February 2018 at 4:01 am

    We have the same problem in the UK, they tell us that they are “good” for the economy, except the money doesn’t stay in the country, it is lost to be spent elsewhere.

  113. E.M.Smith says:

    @A C Osborn:

    It isn’t a “run’. it isn’t even a classical 10% correction yet. It’s mostly noted because there are a large number of (fictional) DOW points dropped. It’s still a nearly trivial percentage.

    I have been amused this morning as all the Financial Talking Heads expound on the “sentiments of investors” and “why people are…”

    The reality is that something over 75% of regular daily stock volume and over that during flash events (pushing 100%) is computer driven trading. Anyone who does not start their explanation with “The Computer Algorithm did…” has already missed the boat.

    What has happened is that The Fed has slightly raised interest rates. This biases the computers to expect rising rates which implies dropping stocks. Then some news hits and the word recognition ASSUMES it will cause some kind of price drop. Can be a poor profit report, reduced sales, or news of a change of Fed Leadership (what we just had…). So the computers sell some, which causes some price drop, which causes them to sell more, which causes….

    The basic problem is a positive feedback loop between several divergent computerized high speed trading computer systems stimulated by automated news reading.

    But Wait There’s More!

    This, then, causes folks like me to step back from The Game reducing the volume of “Real Trades” and the real traders behind them. I now almost entirely just trade large index ETFs just to reduce the individual and sector stock risks (exacerbated by the computer news readers dumping $Millions of share value per second…).

    Essentially, the stock market today is just a large automated video game played by competing computers and with a very few people trying to interact around the edges. Add that several critical consumer protections were removed over the last few decades (like the “uptick rule”) and it’s just not a human friendly nor human driven space.

    Soros is relatively small in stock market value size. I doubt he’s involved. The big drivers are major companies like Goldman Sachs.

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