W.O.O.D. – 25 May 2018

Intro

This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2018/05/09/w-o-o-d-9-may-2018/
and remains open for threads running there
(at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/category/w-o-o-d/

So use “Tips” for “Oooh, look at the interesting ponder thing!”
and “W.O.O.D” for “Did you see what just happened?! What did you think about it?”

What’s Going On?

Memorial Day Weekend in the USA

Take some time to remember the fallen. Party once you are ready.

Weather

Continuing cold, snow in the Sierra Nevada. Florida about to get an almost-a-hurricane.

Iran & N. Korea

Both continuing to fester. The on again off again with North Korea is presently off. If the Little Rocket Man thinks he can toss a tantrum and Trump will pop $Billion to buy some “legacy”, he’s sorely mistaken (and will be more sorely somewhere else…)

The Swamp

Oh So Slowly it’s dawning on folks that the Obama & Clinton Machine has fabricated all The Russia Crap. May swamp draining pick up speed.

Looking forward to that Orange Pantsuit Day…

I note in passing that Obama is taking a page from the Clinton Money Grubbing Machine and booked a gig at Netflix for something like $125 Million an undisclosed amount and 125 million audience. Any bets on it avoiding tossing dirt at Trump?

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About E.M.Smith

A technical managerial sort interested in things from Stonehenge to computer science. My present "hot buttons' are the mythology of Climate Change and ancient metrology; but things change...
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190 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 25 May 2018

  1. H.R. says:

    The Netflix deal was for $125 million?!? I guess crime does pay.

    I figure Netflix only has a couple of $million in the pot and the rest is being provided by unnamed globalists for prior services rendered.

    It’s the same type of kickback-hiding used when a public figure gets an eight figure advance on a straight-to-the-Dollar-Store book that was ghostwritten by some party hack who needed a few crumbs thrown their way.

  2. Serioso says:

    Here’s a terrific piece from the New Yorker magazine on the inherent conflict betweem democracy and capitalism. I think the Chief will enjoy it particularly — it confirms many of his own views.
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/05/14/is-capitalism-a-threat-to-democracy

  3. pouncer says:

    Hi Serioso,
    I read the piece you linked and can’t say that I recognize either its terrific qualities or the commonality it may have with Our Host’s expressed views of markets, Greedy Bastards, and Keynesianism. Can you please elaborate or highlight bits you thought particularly pertinent?

  4. H.R. says:

    @Serioso: I followed that link and found a serious error right under the head photo.

    “A new book blames authoritarianism on politicians entranced by the free market.”

    With all the legislative, regulatory, and tax jiggery-pokery in the U.S., the evidence seems to point to our politicians doing everything in their power to suppress free markets, and reward rent seekers proportionately to their campaign contributions or other monetary consideration.

    I’m going to forego reading the book if “politicians entranced by the free market” is indeed the underlying premise. There’s lot’s of reading material out there that provides better, gut busting belly laughs.

  5. jim2 says:

    Why, politicians love a free market. They are for sell to the highest bidder.

    So, a rich person researches politicians or candidates. Interviews them and decides which align with his desire for unfettered immigration. If the politician in question is in Congress, there is an interesting dynamic. Congress Critters that bring in the most money get the most powerful positions on Committees and even positions like Speaker of the House. So, basically the rich decide who wields power in Congress.

    Free market – politicians love it!

    And that’s why controlling illegal immigration is so difficult. And, of course there are special laws that actually create business models.

    Sux for the rest of us.

  6. E.M.Smith says:

    I thought it was $125 M that I’d heard on the news, but looking for confirmation I found this:
    http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/21/media/barack-michelle-obama-netflix-deal/index.html

    Financial terms were not disclosed. The Obamas are giving Netflix valuable content that many of the streaming service’s 125 million members may want to watch. And Netflix is giving the Obamas a valuable platform to stay visible in their post-White House years.

    So now I’m not sure if I got it wrong, or if the news got it wrong…

  7. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, part way into the article in the New Yorker and there’s already 2 egregious errors.

    In his own contribution to the book, he argued that fascism strips democratic politics away from human society so that “only economic life remains,” a skeleton without flesh.

    Unfortunately, no. Fascism explicitly is all about injecting politics into economics. The “Fasci” it was named after were Trade Unions. The basic notion of Fascism is that the Workers needed a seat at the management table along with Government. There were management boards of a sort set up where the Unions, Management & Government collectively made decisions about how a company was to behave, be managed, or be merged. It was ALL about injecting more political control into capitalism.

    Then further down it makes the typical Stalinist Lie of calling it “Right Wing”. It isn’t. It is Communism Lite with a Nationalist overlay. AKA National Socialism (as in Germany’s National Socialism that also big on Workers Rights, Unions, Labor participation in management, and Government Regulation / Control). Stalin is the one who called the Nazis “right wing” as they were to the right of INTERnational Socialism AKA Communism. (Barely…) Socialists have leveraged that lie ever since.

    While I do agree that rampant Free Markets tend to result in injustices that cause all sorts of social ills, so some degree of Regulation is needed; I think it needs to be lightest regulation that prevents the ills, and certainly not beyond what we had in the USA in about the 1960s. The “Mixed Economy”. (And I could make a case it was already too high then…) Regulation that promotes one view of what is “good” over another tend to lead to Crony Capitalism mixed with Socialism Giveaway failure.

    Then this is a laugh:

    Since the demise of the Soviet Union, Kuttner contends, America’s Democrats, Britain’s Labour Party, and many of Europe’s social democrats have consistently tacked rightward, relinquishing concern for ordinary workers and embracing the power of markets; they have sided with corporations and investors so many times that, by now, workers no longer feel represented by them.

    A very imaginative re-interpretation of reality into fantasy. The reality is that the West has been frog marching into ever more Socialism and it accelerated with the flood of Eastern Block folks into the West. However, with Soviet International Socialism on the rocks, they decided to try a bit more Socialism Lite and brushed off the old “3rd Way Socialism” (also called Market Socialism) of Fascist Italy. (It was Mussolini who named it “3rd Way” socialism and invented the term). They have ever since proceeded to use rampant OVER Regulation to break markets and make them MORE political. (See internalizing the “social cost of carbon” as a prime example).

    Written like a True Socialist Party Member, it includes bits like this:

    in the system’s final years, it hardened national borders instead of opening them, and engendered what Polanyi called a “new crustacean type of nation,” which turned away from international trade, making first one world war, and then another, inevitable.

    Um, no again. It was not failure to have open borders that caused W.W.I nor W.W.II. It was the attempt to overturn an entrenched Aristocracy that lead to things like the Russian Revolution and the clash of Empires lead to the interlocking agreements to mutual defense. The roots of W.W.I reach back to The Great Game conflicts of Russia and the British Empire and drag in German resentment at the colonial power of the UK and France (and Portugal and Spain…) W.W.II rose directly out of the resentment of the cruel ending of W.W.I (one could make the case W.W.I never really ended, it just took a pause for Germany to re-arm). It was greed and corruption, not markets and trade, that was the root cause. What we today would call “rigged markets” or “Crony Capitalism” but where the Cronies are the Aristocracy of the Empires.

    Then there are things that are just painfully stupid:

    With investors unable to yank money suddenly from one country to another, governments were free to spur growth with low interest rates and to spend on social programs without fear that inflation-averse capitalists would sell off their nations’ bonds. So weak was the political power of investors that France, Britain, and America let inflation shrink the value of their war debts considerably. In France, the economist Thomas Piketty has quipped, the period amounted to “capitalism without capitalists.”

    Like that’s worked so well in Venezuela… There’s a reason investors fear governments on crazy spending sprees: The value of the money rapidly drops to zero followed by the value of everything else as the economy implodes. See Greece (a few times), and a long list of hyperinflations globally. then “investors” let debts sink? No, politicians ruining the currency CAUSE it.

    Then all this wonderful ability to spend on social freebees was supposedly the cause of the post war boom?

    The result—highly inconvenient for free-market fundamentalists—was prosperity. In the three decades following the Second World War, per-capita output grew faster in Western Europe and North America than ever before or since.

    Nothing about needing to massively rebuild a continent? Nothing about the incredible changes in technology between 1914 and 1950? Nothing about bringing a huge influx of labor into the mix (women in the workplace)? Nothing about getting the destructive National Socialism off the neck of the World? Nothing about turning all the productive capacity to productive goods and away from armaments? Sheesh. All due to that spending on “social programs”… Incredible.

    The author then wanders through more pseudo-economics and imaginative quasi-history docu-drama that in usual New Yorker style does not require you to think too much, but uses 10 words to embellish a non-thought were 2 would do nicely.. After some slams at Trump we have:

    “Basically there are two solutions,” Polanyi wrote in 1935. “The extension of the democratic principle from politics to economics, or the abolition of the democratic ‘political sphere’ altogether.” In other words, socialism or fascism.

    Again: Um, NO!

    That’s saying your choices are International Socialism or National Socialism. Hardly. There’s Lange Type Socialism, Regulated “Mixed Economy” Capitalism, and a few more. Setting up a false range and a false dichotomy is just game playing or ignorance. On a spectrum with unregulated Laisses Faire Capitalism on once side and all the Socialisms on the other side, there is a large “sliding scale” of “markets with regulation” in the middle. The “Mixed Economy”.

    Then we get into the “prescription” phase, and it’s right out of the Socialism Playbook:

    When negotiating trade deals, for instance, governments could make going to bat for multinationals conditional on their agreeing to, say, pay their workers a higher fraction of what they pay executives.

    Failing that, we’d be better off with redistributive programs that are universal—parental leave, national health care—rather than targeted. Benefits available to everyone help people without making them feel like charity cases.

    And on and on…

    Nonetheless, programs like Social Security and Medicare, instituted when a communitarian ethic was still strong in American politics, remain popular. Why not try for more? It might make sense even if the numbers don’t add up.

    How about because they have already bankrupted the nation (we just have not hit the final wall yet) and we are about $20 TRILLION in debt with some hundreds of $TRILLIONS of unfunded mandates and crap hanging out there in the future. MORE of that? Hello Venezuela…

    While an interesting read (mostly for how badly some folks can fail to grasp fundamental necessities of economic production and have incredibly muddled views of history) the notion this confirms my views is quite wrong. It is a special pleading for more Socialism while my views are we’ve got too much already and need to back off to a regulatory framework more like 60 years ago. Stop Government Mandates and let FREE but minimallyregulated markets work. (Things like NOT mandating ALL gasoline have ethanol in it. Gasohol was sold in the ’70s and I bought it for those cars that ran well on it.) Regulation ought to only prevent Bad Things not mandate someone’s idea of what’s better.

  8. jim2 says:

    I think Soros, who has a big chunk invested in NetF*cks, has given the Obamas and Susan Rice a source of easy money in case they need lawyers. Which I hope they do in the near future.

  9. Another Ian says:

    Jim2

    “Why, politicians love a free market. They are for sell to the highest bidder. ”

    Saying here is that “They believe in the “quid pro quo – more “quid” more “quo” ”

    Translating – a “quid” was a slang term for a (currency) pound – so a good expression now mostly ruined here by currency change to dollars

  10. Ralph B says:

    For the first time while opening your site I received a warning that this site is using cookies. This is while using my iPad which my kids use too. I don’t know if I picked something up on it…hard to believe you would use them. Unless your host snuck them in.

  11. llanfar says:

    @Ralph I got that too and assumed it was a WordPress push related to GDPR.

  12. H.R. says:

    @Ralph B & llanfar – I’m U.S. and don’t get that warning, so I think you are right, llanfar.

  13. jim2 says:

    Apparently the latest Star Wars offering isn’t much of one.

    “Solo also has its SJW moments. Who doesn’t love watching a five-foot girl who weighs in at about 85 pounds kicking the ass of a grown man? Then there is the feminist droid always harping about equal rights (thankfully, she is killed off quickly). Finally, we are hit with the news that the iconic Lando Calrissian is a “pansexual,” and there are a couple moments in Solo where you are given the impression that includes sex with feminist droids.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/05/26/go-woke-go-broke-solo-crash-lands-at-box-office/

  14. Larry Ledwick says:

    I have that warning banner (in the US) but GDPR is affecting everything not just Europe.
    I think it is also to meet a GDPR requirment. Their cookie policy is available on a link in the banner at:
    https://automattic.com/cookies

    It basically tells you that everything you do on this site is tracked in one way or another and using cookies that activity is tied to what you do on other websites – which is why I view wordpress all by itself in Brave browser, and do other browsing in other browser types / sessions so they cannot see each others cookies. I also set my browsers to clear cookies on closing and periodically close and restart the browser sessions to wipe out the cookie cache.

  15. pouncer says:

    Well, once again I’ve established for myself the proof that you can’t step into the same internet twice … Working from memory the point bears recapitulation:

    A week or so ago I saw an essay regarding Plessy vs Ferguson, the US Supreme Court case that established the doctrine of “Separate But Equal” later overturned with regard to school segregation. Plessy dealt with railroads rather than schools. And, according to the essay (Which I can no longer find, cite and link to despite my intense DogPile’ing) the case arose from the concerns of, and was largely funded by, the greedy capitalist railroad barons who OBJECTED to segregation.

    The legally imposed requirement of Segregation within Louisiana forced the railroads to run at least two passenger cars on every in-state route, one for “whites” and one for “colored”. The Supreme Court had already established that Congress had forbidden segregation in interstate commerce, and one, integrated, rail car crossing state lines was considered by the profit-driven railroad companies both efficient and sufficient. If two interstate carriages were necessary, both could be filled and integrated. It was also established that the market really didn’t exhibit strong preferences for segregation. Few if any interstate rail passengers objected to sharing a carriage among whites and blacks on the long, interstate, routes. In fact the railroad, though legally required to segregate, within the state typically ignored it unless and until some particular individual passenger in a particular carriage insisted. A whistle stop that carried a mix of customers traveling both within and across Louisiana borders would be integrated, and the customers did not boycott efficient, (cheap) rail lines providing such integrated service. Nevertheless the state enforcers could count carriages easily, and did, and imposed fines if the railroad did not at least roll “separate but equal” carriages each intra-state dispatch.

    As an aside, the “equal” part was intrinsic, since it would have been even more expensive for the railroad companies to maintain one exclusive set of carriages to a “white” luxury standard and another set to a lower “colored” economy standard. Any given carriage on any train could be dispatched with two nearly identical carriages, one for the “colored” (the term of the legislation of the time) and one for whites. Equal. By default.

    So, the greedy market profiteering railroad robber barons set out to challenge the state law. They found a “colored” plaintiff who was 7/8ths “white” and set him up to ride in the “white” car. They found / hired a “white passenger” to lodge a complaint with their conductor. They ordered their employee to apologize, “explain” the law to the “colored” passenger, and order him into the “colored” car. The 1/8th-colored passenger was instructed to refuse. The cops at the next stop were standing by primed to board, make an arrest, and enforce the law. And so everybody then went to court. And on and on to higher and higher courts.

    The railroad companies funded the whole process, anticipating that victory, (and integration) would be profitable for them. Profit, not justice, was the whole motive.

    The court decided, apparently on the basis of states’ rights and the 10th amendment rather than an abstract sense of fairness, that if a majority of Louisiana citizens wanted to pay unnecessary and extravagant and exorbitant fees for intra-state rail passage, or if their legislators wanted to grandstand and pontificate about purity and pass stupid restraint of trade laws, well, the US Constitution does not forbid stupidity. Plessy V Fergusson by 5-4 majority was the law of the land.
    It incidentally and accidentally established an idea encapsulated by the phrase “separate but equal”.

    Which over the course of the next century, public school districts came to embrace.

    NOW, school buildings are different from rail rolling stock. They are NOT interchangable day by day and a customer is not more or less randomly assigned to newer or older or safer or dilapated seats each use. Schools are pretty much long term. And very much not equal. So “Brown v Topeka” had a pretty high burden attempting to show the “equal” part, let alone win on the law and the idea of justice. And in ruling against Topeka (and intentionally in the later case) the Supreme Court threw out the whole idea of “Separate but Equal.” But the point is the districts did NOT fund this case. Whether or not it would have been more economical to run one integrated school house per district rather than two segregated schools, the district elected officials and voters chose to impose politically preferred policy. No matter the cost in money, the education provided, the safety of children, or abstract justice. The politicians voted for segregation.

    Recap. The will of the political people opposed equality and supported discrimination in Plessy while the greedy entrepreneaurs supported integration, cause it was better and nicer and PROFITABLE, and staged an expensive show to try and make that point (and boost their share holder dividends.) The will of the political people SUPPORTED discrimination and white privilege and expensive duplication and sub-standard treatment of second-class citizens in Brown, and spent boat loads of taxpayer money to continue this evil because the cost WASN’T COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKET.

    Socialism as a theory supposes that profit is evil and the will of the common people (as determined by the central committee) is virtuous. History is everywhere and always reality’s lesson in the reverse.

  16. E.M.Smith says:

    Folks will see lots more such warnings and advisories about data collected. WordPress (and ANY site using the advertising based revenue model) uses cookies. What changed was GPDR making it potentially a criminal act to do it in secret.

    @Jim2:

    There’s a couple of things going on. First off, there’s just the “bored writer copies the trend”. Part of how “social movements” happen. So one show has 2 girls kiss and it makes the news with spin on it about “courageous” and “groundbreaking” and “historical” and the next time a writer is stuck for something to make the plot interesting decides to stuff that in since clearly it got good press. Problem being they all do it at once and pretty soon it is “trite” and “formulaic”… not to mention boring as hell after the 8th time…

    Then there’s the pressure groups. All those trained up looking for action SJW Graduates from Art School who just MUST make a black Juliet or a homosexual NFL Linebacker. Or an 80 lb Asian woman who beats up 500 lb scaly aliens with fangs and claws… Got to show all the Special Categories are equal, right?

    Then there’s the big money Gobalists only willing to fund things that push The Agenda. So we end up with “Right Wing Terrorists” when the original book had Muslim Terrorists blowing up a nuke in the USA (and a far more realistic threat since Iran has said they want to do that).

    And on it goes…

    Eventually the general culture will either shift to wanting that fantasy, or get fed up with it and “move on”. Things tend to go in generational cycles. The “Gay 90s” (back when gay was a good word meaning happy) and the “Roaring 20s” cycling into the very conservative 50s and 60s. Eventually the “Free Love” generation will die and the grandkids who saw the damage it did grow up conservative and the cycle turns again…

    @Another Ian:

    “This for that” is about the closest free translation of the Latin in my opinion, then the English quid is a “something” that’s cash so you end up with “cash for something”…

  17. Bill S. says:

    If you are going to talk about N Korea – should you add the Congo?
    My trove of emergency preparedness junk has grown a lot because of this website – but I am still missing ideas for electricity generation. i.e. Why would one want to live through an Ebola outbreak if high temperatures and an electrical outage combine to ruin your wine stash?

  18. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry:

    Same effect, different method. Why I run on 3 or 4 platforms with 2 or 3 browsers each. Then periodically “move on” to new chips / systems and / or clear browser history. Makes for a constantly mutating “profile” fractured into 1/2 dozen+ “identities”.

    @Bill S:

    It’s an open discussion. Talk about what you want. Congo is still “ripening” in that so far it’s just started. Could be curbed into nothing with hyper aggressive medical policing. Could blow up into a global pandemic with a Billion dead if it escapes to multiple urban areas via air travel.

    I’ve got lots of stuff on emergency power generation. Start here:
    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/minimalist-emergency-power/
    then work your way up to:
    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/diy-power-and-load-leveling/
    if you have to go that far.

    I’d start with the $30 inverter plugged into your car and a long drop cord. Then get a Honda kW generator. Unless you need to run whole house AC that’s enough for most folks needs.

    @Pouncer:

    Nice story.

    BTW when I’ve “lost the thread”… I usually can pick it up again via the long history display. I’ll look for the nearest date, then scan the list of links. Often one will ‘pop’ as the particular article. If it doesn’t, I’ll re-open all the ones that are candidates (i.e. not the ones that are clearly something else) and do a linear search from before the date to after it. That takes time, but is usually effective.

  19. cdquarles says:

    @pouncer,

    I am going to tell a bit of a story about a woman, a man, and a boycott. You know the woman and you know the man; but you don’t know all of the story of the boycott.

    It is the 1950s in a state capital named Montgomery. The woman is akin to the person mentioned in the railroad story. She’s willing to be a force for change against the political powers that be. You know a man has been organizing protests against the mistreatment of people done by the political powers that be. The scene is scripted and plays out. The result is such that another man is impressed and he begins to help the other man behind the scenes. This man has the right skin color but he’s from a background where he and others like him have been wronged. He begins to make a name for himself and eventually seeks political office. He loses to the PTB, badly. He vows that he will never lose to that kind of campaign again. Everything he does now in public for political purposes is kabuki. To sway those sympathetic to the ‘old way’, he will play the part the way they want it played. He does not agree with the policy and knows that the policy will end, sooner or later, one funeral at a time. He also knows that’s really the best way to do it. Let it die out on its own persuading his fellow citizens without bringing in external force. Of course, the media will never get it right. They’ll play up the kabuki and never really get to know the man.

    How did I get to know this? I met a man who, along with the other man, did that work behind the scenes. He was an old man back then and we talked extensively. Eventually I met the politician. He was nothing like the media caricature of him.

    Now you know some of the rest of the story, that, sadly, will never be told properly. It is too late for that.

  20. H.R. says:

    Here’s a link to imgur of a sketch of the nose on Hull #1.
    I used red lines for the hull, but they don’t seem to show too well.
    https://imgur.com/a/262AoFR

    That’s going to be one interesting flat plan.

  21. cdquarles says:

    Y’all might get a kick out of this: https://youtu.be/EItka8KXeq0. Perusing my usual sites got me to thinking “Spy Games”, which triggered a memory of that 1979 Foreigner song.

  22. Glenn999 says:

    I don’t know if it’s my firefox, my adblockplus (wherever that came from), or my Kaspersky antivirus software, but I don’t see nothing popping anywhere anytime. Am I missing out on something fun?

  23. p.g.sharrow says:

    @HR. I see your transition is fairly simple. This shape should make a decent pontoon float. I fear that it will be a bear to pull or push through the water at any speed over about 6 mph. I would suggest a model test of that bow and keel shape before actual construction, if this is to be a boat shape. That bow will “Bulldoze” and make that deep keel even harder to turn…pg

  24. H.R. says:

    @p.g.: Thanks for the feedback. Maybe a 2″ keel and a slightly less steep nose angle of 35 or 45 degrees instead of 53?

    A 4″ keel seemed shallow to me, but I have zero experience with hull shapes. I know round pontoons have no keel that I’m aware of. Maybe I should just eliminate the keel. It would be much simpler to make.

    I intend to make prototypes from posterboard for the sheet, cardboard for the bulkheads, and various balsa strips for aluminum bracing, all sprayed with Flex-Seal to waterproof it. That also lets me test the flat plans before cutting any expensive sheet aluminum.

    The design targets are manufacturability, light weight, strength, and ease of assembly/disassembly of the pontoon modules and deck when transporting the unit.

  25. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    There are 2 very different cases. Power or sail.

    For Sail, you need something to act as your ‘underwater wing’ matching the giant one in the air above. But water being very dense it’s about 1/10 th the size. So a 40 foot mast sail gets a 4 foot ‘fin keel’ or a 1 foot length of hull shoal draft keel like mine. Look at Hobie cats. LOTS of sail for the size, and a deep narrow pontoon; some folks add a dagger board sort of thing.

    Then look at power pontoons going 6 knts. Often just the pontoon itself as keels.

    Lots of steering force from the motor, not much lateral force from the wind.

    So first off, decide your propulsion, then you know the keel required.

    So look back on the boats threads at the cats. Like that one the guy made from plywood. notice that he has a dagger board he can just drop down in the middle? That’ a common method. For Hobies, they have fairly narrow deep pontoons so usually don’t bother adding anything else. Note the rudders in the picture are raised, when lowered they add some lateral stability as well and are large enough to steer well:

    Personally, for a power craft, I’d not form a keel into the pontoon. I’d have a slot on each edge of the platform where I could add a dagger board if I needed it on a first design / test.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daggerboard

    For a round or square cross section power pontoon, I’d consider having a 4 inch full length keel, but would just as soon have a small fin added front / middle / rear / or at each. There’s lots of choice in where to put it. Fins and daggerboards have the problem that running up on sand or trailers is problematic (must lift daggarboard on approach to land…) so if your intent is to occasionally nose up to a sandbar and haul out (or just beach enough to let people off) I’d keep the keel design you have. Sturdy to grounding, adds enough tracking to avoid excessive leeway, no added parts to deal with (daggerboard, retractable fins).

    Long winded way of saying “It depends on what you want to do”.

    Oh, and pointy things like daggerboards, fin keels, etc. tend to hang up in weeds and crap more. A long blunt keel like your design (or my shoal draft boat) just ploughs on through… I had 27 inches of draft on a 27 foot boat, but only about 12 inches of it was keel, and that was about 12 x 12 of fiberglass filled with lead… ton or so I think…

    For a general purpose power pontoon boat that will see weeds and occasional beaching, I’d keep the blunt full length keel. I’d consider just making the pontoon 4 inches wide at the bottom and a truncated V shape with no distinct keel.

    There’s some discussion here you might like:

    http://www.pontoonhouseboatodyssey.com/Pontoon_Boats_101.html

    Note the almost no keel on their “no keel” design:

    https://www.suntrackerboats.com/construction/

    (One has a slight keel like shape to the nose and another shows a rail along the side of the pontoon that deflects water and would add some lateral stability at speed)

    While these folks note their “protective keel”… One of the key features being that a stumpy keel is stiff and more resistant to denting than a cylinder… or a flat face. Some folks just bolt or weld on a chunk of something (like angle aluminum) as protective sliding surface. Your formed U keel would do nicely, though I’d do something like fill it with at least foam to make it stiffer to rocks and logs.

    I could see foam fill and glued plywood or fiberglass over the foam to make it water tight.

    http://pontoon-boats.com/

    A Protective Keel Runs the Full Length

    Protective keel runs full length on tube bottom and leading edge of nose cone. It provides additional strength to the tube, protects against damage and aids in boat tracking.

    Nose Cone with Splash Guard

    Nose cone with integral splash guard eliminates the need for weld on fins that can bend or break. Robust design with leading edge keel.

    In short, you can do anything from no keel to lots of keel, round, 1/2 round, box, triangular, or exotic shaped pontoons, and be fine. Best use case changes some, but that’s about it.

  26. E.M.Smith says:

    Nice discussion of keel shapes on sail boats here. I’m thinking something like the leeboard as an add on IFF you needed more keel. But do note that even for these performance sailing ships, there isn’t that much keel. In particular, note the ‘full length keel’. It isn’t much, and that’s for a full on sail boat.
    http://www.nortonyachts.com/keel-shapes-types/

    Probably overkill, but a nice pdf article on how to design keels:

    https://www.ericwsponberg.com/wp-content/uploads/keel-and-rudder-design.pdf

    I’d take the 1 x 1 foot lead filled shoal draft on a 27 footer as a starting point for a shoal draft sailing cat. That was for a full on live aboard width of about 8 foot beam. Shrink that to a 1 foot wide pontoon, you are talking about 1/8 foot or about 1.5 inch as the minimum. That would argue for P.G.s notion of a 2 inch keel. So do I think it will matter if it is no keel, 2 inch box, 4 inch box, or what? Not really. Little more tendency to be blown sideways in wind vs more tendency to track straight and not want to turn fast when you see an obstacle. Knowing I could add on a leeboard or drop in daggar board, I’d err on the side of too little.

    UPDATE:

    Some nice photos of racing cats with daggerboards:

    https://www.proboat.com/2010/04/daggerboard-debate/

  27. E.M.Smith says:

    Current status of the Ebola outbreak. Not bad. Not all that good either, but not panic time.

    http://www.who.int/csr/don/23-may-2018-ebola-drc/en/

    WHO risk assessment

    Information about the extent of the outbreak is still limited and investigations are ongoing. The confirmed case in Mbandaka, a large urban centre located on major national and international rivers, roads and domestic air routes, increases the risk of spread within the Democratic Republic of the Congo and to neighbouring countries. WHO has, therefore, revised the assessment of public health risk to very high at the national level and high at the regional level. Nine neighbouring countries, including Congo-Brazzaville and Central African Republic, have been advised that they are at high risk of spread, and preparedness activities are being undertaken. At the global level the risk currently remains low. This risk assessment is continuously being review as further information becomes available.

    Based on the current situation and information available, the WHO Director-General convened an Emergency Committee under the International Health Regulations (IHR) (2005) on Friday 18 May to provide advice on whether the current outbreak constitutes a public heath event of international concern2. It was the view of the Committee that the conditions for a Public Health Emergency of International Concern have not currently been met.

    So they think they have a handle on it, but they know they are skating on thin ice and this could get away from them into a regional thing if they miss some folks. They have some new kit (the vaccines) and seem to be using it wisely. They know it could become an international Aw Shit, but it isn’t there yet and they are trying to prevent that.

    OK, bears watching but not a big worry just yet.

  28. jim2 says:

    So the Obama’s and Rice are running Netflix. Guess who wants to run Farcebook? Like a booger you can’t sling off your finger … it’s ….

    “Hillary Clinton would be prepared to swap life in politics to run social networking giant Facebook.”

    http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-wants-be-ceo-facebook-945739

  29. H.R. says:

    Thanks for the pontoon design links, E.M.!

    I’m considering the Tohatsu 3.5hp motor, so I doubt I’ll be chasing down any triple shaft cigarette boats. No sail, either, so I won’t be worrying about where to attach my bosun’s seat. 😜

    I figured I’d have a bulkhead where the nose transition starts and I would inject that nose partition with foam.

    Let’s see what the pontoon design boys have to say.

  30. E.M.Smith says:

    @Jim2:

    Oh GAK!…

    And running through my mind is “How can I miss you if you Won’t Go AWAY?!”

    @H.R.:

    At no sail, 3.5 hp, you really can have anything from no keel to modest keel. Your only design decision is “more or less drift sideways in a cross wind” vs “turn the motor a lot to get it to turn the boat”. At that design point, I’d only have enough keel to prevent rocks denting the body of the pontoon when grounding on a sand bar… or none…

  31. H.R. says:

    Looks like there’s a good chance ossqss may not be visiting here for a few days. Here’s some news on the tropical storm headed his way.
    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2018/05/26/Subtropical-Storm-Alberto-moving-north-into-Gulf-of-Mexico/3341527258911/

    Perchance he’ll be able to report in. Best wishes, buddy. The Great Karnak sees chain saws in your future.

  32. jim2 says:

    From the article:

    One of the ongoing system administration controversies in Linux is that there is an ongoing effort to obsolete the old, cross-Unix standard network administration and diagnosis commands of ifconfig, netstat and the like and replace them with fresh new Linux specific things like ss and the ip suite. Old sysadmins are generally grumpy about this; they consider it yet another sign of Linux’s ‘not invented here’ attitude that sees Linux breaking from well-established Unix norms to go its own way. Although I’m an old sysadmin myself, I don’t have this reaction. Instead, I think that it might be both sensible and honest for Linux to go off in this direction. There are two reasons for this, one ostensible and one subtle.

    https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/ReplacingNetstatNotBad

  33. jim2 says:

    From the article:
    A judge has proposed a nationwide programme to file down the points of kitchen knives as a solution to the country’s soaring knife crime epidemic.

    Last week in his valedictory address, retiring Luton Crown Court Judge Nic Madge spoke of his concern that carrying a knife had become routine in some circles and called on the Government to ban the sale of large pointed kitchen knives.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/27/knives-sharp-filing-solution-soaring-violent-crime-judge-says/

  34. E.M.Smith says:

    @Jim2:

    As discussed before, “weapons control” (i.e. weapons bans) never have worked, will not work. Even in prisons.
    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2018/04/11/gun-bans-lead-to-knife-control/

    He will also need to ban, right after knives that work, all the screwdrivers, hammers, ice picks, large nails, tent stakes, lengths of pipe, wires, fishing line, walking canes, chair legs, rope of any sort, cars, trucks, tire irons, crow bars, and tooth brushes (as a start).

    Tooth brushes? Yes, in prison a tooth brush with the handled filed to a point is the weapon of choice…

    Per Linux:

    Not buying it. Breaking a language and way of thinking is typically a very bad idea for all those folks using the language.

    It would be trivial to add a -aliases option to ifconfig that would add the second interface ip information. Old scrips would not be using the flag so would still work. New once can and will be built to work that way. This kind of thing has been done essentially forever.

    It is one of the minor diseases of Linux that ANYONE can code up their bright idea, disregarding all manner of backward compatibility, and shove it into a release. This is good in minor (i.e. small and marginal) distributions as it is a cauldron for new ideas. It can go horribly wrong when done in a major upstream release (as then it breaks all manner of massive uses downstream… See systemd). The folks who designed Unix were very very bright and very very careful. It is usually a mistake to think what they did is broken. It can occasionally be extended with good effect, but rarely is a full on replacement the right choice.

    We’ve had folks try to replace “man pages” with something else. “Info”? Don’t remember as I never would use it. Man pages still exist… Now we have Pottering trying to replace huge chunks of init + services with systemd. I’m not buying it, and the list of non-systemd releases moving to a Devuan upstream is growing. Rinse and repeat. Year after year.

    Lots of folks let their ego get in front of compatibility and usability and their personal need to apply a large amount of “dick with factor” usually disrupts life for the rest of us (sometimes just for a little while, sometimes longer if at a major upstream) with little to no gain for anyone.

    In the end, a large core of significant industrial services stay on the industrial strength BSD largely as it lets them avoid all this crap. I’ve done that at a couple of companies now (Apple and a significant start up after Apple some years ago). I’d be highly tempted to use BSD instead of Linux for core services at any future company for the same reasons. (I’m frankly thinking of using it for my own core services instead of Linux just due to systemd crap and getting tired of the “everything you know is wrong” from jerks thinking they have a brighter idea… ) The only real downside to it IMHO is that setting up a GUI is more of a PITA. Well you don’t need a GUI on core services.

    As per the notion their new whiz-bang is “more efficient”: Who gives a crap? The existing services are already so fast is head spinning. And the notion it doesn’t work well on larger systems is stupid. I ran Unix on a Cray using those same commands. THE biggest thing I noted was “Having a Cray means never having to say ‘wait a moment’…” Answers were always instant. Now we have orders of magnitude MORE speed at our fingertips. So if 1/10 millisecond was fine before, why would 1/100000 millisecond be unacceptable now? Just daft.

    @H.R.:

    I’m rather fond of the Sven Saw myself. Quiet, efficient, and doesn’t need gas…

    One hopes Ossqss is doing well and can report a reasonably happy Memorial Day even if the BBQ gets moved a day…

  35. cdquarles says:

    Depending on where ossqss lives, Alberto likely won’t be much beyond some wind and rain. I’m in the forecast path of its core, though by the time it gets near me, it won’t be much beyond some wind and rain.

  36. ossqss says:

    Reporting in as we near hour 30 in the Alberto dry slot here at SRQ. Partly cloudy and nicely breezy mid 80’s. We did have impacting factors however. The shrimp boil turned into Lasagna, sausage, and garlic bread as a precautionary measure. The wicked 15 mph gusts will play havock on the cornhole tournament (just add beer) later today!

    Cheeers to all!

    And a tribute to those today that gave it all for our freedom…..

  37. p.g.sharrow says:

    For those that haven’t experienced it. When you join the military to defend Freedom & Liberty you voluntarily give up yours and become a Indentured Servant and live your life at the whim of your master as his property, until you are released from your indentured servitude.
    A “Thank You” is greatly appreciated…pg

  38. E.M.Smith says:

    @Ossqss:

    Glad to hear things are well with you.

    @P.G.:

    Thank You!

    (As Dad and spouses Dad were both neck deep in W.W.II and I was aware of the “green for life” contract, and got a 300+ range number in the “this WAS your life” lottery, I managed to avoid the experience. But have deep thanks and admiration for those who “went there”…)

    @Linux / BSD topic:

    Got to wondering if BSD was on the Orange Pi yet. Two of those boards make up my “infrastructure” (oh, and a Pi B+ for my router / network / DNS / etc/ board). One OPi-1 runs my file server / LVM disk farm. The other is “on deck” for my future build plans. Both running Armbian with a Devuan “uplift”. But a clean BSD would be more reliable, easier to deal with, and I’d sleep better at night ;-) But there was no such port last time I looked.

    Well, progress is happening. Maybe not ready for prime time yet, but:

    https://framkant.org/2017/07/running-freebsd-on-nanopi-neo-or-orangepi-zero/

    Has one guy’s experience putting it on a Nano Pi and OPi-zero.

    It implies some support already for Orange Pi One… This one is NetBSD:

    https://github.com/ebijun/NetBSD/blob/master/dmesg/earmv7hf/OrangePi_One

    A binary blob for the boot process, I think…

    looks like there’s an official UBoot loader as of now:

    https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/u-boot-orangepi-one

    No mention of BSD on their software download page at the vendor at this time:

    http://www.orangepi.org/downloadresources/

    Nor is the Allwinner H3 listed on the FreeArm hw page:

    https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/arm.html#hw

    so anything running is in the back-room-boys-toys stage…

    OpenBSD, however, lists it as a supported board:

    https://www.openbsd.org/armv7.html

    Supported hardware
    A note on the platforms and the associated boards: OpenBSD/armv7 bundles various platforms sharing the ARM v7 architecture. Due to the fact that there are many System on a Chips (SoC) around, OpenBSD/armv7 differentiates between various SoCs and may have a different level of support between them. All devices based on the i.MX6 are referred to as imx, all devices based on A10/A20/A80/H3 are referred to as sunxi. The boards with an OMAP 3/4 SoC are subdivided into am335x (for BeagleBone), beagle (for BeagleBoard) and panda (for PandaBoard).

    Allwinner A10/A20
    Cubieboard
    LinkSprite pcDuino
    Banana Pi
    Allwinner A80
    Cubieboard4
    Allwinner H3
    Banana Pi M2+
    Orange Pi One

    Which is kind of a really big deal as the OpenBSD folks are THE most paranoid about security of anyone. They refuse to do a Raspberry Pi simply because there’s a binary blob in the boot process. (And they ARE right. It IS a theoretical exposure if the vendor were compromised).

    I think I see an OpenBSD install in my future (likely some weeks out… )

    Though looks like it needs a serial console connected and I don’t have one (wires and stuff)
    https://www.openbsd.org/63.html

    OpenBSD/armv7:

    Write a system specific miniroot to an SD card and boot from it after connecting to the serial console. Refer to INSTALL.armv7 for more details.

    Detailed install instructions to be read later…

    https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/6.3/armv7/INSTALL.armv7

    It will not be the hand-holding GUI Linux way, I’m sure… OTOH, something likely to be done once in a few years (upgrade in place after that and clone for duplicate boards) so sinking a weekend into it not that much per amortized day of use… For a highly bullet resistant (and perhaps bullet proof…) OpenBSD system

    OK, that’s the end of the investigation for today. BSD now an option on the Orange Pi One. Now it’s up to me to decide what I want, when, and if I care enough to actually sink the time. It would be easier to use a Raspberry Pi M3 with FreeBSD as it is more widely used; but my R.Pi boards are dedicated to the compute cluster and I like the idea of the Dirt Cheap OPi-1 for light duty things like file servers and support functions (where there poor heat performance at over 1/2 load will not arise as an issue…)

  39. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and for completion, the network performance oriented NetBSD has support for nearly everything BUT the vanilla “One”:
    https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/allwinner/

    Supported SoCs
    Family 	SoC 	NetBSD version 	Example boards 	Notes
    sun4i	A10	8.99.3 and later	Olimex A10-OLinuXino-LIME	
    sun5i	A10s	-	
    sun5i	A13	8.99.2 and later	Olimex A13-OLinuXino, Olimex A13-OLinuXino-MICRO
    sun5i	GR8	8.99.5	C.H.I.P. Pro	
    sun5i	R8	8.99.2 and later	C.H.I.P., Pocket C.H.I.P.	
    sun6i	A31	7.0 and later	Merrii Hummingbird A31	
    sun6i	A31s	-		
    sun7i	A20	7.0 and later	Cubietech Cubieboard 2, Cubietech Cubietruck, LeMaker Banana Pi	
    sun8i	A23	-	
    sun8i	A33	-	Olimex A33-OLinuXino
    sun8i	R40	-	Sinovoip Banana Pi BPI-M2U
    sun8i	A83T	8.0 and later	Sinovoip Banana Pi BPI-M3	
    sun8i	H2+	8.0 and later	Xunlong Orange Pi Zero	
    sun8i	H3	8.0 and later	FriendlyARM NanoPi NEO, Xunlong Orange Pi Plus 2E	
    sun8i	V3s	-	Lichee Pi Zero	
    sun9i	A80	8.0 and later	Cubietech Cubieboard 4	
    sun50i	A64	8.99.2 and later	Pine64, Pinebook	
    sun50i	H5	8.99.4 and later	FriendlyARM NanoPi NEO2, FriendlyARM NanoPi NEO Plus2	
    sun50i	H6	8.99.14 and later	Orange Pi One Plus, Pine H64
    

    So some other H3 boards including the Nano, and the “One Plus”, but not the H3 based “One”. So might work, or might not, or might take some trivial adjustment. Or might just be left out as a typo… or lacking a QA board…

  40. Larry Ledwick says:

    Ooops I hate it when that happens.

    Environmentalists Have To Pay Oil Co. $38 Million after Court Uncovers Fraudulent Lawsuit

    https://truepundit.com/environmentalists-have-to-pay-oil-co-38-million-after-court-uncovers-fraudulent-lawsuit/

  41. E.M.Smith says:

    Interesting… looks like they did a R.Pi OpenBSD after all… Must have gotten tired of arguing the point :-)

    https://www.openbsd.org/arm64.html

    Supported hardware

    OpenBSD/arm64 runs on the following hardware:

    Allwinner A64/H5
    Pine64 Pine 64/64+
    NanoPi A64
    Orange Pi PC2
    AMD Opteron A1100 (Seattle)
    AMD Seattle Development Board
    SoftIron OverDrive 1000
    Broadcom BCM2837
    Raspberry Pi 3

    Rockchip RK3328/RK3399
    Pine64 Rock64
    Firefly-RK3399

  42. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry:

    Well, this kinds of makes their point:

    https://www.chevron.com/ecuador/

    Testimony was also included from those formerly aligned with the plaintiffs, who provided firsthand account of corruption:

    Environmental Consultants: The plaintiffs’ key environmental consultants, from Stratus Consulting, provided sworn testimony disavowing their work for the plaintiffs’ lawyers and affirming that there is no scientific merit to the plaintiffs’ claims against Chevron.
    Funders: One of the largest financial backers of the plaintiffs, Burford Capital, provided sworn testimony documenting fraud and other misconduct on the part of the plaintiffs’ lawyers to secure funding.
    Former Judge: A former Ecuadorian judge who once presided over the case testified that the judge who issued the ruling was promised a half-million dollar bribe from the plaintiffs’ lawyers in exchange for ghostwriting the judgment in their favor.

    On March 4, 2014, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York ruled that the $9.5 billion Ecuadorian judgment was the product of fraud and racketeering activity, finding it unenforceable. This decision was unanimously affirmed by the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit on August 8, 2016. The appeals court stated that Donziger and his team engaged in a “parade of corrupt actions…including coercion, fraud and bribery.”

    Looks like Chevron got enough dirt on some of the related parties to “flip” them in a “Testify against the others or you go down with them” operation…

  43. Larry Ledwick says:

    EM I know you are constantly playing with things like different linux distributions, and in the past you have mentioned how some of the terminal options are not your favorite.

    I just stumbled across this terminal that some folks say they really like (I have not messed with it)

    But thought you might be interested in looking at it to see how well it plays with some of the setups you have.

    https://hyper.is/#installation

  44. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry:

    I’ll take a look at it. Are you sure it was “terminal” options and not GUI / Desktop / Windows Manager?

    I’m usually OK with anything that gives me a plain old command line interface…

    Per BSD:

    While looking a bit more into other bits about BSD on the Raspberry Pi I ran into a very nice description of just why I like BSD…

    sirrippzalot 9 points· 1 year ago

    I grew up on dos and windows, learned about Linux in high school and tried tons of distros including Linux From Scratch. I found out about OpenBSD in a programming class and tried it out. After trying it out I went on and tried out NetBSD and FreeBSD, both where good but I quickly switched back to OpenBSD. I loved how minimal everything was, the install was fast and simple, on average it’s about 5 minutes and 90% of the keys you hit are enter. The install can also be done over a serial console which I find very handy. The documentation is amazing compared to any Linux distro I have tried. All of the hardware that is supported just works. There is a hard policy against binary drivers in the kernel for security reasons. They built their own ACPI stack that works better than windows on all my laptops. I program in C and Perl and it’s a great development environment for them right out of the box. It’s security record is not from “lack of users” it’s secure because of the routine audits and all of the proactive always on exploit mitigations that are always being added and improved. The pledge mitigation is the newest one. Some of the mitigations are in the kernel and some are in the system compiler. The mitigations also help find bugs that don’t show up in software compiled on other systems. They have a very nice system for firewalling, pf. Using IPTABLES on Linux is painful and pf is orders of magnitude better. The X11 that’s included doesn’t run as root and has great 3D support on Intel and AMD, although not Nvidia because they only release a binary driver and don’t publish spec sheets. All of the daemons in the base system are designed with security in mind, they auto chroot and pass messages between the privileged and unprivileged parts. I also like the BSD license more than the GPL. Freedom isn’t free and the GPL takes away developers and users freedom and gives it to the code while the BSD license gives almost all of it to the developer and user. It’s extremely stable too, 90% of the crashes I’ve had are from hardware starting to fail and the other crashes have been from using the bleeding edge snapshots. Getting the window manager you want is easy, set your environment variable PKG_PATH to a package server and ‘pkg_add your_wm’. X11 is included in the base system unlike on FreeBSD. If you already like Linux the transition is really easy. It doesn’t chase feature fads so any new feature that is added are developed with thoughtful care. It is a coherent, simple, and well thought out system with great code quality. I could go on but this wall of text is probably to high already.

    TL;DR It’s an amazing system but it’s not for everyone.

    In short: It’s a bit different from Linux, and harder to get set up with a desktop, but for servers, there is nothing quite as consistent, rock solid, dependable, secure, and just-right.

    Linux has a very high “dick with factor” and “surprise” (often negative) factor. BSD is just the opposite. Don’t look for the latest brain storm until after a thoughtful stewing on it by the BSD steering committee… but don’t expect many “brain farts” to make it into the product either…

    It DOES expect you to be technically competent and NOT need ANY hand holding, and expects you to be well versed in installing X-windows and windows managers from scratch if you want that whole GUI stuff cluttering up your computer…

    Well, looks like OpenBSD is now on the Pi family, so a choice of at least 2 and likely 3 different optimizations of BSD available. I’ll need to do some more “digging” into just what facilities are supported for things like distributed computing (distcc, etc.) and just how mature the Orange Pi One port might be. It would be nice to have at least one board “in production” on BSD… (You never forget your first love ;-)

  45. Larry Ledwick says:

    It lists being available for
    Debian (.deb)
    Fedora (.rpm)
    Other Linux distros (.AppImage)

  46. David A says:

    Ok , if you missed this check it out. ( very funny) This MSNBC host, about to go on the air is triggered by a technical problem, revealing the insanity within. Well this video reveals the source of the problem…

  47. Another Ian says:

    Gawd!! Barricade the kitchen!

    “Theresa May’s Britain”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2018/05/29/theresa-mays-britain-11/

  48. philjourdan says:

    jim2 says: @ 26 May 2018 at 2:28 pm

    Apparently the latest Star Wars offering isn’t much of one.

    As EM commented, the SJWs make a lot of noise. But they do not spend any money (liberals never do). So Hollywood makes crap that the noise applauds, and the box office bombs. Eventually they will get the message. or the companies that do get it will take over the failed concerns.

  49. philjourdan says:

    pouncer says: @ 26 May 2018 at 2:51 pm

    The railroad companies funded the whole process, anticipating that victory, (and integration) would be profitable for them. Profit, not justice, was the whole motive.

    I have tried to tell the left that slavery IS a creation of GOVERNMENT. But they always plug their ears and deny it. Government is the only body that has the power to impose it and enforce it. There are rare instances (notable and reportable due to the rarity) where some poor immigrant is enslaved by some cretins. But that is the exception, not the rule. The only way slavery can exist is with the power of the state behind it.

    And yet, the ones who “proclaim” they are not the enslavers, are also the ones demanding a more powerful government. Some are hopelessly stupid. But most are just gross liars and deceivers.

  50. philjourdan says:

    E.M.Smith says: @ 26 May 2018 at 2:58 pm

    Then there’s the big money Gobalists only willing to fund things that push The Agenda. So we end up with “Right Wing Terrorists” when the original book had Muslim Terrorists blowing up a nuke in the USA (and a far more realistic threat since Iran has said they want to do that).

    The Sum of All Fears! That movie really pissed me off. I read every Tom Clancey book, and thought the first few converted to movies were ok. But they destroyed the basis of that one – which WAS a warning! (the movie was just a joke).

  51. cdquarles says:

    @ phil

    Yes, the movie “Hunt for the Red October” was pretty good. I don’t remember if I ever watched “The Sum of all Fears” as a movie. I’ve not watched a movie in a theater pretty much since the “War of the Worlds” remake. Movies these days? They’re awful. I dropped Netflix about a decade ago.

    Customers don’t care what political philosophy is held by people who own and operate a business, until the company gets in their face with it. Customers who disagree eventually decide that the products sold are not worth the hassle. They start “boycotts” on their own long before people begin calling for boycotts publicly. Plus, “liberals” seem to be easy to herd. “Conservatives”, being more free thinking and individualist (which does not mean said individuals will not organize), are not, seemingly, as easy to herd.

  52. philjourdan says:

    @CD – If the last movie you saw was “War of the Worlds”, I can well understand why you have not seen another. That one really sucked! But Hollyweird has been destroying remakes for a long time.

    Patriot Games was close enough (at least they kept the protagonists as the IRA – I guess that is because they were White Europeans). Clear and Present Danger strayed a lot as well, but at least they got the villains correct.

  53. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting genetic component map of European groups.

  54. Glenn999 says:

    What’s your take on the Tommy Robinson issue? I think the US should warn the UK that allies don’t treat their citizens that way. Tyranny is only one generation away if free people don’t stand up against it.

    Tommy Robinson Reporting Restriction Lifted, Jailed for 13 Months

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/29/tommy-robinson-reporting-restriction-lifted-jailed-13-months/

  55. Larry Ledwick says:

    The word on twitter and gab is that the “normal people” in the UK are absolutely furious over the arrest and sentencing of Tommy with no public hearing and proper representation.

    They had lots of protests (which probably resulted in the lifting of reporting restrictions), but this is not over, the general public has suddenly realized how close they are to an outright totalitarian regime.

    This may re-energize Brexit.

  56. E.M.Smith says:

    @Glen999:

    I think it is horrid that a reporter got railroaded by an overzealous judge.
    I also think that when a judge rules no coverage and you flout breaking that,expect jail time.

    He wanted fame, now he has it.
    Judge wanted secrecy and has totally lost it.
    Wonder if the perps get a free walk now…

    BTW, had he been only filming instead of live streaming, this would be hideous. Preventing any future reporting or history recording. As it was live streaming the perps it WAS prejudicial. Presuming guilt… Were you arrested for matching a description, would YOU want TV Broadcast of your face? If innocent? So I see the judge’s point. But he did overreact..

  57. H.R. says:

    Let’s start off the week with some bafflegab.

    The article linked below is about a psychologist who thinks that all the efforts to make kids happy and feel good about themselves are missing the mark and that kids should be taught how to bounce back from disappointments. Not a shabby idea.

    But where was she when my mom and her peers were teaching kids to count your blessings? Teaching that happiness comes from within and is not something that you can buy or just have bestowed on you? Never to depend on others for your happiness?

    And where was she when my father and other WWII vets came home and taught us you can’t win them all? If you’re smart and work hard and have an aptitude, you can win most of the time until you come across someone better, or have a good shot of winning your share if you work at it, or he steers you into something else because you suck at baseball?

    Anyhow, she seems to think yoga, and a few other things can teach the values that the Greatest Generation learned from their parents and tried to pass to the next generation, and didn’t need to hire a psychologist to do it.

    Here’s the link.
    https://qz.com/1289236/resilience-is-the-new-happiness/

  58. jim2 says:

    The 51% Solution. From the article:

    “The wave of 51 percent attacks has renewed fears in the cryptocurrency community that similar attacks may take down even larger networks, perhaps even market leaders Bitcoin and Ethereum. If you’re wondering how these attacks work and if there’s anything that can be done to stop them, you’ve come to the right place.”

    https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a3a38e/what-is-a-51-percent-attack-silicon-valley-bitcoin-gold-verge-monacoin-cryptocurrency

  59. jim2 says:

    It’s not just GB that’s being taken over by Socialist elitists, Italy arguably has an even worse problem. From the article:

    “The decision by Italy’s president to reject a populist coalition government and install a government led by a former director of the International Monetary Fund is winning applause from European Union elitists even while financial markets globally convulsed.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/29/markets-reject-us-establishment-position-italy/

  60. Another Ian says:

    “Judge Marson’s Gag Order on Tommy was stupid – Tommy apparently agreed he was in contempt”

    http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2018/05/judge-marsons-gag-order-on-tommy-was-stupid-tommy-apparently-agreed-he-was-in-contempt.html

  61. Another Ian says:

    E.M. Link might be of interest – I haven’t read it as yet

    “A2 says:
    May 30, 2018 at 12:49 am

    If you wish to understand China’s recent moves and groves, especially in relation to the President’s China policy, become an instant China expert and counter the fools on twitter and Farcebook, impress your friends and gain a holistic understanding, of what is at stake, read this report. It may take an hour of your time, but a brilliant analysis that is as rare as hen’s teeth. I highly recommend it. I’m sure the President’s team has, and poor old tinker bell Trudeau and his hapless Nafta negotiator should read it. I call it the one-stop shopping for everything you need to know about China, its goals, methods and future moves.

    Following Chatham House Rules, the composite report does not identify individual contributors, but collectively they deserve high merit. :-D.

    Please read, absorb and I assure you will not be disappointed.

    https://www.canada.ca/en/security-intelligence-service/corporate/publications/china-and-the-age-of-strategic-rivalry.html

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/30/wednesday-may-30th-trump-administration-day-496/#comment-5440586

  62. David A says:

    Sorry , yet I must post this again, as it is very funny, and also an accurate metaphors of how Trumps owns the statist left.

  63. philjourdan says:

    HT – Another Ian

    EM – “So vicious has been his treatment, the authorities won’t even tell his wife and family where he’s been held. Just like that, all in one day. There’s not even a pretense at some rule of law.”

    That goes beyond “I told you so”. That is clearly fatal retribution.

  64. Glenn999 says:

    Pardon me if this is not appropriate content and feel free to clip the post, but I thought Planet of the Apes was about the primates in an alternate world evolving into thinking beings that rivaled the humans. What did I miss. Perhaps it was the reboot I didn’t see.

    Hey, how about a post on the words we cannot say. George Carlin had found 7. I think there are few more now. Perhaps an analytical approach to the problem. We all know the A-word we can’t say, or do we? Let’s identify them all, and label them: A1, A2, A3 etc all the way to Z1, Z2 etc. This could be fun, and hopefully profitable.

  65. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Their executive summary matches my evaluation of China. I’ve not read all of it yet ( I will ) but so far it looks like they have it right. When thinking of China just picture “Pinky & The Brain” and the question what will they to today: “Same thing we do every night Pinky, try to take over The WORLD!!!” and you will be close to right.

  66. Larry Ledwick says:

    An interesting article on the loose coalition of goups which have united to form the Anti-Trump resistance. It reads like something out of 1984, as almost every assertion in it is 180 degrees out of phase with reality.

    They assert they are supporting rule of law and the Constitution when in fact the resistance is trying to enforce corrupt law and neutering of the Constitution. Sometimes it feels like I am in a bad dream. When I was younger I could not understand how totalitarian governments wormed their way into power, but now I am in slow motion witnessing the slow persistent pressure or propaganda turning American Ideals on their head and relabeling those who support a return to small government, equal justice under law and adherence to the concepts and literal interpretation of the Constitution into an outcast group charged with doing exactly the opposite. Meanwhile some of the most corrupt politicians and power groups are draping themselves in the flag as defenders of the American Dream when there dream is a nightmare.

    My father and his generation of WWII would be absolutely furious about these events and the recent drift in American politics, and would not even recognize the America he fought for.

    http://www.france24.com/en/20180530-who-fighting-trump-opposition-meet-resistance-resist-twitter-hashtag-grassroots-usa

  67. jim2 says:

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch …
    “COCONUT CREEK (CBSMiami) – A veteran Coconut Creek Police Officer who made a snide and disparaging comment about student activists from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School will be suspended from his job without pay for 5 days and undergo sensitivity training, the city’s police chief told CBS 4 News.”

    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/05/29/coconut-creek-officer-suspended-david-hogg/

  68. E.M.Smith says:

    @Jim2:

    Let the muzzling begin… what happens once The Left has power. Their Side gets to shout in the streets, monopolize media, hang banners from private property with impunity; your side gets toss in jail or “trained” (IF you get to keep your job) for either just asking what’s allowed or pointing out what was being done and by whom with what lack of manners.

    @Larry:

    A fascinating article, but not for the reasons the writer intended. The video version of France24 is not nearly so lopsided loonie left partisan. Either that, or they disguise it well enough I don’t notice. (Something about Nadia presenting the… whatever she’s talking about ;-)

    It is a very good illustration of the craziness and poor ‘reality skills’ on ‘the other side’. Terribly upset about “foreign meddling in elections” but not a peep about Soros the Foreign Meddler In Chief.

    There seems to be an ever deepening insanity infesting The Left and their political handlers. I just hope it isn’t too contagious and can be cured.

  69. Larry Ledwick says:
  70. H.R. says:

    @Larry – I hit a patch where I was working so much (7 days/wk, a few were 36 hr shifts with 6 hours at home to recover, for about 6 weeks) my body wouldn’t shut down after the work crunch was over. Did not want to take OTC sleep aids or use alcohol so I saw my doctor. I’d never heard of Ambien. She prescribed 3 (three!) Ambien pills, one per night for three nights. Worked great, no tales to tell.

    I asked for her to prescribe some more and she said, “No, not for another 6 months, if you need it then.” She was aware of the side effects and explained them briefly to me (after I took the pills… thanks, Doc!). She would only prescribe them for situations similar to mine where people coudn’t shut down and she strictly limited the duration; 2 or 3 or 4 days.

    Since then, Ambien has become widely advertised and used and I heard more about the sometimes tragic side effects from using Ambien. Now retired, I never expect to see another work crunch again, but even so, I’d put Ambien on the bottom of the list.

  71. E.M.Smith says:

    I looked up Ambien in my PDR (yes, I have a Physician’s Desk Reference… Everyone ought to have one. I look up every medication anyone in my family has prescribed or OTC.) For Ambien, it listed “episodes of bizarre behavior” as a side effect. Check!

    I was going to type in that excerpt but the dogs demanded diner and a walk ;-)

  72. E.M.Smith says:

    Most recent thing I can find says the lava covered 2 well heads at the Puna Geothermal plant and then stopped.

    As lava typically does not erode into the ground, but solidifies and builds up a layer, most likely they will be able to just chisel down in get back to the well head steel valves. Unfortunately, they “plugged” the wells, so now there’s crap inside the well casing. I supposed they can auger that out.

    Most likely they will just leave it entombed to avoid the inevitable fear monger protesters and drill two new holes next to them…

    Good news is that it looks like most of the plant and several more wells are all intact and fine.

  73. ossqss says:

    I am currently watching another edition of Battle Bots. It appears they still don’t permit 12 gauge shotguns or 440 volts. Dangit! I would be in if it was so….. ;-)

  74. ossqss says:

    I stand corrected. They now have one with a functional Cannon! Let alone the Fire drone…..,, not so sure I would be in the audience this time. LOL

  75. E.M.Smith says:

    And am I the only one bothered by the (clueless) news media harping on a potential Hydrogen Sulfide explosion from the wells?

    Seems to me if lava (somehow unexplained as it forms cap rocks, not erosion channels) managed to cause a well to vent H2S that gas would be escaping over / through lava at something like 1000 C to 2000 C, so would be rather hot. Then it would impact air that was also lava heated.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_sulfide

    Flash point of -82.4 C means any ignition source, it will ignite in air. Seems to me several tons of hot spattering lava is an “ignition source”.

    Autoignition point of 232 C or 450 F so highly likely it would be well above that point after bubbling through liquid lava (and if it ISN’T liquid, the gas can’t get out…) so would autoignite on contact with air anyway.

    Then, since air is NOT down in the wells, the “event” at most ought to be a blue flame as the gas hits the air.

    It just reeks of fear mongering to me…

    And now we’ve had two wells covered with lava and…. nothing happened.

  76. E.M.Smith says:

    @Ossqss:

    Call me when they allow oxy-acetylene torches and shaped charge explosives ;-)

  77. E.M.Smith says:

    One other quick comment:

    I’m really liking watching the volcano news on the the local Hawaii TV station. Very detailed reports of the lava location, rate of travel, new fissures. Even the weather report includes “vog” predictions and where ash fall is expected. Just had the drone shot (video from the drone) of the guy being lead out of the lava flows by heading toward the drone. Nifty as they showed the first responders with flashlights not able to find the guy.

    It’s just nice to have full and complete news. NewsOn has a bunch of them but you can also find them on Youtube for many local stations. This one is in the “tv” page up top:
    http://www.kitv.com/

  78. p.g.sharrow says:

    Apparently the “old lava”has bee exhausted and now the “new” hotter and more fluid lava is now fountaining and flowing. The new stuff is as hot as Hawaiian lava gets.
    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/multimedia_maps.html
    latest map,looks like much of PGV is now over run…pg

  79. E.M.Smith says:

    PGV is Puna Geothermal?

    I don’t see it marked on the maps, what am I missing? News said lava covered two wells and stopped…

    Update: Found it. the hollow letters PGV centered slightly above the rift line / start of flow. I was looking for solid type closer to the ocean. I think that map resolution is not enough to resolve ‘over 2 wells on property’ vs ‘whole property’.

    Per VPNs:

    I was looking into setting up a VPN on a remote virtual server… ($15 / year) and ran into this bit on bypassing The Great FW of China:
    https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/21539/tutorial-build-your-ultimate-scrambled-vpn

    More complicated than the basic setup:
    http://shanghai.wikia.com/wiki/Run_your_own_VPN

    OTOH, it better masks your traffic against inspection here too…

    If there is interest in articles about this I could be nudged into trying it. It would let me have a private connection from, say, a Starbucks (or now, more likely a Pete’s Coffee ;-) open WiFi to my own “outlet to the world” without needing to connect to my home network (fingering who I am and what I’m doing while exposing another port to attack…). It also masks your real location for origin of traffic things and identity of your home ISP.

    So any interest in a HowTo (beyond the above) and WT? experiences blow-by-blow?

    At the cost of 3 Starbucks Mochas, or for California – 4 gallons of gas; for a 1 year VPN server, all dedicated just to you and with NOBODY looking at the inside of your virtual box world (i.e. you can trust the sysadmin ’cause they are you…) it looks like an attractive option to me. More so than building one inside my home network and opening a port in the router / firewall (and attack surface) to it. Even if just in the Guest / TV network, it’s an exposure, as it puts the attacker inside your space…(though very isolated from everything else, I’d not want to get a phone call saying the TV was not working right… especially if I was 3000 miles away at the time; as doing tech support over remote phone is not my idea of fun.)

  80. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting!
    It is always fun to watch you sort these things out and I learn stuff every time you get on one of these projects.

    When I was going out to Bonneville all the time for a while I used a vpn service (being a gambling town I figured Wendover Utah was a high risk environment to be on the web. It seemed to work okay, but unfortunately the provider went out of business. Internet coverage out on the salt is a bit too iffy for my taste so at the time I never followed up to find something else.

    It would be nice to have an safe encrypted vpn you could connect to anywhere.

    On a related note since we sometimes chat about various secure communications methods and locking down systems. Here is a nice tutorial I stumbled across on the ultimate secure communications method for those times when you absolutely positively must protect the message contents from even the top tier threats.

    So if you ever need to send messages to a friend and avoid being compromised by the intelligence services of the Galactic Empire this is how you do it – – – drop back 20 to low tech, a set of dice and a pad and pencil based one time pad.

    Slow terse messaging, but for folks like protesters in Iran right now where compromise is a death sentence this is the only provably uncrackable code cypher if properly executed (and you don’t do dumb things that leave back doors). His comments about using computers for secure communication are interesting and very direct and too the point.

    http://users.telenet.be/d.rijmenants/en/onetimepad.htm

  81. E.M.Smith says:

    Ah, yes, the One Time Pad.

    I once cooked up an encryption scheme using a common book as the one time pad. You would have a much smaller and simpler one time pad for just sending the small text of the particular ISBN number book to use, plus pages. Then subsequent “stuff” would be encrypted using an encoding of where that letter or word was found on the page (with tags for letter, or word, or number as the encrypted item). So 1235 could mean 1st page, 2nd sentence, 3rd word then the 5 had various functions ( I had a list of amusing permutations some of which included flagging an ‘offset’ to some of the prior lookup targets and some were “modulo” functions and others were “next word starts a new ISBN” so you could change your “one off sheet” mid-text.

    As long as you could send the first ISBN securely (and especially if it were not obvious you were using books as your One Off Key text) it was pretty darned secure.

    I eventually went way overboard with it having meta-tags for things like “skip the next N char of text it is gibberish” and “skip the next N lines they are gibberish” and even “skip forward M lines and process them backward to here then pick up on the other side of them” Now since all this stuff was already encrypted inside the first pass, it was not obvious that it was there at all…

    Unfortunately, it was all a little too complicated to be practical in use… More like a treasure hunt, even for the intended recipient, than a production code method ought to be. OTOH, having an insertion of 240 char of random text that you knew to skip due to a 12345 24099 code block would tend to mess up the folks doing things like population count (looking for ‘e’ as most used letter) and similar things. It also would let you do stupid things (like always have the same ending that broke Enigma as the Germans always ended with Heil H. ) by having your ending not always come at the end. So after you end, you have that 12345 24099 and then the next 240 lines are just random stuff (or something like encrypted random Spanish Poetry ;-) (Did I mention there was a flag for “shift to FOO language in translation” to let you further encode the encoded?…)

    All based on the One Off Pad idea.

    THE big problem with One Off Pads is distribution of the pad / capture of the pad. My idea was to avoid that and just have a tiny pad to distribute that was used only to point to other pads to use that were already widely available; mixed with some permutation syntax in the encoding.

    Per VPN:

    So I’ll count that as one vote for “yes”?… OK.

    With VPNs the big risk is that the vendor must be trusted as must their Admin staff. Now if you run the VPN in a private virtual machine where you know there are no logs kept and you know the administrator is not watching your transactions / logs; you have most of the risk gone. Encrypt the traffic from you to the server and it’s even better. Now a ‘snoop’ has to know you have the VPN, where it is, when you are using it, and THEN go look for the output from it. IF that output is HTTPS traffic, well, that’s encrypted too. If it is an encrypted email or attached file, well that’s a block too. Pretty much all you get is some (limited) contact trace information AFTER you figure out it’s a VPN and go to the VPN virtual server company and THEN get them to install some kind of sniffer … or contact their ISP to get a tap on your VPS (Virtual Private Server) internet traffic.

    Not CIA / NSA proof, but would slow them down a little

    It also spoofs all the geolocate via IP stuff on web sites gives you one more layer of isolation if someone decided to “crawl back up the wire” and hack you. They have to hack that box first, and since it’s a VPS that only pops up when you turn it on…

  82. p.g.sharrow says:

    you might find this genetic evaluation of “Y” cromosome of interest;
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-04375-6
    Seems to have been a major bottle neck around the time of the Great Flood. Nearly 95% of the male lines were eliminated, but not the female lines…pg

  83. philjourdan says:

    The rubber band is starting to snap back:

    “I’ve been feeling like [Black Lives Matter are] white liberals in blackface,”
    Standford student, freshman Ebbie Banks

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/31/stanford-student-video-blm-race/

    He is black.

  84. E.M.Smith says:

    @P.G.:

    Interesting; but sure took a lot of words to say “Male led clans fighting each other caused it”…

    I thought folks were pretty well familiar with the Hatfields & Mccoys stories ;-)

    @Phil:

    One of the minor joys of my life was my Black Motorcycle Buddy. He was a great guy and very tech savy. We met on a contract we were both working. Me Linux him Windows. He was not very fond of the Dimocrat BS… Blacks remember that it was Southern Democrats who fought to keep slavery and prevent integration… He looked at a lot of the Faux Liberal stuff as just repackaging dependency… Was also not very fond of “Ghetto N….s” (his words…) and was a Sergent? something like that in the US Air Force before retiring to do compute stuff outside.

    Once you’ve been friends with one Black who has escaped the Democrat Plantation it gives you a lot of hope for the rest…

    So yeah, “Democrats in Black Face” is about right…

    @Ossqss:

    You seem surprised that Google is not trustworthy and that we are in an over the top partisan WAR where the Democrats see no reason to do anything BUT dirty tricks.

    If you want morality, you need to find yourself some nice right wing conservatives to follow / hang with…

    See the Clinton Capers, Clinton Money Laundry / Foundation, Obama long history of lies and doing the opposite, the Steele Dossier, Mueller, FBI corruption, rampant slander, the demise of Bernie in the primaries via CNN “help” and more … In that context a little Google Slime Lying is hardly in the top ten… /sarc;

    Oh, and do note that Bill Clinton was on TV saying he was an advocate of “3rd Way” economics; that is exactly what Fascism and Nazism invented and promoted; so if anyone qualifies as an advocate for the 3rd Way National Socialism ideals, it’s the Clintons and the Democrats. Republicans are all about free markets and Republics. Entirely the opposite of “3rd Way” with the massive government control and “National Socialism” with lots of taxes, strong labor unions, and massive “social programs”.

    So no real surprise that they try to stick their opponent with what is actually their proper label. After all, part of the National Socialist method is the Big Lie Propaganda…

  85. Another Ian says:

    E.M. FYI

    “‘Save the Internet’ – EU Moves to Monitor Uploads, ‘Censor’ Memes, ‘Tax’ Website Links”

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/31/save-internet-eu-moves-monitor-uploads-censor-memes-tax-links/

  86. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Well, if that passes it will be the end of the Internet as you know it (it will become a commercially owned wasteland) BUT The Dark Web will grow to suddenly dwarf it…

    Think China and Russia are going to pay a “link tax” to the EU? What about Africa? Think they will not share files?

    I have a “modest proposal”:

    Should the EU pass such utter stupidity, the Rest Of World just puts in a very simple filter that blocks the EU from connecting to Rest Of World on THE Internet. They can do whatever they want inside their (ever shrinking number of) countries; but we can certainly keep the contagion from bothering us.

    I, for example, would simply bring up my new Blog on a R. Pi in my bedroom and put an IP filter in front of it that blocked any EU origin IP from reaching it. Then I’d tell any EU government inquiries to “piss off”. As there would be no large web services provider involved with my site operations, they could not bypass me and lean on them. I suppose they could try to harass AT&T but I suspect AT&T would be uninterested… Except they could not SEE my site unless they were outside the EU (physically or logically).

    I’d also start contributing computes and programming effort to “P2P Internet 2.0” with full encryption and anonymity built in. (I’m sure lots of folks are already working on it…)

    Essentially all you need is the ability to do encrypted tunneling and you can build an entire internet inside the encrypted anonymous space (i.e. the present Dark Web). Good luck taxing links you can’t see and blocking content with a source that’s everywhere and nowhere…

    Folks need to realize that ANYONE located ANYWHERE can build their own internet. All the tools are open to anyone to use. You do need others to join you and cooperate with you, but that’s how the present internet started in the first place.

    So take any private interest group that wishes to bypass EU Censorship. They can set up an “Invitation Only” network between themselves using VPN inside the public internet infrastructure. Then, on that private VPN Network, they can have a private DNS server serving up the VPN addresses of the private servers serving the private web pages.

    Realize I did that for a living at various companies as they would merge with others. I’d use the (intrinsic built in) VPN function in their routers to connect their internal networks and then coordinate their DNS services so everyone could see the stuff in the other sites. A private “internet” between the two “corporate nets”. Takes about 1/2 day to set up, debug, and go live.

    So say the EU decides that “criticizing the EU is forbidden”, then I could just start the “EU-Sucks.freedom” network, configure a DNS to serve the ‘.freedom’ domain (bypassing the current domain name system) and offer VPN connections to that sub-network with that DNS server and any other servers I wanted to add. Others could then add their servers (and notify me of it so I could add them to the DNS server) and even add their own DNS secondary servers. Other than being over VPN instead of over wired network, that is basically how The Internet happened. Oh, and nothing would prevent me from buying a leased line to, say, P.G. in the hills, and having that leg of the “freedom” network running over wired network instead of VPN. It’s just a matter of money applied.

    At that point the EU has to either find a way to say that PRIVATE speech over PRIVATE communications links is illegal, or shut up and take it.

  87. E.M.Smith says:

    Just as a reminder of the present “state of the art”:

    https://freenetproject.org/

    Browse websites, post on forums, and publish files within Freenet with strong privacy protections.

    Freenet is a peer-to-peer platform for censorship-resistant communication and publishing.

    https://geti2p.net/en/

    The Invisible Internet Project

    What does I2P do for you?

    The I2P network provides strong privacy protections for communication over the Internet. Many activities that would risk your privacy on the public Internet can be conducted anonymously inside I2P.

    What is I2P?

    I2P is an anonymous overlay network – a network within a network. It is intended to protect communication from dragnet surveillance and monitoring by third parties such as ISPs.
    I2P is used by many people who care about their privacy: activists, oppressed people, journalists and whistleblowers, as well as the average person.
    No network can be “perfectly anonymous”. The continued goal of I2P is to make attacks more and more difficult to mount. Its anonymity will get stronger as the size of the network increases and with ongoing academic review.
    I2P is available on desktops, embedded systems (like the Raspberry Pi) and Android phones. Help spread the word!
    Read more…

    What can you do with I2P?

    Email: Integrated web mail interface, plugin for serverless email.
    Web browsing: Anonymous websites, gateways to and from the public Internet.
    Blogging and forums: Blogging and Syndie plugins.
    Website hosting: Integrated anonymous web server.
    Real-time chat: Instant messaging and IRC clients.
    File sharing: ED2K and Gnutella clients, integrated BitTorrent client.
    Decentralized file storage: Tahoe-LAFS distributed filesystem plugin.

    https://zeronet.io/

    ZeroNet
    Open, free and uncensorable websites,
    using Bitcoin cryptography and BitTorrent network

    Peer-to-Peer
    Your content distributed directly to other visitors without any central server.

    Uncensored
    It’s nowhere because it’s everywhere!
    No hosting costs
    Sites are served by visitors.
    Always accessible
    No single point of failure.

    Simple
    No configuration needed:
    Download, unpack and start using it.

    And most likely 1/2 dozen others are already sitting out there just waiting to be needed… or you can roll your own like I described above.

    So go ahead, EU Masters Of The World /sarc; , and think you can control this. Most you can do is break it for your own area of the world. The rest of us will just avoid you and your contamination. We are already prepared.

  88. E.M.Smith says:

    Well… Looks like GNU is doing a dark net as a built-in function:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNUnet

    GNUnet is a software framework for decentralized, peer-to-peer networking and an official GNU package. The framework offers link encryption, peer discovery, resource allocation, communication over many transports (such as TCP, UDP, HTTP, HTTPS, WLAN and Bluetooth) and various basic peer-to-peer algorithms for routing, multicast and network size estimation.

    GNUnet’s basic network topology is that of a mesh network
    . GNUnet includes a distributed hash table (DHT) which is a randomized variant of Kademlia that can still efficiently route in small-world networks. GNUnet offers a “F2F topology” option for restricting connections to only the users’ trusted friends. The users’ friends’ own friends (and so on) can then indirectly exchange files with the users’ computer, never using its IP address directly.

    GNUnet uses Uniform resource identifiers (not approved by IANA, although an application has been made). GNUnet URIs consist of two major parts: the module and the module specific identifier. A GNUnet URI is of form gnunet://module/identifier where module is the module name and identifier is a module specific string.

    The primary codebase is written in C, but with gnunet-java there is an effort to produce an API for developing extensions in Java. GNUnet is part of the GNU project. It has gained interest to the hacker community after the PRISM revelations.

    GNUnet consists of several subsystems, of which essential ones are Transport and Core subsystems. Transport subsystem provides insecure link-layer communications, while Core provides peer discovery and encryption. On top of the core subsystem various applications are built.

    GNUnet includes various P2P applications in the main distribution of the framework, including filesharing, chat and VPN; additionally, a few external projects (such as secushare) are also extending the GNUnet infrastructure.

    There’s a list of others in the wiki as well (with links there):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet

    Active
    anoNet is a decentralized friend-to-friend network built using VPNs and software BGP routers.
    Decentralized network 42 (not for anonymity but research purposes)
    Freenet is a popular darknet (friend-to-friend) by default; since version 0.7 it can run as a “opennet” (peer nodes are discovered automatically).
    GNUnet can be utilised as a darknet if the “F2F (network) topology” option is enabled.
    I2P (Invisible Internet Project) is another overlay network that features a darknet whose sites are called “Eepsites”.
    OneSwarm can be run as a darknet for friend-to-friend file-sharing.
    RetroShare can be run as a darknet (friend-to-friend) by default to perform anonymous file transfers if DHT and Discovery features are disabled.
    Riffle is a client-server darknet system that simultaneously provides secure anonymity (as long as at least one server remains uncompromised), efficient computation, and minimal bandwidth burden.
    Syndie is software used to publish distributed forums over the anonymous networks of I2P, Tor and Freenet.
    Tor (The onion router) is an anonymity network that also features a darknet – its “hidden services”. It is the most popular instance of a darknet.
    Tribler can be run as a darknet for file-sharing.
    Zeronet is open source software aimed to build an internet-like computer network of peer-to-peer users of Tor.

    I probably ought to pick one and put up a service site on the Dark Web, just to be getting ready for when, not if, the EU goes and does another Bat Shit Crazy Authoritarian Stupidity, as they must.

    Hopefully the UK will have escaped from the EU before that time and can join the rest of us in the Free World…

  89. E.M.Smith says:

    Fascinating…. This graph of TOR usage speaks interesting things…

    Italy, Israel, and MDA Moldova? have the highest usage / 100k. While the USA has a lot of individual users just due to our big population size. Then France, Germany, Spain, Netherlands, and to a lesser extent the UK round out a healthy large use in Europe. I note that Iran is also a big user.

    Now surprise to me is how little the rest of the world uses it. I wonder if it is just from low computer use, or from less ‘need’, or from more oppression? (Will vary by country). But the low use in Russia and China are surprises while South America ex Brazil and Africa are almost non-existent.

    Ditto most of Asia and SE Asia with a bare honorable mention for Australia… (but low population down under so reasonable I guess.)

    I do find the large use in Europe and the M.E. surprising. I guess folks in the EU and oppressive regimes in the M.E. are in the lead on this whole privacy and anonymity thing… (Either that or a whole lot of folks are talking between the two places and I don’t want to know who…)

  90. E.M.Smith says:

    Fascinating….

    The .onion domain has the stuff hidden in the onion network Dark Web space. Normally one must use a Tor browser and paste in the peculiar URLs it uses AND know what they are first.

    Seems that to increase traffic and visibility ( yeah, an oxymoron if ever there was one for the Dark Web and the expected customer…) a site was built that acts as a proxy to .onion TLD sites:

    Tor2Web

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor2web

    Well, just for grins, I decided to test it. A quick web search for “the hidden wiki tor address” gave me the basic address: http://www.thehiddenwiki.net/access-the-hidden-wiki/

    After instructing how to install the Tor router / gateway and all it has:

    The Final step to access the hidden wiki is to paste this url to tor browser: http://zqktlwi4fecvo6ri.onion/wiki/

    Now doing the stated process to use tor2web which is to swap .onion out and .tor2web.io in:

    https://zqktlwi4fecvo6ri.tor2web.io/wiki/

    And in Safari I entered that (since nothing I care about is in my Safari history and Safari is more forgiving about cert issues) and bingo! up it comes.

    Welcome to The Hidden Wiki New hidden wiki url 2018 https://zqktlwi4fecvo6ri.tor2web.io Add it to bookmarks and spread it!!!!
    Editor’s picks

    Pick a random page from the article index and replace one of these slots with it:
    The Matrix – Very nice to read.
    How to Exit the Matrix – Learn how to Protect yourself and your rights, online and off.
    Verifying PGP signatures – A short and simple how-to guide.
    In Praise Of Hawala – Anonymous informal value transfer system.
    Terrific Strategies To Apply A Social media Marketing Approach – Great tips for the internet marketer.
    Volunteer

    As this is the index to “services” in the .onion domain, it means you can set up an isolated box / card / system and easily with just a regular browser look around and see what’s there. (Thus is another YASP born… )

    Well, maybe some other day… Time to start thinking about making dinner ;-)

  91. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmmm on twitter President Trump teased this book yesterday saying it would be out in 5 weeks.

    The Russia Hoax by Gregg Jarrett
    That means it will hit the street right around July 4th.

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump
    23 hours ago
    The soon to be released book, “The Russia Hoax, The Illicit Scheme To Clear Hillary Clinton And Frame Donald Trump,” written by Gregg Jarrett, looks like a real deal big hit. The Phony Witch Hunt will be opened up for the world to see! Out in 5 weeks.

    It is available for pre-order on Amazon.
    Knowing his marketing acumen, I suspect this is the opening volley for pre-election a media blitz on the Democrats and likely timed to match up with the pending report releases and maybe even indictments.

    The next few months could get really exciting.

  92. jim2 says:

    I’ve been crazy busy this year. I hope I can eventually get a big chunk of time to set up firewalls and a DNS server. Those VPN and other privacy-enhancing tools look worthwhile.

  93. jim2 says:

    What if you are a peer in a dark web network and your machine is used to transfer something illegal? Are you protected?

  94. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    Up for a challenge?

    “Kinky Keith
    June 1, 2018 at 3:26 pm · Reply

    If someone in California, a “friend” perhaps, can’t cream off one million out of that US$768 million, I’ll eat my hat.

    I would suspect that the eco dividend may even run to one hundred million.

    On top of the ripoff you have to acknowledge that all of this CO2 scrimping does absolutely nothing for the Vironment.”

    CO2 has no effect on world temperature.”

    http://joannenova.com.au/2018/06/turnbull-govt-proposes-carbon-tax-on-new-cars-to-keep-old-cars-on-the-road-and-increase-pollution/#comment-2009887

    Start upthread a bit at one of Pat’s posts

  95. jim2 says:

    Here’s one “highest on record” that actually means something.

    “U.S. crude oil production jumped 215,000 barrels per day (bbl/d) to 10.47 million bbl/d in March, the highest on record, the Energy Information Administration (EIA) said in a monthly report on May 31.”

    https://www.oilandgasinvestor.com/report-us-oil-output-jumps-record-high-march-1704031

  96. jim2 says:

    Idiot Mayor Bloomberg is on CBS This Morning praising China’s ‘forward looking’ policies. Idiot.

  97. H.R. says:

    @jim2: I think Bloomberg is just jealous that Xi could appoint himself ‘President for Life’ and he can’t appoint himself ‘Hizzonor for Life.’

  98. E.M.Smith says:

    Bloomberg is your standard garden variety Progressive Leftist. Strongly for Central Authority. LOVES power. LOVES government direction of the economy. A good “3rd Way Man”. Of course he will have praise for China. It converted from Communism (International Socialism in the Stalinist mould) to “3rd Way” or “National Socialism” (in the Mussolini mould).

    Remember that Fellow Traveler Progressives were all in love with Mussolini for the first dozen years or so of his reign. He was celebrated by Hollywood (got a cameo in a Hollywood movie even). Praised by the likes of F.D. Roosevelt. “Made the trains run on time” and all that stuff.

    It was only AFTER he got tied up with Hitler and we had that W.W.II thing that his reputation was changed to that of horrible person…

    For me, it is absolutely no surprise at all when a Progressive Leftist wants Central Authority to “Plan” the economy. Or praise others who do so. It is just what they love.

    It also works for a while. There are always a lot of “issues” in an unplanned economy that have accumulated over the years that can be “cleaned up” by your garden variety “strong man” in charge. Confiscate wealth from this guy, give it to those folks, mandate the train schedule (and jail time for the guy who misses it…).

    The problems accumulate over time to the other side of the ledger, so it’s a few decades before you get to the Venezuela end of things. Look at the history of Brazil. About a 20 year half cycle as they wobble between states. Innovation slows. Folks don’t build new companies when they know they will just be told what to do (and their wealth building confiscated) in the end anyway. Union power (one of the things “3rd Way Economics” pushes for to excess) eventually removes profit from the structure and over time private investment slows or halts. Government “investment” eventually becomes grossly mis-allocated as it ends up directed to line the pockets of Dear Leader and Cronies (see ‘ghost cities’ in China today) and over time the economy falters. The push to hand out “goodies” results in inevitable extreme inflation (see a hundred examples but Argentina has ahd a couple and then Zimbabwe and now Venezuela and many more). IIRC, Greece and Italy have done a cycle or two.

    So yeah, he’s just “doing what they do”… and praising a fellow traveler.

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  100. Larry Ledwick says:

    Fun video on how cloud flare creates lots of very high quality random numbers.

  101. jim2 says:

    “Kevin Brock agrees that Congress has legitimate questions. The retired FBI assistant director for intelligence supervised the rewriting of bureau rules governing sources, under then-director Robert Mueller a decade ago. Those rules forbid the FBI from directing a human source to target an American until a formally predicated investigative file is opened.

    Brock sees oddities in how the Russia case began. “These types of investigations aren’t normally run by assistant directors and deputy directors at headquarters,” he told me. “All that happens normally in a field office, but that isn’t the case here and so it becomes a red flag. Congress would have legitimate oversight interests in the conditions and timing of the targeting of a confidential human source against a U.S. person.””

    http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/390228-london-bridges-falling-down-curious-origins-of-fbis-trump-russia-probe

  102. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    ” Willis Eschenbach
    June 1, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    AWESOME! The new WordPress has an edit function for the first five minutes. Brilliant.

    w. ”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/06/mlo-and-mei/#comment-2368084

    That is similar to SDA now

  103. Another Ian says:

    Latest Pointman

    “About the November mid-terms.”

    https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2018/06/01/about-the-november-mid-terms/

  104. H.R. says:

    Hey, y’all! I just watched a wild turkey make his way across our back yard. It was about noon local time. That was way cool!

    They are established in the State park next door, where I have seen them on rare occasion, but in the 18 years we’ve been here, I’ve never seen them venture into our neighborhood. It looked to me to be a young tom. Perhaps it’s getting crowded in the park and he’s trying to scout out new territory.

    The missus has hummingbird feeders, a finch feeder, suet for the woodpeckers, and a mixed seed feeder for the rest of the birds (and one FAT-assed chipmunk that the dogs can’t catch). I guess she’ll start putting out feed for wild turkeys.

    Hmmm… just thought about the household food budget
    Dry and wet food for two dogs
    Dry and wet food for two cats
    Hummy feed
    Finch feed
    Suet cakes
    Bird feed, 50# bags at a time
    Koi feed (the biggest is pushing 3 pounds)
    Soon to be added turkey feed
    .
    .
    And the rest of the food budget is for us.

    Can’t quite put my finger on it, but something is wrong with this picture 😜

  105. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    What’s wrong? I’ll tell ya!

    Where’s the rabbit feed!?

    ;-)

  106. ossqss says:

    I think there may be potential for an ROI on the turkey feed and a possible salt lick. Just sayin, 2 way street there ;-)

  107. Another Ian says:
  108. H.R. says:

    @E.M.: Rabbit feed? How do you think my lawn stays trimmed, elves? 😜

    @ossqss: The deer still follow their trail from farmland days that runs through my back yard. I’ve often contemplated getting a crossbow because I could sit at my kitchen table, sip on a cup of coffee, and with the patio door open have a 20 yard clear shot on any evening I cared to get some venison. The turkey is a first, though.

    The largest harem I’ve ever seen come through had just over 20 does and fawns. I planted two sapling maples to cover a gap in the back tree line and a buck used them for an antler rub, killing both trees. One winter, they came up on our front porch. Closest prints in the snow were within a foot of the front door. Our theory was they were trying to ring the doorbell to demand my wife put out more birdseed. The bird feeder was empty and needed a refill. In the winter, they knock all the seed out and eat it.

  109. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    That link goes to the WSJ that wants me to sign up to read it, so no can do.

    Did find a different interesting link further down (see article on Hillary and Email just posted) so 1/2 a H/T for getting to read the thread ;-)

  110. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    Some sort of discrimination there – I don’t get a subscription offer!

    A lot is what you read at Jo Nova. Towards the end are these bits

    “That matters because it is not how things are normally done. The U.S. is part of Five Eyes, an intelligence network that includes the U.K., Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The Five Eyes agreement provides that any intelligence goes through the intelligence system of the country that gathered it. This helps guarantee information is securely handled, subjected to quality control, and not made prey to political manipulation. Mr. Downer’s job was to report his meeting back to Canberra, and leave it to Australian intelligence. We also know that it wasn’t Australian intelligence that alerted the FBI. The document that launched the FBI probe contains no foreign intelligence whatsoever. So if Australian intelligence did receive the Downer info, it didn’t feel compelled to act on it.

    But the Obama State Department did—and its involvement is news. The Downer details landed with the embassy’s then-chargé d’affaires, Elizabeth Dibble, who previously served as a principal deputy assistant secretary in Mrs. Clinton’s State Department.”

    “When did all this happen, and what came next? Did the info go straight to U.S. intelligence? Or did it instead filter to the wider State Department team, who we already know were helping foment Russia-Trump conspiracy theories? Jonathan Winer, a former deputy assistant secretary of state, has publicly admitted to communicating in the summer of 2016 with his friend Christopher Steele, author of the infamous dossier.”

    “Meanwhile, something doesn’t gel between Mr. Downer’s account of the conversation and the FBI’s. In his Australian interview, Mr. Downer said Mr. Papadopolous didn’t give specifics. “He didn’t say dirt, he said material that could be damaging to her,” said Mr. Downer. “He didn’t say what it was.” Also: “Nothing he said in that conversation indicated Trump himself had been conspiring with the Russians to collect information on Hillary Clinton.”

    For months we’ve been told the FBI acted because it was alarmed that Mr. Papadopoulos knew about those hacked Democratic emails in May, before they became public in June. But according to the tipster himself, Mr. Papadopoulos said nothing about emails. The FBI instead received a report that a far-removed campaign adviser, over drinks, said the Russians had something that might be “damaging” to Hillary. Did this vague statement justify a counterintelligence probe into a presidential campaign, featuring a spy and secret surveillance warrants?

    Unlikely. Which leads us back to what did inspire the FBI to act, and when? The Papadopoulos pretext is getting thinner.”

  111. p.g.sharrow says:

    @HR; you might enjoy this essay about “The Bird Feeder”;
    https://pgtruspace.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/bird-feeding/
    No good deed goes unpunished. ;-( …pg

  112. H.R. says:

    @p.g.: before going to read at your link, I wanted to mention that I thought of your property while I was writing and the animal parade you must see. Thing is, I’m in the ‘burbs.’

    Wildlife is great, so long as you can go back to your Manhattan apartment where they don’t eat everything in sight and kill little Fluffy if you don’t keep an eye out.

    Clicking your link now…

  113. H.R. says:

    @p.g. – I’m back. Nice!
    Now I want to know what idiot snowflake puts out rattlesnake food
    Might be quite a few, but none of them live to write about it. 😜

  114. Larry Ledwick says:

    I think this is the same article minus all the images and crap:


    By Kimberley A. Strassel May 31, 2018 7:24 p.m. ET

    To hear the Federal Bureau of Investigation tell it, its decision to launch a counterintelligence probe into a major-party presidential campaign comes down to a foreign tip about a 28-year-old fourth-tier Trump adviser, George Papadopoulos.

    The FBI’s media scribes have dutifully reported the bare facts of that “intel.” We are told the infamous tip came from Alexander Downer, at the time the Australian ambassador to the U.K. Mr. Downer invited Mr. Papadopoulos for a drink in early May 2016, where the aide told the ambassador the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton. Word of this encounter at some point reached the FBI, inspiring it to launch its counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign on July 31.

    Notably (nay, suspiciously) absent or muddled are the details of how and when that information made its way to the FBI, and what exactly was transmitted. A December 2017 New York Times story vaguely explains that the Australians passed the info to “American counterparts” about “two months later,” and that once it “reached the FBI,” the bureau acted. Even the Times admits it’s “not clear” why it took the Aussies so long to flip such a supposedly smoking tip. The story meanwhile slyly leads readers to believe that Mr. Papadopoulos told Mr. Downer that Moscow had “thousands of emails,” but read it closely and the Times in fact never specifies what the Trump aide said, beyond “dirt.”

    When Mr. Downer ended his service in the U.K. this April, he sat for an interview with the Australian, a national newspaper, and “spoke for the first time” about the Papadopoulos event. Mr. Downer said he officially reported the Papadopoulos meeting back to Australia “the following day or a day or two after,” as it “seemed quite interesting.” The story nonchalantly notes that “after a period of time, Australia’s ambassador to the US, Joe Hockey, passed the information on to Washington.”

    My reporting indicates otherwise. A diplomatic source tells me Mr. Hockey neither transmitted any information to the FBI nor was approached by the U.S. about the tip. Rather, it was Mr. Downer who at some point decided to convey his information—to the U.S. Embassy in London.

    That matters because it is not how things are normally done. The U.S. is part of Five Eyes, an intelligence network that includes the U.K., Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The Five Eyes agreement provides that any intelligence goes through the intelligence system of the country that gathered it. This helps guarantee information is securely handled, subjected to quality control, and not made prey to political manipulation. Mr. Downer’s job was to report his meeting back to Canberra, and leave it to Australian intelligence. We also know that it wasn’t Australian intelligence that alerted the FBI. The document that launched the FBI probe contains no foreign intelligence whatsoever. So if Australian intelligence did receive the Downer info, it didn’t feel compelled to act on it.

    But the Obama State Department did—and its involvement is news. The Downer details landed with the embassy’s then-chargé d’affaires, Elizabeth Dibble, who previously served as a principal deputy assistant secretary in Mrs. Clinton’s State Department.

    When did all this happen, and what came next? Did the info go straight to U.S. intelligence? Or did it instead filter to the wider State Department team, who we already know were helping foment Russia-Trump conspiracy theories? Jonathan Winer, a former deputy assistant secretary of state, has publicly admitted to communicating in the summer of 2016 with his friend Christopher Steele, author of the infamous dossier.

    I was unable to reach Mr. Downer for comment and do not know why he chose to go to the embassy. A conservative politician, he was Australia’s longest-serving foreign minister (1996-2007). Sources speculate that he might have felt his many contacts justified reaching out himself.

    Meanwhile, something doesn’t gel between Mr. Downer’s account of the conversation and the FBI’s. In his Australian interview, Mr. Downer said Mr. Papadopolous didn’t give specifics. “He didn’t say dirt, he said material that could be damaging to her,” said Mr. Downer. “He didn’t say what it was.” Also: “Nothing he said in that conversation indicated Trump himself had been conspiring with the Russians to collect information on Hillary Clinton.”

    For months we’ve been told the FBI acted because it was alarmed that Mr. Papadopoulos knew about those hacked Democratic emails in May, before they became public in June. But according to the tipster himself, Mr. Papadopoulos said nothing about emails. The FBI instead received a report that a far-removed campaign adviser, over drinks, said the Russians had something that might be “damaging” to Hillary. Did this vague statement justify a counterintelligence probe into a presidential campaign, featuring a spy and secret surveillance warrants?

    Unlikely. Which leads us back to what did inspire the FBI to act, and when? The Papadopoulos pretext is getting thinner.

    Reproduced under fair use “news”

  115. Larry Ledwick says:

    Just for grins here are a couple videos – a C-17 accidentally landed on the wrong airport with only a 3500 ft runway. More interestingly General McMattis was on board the plane at the time.
    This happened back in 2013, but I just stumbled across it.

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/military/macdill/air-force-blames-pilot-fatigue-for-c-17-landing-4-miles-from-macdill/1272014

    The landing

    The takeoff in the cool evening.

  116. H.R. says:

    @Larry: When I worked at McDonnell-Douglas, the nose section of a C-17 was sitting just off the aisle on the way to another production area. I walked over and it was marked #1 – wasn’t in a black area or anything – so I gave the nose assembly a rub and a pat., just to have the story to tell some day.

    Well, it’s 29 years later and I’m telling the story 😁

    P.S. For one little project, I had to determine the number of rivets of various types that were used to assemble an F-15 before I could move on to my actual task. Finishing up, I began to suspect that the F-15 was actually made of rivets held together by odd bits of formed, perforated sheet metal and not the other way around. 😆😆

  117. ossqss says:

    Hey @HR, considering stories, I pulled an old saved blog link up tonight as I was cleaning up an older device and saw you had the 2nd to last post on it asking about fish stories (if that was you in 2014 ;-)).

    I was fishing with Watts in Tampabay and we indeed caught lots of fish. Some biggy Reds in fact. Unfortunately, the Reds have become scarce in the last couple years. Even talked with some high level Fed fisheries folks about it at a party last week. Have you caught any lately?

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/gone-fishing-open-thtead/#comment-1385834

  118. H.R. says:

    I found this album of WWI images on imgur.

    At the end of the first 7 or 8 images is a button to load 107 more images. Worth it, for history and WWI buffs. My grandfather made it through the battle of the Argonne Forest.
    https://imgur.com/gallery/vHjjPtJ

  119. ossqss says:

    This was a facinating and enlightening show relating to the same topic. If you have it on your cable subscription, you may be able to access it on demand. Many of the cable channel apps permit that as long as you have a login for your account with the cable provider. This does not appear to do so that I could find on first look.

    https://www.ahctv.com/tv-shows/world-war-ii-in-color/

  120. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting summary of the chain of events that appear to have occurred as the investigation of possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia was initiated.

    Short version – the development of the case was very unusual and out of bounds.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/the-real-reason-why-the-fbi-had-a-spy-in-the-trump-campaign/

  121. H.R. says:

    @ossqss: That’s me. I’ve been posting as H.R. for years, long before I started posting on WUWT in 2008.

    Never did get the fish stories from Anthony. I’ll try to locate and post a picture of my wife with a nice 40# red she caught. It’s not on this computer, but when I run across it, I’ll post.

  122. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hold on to your hat in Hawaii, drone footage showing the Kilauea volcano vent is now blocked by collapse rubble. Geologists are not sure it this could be good (stop the current eruption phase) or destructive (lead to a pressure build up and new large explosions at the summit.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/968525/Hawaii-volcano-eruption-drone-aerial-footage-cracks-Kilauea-lava-magma

  123. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    What species is “a red”? (And how do I catch one? :-)

    @Larry:

    I’d not read much into a “blockage”. Remember that old volcanoes have lava erode its way up through miles of rock…

    IMHO, what’s most likely is that the side started leaking (“fissures”) and the standing column leaked out, causing the tumble of the solid bits up top and some spalling off the sides. This crap will be sitting on top of the rising column of liquid that’s taking the side exit to the “fissures”. Nothing will happen as long as it keeps flowing out that way.

    Once the “fissures” clog up, then the main vent pressure will build and we’ll either get a big blow (breaks up low crust, gasses come out of solution, depressurized column goes nuts) or a slow refilling (lid kept on column as gradual pressure rise raises lava lake under floating cap to refill).

    Personally, I’d like to see it blow a good one, and then reform the historic lava lake that’s about 20 times larger than the one we had in the main crater this time… Note the big smooth old lava lake area around the very small smoking hole…

  124. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting drug interactions, apparently taking antibiotics with some cancer treatments drastically reduces the effectiveness of the cancer drugs.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/02/cancer-antibiotics-immunotherapy-treatment-study

  125. H.R. says:

    @E.M.: Red Drum aka redfish aka reds aka spot tails

    Here’s a link to an article with IFGA records with lots of nice photos.
    https://www.sportfishingmag.com/largest-redfish-in-the-world-igfa#page-9

    When blackened redfish became popular on every menu, they were almost fished out. Slot limits were instituted and in Florida, any redfish under 18″ and over 27″ goes back in the water.

  126. jim2 says:

    The nationalists in Italy finally managed to form a government after encountering resistance. Looks like it may be a good turn of events. From the article:

    ROME (AP) — Italy’s new populist leaders commemorated the founding of the Italian republic by attending a pomp-filled military parade Saturday — and then promised to get to work creating jobs and expelling migrants.

    “The free ride is over,” League leader Matteo Salvini, Italy’s new interior minister, warned migrants at a rally in northern Italy. “It’s time to pack your bags.”

    https://apnews.com/2c3771ee21c045c3ac87c1d6369f89fc/New-Italian-govt-vows-to-create-jobs,-deport-migrants

  127. E.M.Smith says:

    @Jim2:

    Yeah, I’ve been watching Italy. Still not clear why the President could nix the Prime Minister pick or why they have both… It is fun watching the Soros / Globalist / Destroy Nations folks all panties in a bunch over it ;-)

    They were pushing for a ‘do over’ on the election until the news started saying Italians were getting pissed and might vote even more to dump the Euro / EU… then suddenly everyone was happy with the P.M/ pick this time…

  128. Larry Ledwick says:

    I think we are seeing a slow shift in public perception, folks are waking up to how much of what they see is being manipulated by outside sources with an agenda.

    As a result folks are starting to shut down that sort of media presence. They are turning off tracking, blocking ads, and not taking any “news” at face value. Like the boy who cried wolf the manipulators have been caught too many times in egregious lies or misrepresentations of fact.
    News has been outed as the modern payola scam where the news is brought to you by the highest bidder or the highest click count rather than quality and value to the consumer.

    They have basically killed the golden goose by over playing their hand.

  129. Larry Ledwick says:

    Everything you ever wanted to know about world steel production.

    World steel production today is almost 10x what is was in 1950.
    China produces almost 50% of the world’s steel production (translate that into strategic significance in war time, in a full out war economy china could out produce the entire world in manufacture of military equipment.

    They are already showing signs of beginning a sprint of military hardware which will make them untouchable in the western pacific in just a decade or two. They are about to change from being the 600# canary in the coal mine to the 800# gorilla of military capability.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/380893748/World-Steel-Production-2018

  130. jim2 says:

    @Larry Ledwick says: 3 June 2018 at 10:00 pm

    ” They are about to change from being the 600# canary in the coal mine to the 800# gorilla of military capability.”

    And it’s due in a major part on the desire of Americans for cheap goods, and for companies to have China make the stuff and sell it here for a huge profit.

  131. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry:

    I’ve generally depended on my modest “migration” rate from browser to browser on system to system to clear up things like cookies and beacons and trackers, slowly over time.

    Well, on the Mac, I just went through the exercise of preening cookies. It was a bit of a surprise.

    Now I have to say I’ve used it for about a year now without “moving on” or installing a new OS (as it only has the one last supported image available). My “put Linux on it” goal has been left adrift. So more has accumulated than I’d expected.

    I was very surprised by just now much faster a browser launch runs once the crap has been tossed out! (Probably in large part due to repeated cookie / cache returns to the SD card I’m using as “disk”). So yeah, a whole lot o’ trakin’ goiing on…

    I’ve now got it set so that Safari has had all cookies removed and will not accept any. It will be used for “variety browsing”. It also has Javascript turned off. Essentially locked down the most, the less likely browser to be targeted by any hackers anyway, and if it works, well, fine. If not, I’m happy to “move on” to:

    Opera (beta) that was the newest one I could find “back then”. I may see if something newer is out, but I suspect that the age of this OS is likely limiting. It has Javascript turned off, but does accept cookies. It will flush ALL cookies at the end of a session, so not much state kept “going forward”; but for those places who just DEMAND a cookie or you get nothing (“No cookie? Bad cop!” Oh, wait… ;-) It will be usable.

    Then finally FireFox. I’ve left Javascript turned on and persistent cookies, but I’m going to be pruning them more often. Why? Some sites (like buying things and such) use Javascript and cookies. So I either need to be re-validated each time (one via a text to my cell phone of a dual authentication token) or let it have a cookie…

    But going through the exercise and seeing LOTS of “name names” like CNN, The NY Times, etc. etc. drove home the point of who is using whom… Some were from companies where I’d last read their rag a year or so ago… with expiration dates set decades in the future.

    So now, as you noted, I’m “turning off tracking” more aggressively.

    (Partly it was due to this laptop being the one that goes out of the house and from behind my defenses of DNS grounding, route killing, etc. etc. But still…)

    Then there is just that it’s hard now NOT to notice things like how many folks are suddenly showing up on “news” programs from Federal TLAs with ties to Clinton or Obama… So today, again for example, I started my day with an attempt at watching ABC News on the Roku. Right out the gate it was Trump Bashing. I scrolled down the list of stories and saw nothing of interest. The volcano news was from last week… So I watched RT instead. Nice in depth interview of an Italian guy (big in their government though I’ve forgotten his particulars – was just starting morning coffee ;-) about what the election in Italy means. Real content. They had a wonderful bit with a reporter that accompanied their Ambassador (Lavarov?) to the Palace of Kim Jon Bombboy in North Korea. We got a visual tour of his place. The only reporter allowed to do that. He was a bit ‘giddy’ over it too ;-) Kim uses what looks like late ’80s or early ’90s Mercedes SDL limos, BTW. Black. One of my favorite cars of all time (though I like the white best…)

    I’ve gone from almost 100% USA news (dominated by FOX, CNN, and MSNBC in about a 1/3, 1/3, 1/6 ratio) with 1/6 ‘dips’ into alternate shows like Al Jazeera or RT, to an almost complete abandon of the “majors”. I’ve substituted the “30 minute” Reuters feed for all of them (as they largely will have the same “story” anyway) and even then can skip about 1/2 the segments as they are just Trump Bashing. So a 5 minute session will have 1/2 minute of “Trump did this today” and then start in on “Oh, the unfortunate incompetence of it all..” and I know the news portion is over and the Concern Troll portion has begun and just skip to the next segment…

    The ability of internet news and internet TV to let me choose individual stories AND how much of them to watch is another factor in the demise of the effectiveness of the propaganda. So now, even when I do “watch” ABC, it’s not 1/2 hour of whatever their editor decides must cross my eyeballs. It’s 10 minutes out of 3 hours of presented choices edited by me and my remote…

    I’ve also gotten much more interested in the “local news” from remote places ;-) NewsON is a treat. So I get to have great Hawaiian coverage of the volcano status from folks who care and are interested in details (like just what evacuations are being done) and can skip the “anti-gun rant” from the nationals just focusing on one dumb guy using a gun to scare off what he thought was a looter but was really a neighbor he didn’t now (now in jail for it…) Hawaii also has surfing conditions in their weather report ;-) The “local” Florida news reports on the swells and fishing conditions instead 8-) while Chicago news has more on the significant weather and what concerts are lining up. ABC channels have presenters that seem to fit the pattern of “One each man and woman, at least one and preferably both minorities, with the most amazingly plastic smiles”… Seeing what we locally call “shit eating grins” as someone happy talks about the number killed in a shooting in south Chicago is a bit strange ;-0 but they seem to be under orders to smile and keep the spin Disney Positive! no matter the story. Other stations are more “homey”. With less plastic people and more real folks just saying what’s happening there.

    So something goes bump in, say Dallas, I’m not going to watch NBC or MSNBC warp it into some dogma box; I’m going to “tune in” the Dallas stations on the Roku and get it straight from the locals.

    I really do think that the rise of things like the Roku and Apps for news is going to change in a big way what can and what can’t be spun. Just running any foreign news source vs USA gives a big perspective. Picking one NOT “in the club” especially.

  132. E.M.Smith says:

    Speaking of local Hawaiian news:

    The lava has over run and evaporated “Green Lake the largest lake in Hawaii”…

    https://onlyinhawaii.org/green-lake-kapoho-hawaii/

    https://mapcarta.com/24056108

  133. ossqss says:

    Good golly! And we thought the Blob was just a SiFi movie!

  134. p.g.sharrow says:

    Latest USGS- HVO report

    Lower East Rift Zone, Leilani Estates and Lanipuna Gardens.
    Fissure 8 fountaining persisted throughout the night,as high as 260 feet over ground level, and the channelized flow continued to deliver lava northeast along Highway 132 to the Kapoho area. Lava is advancing along a 0.5-mile-wide front towards the ocean at Kapoho Bay between Kapoho Beach Road and Kapoho Kai Drive. As of 7:30 AM HST, the lava flow was about 430 yards from the ocean. Other branches of the Fissure 8 lava flow were inactive.
    All other fissures are inactive, although Fissure 9 is steaming heavily.

    Kilauea
    Earthquake activity at the summit was high overnight, and it is possible that a small explosion, much like those that have occurred during the past two weeks, will take place in the next day. Ash emissions are low as revealed by webcam views this morning. Volcanic gas emissions at the summit remain high….pg

  135. p.g.sharrow says:


    let’s see if this will display here…pg

  136. E.M.Smith says:

    As soon as that Vacationland flow reaches the sea, that whole point is cut off with a Y of lava flows on each side. They were making a temporary escape road over some of it (bulldozers and graders making a one way ‘gravel from cooled lava’ road out.

    i hope most everyone is out of that “pincers” area or at least has some high ground they can get to and a gas mask…

    The “good news” is that the lava flows slowly enough you can walk away from it. The bad news is that now that walk may be through thickets and with fences in the way; and it is not clear to where you can go to get out…

    The military (air national guard?) was ready with helicopters for evacuation, so that’s an option too. But IMHO anyone paying attention ought to have driven out when they could. I’ll be watching the nightly local Hawaiian news and I’m sure they will cover it.

  137. E.M.Smith says:

    Hawaiian news reports 3 people air lifted out, flow front 1/2 mile wide and 400 yards from beach..

    There was a 5.5 quake at the summit and 500 quakes in the last 24 hours.

    This thing isn’t settling down…

  138. Larry Ledwick says:

    Falcon 9 SES12 launch in progress
    http://www.spacex.com/webcast

  139. Larry Ledwick says:

    Second stage cutoff one has completed, now will coast for 17 minutes before next burn.
    (10:54 mdt time +17)

  140. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmm this is going to get interesting!

    SalenaZito
    ‏Verified account
    @SalenaZito
    54 minutes ago

    The U.S. Supreme court in a 7-2 ruling has delivered a win for religious liberty advocates, ruling that a Colorado baker may refuse to bake custom wedding cakes for same-sex couples. #SCOTUS

    I wonder if service businesses which have been put out of business by malicious discrimination charges will file suit now.

    I find it interesting that the AP claims this was a situation where the “court finds narrowly for the baker” when the decision was 7 – 2. That is not a narrow decision. It was only on part of the issues to be decided but the headline is grossly misleading.

    https://apnews.com/459b5e723c4c47ffa40df839097503c9/Justices-side-with-Colorado-baker-on-same-sex-wedding-cake

  141. E.M.Smith says:

    Fuego volcano in Guatemala has erupted with pyroclastic flows killing dozens (exact number unknown as some of the roads are under lava…) It sent a 5 mile run of lava out when the capital city is only 25 miles away. Something like a 9 mile ash fall radius.

    I wonder if it’s time to start a closer watch on Volcano Status. I count 33 actively erupting on this list:

    https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/erupting_volcanoes.html

    It seems to me the total used to be closer to 20.. So more erupting or better reporting?

  142. Another Ian says:
  143. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:

    Oliver McGee PhD MBA
    ‏@OliverMcGee

    Trump Growth is Top 3!
    LBJ (‘64-68) 5.3%
    JFK (‘61-63) 4.3%
    Clinton (‘93-00) 3.9%
    Reagan (‘81-88) 3.5%
    Carter (‘77-80) 3.3%
    IKE (‘53-60) 3.0%
    Nixon (‘69-74) 2.8%
    Ford (‘75-76) 2.6%
    Bush1 (‘89-92) 2.3%
    Bush2 (‘01-08) 2.1%
    Truman (‘46-52) 1.7%
    Obama (‘09-16) 1.5%
    Trump ‘18 Est 4.8%

  144. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry:

    Um, doesn’t 4.8 come in just behind the 5.3 of LBJ (Largely inherited from the JFK move to reduce taxes and giveaways…) making Trump #2 so far?

    @All:

    Trump sited over target! Clearly Spot ON!

    Thanks to my new exterior antenna, I’m watching GCTN Global CHINA (something) Network.

    They have REPEATEDLY and with VIGOR denounced Tariffs! Saying things like “we’ll negotiate BUT all bets are OFF if tariffs remain…”. They DO NOT LIKE Tariffs and are talking dirt about them 8 ways from Sunday. The Tumpster is ON TARGET and DROPPING A LOAD!!!!

    Weee Haawwww!!!!

  145. Larry Ledwick says:

    LBJ was also very much influenced by the great society spending and Vietnam expenditures, JFK likewise was driven by space race expenditures I suspect, so President Trump is setting new bench marks, especially if he can sustain these numbers for a while.

  146. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes 2nd place but in the top three, poor wording on the original posters part.

  147. Larry Ledwick says:

    Oh images from space for a moment there I thought someone was reporting a volcano headed our way from outer space. ;)

  148. p.g.sharrow says:

    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/observatories/hvo/hvo_earthquakes.html
    this should display and be interactive, I hope

    In the last week the numbers and size of quakes have increased and depth as decreased. Doubled in numbers over the last week along the East Rift, now the height of #8 fountain has dropped to 120 feet. My WAG is that the south side of the rift is beginning to open and fill down 4 to 2 miles. When the lava fountains stop get ready to run! …pg

  149. ossqss says:

    For those who watch the tropical Atlantic.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De76FQ8X4AAuG-L?format=jpg

  150. E.M.Smith says:

    I want to see the video when that Volcano from space “splats” into the Earth. Any bets on Ocean vs Land? Can we aim it at D.C.? ;-)

    Neat temperature graph. Where’s it from?

    Yeah, that whole DNA thing is a PITA. Some unknown semi-relative is dumb enough to spit in a tube to find out there are human and in the process assure their relatives can NEVER get a job as a spy with a cover story…

  151. Another Ian says:

    “Delingpole: The Archbishop of Canterbury Has a Bad Case of Brexit Derangement Syndrome”

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/06/05/archbishop-canterbury-praises-eu-utterly-insane-speech/

    “Really, though. What can possibly have possessed him to make the risible claim that the European Union is “the greatest dream realised for human beings since the fall of the Western Roman Empire”?”

    For starters

  152. ossqss says:

    Graph is from Levi’s site. He does tremendous work on integration of data and graphics at FSU.

    https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/

  153. Another Ian says:

    “Why Communism Always Devolves Into Heavy-Handed Authoritarianism”

    http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2018/06/why-communism-always-devolves-into-heavy-handed-authoritarianism.html

    “People’s Republic of California”

  154. E.M.Smith says:

    Looks like the Miss America Pageant is going PC and losing 1/2 the audience.

    Quoting their new leader, Gretchen Carlson, it’s no longer a pageant, it’s a competition, and they don’t care what someone looks like they care what “comes out of their mouth”.

    So “good looks” are out “mouthing the right stuff” is in. OK, good to know, no longer need to watch.

  155. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well this is an interesting stat from twitter
    Brian Wesbury
    ‏@wesbury

    Job openings in the US now exceed the total number of unemployed by 352,000. New JOLTS data out this morning show 6.698 million job openings in April, while the total number of unemployed civilians was 6.346 million.

    So with more job openings than unemployed are we about to see negative unemployment? (j/k)

  156. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry:

    So you tellin’ me to go get a job?

    8-0

  157. Larry Ledwick says:

    The President’s admin just put up a “brag sheet” website that lists his administrations accomplishments.

    https://www.promiseskept.com/

    Good to see an effort to create a bypass to the media to get the info out to the public.

  158. p.g.sharrow says:

    The YSM is having a fit over Trump daily bypassing them with his postings direct to the people.
    They are reduced to inventing news stories and looking foolish as their exposes are exposed.
    Even “Republican” talking heads are griping about his bypassing of the need for their babble.
    The Trump team seems to be making the most of this new media, both for talking as well as listening to the people. …pg

  159. Larry Ledwick says:

    So you tellin’ me to go get a job?

    No sounds like you have a pretty good gig going but with these numbers just about anyone who can breath and chew gum should be able to get a job. Given the last time we had job numbers like this as during the Y2K and IT boom.

  160. jim2 says:

    What with Social Security tapping the reserve fund this year, a lot of people may end up needing a job they didn’t anticipate.

  161. H.R. says:

    @jim2: What?!? You’re saying they opened the SS ‘lock box’ and it was empty? /s

    Here’s a nice recap, by Richard E. Wagner, of the Social Security ‘lock box’ that Al Gore spoke of back in 2000, for the non-US readers here.

    http://www.virginiainstitute.org/viewpoint/_vvwagner.html

    (Richard E. Wagner is Holbert Harris Professor of Economics at George Mason University, and a member of the Board of Scholars of the Virginia Institute for Public Policy, and education and research organization headquartered in Potomac Falls, Virginia. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is hereby granted, provided the author and his affiliations are cited.)

  162. philjourdan says:

    Pardon me if this is not appropriate content and feel free to clip the post, but I thought Planet of the Apes was about the primates in an alternate world evolving into thinking beings that rivaled the humans. What did I miss. Perhaps it was the reboot I didn’t see.

    That was the reboot. The original (Charlton Heston, Roddy McDowell) was about apes evolving in a post apocalyptic world – this one. Gorillas are the war mongers, Chimps are the scientists, and Orangutans are the politicians.

  163. philjourdan says:

    “So you tellin’ me to go get a job?”

    No EM, you got a job. Keeping us educated with your commentary! :-)

  164. philjourdan says:

    “anyone who can breath and chew gum should be able to get a job.”

    @Larry – yep! My grandson has had almost a dozen over the past 2 years (he is not fired, he quits – gets bored with them). And good paying ones! That is why I look askance at the beggers on the street corners standing on 2 good legs and asking for change. There are a LOT of jobs around for those who really want to work.

  165. Larry Ledwick says:

    That is why I look askance at the beggers on the street corners standing on 2 good legs and asking for change.

    They are doing that because if they play the part right and have a good location they can pull down a couple hundred dollars tax free a day.

    There have been a couple news items I have seen where a homeless street corner pan handler was arrested for some minor charge and found to have a large wad of cash worth thousands of dollars squirreled away in his back pack.

  166. philjourdan says:

    @Larry –

    There have been a couple news items I have seen where a homeless street corner pan handler was arrested for some minor charge and found to have a large wad of cash worth thousands of dollars squirreled away in his back pack.

    I know. I use to work downtown in this city and there were a lot of them around. One day I saw one walk over to “all day parking” around 6pm and get into a Mercedes (not an old junker like the kind EM has) and drive off after a day of pan handling.

    It did upset me. But I just ignore it now.

  167. jim2 says:

    I just had a thought so bone chilling, I hesitate to put it here. But if I’ve thought of it, probably those who get paid to think of it have.

    What if the government starts digging up graves to sample bone marrow DNA?

  168. E.M.Smith says:

    @Jim2:

    They already do it, but only in criminal cases. It is a lot of work and expensive so unlikely to become a common thing. There’s also a few religions that go off the deep end about digging up the dead. (Muslims, Jews, and Catholics IIRC, likely more).

    It also is pretty dirty work. Even with embalming, eventually the bugs get their turn… so sometimes it’s only the teeth that have some DNA left and not all that good a quality. Modern hermetic caskets make this worse as the moisture is kept in so things end up soupy… Probably TMI…

  169. philjourdan says:

    @Another Ian – He almost gets it. A good column that does cover the issue, but is too narrow in conclusion.

  170. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I left a comment there…

  171. Another Ian says:

    “Delingpole: Finally, a UK Conservative Minister Declares War on Crony Capitalism”

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/06/07/delingpole-finally-uk-conservative-minister-declares-war-crony-capitalism/

  172. Larry Ledwick says:

    So finally Soros exposes his hand, massive migration was a club to beat Europe into spending money in Africa (where he probably has the infrastructure in place to skim those funds)

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/06/07/soros-demands-europe-give-africa-30-billion-euros-year/

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  174. jim2 says:

    The EU should just jail Soros and fine him his fortune, and give some of that to Africa. That would fix so much that is wrong in the World.

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