A video that looks at the impact of layering definition changes on top of each other and the insanity that is “Hate Crime”.
Looks like in part of the UK, if you talk to a woman and she doesn’t like it (i.e. you do not agree with her) you can go up on mysogeny and “hate crime”. If women thought it was hard to get men to talk before, well, it’s gonna get a whole lot more difficult.
Do I think this is a loony interpretation? No, not at all. Here in California, in Managers And The Law, I had legal training in what could be considered “sexual harassment”. It includes things like just looking at a woman or saying “Your hair looks nice today.” Seriously. Who is to decide if it was an offense? The person claiming an offense. That IS the legal standard in California. So I don’t doubt this applies in the UK as well.
I like the line, which I have thought myself, that this will result in a lot of women being alone and turning into Cat Ladies. I know that in California I will not EVER make ANY compliment to any woman (maybe excepting the spouse, depending on her mood).
Does contain some F-bombs, and some offensive other speech, so be advised. IF you might possibly be offended, chose not to “go there”. The video is largely just an animated graphic with voice over, so not a lot to read but some news clippings and photos of signs.
Now one other interesting thing this expansion of “Hate Crime” has not thought about. What happens when an Antifa member is blowing whistles or shouting in bullhorns and a woman is present? Realize this law lets ANYONE, even one NOT the woman in question, bring the case for harassment. It is certainly “unwanted engagement” and it IS directed at a woman, so by definition it IS a “Hate Crime” under this guideline.
They are hanging an awful lot on the idea that the Courts will be packed with liberal judges who will properly persecute the Evil Men and not prosecute the Antifa Members…
I would consider the video to be “crazy talk” but for the fact that I have had (Corporate paid for and mandatory) training on just such absurdity in California law.
BTW, I’m finding the “richness” of stuff on BitChute rather attractive. Saltier than what I usually set as my limit, but it is refreshing to hear other folks talking about seeing the same stuff I’ve seen.
So, women, over to you’all I guess. Figure out how to fix this kind of legal crap or start shopping for your next cat… and don’t bother with the beauty parlor / hair doo / new dress / whatever. Anyone with a brain will be scrupulously not noticing (and after a bit of practice not even caring either) since the alternative can be jail time. I learned to just treat all women as drones with no attractive qualities what so ever. It was required, after all. So “like it or change it”. Up to you.
Wellll…… If you ask a cat lady if you can borrow a cat to take care of your mouse problem, is that a hate crime? :-)
I have told my sons – I am SOOOOO glad I am not in the dating market!
So you are saying I need to be careful to not ask a Cat Lady if I can borrow her
pus..MOUSER for the evening?
E.M.: “I will not EVER make ANY compliment to any woman (maybe excepting the spouse, depending on her mood).”
Yeah, there’s another one the guys didn’t see coming. Instead of winding up on the couch for the night, they might wind up in jail for the night.
Yep, the UK is down the drain. We need to figure out how to stop it here in the US.
I suppose it’s a possible risk – perhaps you ought to check out the Daily Mail, one of our more down to Earth papers. It’s certainly worried about feministas. Only the other day it reported about some woman in Paris who shopped a guy for ‘making animal noises’. Ok, he did chase after her, throw a glass ashtray at her and punch her, but she sort of asked for it by telling him to shut up. It’s not even like he knocked her out cold like the English guy who hit a teenage woman because she told him off for intimidating a group of other young women. Then there are all those young men, minding their own business with a gun or bottle of acid or a moped and a burning need for a phone. It’s not their fault if some girl gets in the way of a bullet intended for someone else or a nurse sitting on a park bench gets covered in acid meant for a rival gang member and then gets sepsis and dies. It’s like those stuid bints get in the way on purpose.
You get the picture. Sure, there are hysterical women who want to turn anything into a fight. There are nutjobs who accuse innocent men of crimes. There are stalkers who just won’t take ‘no’ for an answer. There are even murderous women and those who sexually abuse kids but they are the great exception. I don’t think men or women should be judging the opposite sex based on the loonies, the jerks or the downright dangerous.
And THAT is part of the problem. Plenty of laws to deal with the real problems (from assault to battery to public indecency to….) but not ENFORCING them; so then you make a whole new raft of laws that ensnare everyone. Now you can use “selective enforcement” to toss anyone you don’t like into prison while letting your friends go free.
That is NOT a good thing.
It is an abuse strategy that is widely used.
That the present perfectly adequate laws are not being applied is NOT a reason to expand the law to ensnare everyone.
Ugh. I don’t have any particularly wise words to offer. The guys in my environment have apparently been rather thoroughly house broken. The last time I saw ogling or heard suggestive (slightly) comments was in 1984. I went to the beta male and said I wanted him to keep the perp away from me. That took care of it.
i’m not saying that my current environment is sterile. Our alpha and beta males know when they can offer a side hug to communicate caring. Nothing untowards intended. Maybe it’s a deal where, as long as you keep the eyes focused on the other’s eyes, you avoid trouble.
Or maybe it’s me. LOL. One time I could hear a conversation going in a slightly inquiring direction…I confessed that, “I like guys. I just don’t trust them.” :-)
Power Grab says: ” “I like guys. I just don’t trust them.” :-) ”
“I went to the beta male and said I wanted him to keep the perp away from me. That took care of it.”
LoL, good girl! that is the way It has been handled for thousands of years. Some men are real jerks and need to be dealt with by the people that can do the job. Some women are as well, and will create as much damage to others as they can get away with. Generally only those in the group will know who is the bad actors. To bring in officials that have no Idea of the real situation only makes things worse for everyone. Except the trouble makers generally get off free to do it again.
Men and women are supposed to work together as a team. Conversation or a pat-on-the-back makes life a bit more fun or at least more bearable…pg
Perhaps surprisingly, the BBC produced a play, about ten years ago, on just this topic. IIRC, it was called something like “What Did I Say?”, and opened at a business meeting where one of the execs looked at the heaving crowd in the canteen at lunchtime and commented to his colleague “God, it’s like the Rape of the Sabine Women in there – look, I saw this nice little pub down the road, let’s go there …”. But oh, dear! Some uncultured little SJW, completely ignorant of the reference, happens to overhear the comment and puts in an outraged complaint to the bosses about him “making light of rape” … He eventually loses his job (for, you will be pleased to hear, refusing to admit his heresy), but there were a few thoughtful comments in it about the inanity of a situation where a misheard or misunderstood word is taken as an offence in law.
And as I said, that was ten years ago: the Thought Police have been on patrol in our once “free” country longer than people think.
@Steve C – you do not have to go back 10 years. Just 10 weeks. Back in early may, a guy made the joke (old – dated him) about what floor he wanted on an elevator (he said Ladies Lingerie). Some snowflake SJW got offended and demanded he be forced into a re-education camp.
Of course it had to happen in San Francisco.
Interesting article here – perhaps we are in the middle of a cultural revolution ( the death of PC and Progressive-ism) and we don’t even know it yet?
Maybe the backlash has already begun, like the flower power generation – perhaps the revolution that will destroy progressive collective dogma is already underway.
I have never heard of this guy before, but from an Amazon book review a quick summary of his 12 points:
One common thing among The 12 Rules for Life, in essence, is “Honesty”.
Rule 1: Stand up straight with your shoulders back (make your body/mind honest, straight and strong).
Rule 2: Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helping (be honest with yourself about your shortcomings and fix them)
Rule 3: Make friends with people who want the best for you (seek and keep honest, good friends).
Rule 4: Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today (focus only on your honest achievements).
Rule 5: Don’t let children do things that make you dislike them (be honest with your kids about life, and prepare them for it).
Rule 6: Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world (be honest with the world about your shortcomings before bashing its imperfection).
Rule 7: Pursue what is meaningful, not what is expedient (live life being honest with your feelings).
Rule 8: Tell the truth—or, at least, don’t lie (say only honest statements).
Rule 9: Assume that the person you are listening to might know something you don’t (converse with an honest intention to learn).
Rule 10: Be Precise in Your Speech (make honestly condensed messages)
Rule 11: Don’t bother children when they are skateboarding (let less experienced people make honest efforts in risk-taking).
Rule 12: Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street (respect other beings – human included – that made honest efforts, despite how low their status is).
@Larry I’m quite surprised you haven’t heard of Jordan Peterson given some of the people you follow ;)
Interesting as that’s close to how I think a life ought to be lived. (Minus the pet stray cats… some of them have teeth and claws and like to use them. Ask the car first if it wants to be petted ;-)
I’ve noticed more Millennials starting to question the crap they have been fed. It can be amusing to watch one have the Ah-Ha moment and start to think instead of regurgitate…
Peterson is very engaged when he interviews and lectures. The vid of him in Canadian Parliament denouncin compelled speech is on-point and thrilling to experience.
Putting on my Philosophy Graduate hat, I have to say I have a lot of time for Peterson. He only came to my attention recently, when he obliterated some unfortunate little girl on Channel 4 TV, sweeping away her touchy-feely with logic and facts. It’s refreshing to see someone in public life who is capable of presenting a soundly reasoned argument!
Delingpole reports on Breitbart that the BBC, too, can’t handle him … ;-)
Think this was the first Jordan B Peterson vid I watched.
Anti post – modernism and Foucault, politicks of resentment.
After that I was hooked.
Rule 12: Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street.
(respect other beings – human included – that made honest efforts, despite how low their status is).
Good advice when treating with any other being. The Golden Rule has nothing to do with gold…pg
This will “trigger” someone, but men are starting to fight back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVZt1ycjdQk
[Reply: This needs an F-Bomb warning and a general language warning. Strongly Patriarchal, but makes some good points about responsibility being conditioned on authority. -E.M.Smith ]
@Stephen – I am surprised YouTube has not banned TFM yet! LOL!
I know, but can not stop laughing. #Walkway is also just as amusing. Keep your eyes and ears open and listen, because Americans are well known for not following rules.
#WalkAway – sorry…
Chief, I respect you so very much. But so that you can follow along on YouTube. I went to college at Berkeley, so that is a very sore point with me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0M3XDUjBcg
You will get the idea on YouTube by following #WalkAway. Americans are finally standing up, and this old soldier is so darn proud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtAJ6wCBqJQ
Just search on YouTube for #WalkAway and learn something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nt3fTGKSdY
It is not only guys to gals. I lost a customer for ‘shouting’ (Idiot letting toddler walk behind pony and pull tail. 🙄 )
This micro aggression PC Shiff** is for the birds. Luckily it is starting to backfire big time.
** new pejorative swear word using Representative Adam Schiff’s (D- CA) name. (The Schiff really hit the rotating blades) Though you might appreciate it.
While I appreciate it, “shit” is a perfectly acceptable word here.
Yeah, parents going postal because you prevent their children getting stomped… been there, done that… one begins to think Darwin depends on the kindness of others…
Ya, but… Schiff, when used as a substitute, is worse than shit. When someone has Schiff-for-brains or is a Schiff-head, it’s saying they are really stupid. And a Schiff-hits-the-fan moment is far worse than the usual case where excrement hits the rotating blades of an oscillating air circulation device.
For those aware of the pernicious activities of Adam Schiff, Adam Schiff makes shit seem like rose petals. He’s in deep Schiff in the plot to remove resident Trump.
Seriously HR – who gives a Schiff? :-)
I really like that substitution. While excrement may be acceptable here, it is not everywhere. Yet Schiff can be used anywhere!
This is sort of relevant here – from 2012 but ‘trending’ at the moment. Actor Rowan Atkinson’s (Mr Bean) campaign – the freedom to insult or offend.
p.g.sharrow says “Men and women are supposed to work together as a team. Conversation or a pat-on-the-back makes life a bit more fun or at least more bearable…pg”
Right! That’s how I see it. :-)
Did I tell about the time in high school when I had to slap the face of a classmate? Stop me if you’ve heard this…
I had never had even a passing conversation with this classmate. I knew who he was. He was one of those people who keeps getting their picture in the paper because they got their Eagle Scout badge, they were awarded yet ANOTHER scholarship, etc. But we had never even stood in line next to each other, that I can remember. No interaction at all through the years.
One day he comes up and starts trash talking me. It was during a play practice where some friends of mine were in the play. I was sitting in the audience watching the rehearsal. So when this guy comes and sits down next to me, I thought we might have an interesting conversation. No. He started trash talking me. I said nothing, frowned, and walked over to the next section of the auditorium.
He followed me. He continue to trash talk me. I did the same thing and walked to the next section, the last section.
He followed me again. I didn’t even sit down that time, I swung at his face with my right hand. He blocked it with his right hand, so I immediately swung my at him with my left hand and connected. We both stood there with surprised looks on our faces, like…that wasn’t supposed to happen….!
He didn’t bother me again.
Yeah. I’m like, “I don’t care if you are going to be valedictorian. I’ve been dating your clone who is 2 classes ahead of you. if you can’t have a civil conversation with me, then get outta my face.”
I always wondered if anyone on the stage saw that exchange, and what they thought of it. No one ever talked about it with me.
@Power Grab – I am guilty of provoking women to slap my face. But only ones I knew well and only because I am an evil SOB that likes to provoke friends to do things they would not normally do. And the provocation does not include any sexual innuendo, dirty language or insults to person. It merely involves saying really outrageous stuff that you know will set the other off (belief in what you say is immaterial).
I did it to get the result I got, and only afterwards does the other party realize they have been baited. Then we both laugh. But it is a lesson on what to look out for so they do not get baited by someone who is not their friend.
@ philjourdan: Hmmm… Thanks for the warning.
I have an in-law that like to get his jollies doing what you described. We’ve never come to blows, however.
We harbor many of the same anti-PC philosophies, so we spend most of our time going, “Didja hear about …?” ;-)
@Power Grab; my opinion from the hints dropped in your story is that, the young man had an very high opinion of himself and wanted to get your attention. You said you had dated “his older clones”, he wanted to join that company. It would appear that his education was remiss. You re-educated him. ;-) One should hope the lesson was not wasted on that young man…pg
I did consider his motivation might be as you described. Really, I did…later….
I’m pretty sure you are correct about his opinion of himself. He had been dating another classmate of mine whose hair was the same unusual color as mine….
But I refuse to begin a relationship (romantic, or otherwise) by allowing myself to be belittled like that. I mean, if the relationship begins with abuse like that, where does it end?
In addition, this was at a time when the ERA (Equal Rights Amendment) was all over the news. It’s as if a young woman knew that she had better stand up for herself in the face of such disrespect, [Insert Aretha Franklin’s hit song here…] or kiss goodbye to any control of her future.
I never could do that song-and-dance where a woman makes a man think something is his idea, when in reality was was hers. If that’s what he wanted/expected from me, then he would be sorely disappointed. Not gonna happen. Sorry.
On the other hand, he was one of the handsomest guys who ever paid me any kind of attention. Especially after he came back to school after spending all summer hauling hay bales. Still…gotta have R.E.S.P.E.C.T.