W.O.O.D. – 26 August 2018


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:
and remains open for threads running there
(at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

So use “Tips” for “Oooh, look at the interesting ponder thing!”
and “W.O.O.D” for “Did you see what just happened?! What did you think about it?”

What’s Going On?

I’m on the road in a dash across the country ( in Oklahoma at the moment ) while the family has Doggy Doorman and Doggy Butler duties and are generally hold down the old homestead. As a consequence, I’m out of touch on the news of the day.

I did see on one paper at a gas stop that John McCain had died. Please remember the advice to “Never speak ill of the dead”… they might come back to haunt you! ;-)

So what does this do to the Senate? I have no clue if the Arizona governor appoints, or if they are even a Republican, or what. But in some small way it must set the cat among the pigeons one way or another.

Beyond that, I’ve not got much to add.

One funny bit:

When driving around Silicon Valley I like to play “Spot the Tesla”. I’ll usually spot 1/2 dozen on a run of errands and such. All those virtue signally overpaid valley folks and their town car.

Well, so far, I spotted 2 on the I-5 run down to the turn to the east. Trying to make it to L.A. perhaps? Then, crossing the Mojave, the only ones I saw were on a car hauler being delivered to the back door to L.A. via I-15. (Instead of going over the Grapevine and getting stuck on the 405 or 101, you can cross the Mojave and sneak in the back way for destinations like Riverside.

Since then, across all of I-40 through Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, and now Oklahoma, I’ve seen exactly zero.

Now there may well be some go by that I don’t spot. It’s not the most important task while driving and night makes it harder. So I’m NOT saying there absolutely were none. But I sure didn’t see any.

Guess that “going 1500 miles in one day” thing isn’t in their strong suit ;-0

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139 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 26 August 2018

  1. jim2 says:

    No football for me until the NFL enforces players stand with hand over heart for the national anthem and pledge.

  2. H.R. says:

    Strictly college ball for me, jim2.

    Not a nickel or an eyeball from me unless it’s purely by accident.

  3. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hi EM glad to hear your road trip is progressing well.

    I see a few here in the north west Denver Metro area, mostly close to Boulder (big surprise). Enough travel range for around town errands etc. But would not be my choice to cross Wyoming.

    Arizona governor is currently Doug Ducey (R) in first to 2 successive terms. I have seen some chatter that he might appoint Cindy McCain to fill out his term but have seen no authoritative commentary on it either.

  4. Larry Ledwick says:

    Above comment was about Teslas by the way.

    Regarding McCain the Russians gave him grudging recognition as an honest enemy.

    Americans burned by the Lincoln Trust savings and loan collapse and melt down of the savings and loan industry are likely less inclined to be so generous about his honesty (full disclosure I am one of those burned by that meltdown)

  5. ossqss says:

    I have almost completed my Tesla battery trailer and hitch. It could provide for 500-1,000 mile range depending on trailer length. I am still doing the math on a possible thousand+ pound towing impact on motor drain. That ain’t easy with terrain variations. One mountain syndrone! :-)

    I did not half staff today. I have my many reasons as I am not a federal site. Respect, but not compliance.

    I host a 12 team fantasy fooball league. I have no choice but to watch, and will 8 games at a once on the ticket. I am grandfathered in and have no other programming on satellite, and own my HD reciever and dish. I would mention my dish is in a 50 pound umbrella stand and is fully portable along with the reciever too! Just apply power anywhere ;-)

    It is not hard to level and point. My retreiver could do it……

  6. H.R. says:

    @E.M. – Any good news regarding your friend? 👍?
    I was looking at cars online and ran across this 2015 BMW i3 for sale.

    Talk about depreciation! And check out the mileage. Too busy charging the dang thing to drive it.


  7. gallopingcamel says:

    I won’t be watching the NFL until they demonstrate respect to our flag and our institutions.

    Aw shucks! That is so dishonest………I won’t be watching the NFL no matter what they do given that my team is the Washington Redskins.

  8. ossqss says:

    Ha! @GC, I may be drafting that AP “gonna get the switch” guy this Friday from DC on my team in the late rounds! He looked good!

    @HR, I just picked up a few months ago, for a similar price (20,000 miles) an MKT (2013) Ecoboost (365 hp) that gets around 20-26 mpg in flat FL.. There are some bargains down here , without only battery power ;-)

    I would state, I will never own an electric only car. Hybrid, possibly.

  9. Larry Ledwick says:

    And you probably are unaware of the shooting in Florida today, a 24 year old gamer shot up a gaming tournament when he lost. He killed 3-4 depending on sources. He was a anti-trump “resister” so almost certainly a Democrat. It will be interesting to see if this shooting gets black holed by the media when they realize it does not fit their preferred narrative.


  10. John F. Hultquist says:

    I think that in 10 years there will be a lot more EVs and Hybrids on the roads.
    In just 3 to 5 years there will be multiple choices.
    New ways of charging are being researched. For example VW and a robotic company have the idea of a autonomous vehicle roaming around and “on call” for charging. Sort of like how we now can get chips in a windshield repaired — but without the person.
    I’m not making any value judgement with this. But billions of Euros and Dollars are funding such things. Specialty publications are reporting on these initiatives.
    Meanwhile a dozen or so charging units (with Tesla name and equipment) have just become operational in the parking lot of a grocery store in the tourist town of Leavenworth, WA.
    This time last year (use Google Earth: 47.598505, -120.656026 ) the space was an overflow parking area for tourists. I’ve gone by 3 or 4 times and none were being used. But they have only been there a few weeks.

  11. H.R. says:

    @ossqss: That same site had a Prius listed and they gave the mileage as 40 Highway and 46 City.

    OK. Great round-about-town car, but what’s the towing capacity of a Prius?

  12. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like South Africa is going to go full totalitarian.


    Throw in forced seizure of White farmers lands and you end up in a very bad place for the white minority.

  13. Another Ian says:


    A Subaru question, as I know there are some users here.

    A friend has a 2010 Forester that is coming due for a timing belt and he is told they have to remove the engine to do that.


  14. Another Ian says:

    More do-gooding

    Oh, Goody
    August 27, 2018 KateAnimal Rights Extremism 5 Comments

    Somebody wants to be your new window police.

    We are looking for ALL information about birds hitting windows…. How many hit and FLY AWAY; How many hit and DIE, and, of course, please bring us your INJURED birds!!
    CALL us, or the WBU store (306-955-2473) to report a “window strike”! (Date, address, species, outcome?)

    We will be tracking this data to more fully understand the number of birds impacted by unprotected windows, with the hope that we can advocate for change in the future!!

    I wonder what “change” they have in mind?”


  15. Another Ian says:

    Another “preparation list”

    August 27, 2018 at 8:30 pm · Reply


    Heh, back ter the Dark Ages, scarey…Compile a how-to-kit’
    Five-Year-Great-Leap-Backward-Plan, supply of candles, matches
    ‘n flints / check, mouse-proof plastic dustbins, (yikes, plastic,)
    filled with grains fer gruel, /check, salt, chutney, garlic, Keens
    Curry Powder ter make it palatable/ check, a whole lotta’ gallon
    bottles of clean water in the cellar/check, mega bottles of vitamin
    pills and vitamin C, medical kit,/ a few bottles of medicinal
    whisky, (Famous Grouse,) check, bow’n arrows, in case yer tithe
    -collector-bureaucrats come callin’, cheque, tools, scythe,
    chopped firewood in the shed, library of soon-ter-be-fergotten-
    past-knowledge /check /tech-nology how to manuals,/check. Don’t
    fergit yr guitar fer merry songs of Summer and railin’ against
    famine, oh, ‘n complaints against authority,/ Check.”


    Hope that covers it…

  16. Bloke in Japan says:

    @Another Ian.

    A friend has a 2010 Forester that is coming due for a timing belt and he is told they have to remove the engine to do that.

    Not in my experience (3 generations of Legacy). It’s a bit of digging to get the shrouds out of the way, but the shrouds come off without without having to pull the radiator, let alone the engine. Try another mechanic.

  17. Larry Ledwick says:

    A friend has a 2010 Forester that is coming due for a timing belt and he is told they have to remove the engine to do that.


    False you have to take the front timing belt covers off, and it can even be done (painfully) with pretty much everything in place but easier if you pull the radiator to get better access. I have personally replaced the cam belts on a 1988 subaru in my driveway (very similar design).

    Sure it is a piece of cake if the engine is out but it is not necessary.

    quick video of the process on a 2001 forester.

  18. Larry Ledwick says:

    They probably want to apply for a federal grant and funding for a 5 year study of dizzy birds and then set up a continuing bird training program to reduce the number of dizzy birds impacting our windows.

    Or they will push for some mandated screen covering (since the mention “unprotected windows”) This will surely involve an expensive retrofit program and will mandate the install of a resilient protective screen system which they happen to own the patent on.

    Hint birds don’t try to fly through windows that have curtains or blinds so that they don’t look like a free path.

    I used to know a guy that had a home which had two large picture windows on both sides of his family room which was on the second floor over the garage. He constantly had birds banging into the windows when they had no curtains, and it looked like the bird could fly through the house in that giant picture window opening. In one case a big pheasant was killed when it smacked the window at full flight speed.

  19. A C Osborn says:

    “H.R. says 27 August 2018 at 3:28 am
    @E.M. – Any good news regarding your friend? 👍?
    I was looking at cars online and ran across this 2015 BMW i3 for sale.”

    What is list for a BMW i3 in the US?

  20. cdquarles says:

    Hybrids? There are tons of them on the road. I even see flex-fuels. Teslas? Can’t say that I’ve seen one of them, even when driving in/near Metro Atlanta.
    Personally, if we are going to go “electric”, fully, then pumped electrochemical fuel cells are the way to go. If not, then diesel-electric. Otherwise, don’t bother.

  21. gallopingcamel says:

    @ossqss & John F.,
    Electric cars are great if you can afford one.

    Even with the government subsidy (robbing the poor to feed the rich) the Tesla company has already lost $3 billion.

    I studied physics and figured out what needed to be invented before leaving high school. Number one was anti-gravity so that ordinary folks could get around without roads.

    Given that anti-gravity seemed highly improbable, the next best thing was a storage battery ten times better and cheaper than a lead-acid battery. While this dream has been pursued vigorously the humble lead-acid cell is still around and its higher performing rivals are too bulky, expensive and dangerous to make electric cars affordable for us little people.

  22. H.R. says:

    @A C Osborn: I took a look, and current retail for the i3 starts at $44,500 USD for the base model. The price goes up from there with options. Not sure where the price tops out, but I’d guess it’s a fair bit over $50,000.

    That is some nasty depreciation, particularly since it is such a low mileage car. A BMW sedan of the same year and with such low mileage would still be well above 50% of it’s price when new.

  23. A C Osborn says:

    H.R. says: 27 August 2018 at 2:47 pm

    Thanks for that, it is roughly comparable to EVs in the UK, some have lost 80% in 3 years, they have had the worst depreciation of all cars.
    Maybe that will change, but I can’t see it as there is too much concern over Battery Replacement costs.
    At least with a hybrid you can still drive it if the battery side packs up, (I think).

  24. beng135 says:

    Wow, I was way ahead of the “game” — stopped watching football several yrs ago, before the Anthem stuff. Just disgusted by the infantile antics of the players/culture and the cameras focused on it, supporting it. Imagine how stupid it would look if golfers moon-walked across the green after making a long putt….

  25. E.M.Smith says:

    Just got word my friend is out of surgery, in recovery, and doing well. I’m about 9 hours away. I can likely visit tomorrow, maybe… (don’t know when non-famlly is let in…)

    I’m about 20 miles from the Georgia Border ATM… So about 100 miles and a right turn ;-)

    Per Football:

    I’ll watch once it is in the news papers that it is once again a game and ot a Political Statement…. I’m NOT going to check in on any games to find out. I’ve found other things to do (hey, that European football is even interesting… but why do they bang their heads on it? ;-)

    So NFL wan “woo me back” maybe, if they try hard enough, and I notice…

  26. Jon K says:

    Praying for your friend’s speedy recovery and good health.

    This caught my interest. https://truepundit.com/fbi-raid-thomas-paines-house-point-guns-at-his-young-children-how-an-award-winning-reporter-became-thomas-paine/

    The government should take better care on who they screw over lol.

  27. Steven Fraser says:

    @EM: You are really haulin’!

    I have not done a trip like that since 1980, Amarillo-to-San Francisco, Wahoo!

  28. Another Ian says:

    Re BMWprices in Oz.

    Years ago a friend had a high range BMW ($A 100,000 or so) for about three weeks when it was totally flooded. He thought he should get a replacement from insurance.

    Insurance told him that they would rebuild it. Until they found that it had seven computer boards in it that were going to cost $A57,000 on their own.

    He got the new one.

  29. Another Ian says:

    They didn’t listen

    “Another “Ship of Fools” gets grounded in Arctic ice, needs rescue”


  30. Another Ian says:


    Thanks for the Subaru information which I’ve forwarded. He can deal with that when he deals with the airbag problem. His has been recalled – to have like replaced with like so he has to go round again.

  31. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like Iran is looking for a distraction to all the riots to give them an excuse to crack down on the rioters. They may be screwing with the wrong Navy if they really try to close that passage.


    I am sure Mattis has already gamed out how to make their small boat fleet tactics into a naval gunnery exercise.

  32. R Shearer says:

    And Andrea Rossi has shifted directions again and is going to sell heat (any minute now); actually he plans to make a presentation in January and that will signal the start of manufacturing. http://e-catworld.com/2018/08/23/rossi-presentation-to-signal-start-of-manufacturing/

  33. H.R. says:

    @R Shearer: As they say in Tennessee, “That cat won’t hunt.” Or something close to that.

  34. Larry Ledwick says:

    Parallel to the true pundit link above. Seems unsavory use of Federal power has become endemic in our government, and well intentioned citizens who report improper actions are getting black balled for their efforts at bringing corruption to light.


  35. jim2 says:

    I’m wondering if True Pundit published that piece as a flag so that if he dies mysteriously, people know where to start looking?

  36. wyoskeptic says:

    @ Jon K
    Perhaps some of those FBI & other “three letter types” should read some of the classics. There are some lines from the ballad of “Sir Andrew Barton” that come to my mind. The entire ballad need not be noted, just these lines are appropriate here:

    ‘I am hurt but I am not slain.
    I’ll lay me down and bleed awhile,
    Then I’ll rise and fight again.’

    The story of Thomas Paine you referenced bears out the warning behind these words. If you do not succeed in your intended strike, you’ve created a foe that will rise and will make you regret your foolish actions. Now Andrew Barton spoke those words to give courage to his crew, but in this day and age, it seems to me to be far more appropriate generally. Thomas Paine and True Pundit will out in the long run. Look to Cliven Bundy. Look to General Flynn. Look to all the others who have been so treated.

    Create enough bloodied troopers by high handed governmental action, well … look to 1776 and realize that the original Americans were English by allegiance who were worked over by their high handed government.

    Look to what resulted from that. It is in the blood and the very heritage of all Americans and understand that it does run deep.

  37. gallopingcamel says:

    “I am sure Mattis has already gamed out how to make their small boat fleet tactics into a naval gunnery exercise.”


  38. gallopingcamel says:

    Those conspirators (29 senior officials in the DoJ and FBI plus hundreds of others we have not yet heard of) are likely to be charged with sedition which used to be called “Treason” when sir John Carrington wrote these words:

    “Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
    Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”

    These conspirators think they are prospering with their book deals, absurd speaking fees, pay to play deals, spying on political campaigns and corrupt investigations. They will all get to keep their winnings unless Donald Trump stays in office. I guess that explains why they fight like partisans but what happens if Trump survives and goes on offense? It will be highly entertaining……..how will the people who have been dishing it out with impunity for decades react when the justice system turns on them?

  39. philjourdan says:

    How about a Chevy Volt? I have seen exactly one. Period. Vinyl seats, priced like a luxury car. PT Barnum said it. There is one born every minute.

  40. wyoskeptic says:

    I have a hunch that President Trump is here to stay for a while. At this point in time, he has heartened enough people that I think that what he wants will be accomplished. In regards to swamp draining, perhaps not rapidly, but as the old saying goes “The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.” I have a feeling that POTUS Trump’s grist mill works on the nano scale.
    What so many of those conspirators seem to fail to remember is that he believes in hitting back. You hit him, he hits back ten times harder. Those who dis him should think of being on the receiving end of ten times the amount they tried to force feed him.
    Yes, I think it will be interesting when the time is right for the hammer to fall, I personally would not want to be on his bad side. The man does not seem to ever do anything on a small scale. What is waiting in the wings is likely to be spectacular, something for the ages.

  41. E.M.Smith says:

    I have arrived in Florida. 55 1/2 hours door to door, a “personal best”.

    As you might guess, not a lot of eating and sleeping in that time (2 hour cat naps in the rear seat as needed, total about 8 hours I’d guess… food “snacks” while in motion…)

    So tomorrow I’ll visit the hospital. For now, it is bed (a REAL bed!).

    I’ll try to catch up with comments later tomorrow.

  42. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and no more Teslas anywhere. Did see one Chevy Volt on the beltway in Atlanta at early commute home hours…

  43. p.g.sharrow says:

    @EMSmith; glad to hear you arrived safely and with little difficulty. A long nap in a real bed is well deserved. 55+ hours with a few short naps on a bench seat is not very restful to your body. We pray your friend heals quickly and with no complications.
    We can entertain one another for a few more hours. ;-) ….pg

  44. p.g.sharrow says:

    I would suspect that most Tesla’s are owned as status symbols and not as every day drivers. They are too difficult to get service for and too fragile for dependable transportation.
    If you “Need a Car” a Tesla is not for you.! …pg

  45. Larry Ledwick says:

    Good to hear you have reached your destination with no major drama.

    Now get some rest and check on your friend, we will just play over here in the corner until you check in again.

  46. Larry Ledwick says:

    Meanwhile in other news it appears SecDev Mattis is beginning to shuffle pieces to get the department of defense he wants. Just the other day we had the President announce the new Space Force, and yesterday (the media was distracted and failed to notice) the US Army made a major organizational change creating a major command tasked with modernizing the Army and bringing it up to speed to fight peer opponents rather than fight down to the level of insurgents.

    The Army Futures Command will engage with industry and try to harvest the best in how they move so quickly to adapt to changing conditions and technology while making use of a talent pool that is up to speed on modern technological capabilities.


  47. H.R. says:

    p.g.: “I would suspect that most Tesla’s are owned as status symbols and not as every day drivers.”

    I would be willing to be a nickel (make that a quarter, a whole quarter!) that less than 1/2 of one percent of Teslas sold are to people who bought it as their only car; no second car at all.

    First off, the people who can buy a Tesla have the money for multiple cars. If the person or family only has enough money for one car, that car will assuredly not be a Tesla.

    Second, there are always exceptions and always some true believers so I figure there must be some number of people, as true believers, that bought a Tesla as their sole means of transport. I figure that number is very, very small.

    I think my quarter is safe. Anyone want to bet?

  48. H.R. says:

    @E.M.: If the bypass surgery was scheduled I have faith that your friend will come through just fine. No surgery is failsafe, but the cutters are pretty good at bypasses nowadays. If it was an “Oh Crap! This guy needs a bypass” while they were doing the stent, then it is a bit dicier and a cause for concern. My best wishes for a full recovery for your friend.

    Glad to hear you made it safe and sound. Howz ’bout taking it just a bit easier on the way home, m’kay?

  49. corsair red says:

    Merely pointing this out: The phrase is a Southernism, not just Tennessee, and correctly is, ” that dog won’t hunt. ”
    The idea is this a dog you are following, as when quail hunting, and the dog isn’t working the ground. Nobody has any idea that a cat won’t hunt. :-)

    Born and reared in the South, in a family of hunters. And yes, I do understand you now know more than you ever wanted.

    And, since I got started on this, the correct spelling is y’all. It is can be singular or plural when used by a true Southerner.

    The dessert is called pecon pie
    Though spelled pecan,
    I don’t know why.

  50. E.M.Smith says:

    Per the E-Cat:

    At this point, I’ll believe it when they have been on sale for 6 months and folks are running whole buildings on them and nothing else….

    Per Iran:

    I like the notion of their Navy “going away” ;-) I’m sure we have a carrier task group near there at all times; so just tell them to “practice” taking out ALL those shore radars and missile sites along with any mine laying ships & planes. Oh, and have the fighters do some target practice on those little boats… I figure in about 1/2 a day Iran would be left with ground forces only… They just say, publicly: “Hey, House of Saud: That’s your strait now, so whatever you want to keep it open. Let us know if you want any new equipment, film at 11 ;-) ”


    Wonder what the Tesla official towing capacity might be… I suspect “not much” to zero… Could be interesting too look it up. If non-zero, then I’d suggest towing a Diesel Generator ;-)

    I think folks in Florida know about the need to “bug out” in front of hurricanes. They also know that the State is longer than 300 miles. I’d guess the number of Teslas sold in South Florida will be relatively small… Consider the choices: Be unable to take the evacuation route away from the hurricane or leave a very expensive asset behind to be destroyed. Decisions decisions…

    @John F. H.:

    Yeah, the local Walmart and a newer Whole Foods have charging stations. They seem to be pushing the notion of charging throughout the day while you run errands. I’ve seen cars use the Walmart one from time to time has spaces for 4 cars, usually see only 1 every 2nd or 3rd visit).

    Oddly, usually not a Teela being charged. Don’t know if they have different plugs or what, but the Whole Foods chargers say Tesla while the ones at Walmart don’t, and I see Nissan and Chevy plugged into it… One said 360 V at 100 A when I read the meter on it. So a 36 kW charge rate. Ought to be able to figure how long it takes from that and battery capacity… Has a BIG “halt charging” button in it, so your charge completion seems to depend on the kindness of kids walking by to not push the button… Often there’s a bored looking person sitting in the car reading something. I’d guess shopping done and waiting to get enough charge to complete the day.


    S. Africa is going to implode like Rhodesia did. It will be importing food shortly as folks with no farming ability use sticks and shovels to try to replace mechanized farming. Anyone with a brain ought to have gotten out years ago.

    Economics does not give a damn what you like, what your agenda might be, how pure your socialist motives are, or how persuasive your rhetoric. Fools with no practical skills at running businesses or making things enter politics, then think there’s no difference in productivity whoever runs factories or farms. They result is usually starvation. (See Venezuela…)

    @Another Ian:

    There’s lots of birds die hitting windows. I’ve had them stunned from flying into my smallish living room window (and we had one bird come in the front door… had to “shoo” him back out and close the door). The problem is birds vision is different from ours. They don’t see reflections as well. No amount of Window Police will fix bird vision (or bird brains in government…)

    @Another Ian:

    Don’t know what causes the Left to think they can run a power grid better than power Engineers, but it seems endemic. Then we get blackouts. I suggest folks in such places buy their own generators. I worked well for me… as did voting Gov. Grey “out” Davis out of office…


    Yeah, the “pandering to stupid” in the end zones kind of killed it for me too. Then the way play would stop after every 20 seconds of action as the lawyers would decide what happened and what was the result, so you get to wait for 2 minutes every 20 seconds….

    Hockey figured out that was lethal a long time ago. VERY few plays go “upstairs” and lots of things get called as penalties only after the play has completed. The notion is to let play HAPPEN and then assess some penalty after the fact for very bad behaviour … Don’t interrupt the flow of the game.

    @A.C. Osborn

    Yes. I’ve regularly seen advertisements for Honda Insight with needs new battery but runs OK …


    Well, after a “Solid 8” of sleep, I’m up and ready to go… I’m going to see if they have coffee making kit here and be back in a bit ;-)

  51. gallopingcamel says:

    I suspect you are right. Trump will stay, Trump will eventually fight back in some devastating way. He has shown he can deal with big bullies on the international playing field. It does not seem likely that the Deep State bullies will do well when they are subjected to a colonoscopy.

    I suspect it will be highly entertaining when it happens.

  52. E.M.Smith says:

    @Corsair Red:

    In Texas, it is Pea-CAN Pi (who knows why) and I’ve only evah heard y’all in the plural. (Not so sure about outside of Texas, but Texas isn’t the real south anyway – [ ducks to hide from INCOMING! for a hoard of angry Texans ;-) ]

    It originated as a neologism for those French Speakers around the Louisiana Purchase and other Southern areas where languages with a difference between tu and vous as singular / plural was ingrained in them. English must have a “plural you” it seemed, so y’all as a contraction from “you” and “all” jus’ made sense… (Still does…)

    FWIW, I could be wrong on y’all not being in the singular in Texas – I just took it as if someone say to only me (by my lonesome in the room) “Y’all comin’ tah dinnah?’ that it was said to only me but the “y’all” was invitin’ mah wife & kids… I suppose it’s possible they was jus’ askin’ me…


    It was ‘scheduled after unscheduled angioplasty’. So ambulance, get some blood flow again, then “Oh Dear, he’s staying for the weekend” and schedule for Monday…

    report is no problems at all, and no damage to the heart. He ought to be fine. So “found 90% blockage” seems to mean “we decided to do this now before bad things happen”…

    One of those “I feel really bad” that gets you where you need to be before it BECOMES really bad.

    Per Slow:

    Slow… SLOW? You want me to do SLOW? I don’t know how to do slow… ;-)

    The reality is that I find it easier to “get it over with” with just one night of short slept than to do a 4 or 5 day marathon of hurt. So I “pull a one nighter” that’s easy as I’ve done them a lot since I was about 12… and then one night of a series of cat naps, and then it is over.

    Compare to 4 or 5 nights of checking into some hotel to find out they use room spray that causes me to wheeze up, or spending 3 or 4 hours a day of checking in / checking out / packing / unpacking… then popping an extra $320 of hotel costs (doubling trip cost) and then the added meals on the road… It turns “one miserable night” sleeping 2 hour bits in the rear seat into a week of work…

    FWIW, with speed limits at 75 for much of the trip, so doing 80 is quite OK, it is mostly just a matter of getting out and walking around every few hours so your butt doesn’t go numb / cramp up… Having Mercedes seats helps a lot too ;-) So I’ll part at the midpoint of the store parking lot and then walk in, find snacks, and walk back. Only adds a couple of minutes but gets some exercise. Oh, and take an aspirin every day to assure no blood clots fro sitting (DVT not good…).

    But ok, maybe I can put in a stop in Denver on the return trip ;-)

    @Per One Tesla:

    One this drive in, I noted way fewer private cars and a much higher proportion of Trucks than prior runs. I’ve been doing this at least 20 years (closer to 40 if you include my VW trip out…) So it looks to me like “driving trips” are way down and more folks are doing the “Fly & Uber”. Avoids rental car cost as a reason to drive, and if planned more than 2 weeks in advance, flying is cheaper anywy.

    I suspect this generation does not do “Family driving vacations”, does not see the journey as part of the reward, and just does “Destination! Vacations” with fly-in photo on Facebook all the way.

    I think the percentage of “never drive out of town” is rising rapidly (has risen?). Many millennials do not even own a car at all.


    Friend is fine, per family that saw him last night (still a bit drugged up…) I’m first up this morning and already got the kitchen in shape ( yes, as “itinerant butler” I’ve started by dealing with all the ignored stuff from a weekend of ‘at the hospital’ not at home cleaning… so they will be surprised that it is all orderly and clean … whenever they wake up ;-) Sometime later today we go en mass to visit. Probably after noon. ( EVERYONE can use the morning off, even in the hospital)

    2nd hand report was that the procedure was textbook and he’ll be fine and dandy; so no need to rush in to “say goodbye” or anything…


    Well, when you grew up doing rough work in a farm town (try bucking hay bales onto a moving flatbed in 100 F heat for 10 hours… or stacking 50 lb boxes of canned peaches at 400 / hour for a 12 hour shift – I’ve done it…) the idea of just sitting in a comfy seat for 20 is not so bad ;-)

    Maybe I have a warped POV…

    “If you “Need a Car” a Tesla is not for you.! …pg”

    Got me laughing! So True! It isn’t a Real Car ™ it’s a TOWN car… like a super-plush golf cart that’s street legal… (Here in Florida lots of folks have a golf cart in the resorts and you see them run to the store and back… so a Tesla is just a big over priced golf cart with license plates ;-)


    Yup, batteries are THE big issue…

    Per Trump:

    Folks forget he went to a Military Academy… He’s likes playing hard ball…

    I’m going to go read those threads on Gov’t Stuff above and be back after my morning coffee…

  53. H.R. says:

    @corsair red, re Hunting Cats:

    R Shearer was making a sarcastic reference to Rossi’s E-Cat, which as been on the verge of a breakthrough for… well, I can’t recall how many years. So I was supporting R Shearer’s remark using, “That cat won’t hunt.” as a reference to the possibility that the E-Cat may never fulfill its promise. It’s just not as funny when you have to explain the joke.

    As for fluency in ‘Southern,’ I’m guessing that the fact I grew up with a momma that was born and raised so far south in Texas, you had to go north 100 miles to hear a Southern accent 😜, at the very least qualifies me as passing acquainted with the Texas dialect, with my cousins, uncles, and aunts filling in any gaps in “How To Talk Texan.”

    I never heard the phrase, “That dog won’t hunt.” from any of my Texas relatives or any Texans I met while spending Summers and Holidays in Texas. I first heard that phrase used by a Tennessee gentleman, so I’m confident that my attribution, “As they say in Tennessee,” is accurate, regardless of where else it is used South of the Mason-Dixon.

    I suspect the phrase is a Southeast regionalism as I have never heard it from my wife’s nth-generation West Virginia father, her other relatives, nor from the many West Virginia and Kentucky kids I grew up with, who were as ubiquitous in our town as Mexicans in Southern California.

    As to spelling y’all, I have been known to have happy fingers on the keyboard as my brain gets ahead of the 4 fingers I use to type. That apostrophe can appear anywhere between the ‘y’ and the last ‘l’ as I am concentrating on the keyboard and not on the screen. I’m not dyslexic, but it seems my right 3 typing fingers and left finger are. I think my left finger knows what’s coming and jumps the gun. Also, the laser eye surgery referenced below messed with my depth perception and I will often miss the key I am aiming for.

    Proofing is difficult because 25% of the central vision of each of my eyes was lasered out around ano 2000. I literally don’t see some things that are right in front of me. (Eye exams are a real treat. I have to wait until the gray spot jumps out of the way and then make a split-second assessment of what I’ve seen. The big E is not always visible and the smaller lines take even more time to resolve.)

    Throw in the fact that my p, i, o, l, a, s, x, and n, keys are sticky due to the Mayonnaise Incident (don’t ask) and it’s a wonder that anything remotely intelligible comes out of my efforts, though I really suspect it is the keyboard/chair interface that is at fault.

    All that being said, I’m just messin’ wit’ ya, red.

    What you wrote neither offended me nor irritated me in the slightest. Please be very clear on that point because I enjoy your comments😊, including the one I’m responding to. I did not take your comment as anything other than friendly banter and your chance to point out some things you thought I, and perhaps others, might not be aware of.👍 We share what we know here.

    I’m retired now and have the time to type longer comments. I am just having some fun pointing out some of your assumptions about me might have been inaccurate. I also used this reply as an opportunity to tell everyone a little more about myself, since the personal details of the commenters only come out in dribs and drabs over a period of years.

    (Elapsed time to write this: 54 minutes.😳 Sticky key correction count: estimated to be somewhere between 90 and 110 based on the word count. *sigh*)

  54. E.M.Smith says:

    @Jon K:

    That True Pundit story is quite the deal… That kind of “hunker down and get revenge” reminds me of my attitude ;-)

    FWIW, my opinion of the FBI turned pretty much permanently after Janet Reno used it to murder people and then burned the families at Wako (when they could have just picked the guy up in town when he did his regular grocery run…)


    That Sara Carter article is an eye opener. Such a den of liars and thieves and then Trump managing to survive it somehow.

    He needs a lot more folks on his side to finish the take down of the corruption.


    Not to mention all their friends and others of good moral character who read their story and react.

    I know now if the FBI ever came to my house I would simply sit down in place and say “Lawyer”. that’s IT. I’ve done nothing wrong and I know it, and I’ll refuse to play their game.

    One hopes the “counter punch” comes soon… Hopefully in time for the mid-term elections. If not, it will become ever harder to pull it off.


    I heard “That dog won’t hunt” from folks in California who’d come from various areas across the South and into Oklahoma…

    My spelling is bad too, and I’m not even lisdexic!


  55. cdquarles says:

    Born and raised Southerner. I’ve heard “pecan pie” pronounced PEE-can, PEE-con, pe-CAN, and pe-CON. Have to love the South :). I’ve done my share of hunting, but never with dogs. I have heard “That dog won’t hunt”, though. I have to agree that it is a SE regional idiom that has been exported.

  56. John F. Hultquist says:

    A chart here:
    that needs a careful look.
    Guessing the Tesla M3 (most recorded sales) is the result of servicing the pre-ordered ones.
    Others are meeting current requests.
    The list is getting longer.

    About: “That dog won’t hunt.”
    Dan Rather (yes, that one) was born in Wharton, TX and has spouted such things “on air.”
    I’d much rather wear out than rust out.
    Don’t taunt the alligator until after you’ve crossed the creek.

    Where I came from, for “creek”, we would have said “crick.”

    Interesting comments about that here:

  57. ossqss says:

    If anyone was really interested in making a successful/practical electric car, why would they not cover every single square inch of it with solar cells? I mean really, why? My neighbor purchased a low end Tesla and said it was the right thing to do. He also placed a backyard full of solar panels, which is on the north side of his house surrounded by trees, and thought it the right thing to do. I calculated his CF, and it is less than 5%. Must have had a great salesman.

  58. E.M.Smith says:


    The solar cells on the car will make about a kW unless you are parked in the shade… most of which will go to running the AC on high since you didn’t park in the shade and now your car is an oven…

    The engine will use about 15-30 kW… so you need about 15 to 30 hours of “mid-day sun” for every hour you drive. “Good luck with that” comes to mind…

    IF you only drive 10 minutes to the grocery store and back once a week, it could work…

    BTW, most folks are not good at engineering. They do understand “subsidy payment”… so near me is a house with solar panels on the roof, facing north, and with a tree shading the roof until about noon thirty anyway… but he got his California Subsidy to install it… Another neighbor has his on the west facing roof and south facing garage roof. The Garage being shaded from about noon until sundown… and the main roof about 1/2 shaded from about 2 pm onward…

    I had someone try to sell me on installing them. I pointed out the giant redwood trees (3 of them) directly “up sun’ from my roof and how they nicely “sundialed” across the whole roof all day long and how any panels there would always have a ‘dead panel’ limiting power output from the series wired panels… He looked perplexed as I was talking tech stuff and he was just wanting to sell things… and why was I so negative…

    Only government can arrange for so many people to be so stupid in unison… All the local advertising is about the subsidy not about power independence. That’s your clue right there.

  59. E.M.Smith says:

    @John F. H:

    That’s a very interesting list. Most sales in hundreds or low thousands total year to date(!) and yeah, looks like Tesla had a sudden lump of back orders arrive at buyers. But were talking numbers like 10,000 to 20,000 nation wide? Just OMG that’s nothing. Given there are more cars than people in California, so about 40,000,000 cars, even if all of them were sold in California that’s at 1/2000 of the cars, or 0.05%

    I had no idea it was so few… I’d figured maybe they were hiding in pockets in rich areas where I don’t go ;-)

  60. John F. Hultquist says:

    ” I’d figured maybe they were hiding in pockets in rich areas where I don’t go ”

    Funny line. Years ago we were on an urban-area field trip (4 cars of college students) and ventured into one of those rich communities. We soon had a police car block our way and another pull in behind. After our explanation, we were allowed to leave. With all that has gone on since, I’ll guess we would have been interrogated over the next several hours.

    You are right about the numbers. We live in ranching and farming country so heavy duty PUs are over represented and EVs are under represented. At hiking trailheads close to Puget Sound (Microsoft, Google, others) we frequently see hybrids and a few EVs. They make more sense there than on the Dry Side where winter is cold and summer is hot.

  61. John F. Hultquist says:

    My Subaru Crosstrek will do about 500 miles on a tank of gas.
    Heater in the morning, AC in the afternoon.

  62. corsair red says:

    @H.R., and the rest of y’all regarding hunting cats:
    I see that now. I missed R. Shearer’s comment.
    I appreciate your taking my comment as friendly banter, because that’s how I intended it. The rest of my comments also. My comments are generally an attempt at humor, poor as they may be. ( in real life, I do self-deprecation very well ) As for y’all, I only mention that because so many people outside the South can’t seem to spell a perfectly good contraction of you all.

    That dog won’t hunt has taken on the meaning that something won’t work. Most people aren’t close to hunting anymore. But you knew that.

  63. Larry Ledwick says:

    On the news front beginning to see confirmation that the FBI was through and through corrupt (and probably has been since Hoover).


    Feeding leaks to news media then using the new media coverage to justify investigations, sort of a “create your own probable cause game”.

  64. p.g.sharrow says:

    A little bit of amusement:
    A new old craze, hatchet throwing…pg

  65. p.g.sharrow says:

    @Larry; I remember that buildup. They even got John McCain to carry that message to the FBI and, on the record, demand they investigate. John was very concerned about the “facts” represented in the dosser that was handed to him. What a tool! Anyone with any sense could see on first reading that the thing was a wet dream and not real. A little research would yield that it was impossible that the events alleged could have happened.
    ” Oh please, please, don’t throw me into that there brier patch” :-)
    Mueller is the leader of this crew. He hired and trained them. This crew has a long history of framing their target to win out in their drive to get convictions…pg

  66. Larry Ledwick says:

    On the invasive species topic (and unintended consequences) – apparently Florida my be breeding a super python hibred which could move north into the dryer northern parts of the state.


  67. H.R. says:

    @John F Hultquist: I always wondered why they spelled crick with two ‘e’s.

    @corsair red: Good we’re on the same page regarding having a little fun. I had a patio double door and a window being replaced today so I had time to ramble a bit in between annoying the installers, which is not to imply that I don’t ramble a bit otherwise.😜

    As I was re-reading the early parts, I realized that the reply could be taken as a bit huffy or peevish. It is very hard to convey tone and mood in writing and I’ve been slacking off on my winkies lately to let people know when I’m kidding around, plus you and I haven’t exchanged enough comments to be confident in how a comment should be taken. So I took time out to explicitly state the vein I was writing in; the great saphenous vein IIRC. (Did I mention it was explicit?Very explicit? Oh dear. Maybe I should have been more explicit 😜)

  68. H.R. says:

    @p.g.: ‘Stumpy’, eh? Kinda makes you wonder how a guy who likes playing around with hatchets got that nickname.

  69. jim2 says:

    Mueller has to be stopped – preferably with an indictment of his own.

  70. corsair red says:

    Rambling, eh? Don’t ask my wife about that. I have been known to start commentary on a specific subject and end up five subjects away. My wife has asked, ” do you remember where you started? ” To which I always reply, ” Yes, and I will get back there in just a minute. ” Sometimes I do.

    Speaking of a little fun: something involving a Mercedes-Benz. In 1975 I bought an over-the-road tractor and leased it to a van line. Made some money, or thought I did. Around Christmas, my brother calls. ” Can I borrow X dollars? ” I said, ” Sure. Why do you want it? ” He said, ” I found a 1958 Mercedes-Benz diesel. ( has Otto’s signature on the block ;-) ) So he bought it. The fuel pump went out nine months later. He gave up being a Mercedes owner.

    Anyway, in traveling around the country, from time to time I would have younger helpers. Many would ask, ” can you make any money with a truck? ” They must have thought I was the right person to ask because I was always in the company of a very attractive, well-dressed ( same uniform ) older ( 13 months ) woman. Still married to her, btw. I always smiled and said, ” Well, I’ve only been doing this a year, and I have already paid for a Mercedes-Benz. “

  71. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmm this law which was passed to stop the Klan seems to apply to the major social media and news organizations as I read it.
    It could also be used to prosecute Antifa tactics

  72. jim2 says:

    Buy yourself a beer if you can guess who the man in the dress is:

  73. philjourdan says:

    Standing up to bullies finally! – http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/28/student-arrested-for-stealing-maga-hat-slapping-teacher-in-profanity-laced-tirade.html

    I doubt they will make an example of the stupid snowflake, but it is good that some folks still understand the Constitution.

  74. E.M.Smith says:


    Beto O’Rourke? (Ran against Ted Cruz)… If that’s not him then I’ve no clue..

    Picture here looks like same face structure. Older and no beard, but…


  75. E.M.Smith says:


    Yeah, that looks like it ought to work just fine…

    might fit some Clinton operations too…

    @Corsair Red:

    I like to tell folks I bought my first Mercedes on a credit card… I don’t tell them it was used and $4000

  76. Larry Ledwick says:

    The more I think about it, that “18 U.S. Code § 241 – Conspiracy against rights” law could also apply to banks and others who conspire to shut down gun sales to limit access to exercise of the second amendment outside the judicial system.

  77. philjourdan says:

    “so doing 80 is quite OK

    Don’t do that in Virginia. While the speed limits have gone up, the laws have not kept up. Reckless driving is still 80+ even where that is only 5mph over the limit.

  78. Larry Ledwick says:

    EM two small earthquakes in California tonight Just north of the Foothil FWY about 27 miles east of Bob Hope Airport.(North of La Verne Ca.)

    4.4 followed by a 3.4 after shock
    USGS current earth quakes CA

  79. gallopingcamel says:

    As Chiefio points out that impressive array of solar cells produces about 1,000 Watts maximum or about 240 W averaged over 24 hours if you live in Florida.

    Imagine scaling that up to power the entire state. Enjoy the P.B. Shelley quote at the end:

  80. ossqss says:

    My point on the car solar was ~ why would you not do it? It is free and doesn’t require a cord so why not add a self contained charge point…. I was not trying to charge the whole thing, just suppliment it as possible. After all, most of these “said” green vehicles are not green at all if you look at their construction energy needs and required corded charging energy used. That said, what if we had a 30′ solar cell trailer behind it? :-)

    Side note, if you perused JFH’s link earlier on, you would see a Mercedes that had no sales in the last 2 months of the data set provided. Click that car link and it will open up some additional stat facts from that site. Quite interesting stuff, no matter.

    As I tell my neighbors who all proudly own electric golf carts, they may win the short race, but I can go about 200+ miles on 5 gallons of gas (1989 Yamaha gas cart that kicks as$$ with DOT trailer tires) to their 30 miles max on a full charge. It is part of my Cane kit, which will be coming more visable in the next week with coming weather events in this area.

    Hopefully my mobile keyboard behaved tonight! Humpday is here already! L8R》

  81. ossqss says:

    A couple more unusual big shakers again today. Just got a ping on the last 7+.


  82. E.M.Smith says:


    Nice to know. FWIW I avoid Virginia if at all possible. Too many Federal Employees so they end up kind of nutty on laws… (Similar problem in parts of New Mexico)


    Any quake below a 5 is something I just ignore. We’ve always got 3s going off and 4s are common enough to not mean much. But a 5.x can be a pre-shock for a big one…

    And yes, I’m liking that rights law. There’s a LOT of rights being stomped on right now (like lots of what Soros sponsored folks are doing and lots of companies conspiring against conservative constitutional nationalist believers…) I think a good lawyer could go places with that law…


    Why not do it? It costs a lot, needs cleaning, requires parking in the sun, provides nearly no power,…

    So you are saying I ought to check the weather report, eh… Hmmm…

    Yikes: 7s in Alaska and some Pacific Islands areas… Glad California side is small stuff…

  83. jim2 says:

    @ https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2018/08/27/w-o-o-d-26-august-2018/#comment-99645
    Yes, Beto O’Rourke and he currently is running against Ted Cruz. He’s also had a few arrests, mostly minor stuff when he was younger, but still … seems to be the new Dimowit model – let’s get some criminals in power. He also probably leans Socialist.

  84. jim2 says:

    This article makes me wonder: Is a self-driving car smart enough to a) know I’m honking at it and b) know why?

    From the article:
    he Information quoted a number of unnamed Waymo insiders who claim the vehicles being used in the Arizona ride-hailing test have numerous problems. The test, which launched in November, is meant to be converted to a full commercial service later this year,

    The report claimed that the autonomous Chrysler Pacifica struggles to handle a number of driving tasks and even goes as far as annoying human drivers around them.

    Top among the problems is an apparent issue with turning left.


  85. jim2 says:

    Gun Control: A Tool for Tyranny
    No matter how socialist apologists rationalize it, the redistributionist agenda the South African government is pursuing will not be implemented passively. Ultimately, it must be carried out by force.

    The kind of force socialists seek is a monopolized kind, which extreme forms of gun control like gun confiscation help facilitate.

    The history of gun confiscation is one of repeated cases of tyranny.

    From countries such as Cuba to the Soviet Union, aspiring demagogues have used gun confiscation to disarm the populace. Logically, an unarmed populace will put up little resistance against their tyrannical acts.

    In South Africa’s case, farmers and their workers are already suffering ongoing attacks against their property. One could only imagine what it would be like for these persecuted farmers once they are stripped of their right to self-defense.


  86. jim2 says:

    One major source of our current problems. A last minute change in the bill shifted emphasis on immigrants with skills to ones with family. Good read. From the article:

    The law, known as the Hart-Celler Act for its congressional sponsors, literally changed the face of America. It ended an immigration-admissions policy based on race and ethnicity, and gave rise to large-scale immigration, both legal and unauthorized. While the anniversary has provided an opportunity to reflect on the law’s historic significance, it also reminds us that the ’65 Act holds important lessons for policymaking today.

    The Significance of the 1965 Act, Then and Now

    The historic significance of the 1965 law was to repeal national-origins quotas, in place since the 1920s, which had ensured that immigration to the United States was primarily reserved for European immigrants. The 1921 national-origins quota law was enacted in a special congressional session after President Wilson’s pocket veto. Along with earlier and other contemporary statutory bars to immigration from Asian countries, the quotas were proposed at a time when eugenics theories were widely accepted. The quota for each country was set at 2 percent of the foreign-born population of that nationality as enumerated in the 1890 census. The formula was designed to favor Western and Northern European countries and drastically limit admission of immigrants from Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and Southern and Eastern Europe. In major revisions to U.S. immigration law in 1952, the national-origins system was retained, despite a strong veto message by President Truman.


  87. corsair red says:

    The Mercedes: I love it! But $4000 for a credit card? How much was the car? ;-)

  88. E.M.Smith says:

    @Corsair Red:

    The car was $4000. Paid in full. ;-)

    The credit card was not full, but also paid off in full when the bill arrived. It was a bit of an impulse buy… I’d traded my 4×4 Crew Cab Ford Truck for a Mercedes wagon for the spouse, and she was not letting me drive it… and here was one that could be my own… so I ‘went for it’.

    The first one was something like $1000 on the credit card, the rest the truck. The second one was all credit card. I bought 2 Mercedes inside 2 weeks with no cash out, just credit card and a trade in.

  89. jim2 says:

    Looks like the lefties have had yet another brain storm:

    Toilet proponents might shrug off the risks of noxious chemicals. They also might suggest installing wall-mounted grab bars, buying “Squatty Potties,” or using child seats to minimize physical dangers, but those fixes are mere bandaids sure to fall off. There’s a simpler solution: why don’t we just do away with toilets and instead defecate and urinate outdoors?


  90. jim2 says:

    OH CRAP. That crapper article was SATIRE! :(

  91. jim2 says:

    I was kind of suckered by the crapper article, but I recall reading that Muslims from certain African countries were pooping in public on the sidewalk in London. Also, what with all the loony lefty idiot ideas floating around, all things considered it didn’t sound all that much out of line for them.

  92. H.R. says:

    @jim2: Given that caftans or dashikis or burqas would allow a discrete poop in public – after all, just lean against a building and give everyone the ol’ “I’m just taking care of Mother Nature’s business here, move along now” look, but YOU’RE STILL LEAVING POOP ON THE SIDEWALK!!!! (Sam Kennison scream there.)

    There’s an effin’ Starbucks within 150 yards of everybody on the planet so CUT IT OUT! Go molest a goat or something to take your mind off the urge to poop. Suck it up and save it up so no one has to step in your crap.

    /rant… I feel better now.

  93. Larry Ledwick says:

    Given all the folks crapping on the sidewalks in San Francisco, not out of reason to think it might be legitimate at all.

  94. Another Ian says:


    You might have to dust off your GISS file

    “‘Climategate 4’ email dump about to happen – Mann’s cohorts lose in court”


  95. Another Ian says:


    Re the Steele Dossier

    An interesting read is the chapter “The document discloses that his military planning – – ” (page223 on) in

    Adam Macqueen “The Lies of the Land” on Tony Blair’s UK dossier on Sadaam’s WMD and how it was prepared

  96. E.M.Smith says:


    It does look like biased bogus “research” is being used to drive policy “for effect” by The Left…

    Notice that the “gamer shooting” was yet another shooter on SSRI drugs, but not a word about the (near 90%?) correlation. ..

    @Another Ian:

    Yet more “research” where the result was the upfront goal…

    I’m also getting way sensitized to the use of bogus “findings” to justify covert and military action. My “just let them kill each other and stay home” bias is being well fed…

  97. Larry Ledwick says:

    meanwhile in the shadows President Trump is re-making the Judiciary and no one is noticing. This will change our world for the next couple decades. He is also likely unclogging the judicial backlog by filling seats.

    From twitter:
    According to the Pew Research Center, by July 12 of his second year, the Senate confirmed more appeals court judges nominated by Trump than the previous six presidents:

    @realDonaldTrump : 22
    Obama: 9
    W. Bush: 9
    Clinton: 11
    George H.W. Bush: 15
    Reagan: 14
    Jimmy Carter: 10

  98. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well (no big surprise) it looks like Russia is playing a shell game with us, Tanks and other military equipment which was supposedly moving to Syria has stopped short just outside Ukraine.
    This has been a pattern the Russians have adopted recently. They pose large military “training exercises” or other public excuses to move military resources then “lose some of it” along the way or leave some of it behind after the fact, slowly like a leopard creeping up on a prey animal they inch closer and closer to a full military capability in stealth mode and the media does not notice and does not report on it.

    China is doing similar moves building out international bases that they have never had before in places like Africa (they have recently moved resources into Syria. Is this an effort for them to train their people in deployment and perhaps to blood some troops, or a quiet way to gain operational experience with Russian units remotely deployed in Syria.

    Something much bigger than the obvious cover story is going on behind the curtain. Like the early days of WWII when Germany found exuses to make military moves to practice new tactics and season troops we might be watching in real time as Russia and China execute a slow drip by drip coordinated move to become true strategic challengers to the US and NATO.

    From Twitter:

    WarMonitor @TheWarMonitor
    14 minutes ago
    More WarMonitor Retweeted ELINT News
    The exercises don’t even look they have anything to do with the exercises. These are deployments.

    The Intel Crab

    15 minutes ago
    More The Intel Crab Retweeted Aki Heikkinen
    First concrete evidence I’ve seen that #Russia is actively deploying hardware on a mass scale along the border with #Ukraine.

    This should have everyone’s attention.
    Aki Heikkinen

    Follow Follow @akihheikkinen
    T-62s on rail carts spotted yesterday in Chernyshkov now in Kamensk-Shakhtinsky. Troops are from some Buryatia unit.

    And saying they’re going to the border (of #Ukraine)

    ELINT News @ELINTNews

    #UPDATE: They’re currently in Kamensk-Shakhtinsky, as shown on the map it is right next to the Luhansk Peoples Republic (LPR) and DPR, in Ukraine. (And this has nothing to do with exercises as Vostok 2018 is in the opposite direction at the other side of the country in the East)

  99. Another Ian says:

    “NYGuy54 says:
    August 30, 2018 at 1:51 pm

    Ok this makes me laugh. I know all of you can see why. But Slate is oblivious to their own post.

    Two years into his presidency and Donald Trump still doesn’t use computers: https://t.co/t3MDkGmigC pic.twitter.com/Wafo4VERF0

    — Slate (@Slate) August 30, 2018″


    I didn’t know that you could do Twitter with a string and can phone system?

  100. Larry Ledwick says:

    Oh this will be fun if it pans out:

    From twitter

    Jack Posobiec @JackPosobiec
    8 minutes ago

    To be clear
    President Trump just hinted he is considering enforcing antitrust regulations to break up Google, Facebook, and Amazon
    It’s on

    Jack Posobiec @JackPosobiec
    23 seconds ago
    President Theodore Roosevelt sued 45 companies under the Sherman Act
    Taft sued 75

  101. Larry Ledwick says:

    Firefox is shifting to a “will not track” policy.


  102. Larry Ledwick says:

    Story of a justifiable homicide situation in Florida, you have to watch both videos in sequence.
    Uber driver forced off the road for no apparent reason – defends himself (no gore)

    in car video dash cam from Uber driver’s point of view

    Sheriff explaining back story – moral don’t do this

  103. E.M.Smith says:


    I like that clarity: “Leave People Alone.”

    As the saying goes “An armed society is a polite society.” Either as the folks know it is a very bad idea to act like an aggressive jerk, or because Darwin makes choices…

  104. philjourdan says:

    @Larry – If the police department does not hire that guy immediately, they are being short sighted! That is the kind of police officer I want around here.

  105. E.M.Smith says:


    They will need to wait for the inevitable civil suit to be dismissed… give them a month. (All the while sliding him an application and scheduling interviews…)

    At least, that is how I’d be handling it…

    To the press: “Yes, we have called him in for repeated questioning today”

    To him: “So do you like your coffe black or sweet? Would a next month start day work for you?”

  106. Larry Ledwick says:

    In world weather news Super Typhoon Jebi it setting some records. Currently located north west of Guam heading roughly west.

    KOAA News 5 Retweeted

    Sam Schreier
    15 minutes ago
    Super Typhoon Jebi has become the strongest storm on earth so far in 2018 with a minimum central pressure recorded at 911 millibars. This storm has sustained winds of 175 mph



    !73 mph winds sustained with gusts to 207 mph.

  107. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well that was supposed to be 173 mph but the exclamation point is an appropriate typo.

  108. Another Ian says:

    WTF moment for the morning

    “Eco-psychology: NEW Free helpline, handbook, for climate change mental illness”


    Suggestion in comments

    September 1, 2018 at 6:43 am · Reply

    Perhaps a copy of The Skeptics Handbook could be prescribed by her at the same time. That should ease the pain! I sense an opportunity Jo!”


  109. Another Ian says:

    Be even more wary of anything WWF is aiming to save you from!

    World Wildlife Fund kills eleven critically endangered black rhinos in publicity stunt.

    Link at


  110. H.R. says:

    @Another Ian: Jeezy PETE! 11 black rhinos?!?

    I would have figured killing just one would have you in the hangman’s noose. And of course, everybody involved is blaming everybody else; “Not me!”

    It was a horrible death for the rhinos. Hang ’em all and let the spirits of the black rhinos sort ’em out.

  111. A C Osborn says:

    Larry Ledwick says: 31 August 2018 at 5:28 pm
    Well that was supposed to be 173 mph but the exclamation point is an appropriate typo.

    Looking at NuSchool Earth they have their Kmph and Mph mixed up, it looks like about 155Kmph at the moment.
    But they like to quote the “Satellite estimated” wind speed much higher up in the storm because it is always a lot higher.

  112. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I think we need a new “snide wise saying”. In addition to “I’m from the Government and I’m here to help you” as cause for immediate and rapid evacuation; we now need “I’m from an NGO and I’m here to helps you”.

    Referencing an earlier video about shooting… “Leave The Rhino ALONE!”…

    They did find for Millions of Years without our “help”. All they really need is for us to leave them the hell alone…

  113. E.M.Smith says:

    It is interesting that now donating a few $thousand (as a corporation) to the CALIFORNIA Republicans (that are basically liberal democrats but not full on socialists…) gets you a shout-down, boycott and labeled a “racist”.


    See, In-N-Out donated to them, so now some left wing-nuts called for a boycott. Guess I gotta find me an In-N-Out near Orlando… ;-)

    Perhaps the 1/2 of the Nation that voted for Trump needs to get a list of EVERY corporation that donated to Hillary or the DNC and boycott them, eh? A little fairness and balance?

    FWIW, In-N-Out makes a fine burger. The fries are a little bland ( a consequence of using very fresh oil all the time. More healthy, but the flavor ends up “too clean”… the best fries in terms of flavor come from slightly old oil that’s had chicken and other things fried in it to raise the animal fat content… but that’s no longer PC.) But they make a very nice fry. Just real potatoes and oil.

    Beats the hell out of McDonald’s and the Burger King crappy fries…

    So, OK, time to mob In-N-Out with lines down the block and around the corner ordering a “double double & fries” ;-)

  114. E.M.Smith says:

    Damn! Looks like they are regional, not national. Being “from the region” I’d not realized. On their site, looking for a location “by State”, only these States are listed:

    Arizona, California, Nevada, Oregon, Texas, Utah

    Interesting that they skipped over New Mexico…

    OK, so I’ll have to wait for the trip back to hit an In-N-Out. Saw one in Arizona IIRC on the way in. Every one I drive past, I’m buying.

  115. cdquarles says:

    That would make them the Western equivalent to Whataburger, here in the South. About McD’s fries, they used to be among the best. What changed? The oil they’re cooked in, and yes, they do cook their chicken and fish products in the same oil that they use for fries. You don’t use the fish fry oil for the potatoes, though. They got complaints about that.

  116. Larry Ledwick says:
  117. Another Ian says:

    Looks like a start on the “undebatable”

    “The Great Climate Change Debate: William Happer v. David Karoly, Part A”


    Obviously this arrived “just in time”

    “Eco-psychology: NEW Free helpline, handbook, for climate change mental illness”


  118. Another Ian says:

    Latest Pointman

    “The Autumn offensive for the mid-terms begins.”


  119. philjourdan says:

    Beats the hell out of McDonald’s and the Burger King crappy fries…

    Back in the early 90s, McD’s had the best fries bar none! I would stop while driving around the state and just get fries (their burgers were – well that has not changed). It was the oil they used. Then the SJWs got to them and they are the pits now.

    But then I did not eat at In-N-Out until the early 21st century, so they may have been better, But I do like In-N-Out burgers! Better than 5 guys! (5 guys fries are the best now however).

  120. philjourdan says:

    @CD – ” What changed? The oil they’re cooked in,”

    Should have read your comment before repeating it!

  121. tom0mason says:

    You may or may not be interested in reports of spy infrastructure has big problems. Apparently computer systems and satellite systems are down.

    There are plenty of other reports online. Whether this is real or not who knows?

  122. jim2 says:

    I did not watch the McCain funeral, but caught some clips of it on other shows. One clipped featured Obama saying “American values” should transcend politics. He and other lefties like to bandy about that term, “American values,” but I don’t recall them defining it. Judging from their actions, they believe it to mean Marxism or even Chinese values. They seem to want total control of our lives and freedoms. To me American values implies at a minimum fealty to the Constitution and the Rule of Law.

    And of course there is a lot of BS on the Sunday network talk shows, all of which lean left, about bridging the political divide. This political divide has existed since the United States came into existence. It has been bridged from time to time in response to extraordinary circumstances, but having it bridged as a matter of course if not even desirable. Yet, they continue to mourn the divide. Irrational at best.

  123. p.g.sharrow says:

    Yes, the modern left fights to fundamentally change American Values and in their doublespeak pledge to protect “American Values” For them “To bridge the Political Divide” means those intransigent Americans must join them in their New World Order of one world governance under Communist Ideals. The original colonies were at first organized under socialist ideals and were failing until that was changed into a more capitalistic system. For thousands of years every time socialism is tried it fails on human behavior. Capitalism is the only economic system that works over time…pg

  124. Another Ian says:

    jim2 and pg

    Try the item and link I just put in Tips

  125. p.g.sharrow says:

    For those that might be interested, the quakes in Kilauea have changed as the eruption in the Rift has ended and the numbers of quakes there greatly decreased. .
    There are now quakes more wide spread throughout the Island both in area and depth, like the whole island is beginning to flex…pg

  126. philjourdan says:

    Actions have consequences. And sometimes they affect your neighbors. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/virginia/articles/2018-09-02/tourism-still-suffering-after-the-red-hen-denied-sanders

    The Little Red Hen did it all her self. I wonder how well the other businesses will now feel towards the proprietors of the restaurant that just caused half the country to boycott them, and indeed, most of the part that actually pays for things?

    Lexington is a conservative city. It may or may not be Trump territory, but it is home to VMI (a very storied and old Military college). I suspect the bigots at the Red Hen are going to find out about shunning themselves as the rest of the community shuns them.

  127. Jeff says:

    Conservative Treehouse has an article on it, too. It appears that Lexington is having a difficult time of it, and the other businesses are rather cheesed off at the “pinko-hat” gang at the Red Hen…


  128. E.M.Smith says:

    All they need to do is convince the Red Hen to close, then burn the building down on national TV… then I might consider visiting the city…. to pee on the ashes…

  129. Another Ian says:

    A friend sent this

    “Our Rulers’ ChiCainery, by Robert Gore”


  130. Larry Ledwick says:

    This is interesting, Australian kill bot designed to patrol the Great Barrier reef and kill the crown of thorns star fish which feeds on the coral. Due to a lack of natural predators the COT starfish is taking a toll on the reef so they have developed an autonomous small underwater drone which identifies the COT star fish visually at 99.4% accuracy and then kills it by injecting it with bile salts.


  131. Jon K says:

    Draining the swamp – stealth mode. https://americandigitalnews.com/2018/08/31/oig-semiannual-audit-results/#.W46QfM5KiUl

    I’m very happy to see that work is being done out of the public eye.

  132. E.M.Smith says:

    @Jon K:

    WOW! ONE item from that link:

    Our Office of Investigations reported 217 arrests, 280 indictments, and 272 convictions, as well as $84.9 million in recoveries and restitutions. IN A 6 MONTH PERIOD!👊

    First up, The SNAP Program
    The first example of FRAUD the IG reported was 1 Convenience store trafficked MORE THAN 3.4 MILLION in SNAP Benefits in one year. 1 STORE!!😲

    👉In U.S. District Court, Middle District of Florida, the owners of a convenience store in Orlando, Florida, were sentenced in December 2017 for trafficking SNAP benefits.

    The investigation disclosed that the two owners gave customers cash, alcoholic beverages, and tobacco products in exchange for SNAP benefits. The owners pled guilty to wire fraud and were sentenced to 33 months in prison, followed by 24 months of supervised release. They were also ordered to pay joint restitution totaling $3.4 million.

    No wonder the other politicians all hate him; Trump is shutting dowen the graft and kickbacks pipelines,,,

  133. Larry Ledwick says:

    In old news (literally) discovery of a 7000 year old settlement in Egypt (circa 5000 BC)


  134. Another Ian says:

    I’ve just finished reading Sharyl Attkisson’s “The Smear”.

    No wonder Trump isn’t too keen on “fake news”

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