W.O.O.D. – 14 September 2018


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:
and remains open for threads running there
(at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

So use “Tips” for “Oooh, look at the interesting ponder thing!”
and “W.O.O.D” for “Did you see what just happened?! What did you think about it?”

What’s Going On?

I’m back in California. Didn’t see any Tesla’s on the return run either until I reached California. I’m pretty much caught up on sleep (at last…) and starting to catch up on all the things that didn’t get done while I was gone.

in The News:

We’ve got a hurricane hitting the East Coast (and an open thread for it) and one hitting Hawaii that everyone outside Hawaii seems to be ignoring:



Olivia I think is the current one and it was a near miss, but lots of flooding from the rains.

It looks like the Democrats are trying to sink or at least delay the vote on Kavanaugh with Feinstein having Yet Another Mystery Dossier with some unidentified person claiming something unknown (but implied bad) and the “information” sent off to our Besties Frendsies of the FBI… Yeah, right. The play seems to be an attempt to delay a vote until after the midterms in the hope of grabbing the Senate so they can then block all of them. Going all out on the lies and deception, along with a full court press on silencing the opposition and censoring all things conservative.

Really making a reputation for themselves… At this point I don’t see how I can ever vote for any Democrat again. I’m an independent leaning Libertarian and HAVE voted for Democrats in the past. I just can’t vote for that much deception, mean nasty attitudes, and subterfuge.

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93 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 14 September 2018

  1. gallopingcamel says:

    Disgusting tactics by people like Feinstein will never stop until there are negative consequences for dishonorable behavior.

    The GOP leadership should demand that Feinstein be stripped of her committee memberships. I am not holding my breath.

  2. gallopingcamel says:

    Here in Mebane (North Carolina) we have weather maps showing five inches of rain over the next two days which sounds pretty benign given that we have already had two storms (completely ignored by the “Media”) with four inches of rain since March.

    If we are still here on Saturday I will send a report!

  3. gallopingcamel says:

    Even though I lived in Florida for most of the last ten years I considered Rick Scott a spineless RINO, so I was surprised when he jumped on the Trump bandwagon.

    It turns out that his commitment to Trump was dishonorable (Fake Honor). He did not hesitate to support the CNN narrative that 3,000 people died as a result of the Puerto Rico hurricanes last year. The real death toll is ~85.

    Marco Rubio had a great political future until he revealed himself by joining the gang of eight.

    Likewise Ron DeSantis had a great political future until he revealed himself by supporting “Fake News” CNN without hesitation while denying Donald Trump. He needs to walk it back with abject “mea culpas” or switch to the Democrat ticket.

  4. ray warkentin says:

    I’ve made comments recently in relation to some things in America that might make it seem that I have a negative bias but it’s just that I figured it’s mostly an American audience here. Canada has more than its share of problems just like everyone else. Take health care for example since I recently had occasion to engage the system.

    As you know we have universal government run health care here. The governments, provincial and federal, cover all of the costs and supply most of the services such as hospitals as well. Health care is actually a provincial responsibility but the federal government supplies a significant portion of the funding via transfer payments. That way if a province wants to stray from the federal mandates or guidelines in health care they are threatened with funding cuts and brought back in line. In this country people are restricted from providing services from outside the system and you can’t access services outside of the system because they don’t exist. So I can’t even go to a lab and pay them to do a blood panel on me so that I can obtain information on my own health. That would be illegal. It would be unfair to the people who can’t afford to pay for such bloodwork or who don’t have the initiative or understanding to benefit from it.

    Anyway, a while back I contracted a parasite called giardia, a condition known as beaver fever. I’m sure I picked it up from all the swimming I do in a nearby mountain lake. Having been healthy all of my life I didn’t have a family doctor. I was hoping the diarrhea I had would resolve itself but it went on for more than two months and got much worse to the point of dehydration and electrolyte depletion. I diagnosed myself after thorough researching of the symptoms via a process of elimination. The cure is a course of flagyl. If I lived in Mexico or Thailand I could walk into any pharmacy and just buy it but here I need a prescription. So I needed to see a doctor. I called around but no doctor in my city of about 100,000 is taking new patients. The three walk-in clinics in the city are only open 4 hours a day and when I went to two of them they were closed when they were supposed to be open. I finally got to a clinic that was open but there were a couple of dozen people ahead of me and I had to wait 3 hours. The doctor insisted on doing bloodwork, urine work and stool samples and sent me to a lab. I had to wait another week for results, suffering the horrible symptoms all the while, finally got my flagyl and was cured in a few days.

    Most Canadians are proud of our health care system and you often hear it described as one of the best in the world or even as the best in the world. Yes, we have very qualified doctors and the latest high-tech equipment, so what’s the problem?
    Well, there is a severe shortage of doctors and nurses. Lots of people are without a family doctor because they can’t get one. If you have one you often have to wait days for an appointment and if referred to a specialist have to wait weeks to months to see one. Then if you need a CT scan or other imaging you have to wait weeks to months to get that done and then if you need a procedure or surgery you have to wait weeks to months for that. Many people have died from cancer or a heart attack while on waiting lists. Many others have suffered pain or limited mobility or other problems for months while waiting.

    There is also a hospital bed shortage. People can sometimes spend 2-3 days on an emergency room stretcher waiting for a bed or when admitted to a ward are stuck on a stretcher in the hallway or a supply room. The system has also become ridiculously bureaucratized. At one large Vancouver hospital a couple of what were patient wards were remodeled into office space to give residence to all the management and administration types as well as their receptionists and secretaries. When that wasn’t enough room they leased almost all of a six story building a block away for more office space. I know someone who worked in the infection control department. It morphed from one infection control nurse 30 years ago to a couple of dozen people. Every year some of them get sent to conferences around the world with airfare, hotels, and meals picked up by the taxpayer.

    Meanwhile healthcare money spent by the governments goes up every year. For several years it has gone up by more than population growth and inflation combined and is stressing government budgets but few people dare criticize the system because it is considered sacred. On the rare occasion when a conservative politician makes a few peeps about reform to reign in the costs he is immediately disparaged by the health care unions and the progressive press. As far as they are concerned, the problem is not enough money is being spent. If only those heart-numb politicians would spend the money all problems would be solved and we’d have health care nirvana. They really believe this.

    And don’t touch the structure of the system–despite the fact that government limiting the price paid for doctor visits, services and procedures, and limiting seats at medical and nursing schools, thereby guaranteeing shortages–don’t touch the structure of the system.

  5. Another Ian says:

    Jeremy Clarkson has a caustic look at the Canadian hospital system in one of his books

  6. H.R. says:

    @Ray: Thanks for confessing to being a Canadian. 😜

    I like reading here because E.M. has an international following. When the topic involves politics, I like reading what non-U.S. readers have to say. One thing I get out of those comments is a sense of the narrative the YSM (Yellow Stream Media) has been pushing outside the U.S.A. The narrative of course is being pushed so that other countries can squawk and add the appearance that “Everyone in the world agrees that…[whatever]” in order to influence U.S. politics.

    Also, I like getting a boots-on-the-ground report about how things actually are in other countries, such as your comment about your experiences with the Canadian healthcare system. If I only had the YSM reports to go on, all I’d hear about would be the rainbows and unicorns of Canadian healthcare system.

    Thanks, again.

  7. philjourdan says:

    Here in Mebane (North Carolina) we have weather maps showing five inches of rain over the next two days which sounds pretty benign given that we have already had two storms (completely ignored by the “Media”) with four inches of rain since March.

    @GC – We have had a very wet summer in the Mid-Atlantic. That is not good for the bullseye of Florence as there is no place left for the water to go (but flood).

    But while our forecast is lower than yours, 5 inches over 2 days is not abnormal this year and indeed, has already happened. But I am glad they are talking 2-4 inches here. The ground cannot take any more water, so it will all go into the streams and rivers.

  8. E.M.Smith says:


    I find it pleasant that the participants here range over the prior British Empire + some from Latin America and France. I’m not too “American Centric” and neither is the rest of us.

    BTW, criticism, when accurate, is a good thing… That’s the scientific method in a nut shell…

    For medical care there is one fundamental fact: There is a near infinite demand, especially near end of life.

    Now that one fact means you WILL ration health care services. That, then, leads to the next choice: You can ration via price – A person with a $Billion can choose to spend it on getting an added 3 weeks of life in a fancy hospital ward with expensive equipment (see Dick Cheney who got years more out of exotic heart equipment) – OR you can have waiting lines and lists for all and “death panels” who decide you are just not worth the cost of saving.

    That’s it.

    Ignoring those hard choices because you don’t like them will not make them go away.

    The American system has paid for all sorts of medical advances and equipment as the Rich Folks spend their fortunes for a few more weeks, months, or years of old age. The Canadian / English system just chucks expensive patients into the “Hospice” go off an die wards and buys cheap proven established drugs and generic care from mediocre staff (as the really gifted run off to America to become $Millionaires and play with the newest toys).

    That, too, is something folks just like to ignore.

    Then season with the fact that in the end ANY and EVERY government agency bloats up big time and sucks down massively more money for the comfort of the staff than any competitive industry. The reason is simple and obvious: A competitive industry must compete both for outcomes and for money. A government agency benefits from growing so it gets more budget and perks and spending more of the budget on their own “nest” than on the “service” they are expected to deliver. It is all about the best internal sales job and story, not about the external sales and reputation.

    FWIW, the English system at least allows some external private providers so you get some competition. My experience with their system had me going to the emergency room where nothing was done, then a “clinic” where nothing was done, then an external doctor where £10 got me the advice I needed.


    I “confess” to having an aunt and all her clan in Canada… and likely a lot more I don’t know about. They were just the W.W.II exports from England to Canada, and we’ve got a few generations before that moved about the globe. I know of some in Canada, Australia, USA, New Zealand, and possibly some more in between. 3 generations of sailors in HMS Merchant Marine….


    What folks need to appreciate is that 1/2 foot or a foot of water evenly distributed over rolling land runs all of a few hundred yards / meters down hill and becomes a 6 foot flood in the gullies… EVERYWHERE…

    I was in Texas when a downpour happened “over there” and in about 20 minutes there was a couple of foot geyser coming out the storm drain in the middle of the parking lot, flooding it (despite only a light drizzle where I was.) Needless to say I boogied out fast.

    When rain is measured in feet, you WILL have “flash flooding” of any low areas and even the drainage system becomes your enemy as, at over capacity, it becomes a conduit from high areas to those low areas.

  9. ray warkentin says:

    In a more narrow sense the Canadian medical system can do a good job. It works on a triage basis, so if you are seriously injured in a car accident for instance and brought to the emergency in an ambulance you can expect very good treatment. If you need a CT scan you will immediately get it and the person previously booked will get bumped.
    Also if you develop an acute problem that is severe enough and present yourself at a hospital emergency and convince them that the problem warrants it, you will be pushed to the front and get what you need. Of course this pushes all the routine stuff for people in line back. It also encourages people to present themselves to the hospital emergency for less urgent things to try to front-run the system and all of the delays.

  10. ray warkentin says:

    I don’t like to circle back to a recent old discussion that has become stale but will do it anyway because I cant resist. I won’t elaborate but just paste an excerpt of an article by a Gary Evans because it expresses a view of a possible or even likely future that I have expressed and touches on the role of the federal reserve and the helicopter money I talked about. I won’t post a link because its not important and it’s the content that is food for thought.

    People’s QE Is Coming

    Because the wealth disparity is so vast, as it has become in the past seven years, the efficacy of asset inflating or, what we call “jack asset” monetary policy diminishes, and more and more Fed stimulus is needed; as are higher, and higher asset prices.

    That is why we believe that during the next recession, the Fed will be forced to roll out some sort of “people’s QE.” That is, the direct financing of consumption, possibly in the form of financing a universal basic income, the direct bailout of public pensions, and the funding a massive jobs facility, for example.

    Ray Dalio seems to agree that such policies are only a few years away.

    Of course, the new QE will likely be executed through the direct purchase of Treasury securities earmarked for such programs.

    Smells Like Argentina

    Wow, this smells a lot like late 1980’s Argentina. I was there and witnessed very similar policies. The major difference is the Argentine austral was not a reserve currency.

    A “people’s QE” will supposedly ensure the new liquidity is injected directly into the hands of those who will spend it, generating the demand to lift the economy out of its morass.

    Sticking with the old QE policy, or just augmenting it with the Fed’s direct purchase of equities and corporate bonds, will prove ineffective due to the growing wealth disparity. The marginal propensities to consume of high net worth groups approach zero as wealth increases.

    End Game

    The result will most likely be a disaster. The dollar will tank and its role as the world’s reserve currency will be over. Yes, there will be another deflation scare but it will sow the seeds of inflation as the policies mentioned above are ushered in. Are you listening, deflationistas?

    Maybe the Fed should have never have ventured down this road, transforming the economy into the asset driven beast that it now is, but we are way beyond the Rubicon Crossing, folks.

  11. jim2 says:

    Ray W. – I’m having trouble understanding the problem with “income inequality.” If Jeff Bezos suddenly begins making twice as much money, I won’t suddenly have less monney and I’m still going to have a relatively comfortable lifestyle. It just doesn’t matter to me how much he makes. It matters how much I make.

    In the meantime, he will do something with some, probably a good bit, of his money. He will invest it, start new businesses, spend it, whatever.

    So, could you explain why I should care about “income inequality?”

  12. E.M.Smith says:


    That’s a load of paranoid bunk. Unconnected to real economics. THE most glaring error is calling what is essentially Closet Socialism “People’s QE”. Quantitative Easing is a MONETARY policy. Spending money, bailouts, and negative income tax (“basic income”) are FISCAL policies. Their statement is like calling gasoline food because they both have “calories” in them. Just nuts.

    Yes, we already know that Socialism and its policies of handing out money fail. Hiding it in a “new” name as “people’s QE” and trying to claim it’s a (soon coming) banking / monetary policy is just crazy talk (though does sell articles to the naive).

    At present, there is ZERO need for any kind of QE. In fact, the thing that is needed now is a very slow and gradual quantitative tightening. We’ve already seen the start of that with a couple of very very small upticks in interest rates.

    As to there being some threat to the $US as a reserve currency: Show me your alternative.

    Euro? – a complex neo-Holy Roman Empire + Socialism Lite in the first stages of disassembly.

    British Pound? – not big enough and under a cloud for the next few years as Brexit winds up. AFTER that, with some stability and a global perspective, it might have a shot as part of a basket.

    Swiss Franc? – Way too small. Gets pushed all over the exchange rates any time someone gets a tiny little worry going.

    Russian Ruble, Chinese Yuan, Indian Rupee, etc. etc. – both too small AND subject to political whim and instability. Frequent exchange crisis historically with exchange freezes. (India most recently).

    Gold & Silver? – not nearly enough for global trade unless you drive gold up to $100,000+ / ounce

    Japanese Yen? – With their demographic implosion baked in the cake? No way.

    The simple fact is that there is no alternative. It’s the best whore in the whore house.

    I suggest finding some less paranoid reading sources.

  13. philjourdan says:

    @Ray – Ever heard of Danny Williams?

    Follow the money (bang for the buck if you are a buyer).

  14. p.g.sharrow says:

    I once tried to point out to a Banker that he “all bankers” chase the winning game of last year. Throwing money at it in their attempts to maximize their ROA. This causes a boom then bust in over speculation in that particular field. He would hear nothing of it. Real bankers, investors, invest in their local economy to grow with it.. Speculators jump in to ride the boom up and cash out causing the bust. They are not interested growing wealth, they are interested in harvesting other peoples wealth creation. Speculators require BIG money to make their plays. This requires the assets from a money center bank, so the push, is to use local banks to gather the money on Main street to be loaned out by the money center banks for speculation while the real wealth creators on Main street. are starved. During the run up, Main, street can borrow money from their local bank but in the speculation and crash faze they are locked out and the local economy crashes as the local money supply contracts. The Federal Reserve was supposed to counter this but they are captive to the money center banks. So the banker induced boom and bust is visited on everyone…pg

  15. E.M.Smith says:


    I’d like to respectfully disagree with you.

    I really really would.

    Unfortunately I have no data, proof, information, nor even speculation that is in disagreement with the scenario you painted…

    Maybe next year…. /sarc;

  16. gallopingcamel says:

    ray warkentin, 14 September 2018 at 4:24 am
    “I’ve made comments recently in relation to some things in America that might make it seem that I have a negative bias but it’s just that I figured it’s mostly an American audience here. Canada has more than its share of problems just like everyone else. Take health care for example since I recently had occasion to engage the system.”

    Canada has a single payer system just like the UK. All the problems you describe are depressingly familiar to me given that I lived in the UK until 1982. Even so, single payer systems function better than the “Crony Capitalist” medical system here in the good old USA:

    Here in the USA drug price gouging is on an epic scale yet none of the people who represent me or my son in Washington have responded to my repeated attempts to contact them over the last three months (Burr & Tillis in the Senate and Walker & Price in the House). Here is one of my presentations:









    EPIPEN MYLAN 2.00 600.00 PEN 29,900
    NALOXONE KALEO 937.50 4,687.50 PACK 400
    THIOLA RETROPHIN 1.50 30.00 PILL 1,900
    ALOQUIN NOVUM 241.00 9,651.00 TUBE 3,905
    ACTHAR QUESTCOR 40.00 34,000.00 VIAL 84,900
    VIAGRA PFIZER 7.00 24.00 PILL 243
    LUCENTIS GENENTECH 60.00 2,300.00 DOSE 3,733

    DARAPRIM TURING 13.50 750.00 PILL 5,456
    TETRACYCLINE MANY 0.034 2.36 PILL 6,841
    ERYTHROMYCIN MANY 0.24 8.96 PILL 3,633
    URSODIOL MANY 0.45 5.10 CAP 1,033
    CLOBETASOL MANY 9.99 249.05 TUBE 2,393
    DEXTROSE IV BAXTER 2.00 928.00 BAG 46,300

    COLCHICINE MUTUAL 0.10 5.00 PILL 4,900
    DEFLAZACORT MUTUAL 20.00 1,712.00 WEEK 8,458
    NEOSTIGMINE FLAMEL 17.00 100.00 VIAL 4,822
    170HP K-V 15.00 1,450.00 WEEK 9,567

    The lack of response is easy to understand when you realize that health care lobbyists spend $875,000 per year for every congressman and senator. That is why lobbyists are heard while voters are ignored.

  17. gallopingcamel says:

    Those tables did not come out as I expected so here it is again. The dollar columns show how prices have changed (mostly since 2012) while the right hand column shows the % increase:


    DEXTROSE IV……….BAXTER………………2.00………928.00……BAG..46,300


  18. ossqss says:

    Keep an eye on Sunspot NM. Strange things going on.

  19. ossqss says:

    Just checkin….


    10 years and we still have a silent part of the equation. Been a while so, it is what it is.


    And SOHO


    At least ya got something to check out now many have not see prior. ;-)

  20. E.M.Smith says:

    Sunspot New Mexico? What is happening there?

    Just sayin’ a couple more words might be clearer what I’m supposed to “Go Fish!” for…

  21. jim2 says:

    Given the fact the Post Office as well as the observatory was closed leads me to speculate there may have been a threat or actual delivery of a problematic letter or package.

  22. llanfar says:

    Interesting that Trump is advocating a specific show later today…

  23. ossqss says:

    Sorry, I neglected to insert the link in the first post. Oh well. Here is part 2 anyhow.


  24. H.R. says:

    Here’s a little Sunday night humor to give you a chuckle before you trundle off to bed.

    I can’t really ever recall linking to the YSM Flagship NYTs, but this one, labeled ‘Opinion,’ though it rightfully should have been labeled ‘Delirium, is too funny to pass up.

    Here’s the one that really cracked me up
    Look around, and you can see the lingering effects of the financial crisis just about everywhere — everywhere, that is, except in the most commonly cited economic statistics. So who are you going to believe: those statistics, or your own eyes?

    Uh… I’ll go with “My own lyin’ eyes for $2,000, Alex.” Definitely not this snake oil peddling excuse of a salesman for the GEBs.

    I could be wrong, but I don’t think I’ve gone into any business establishment in the past 6 months that didn’t have a “Help Wanted” or “Now Hiring” sign.

    I need to buy a dime bag of whatever this dude is smoking.
    P.S. Fishing has been very strong for the past week or so and will only get better. The fish are definitely on their Fall feed to fatten up for Winter. Just about have to hide behind a tree to bait your hook. My shoulder is very sore from all that casting. I am not complaining… besides, it doesn’t generate an ounce of sympathy from Mrs. H.R. (“Your shoulder is hurting from fishing? Bless your little heart you poor dear.” Drip, drip, drip,DRIP, sarcasm.)

  25. E.M.Smith says:

    Looks like a Bimbo Eruption for Kavenaugh.

    Went all the way back to High School to work up a claim that he was feeling up some girl (who only now manages to say she didn’t like it and was afraid… )

    She did take a lie detector test and passed, but do they have the granularity to detect exaggeration or misrepresentation of actual facts? I don’t think so…

    So let’s see now, to be a future appointee you need to have never had awkward relationships and clumsy approach / attempts in high school? Leaves out everyone I know…

  26. Larry Ledwick says:

    On twitter several reports from former students that she is a total nut case, – bad enough that they dropped her class.

  27. ossqss says:

    The SCOTUS item is ridiculous. The Dem’s had that since July and are trying to maximize anything they can with timing, and will still fail.

    I am just glad I am not running for office, for if they wanted to check my middle/high school history chasing anything, they would probably find something there. Just sayin, who didn’t? LOL

  28. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well this is interesting if it checks out:

    From twitter
    Larry Beech @Larry_Beech

    Folks…Christine Ford’s mom (Paula k blasey) and dad (Ralph G Blasey) we’re defendants in a foreclosure case in Maryland in 1996. Guess who the judge was?

    Martha G Kavanaugh, mother of Brett Kavanaugh.

    You can’t make this $hit up😉

    8:50 PM – 16 Sep 2018

    Larry Beech @Larry_Beech
    32 minutes ago
    It appears there was an ongoing judgement starting at least in 1990….7 c cases culminating in a foreclosure case in 1996, for which Martha Kavanaugh was the judge. There was also a 1982 contract case but I can’t determine the details there.

    Larry Beech @Larry_Beech
    30 minutes ago

    Her father appears to have been an attorney…tons of cases referencing that. His relationship professionally with Kavanaugh should be looked I as well. There’s more to this story than originally appeared.

    Larry Beech @Larry_Beech
    7 minutes ago
    It’s not so much the disposition of a single case but that there is a lot more going on behind the scenes regarding connections between the blaseys and Kavanaugh than has been yet revealed.

  29. Larry Ledwick says:


    Sierra_USA @Sierra_AMV

    Replying to @ThomasWictor
    The friend the woman alleged to be in the room with Kavanaugh was writer Mark Judge, who attended Georgetown Prep with nominee. On Friday, Judge told Weekly Standard that no such incident took place.“It’s just absolutely nuts, ”he said.“I never saw Brett act that way.”#SheIsALiar

  30. Simon Derricutt says:

    A C Osborn – Mike told me he’d got the grant, but didn’t tell all the details. I think his explanation makes sense, and the problem is how to make something that actually does block the Unruh waves. I’ve passed Mike the details of Alzofon’s theory and experiment, and it’s (just) possible that he’ll try that. I suspect Alzofon’s theory (and the UFO connection) may be a bit too far for most people, though, and he’d only go for that experiment if I can first demonstrate that it actually works. I feel that if you add Mike’s ideas to Alzofon’s, then they fit together nicely and explain a lot, but of course it goes against General Relativity and the standard explanations of gravity. As such, it needs experimental proof before it’s going to go anywhere, and it’s the sort of experiment that gets people branded as crackpots and loses the reputation – unless it works. I think the chances are pretty good that it will work, and haven’t a reputation to lose, so we’ll see what happens. Mike said he’s interested in the results, so there’s a pathway available to high-powered development once the initial Catch-22 is overcome.

  31. Larry Ledwick says:

    More interesting connections on the Kavanaugh charges:


    From twitter:
    Bret Baier Retweeted
    Saagar Enjeti Verified account
    12 minutes ago

    KAVANAUGH’S high school girlfriend: “In every situation where we were together he always respectful, kind and thoughtful. The accusations leveled against him in no way represent the decent young man I knew.”

  32. Larry Ledwick says:

    Rig the boat for storm weather and high seas – declassification in coming!

    Statement from the Press Secretary

    At the request of a number of committees of Congress, and for reasons of transparency, the President has directed the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to provide for the immediate declassification…

    10 minutes ago
    of the following materials: (1) pages 10-12 and 17-34 of the June 2017 application to the FISA court in the matter of Carter W. Page; (2) all FBI reports of interviews with Bruce G. Ohr prepared in connection with the Russia investigation;

    10 minutes ago
    and (3) all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with all Carter Page FISA applications.

    In addition, President Donald J. Trump has directed the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to publicly release all text messages relating to the Russia investigation,

    10 minutes ago
    without redaction, of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr.

  33. Larry Ledwick says:

    Ooops – sucks when you get shot down by an ally using equipment you sold them.


  34. Larry Ledwick says:

    Sometimes you just stumble on a fun thread on twitter – enjoy


  35. p.g.sharrow says:

    Well now we know that Russian AntiAircraft weapons work on Russian planes…pg

  36. Larry Ledwick says:

    SpaceX web cast on the BFR rocket
    (fast forward to about 29 minutes unless you like just listening to music.


  37. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting project tied to his trip to the moon.
    Japanese buisness man Yusaku Maezawa is purchasing all the seats on the first flight and will invite 6-8 artists to ride with him to the moon and then do appropriate art projects on their return to commemorate this first civilian orbit of the moon and their experiences.


  38. E.M.Smith says:

    @AC Osborn:
    Oh boy… yet more physics I don’t know as it was created after i was graduated…

    It looks interesting. “Unruh radiation” is a new idea for me, and I can see how it could work, but also how it might not. Someone with a $Million needs to test it – which I think was their point.

    That the guy has already found a way to explain galaxy rotation without resort to “dark crap” is a huge point in his favor. If that holds up it’s the kind of thing that real Nobel Prizes are for.


    Just when I thought my opinion of the DNC was as low as it could get… Now it looks like they have once again gone to the art of Character Assassination using The Big Lie. I’d plead “Have they no honor?” but I already know the answer…

    Per the Russian shoot down:

    “Moscow blamed Israel for putting its aircraft in the line of fire, Russian state news agency RIA-Novosti reported. ”

    So did the Israelis get a “Two Fer” by getting Russia whacked with “friendly fire”? Crafty fellows…

    Per Declassification:

    That’s gonna be fun… So what’s in there that POTUS thinks will make the public go “WT?…” while at the same time causing ‘splody heads at the DNC? Oh My…

    I get the impression the “October Surprise” is about to run headlong into the “Trump Counter Punch”…

  39. philjourdan says:

    “Trump Counter Punch”…

    Re: Kavanaugh

    What bugs me (but not in a bad way) is – Trump’s demeanor. I have not been able to figure out what he has up his sleeve yet. I know that many are combing over Web Archives to see what she deleted in preparation for the letter coming out. So it will not be that simple. But I suspect it will be devastating. I guess we have to wait and see.

  40. E.M.Smith says:


    We also know the Russian IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) didn’t work very well…


    Watched a round of Network News this morning. LOTS of talking dirt about Kavenaugh (sometimes via association with actual sexual misconduct or by inclusion of words like “rape” that are not what was asserted happened). Not a peep about their family history of his mom, as judge, rejecting her dad’s cases / foreclosure. Not a peep about her DNC connections.

    They did say she had contacted her representative, Anna Echoo who “helped her write her letter” to Dianne Feinstein…

    So how many of US get personal help writing letters from our Congress Critters? Or even get a returned phone call? Or ANYTHING more than a “go away kid you bother me, but give me your vote” form letter?

    This is just looking stinkier and stinkier like a set-up from the start. No crime was even asserted. Just a hyped version of “I didn’t like it”. So riddle me this: What was a 15 year old girl doing at a high school age party where kids were drinking (supposedly unsupervised)? Eh? How about we drag her parents in for Child Abuse and Child Negligence or whatever it’s being called now. Child Endangerment? Why was nothing ever said for 36 years if being grabbed while in a bedroom (why was she in a bedroom?…) at a party (why was she at a party?) was so horrible an experience? Eh?

    There is simply no way a person can “defend” against such an assertion from 2/3 of a lifetime ago and as a minor. Do YOU remember who was at all the parties you attended in High School & College? What witnesses can you call in your defense? What about when you were NOT at a particular party; do you know where you were on that particular day and what you were doing? What if she was drunk too and just got confused as to what boy was grabbing her, who testifies to that, this late in the game?

    Now, knowing that impossibility, and given the clear love of lies, deception, and corruption by the Clinton / Obama molded DNC / Democratic party (see FISA fraud and Russiagate and more…) what are the odds it’s a put-up job? Higher or lower than an “assault” (that doesn’t sound like an assault but more like bedroom play a bit out of hand by novices) being unreported for 36 years and only now becoming so traumatic it just must be put on the national news… just in time to scuttle the vote?

    It just stinks of fraud for effect.

  41. H.R. says:

    @E.M.: Or… Ford just made it all up. She’s a team player for the “Stop Kavanaugh At All Costs” team.

    There really doesn’t have to be any truth or evidence. It’s just the seriousness of the accusation that matters.

  42. Larry Ledwick says:

    The DNC and related political critters don’t realize they are crossing the line into the “boy who cried wolf” region and people are just starting to blow them off when they pull these stunts. They are even getting some blow back from people on the left who still have ethics, they are just not bright enough to see that train coming.

  43. E.M.Smith says:


    That train left the station for me back with Hillary and the Sledge Hammer Phones…

  44. philjourdan says:

    @EM – I actually do remember who was at the parties in HS that we had drinking (it was legal – I went to school in Deutschland). But not college. But then nothing occurred like this at them. Just some kids getting hammered and being carried home by the friends. As it was in Germany, no one drove, we all walked or rode public transportation.

    And I do not believe Ford. I think it is a setup. But proving it……that is the $64 issue. That is why I am watching Trump like a hawk. He is playing this too calmly. He has something, and that is the reason Ford is waffling about testifying now. She has skeletons and Trump knows them. If they do pursue this course, I think the effects will be devastating for Feinstein and Schumer (as well as Ford).

    Notice that there has not been a lot of revelations about her since she went public? A girl that goes to drinking parties at 15 does not change habits over night. The information is there, but someone is sitting on it.

  45. Larry Ledwick says:

    People also don’t factor in that President Trump still has his own private security team in addition to formal Secret Service protection, I bet they got tasked with a deep dive into her background possibly long before this broke if he got leaked that it was coming.

    You don’t survive long in the cut throat environment of big dollar developer in NY if you don’t have all your ducks in a row, and keep tabs on those that would cause you problems.

    I think you are right, someone whispered in her ear about something and she is getting very cold feet.

  46. cdquarles says:

    Best of my recollection of those days, 40+ years ago, is that I’d never attended a house party during my high school years and the college parties were in the dorms or fraternity/sorority houses mostly. There were intoxicants indulged in during those; but if I was driving, I avoided the intoxicants; particularly once I knew what my own limits were. Those that I hosted in my apartment never had such an incident, at least while I was there. If my roomie hosted some when I was out studying or working, I can’t say anything about those.

  47. cdquarles says:

    Now there were rumors of stuff happening on the high school band trips. I’d never seen anything untoward nor participated in such; and that’s with chaperones being present.

  48. philjourdan says:

    Hmmmmmm….. The plot thickens! Twitter has a rumor that this same woman also wrote a letter to DiFi with the same claims against Gorsuch. If true, Trump has a copy of that letter. And that is why he is so calm about it.

  49. E.M.Smith says:


    How would Twitter know?…

  50. jim2 says:

    Hmmmm … sounds like the makin’s of a phone to me …

    Over on the EEVblog, someone noticed an interesting chip that’s been apparently flying under our radar for a while. This is an ARM processor capable of running Linux. It’s hand-solderable in a TQFP package, has a built-in Mali GPU, support for a touch panel, and has support for 512MB of DDR3. If you do it right, this will get you into the territory of a BeagleBone or a Raspberry Pi Zero, on a board that’s whatever form factor you can imagine. Here’s the best part: you can get this part for $1 USD in large-ish quantities. A cursory glance at the usual online retailers tells me you can get this part in quantity one for under $3. This is interesting, to say the least.


  51. E.M.Smith says:


    I’d be more inclined to the more expensive SOM as it’s already soldered and has all the parts you need installed…


    21 € so not cheap… but with a nice small form factor 3.3 x 6.1 cm or about 1.5 by 2.5 inches.

  52. jim2 says:

    SOM – nice.

  53. ossqss says:

    I ran across an old video link produced by the Koch bro’s that may be worth viewing. Some might find it interesting.


  54. H.R. says:

    Here’s stupidity at its finest. I weep in despair for our country.

    The Baltimore Orioles are the first team ever to have Braille jerseys. It’s just printed on their jerseys in large dots. I’m assuming they conducted studies to determine how large the dots needed to be so the Braille is easily visible from anywhere in the ballpark.


    OTOH, it may be for the benefit of the umpires. Every home team fan knows the umpires are blind, right?

  55. A C Osborn says:

    philjourdan says: 18 September 2018 at 5:55 pm
    “Notice that there has not been a lot of revelations about her since she went public? ”

    Phil, there has been loads of “stuff” comung out about her.
    a quick summary
    She admits to sleeping with 200 males between the ages of 15 & 17.
    Her Parents lost a very expensive case where Kavanaugh’s Mother was the Judge.
    She is a Democrat Activist.
    She Contributed to Clinton’s campaign.
    She has had reversion therapy.
    She signed a letter against Trump’s Border policies.
    Her brother worked for Fusion GPS.
    She has worn the Pussy hat in a March.
    That is without going back over all the things in the media, whether they are true or not I don’t know..

  56. A C Osborn says:

    Have you guys read the letter from the 4 members of the Gang of 8?
    Wow, they openly admit to obstructing an Active President in the running of his Government and want even more of the same Obstruction of Justice.

  57. p.g.sharrow says:

    Not since 1860 has the country been so divided between those that want to preserve our Constitutional Republic and those that want to “Fundamentally” change America into something else, Again the Republicans are the “Conservatives” that want to preserve the Republic and the Democrats want something else based on democratic ” Mob” rule.
    This time it is “Elite” Liberal Progressive Socialists or Communists that have taken over the Democratic party and want to destroy something that works, in exchange for their Utopia that has never worked every time it has been tried. Again they will be turned back, but at what cost? Communists will willingly destroy everything to gain power, Use any means to prevail. They had planned to use to the power of government to force the people into submission with their “new” way. The loss of control over the court system is the loss of their last chance at this gambit….pg

  58. jim2 says:

    Project Veritas has unmasked two socialists in the swamp who are perusing their political agenda using Federal resources and intel. Here’s the second unmasking. Can you say: “You’re FIRED!!!”?


  59. E.M.Smith says:

    @AC Osborn:

    That’s quite a letter… Swamp critters trying to control information flow…

    Rosenstein needs to go. Along with many others…

  60. E.M.Smith says:


    From the OMG! department…

    It’s one thing to think they might be doing it.
    It’s something else entirely to suspect that they are doing it.
    Then it’s a whole ‘nother world when you see them bragging on tape about doing it….

    There’s a major major housecleaning top to bottom of government workers leaches that needs to be done. I just hope Trump can get it done. Having the DOJ being used by avowed Socialist Activists to thwart the will of the people through their choice in an election is just criminal. Literally. Some large number of them need to be visibly sent to prison.

  61. p.g.sharrow says:

    As to the punishment of these traitors to the Republic. They took an oath to Defend the Constitution. If they work to undermine Constitutional Government then they must be disgraced. By law a disgraced government official loses position, retirement and benefits for life! and are bared from further government employment. Nearly all of these Deep Staters entered these jobs because their training is in the Liberal Arts fields that have little on no application in the real economy. Government, Media and Education are the fields that attract them and socialist benefits from government employment is their greatest desire. Prison is not a necessary punishment for most of them. Loss of benefits and A real Job will do!…pg

  62. Larry Ledwick says:

    Speaking of government over reach seems even some Obama appointed judges are saying “wait a minute”!

    Obama appointed judge in California tosses out ban on gun ads as being unconstitutional on its face.


  63. E.M.Smith says:

    A fascinating Q&A session by Ben Shapiro at Yale..


    I could live with that for some of them….


    At some point the linguistic gymnastics needed to support a hard Left position inside a Libertarian Constitution become so painful even left leaning judges hurt too much to “go there”…

  64. philjourdan says:

    @AC – that is not a lot. In the age of information where all your secrets are on facebook, that is merely window dressing. I am sure there is a lot out there, but she took pains to hide it. But the internet is forever. It is still out there. And if she makes it to DC, it will come out.

  65. E.M.Smith says:

    I found it astoundingly loud shouting “I’m only in this for effect” when Ford said she would not go to a congressional investigation until AFTER an FBI investigation was completed.

    I see two really big “SHOUTS!” in this:

    1) She does not want to be in front of congress prior to the election as she knows it will go badly.

    2) “They” know they’ve still got functional control of the FBI and investigations.

    My conclusions?

    1) Toss her ass on camera under oath in front of the committee by subpoena if necessary.

    2) The FBI needs a thorough and complete vetting and purge of “partisans”. Publish all their tweets, emails, texts, voice mails, etc. Shine a giant spot light on the rot.

  66. jim2 says:

    EM @ https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2018/09/14/w-o-o-d-14-september-2018/#comment-100669

    Yep, now I know it wasn’t me what was paranoid, it’s all the other people I know are naive.

  67. jim2 says:

    This CD has The Amateur Scientist articles from the late 20’s on. I got one. One from the 20’s is how to make alkali metals. Awesome!


  68. jim2 says:

    American Science & Surplus


  69. ossqss says:

    @EM, the FBI stated it was not a federal issue and they would not address it. It is a BS issue in the end and even the deep state can’t change it.

  70. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting thread on twitter, here in this rollup


  71. Another Ian says:


    Pine Gap is in central Australia. No secret here that it exists.

  72. Another Ian says:

    “Proof of Facebook’s algorithms at work to downgrade our posts.”


  73. Larry Ledwick says:

    Somebody has put up excerpts which supposedly come from the Kavanaugh accusers year books. If true extracts the girls partied hard until they puked or passed out it looks like so no big surprise she cannot remember any details of the party where she was supposedly assaulted.

    From the quotes they clearly had an all girls school “animal house” culture and bent and broke just about every rule that supposedly applied to their age group.


    I find these bits and pieces not at all surprising given the cultural norms of the rich kid in crowd in almost any big city in the country but especially in the power elite east coast cities.

  74. Jeff says:

    @Larry; Here’s another thread with more background on the school and the tony atmosphere/ bubble in which it exists. I think the excrement is going to meet the air propulsion mechanism soon…..

  75. Larry Ledwick says:

    And her supposedly corroborating witness is blowing her out of the water – totally denying her assertions.


  76. Larry Ledwick says:

    Some more Idiot of Things from Amazon / Alexa


    So tell me now that it can hear and understand whispers – that makes it an even more effective bugging device to listen in on house hold activity – Right?

    Let’s just pay Amazon money to install an “infinity transmitter” eavesdropping device in our home with no clue who has access to the audio captured. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

  77. philjourdan says:

    @AC – the things that Larry has been posting is what I was referring to. Not so much “WHO” Ford is, but what the story was about her school years. Now clearly the information that Larry is sharing does not say Ford did all of it, or even any of it. But there was an attempt to hide that information. Which I knew would come out eventually.

    The evidence cannot be used in a court of law (had it come to that – Statute of Limitations has long since rendered that moot), but it goes directly to the recollections of all parties – and explains why she had a 30 year blackout (it would not be the first time that a liberal got a Doctorate without any memory of it either).

  78. Another Ian says:


    Oh dear! More here

    “If Women Ran The World”


    And the link

  79. Larry Ledwick says:

    China continues its move toward total control of the South China Sea, interesting to contemplate that this area was the primary area of operations of the US Pacific fleet during Vietnam.


    They have clearly stated that they have a long term plan to replace the US as the dominant military power in that area of the world and eventually the entire world – they are thinking in 50+ year time scales so this is just one chess move in a much larger and longer game. There are also indications that Russia and China are forming a closer military alliance than they have had in years. If back stopped by China, Russia could do most anything they want in the old warsaw pact countries and Europe and the US would be powerless to stop them short of full nuclear war.

  80. E.M.Smith says:

    The Ford stuff was all over Infowars this morning. ( I’ve adopted the habit of leaving it running on the Roku when I’m done with the regular news outlets. Sometimes I have it on mute when the hype and throbbing music are too much. I’m just racking up their numbers since they were subjected to a ban… )

    So it was rather repetitive and breathlessly shoutingly hyped, but it was there.

    Seems she shows up as an 8th grader in one year book so was in 5 of them. One pose has her provocatively propped on an elbow with one leg provocatively opening her skirt… in a clear “come on” pose. The story given was that it was 5 years of heavy duty drink till you drop party time and boys boys boys (supposedly in the low hundreds).

    I’d not believe it but for the copies of the yearbooks that were saved and presented. One wonders how many folks from that school still have their year books and if anyone of them is a Republican… and if they took them out of the school library too… and old retired teachers homes… and… So some news agency with a big budget needs to announce a few $Thousands for a bonafide copy…

    Their plaintiff has some real issues and baggage…

    Oh, and seems she is a lawyer or some such for an Abortion Pill Company that’s deathly afraid of the Supremes moving to make abortions more restricted… So in addition to credibility issues, she’s got big conflict of interest problems too.

    One hopes the Senate Committee just says “Be here Monday at 10 AM to testify, or not. The vote is happening Wednesday.” and just lets it sit there.

    When you KNOW they are playing a run out the clock strategy, the thing you do is accelerate your rate of play.

  81. jim2 says:

    Apparently the more-than-likely lying Ford is trying to negotiate Thursday for her testimony. I hope like hell Grassley sticks to his guns.

  82. E.M.Smith says:

    Thursday so they can hype it and have the counter / response lost in the Friday end of week non-news “cycle”…

  83. Larry Ledwick says:

    They are trying to run out the clock so if he gets approved, he won’t join the court at the start of the next Supreme Court session

    Fall session starts on Oct 1 2018, so if they delay just a few days he will not be seated at the start of the session.

    Not sure if they have any specific case in mind to keep him off the court for, but these are possible cases that the Democrats might be concerned about a conservative judgement on:

    There may be others I missed which would be special interest to the Democrats.

    ( http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/lorenzo-v-securities-exchange-commission/ )

    Jam v. International Finance Corp.
    Docket No. Op. Below Argument Opinion Vote Author Term
    17-1011 D.C. Cir. Oct 31, 2018
    TBD TBD TBD OT 2018

    Issue: Whether the International Organizations Immunities Act—which affords international organizations the “same immunity” from suit that foreign governments have, 22 U.S.C. § 288a(b)—confers the same immunity on such organizations as foreign governments have under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act, 28 U.S.C. §§ 1602-11.

    A second case that might be of concern to the big government Democrats:

    Knick v. Township of Scott, Pennsylvania
    Docket No. Op. Below Argument Opinion Vote Author Term
    17-647 3d Cir. Oct 3, 2018
    TBD TBD TBD OT 2018

    Issues: (1) Whether the Supreme Court should reconsider the portion of Williamson County Regional Planning Commission v. Hamilton Bank that requires property owners to exhaust state court remedies to ripen federal takings claims; and (2) whether Williamson County’s ripeness doctrine bars review of takings claims that assert that a law causes an unconstitutional taking on its face, as the U.S. Courts of Appeals for the 3rd, 6th, 9th and 10th Circuits hold, or whether facial claims are exempt from Williamson County, as the U.S. Courts of Appeals for the 1st, 4th and 7th Circuits hold.

    Nielsen v. Preap
    Docket No. Op. Below Argument Opinion Vote Author Term
    16-1363 9th Cir. Oct 10, 2018
    TBD TBD TBD OT 2018

    Issue: Whether a criminal alien becomes exempt from mandatory detention under 8 U.S.C. § 1226(c) if, after the alien is released from criminal custody, the Department of Homeland Security does not take him into immigration custody immediately.

  84. jim2 says:

    Here is the Hatch Act summarized in one page. Interesting implications for the FBI/DOJ bad actors.


  85. H.R. says:

    @jim2: That Hatch Act poster is a great find.

    It looks like one of those posters that are required to be posted in the workplace, but winds up buried under all the other posters nobody reads that are required to be posted in the workplace.

    I’m pretty sure no one has been prosecuted over the Logan Act. It wouldn’t surprise me to find that no one has ever been prosecuted over the Hatch Act, although I suppose there are a few Letters of Reprimand in personnel files of some government employees guilty of egregious violations. Then again, maybe not even that.

    As far as I can make out, the previous administration was just one big violation of the Hatch Act during the last campaign, let alone all the other laws, rules, regulations, and policies that were ignored.

  86. E.M.Smith says:


    Only two people have ever been indicted on charges of violating the Act, one in 1802 and the other in 1852. Neither was convicted of violating the Act.

    Lots of interesting detail in this one:


    In 2006, the Utah Democratic Party challenged the candidacy of Ogden City Police Chief Jon Greiner for State Senate. The challenge was upheld by the U.S. Office of Special Counsel because the year prior the Ogden City Police Department received a federal grant to help pay for bulletproof vests. Jon Greiner appealed the decision, remained on the ballot, won the election and served one term (2006–2010) as Utah State Senator while the results of the appeal were unknown.[26]

    In January 2007, the United States Office of Special Counsel (OSC) announced the results of investigations into whether certain events during the election campaigns of 2004 and 2006 violated the Hatch Act.[27]

    It found no violation when Kennedy Space Center officials allowed Senator John Kerry’s presidential campaign to use a NASA facility for a 2004 campaign event, because no government employees worked at the facility in question. It found streaming the event to NASA employees and contractors violated the Hatch Act.
    It reviewed a 2006 speech by NASA Administrator Dr. Michael D. Griffin in which he appeared to endorse Representative Tom DeLay for re-election. It determined that he “should have exercised better judgment” and took no further action.
    In October 2017, the OSC issued a warning to United States Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley for a June 2017 tweet that Haley retweeted from President Donald Trump endorsing Republican Congressional candidate Ralph Norman.[39]

    In November 2017, former Office of Government Ethics head Walter Shaub filed a complaint against White House counselor Kellyanne Conway charging that her opposition to Roy Moore opponent Doug Jones during a segment on “Fox and Friends” violated the Hatch Act.[40] In March 2018, the OSC announced that Conway violated the Hatch act on that occasion and one other.[41]

    So looks like a lot of “Finger Waggle” notices but no real whacks. Also looks like Dems are big on getting folks poked over this and Repubs are not using the law to effect as much (at least based on a quick scan of the sample). So again differential enforcement issues.

    What I find intriguing is the background paragraph. Seems the Dems have been up to this kind of stuff for a long time:

    Widespread allegations that local Democratic Party politicians used employees of the Works Progress Administration (WPA) during the congressional elections of 1938 provided the immediate impetus for the passage of the Hatch Act. Criticism centered on swing states such as Kentucky, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. In Pennsylvania, Republicans and dissident Democrats publicized evidence that Democratic politicians were consulted on the appointment of WPA administrators and case workers and that they used WPA jobs to gain unfair political advantage. In 1938, a series of newspaper articles exposed WPA patronage, and political contributions in return for employment, prompting an investigation by the Senate Campaign Expenditures Committee, headed by Sen. Morris Sheppard, a Texas Democrat.

    Despite that investigation’s inconclusive findings, many in both parties determined to take action against the growing power of the WPA and its chief administrator, Harry Hopkins, an intimate of President Roosevelt. The Act was sponsored by Senator Carl Hatch, a Democrat from New Mexico. At the time, Roosevelt was struggling to purge the Democratic party of its more conservative members, who were increasingly aligned with the administration’s Republican opponents. The president considered vetoing the legislation or allowing it to become law without his signature, but instead signed it on the last day he could do so. His signing message welcomed the legislation as if he had called for it, and emphasized the protection his administration would provide for political expression on the part of public employees.

    I’d often wondered why the WPA evaporated. Now I know: Its utility as a political patronage tool ended. What good is handing out government non-work jobs if you can’t make political juice out of it? So when it’s just jobs and the money doesn’t buy the politicians anything, why keep it…

    Also note that the history of corrupt Democratic Party operations extends back at least to FDR. With him as one of the party’s Iconic Great Men that all are to laud and emulate, any surprise they keep doing those kinds of things? Any surprise patronage and government corruption are in their “go to” tool kit?

  87. E.M.Smith says:


    My bet would be

    Issue: Whether the International Organizations Immunities Act—which affords international organizations the “same immunity” from suit that foreign governments have, 22 U.S.C. § 288a(b)

    Is of interest to George Soros and his Open Society (insert socialism…) organizations.

    Also: Just why on God’s Earth would we want to have a law granting blanket immunity to NGOs just because they come from foreign lands? If you are active here or against us you ought to be exposed to our legal system. Don’t want that exposure? Don’t be active here or come here – stay home and leave us alone.

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