W.O.O.D. – 28 October 2018


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:
and remains open for threads running there
(at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

So use “Tips” for “Oooh, look at the interesting ponder thing!”
and “W.O.O.D” for “Did you see what just happened?! What did you think about it?”

What’s Going On?

8 days to the U.S. Mid-term Elections. we’ve got faux bombings, shootings in various places, politicians (mostly Democrats) demanding violence against their opposition, flat out lying in the Nightly News, propaganda of the worst sort flying all over, and the Well Connected in companies banning speech by those they do not like (universally conservative voices being silenced).

Sounds a lot more like a Marxist Socialist South American “republic” more than anything I remember as the United States. Let’s check just the basics:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Events being driven by outside agents (UN, Soros & his NGOs, and more) in order to disrupt the Union, assure justice is not done (Clintons anyone? Russia “probe”?) and Lord knows Antifa and fellow travelers are 100% the opposite of “domestic tranquility” as it is all about disruption all the time. Many of the Democrats are all about disruption too (Kavanaugh hearings for example…). We’re more or less neutral on the common defense thing. Promoting “general welfare” by swamping our welfare and social support systems with a flood of illegal immigrants is more about a Cloward and Piven breaking of the common welfare. Then the goal, to herd us into a socialist dictatorship is certainly opposite of liberty. Then there’s the attempts to overturn the Constitution by legal finaggling to invert the meaning of fairly clear words. That whole “depends on what ‘is’ is” problem.

No, present events and the desired direction of the Globalists and Democrats is 100% opposed to traditional American values, ideals, laws, and founding documents. All that remains is to see if 50.x% want that way, or to return to our founding principles.

The world will be focused on this, and on all the side-shows and October Surprises and the other film-flam efforts for the next week. Then we’ll hold our collective breath for 1/2 day as the votes are counted, the oxen gored, and the wailing and gnashing of teeth commences.

Stock Market

Headed down and not showing signs of just a “correction”. It’s broken support levels, failed to return to the simple moving averages, and has had key stocks announce good earnings yet still fall.

This, IMHO, is a direct result of too many interest rate rises too fast by The Fed. Yes, they must look out a year in advance and take actions for then, now; but really, there have been a lot of rate hikes in rapid succession without skipping a beat. They really ought to have put a pause in at some point. Wages are not yet rising significantly and there are issues with raising rates in a neutral economy. For one, home building took a dip in the last announcements. We’re already putting the brakes on the economy.


Italy has tossed a gauntlet on the ground via their budget that ignores EU rules. The EU has refused it. Next move TBD. But the Romans are Restless.

Several countries are saying “ENOUGH!” to the EU on immigrants who do not wish to assimilate or are unable to assimilate and contribute. This is a slow fire, but one that will continue to burn and grow. Even Merkel in Germany has had to grit her teeth and accept a less “immigration friendly” partner.

Then there’s that whole BREXIT thing festering along. 5 months to go. Globalists and EUrocrats pulling out all the stops to break it, stop it, reverse it, make it as miserable as possible, or even just delay it. A slow show but with occasional fireworks from time to time. One hopes the UK continues to make it out of the pen.

Over the next 1/2 year EU Watching will be a big deal.

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92 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 28 October 2018

  1. jim2 says:

    Mentioned on Meet the (De)Press(ed) today as a possible savior from the current political divide, this survey purports that “young” people can tell fact from opinion on-line better than older people. But they define “young” as 18-49!!?? Seems like a couple more categories would have served better. At any rate, the differences in most cases aren’t that great anyway.


  2. jim2 says:

    Leftist governments seem to love NGOs. NGOs are not elected and not accountable. From the article:

    The European Union Parliament passed a motion this week to demand member-states ban ‘neo-fascist’ parties and groups and have intelligence agencies fully co-operate with ‘anti-racism’ NGOs.


  3. E.M.Smith says:


    Just playing statistical games is all they are doing.

    Per NGOs: Well, the NGOs PUT the EU parliament in place so what else to expect?

    This is a counter attack on all the arc of citizen lead revolt against their cultural / population destructive “replacement” migration crap. It will just stimulate more folks to bail from the EU and accelerate the demise of the EU. The EU parliament is putting their neck in the noose…

  4. Larry Ledwick says:

    And the beat goes on – – – drums keep pounding a rhythm to my brain – – – La de da de dee
    Sonny and Cher

    (it is especially ironic to use the music of a raging liberal to celebrate progress in free speach)

    Gab.com 🍂
    ‏Verified account
    36 minutes ago
    New hosting provider secured. Working around the clock to see to it that http://Gab.com stays online. You can’t stop the power of The People in their fight for freedom and liberty against tyranny.


  5. E.M.Smith says:

    The basic problem is “Illusions of Control”. All that really exists is influence. Not control.

    Now that influence can be very strong. The Cop with a gun on you has a lot of influence over your behaviour, but really can not control it until the trigger is pulled (even then it often just starts a new set of problems that are out of their control).

    So the EU just knows it is in control. After all, it has all the treaties saying so and it makes the laws and it controls the organs of authority… right up until a brittle fracture of the social compact breaks it.

    Authoritarians and sociopaths (but I repeat myself…) are very lousy at knowing when strong influence breaks down in brittle fracture and they are suddenly in a shootout. Their arrogance prevents them from thinking maybe they are the problem; then their overbearing obnoxious reaction to bad news means they deny themselves the input that would warn them of the coming cliff. We saw that already with BREXIT. The British Aristocracy just knew the vote would be for “stay” so ‘let’ it happen. Now the EU is trying desperately to quash it thinking it must be a mistake… let’s have a ‘do over’ until the stupid deplorables ‘get it right’…

    Soros and his ilk have made a great edifice unto themselves. They have wormed their way into all sorts of “control” structures and did it while hiding behind NGOs (and keeping the real purpose of the NGOs hidden behind nice lies…). But now folks are seeing the results. Folks are not “willfully blind”, just distracted by making life work. Once shit floats to the top of the Aw Shit of the day, they do not un-see it. Bans on speech that says “Oh God, look at that floating turd!” does not make the turd go away.

    Now that all over the EU and the USA We The Deplorables have said “Look at that floating turd!” they (the aristocratic globalists) think that by just stopping our ability to talk that will “fix it”. But it can’t. The turd is still there and so are we and we can’t un-see it. They think it’s some rabble rousers who have us worked up. After all, that is how they work their control. So in a desperate move they make their rabble rousers the only ones who can speak and put them in direct league with the official government power structure. Of course we would never notice as we only respond to propaganda, we do not think (in their world view).

    What really happens is that we see the NGO as no longer the pretty lies about humanitarian motives and we not longer see the government as our paternalizing benefactor; We see the government as Petty Dictator Sociopath in league with an “outed” out of the shadows devious and subterfuge ridden shadow government of NGOs. The Turd is still there, and they are telling us it is ice cream and sunshine…

    Like the has-been actor or sports star who endorses a crap product, both of their reputations converge. The crap product gets a small temporary lift in reputation as the “former glory” reputation of our Star slowly tarnishes toward the crap. The EU has asked to borrow the NGOs reputation (and leverage) and mix that with the EU formal control structures. All to “control” the narrative and The People.

    Yet the turd floats…

    At Best the government can keep the pot to a small simmer. Much more often, IMHO, putting a lid on it (just as with a simmering pot) results in a hidden boil and pretty soon it overflows into a mess.

    There’s a reason people say “I just needed to vent”. Letting folks speak their frustrations mostly lets them feel like they have done something, or at least passed it on to someone else to dissipate. Don’t let people “vent”, it festers until it explodes. That is what the muzzling of Conservative Speech will do and that is what the EU enlisting NGOs to force feed the turd to the people will do.

    One Example:

    Muzzling folks on Twitter sent them to Gab. Shutting down Gab just intensifies the frustration and anger. Now they will move to P2P platforms (and eventually Dark Web like solutions). I’ve already laid out the steps to do that. I was happy to read Gab Humor section and save some fun memes. Now? Now I’m actively looking at Twister and related P2P sites. Working on how to set up a public P2P server with encrypted VPN links (so even the hosting site doesn’t know what it does) and have it automatically “re-candle” to new servers if one site goes down. (That is how Silk Road worked and avoided shutdown for decades). I’d rather just be reading Gab Humor… instead “they” have moved me to active opponent.

    That’s the problem with confounding “influence” with “control”. Control works by force. Influence works by example and persuasion. They have lost the example and failed to persuade. Worse, really, they have persuaded to do the opposite and oppose them.

    Right now I’m just “looking it over” on a low priority. The more they clamp, the faster the work and the higher the priority…

    IMHO, the EU has just signed their own Organizational Death Warrant. There will be more *EXITs and there will be more Gauntlets on the ground. I could easily see the same fracture that happened to the Roman Empire – dividing into Eastern Byzantine and Western (and remember it was the Western Empire that folded first). Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Baltics & Balkans, Visegrad and perhaps even over to Spain & Portugal splitting off. Leaving German & France to inspect their belly buttons.

  6. Larry Ledwick says:

    So is the death rattle of enterprise linux? IBM buys Red hat (they have been using redhat on mainframe since I was there in the early 2000’s) Nothing like owning your software vendor to ensure you get what you want and are top of the stack for support.


  7. Larry Ledwick says:

    Military now moving assets to the southern border to facilitate blocking the migrant invasion mob.


  8. E.M.Smith says:

    Sigh. I’ve been un-fond of Red Hat for a long while now. In the beginning, they were a good open disruptive agency. Then they went 1/2 Corporate (about the time it became Fedora). Then they went all “WE are center of the Linux Universe! You WILL use SystemD.” and went completely off the open source flexible communities rails.

    So now they are owned (pwned?) by IBM, eh? Good to know I no longer need to pay any attention to them what so ever.

    Enterprise Linux will live on, sold as packages of IBM Hardware with it to large Agencies and Companies. IBM hardware will get updates first, and it will work best on their gear. The “public” version will be late, have “issues”, and get patches “real soon now”.

    But, OK, I’d already abandoned all the SystemD lines anyway. Only if I was working and had to deal with would it be “in my grill”. As Red Hat made some fair number of patches, fixes and extensions, that will now slow – meaning someone else will need to step up and into that niche.

    This may be the bit that leads to a hard schism and splits the non-SystemD forks into a major alternative. Red Hat (and the origin of SystemD) will be in a bit of disarray (ALL take overs are like that) and we’ll see some folks bailing. (With luck, Pottering will get a pink ;-) The confusion and instability on that fork will cause some folks to slow plans to go there, others ON that fork to leave it, and folks not on that fork to celebrate and push harder.

    Choosing Devuan, for me, is looking like a much more positive act than it felt like at the time ;-) There’s something about those instincts that can’t be explained, but I’m glad it works ;-)

    @Per Military:

    Looks like Trump is trying to dodge the image of armed military facing (shooting at?) “migrants” (women and children as human shields in the front…) by having the Military just do logistics. So basically the INS / ICE / Border Patrol guys will grab and tag, then hand them back one row to some “guys in green”…

    With about 5k to 10k invaders “in their grill”, I think they need more guys than are presently assigned. Personally, as Coast Guard IS a police force by law, I’d have a load of “littoral boats” (even if “commandeered” Cajun Navy ;-0 ) on the Rio Grande River. Just to make a point. I’d also put some of the “thermal defense” and crowd control interesting kit down there just to test it. get a few ICE guys and cross train them on it so they are the ones actually turning it on… Maybe get some nice battle field sized teargas systems set up too…

  9. Another Ian says:

    “Does the U.S. (and green tech) have a looming technology-security minerals crisis?”


  10. Larry Ledwick says:

    So you are asking yourself – Gee I wonder where the Immigrant invasion mob is right now?


  11. Larry Ledwick says:

    So now they are going after the gab domain itself

  12. Steven Fraser says:

    On the migrant caravan…I had an idea while waking from a nap today, that the US State department picked some towns along the migrant route, and negotiated with the Mexican government to put in temporary but actual ‘Consulates’, including small tent cities (and marine contingents), and put in the necessary facilities to feed, shelter and process applications for green cards, under the proviso that the applications would be processed, and background checks performed via the Honduran government and the U.S. Consulate in that country, and then persons transported back home to wait out the process, which would include regular visits to the actual Consulate in their home country to keep their application application active.

    To dis-incent the plalanx, process the queue from the tail end, selecting candidates from the trailing end of the group. They would be the first to receive care, good meals, and their paperwork started early, and scheduling their admission date out in the future in advance of later registrants. If the phalanx continued, it would be progressively shortened.

    Though a bit expensive, completely humane, and at the end of the day, enters the individuals into what was skipped the first time…consular application to immigrate, all done away from the border, and provides a platform for sorting out the runaway children, incipient healthcare and sheltering considerations.

    Just a few randomly systematic thoughts…

  13. Larry Ledwick says:

    Per twitter from Gab

    Gab.com 🍂
    ‏Verified account
    17 seconds ago
    Just spoke to our broker about @godaddy and he recommended we transfer to a DNS outside of the United States. Welcome to 2018 where freedom of speech isn’t defended by US Corporations.

  14. Larry Ledwick says:

    Gab.com 🍂 Retweeted
    Dennis Williams
    2 minutes ago
    Replying to @getongab @joyent
    🤐 Gab is banned from #Joyent, it’s Hosting Provider

    🤐 Gabs domain is being kicked off #GoDaddy or seized

    🤐 #Stripe and #PayPal have removed Gab’s ability to accept payments

    🤐 #GooglePlay and #Apple App Store banned their mobile app

    This is a colluded #Antitrust violation.

  15. Larry Ledwick says:

    Gab.com 🍂
    ‏Verified account
    2 minutes ago
    Gab has to move all hosting, domain registrar, and payment processing services offshore in order to stay on the internet.

    Let that sink in.

  16. Larry Ledwick says:

    Gab fighting back telling the FBI and DOJ that the deplatforming actions may impact their ability to provide requested data.

    Gab.com 🍂
    ‏Verified account
    2 minutes ago
    Good luck @joyent, the FBI and DOJ have been notified.

  17. Larry Ledwick says:

  18. Larry Ledwick says:

    Clearly a full court press effort to silence Gab is going down.

    Gab.com 🍂

    Verified account

    5 minutes ago
    In the last 24 hours Gab has been banned from these internet infrastructure providers for supporting free speech and helping law enforcement bring justice to a terrorist:

    Are you paying attention yet @realDonaldTrump and @parscale?

    At what point does this become a RICO racketeering violation or anti-trust action as multiple platforms coordinate silencing the competition of twitter?

    The fact this is happening over a weekend (when it is most difficult to resolve such issues) and just prior to a very important mid term election tells you all you need to know about the agenda driving the action.

  19. Larry Ledwick says:

    Gab is expecting to get banned from twitter soon but they are throwing down the gauntlet to Jack.

    Gab.com 🍂
    ‏Verified account
    7 minutes ago
    Go ahead @jack, do it.

    Our account is 100% “newsworthy” under your TOS.

    Show the world that your TOS means nothing and your rules are enforced subjectively at will.

    Show the world you are a publisher and deserve to have Section 230 revoked.

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  21. Larry Ledwick says:

    If you go to gab.ai this morning you see only this banner message:

    Gab has spent the past 48 hours proudly working with the DOJ and FBI to bring justice to an alleged terrorist. Because of the data we provided, they now have plenty of evidence for their case. In the midst of this Gab has been no-platformed by essential internet infrastructure providers at every level. We are the most censored, smeared, and no-platformed startup in history, which means we are a threat to the media and to the Silicon Valley Oligarchy.

    Gab isn’t going anywhere.

    It doesn’t matter what you write. It doesn’t matter what the sophist talking heads say on TV. It doesn’t matter what verified nobodies say on Twitter. We have plenty of options, resources, and support. We will exercise every possible avenue to keep Gab online and defend free speech and individual liberty for all people.

    You have all just made Gab a nationally recognized brand as the home of free speech online at a time when Silicon Valley is stifling political speech they disagree with to interfere in a US election.

    The internet is not reality. TV is not reality. 80% of normal everyday people agree with Gab and support free expression and liberty. The online outrage mob and mainstream media spin machine are the minority opinion. People are waking up, so please keep pointing the finger at a social network instead of pointing the finger at the alleged shooter who holds sole responsibility for his actions.

    No-platform us all you want. Ban us all you want. Smear us all you want.

    You can’t stop an idea.

    As we transition to a new hosting provider Gab will be inaccessible for a period of time. We are working around the clock to get Gab.com back online. Thank you and remember to speak freely.

    Andrew Torba, CEO Gab.com

  22. E.M.Smith says:

    It will be interesting to see how much Streisand Effect there is with the ban on Gab…


    There is nothing like saying “You can’t read that!” to make a book popular. Though in honesty, I couldn’t get more than a few pages into The Satanic Verses… It was just not the kind of stuff I like… but I bought a copy “just because” I was told I could not…

  23. Larry Ledwick says:

    US military spur economic growth in Iceland.


  24. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh Man! They drank all the beer in Iceland! Quick, send a tanker to Germany ;-)

  25. Larry Ledwick says:

    This may be relevant to your Mesh VPN for P2P thread too, as a justification why normal internet has become too easily manipulated by malicious forces.


  26. E.M.Smith says:


    There is nothing so violent and aggressive as a control freak who realizes there is something outside their control…

    Per that Stripe link:

    In another message, Deplatform Hate wrote to Zieger, “Good call on gab… You dropping them was a big precondition of chatting. If this was goodwill I can meet you halfway and chat. Goodwill on my side is that there’s going to be two more big hits this October you should know about.”

    So 2 more to go? Only a few days left…

    Stripe, which is used as the foundation for most online payment processing, has repeatedly blacklisted conservatives and libertarians including Lauren Southern and Chuck Johnson, and in July, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a liberal non-profit organization, warned the public that online payment processors such as Stripe are becoming “de facto internet censors.”

    Looks to me like an opportunity to set up a Right Wing equivalent. One can either be an unbiased player, or one can invite an opposition player. There is NO choice of being an unopposed partisan player…

    Maybe I ought to look into what it takes to become a “payment processor”…

  27. Larry Ledwick says:

    The trick would be to see if there was a way to do the payment processing in such a manner that no one knows exactly who is processing the payments.

  28. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry L:

    Per BGP (border Gateway Protocol):

    The basic problem is that internet protocols were generally designed with the presumption that “authorized players” were moral and reliable. China is not. This requires an assumption that authorized players are immoral and hostile. A whole ‘nother thing…

    And folks wonder why I do NO ‘social networking’ and as close to zero financial and other stuff on the internet. This is not a time to assume that the internet backbone players are good folks.

    IMHO, I’d be much happier with a VPN based all-encrypted “must know” your connections world.

  29. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry l:

    Or just not give a flying flock about their “pressure”…

    I’d be happy to be CEO of such a payment processor and tell them to FOD.

    … off and die…

    Private company, no external handles.

  30. Larry Ledwick says:

    Here is AP’s view of the current Gab controversy.


  31. Larry Ledwick says:

    Ooops – I hate it when I sink my dry dock while working on my only aircraft carrier.


  32. E.M.Smith says:

    An interesting video that looks at the claim by The Left that conservatives are dumber / low IQ.

    While I don’t agree with all that they say, much of it has some merit. I’ve often said that high IQ mostly means you can more easily delude yourself (so I fight against that…searching for ground truths and not “a good story” – “There is always a story.” -E.M.Smith). This video also asserts that condition, though focusing it more on the upper-middle tier of intelligence.

  33. Another Ian says:

    “Margin Of Fraud”

    “I Bought Used Voting Machines on eBay for $100 Apiece.

    I reverse-engineered the machines to understand how they could be manipulated. After removing the internal hard drive,”

    “This year, I bought two more machines to see if security had improved. To my dismay, I discovered that the newer model machines—those that were used in the 2016 election—are running Windows CE and have USB ports, along with other components, that make them even easier to exploit than the older ones. Our voting machines, billed as “next generation,” and still in use today, are worse than they were before—dispersed, disorganized, and susceptible to manipulation.”

    More at http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2018/10/30/margin-of-fraud/

  34. Larry Ledwick says:

    On birth right citizenship

  35. E.M.Smith says:

    Interesting… Hope it is just a ‘glitch’ and resolves…

    On the ROKU, there are two ways to get InfoWars. The InfoWars channel (that requires some kind of authentication / login) and the Treasure Valley Community Television channel that has three top level choices, one of which is InfoWars Live.

    The other two are “Watch TVCTV Live” currently running an old cartoon set, and “Free Speech TV” that is currently running something with the title / logo of “RisingUP” in the lower right corner.

    When I click on InfoWars, it dumps me into the Free Speech channel where a Muslim woman is complaining at two other women about discrimination against “women of color” (when she looks rather white / middle eastern to me, go figure)

    I’m going to reboot it all and see if that “fixes it”. It’s not like I’m desperate to watch it, I mostly just use it as “increase their ratings” filler while doing things around the house. Oddly, the infowars.com web site wants to download when I click on a video to watch and the ‘watch live’ doesn’t do anything. I suspect some kind of buggery being done to them, but who knows.

    UPDATE: Hmmmm…. Post reboot of the Roku, there are now only 2 top level choices and the InfoWars choice is gone. Now I’m wondering if someone “got to them” or if it is just down temporarily as the supply upstream is broken… Looks like a real war on InfoWars in any case.

  36. E.M.Smith says:

    Looks like they added a box in the bottom line that historically just had recorded old shows that has InfoWars in it. Clicking on that gives a disclaimer / pleading that they are not endorsing it, just think diverse views ought to be heard – then seems to launch the live feed.

    Looks like they have been taking heat, but are no knuckling under… yet.

  37. ossqss says:

    Hummmmm, I just finished scanning news, and it appears we still have a large pack of bodies coming towards us with nothing stopping them. I thought Zombie shows were SYFY! BTW, I have started watching Lost in Space episodes in reverse order. Totally different show. Kinda like playing some songs backwards ;-)

  38. Larry Ledwick says:

    It also looks like those Zombies are taking the idea of being labeled an invasion seriously.


  39. E.M.Smith says:

    Maybe we can convince the Invading Mob to dress up for Halloween and have a real Zombie Invasion scene ;-)

    Watching the YSM (and especially ABC) they are Sooooo certain that the Army can’t legally do anything at the border. Clueless. Yes, the military can’t do regular law enforcement but they can do border protection (one of their main purposes) and they can also be used if The Prez declares and emergency (as other Presidents have done). Maybe there’s an article hiding in that…

  40. Larry Ledwick says:

    Or you could solve the whole problem with a flight of 2 A-10’s and a couple of gun runs or an AC-130.

  41. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, InfoWars is back to normal on the Roku… so whatever it was has resolved.

    I guess maybe both sides can call them up and complain ;-)

  42. E.M.Smith says:

    Just wondering….

    As The Left asserts it is horrible “cultural appropriation” to dress up in the clothes of other cultures, does than mean that all the Hispanic, Asian, and Black folks in America must give up their formal suits, Levis / jeans, T-shirts, etc. etc. that make up “Western Dress”? Oh, and baseball caps too -worn forward or in that stupid looking backwards way… And for the women, those lovely Evening Gowns. And that white wedding dress, that’s got to be “right out”…

    It will be a bit hard on the work site though, as we invented the Hard Hat and work gloves… and. come to think of it, the steel toe boot… No more nurses outfits in the hospital for them and the surgical greens will be an issue… I’m sure they can work up some kaftan or sarong or something…

    Further: Can I now stand on the street corner and shout “CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!!!” at each passer-by that does not conform?

    Just wondering what the rules are now…


  43. Another Ian says:

    Maybe the copyright has run out on Florence Nightngale nursing outfits?

    But I’d guess that hispanics could lay claim to white wedding dresses?

  44. jim2 says:

    I emailed ROKU asking them to support free speech and leave Inforwars alone, telling them also I don’t put much stock in it.

  45. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting item here – seems France had a major burst of Halloween night violence. Has anyone seen much in the major media about this?



    It is also interesting to note the change in behavior above for Devil’s night behavior as cultural forces shifted and society decided it needed to restrain the behavior.

    Like Mothers Against Drunk Driving made driving impaired not funny but unacceptable, social controls on behavior do shift public behavior. See discussion of that power to shift behavior in the other thread.

  46. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry L:

    That “gun facts” article has some nice stats in it. What is missing is the percentage of mass shootings at schools that involve a shooter on SSRIs. I don’t know the number either, but of those shootings I’ve done a “Dig Here!” on, it’s pushing 100%.

    Basically when you have a drug that makes you not care about negative consequences or feelings AND has a side effect of suicidal ideation; then give it to millions of high school kids many of whom are having feelings of social rejection: It is absolutely predictable that some percentage of them will decide it would be a reasonable thing to go out in a blaze of glory and take their antagonists with them and not care about the negative consequences.

    It is the prescribed psychoactive drugs that are the problem, far far more so than the guns.

  47. H.R. says:

    E.M. wrote: “Oh, and baseball caps too -worn forward or in that stupid looking backwards way…”

    Welders and bikers know why you wear a hat backwards. The rest have no clue. 😜

  48. cdquarles says:

    A catch, EM, about side effect listings. Be aware that the list does not exclude signs and symptoms of the conditions being treated. That’s the FDA rule. That’s especially complicated when dealing with SSRIs. So, I’m not going to single out for blame SSRIs or any other medication used in psychiatry, when the commitment rules are such that the people who need these can’t be, in a timely enough fashion, temporarily committed for theirs and other’s safety when they are demonstrably representing such a risk to a reasonable observer. Add in while remembering that these rules were abused horribly previously, even without the availability of medications. And yes, I do think these and the methamphetamine analogs are being overused.

    Remember, that the kinds of people who are so far away from optimum that they are being treated don’t care about anything much at all, let alone negative consequences; before they get treated. This I know, for I’ve been there, seen that, and had to deal with the consequences a few times, as have others in my family. There is a window in time when these people’s dysfunctional psyches get the energy to act on their dysfunctions before the medications subdue some of the dysfunctions. That’s when these people need to be inside a specialty hospital. Better to spend 60 days there than … not, far too often.

  49. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmm this is interesting — It looks to me like HRC is having some sort of seizure or mental lock up here.

  50. p.g.sharrow says:

    Maybe Hillary has been informed that she is being indited …pg

  51. E.M.Smith says:

    There’s a few different YouTubes out there, one by her old Secret Service detail and a couple by M.D.s basically doing video based diagnosis and saying she has advanced Parkinson’s.

    I can probably gather some together for an article.

    If fit’s all her symptoms, FWIW.

    IMHO, she is given “juice” (like meth or some such) to get through her “performances” on stage, but when it wears off she has worse episodes of dysfunction. Even on stage she can have “blank moments” and one of the SS Guards rushes in (as soon as she pauses and the eyes go wide-blank) with an auto-injector palmed in his right hand.

    There are others claiming it is epilepsy. I think they are wrong. Symptom sets don’t line up nearly as well.

  52. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yeah that is an older video that I had never seen before, just bringing it to the top of the pile. I have no doubt she has some major medical issues and is higher than a kite most of the time.

    Interestingly enough Obama is rumored to be buzzed on cocaine during recent speeches. I have seen an outtake on twitter but can’t find it right now, and he certainly is not mister glib and smooth but someone who looks like he is having a panic attack trying to get his thought train back.

  53. Larry Ledwick says:

    Speaking of which – in what sort of a drug trip induced haze, does this statement make any sense at all? Do these people really think that is a rational option or even possible?

    I’m sorry but I just don’t recall a Constitutional provision that would allow this to happen even in an Alice in Wonderland world. Institutional insanity of the left is a wonder to behold.


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  56. Larry Ledwick says:

    A little twitter entertainment video clip.

    Note to self, if you point a gun at someone, don’t turn your back on them.
    PS it is a bad sign if the guy takes off his glasses.
    PSS not a good idea to threaten a cowboy who has been around the block a few times.

    How not to rob a store

  57. Pouncer says:

    Following up from another thread — I object to allowing Marxist/Socialists to label the successful alternative, as “capitalist” or by any other label of their choosing. They don’t get to set the terms of the dispute.

    Our Host reports, properly, that laissez-faire is not particularly useful as an alternative label.

    I propose those of us skeptical of government intervention refer to ourselves as adherents of the observations and theories of Frédéric Bastiat, and so as advocates of the system of minimal government intervention in the economy we should be called “BastiARDs”.

    The free market system competing with socialism is therefore the Bastiard System.

  58. E.M.Smith says:

    Put an accent on the i and I think you’ve got something!

  59. philjourdan says:

    on’t let people “vent”, it festers until it explodes.

    Anders Brevick.

  60. E.M.Smith says:

    Well here’s some hope (and a lot of “well that’s why there is so much well funded kaos…” )

  61. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting bit here on the possibility that a red dwarf star zipped through our solar system about 70,000 years ago (Hmmm that matches up really closely to the 70k – 73k year genetic bottleneck theory)


    Is Scholz’s star, actually the much alluded to Nemisis?


  62. beththeserf says:

    Taking another look at that Globalist Utopia ‘New World Order’ via the Trilateralist
    Commission and its U.N. agenda.

  63. jim2 says:

    From the pen of Ann Coulter:

    How could anyone — even a not-very-bright person — imagine that granting citizenship to the children of illegal aliens is actually in our Constitution?

    The first question would be: Why would they do that? It’s like being accused of robbing a homeless person. WHY WOULD I?

    The Supreme Court has stated — repeatedly! — that the “main object” of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment “was to settle the question … as to the citizenship of free negroes,” making them “citizens of the United States and of the state in which they reside.”

    Democrats, the entire media and House Speaker Paul Ryan seem to have forgotten the Civil War. They believe that, immediately after a war that ended slavery, Americans rose up as one and demanded that the children of illegals be granted citizenship!

    You know what’s really bothering me? If someone comes into the country illegally and has a kid, that kid should be an American citizen!


    Give me a scenario — just one scenario — where the post-Civil War amendments would be intended to grant citizenship to the kids of Chinese ladies flying to birthing hospitals in California, or pregnant Latin Americans sneaking across the border in the back of flatbed trucks.


  64. Jon K says:

    This sounds like a bad idea all around… unless you were worried about global cooling :)

  65. E.M.Smith says:

    @Jon K:

    I get 404 not found when I try that link. Given the semi-random character string ahead of .html I suspect they may be trying to be cute and hide the actual URL to the article so each user gets a temp and evaporating one (to prevent copy? Who knows…)

    You might want to describe what it says instead (or copy / paste the important bits)

  66. cdquarles says:

    Re injections for Parkinson’s, well there are such, but you sure as heck shouldn’t give them amphetamine without extensive diagnostic work demonstrating safety and efficacy and without neurological monitoring. Then there is: https://patient.info/medicine/apomorphine-for-parkinsons-disease-apo-go. Note that this is given when the affected person does not have dyskinesia (movement disorders). For those, you take amantadine. I’m going to have to look deeper into amantadine, since I have a vague memory of that one having antiviral properties; but I won’t put too much stock in that.

    That I found “paradoxical” efficacy and “paradoxical” harm didn’t surprise me on a quick search using “amphetamines and parkinson’s disease”.

  67. cdquarles says:

    Oh, it isn’t not unusual for Parkinson’s disease patients to also have seizures. Sometimes that’s from the disease and sometimes from the meds. It is also not unusual for anyone who has had head trauma to have seizures afterwards, just from that, even without a subdural hematoma.

  68. Jon K says:

    It’s not that long, so I’ll just paste.

    China’s space industry is preparing to launch the world’s first artificial moon to help with urban illumination at night, a leading scientist said.

    China plans to put an artificial moon in orbit above Chengdu, capital of Sichuan province, from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in Sichuan by 2020. If the launch proves successful, three more such objects will be launched in 2022, Wu Chunfeng, head of Tian Fu New Area Science Society in Chengdu, told China Daily in an exclusive interview on Thursday.

    The artificial moon will have a reflective coating that can deflect sunlight back to Earth, similar to how the moon shines, he said.

    The man-made moon is essentially an illumination satellite designed to complement the moon at night, though it is predicted to be eight times brighter, the scientist added.

    This is due to the object’s planned orbit about 500 kilometers above Earth-much closer than the 380,000-km distance to the moon, Wu said.

    “But this is not enough to light up the entire night sky,” he said. “Its expected brightness, in the eyes of humans, is around one-fifth of normal streetlights.”

    The location and brightness of the light beam can be changed, and its coverage accuracy can fall within a few dozen meters, he said.

    The artificial moon might replace some streetlights in the urban area, thus conserving energy.

    Wu estimated Chengdu could save around 1.2 billion ($174 million) yuan in electricity annually if the artificial moon illuminated 50 sq km of the city.

    Meanwhile, the extra light can shine into disaster zones during blackouts, thus aiding relief and rescue efforts, he added.

    The mirrors can be adjusted for luminosity, and can be completely turned off when needed. However, less light from the satellite will reach the ground if the sky is overcast.

    “The first moon will be mostly experimental, but the three moons in 2022 will be the real deal with great civic and commercial potential,” Wu said.

    The three new man-made moons can take turns reflecting sunlight as they will not always be in the best position relative to the sun, and together they can illuminate an area of around 3,600 to 6,400 sq km on Earth for 24 hours if desired, he said.

    Wu said several notable universities and institutes, including Harbin Institute of Technology and China Aerospace Science and Industry Corp, have evaluated the man-made moon project and given it their approval for trial and demonstration.

    Despite the approval, Wu was quick to point out some criticism of the project, including fear of detrimental physiological consequences for people and animals, in which the absence of regular alternations between night and day would disrupt various metabolic patterns, including sleep.

    “We will only conduct our tests in an uninhabited desert, so our light beams will not interfere with any people or Earth-based space observation equipment,” he said. “When the satellite is in operation, people will see only a bright star above, and not a giant moon as imagined.”

    However, Wu stressed that much work still needs to be done, both in terms of scientific feasibility and business models, to tap into the full potential of China’s artificial moons.

    He said China, Russia, the United States, Japan and European countries are all looking to capitalize on harnessing energy from space, and reflecting mirrors have been in the discussion for some time.

    In 1999, Russia tried sending a 25-meter diameter space mirror, under the project named Banner, into space. The project aimed to redirect sunlight onto Russian cities, but the space mirror misfired at launch and the entire project was soon canceled due to budget issues, according to the New York Times.

  69. E.M.Smith says:

    Any mirror large enough to work will have significant tidal forces on it and aiming issues. One in LEO like the proposal more so.

    Then there’s the nefarious potential… The US Army likes to say “We own the night”. Well, what happens to a large force with night vision on when suddenly it’s 1/2 standard daylight? Since this supposedly can be aimed with meters precision, what happens when “our side” is lit up and “their side” is left dark?

    I suspect that’s part of where Trump’s Space Force comes in. Any future battle plans now need to include “Take out the other side’s satellites and artificial moons at first strike”…

    Then what happens when all that debris is flying around at 300 to 800 km altitude? Oh, complications… So the better approach would be a smart drone or on-orbit force that just disables or takes over the pointing / communicating mechanisms.

    Which then demands a counter force…


  70. E.M.Smith says:


    I think those two comments were meant for here?

  71. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting meme like item, not directly applicable to our current threads (Needs sort of a GEB tread)

  72. Larry Ledwick says:

    It took me a long time to really accept that there are those in high places who do not have any interest in perfecting the noble experiment of America and envision a world wide government ruled by (of course) them – those that they see as the intellectual elite, who care little for the trials and tribulations of the forgotten man but rather seek a system optimized for the building of wealth and power of a select few.

    Literally the actual creation of something right out of “The Hunger Games “

  73. Larry Ledwick says:

    Item on the current economy and jobs ( people forget that higher emplyment rate expands the revenue stream as more people are paying taxes and cuts social program spending to support those unemployed and drawing various benefits. Unfortunately the revenue growth has not fully compensated for spending growth, but the (expected by the Democrats) fall in revenue due to tax cuts obviously is not happening. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out over the next few years as the economy continues to boom and if President Trump can really drive through cost cutting measures he has mentioned (each department find a way to cut expense by 5%)

  74. E.M.Smith says:

    I think the most important thing out of it all is “Cut tax RATE got more tax REVENUE”. It confirms we are on the wrong side of the Laffer Curve and we can cut more tax RATES to generate more REVENUE.

  75. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and per David Rottenfellow:

    That’s the problem right there. Folks who think it was their superior intellect instead of their sociopathic tendencies and rampant greed, mixed with “positional power”.

    They always want a new Empire with Imperial Rule, and it never ends well (nor works well for any but the top few, really, even when it IS going ‘well’). Roman gladiators, soldiers, petty merchants and most women (not to mention the entire slave class – mostly white BTW) didn’t do so well at all.

  76. beththeserf says:

    ‘Never ends well’ don’t stop them tryin,’ sigh. If they’re so smart you’d think
    they’d know that … hubris followed by nemesis.

  77. Larry Ledwick says:

    The funny thing is that it never crosses their mind that there are folks out there in the working world driving trucks and working as plumbers that are as smart or smarter than they are. Going to an elite school does not make you smart, only educated / indoctrinated – the bell distribution of intelligence means that they are not as smart as they think they are, many of the intellectual “elite” are actually probably high normal IQ not on the +3 SD toe of the curve.

  78. Larry Ledwick says:

    Just because it is fun, the current location of Space-x star man payload

  79. Larry Ledwick says:

    Federal district courts tossed out two California statutes as unconstitutional.


  80. Larry Ledwick says:

    Meanwhile we see our intellectual superiors who wish to rule the world did not quite have all the kinks worked out and were not quite as “special” as they think.


  81. cdquarles says:

    To our host. Ouch, how did that happen? Those two posts were meant for the Hillary-Parkinson’s thread.

  82. Larry Ledwick says:

    Oh goody just like Brill cream hair goop – a little dab will do ya!


    FDA Approves New Opioid

    The FDA has approved a new opioid that critics say is 10 times more potent than fentanyl.

    Addressing the concerns, FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb said that the drug would be very limited, and most applications were going to be for the military, due to the ease of application of the drug. The opioid, named Dsuvia, is taken under the tongue, making it easier to use in a battle situation.

    Critics object to the new drug, saying that it could worsen the opioid epidemic around the country.

    Okay how long before the Chinese start manufacturing Dsuvia in car load lots?

  83. Larry Ledwick says:

    Gab just issued a release identifying the company that is accepting their hosting account.


  84. E.M.Smith says:


    I expect Dsuvia was being manufactured as soon as a drug patent application was made.

    That CIA rollup is horrible. Had they no internal Tiger Team testing their own methods? And just WHY would you use the same system almost globally? THE basic starting point is compartmentalization. Of sites. Of methods. Of everything.

    Heck I don’t even have “my stuff” all up at the same time or all used in the same way for the same things longer than a year or two. Constantly rotating shields, as it were. And I’m just an old retired guy doing nothing of much interest. The Stupid, it burns.

    Gab: Good to see they found a domain host, now they need to get the server work done. Since they said they had hired 2 and were drowning in good resumes, guess they don’t need me ;-)

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  86. Larry Ledwick says:

    Just poked through a few of their posts on twitter, about 8 hours ago they said they were in final data migration and testing phase, and hope to go live again tomorrow.

    Gab.com 🕊
    ‏Verified account
    8 hours ago
    Getting close. Posts still aren’t loading, so working on that issue now. Then a full quality test by our team to make sure everything works. Pray for the team, they are working very hard.

    Goal is go live tomorrow.

    I’d like to see a picture of the pizza boxes in their dumpster and common area at their office. I bet is is prodigious with a 24×7 thrash for about a week.

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