24 Hours To Decisions Known

About 24 hours from now, most of the voting will be done and many of the races called. Some few may drag on much longer.

This is a place to discuss them “as it happens”.

Here’s a Trump Rally for now:

Live Feed of Cape Girardeau, MO 11/5/18 (didn’t start until 10 PM ET)


I’ll change it to a recording once finished.

Here’s the RightSide coverage as recored. Rush takes the stage about 1hr:24 min, then Trump at about 1hr:49 min:

Here’s an alternative recording of the event:

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90 Responses to 24 Hours To Decisions Known

  1. p.g.sharrow says:

    It appears to me that this will be a “blow out” ! Once again the pollsters and pundits will have it wrong. The Socialist Blue Wave will be swamped by a Red Conservative Tsunami…pg

  2. Larry Ledwick says:

    Didn’t see this thread until I had posted in the WOOD thread so cross posting here.

    I have a feeling that the cross over vote will be surprising especially in the black community and the Hispanic community which is not fond of the border jumpers.

    Larry Ledwick says:
    6 November 2018 at 6:02 am
    Just finished watching the last Trump Rally at Cape Gerardo Mo.
    Crowd was wired and President is getting even better at his extemporaneous speaking. He took the time to thank several folks that have backed him from the start (Rush L, Hannity, Justice Jeanine, His daughter Ivanka, Sarah Sanders, Kelly Conway etc.)

    Watching tomorrows results come in will be very interesting. My gut feeling is a Red Tsunami is entirely possible.

  3. E.M.Smith says:

    @Larry L:

    I just popped it up near the end of the rally, so it might not have been here where you first looked.

    I’m “quietly hopeful” for the Red Tidal Wave to tsunami the Dems into some sorely needed introspection and “retiring” of the top tired level of their Machine. I’d like to have a real traditional Democrat to vote for. As I’ve said many times, someone like a JFK. But this anti-American globalist trouble making mob is just not cutting it. I don’t want a party of lies and manipulation and corruption running my country. That Hillary wasn’t tossed to the curb after her first loss (and double dumped for Uranium One) is just flat out stupid frosted with criminal corruption.

    Tomorrow we see how much of the rest of the country sees the same thing.


    Saw a Youtube interview of a table of folks who had regularly voted Democrat. They all said they liked what Trump had done and were sticking with him this round… A bit on the news tonight spent a good couple of minutes talking about the voter enthusiasm and how good a job the Democrats had done with their get out the vote and on and on; then, at the very end, said “and the Republican turnout has matched it.”… 1/2 of a sentence… that killed the spin on the rest of the story.

    I hope enough folks have realized it’s been a Soros lead globalist takeover of the Democrat Machine and with the purpose of eliminating American Exceptionalism and getting the USA taken down to better control it. That it makes them pissed. And that the Red Tsunami scrubs their party clean of it.

    I’d also like it if Soros & his NGOs were found to be election meddling, giving “in kind” campaign donations that are illegal (the FANG group too – Facebook Apple… Google & toss in Twitter too) and a nice little arrest warrant for Hillary & Gang of Accomplices would be nice frosting. They are all collectively up to their eyeballs in crime so any 1/2 competent DOJ ought to be able to do it.

    But we’ll see soon enough.

    Supposedly RightSide is starting live election coverage tomorrow at about 3 PM PT? and whenever it shows up (and I’m awake ;-) I’ll put that link here too.

  4. Graeme No.3 says:

    I hope the Republicans control the House of Reps. and leave the Dimocrats fuming helplessly. I couldn’t stand 2 more years of hysteria as they try to pull Trump down.

  5. Larry Ledwick says:

    The thing I found fascinating in the comments to the live stream by RSBN last night were the number of comments like ”

    “I am from (not in the USA) and support Trump all the way, we wish the USA luck (etc etc)”

    There are lots of folks in the EU, Australia and other western style democracies (Hungary, Poland etc) who have obviously settled on President Trump as a blue print for the politician they need in their own country and his successes are giving them hope that the run-away rush to globalist socialism can be stopped before it goes too far.

  6. cdquarles says:

    Remember, MAGA is not a slogan, it is an objective. Heading out to vote now.

  7. Power Grab says:

    I voted Saturday. It was the first time I ever voted “absentee”. I normally have too full a schedule on Tuesdays to fit in a possibly long-line voting experience, so when I heard Thursday that one could vote on Saturday from 9:00 to 2:00, I decided to take advantage of that.

    I went to the court house Saturday morning and found it locked up. A couple was also there trying to get in to vote. We walked around the building and failed to find an unlocked door.

    So I went off to see if one of my politically-active (and conservative) small-business-owner friends was open. No luck. Then I decided to browse the stores downtown. The first one I entered wasn’t busy. I was greeted by a clerk. I said I was just browsing. I also mentioned that I had tried to vote and was unable to get into the court house. The clerk offered me a cup of coffee, and as I was heading that way, another clerk approached and said she thought she heard that I had tried to go vote.

    Well, it turned out that there is a second building for doing business at the court house. (I don’t do much business at the court house, so I had never been in the second building.) That was where the voting was taking place. So I went there and was successful. It was busy enough that I had to look for a while to find a station to sit and mark my ballot, but I didn’t have to wait in line to sign in and receive a ballot.

    I had several forms of ID on me (I had checked them before I went, to make sure nothing had expired). The lady who needed to see ID laughed because I had everything at the ready. She said many people stand there and dump out there purse/bag to try to find their identification!

    I’m glad to have taken care of that task ahead of time.

    I wish there were a way to head off all the reminder emails, to let them know I’ve already voted, thank you, and please just leave me alone for now. ;-)

  8. E.M.Smith says:


    Heard on the news that {somewhere… Texas?} already had more “early voters” than the total vote in the prior mid-term election ;-)

    ID? Wow! I flashed my ID at the California polling station a few years back (they look up your name / address on a printed paper list and have you sign in) and was met with a PC Scowl and “We don’t need to see your I.D.”… Welcome to California where even your cat can vote and citizenship entirely optional – address? isn’t that monetary discrimination or something…. /sarc;

    @Graeme No.3:

    With any luck… So far the Democrats have refused to take their party back from the Socialist Globalist Dimocrats. It would be nice to see “Beatings will continue until sanity returns, and a focus on America first.”

    @Larry L:

    Saw a youtube on Soros from 2016 that talked about his email and some of his NGOs being hacked and thousands of docs in the wild – showing his manipulative process and agencies. I think more of the world is now aware of just how much of the crap and chaos in it traces directly back to him. Once you see the strings the puppets no longer look so realistic… Global plague, global awareness, global solution… QED.

    @Beththesurf & CDQuarles:

    MAGA indeed, to be followed by Keep American Great Again.

    I find it interesting that the fate of the country now rests in the hands of Black & Hispanic voters and the Democrats are still playing the Plantation Identity Politics game like crazy – and so far indications are that those demographics are smarter than that. They can see that Trump has fixed the economy, and they have a real shot at the American Dream. He asked “What have you got to lose?” and they answered “Not much…” and now are “Winning!” and know it. Welcome to liberty guys! Instead of arguing over what the rules are for your seat on the Democrat Bus, Trump is saying “Here’s your job, now go buy a car of your own” and the Dims are choking on it.

    Well, roughly T minus 12 1/2 hours now to polls closing in California. Ought to be pretty much a done deal by then. Hawaii is pretty much always a Democrat stronghold as is the whole Pacific Coast (Washington, Oregon, California) so very unlikely to be a lot of surprises out of them. Meaning by the time we close, other States ought to be pretty much known and the overall trend will certainly be known.

    There’s a tradition at Hockey Games of handing out small hand towels with the team logo on them. They get waved at the camera when the other team loses – offering them a ‘crying towel’. I wish I had a nice “crying towel” with a red logo on it to offer the Dems ;-) And I’m really hoping I need one to offer them!

  9. E.M.Smith says:

    Hmmm…. Tried to go to RSBN at: https://rsbnetwork.com/

    And got blocked by what I think is WordPress?

    Your access to this site has been limited

    Your access to this service has been temporarily limited. Please try again in a few minutes. (HTTP response code 503)

    Reason: Blocked by login security setting

    If you are a WordPress user with administrative privileges on this site please enter your email in the box below and click “Send”. You will then receive an email that helps you regain access.

    Click here to learn more: Documentation

    Generated by Wordfence at Tue, 6 Nov 2018 16:40:35 GMT.
    Your computer’s time: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 16:40:35 GMT.

    I’m not trying to log-in… I’m just visiting their site. I’ll try again from some other computer that isn’t logged in to WordPress (i.e. anon visitor), but this is just suspiciously strange… being just in time for their live election coverage.

  10. E.M.Smith says:

    Going to a lower level link works:


    I suspect something is mis-configured in the security settings or WordPress has rolled out a new security “feature” that isn’t quite right…

  11. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, it DID work… then I clicked on their “Home” button (that goes to the top level name) and it borked again, now it barfs on all the links. OK, so some credentially thing barfs on the top qualifier then issues a “time out” that blocks my machine “for a while”.

    I think it’s a WordPress thing. They have been pushing “two factor” authentication so my suspicion is that a lot of “spoofing” of sites has been going on perhaps with password crackers trying multiple high speed hits to brute force pw crack. Now when I as a regular WordPress user connect it is sensing my credentials and thinking I’m trying to log into that other site (as opposed to just saying “I am me”) and locking down the connection for a while.

    Sigh. They could have picked a better day to roll this out.

    So, OK, for the rest of today I’ll use the tablet as an anon user to watch RSBN and the Mac as my ‘workstation’ on WordPress. Different machines, different uses, different identities. Kind of fits my preferred paradigm anyway…

    I will also be interested if anyone else with a wordpress login has any ‘issues’ with RSBN or with my top level link. I’m pretty sure my security settings are OK but it is possible that WordPress rolled out a new default and I don’t know it… I hope it isn’t a generic failure of hyperventilating security…

  12. John F. Hultquist says:

    Washington State has 2 interesting items.
    1: the carbon tax, thing — again; and
    2: a gun control measure — our county sheriff and others across the State have said “WHAT?”
    They were not asked about this and say they can’t enforce it — So asked folks to vote NO!

    Oh, and in the House race:
    Kim Schrier, DEM, and Dino Rossi, REP, the 8th Congressional District of Washington.

    Rossi has already lost almost every election the State has to offer. No charisma.
    Schrier is more charismatic, and a pediatrician from Issaquah (20 miles east of Seattle).
    We have gotten over-size glossy mailers (12 x 18 inches, or so) two or three times a week for her. Most of these are paid for from the D-party, but not her.
    The District is geographically draped over the Cascades (west is left leaning; east is right leaning), so not an easy call.

  13. Larry Ledwick says:

    I can get to RSBN just fine here in Brave browser while I have a tab open on your wordpress blog,plus in other browsers. Either the block got dropped/fixed or it is somehow unique to your situation.

  14. E.M.Smith says:

    I’m logged in as administrator on my WordPress accounts on the Mac. It “has issues”. Connecting from the Chromebox (not logged in to WordPress) is working fine. I think it has to do with being logged into a WordPress account as admin… not just Joe Public.

    Likely a “new! improved!” security feature or setting that wasn’t tested with folks who are WordPress publishers but NOT admins on the site using the “feature”. I could easily see the folks doing: Test with regular user. Test with site admin. Works! Let’s go get pizza and beer!

    Not doing a test of “Log in as some OTHER WordPress site admin and then connect to the home directory level like Joe Public.” Or perhaps even thinking it was a “feature” that it was saying it would not let you connect as an “admin” even though it is only admin for some other site…

    Basically, I think they “lost the plot” on the “I am a WordPress Site operator logged in but not to THIS site.”

  15. E.M.Smith says:

    Well that’s interesting… Logged into my WordPress on the Chromebox and then tried RSBN and it still worked. Guess I’ll go back to the Mac and check it there again. Maybe someone noticed the FUBAR and fixed it pronto! ;-)

  16. E.M.Smith says:

    Back at the Mac, all working now.

    I’d say someone had a FUBAR on security feature or settings and fixed it after the phone started ringing a lot ;-0

  17. p.g.sharrow says:

    Hummmm I seem to have encountered that problem once or twice as I cruse while in administrator wordpress mode. had to log out to access that target blog, and I recall that it was a wordpress blog. I thought it was strange that I could not be on that blog with log on to my blog …pg

  18. H.R. says:

    @E.M. re WordPress

    I signed up and logged into WordPress w-a-a-a-a-y back when the only WordPress blog I visited was WUWT. I had only logged in a couple of times when I discovered you didn’t need to log in to comment. Works for me!

    Nowadays, I check into a half-dozen or so WordPress blogs and I still never log in. The only thing I can’t do is give ‘Likes’ which requires you to be logged in.

    So my report to you is… I see people reporting all sorts of problems with WordPress. The one thing in common with all of the complaints is that the people are logged in or trying to log in.

    I realize that you have to log in for the Admin functions, but otherwise there are far fewer problems if you avoid logging into WordPress.

  19. E.M.Smith says:


    I only log in to run the blog (that is something of a constant background task, checking for hung comments and deleting bits of SPAM) so generally just leave it always logged in. Not fond of the notion of logging in and out all the time (as I interleave my blog ops with browsing / commenting elsewhere). IF I ever need to “go there”, I’ll just use two devices with dedicated functions…

    But yeah, being Admin Login all sorts of stuff is just a bit worse…

  20. Larry Ledwick says:

    So far in Colorado voting is at record levels, with 2 million having voted by 3:00 pm MST.
    At this time 75,000 more women than men have voted. Traditionally most men would vote after they got off work so that may shift back as the night goes on.

    There are a lot of women who were incensed at how Brett Kavanaugh was treated so it is not a given that high turn out among women would favor the democrats.

    Our local poll closing time is 7:00 pm local or 9:00 pm eastern time.

    The meaningful numbers will start coming in about the time I head home from work at 10:00 pm I suspect.

  21. Larry Ledwick says:

    Early election results out of Kentucky show republican candidates strongly out scoring the Dem candidates in initial returns.


    Politico has election returns here:


  22. gallopingcamel says:

    I am with p.g. on this one.

    I have not attended any Trump rallies this year but they look much bigger and more enthusiastic than the ones I attended in 2016. Here is a video my friend Mike shot in September 2016. Apologies for having linked it before (Dear Donald, How About a Trumpscope):

    The Media say that large rallies don’t, mean a thing. Translation…..”We are jealous because nobody we support can get more than 2,000 to attend their rallies.”

    Red Wave! Red Tide has such negative associations.

  23. Larry Ledwick says:

    Colorado has already exceeded voting numbers for the 2014 election and we have 2+ hours left before everyone who wants to can vote.


  24. E.M.Smith says:

    Watching CBS (just got home..) they are desperately trying to put a happy face on it, but watching things go by, looks like Senate is a pick-up for Trump. Still need to pick up a bunch in the House to keep it though. There’s also what looks like more governors going Republican.

    I’m going to try finding someone showing relative gain / loss instead of just race by race who is winning…

  25. E.M.Smith says:

    Aaarrrrgggghhh! The “wordfence” crap is back again on Rightside…

  26. E.M.Smith says:

    RSBN live coverage via YouTube

    only 6K watching at the moment? I suspect the “security” feature is cutting down their viewers

  27. E.M.Smith says:

    Hmmm…. ABC News on the Roku just has the spinning circle thing… I think everyone is getting a big spike in online viewers checking things before they get home to the tube or instead of DVDs or whatever… NBC on the Roku had Senate going Republican but lower res image, like a load issue.

    Oh, at last ABC ap responded with a low res image that has dropouts…. after about 4 minutes…

  28. E.M.Smith says:

    Very strange. The “big 3” of NBC, CBS, ABC have crappy performance on the Roku while NewsMax and Infowars are working fine. Looks to me like the little guys are sized for full performance while the “big guys” cheaped their servers and can’t take a spike in demand.

    Infowars says Fox news has called the House to be Democrat controlled. How can they do that when California isn’t even closed yet and our seats matter?

  29. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well Fox news is now saying the Dems will regain control of the house – some commentators are cautioning that this is just a click bait move or perhaps voter suppression for the western parts of the country which have not closed voting yet.

  30. jim2 says:

    O’Rouke is still ahead of Cruz, but barely. Karl Rove just said West Texas hasn’t weighed in yet, so Cruz will carry the day, but DAMN, it is so close. I would hate to see Texas go the way of California.

  31. jim2 says:

    Interesting that Fox is saying Dims have the House. CNN is saying too close to call.


  32. jim2 says:

    One good thing is that even if Dims win the House, support for PeLoser is looking pretty shaky.

  33. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:

    1 minute ago
    And there goes Fox News with an incredibly premature call for the Dem’s to take control of the House. Dems would need to flip virtually EVERY SINGLE close race remaining to get the other 23 seats they need.


    Or this could be to setup the context for a future claim of election interference and to delegitimize the outcome. I am sure they will get tons of clicks in the mean time. and perhaps hope to soften support in some key districts with an early call but it does smell a bit off.

  34. E.M.Smith says:

    Fox, lately, seems to have turned left on a fair number of the things I’ve seen reported.
    Too bad.

    Rural areas tend conservative and votes get counted / reported later. I think this tilts ties toward republicans as the vote completes.

  35. Larry Ledwick says:

    Meanwhile we have several open and shut cases of illegal behavior at polling places.
    Chuck Woolery
    ‏Verified account
    8 hours ago
    VIDEO: Illegal Electioneering Caught on Camera in Pennsylvania, Voter Told Not to ‘Make a Fool of Themself’ When They Complained

    James Woods
    ‏Verified account
    Following Following @RealJamesWoods
    If these people block you at a polling place in Georgia, call state police or FBI. It is a federal felony to interfere with an American citizen’s right to vote by using threats or intimidation. #VoteBrianKemp @BrianKempGA

  36. E.M.Smith says:

    Watching NewsMax, has Bill O’Reilly doing analysis.

    “First off: No Blue Wave”. Then that the House is still a toss up and Dems could get it, but California matters.

    Republicans picking up more seats in the Senate.

    His voice is a bit gravely, like he’s been giving a lot of speeches…

    Kinda nice to see him again. A bit off his peak since he’s been off air for a while. Needs a bit more Adrenalin ;-)

  37. Larry Ledwick says:
  38. Larry Ledwick says:

    Meanwhile New York elects this complete nut bar socialist.


  39. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh Gawd! NY elected a crazy person!

    I knew they were a bit nutty. but that’s complete stoner land.

  40. Larry Ledwick says:

    Chris Stirewalt on why Fox is making the call on the house.

  41. E.M.Smith says:

    NBC calling Cruz the winner.

  42. jim2 says:

    RE Cortez. Obviously wormholes exist. There is one between SF/LA and NYC.

  43. E.M.Smith says:

    Newsmax saying present Senate count is 50 Repub 38 Dem.
    House score 137 Repub 136 Dems. California likely the determiner.

  44. E.M.Smith says:

    crawler on Newsmax:

    “Blue wave hits red wall”

  45. E.M.Smith says:

    And California polls close…

  46. Larry Ledwick says:

    What it looks like now:

    The Republicans will hold the Senate with enough cushion that they can confirm all the judges they want and change the makeup of the Federal Judiciary for 30+ years.
    They might lose the house but by a slim margin but this could actually be a net benefit because most of the R’s that lost were never trump establishment which have been purged from the system.

    The house will scream and shout and posture for 2 years while not doing much but obstructing the things they have control over like funding, setting up President Trump to target them in 2 years.

    Plus now the decks are cleared to dump all details about the back room political coup against Trump and beat on it for 2 years to either end in indictments of key Dems or exposing their corruption for all to see, with no worries about the upcoming election cycle.

    The Dems if they control the house can make a run at impeachment but if the R’s hold the senate it will be DOA in the upper chamber if ever presented, meanwhile creating a major medial event that can be used to expose all sorts of dirty tricks behind the scenes.

    It will be fun to see the final numbers the media are ignoring the seats the R have flipped, to make their gains in the House look bigger than they really are.

  47. E.M.Smith says:

    Don’t forget that House committee chairs can issue subpoenas. They will be papering Trump and the Executive branch in a blizzard of same.

    Yes, it is nice that Republicans have kept the Senate and the judges matter, but the House means the next 2 years will not get much else done while being a holy hell of pissedness and obstruction with subpoenas all over the place and much gnashing of teeth in “hearings”.

    I’d rather have seen a Republican House by just one seat so the committees would not become such a PITA. “Speaker Pelosi” means nausea for 2 years.

  48. p.g.sharrow says:

    I see Pelosi is already measuring the drapes for the Speaker’s Office…pg

  49. E.M.Smith says:

    The Senate changes do mean Trump can do things like swap the Attorney General without difficulty getting it confirmed.

  50. beththeserf says:

    Thank heavens the Senate is Republican.

  51. Larry Ledwick says:

    A little historical perspective on first midterm shifts in congressional control

    Tracybeanz Retweeted

    Jason Beale
    5 hours ago
    Since Hoover, the 1st midterm results (House/Sen):
    Hoover: (-52/-6)
    Roosevelt: (+9/+9)
    Truman (-54/-10)
    Eisenhower (-18/-2)
    Kennedy (-4/+4)
    Johnson (-47/-3)
    Nixon (-12/+2)
    Ford (-48/-4)
    Carter (-15/-2)
    Reagan (-26/-0)
    HW Bush (-8/-1)
    Clinton (-54/-9)
    Bush (+8/+1)
    Obama (-63/-6)

  52. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting observation here.

    ‏ @steph93065
    7 minutes ago
    Honestly, I’m not even sure we lost the majority in the house…I mean, did we have it? No “we” didn’t. The RINOs might as well have been Dems. Now that they are gone, we can replace them with real representatives in 2020.

  53. Larry Ledwick says:

    So it looks like the dead pimp in Nevada is going to win that election, and the the Republicans will then choose a replacement for him.

    Quite an entry on the old political resume “I lost the election to a dead pimp”

  54. Larry Ledwick says:

  55. Another Ian says:


    For comparison

    “I have been following the US election today.

    The Us voting system seems quite poorly supervised and a bit chaotic compared to the Australian system. It was reported that Voting Machines broke down and people wanting to vote had to wait for hours!

    Voting Machines? What are they. Can they be verified if a recount is called? What about paper Voting Forms filled out by Pencil?

    Also does the US have Voting rolls of verified enrolled voters who are allowed to vote ie Citizens? Having a driving licence does not qualify some one to vote in Australia.

    I have to give credit to the Australian Electoral Commission for the way that voting is administered in Australia. I have never waited more than 5 minutes to enter a polling place. The first thing they do is ask if I have voted in the election already and after I have confirmed that this is my first and only vote my name is found on the roll of eligible voters and crossed off.”


    You have to register to vote, and will likely be asked for ID when they check that you are on the electoral roll. And the electoral rolls are cross checked to make sure you haven’t voted elsewhere..

  56. Another Ian says:

    “You have to register to vote prior to the election” so no registering on the day.

  57. Larry Ledwick says:

    Every point you raised, has been raised repeatedly by the Republicans and vigorously resisted by the Democrats. Properly regulated voting would seriously crimp the ability of the Democratic big city machines to vote dead people and other wise steal votes.

    They intentionally resist fixing those problems, because it would push them out of power to only vote properly qualified voters. That is why you have voter lists where some of the names should be 116 years old, and challenging those names is resisted, or locations where the number of voters registered to vote exceed the voting age population of the district.

    Some voting systems do have paper backup, other electronic systems have no audit trail and can be easily hacked.

    Where I live (Colorado), we use paper ballots which are read into the system with scanners, so they can be re-scanned and audited or verified at later dates. Some electronic voting machines are manufactured by a Soros connected business. But the charge is dismissed because he does not “own” the company.

    Smartmatic is owned by Lord Mark Malloch-Brown. He is connected to Soros through the Open Society Foundation, an organization that gives grants to civil society organizations around the world. Malloch-Brown serves on the Open Society Global Board. Smartmatic says on its website, “George Soros does not have and has never had any ownership stake in Smartmatic.”

    Those machines are being phased out, but simple lack of direct ownership is not satisfactory to many people. The simple fact the companies owner is a fellow traveler to the open society movement is enough to put many people off and ring lots of alarm bells.

    Couple that with Democratic leaders openly encouraging and facilitating voting by non-citizens in locations all over the country, shows a pattern of behavior where vote stealing or other measures to manipulate the votes to favor the Democrats is taken as a given by a large number of people.

    There is a reason the Democratic party has been associated with jokes about “vote early vote often” for 50+ years. That sort of vote stealing, is common knowledge and a proven fact dating back to the early 1900’s in big cities and areas which have total control by the democratic party.

    The problem will not be fixed unless the Democratic party is completely crushed electorally to the point they have insignificant political power.

  58. jim2 says:

    In round numbers, O’Rourke spent 60 million to Cruz’s 30 million. Still, the race was close. I fear Texas is slowly turning blue. It’s sad, because that means the US is down the drain as a beacon of freedom.

  59. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes Texas is slowly being Californicated as folks move out of the California wasteland to better alternatives, just like when they did the same to in the 1970’s and 1980 as they started to Californicate Colorado.

  60. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    As Larry L. pointed out, voting here is chaotic by design of the Democrats. I believe that is a more corrupting influence than first blush might indicate. Say you know you only got power via a fraud: Are you then going to feel like fraud is OK, or fraud is criminal and ought to be punished? These attitudes percolate and shape a character even if not pondered…

    The end result is the Democratic party we have today. Willing to do anything to gain power and willing to do everything to keep it. Using it for personal gain and malicious destruction of opposition.

    We already see the Democrats of the House gleeful in their morning pressers about how much they can attack Trump and disrupt the operation of the country. That’s a fundamentally evil attitude and they don’t even see it. Not a peep about how they can help improve the country, sooth the divide, deal with global problems. It’s all “Me Me ME!!! and Look What Trouble I can cause!”

    They used that tactic in the Senate against Kavanaugh and got a slap down. The House was not involved so got a pass and “about normal” change (largely due to who retired IMHO, plus buckets of outside money). So now the House wants to do the same game. OK…

    I really wonder just how well that is going to sit with We The People…

    As of now, if things continue to go well, Trump claims victory and is re-elected. IF they turn sour, he gets to point at the House and say “It would have been so much better with a Republican House, maybe in 2020 we can get back to good times.” He now has a clear scapegoat. The Democrats are going to help him with this by having the House be one big Complaining Circus.

    Oh Well…

    I think Trump can weather the Democrat House Shit Fest. We’ll see.

  61. E.M.Smith says:


    I think it is more than just Californios moving in. There is indigenous change too. Apple moved some folks to Austin when they set up some operations there, but a lot more came out of the local University system. Colorado got some folks from California (often big name “stars” buying “ranches” to be near the cool skiing) but also became more urban with the growth of large cities like Denver.

    The more fundamental factor, IMO, is just that urbanization. Cities have grown massively, the rural areas are at best static, and often shrinking (as family farms turn to agribusiness and mechanized). Then the influx of illegals (and to some extent legal immigration) has added about 50 Million folks to whom the USA is an alien concept and with no anchor in our fundamental principles. (Look at the Democrats crowing over the “diverse” House with 2 Muslim Women – do you really think a woman who grew up in Somalia understands the USA and our culture?…)

    So yes, the Democrats have worked long and hard to “Fundamentally Change” the USA and have almost managed to destroy it in the process. They are on the cusp. But it was as much change of the education system and demographics from outside the country as it was some Californians escaping “The Land Of Fruits & Nuts”… When I move to Florida, I’ll continue to vote Republican. As just one example. (New Yorkers moving to Miami and Palm Beach not so much…)

    For Oregon, where I first heard the phrase “Don’t Californicate Oregon”, there’s a stronger case. It happened prior to the influx of aliens being so large and prior to the colleges and universities becoming indoctrination centers. Much of it was driven by the “Hippy Movement” and the whole “back to the land” (to grow M.J….) with a much larger swamping population from California. But even there, Portland turned from a sea port industrial oriented workforce to a more urban high tech and “cool industry” focus. That Urban effect. It wasn’t just Hippies in Eugene hills growing dope…

    The reason I emphasize this is simple: To reverse it you simply must look beyond the sound bite. I don’t know how, but somehow the education system must be recovered to some kind of balance, and similarly, the demographic swamping with alien cultural anchors must be blunted. If that does not happen, in about 15 years the USA will collapse. It will be that classical “voting for themselves the largess of the public purse” but in the context of $50 Trillion of established debt that can’t be paid and $200 Trillion of unfunded obligations. There simply will not be the ability to function and business will go out of business – then you have Venezuela all over again.

    When that happens, from where will the impulse to recovery come? Eh?
    And answer came there none…

  62. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes Californication is a multilayered process.On the outside the Celebrities were the visible face of it but the real damage was done but well off middle class Californians (first wave fleeing California) who sold ridiculously over priced homes in California then moved to Colorado and bought up all the affordable property and houses in sight. This literally pushed Colorado native home owners out of the market as you could not sell your old home and have enough equity to compete with someone who could plop down full purchase price in cash plus buy a new car, or boat with the proceeds of their California home sale.

    My parents brought a brand new home in 1955 for $13,250, it was a 1200 square foot full unfinished basement house on a 1/4 acre corner lot. I sold that house for $24,500 in 1973, with improvments it would sell today for from $375000 – $400000.

    The simple inflation adjusted original purchase price in 2018 would be $124,800
    The simple inflation adjusted original purchase price in 1973 would have been $22,000 almost exactly what I sold it for if you account for the improvements made at that time. Since the mid 1970’s house prices in Colorado have grown at about 3x the inflation rate. Unfortunately the housing crash in 2008 only briefly changed that trend. It is now almost impossible to buy a new home costing less that $380000, when a small starter home should cost about $150000 or so based on materials costs.

    That huge imbalance of purchasing power of people selling enormously over priced homes destroyed our housing market. They came in and in just a decade gobbled up all the best land and home locations creating California clone communities all up and down the front range.
    The new wave is a flood of urbanites who actually want to live in dense down town urban housing, creating skyscraper apartment and condo complexes in down town denver and pushing rent prices through the roof. Average rent prices are now almost 2x what people could buy a home for on a 30 year fixed mortgage just a few years ago. This is locking lots of people into rentals they would love to get out of because they can’t save enough money to break into the housing market unless they full save every dime work two jobs for 5-8 years to build a down payment. Meanwhile the tech giants are moving folks out here which are making high enough salaries that with moving benefits they can continue the push on house prices.

    They are building some little cracker box homes just down the street from me which are absolutely awful designs. 3 stories on a postage stamp sized lot built at minimum separation distance apart so in a high wind a house fire in one will take a whole city block before they can control it, and they are only selling in $415- $435,000 range.

    These things just totally suck in house design all the down sides of apartment construction, lots of floor space lost to stairways, awful for anyone who does not handle stairs well, no yard at all but all the down sides of home ownership with none of the benefits.

    I literally cannot believe they are able to sell these pieces of crap they are just terrible.

  63. Larry Ledwick says:

    The election yesterday is really a win for Trump if you pay attention to the details and look at the long view.

    House/Senate flips in first midterm election:

    Clinton -52/-8

    Obama -63/-6

    Trump – 34/+3

    This in the face of 38 Republican House members who retired opening up seats that otherwise would have been almost certain to remain in Republican hands. In the process they gained full control of the Senate (6 year seats) plus can confirm all the judges they want which will have a generation long impact on our country.

    Meanwhile the Democrats narrow hold on the house will let them throw temper tantrums and be irritating for 2 years and provide a perfect electoral counter point to President Trumps campaigning for re-election in 2020. Meanwhile the Dems will dance in the streets celebrating that they were only able to take half as many seats from the Republicans as the out party typically can during the midterm elections and call it a victory.

  64. Another Ian says:


    A bit more on the Australian electoral system

    “During the last 10 years, the Australian Electoral Commission has conducted six electoral events, including four elections, a Constitutional Convention and a referendum. There were 72 million votes cast, and there were72 cases of proven electoral fraud.[14]”


  65. E.M.Smith says:

    Trump has announced Jeff Sessions has tendered his resignation at the request of Trump. CBS News

  66. H.R. says:

    Re: the purpling of formerly red areas and states.

    I was driving the Mrs. on some errands and listening to Rush. He was going on about theDem flips in some long-time (R) districts and mentioned that it was because the Deep Blue state people are fed up with high taxes, say in NJ or CA or MA, and are moving to the Republican well-run, low or no tax states. He points out that they are importing their progressive attitudes to the conservative areas and turning them purple, and eventually full on Blue.

    That sparked a thought. There has been an intentional disconnect created between taxpayers and services. You want goodies? Soak the rich. How many times do year year about ‘Free’ services such as healthcare or school lunches? Always. How often do you hear about taxpayer-fuded programs? Never or very, very, rarely.

    Those liberal transplants have a complete disconnect between taxes and services. Their taxes became so unbearably high that they get upp and move to avoid paying them.

    Then, in the well-run areas they move to, they find that they don’t have this and that public service that they had back in the old state. So they get those niceties voted in. Each one of those bells and whistles cost money so taxes must be levied to pay for the items on the wish list. It’s “It’s only 5 mils on your property tax. It’s just a 1/4% increase in sales tax. Sure, it’s a 3% increase in state income tax, but we’ll be soaking the rich (and everybody making more than minimum wage is rich, doncha know).” Nickels and dimes until soon you’re talking painful money.”

    After several years, the new area has all the goodies the old area or state had, and those exact same transplants now bitch about the high taxes!

    Here’s the main point.

    Far too many Americans are totally ignorant of the fact that Government largess is not free and comes out of their pocket. There is a large cohort that has been educated and propagandized into believing that Government stuff is magically. “free,” and many of the brainwashed have advanced degrees and pay taxes.

    And too many now are not being raised with the self-discipline to pass on things that are nice services or public works, but will be of limited benefit, so not worth requiring everyone to pay for the upkeep of those Public Unicorns. Just because 140 people feel it is only right and just to erect a monument to One-legged Transgender Octopus Wrestlers, doesn’t mean they should force an entire taxing district to pay for it, even going through the courts to force the issue if it can’t win at the ballot box. It’s only “fair” after all, right? . But no one ever thwacked them on the skull when they were young and told them that not only was it wrong to force others to pay for your wish list, it’s stupid, and save up your own money if you really want that statue.

    Far, far too many Americans no longer understand the legitimate functions of Government. They have been nurtured to depend upon and expect a nanny state. What they haven’t been taught is that in the end, they will have to pay for it themselves.

    So you wind up with the liberal takeovers that E.M. and Larry L. have discussed, with economic details, above.
    My once, solidly Red township is now going through the incremental “creeping of the taxes” from the large influx of Dems that are putting nickel and dime issues on every ballot. When we moved here 18 years ago, we were a low tax district. We are now in the running to be in the Top 10 tax districts in the entire state. And yes, the transplants are bitching about the high taxes! as they come out of the voting booth, having voted yet again for another bell or whistle.

    By and large these are not stupid people. They are brainwashed ignorant people who have been trained like performing seals to follow the progressive path to perdition.


  67. E.M.Smith says:


    There is certainly some of that. I’ve noticed that there is essentially zero education in our school system about markets, money, what is a bond, what is a stock, frankly even what is a savings account. Essentially economic literacy has been driven out. I believe this is by Democrat design.

    But also relevant is that for about 1/2 the population, all that “free” stuff really IS free.

    The Republicans keep trying to make sure that all voters have some ‘skin in the game’ so care about tax rates; except so much of the tax system is now hidden from view that for a large chunk of people, they really just don’t see it. Most people in cities rent (and most people now live in cities). Do you see the property tax? You pay it. Do you see the corporate income tax and all the wage taxes paid by corporations? You pay it when you buy a product. How about even something like the 10% Sales Tax on a new car? Up to $4,000 or even $8,000.00? Nope. It’s a line on the contract most people don’t read and just gets folded into the monthly payment…

    So in many cases the folks paying the taxes don’t see them (especially for the ‘regressive’ taxes) while the folks getting “goodies” clearly see the goodies (money). Retirement payments and “entitlements” are a huge part of the budgets. Those are “checks in hand” and effectively free money to the recipient. Ditto the government paid health care and EBT cards. So “free stuff”… from their POV.

    So when those folks see a ballot measure like “Bonds to build hospitals”, they vote yes; since they get “free” healthcare and want it in a better place. Besides, a bond is just “somebody else’s credit card” and who cares… While the 20% who actually pay most of the taxes get out voted.

    BTW, that’s an actual bond issue that passed in California this year. Along with one to build “free” houses for folks as long as they can claim some mental illness. ( I wonder if excessive drinking counts? It counts for Social Security disability… so want to sit around drunk all the time? Apply for your SSI and free house…)


    Authorized bonds to fund existing housing program for individuals with mental illness. Get full details on this proposition here.


    Authorized bonds funding construction at hospitals providing children’s health care. Get full details on this proposition here.

    I’m all for children getting health care, but ought not the funding come from the industry instead of the State Credit Card? Hmmm?

    Once, like it is in California, about 1/2 the people are on some kind of hand-out, the majority really are voting for “free stuff” (for them) and not paying the taxes they approve (for others to pay).

    (Prop 5 to let folks over 55 transfer their property tax exemption to better houses was defeated as was Prop 6 to roll back the latest gas tax hike. People living in S.F. riding buses want the roads fixed up – but don’t pay the road tax… )

    Part of (a big part of, really…) why I’ve had 90%+ of my wages earned in the last decade come from out of California while I was a legal resident of a non-income tax State, and why when we sell the house here that equity will roll into property is a different State with gentler tax issues. I’m not going to be paying for those free flops for drunks & druggies nor for the hospitals for other people’s kids…

    I’m pretty sure if I wanted to hit the market, here in California and now, I could land a “6 figure gig” (at the low end, but in the 6…). I also know I don’t want to put up with the crap involved. The 2 hour commute. The Mandatory Re-education Camps – I’m sorry “HR Training”… Then handing over at least 1/2 the paycheck in various ways to State & Federal Government. Instead, I’m applying for my Government Check this month (to start in a month or three whenever their rules allow) and then I’m going to be on the “Free Stuff!” side of the ledger too. Who will pay for it? Not my problem… Maybe some poor “migrant” from Honduras… they want jobs… /sarc;

  68. H.R. says:

    Your points about the 50% +1 voting themselves free stuff paid for by the minority of taxpayers are great, but I was ranting more along the lines of your economic illiteracy comment.

    It’s not only just the freeloaders voting themselves free stuff. It is also the economically illiterate taxpayers who are shafting themselves and then screaming bloody murder when they get the bill.

    They don’t wise up and work to reverse those tax burdens. They move to another low tax district and start the cycle all over again.

    That is large part of the reason for urban sprawl. People keep moving further out where land is cheaper and taxes are lower leaving a decaying core in their wake; dense infrastructure with few people left to fund it.

    Those are the ones moving to and ruining formerly sane, responsible districts and states And as you say, they are economically illiterate.

  69. jim2 says:

    I hope the silence on the matter doesn’t mean you missed Trump’s press conference today. The reporters took boorishness to a whole new level. If you didn’t see it, try to find it on the internet. He dressed down Acosta to the bone.

  70. philjourdan says:

    And then yanked his pass. About damn time!

  71. H.R. says:

    The WH press statement said they yanked his pass for his physical actions upon the the female intern who was trying to retrieve the mic from Acosta.

    I think President Trump allows Jim Acosta to be a jerk because Acosta makes Trump’s points about the YSM clearly visible to America in the person of Acosta.

    I am certain that if Acosta would have kept his jerkitude to verbal obnoxiousness, he would still have his press pass.

    Physically pushing and batting at that young woman was a step too far.

  72. Larry Ledwick says:

    The perfect wrap up to yesterday’s elections from twitter:

    Saul Montes-Bradley
    19 minutes ago

    The elections are over,
    The results are known.
    The will of the people
    has clearly been shown.

    Let’s all get together,
    Let bitterness pass!
    I’ll go hug my Elephant,
    And you…you kiss your Ass.

  73. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmm interesting item here, if true, that margin is well within what could be the result of illegal voting.

    @allidoisowen pointed out today on War Room Show that 10 Republican seats were lost by 5,000 or fewer votes yesterday.

  74. E.M.Smith says:


    I saw it. Replayed some bits of it ;-)

    The “silence” was more about my doing the actual filing for SS payments… then tequila was involved… (It is very hard to retain that fantasy that you are still an ‘attractive middle age’ when you are filing for Social Security and making sure you have the right Medicare selections… )

    Right now I’m enjoying watching the replays of him left arm blocking the young lady who was to collect the microphone vs him saying “I did not put a hand on”… and he is right. It was an Arm-Bar not a hand grab… a much more painful mode of attack.

    @Larry L:

    Priceless ;-0

    So we nee to just have recounts and validation of ALL voters who voted in those areas… Contest every single one. The Dems are going to be doing that anywhere they lost by a modest amount.

  75. H.R. says:

    E.M.: “Contest every single one.

    Yup. Might as well get it over with on both sides. We have a little over a month and a half until the new sessions begin, so let’s get some good counts and let the chips fall where they may.

    The trouble is, the GOPe* is fine with the outcome, so few if any of the narrow Republican losses will be contested.

    * e = establishment and they are the right wing of the Uniparty

  76. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well now things are going to get interesting!

    Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
    ‏Verified account
    4 minutes ago
    #Breaking Florida Governor Scott has ordered state police to seize all Broward and Palm Beach outstanding ballots after Roger Stone called on him publicly to do so

  77. p.g.sharrow says:

    Its not who votes that counts, It is who counts the votes. Democrats are known to manufacture Ballots long after the election in precincts that they control….pg

  78. gallopingcamel says:

    While it is not good to lose the House there is a silver lining. Most of the ~40 GOP retirements were RINOs or Never Trumpers.

    The candidates who embraced the Trump agenda mostly won while Mia Love and her ilk mostly lost. The problem with the GOP has long been the fact that some Republicans prefer to fight their own party rather than the Democrats. There may be fewer GOP House members but some of the back stabbers are gone.

  79. Larry Ledwick says:

  80. E.M.Smith says:

    At Last!

    Someone is doing something, anything to enforce the law and keep the vote clean.

    IMHO, we need a full Audit of the vote in anyplace suspicious. I’m talking all the way down to looking up each person checked off the list as having voted and asking them “Did you vote HERE at this TIME?”

    I am so fed up with the FRAUD in our voting process I could just spit. Frankly, it is part of why I can’t vote for Democrats much anymore. I just can’t endorse that much lying and deception.

  81. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Big League Politics Retweeted

    Patrick Howley
    43 seconds ago
    CONFIRMED: Prosecutors are investigating evidence that hundreds of felons ILLEGALLY VOTED in BROWARD COUNTY in 2016

    Marco Rubio
    ‏Verified account
    14 minutes ago
    A new & troubling allegation has emerged. A statement under penalty of perjury that #PalmBeachCounty filled out new ballots to replace damaged ones without allowing campaign representative to witness the process of creating the new ballot as required by #Florida law

    Rudy Giuliani
    ‏Verified account
    6 hours ago
    How is it possible that the person in charge of Broward County elections was found by a court to have acted illegally during 2016 elections for destroying ballots and was not fired. Maybe they count on the machine,along with Palm Beach,to steal elections.Years of irregularities.

  82. Larry Ledwick says:

    Stewart Moore
    ‏Verified account
    Follow @Stewartmoore
    BREAKING: Judge finds Broward County violated constitution by not following open records laws, orders election officials to comply by 7pm. Ruling does not address allegations of fraud. This ruling will reveal how many ballots cast and how many still need to be counted

  83. E.M.Smith says:

    Hopefully the Florida Voter Fraud will bust this open and the same repair done in the other 49.

  84. Larry Ledwick says:

    Land of the Free
    33 minutes ago
    ⚠️@mattgaetz onsite at the Broward election office: contempt of court motions to be filed shortly against Brenda Snipes; mysterious boxes being loaded/unloaded into trucks; Democrat lawyers coming in and out of election office -GOP lawyers stopped by armed guards

    Ryan Saavedra
    ‏Verified account
    Following @RealSaavedra
    A judge ruled today that Broward County Elections Supervisor Brenda Snipes broke the law and ordered her give Rick Scott’s campaign an accounting of total ballots cast and a breakdown of votes by category by 7 p.m. today.

    She’s refusing to do it.

    Rep. Matt Gaetz
    ‏Verified account
    6 hours ago
    What concerns Republicans is not the law that would require an automatic machine recount in the governor race or a hand recount in the senate race… it’s the fact that in Broward county we’ve now had over 80,000 ballots literally spoken into existence….

  85. gallopingcamel says:

    Here we go again. This happens every time in Florida.

    The Dems will lose as they did with the Al Gore recount but then they will claim that the supreme court stole the election.

    These people have no shame, no ethics. They will lie, cheat and steal. They will keep doing it until their criminal behavior lands them in jail. Brenda Snipes needs to go to jail for contempt of court. After that she needs to face prosecution for fraud.

  86. E.M.Smith says:



    That is the key thing that is missing: Enforcing the LAW and application of penalties. When you don’t apply the same degree of “enforcement” to your buddies / cast / overlords as to everyone else, you get corrupt government run by arrogant asses. We very much need someone in the DOJ / FBI / even Local LEOs to start busting some chops for crimes and tossing ’em in jail (with disbarment as appropriate…)

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