W.O.O.D. 3 December 2018


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:
and remains open for threads running there
(at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

So use “Tips” for “Oooh, look at the interesting ponder thing!”
and “W.O.O.D” for “Did you see what just happened?! What did you think about it?”

What’s Going On?

The G20 happened and nobody much noticed.

France is on fire and having the Weekly Riot all due to “Climate Change Policies” raising gasoline and Diesel prices and taxes. The disturbance has spread to Belgium, Italy & the Netherlands. Europe has noticed that the proposed “cure” for the fantasy ill of Climate Change is personal poverty and government domination on an expense account.

Brexit drags on. In Parliament, In the House Of Commons, Theresa May was facing a lot of hostile questions. I think the vote will be against her broken ‘plan’ and her government may well fall.

We’ve got maybe 3 more weeks of a Republican House, then all Hell breaks loose as we have Dimocrats On Parade doing anything they can to cause harm and not much to make the country better.

Christmas is just 3 weeks away. Oh Joy! I’m getting some new computer boards for Christmas – I know because you bought them for me ;-) I shook out the tip jar at Ameridroid and my “toys are in the mail”! Expect several more computer postings over the next few months.

Hungary has tossed out Soros and his University. Now if the USA can just get with the program and toss him here, too. (Hey Trump! Just recognize that Russian International Arrest Warrant!)

There’s a rumor of a 5 December “round up” of anti-American Clinton Conspirators. I’m not holding my breath. I’d love to see 50,000+ indictments unsealed and the perps sent to Gitmo, but I’m of the opinion it is more likely spin than real. We’ll see, in time.

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98 Responses to W.O.O.D. 3 December 2018

  1. Another Ian says:

    “Rampant solar, wind growth: Australia increases unreliable energy by 50% in 2018. Wow.

    The Crash Test Dummy accelerates. Australia is steaming ahead in the forced transition to unreliable energy”


    “One might even refer to an “energy epidemic” and all man made and spread

    Electrical syphilis even?”

  2. Another Ian says:

    “Excellent Dan Bongino Podcast Today…… But….”


    Check the extra

  3. Larry Ledwick says:

    I like Dan Bongino but I absolutely detest sitting through a 1 hour pod cast to get info could read in 5 – 10 minutes. You have a cliff’s notes summary?

  4. Another Ian says:


    That is in CTH towards the end

  5. Another Ian says:

    Maybe AI isn’t in prime time for flying planes as yet?

    “And this one falls under the “I, for one, welcome our new, self-PILOTING overlords” category:
    The pilots fought the planes automatic pilot settings for six minutes and it still crashed itself. Methinks that Boeing will be paying out huge compensation money for this one.”


  6. Simon Derricutt says:

    More antidemocratic machinations; https://www.france24.com/en/20181204-britain-can-unilaterally-revoke-article-50-says-top-eu-court-lawyer . It seems that the groundwork is being laid to try to snatch victory for the globalists. This seems to me to have a high chance of being the route taken, and the UK will cancel Article 50 and remain in the EU. Nobody will run a referendum to ask the UK whether it still wants to leave – this is being put as anti-democratic for some reason. I’ve been watching the various comments on the BBC Brexit-related articles and it seems that more people would now vote leave than in the original referendum, since they’ve now seen the intentions of the EU to cripple the UK if they can.

    I can see the advantages of a United States of Europe, providing it was based on much the same lines as the USA. A republic with an electoral college basis for votes, and the same checks and balances that the USA put into its Constitution (even though they have been weakened over time). As it is, the EU is a dictatorship heading more towards a USSR model (so USSE and not USE).

    Mrs May seems to have played the game badly and thrown her high cards away. All her red lines seem to have been backed up over. She got the point that UK citizens were upset about the high rate of immigration, but missed the point that it wasn’t the French, Dutch, Spanish, German etc. immigrants they were worried about in general, but instead those from Eastern Europe who find the minimum wages so much higher than they can earn at home, and will endure much worse conditions to get that minimum wage, that in order to compete for the available jobs the locals need to similarly drop their expectations (and of course there’s a housing shortage, too). That’s also bad for the countries those people come from, of course, since there’s a brain-drain of the people who have the gumption to do better for themselves. I doubt if there are many plumbers left in Poland….

    Meantime, looks like the UK’s National Health Service has been relying on attracting doctors and nurses from *elsewhere* rather than training up locals. As such, and with those nice-sounding limits on immigration being actually imposed, the NHS will be in crisis again with not enough people and too much demand on those people.

    It looks like Mrs May is going to win the 2018 pratties this year ( https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2018/11/21/its-time-to-run-the-prat-of-the-year-2018-contest/ ) since she’s romping ahead of the other nominated prats. A well-deserved win, since there have been so many obvious own-goals during the last few years, starting with trying to win an election with a manifesto that pissed off her main base of retired folks by telling them she was going to take all their savings and property for end-of-life care. Not exactly clever politics, even though it’s obvious someone will have to pay. Trouble is, I can’t see anyone else that would do a better job of governing the UK amongst the current crop of politicians either, no matter what party. Maybe Jacob Rees-Mogg on the Conservative side, even though I would likely disagree with him on some basics – he’s at least intelligent and puts the thought in even though he’s a veritable upper-class English Eccentric. On the Labour side, Hilary Benn seems about the best choice, though again I may disagree on some things. Neither wants to be a leader, though. I suspect that if either of them decided to go for the leadership, there might be a surprising amount of support and such a change of leadership might put that party in a very strong position if there was an election.

    I’m watching the politics in France as well, and it seems Macron is bowing to the people and chopping the Carbon taxes for now. Macron is bright, but unfortunately swallows the “Carbon is Bad” fake news. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions….

  7. Larry Ledwick says:

    On the internet front – it looks like Microsoft is about to toss out their new edge browser they introduced in Windows 10 because yet again they could not get it right.


  8. H.R. says:

    E.M. writes in the W.O.O.D. intro: “The G20 happened and nobody much noticed.”

    There were a few things that happened there that made my stocks sit up and take notice. I’ve had two days of big gains due to a couple of the announcements made at the G20. The biggie is that President Xi seems to have bent a little. I wouldn’t say he has caved, but he is stepping back a bit from the tit-for-tat tariffs because he’s run out of tits and the U.S. has plenty of tats left.

  9. E.M.Smith says:


    Yeah, some short covering happened. That had as much to do with the Head of The Fed announcing that maybe they were fine with not raising interest rates again (now that the election was over and tanking stocks would hurt their masters more than it hurt Trump’s election results…)


    Microsoft makes a browser?



    That’s THE big question:

    Will the UK Government recognize the Will Of The People to be a free an independent nation? Or not?

    If yes, then a Hard Brexit will be fine and in 6 months nobody will remember what all the panic was about as New Zealand lamb is on the table with Australian wine and the UK is shipping loads of packaged tea, cookies, cars, and other goods to: Canada, Australia, New Zealand, USA, India, ….

    If no: Then it’s back to being overrun by folks speaking strange languages working for 1/2 a living wage and wondering why everything from France & Germany costs so much…

    I hope they choose wisely.

    Were it up to me, I’d have said “Forget the 2 year hanging about; we’re out on WTO rules NOW. Now lets start talking GLOBAL trade agreements.” Had that been done, the UK would have started their return to growth 18 months ago.

    Sitting on the fence is the WORST place to be.
    Freedom and independence is always better than satrapy.
    Escape autocrats and sociopaths at ALL times and never look back.
    Just walk away. (or RUN!)

  10. Simon Derricutt says:

    EM – I was really proud when the results of that referendum were announced. Despite all the predictions of ruin if they voted to leave, and thinly-veiled threats from Obama that trade with the USA would be curtailed for an indeterminate time (end of the queue for a trade deal) the British said “freedom is better”.

    Since then the politicians dragged their feet on even invoking Article 50 and getting the process started, and then didn’t set up any of the processes needed if there was a “no deal” scenario (which was obviously the most likely outcome from the start), and thus with only around 5 months running on the clock they admit that there’s not enough preparation been done to survive a No Deal scenario, and thus propose accepting about the worst deal because it’s better than the alternatives. Total incompetence, or maybe done with malice aforethought in order to achieve remaining in the EU by the back door.

    If the UK went on WTO rules, and stated “no tariffs on imports”, then any customs problems would be someone else’s. Maybe that’s one thing I really don’t understand about these Free Trade deals. If they are so desirable, then why not use WTO rules and set the tariffs to zero, and you’ve then got a Free Trade deal with everyone who does the same. No 10-year negotiation period needed at all.

    The 2 years of negotiations weren’t about a trade deal. All that time, they were solely about the punishments for leaving the club. Any trade deals have yet to be negotiated, and there’s only a wish-list been published that is in no way legally-binding. A trade deal with Canada took 7 years, so expect the EU to take at least that long to negotiate a deal with the UK.

    As things stand, I expect the UK will not be free again for at least a decade if then. If the current “deal” is signed, then the UK won’t be able to leave the EU Customs Union unless the EU agrees. Meantime, businesses have no clarity on whether it’s worth investing, so they’ll either not invest in the UK or they’ll invest in Europe instead, so the UK will suffer as long as the politicians keep dithering. The uncertainty has already damaged the UK, and the politicians in the UK haven’t cut that short (and the EU has tried to make it worse).

    Me, I’d give the traditional two-finger salute and get the hell out.

  11. Larry Ledwick says:

    Useful item here on free speech. explains the origin of the assertion that the first amendment does not protect you if you yell fire in a crowded theater.


    In fact the Supreme court in Brandenburg v. Ohio ( 1969) set aside earlier Supreme Court decisions and clearly defined what speech is protected.

    There, the Court held that inflammatory speech–and even speech advocating violence by members of the Ku Klux Klan–is protected under the First Amendment, unless the speech “is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action” (emphasis mine).

    In what would become his second most famous phrase, Holmes wrote in Abrams that the marketplace of ideas offered the best solution for tamping down offensive speech: “The ultimate good desired is better reached by free trade in ideas — that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, and that truth is the only ground upon which their wishes safely can be carried out.”

  12. John F. Hultquist says:

    H.R. says “There were a few things that happened there that made my stocks sit up and take notice. I’ve had two days of big gains …

    And Tuesday – – about 1:30 pm the overall market is down about 2 3/4%. Ouch!

  13. H.R. says:

    Yup. Just saw the drop, John F. That sure negated my comment in a hurry, eh?

    Several months ago, E.M. did one of his market posts and as I recall, he wasn’t sure if the market would take the deep plunge or not. The signs and wonders seemed different to him, IIRC.

    All I’ve seen of the Dow since then is a big weave between 24,000 and 26,000. I’m just wondering how long the market can keep up this highly volatile weave before it finally settles on a direction. It’s gone on far longer than I thought it would. A lot does depend on the Fed, of course, and I don’t have much confidence that the Fed has the best interests of the country in mind.

    Meanwhile, I keep getting my dividend checks regardless of share price and the earnings outlook is positive for my holdings.

  14. Another Ian says:

    “Brown-to-Green Report: “G20 nations still led by fossil fuel industry”… Because fossil fuels are good for people.”


    “Paul Krugman sticks pins into the Climate Denier VooDoo Doll”


    Must be a climate conference somewhere?

  15. Another Ian says:

    Simon Re

    “If the UK went on WTO rules, and stated “no tariffs on imports”, then any customs problems would be someone else’s. Maybe that’s one thing I really don’t understand about these Free Trade deals. If they are so desirable, then why not use WTO rules and set the tariffs to zero, and you’ve then got a Free Trade deal with everyone who does the same. No 10-year negotiation period needed at all. ”

    Seems it is about all the other things but trade in those. Back when TPP was new and shiny and “all about trade” Gail Combs posted here that there were 29 chapters in that, only 5 of which mentioned trade

  16. E.M.Smith says:

    IMHO there are two major “issues” in most Climate Deals that’s their main driver.

    1) A “Must enforce ALL environmental agreements” – that is there to enforce things like The Paris “agreement” via treaty. Extending the power of treaty law to “any old agreement”. ALL of those must be removed from these deals as they are a fraud.

    2) Protection of favored voting groups. Look at the “Canada Deal” and milk. The USA got a small milk concession so we can say Trump is pro-US Farm Voters. Canada took their prior “No significant USA Milk imports” rule to “Almost no USA milk imports” so can say they are pro-Canadian Farm Voters. The “Mexico Deal” basically said some significant percent of car parts must be made by wage earners over something like $15/hour. This slows the giant sucking sound of jobs in car making to Mexico (but doesn’t stop it) while letting Mexican negotiators claim some of their workers will now get a wage rise.

    Most of the volume of the Trade Deals I’ve looked at consist of massive numbers of #2 items. Then, hidden 500+ pages in, will be the Treaty Green Hook to generalized “agreements” that hands over sovereignty to Green Groups lobby efforts.

    Oh, and somewhere or other there will be a International Arbitration Clause that removes your ability to apply domestic laws to imported goods. You know, harmful products, poison paint, damaging drugs, etc. etc. This is a general sop to Global Corporations to let them negate your national laws & rights and move any disputes into their little “built for purpose owned by them” arbitration courts off 1000s of miles from wherever you are and with $10,000 / day for you to show up and be told you lost.

    IMHO, pretty much ALL the “Trade Deals” have nothing in them for the Citizens. I’d be happy with all of them just being cancelled and going with simple WTO rules. (or simply do reciprocity: I have no tariffs unless you do; if you apply a tarrif – I match it automatically.)

  17. Another Ian says:

    “It’s time to run the prat of the year 2018 contest.”

    List at the end of


  18. Steven Fraser says:

    The House of Commons is Kicking ass in the UK today.

  19. Graeme No.3 says:

    I wonder whether the Polish government is in favour of the EU Climate policy? They chose the “Coal Capital of Europe” as the site for the Climate Conference (all 22,770 delegates) and announced a new coal mine in the weeks just before the start.

  20. J Martin says:

    Prat of the year contest. Surely a runaway win for Macron.

  21. J Martin says:

    Merkel should have won 2016 for ensuring Brexit would win the referendum when she decided to flood Europe with an invading force.

  22. Larry Ledwick says:

    So apparently the Weekly Standard is about to go under – seems being anti Trump is not a good marketing move.

    Joe Gabriel Simonson
    ‏Verified account
    Follow Follow @SaysSimonson
    EXCLUSIVE: The Weekly Standard will be closing, according to several employees and individuals close to the magazine. One editor there tells me they do not even have a budget for 2019.

  23. Another Ian says:

    AI and Tesla

    Next project software iteration – respond to flashing lights behind


  24. Another Ian says:

    Re Prat

    On early form May might be worth an each way bet.

    Though Macron is showing continuing form improvement

  25. E.M.Smith says:

    @Steven Frasier:

    I watched some of that on Sky… It was impressive. I especially liked the vote of “Contempt of Parliament” (first in the modern era for a government…) and the “parliament will decide if it is a good deal or not vote”. Then the number of folks who pointed out the “Hotel California Trade Agreement” aspect (“you can check in but you can never leave”…)

    @Another Ian:

    Oooohhh Yeah! Guess they figured the driver would always be dealing with that…

    Though the police did execute a nice ‘capture’ on it. Something I predicted would be done with autonomous trucks for hijacking.


    The field is just sooooo rich. It’s tough to call a “winner” ;-) We have an entire Climate Conference full of them… But my personal Local Favorite Son is Governor Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: While spending many $Billions ( 10 to start, likely 100 by the time done) to build an almost-high-speed train from nowhere to nowhere (East side central valley California farm country all the way) he managed to NOT have any money for Forest Fire Fighters & Equipment while assuring policies were in place to enable overgrowth of flammable shrubs and grasses in old sick forests where logging is banned.

    It’s an especially skilled Prat that can kill dozens to hundreds ( the number isn’t known yet) while destroying one of the nicest cities in the State (Paradise) and displacing 20,000+ persons. Oh, and bankrupting the major utility in 1/2 the State to the point special legislation was passed to let them soak the rate payers.

    But hey, it’s all “politically correct” and “Global Warming Friendly” policies…

  26. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like Gen Flynn will get off with no jail time (I suspect he will get a pardon when all is done to clear his record.) Lots of related chatter on twitter, by making a guilty plea he was released from any non-disclosure agreements he might have been subject to regarding activities he was aware off (in other words he could tell where all the bodies were buried)


    If the chatter is confirmed this is the opening gambit of the take down of government corruption.

  27. Ossqss says:

    I ran across a warmunista tonight in conversation. I used a new (EOP) educational opportunity process before we got into the propaganda side of it. I simply asked that before we discuss global warming, did he know what ECS or TSI was? He didn’t, and really did not want to talk any further after I explained the importance of knowing such basics before forming an opinion. Made me think a bit about the impact of fake news on societal perception overall. 2 + 2 could really be the new 5 for some it seems…….

  28. jim2 says:

    My thoughts exactly:

    Michelle Malkin described former President George H. W. Bush’s legacy as an impoverishment of American workers and growing of the “deep state,” offering her remarks in a Monday interview with Breitbart Senior Editors-at-Large Rebecca Mansour and Joel Pollak on SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight.


  29. Another Ian says:

    Re the Prat Award

    Think of the exploding heads when they find Trump didn’t even get a vote

  30. Taz says:

    makes Raspberry Pi professional

  31. beththeserf says:

    President George Bush, like President Bill Clinton (and George Soros) was a member of the Trilateral Commission ‘New World Economic Order’ from on high and Deep State all

  32. Another Ian says:


    For your economic scalpel

    “Paul Krugman sticks pins into the Climate Denier VooDoo Doll”


  33. Patrick healy says:

    Hey Mr Chiefo some great stuff on here.
    1/ sorry Teresa mayhem must be prattle of the year. I know moonbeam deserves it but time for a Brit among such deserving participants.
    2/ it appears that there are now 11 unfortunate missing in Gov Brown’s fire raising.
    3/ Top class commentating on here, especially from Mr Derricut.
    One subject near to my Irish heart, I notice my stupid fellow country men are up in arms over the fact that their will be no dedicated abortion arbitrators.
    It appears that Mr Soros’ acolytes did not realise that every hospital will have to provide abortion “services”
    Ironically this includes the many Catholic run establishments which have provided heath services since the founding of modern Ireland.
    Take about pigeons and roosts.

  34. Patrick healy says:

    Or even TALK about pigeons!

  35. cdquarles says:

    Um, pardons don’t clear your record. Pardons remove some legal disabilities that last after conviction and sentencing. That’s right, the point that you were criminally convicted, or admit that possibility given your pardon before conviction, still stands; so if you get asked “Have you ever been convicted of a felony?” post pardon, you have to say yes if you were convicted then add pardoned. The only way that I know of to clear a felony conviction is to have it expunged or reversed. I may be wrong, though, despite doing some research in to this (stepson convicted some 20 years ago … and recalling those old Rockford Files episodes ;), where the cop brings up Rockford’s prison record).

    Speaking of Flynn, what happened to him happens more often than people realize. Most of those in his situation take the deal because they know that they can’t get a fair trial or don’t have the $millions needed to have a fair chance at having a fair trial. See “Three Felonies a Day” for one such case where the defendant had the $millions needed.

  36. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting secondary consequence of the coming Brexit vote, companies in the UK are scrambling for warehouse space to build stocks so they can cushion any supply disruptions that occur during the swtich over in trade rules due to Brexit.


  37. E.M.Smith says:


    Interesting product. Basically they took the R.Pi schematics, took off the I/O connectors, and added an on board real time clock w/ battery. Then stick the thing in a box that contains the I/O connectors and a power supply, and hike the price up into the $150 to $200 range… (Board alone closer to $30)

    I like the idea, but the “all up” price is crazy.

    @Another Ian:

    Not much that’s Economics related in that. Paul Krugman? Well, we are talking about the Prat Awards… He’s left Economics and Physics and more behind and is running entirely off the Reptilian Like/Don’t-Like hind brain in those statements. When all your assertions are emotion justified, you are doing nothing beyond the ability of a reptile or not so smart rodent. That’s the part of the brain that is involved. He’s abandoned higher order thinking (or believes he has ‘reached a conclusion’ so no more thought is necessary – same thing.) and delegated response to the Reptile Hind Brain. That means there is no longer any reason to listen to what he says as he is no longer engaged in thoughtful discourse.

    @Patrick Healy:

    Well, there are so many fine candidates for Prat Of The Year… Perhaps, like Oscars, we ought to assign multiple of them by category?

    Best Prat In an International Food Fight – Theresa May
    Best Prat In a Multinational Boondoggle – Angela Merkel (for her immigration based Germany / EU Fail)
    Best Prat In a Domestic Climate Policy Revolt – Macron of France
    Best Prat in a Climate Policy Catastrophe – Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown
    Best Prat in a Domestic Boondoggle – …

    Each Awarded their Cat Ass Trophy…

    BTW, I’m fond of pigeons…. especially with a nice artichoke marinade ;-)


    It disgusts me that our “Legal System” has become a “Trap & Extort” system. Between that, and Asset Forfeiture, we are all now basically slaves of the State where you are free to tidy up your cell and decorate it to your own tastes, just so long as you don’t offend anyone; and only get whipped if someone “in power” notices you.

    You don’t really own anything anymore, just rent it from The State…

  38. Power Grab says:

    @ EM re: “…build an almost-high-speed train from nowhere to nowhere (East side central valley California farm country all the way)…”

    If they build a high-speed train, do they put up a big fence to protect it?

    Is the location useful for preventing practical, farm-country types from getting all in-your-face with the moonbeam-style elites about the stoopid things they’re doing?

    It reminds me of the Trans Texas Corridor (supposed to have been built by the Spanish, IIRC) that would have effectively split Texas into 2 separate states?

    Or could it be something like players of Sim City used to do? “Build it and they will come”. So you build an expressway out away from the developed areas, and then development happens in the area with the expressway? Developers could buy up land for a pittance, then develop it and make a killing?

    Except that if it’s a high-speed train, then you won’t have on-ramps popping up along the way…which limits the potential for folks to move out there and live normally.

    Now, what critics used to say about the Trans Texas Corridor was that it would allow, oh, say Chinese to load troops onto shipping containers, send them to Houston, offload the containers from the ships onto the trains and move them into the interior of the country with no one finding out what’s in the containers until they reached their destination.

    I haven’t seen a map of the proposed train in California. Would it be more useful for moving illegal immigrants from tunnels to locations farther inland?

    Oh! Here’s an idea! Why not build a high-speed trans-country train on our southern border? Protect it with fences and other infrastructure… Hmmmm….

  39. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Yeah, it’s 100% the case that “Progressive” or “Socialist” economics is just a giant fail.

    When I got my degree, we had to study Socialist Economics (it IS an economic system, after all) but at least in the ’70s the Prof. was at pains to explain that this was not a model to use, more something to look at from the outside and say “Tsk Tsk…” so we focused on ways it was wrong…

    IMHO, the Keynesians are almost right (more so if they actually follow what Keynes said and not their fantasy about it that is wrong…); but it’s the Austrian School / Chicago School that has it most right.


    It is built where the land is cheapest. Yes, that dumb.

    There’s an existing rail corridor up the valley. IF you take an Amtrak train from Riverside (back side of Los Angeles) to San Francisco, and I’ve done it… You get put on a bus at the Train Station in Riverside. It takes you on a tour of Southern California L.A. Metroplex and you end up over the hills in the bottom end of the Central Valley where you get on a train. That train takes you up to near Stockton (about 30 miles south of the Capital of Sacramento), where you get put on another bus that takes you to the Bay Area a couple of hours away.

    This “High Speed Rail” is roughly parallel with that line.

    Why does Amtrak NOT run a train from Riverside to San Francisco?

    The existing rail goes west into L.A. where it eventually meets a line that goes up the Coast to San Francisco. That line is in use by mostly Freight, but also some commuter rail (Cal Train up near San Jose to San Francisco) and Amtrak. It would require loading up that line more AND moving all the folks via {something} across the entire L.A. Basin to get there. Train lines are limited and costly and bus across L.A.? Really? In your dreams…

    So they decided to use the freight line that runs through the central valley (and mostly serves to connect to BNSF lines to “back east” to ship farm stuff to eastern plates). So why not extend a “spur” or something into the L.A. Basin where all your passengers are located? Well….

    Figure the typical 50 year old home on a nice lot is priced at about $1 Million. Some will be a lot more, some less. But your rail will need to consume about 50 minimum to 100 miles of those. Now the farm land where there are no homes runs some fairly large chunk above $10,000 / acre depending on what’s planted on it. Let’s just say the price of the right-of-way would be “stunning” to say the least. Much much cheaper to just run buses over the existing roads…

    So you end up with a Committee Kludge that has 2 bus lines that take about 4 hours each, to get you to and from your “high speed rail” train… that whips you along at about 100 MPH (NOT the European / Japanese 300 km/hr) for about 300 miles… All of which moves you about 415 miles that would be a 6 1/2 hour drive in about 11 hours…


    Thus the “logic” of Moonbeams “high speed rail”…

    In reality it took me closer to 12 to 13 hours to do that run on Amtrak… or maybe it was 14 to 15… I started first thing in the morning (8am bus) and got home well after dark and hungry… this in the time of sunset about 8 pm…

    Is there a “build it they will come” component? Probably. The Central Valley is now being converted to cities / burbs. They put up office buildings, some shopping, and food stores around the train stations in many places near Bart & CalTrain. I suspect that along the rail corridor, once it is built, there will be growth of metropolitan sprawl. Certainly nowhere near enough to pay for / excuse the $Billions spent; and none of it will help the L.A. / S.F. corridor traffic (that is huge and that this is supposed to help…

    At present, a segment near the middle (Kern County) is selling cheaper due to a mandate that most of the water they were using to grow crops be flushed out to sea to “save the Delta Smelt” (that can’t be saved as water isn’t the issue – it is the introduced – by The State – Japanese Smelt that is hybridizing with it and taking over the territory…I did an article on that). I doubt it’s a plot, though. More likely just rampant Green Stupidity. The right-of-way will have a price bump, but a mile away from it there will be nothing. Most of the land that’s fallow is dozens of miles away.

    For comparison:

    This is the same Jerry Brown who wants to dig a 10 m or so diameter tunnel to take the Sacramento River under the Delta and ship it to the L.A. Basin so more people can be packed in. That SAME river that must be flushed out to sea for the Delta Smelt… and must be used for farming… and must be left where it is to keep the Bay / Delta ecosystem intact….

    He has highly compartmented “thinking” and can’t connect “ship the water to L.A.” as being related to “send it through the Delta to save the Smelt”… and notice he can’t do both. It is just whatever Kool Idea pops into the news / trendy this week…

    I’m glad he’s gone off to his retirement pot farm in N. California where he can live under his own “green laws” trying to run a rural property…

    Now we get Gavin Nuisance as Governor… Hopefully he won’t be as ditzy, even if he is as hard core Socialist Left Nutbar…

    Sidebar On My Train:

    Were I doing it, I’d have STARTED in the dense metroplex where all the riders are. It would be done in large part as either elevated (like center of freeway run of BART out to Livermore where essentially no new right of way was needed, just rebuilding the places overpasses went one way and the train crossed the other) or underground (where tunnels were the best solution). I’d have light rail feeders running sideways from the main High Speed line and position their connections about 30 minutes apart. Then I’d run the rail up the existing coastal route to San Francisco. That solves both your local rail needs and the SF/LA mainline (double track it all the way so you can have all the trains you want each way as capacity builds).

    I’d also run rail from San Francisco / San Jose to Sacramento. (It mostly exists but with slow crappy service – upgrade it to high speed and reduce costs / increase frequency). From Sacramento, now it makes sense to run that Central Vally line both ways. Up to Redding and down to Bakersfield

    Then, and only then, I’d complete the line with a run from Bakersfield into the L.A. Basin over the Tejon Pass and as much as possible over the I-5 right of way (though climbing the Grape Vine will likely take a different route to get it shallow enough, but at that part the land is mostly scrub hills (NOT expensive houses… or expensive farm land).

    As an add on later, you can run from Bakersfield to Barstow and from LA to Barstow and on up into Las Vegas. Now all of the population areas of California can have a more or less direct train run to Las Vegas, or LA, or The Captial, or San Franciso…

    But that would make sense and cost more money and take a long time to build and actually start building ridership from day one… so be more self funding…

    All the BS, IMHO, stems from the notion that “Feeder Bus Service” is a “good idea” and avoids the right of way problems. It isn’t and doesn’t. Just makes it a crappy system folks will not use.

    I will now never take another “train” to L.A. having tried it once. It was vastly slower (about 1/2 the speed) than driving and cost more while being a greater PITA (less luggage possible, less comfortable, very expensive and limited food, etc. etc.)

    So that’s my take on it.

  40. A C Osborn says:

    Ossqss says: 5 December 2018 at 3:09 am
    Funny you should say that, I also had a Greenie spouting off about Meat & CO2 & Climate Change at our locaal Pub Poker night.
    I mentioned the Drop in Global Temperatures over the last 2 years and he new nothing about it.
    So I asked him if he new about the Quiet Sun or the Maunder Minimum, Nope.
    He challenged me about where I got the data from and when I said NASA he said what would they know about it.
    When I asked where he got his data from, was it the MSM, Nope, was it the BBC, Nope.
    He got his “data” from a local greenie Climate discussion group.
    My last words were if don’t know the Science it is best not to talk about it, he said not one more word.

  41. Larry Ledwick says:

    Oh this is going to be fun!

    A Bernie support has filed and election fraud lawsuit against Debbie Wasserman-Schultz
    Now all we need is a friend of the court filing from the Trump administration to tie a nice bow on it.


  42. Larry Ledwick says:

    Winter snow fall is looking up in Colorado, above average in the north and the south west is still dry but not as bad as last year.

  43. H.R. says:

    Ski wax futures are UP!

  44. jim2 says:

    EMS escapes California just in the nick of time!

    SACRAMENTO — Long a leader and trendsetter in its clean-energy goals, California took a giant step on Wednesday, becoming the first state to require all new homes to have solar power.

    The new requirement, to take effect in two years, brings solar power into the mainstream in a way it has never been until now. It will add thousands of dollars to the cost of home when a shortage of affordable housing is one of California’s most pressing issues.

  45. Pouncer says:

    Chief, you mention Marxism and Keynesian econ — did they bother to include Georgist theory about Land Rents? Plunkitt of Tammany Hall sure had an intuitive grasp of how “public” projects increased the value of property nearby — so providing insiders such as himself opportunities for enriching investments. “Honest Graft”, he called it, saying “Honest Graft is the only thing that gets the roads built.” Henry George was not so enthusiastic about how the value might be distributed.

    Seems to me George and Plunkitt, between them, laid the rails for the Chicago School’s James Buchanan’s work on Public Choice trading.

    ANYHOW, the idea that superfast rail would find a market somehow to me seems to depend on the notion that there are crowds of people lined up near the main departure terminals who all want to go to the same destination terminals, at the same times, (and back in similar groups) and nobody ever needs to commute out FROM a main terminal along smaller routes. Instead every real world logistics network runs more of “daisy petal” or “hub and spoke” configurations. Veins and Arteries feed in and out of capillaries. Have these people never ever heard of “the last mile” problem?

  46. Taz says:

    One could always watch video through the Tor network, but Youtube did everything they could to thwart that via lots of javascript nastiness.

    Now you have a new option: http://kgg2m7yk5aybusll.onion

    Watch from there, and Google seems to have no power :) Playback will be a bit slower for the video to come on, but once it starts – has been stable here. Kinda surprising since it goes through seven hops.

    Good tool. Might play with it and see if it can be integrated into Roku playback :) I’m impressed. Might look around for a tip jar then send them some money. YMMV

    [–]system33-Distinguished Contributor 14 points 14 hours ago

    It was already possible to watch YouTube in Tor Browser.

    [–]whonix-os[S] 4 points 12 hours ago

    Yes , but here are some differences with anonymity/privacy advantages:

    1- Youtube requires you to allow JS , that link doesnt

    2- Connection to youtube happened like:

    Your IP -> ONION ROUTER 1,2,3 -> Youtube

    while with invidious onion

    Your IP -> Onion Router 1,2,3 -> Onion Router 1,2,3 -> invidious onion

    3- No Google traffic/data analysis (even though that your connection coming from Tor to Youtube).

  47. Another Ian says:

    “Worse than “ABC News Maths”

    So a 12% rate hike that will cost average households more that $100 per year saves them money?

    Has Orwellian speak now migrated to finance?

    “Under a renewable energy proposal from Northern Indiana Public Service Company (NIPSCO), Indiana consumers would face a 12 percent electricity rate hike, which will cost the average household more than $100 per year in additional electricity costs. NIPSCO is justifying its renewable power rate hike by asserting renewable power saves consumers money, but there’s absolutely no truth to these claims.”


  48. E.M.Smith says:


    We didn’t have anything specifically labeled “Georgist”.

    The Last Mile is, in their way of thinking, what the bus system is for. Yes, you got it, EVERY trip is going to start and end on a bus, with 2 transfers on and off the trains.

    They are not “fond” of the idea of large free or low cost parking lots at the train terminals. That’s not ‘green’ enough, you see. You really need to be encouraged to leave the car at home and take the bus… twice… and a train in the middle….


    CNBC reporting the President of Huawei (Chinese router / cell phone / comms gear) has been arrested in Canada (changing planes) and is to be extradited to the USA for breaking sanctions on selling stuff to Iran…

    This is going to get interesting… Expect to see some Americans arrested in or near China… (It’s “what they do”, guilty of anything or not…)


    I’ll take a look…

    @Another Ian:

    Any and all predictions / projections of cost / benefit presented at any government hearing are all stuff and nonsense. “Given these conclusions what assumptions can we draw?” drives it all.

  49. Another Ian says:

    6 Dec: Heartland Institute: PRESS RELEASE: Solidarity, Heartland Institute Sign Historic Climate Communique at COP24
    By James Taylor, Jim Lakely
    Polish labor union that stood up to the Soviet Bloc and changed the world joins Heartland on front lines of resistance to climate alarmism
    KATOWICE, POLAND (December 6, 2018) – The Heartland Institute and representatives of Solidarity, the historic labor union founded by Nobel Peace Prize winner Lech Walesa that helped bring down the Iron Curtain, signed a joint statement on Wednesday calling on the United Nations at COP24 to ensure the “restoration of the Scientific Method and the dismissal of ideological dogma at the United Nations.”

    The joint statement, created at Solidarity’s prompting and written cooperatively between the two organizations on December 5, was submitted to the UN Conference of the Parties climate conference in Katowice today…READ ALL

  50. Larry Ledwick says:

    This could be interesting:

    Judicial Watch
    ‏Verified account
    12 minutes ago
    BREAKING: In a ruling excoriating both the State Dept & the DOJ, U.S. District Court Judge Lamberth ordered both to join Judicial Watch in submitting a discovery plan into whether Hillary Clinton tried to evade FOIA by using a private email system. (1/10)


  51. Larry Ledwick says:

    Also apparently a new very large oil & gas discovery in the US. I wonder if this is related to the recent agreement between Saudi Arabia and Russia to cut production to hold up oil prices while they still have enough production share to influence prices?


  52. H.R. says:

    The 1st Annual Chiefio Blog Christmas Party and Dodgy Proceedings was conducted tonight at the Linger Lodge.

    The traditional Christmas gator bites, frog legs, and fried green tomatoes were served accompanied by the custom brewed Linger Lodge Lager (vintage… um…. well… pretty fresh and very good).

    One order of business was raised. After a highly persuasive, impeccably logical, and factual argument was presented by Member-at-Large, ossqss, a vote was taken and it was unanimously decided by all in attendance that the Chiefio Blog had the best-looking commenters and followers in the blogosphere.

    A breakout session from the main group attempted to determine if large-mouth bass would continue to hit artificial baits immediately after a cold front passes through a given area. An impromptu experiment was hastily devised and the data – 2 modest-sized bass landed and recorded – indicated that bass would continue to hit, but with decidedly less enthusiasm than under standard fair weather conditions. A sudden, but not entirely unexpected, attack by a squadron of mosquitoes terminated the experiment before data collection was complete.

    The meeting adjourned with some attendees retiring to a comfortable sitting area well-decorated with cheerful traditional icons of the Christmas season.

    In parting, some of the attendees agreed to possible meetings for further experimentation on the feeding habits of saltwater fish, time and meeting place undetermined as other business matters might interfere with more rigorous experimentation.

    ~Minutes submitted for approval by The Chiefio
    H.R. – Recording Secretary

  53. E.M.Smith says:

    Minutes Approved – with the addendum that the West Coast Contingent is having a bit of Irish Dew on the rocks while slaving over a hot computer… and contemplating what kinds of further experiments might be conducted on perch vs bass and worms vs lures…

  54. H.R. says:

    Addendum to The Proceedings

    The rattlesnakes in attendance were denied a vote on the sole issue raised in the meeting. I fear there may be some unforeseen backlash arising from the decision to exclude them from the vote. The ‘gators in attendance were delicately seasoned and cooked to perfection. I don’t anticipate any untoward displays of outrage from them.


  55. Larry Ledwick says:

    The Rocky Mountain contingent was unable to attend due to work obligations but wishes the others a happy holiday season and suggests they continue with their data gathering efforts as time permits.

  56. H.R. says:

    @Larry – I completely understand the the Rocky Mountain contingent’s overwhelming workload at this time of the year, but I am puzzled by the low showing of the International Chapters.

    Were there ill winds aloft? Did the demonstrations in France affect attendance? Did tsunamis prevent people from dipping their toes in the water? Did the alligators conspire with Russia to curtail international contingent participation? Did Macedonian content farmers have anything at all to do with this? Would it help if the Linger Lodge was more centrally located?

    Perhaps it was the failure to mention that Buckeyes were on the dessert menu. That was an inadvertent, but egregious oversight.


  57. E.M.Smith says:

    Perhaps it was just night there and they are all asleep… ;-)

  58. Another Ian says:


    ” New column just posted!

    Mueller’s team has a Strzok problem, even if they and the DNC Media Complex try to downplay and ignore it.https://t.co/gJ83MMINKi

    — Brian Cates (@drawandstrike) December 6, 2018″


    And links

  59. Another Ian says:

    The very fast train mirage is also alive in Australia

    “Gladys B getting the lowdown on the Very Fast Train project”


  60. Another Ian says:

    Jo Nova in good form this morning

    “Dr Shearman diagnoses men who walked on moon, Nobel Prize winners, as “Delusional” ”


  61. Another Ian says:

    “O/Topic guys, but this one is pretty big IMO. Sargon of Akkad, aka Carl Benjamin, just got dropped by Patreon (a system for monetising creators on Youtube and other platforms). When someone as relatively milquetoast as Sargon gets booted you know the purge is on in earnest. the internet will be unrecognizable (and not in a good way) is this trend persists. The material I posted some months back was just the beginning. This is now stepping up a gear or three.”


  62. ossqss says:

    FWIW, I just grabbed this on amazon and the code worked. $19.99, now I hope it works as I use clunky enclosures now and this looks perfect for the variation of drives I use for storage and data retrreival on other folks toasted devices.


  63. ossqss says:

    I felt compelled to share this important video on self defense. Please do not try this at home ;-)


  64. ossqss says:

    I can attest the HR Linger Lodge post is indeed accurate.. There was beer, frogs, gators, beer, fish, beer, and skeeters involved in the meeting prior to it being ajorned! Acorns too ;-)

  65. H.R. says:

    @ossqss – Doh! I think I’m onto it now. We need to announce the meeting date and location before the meeting, not afterwards. I’d bet attendance would double.

    But if not, we could just stay twice as long. That way every attendee counts twice as much, right? I believe the YSM uses that method to report the number of attendees at Hillary’s rallies.

  66. E.M.Smith says:

    Or you could just pick a place, get the table all set up, and staff if for a few weeks as folks straggle in…. I’m hoping to make another trip to Florida “soon”… so sometime in the next few months ;-)

    I’m sure if you keep buying beer they’ll let you keep the table ;-,)

  67. Larry Ledwick says:

    Heads up if you are using Brave Browser, they are pushing an update that obsoletes the former version of Brave it will give an error “the Brave Browser installer has stopped working” and then tell you that you need to down load the newest code.

    Before you do that export your book marks to a safe place, the new down load does not preserve existing book marks in the old install.

    I get to recreate all my bookmarks – lucky me.

  68. E.M.Smith says:


    One of the things I do is periodically duplicate my environment onto an archive. Just tar off my system. Think how many copies of a 2 GB install fit on a $100 4 GB disk.

    Just avoiding one of these boondoggles by being able to restore to “last week” makes it all well worth it.

    (OTOH, I rotate through so many platforms and logins that really I don’t have all my “bookmarks” in any organized place. I’ve started keeping them in a file… but then I never go back and look at them… )

    I’m slowly being pushed into the position of a “Roll My Own” distribution with a set of route blocks to China / Russia and ad blocking DNS built in; then with a custom FireFox / IceWeasle / SeaMonkey that has anti-add defenses by default… I started on learning the “how to build a system from sources” and have done it with LFS, BSD, and Gentoo; so I’m pretty close on the skill set needed. Add some browser hacking and I’m pretty much there.

    Periodically the notion of a MikeyOS nags at me ;-)

    I’m about 1/2 way there at present…

    Devuan or Gentoo w/


    Next step is to make a system build environment. I already have the distcc cluster, and it was only a few hours for the Gentoo build on just one board. I’m probably about 6 months from a full up nice and fast build system to make an OS with “distributed compiles” so things are closer to 5 minutes than 5 hours. Then it’s just “What to put in and what makes it worth the build?”

    We’ll see…

  69. Larry Ledwick says:

    I do the same on fire fox which is where most of my bookmarks live, on Brave I only use it for a handful of sites so had not bothered to save a book mark file, it is just obnoxious for them to tell you to down load the new version since the old is not supported and neither preserve bookmarks or tell you to back them up before you do the new install.

    I intentionally keep Brave pretty bare so there is very little info to harvest from the browser if some intrusive web site starts trying to get nosy, which is difficult since brave intentionally suppresses that sort of behavior (which is why I use it to reduce my data leakage from browser fingerprinting)

  70. p.g.sharrow says:

    Micky mOS……………………..LoL pg

  71. jim2 says:

    (Ir)rational Wiki? Check out their take on Carl Benjamin. Can you say “Wild-eyed communist rag?”


  72. Another Ian says:

    Music to the ears

    “President Trump – Getting The Job Done!”

    “Angela Merkel is complaining that President Trump is succeeding at doing exactly what he promised to do, and winning the hearts of Europeans in the process.”

    “Trump has almost destroyed the “New World Order” ”


  73. E.M.Smith says:


    That wiki description is not the person I see in the videos… I think they have red colored glasses on… ;-)

    @Another Ian:

    Let them heap that belief on Trump. The reality is that the PEOPLE of Europe have had it and are just seeing Trump as an icon on a far away hill.

  74. Larry Ledwick says:

    File this under things you should know in a cooling world.
    How to self rescue if you break through ice.

  75. beththeserf says:

    New World Order it’s a chameleon, a phoenix. Just when you think it’s dead and buried,
    up it rises, post WW2, post cold war… too many would be Platos,’ we will tell you what to
    think and say.’ Can’t let down yr guard.

  76. beththeserf says:

    Oops must have fergot 0 Go to end of line and keep typing. (

  77. beththeserf says:

    Its a hubris thing.

  78. Larry Ledwick says:

    Lots of chatter on twitter about the health of the King of Saudi Arabia

    Rosie Memos ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ Retweeted
    6 hours ago
    BREAKING: Unconfirmed reports suggesting Saudi King Salman is very ill and possibly dying, Saudi Palais on high alert, several events involving the King have reportedly been canceled.

  79. Ossqss says:

    Hummm, always interested in wondering about things.

    No idea how this ended up in my inbox, but thought to share it. ;-)

    Facinating, no?

  80. Another Ian says:


    “New post of WUWT, Really needs reading and understanding


    Next comment

    “Bob Tisdale in comments comes up with a Margaret Thatcher quote from her 2002 book STATECRAFT:

    “The doomsters’ favorite subject today is climate change. This has a number of attractions for them. First, the science is extremely obscure so they cannot easily be proved wrong. Second, we all have ideas about the weather: traditionally, the English on first acquaintance talk of little else. Third, since clearly no plan to alter climate could be considered on anything but a global scale, it provides a marvellous excuse for worldwide, supra-national socialism.” “

  81. Larry Ledwick says:

    Meet Dawn a Mesolithic teenage girl from Greece, who lived about 9000 years ago.

  82. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like the globalist house of cards is beginning to come apart.

  83. Another Ian says:

    Another point to ponder


    Is the US Deep State fully rogue and is it trying to provoke a war with Russia? Imagine what that will do to fuel and coal prices?”


  84. Another Ian says:

    Nice Polish touch at that latest climate bunfest.

    “DELINGPOLE: UN Climate Conference Wrecked by Revolting French and Trolling Poles”


  85. H.R. says:

    @Another Ian: GE is my one indulgence in pure stock speculation. I bought a small stake ($1,500) just on a bet that they could disentangle their profitable businesses from their insurance business, which is the millstone around the company’s neck. When I bought the shares, the book value of GE’s assets was more than its market value.

    I believe a few of their divisions, if they could be spun off, would each have a market value greater than the current company priced as a whole.

    It’s a tossup whether I should have taken the $1,500 to a casino for a day of entertainment on the slot machines before losing the money vs my decision to put that money into the GE slot machine. The reels are still spinning on GE, but it’s not looking good for hitting 777s.

  86. Jon K says:

    Youtube puts together a rewind every year. Basically, it’s a compilation of the most watched and liked videos of the year. This year’s came out on 12/6 and has set a record for the most down-voted (7 million currently) and quickest to a million down-votes in history. When my son, a senior in high school, showed this to me while laughing and said “Everybody hates youtube now”. Censoring and demonitizing does not play well with that age grout and when you lose the young, you’re destined for the path of Myspace…

  87. Larry Ledwick says:

    Story finally coming out about what really happened with the Russian blockade/seizure of the Ukraine gun boats and tug. It was plain and simple a preplanned ambush.

    From twitter:
    Michael Carpenter
    ‏Verified account
    Follow Follow @mikercarpenter
    Russian perfidy in the Kerch Strait was even worse than I thought. Just met in Kyiv with Ukraine’s Navy Commander, Admiral Voronchenko, who said the (Russian) Kerch Maritime Authority had radioed the Ukrainians and requested they wait for an escort to pass the strait. 1/3

    The Ukrainian trio of ships were directed to an anchorage to await further instructions. That’s when they were ambushed by FSB boats and attack helicopters. Only the tug was rammed because the small gunships were too fast. FSB boats next opened fire on the retreating boats. 2/3

    [ note the Russians said the cause of their action was that the Ukraine boats had strayed outside the normal navigation channel into a prohibited area ]

    The Ukrainians also intercepted comms where the FSB instructed the Kerch Maritime Authority not to reply to the Ukrainian request for passage until the FSB boats were positioned to attack. This was an pre-planned ambush pure and simple. 3/3

  88. Ossqss says:

    Quite amazing what a ream of paper can do!

  89. Larry Ledwick says:

    Geeze that video is painful to watch,!
    If he would cut the high energy southern California used car sales pitch gimmick and just do the test – – –

    I got through abut 2/3rds of it.

    Dry paper is a very effective bullet stopper, not a big surprise (not news either), but he did show expedient hardening is possible.

  90. E.M.Smith says:

    I saw a video a while ago where a guy tested a laminated polyethylene bullet plate in a vest. It was impressive too.

    I suspect that a layered system of kevlar fabric glued to ceramic glued to metal (in many many thin layers) would work very well. Ceramic disrupts the bullet, metal deforms it and spreads the energy into more mass at lower speeds, kevlar catches the bits; then it repeats in the next layer…

  91. H.R. says:

    @Ossqss – The lesson I get from that video is that if you ever have an active shooter situation at work, head for the copy room and start stuffing the reams of copy paper into your clothes.

  92. Jon K says:

    This just tickles me. I really love it when Schumer just totally dismisses Indiana and North Dakota lol

  93. philjourdan says:

    @Jon K – the democrats are prone to telling the truth when they lose control. Chuckie lost control. Another Deplorables moment.

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