W.O.O.D. – 19 December 2018


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:
and remains open for threads running there
(at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

So use “Tips” for “Oooh, look at the interesting ponder thing!”
and “W.O.O.D” for “Did you see what just happened?! What did you think about it?”

What’s Going On?

December 13th came and went without any special events. Another rumor dies, again.

In a Groundhog Day moment we have almost the same statement on Brexit, with more time run off the clock. New news in ():

Ms T. May presented her Brain Fart Brexit BINO plan, got roasted, and ran off to the EU to “renegotiate” rather than face an honest vote. The EU has said NO Renegotiation! – but they can ‘explain it more’… Such sweethearts… (T.May has returned with no significant changes). She tried to satisfy the folks on both sides of the Brexit Fence with an average of their positions, but splitting your crotch over a sharp fence is the worst of both worlds not the best. She needs to pick A side and support it. The Remoaners are hoping to parlay this into a Remain. The Brexiteers need to just take a crash out and be done. There’s not enough time left to do it right.

(T.May put the vote on “Her Plan” off into next year, burning more Clock Time and assuring she gets her way of “My deal or no deal”. One hopes Britain is smart enough to take the “no deal” and leave the pen. It is the EU that benefits from UK trade, about €50 Billion / year worth. Under WTO rules, the UK can still trade with the whole world and without the EU noose, while getting new Sweetheart Deals from the likes of: USA, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, India,… Project Fear is just that. Unfounded fear. Inside 100 days we get the final answer, maybe, unless they extend the Brexit date, and abuse the too patient UK citizens.)

COP24 came and went with everyone agreeing on how to measure their emissions (of CO2, not the flatulence from their collective mouths). As the USA wasn’t volunteering for the money shakedown, everyone else was grumpy at no fat wallet to raid. Didn’t stop them from selling Guilt & Fear, even if it wasn’t being bought by the USA.

The UN General Assembly has accepted the “UN Migration Pact”. Not sure what this means as the General Assembly doesn’t really do much. With 1/2 the EU saying NO! will the EU override those Nations? The USA is “out” as well. So where are all these 3rd World poor going to overwhelm with this new mandate to move? Did Canada or Australia sign up for this “pact”? Will most of Africa be packing up to move to Brazil? Will they end up in Germany? Will it be Germanistan or Germansasha?

It continues cold and snowy around the world. Is there no way to adequately demonstrate that it is NOT warmer? (Rhetorical…)

It is Christmas next week, so Merry Christmas!

France has Macron doing a furious backpedal. Now the Police are scheduling a strike day since they’ve not been paid something like €1/4 million of overtime pay. Macron has offered a €300 “bonus” for those police called to Paris for the Yellow Vests. About €33 million so a bit over 10% of what’s already pended over the last decade. Really? NOT paying folks for time worked is OK? When they are the guys with the guns and assuring things stay peaceful? Amazing…

Trump says he wants to leave Syria as ISIS is pretty much done in. Suddenly folks are all upset about us NOT occupying some other nation. Perhaps because the whole idea was to drive a load of “Syrian Refugees” into the EU & USA? Having peace break out would be sooo horrible for that… The assertion is it would be a “win for Russia and for Assad”. Well so what? We have no reason to tell Syria how to govern itself and I don’t see where we’ve made life any better for anyone in the area. Let Russia fix the mess. It’s pretty much bombed to hell anyway. All those USA Companies hoping for $Billions of “rebuilding contracts”? Well maybe next time they want a war somewhere to raise some revenue they will have a bit of a think first…

TDS – Trump Derangement Syndrome, has reached a new high (or maybe new low…) as some depressed biologist has named an amphibian after Donald Trump. It’s a blind critter that lives underground so the tag line is “hides head in the sand”. Politicizing the naming of species. Just crazy bad TDS.

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145 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 19 December 2018

  1. John F. Hultquist says:

    A biologist, depressed or not, should know that “hides head in the sand” is a silly cliché and an incorrect analogy when thinking of an ostrich.
    Besides, for a blind critter to survive underground is something to be applauded.
    Think of Trump, a non-politician and not “of the swamp” to step in and turn the lot of them on their heads.
    Make America Great Again

    It is a shame about France. I hope to live long enough to see France and Europe become nice places, likable, livable, and visitable. Not that I want to visit. Just saying.

    Syria “… is pretty much bombed to hell …;
    Let Russia fix the mess, …”

    The policy of sanctioning Russia for sins real or imagined rightly provokes it to respond in other ways. Still, there isn’t a lot that can be done for Syria.
    Russia itself is not in good shape.

    Russia’s population peaked in the early 1990s . . . with about 148 million people in the country. Russia’s population … will decline from the current 143 million to 111 million by 2050, a loss of more than 30 million people and a decrease of more than 20%.

    The age structure, births, deaths, and so on indicate Russia is going to have a long tail of trouble.

  2. Serioso says:

    I posted this on your “Global Cooling” page, but no one picked up on it, probably ’cause I was very late. Here it is again:

    Some Data, Some Thoughts, Some Intelligence on the Subject of Global Warming

    According to a variety of sources [you can look them up], our planet has been warming at a rate of 0.0157°C per year over the past fifty or sixty or seventy years. The equation is T = 0.0157 y +K, where K is an arbitrary constant depending on when the data series starts and which database is used. What you probably don’t know is the sigma, ϭ, or standard deviation from this straight line. It is ± 0.0955, or six times the slope. To put it in plain language, the annual slope is only one-sixth of the standard deviation. Because changes around two standard deviations are not at all rare, from one year to the next one can expect, from time to time, random changes of at least 0.2°C from one year to the next. Such changes are possible, even likely.

    So: What does this mathematical information say about the possibility of global cooling? First of all, it says a yearly cooling of 0.2°C is likely to happen once in a while. But what about a much bigger cooling, 0.4°C or 0.5°C? That sounds like a 4ϭ or 5ϭ event, much more unlikely, right? No, not if one breaks down the time series by shorter intervals, months [or even weeks]. Then the “noise,” i.e., the standard deviation, increases, and the slope becomes even smaller compared to the noise. Guess what? By cherry picking end points, it’s an easy chore to find periods of time where the average global temperature decreases sharply. And what does this mean? Absolutely nothing, except that there are human beings who prefer cherry picking to serious analysis. Which is, in part, why I chose my moniker: I prefer serious dialog to politicised noise.

    As for comments on local climate in California/Colorado/Nowheresville, what can I say except to point to their complete lack of serious relevance. We are talking about the whole earth! Comments about local climate lack serious intellectual engagement with the subject at hand. Not that I’m surprised. It is obvious that almost no one read the source article, which said pretty much the same thing I have said here. It would appear that y’all will believe anything that supports your prejudgments. Shame!

  3. Another Ian says:

    E.M. A chance to add to your whisky collection via a competition

    “Hi jo,
    you may have come across this already, but for all followers, not constantly following the GWPF site,
    have some fun.. Christmas Competition- The Tallest Climate Tales Of 2018
    • Date: 19/12/18
    • Global Warming Policy Forum
    An international competition for our readers, friends and supporters

    We at the Global Warming Policy Forum like to keep a close eye on what the press and the broadcast media have to say about global warming science. Some of it is, it’s fair to say, pretty far removed from anything a reasonable person would recognise as, well, science. We had a very apt example, just this week, with the BBC caught making up spurious “facts” about penguins in Africa.
    With the season of goodwill and merriment upon us, we thought it would be fun to celebrate the dedicated work of our friends in green public relations. We are therefore inviting you to take part in our special competition, with a chance to win some excellent prizes. Simply tell us about what you think was the tallest green tale of 2018, and explain to us why it was so daft.
    Nominations together with rebuttals should be emailed to harry.wilkinson@thegwpf.com
    Deadline: 31 December 2018.
    Prize: Two GWPF books (Group Think and Population Bombed) plus a bottle of House of Lords whisky.
    The GWPF team will decide the winner of the competition early in in the new year.
    Good luck, and Merry Christmas!
    The Forum team”


  4. Another Ian says:

    Also to get an update on solar power in Australia via that reference – “frying tonight”?

  5. E.M.Smith says:


    Since there is NO global temperature, and any “average of temperatures” is meaningless ( it being an intrinsic property) all the math machinations around that hypothetical yet meaningless “average temperature” are also meaningless.

    So very little reason to bother replying to them. Dancing angels on heads of pins not being useful.

    Per “local weather” being unimportant: The “global average of weather” that is climate is based on those local observations. When you look all over at the specifics, and they are colder, it undermines the idea that the average of them is warmer. It’s a basic “sanity check” on the data source.

    ” It would appear that y’all will believe anything that supports your prejudgments. Shame!”

    Then you go off to mindless insults again. And you wonder why folks don’t feel any interest to engage with you…

    Also of note is that someone posting an article or link does NOT mean they “believe” it. They can make a posting just to denigrate it, to examine it, as a point of curiosity, as a mild interest but unsure of the veracity, as an interesting approach but unsure it is valid; or as something that looks good, and they would like to believe, but want to kick around first.

    You have once again leapt off a cliff of conclusion too soon.

  6. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Hmmmm…. I DO like whisky… ;-) and whiskey too ;-)

    (Wonder which way the Canadians spell it… )

    @John F.H.:

    Russia has issues, but I think they will come out the better off compared to the EU; since shortly Europe will cease being Europe and start being Middle East / Africa…

    They can always decide to make more babies ;-) while restoring Europe once occupied will not be possible.


    Oh, and as celebration of getting Pocket PiHole nearly done and basically working “wine was involved” ;-) so any failure to respond on the other thread on my part was unrelated to your comment being either late or ignored. Sometimes folks are just Away From Keyboard for a while.

  7. llanfar says:

    Pot, meet kettle 😜

    @E.M. Per “Hmmmm…. I DO like whisky… ;-) and whiskey too ;-)”…

    “Dancing angles on heads of pins not being useful.” How many angles do Angels have?

  8. philjourdan says:

    @Serioso – when your variance is larger than your trend, you have no trend. That is what your data is saying. Mathematically.

    Take a course in statistics.

  9. R. de Haan says:

    Insight in the absolute nonsense that is written in the proposed Brexit treaty, the broad and energetic opposition and the fearless attitude in regard to a “hard Brexit”…
    Farage has a lot of prominent support now and he hates to loose.

    The bigger problem is with Westminster and their dispute with the British electorate which is reaching a boiling point, a very rare state of the British mind set.

    It could very well be that a Hard Brexit is followed by a hard removal of the sitting Westminster political elite.

    Hopefully they will take advantage of the opportunity and save their power infra structure while booting the Green Insanity.

  10. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well there’s your problem!

    ‏Verified account
    10 Sep 2017
    Worldwide, females earn $18 trillion, but spend $28 trillion.

  11. R. de Haan says:

    French Climate Realists open a petition to end the energy transformation.

    You can sign here:


  12. R. de Haan says:

    @Larry Ledwick

    You know about the guy who applied for a gender change operation?
    “Well”, the surgeon said. “We have to undertake three separate operations.”
    “First we make you some nice breasts.” “During the second operation we make you a nice vagina.”

    “So what’s the third operation for.” the guy asked.

    “That’s when we make a big hole in your hand.”

  13. E.M.Smith says:


    Didn’t I mention that wine was involved? (And a bit too much of it… ) ;-) But, OK, I’ll fix it ….

    @R. de Haan:

    With any luck…

    Hmmm…. as I qualify for a British passport, and Britain is, for now, still in the EU, can I sign the petition? (I know, how Republican of me… to actually care if I’m allowed to vote…)


    I like the idea of just conducting “ongoing training” of the US Military all along the border. Since they must build roads & fences and such every time the set up a camp somewhere, the Seabees and Combat Engineers do a LOT of surveying, roads, bridges, and barricades. As there is turnover in the units, need for training is ongoing… so just assign them to the border building sections of wall out of the Military Budget… As much of the cost is the survey and roads, even if someone squawks about the actual barrier wall, the rest can be done from the Military budget.

    That’s how Hadrian did it…

    At present they build stuff then take it down then build it again, for training. Similarly, I could easily see holding all the new recruit training in scouting and interdiction and prisoner camps and all happen at the border…

    Then, while Congress is tied up i court trying to say the Commander In Chief can’t command a non-War and that the Military Budget can’t be spent on The Military as deteremined by the Commander In Chief, well, the wall will be finished by the time it gets to the Supremes…

  14. E.M.Smith says:


    In addition to the observation that variation way out side of slope means you have no information in the slope, there’s this bit:

    “By cherry picking end points, it’s an easy chore to find periods of time where the average global temperature decreases sharply. ”

    And just as easily instead to “find periods of time where the average of global temperatures increaases sharply.” I’ve seen evidence of just that sort of cherry picking in the temperatures that get averaged. See the “Mysterious Marble Bar” posting, for example:


    Since temperatures are cyclical on several scales, just by choosing your start point on the individual time series you can create an “average of temperature anomalies” that rises over time. It’s all in the splicing.

    Making slopes on cyclical time series data is another fools errand (or fraudsters tool).

  15. John F. Hultquist says:

    Regarding Russia: Yes, it will remain ethnically Russian. That’s a big plus. except to the UN & EU elite, George Soros, and (apparently) many USA Democrats.

  16. Pouncer says:

    “Climate change” doesn’t equate to “Global warming”. If the two terms were exactly identically synonymous the latter would never have been introduced.

    Clearly, “Change” means that one polar region may be cooling while the other is warming; that dry regions are getting warmer while wet regions are getting dryer; that continents that have escaped hurricanes in prior centuries face such storms in the future, while continents that have had nearly routine incursions of such extreme weather are already seeing fewer, milder, and less damaging storms each year than in decades past. Rivers change their courses and sandbars form or erode, and few if any of the changes can be predicted with any skill.

    It is a curious feature of the political climate that so called “Conservatives” are NOT active in preserving the current state of affairs in exactly the state we have enjoyed the past two centuries — “the conservationist” view — while the soi-disant “Progressives” act on the prospect of change in their local (or average) environment as if in terror of unadulterated disaster — a form of “metathesiophobia”.

    While making reference to “alarmists” and “metathesiophobics” as if they are one group or tribe may not be a usage that is strictly exactly identically synonymous, the latter term does, I’m sure, fit nicely into the modern lexicon of Islamophobia, homophobia, xenophobia, and similar political groupings that “view with alarm” certain trends.

    As with many such chronic fears, metathesiophobia may be helpfully addressed with various forms of “liquid courage” such as whisky.

  17. Another Ian says:

    A tune for the day, the dog identity is an extra. Be warned that KBW is from the rougher side of Oz music.


    Actually John Prine got there first (about 1987) with his “Common Sense ” track from the album of the same name.

    “It don’t make no sense that common sense don’t make no sense no more”

    Laydown misere for theme-song of the 21st century

    (A couple of IMO’s there).

  18. Terry Jay says:

    Trump Derangement Syndrome: Make America Grate Again

  19. Ossqss says:

    CO2 works.

  20. Power Grab says:

    Wow! What a great example of how beneficial CO2 is for plants! :-D

  21. Larry Ledwick says:

    This has been going on all night now, it appears someone is experimenting with a way to shut down an entire airport by intentionally flying multiple drones over the runways.

    Looks like major airports have a new exposure if they do not have a method (electric pulse or RF guns to take the things down).


    The other option would be to train raptors to take out the drones, it does not take much to tumble them enough that stability is unrecoverable and they crash.

    Drone swarm attacks are going to be a huge problem until methods are worked out to rapidly take them down, or rapidly pinpoint the location of the controlling station.

  22. Larry Ledwick says:

    World Events Live
    8 minutes ago
    #UPDATE: Situation at #Gatwick airport is still ongoing and drones are still flying over the airport. #UK military has been deployed to assist with the situation. -Gage


  23. Larry Ledwick says:

    There are countermeasures available but probably not in wide use. That will change quickly with this episode.

    Skywall net capture system video

  24. E.M.Smith says:


    Interesting article on the use of concrete in battle. It went to SPAM, but the only thing I can think of is your email address (that requests the NSA be curbed).


    Any shotgun will do the job too.

    I saw an interesting “pulse cannon” that sent a radio zapping EMP at them. Basically a radio transmitter and a couple of helical antennas (so a very narrow beam of the end of the helix) run in a pulse mode (so more W than full time operation would allow without overheating). Enough it would just zap their radio at a distance. Sorry, didn’t keep a link…

    This looks like an improved commercial version:

    Oh Boy! No kidding (just snickering!) Looks like there’s a DIY one that just swamps the signal (no frying) built using, wait for it, DIY, with a… Raspberry Pi !!!


    Now I know what to do with my other old Model M2 …. ;-)


    Here’s the make article:

    Looks like there are 2 different drone control systems. Direct radio & wifi – this only works on the WiFi controlled drones. Still, interesting:

  25. Larry Ledwick says:

    Major earthquake off Kamchatcka

    Strategic Sentinel
    ‏Verified account
    17 minutes ago
    A very strong #Earthquake has occurred in the Komandorskiye Ostrova Region of #Russia in the Bering Sea. Estimates currently put it at 7.3-7.8 magnitude at 5km depth.

    Strategic Sentinel
    ‏Verified account
    14 minutes ago
    The earthquake is not expected to cause a tsunami at this time.

  26. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes there has been much dabbling with EMP type weapons to zap drones, but until now it was just a likely future threat. These appear to be “industrial” drones not common consumer drones, so it also raises the interesting possibility that someone could design intentionally difficult to neutralize “attack drones” that were pulse protected or used non-standard control frequencies or even spread spectrum control systems which would be very difficult to locate and block.

  27. Larry Ledwick says:

    On the border wall, looks like the private funding approach is gaining some traction and they are trying to set up a means to direct targeted funding to the wall from private sources. If that is accomplished I would gladly make a large donation to wall construction.


  28. Larry Ledwick says:

    @Ossqss – Yep aware of efforts to train raptors to take down drones.

    I think the other option would be to take cheap RC aircraft and just ram the drones, The RC airplanes are a lot faster than the drones but not as maneuverable. Given the drone operator is probably a long way from the airport, the local RC operator should be able to take them down faster than the remote operator can evaluate best evasive action.

  29. H.R. says:

    @Larry L.: Just wait until the gamers find out that it’s great fun to do actual aerial battle over an airport as opposed to mere video battles on a screen in their basement. There’ll be no end to to flight disruptions.

    Note: Expect video game companies to suffer a drop in revenue. Expect model aircraft and drone manufacturers’ revenues to see a sharp increase. Consider the implications in the stock market and buy/sell/abstain as you see fit.

    (Only half-kidding.)

  30. Larry Ledwick says:

    Consider the requirement that drones have a kill switch signal that can be sent to them to force them to ground.

  31. H.R. says:

    Consider pirate drones that don’t have a kill switch or the kill switch is disabled.

    My guess is that law enforcement will very quickly get very good at zeroing in on the control signal location.

    My other bit of speculation is that law enforcement will have about the same success rate stopping drones as they have at stopping taggers.

  32. Ossqss says:

    All decent retail drones have geofencing around airports and other sensitive no fly areas along with a 400′ max height. I was required to get an FAA license when I got mine a few years back. I know you can jail break a drone. I read they sent the military in with drone killers at that airport.

  33. philjourdan says:

    Interesting education statistics. https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/least-educated-state-california-no-1-percentage-residents-25-and

    The interesting part is that for most of my life growing up, the worst states were always the deep south (MISS, ALA, GA, SC, etc.). But only 2 of those makes the top 10 now – Miss – in 8th place, LA in 10th. Instead, the list now reflects the unchecked illegal alien states primarily (the Southwest ) with a strong showing for the Liberal NE (NY and RI).

    Indeed, while the South still has a strong showing in the bottom 25, Liberal states seem to have displaced them as the worst for education (those are also the ones with the strongest Education unions) – CA, NY, RI, NM, NV, IL, NJ, MA, CN, MD.

    The only constant in life is change. Or lack thereof. And unions hate change.

  34. E.M.Smith says:

    I can see it now… Hunter Killer Drones… Geofenced INTO the airport. Heavier and made with stronger materials. Cutting “piano wire” grill ;-) Smart enough to spot other flying drones and ram them. Would make an interesting project…

    Heard on the news Gatwick was still shut down. I’m very surprised. It isn’t hard to RDF signals and their military ought to be on top of that inside an hour of set up if they are slow. Furthermore, many police departments now have public frequency jammers to shut down detonator calls / signals. Maybe the airport is too big for their gear…

    Realistically, though, it’s not hard to blow the front end of a receiver. Where I the airport operator I’d just take my strongest radar, point it at the thing, and hit it with all I’ve got. A friend who designed military gear said they used to “smoke” Russian trawlers radars / radios that way… Probably some regulation against it and the airport guys are not allowed to get creative…

  35. Larry Ledwick says:

    Charles V Payne
    ‏Verified account
    3 minutes ago
    House approves $5.7 billion for Trump’s border wall sends spending bill back to Senate. It’s not news the House comes through time after time but last week all the DC & political mavens said this couldn’t be done.

    Okay Senate show us you are not shills for illegal immigration.

  36. Larry Ledwick says:

    Just throw this up here for future reference. Although I support the police very strongly the public perception that they have a very dangerous job is in itself dangerous, there are other common jobs which are much more dangerous.

  37. Larry Ledwick says:

    Ohhh this is going to leave a mark if it passes.

    Gab.com ☃️
    ‏Verified account
    4 minutes ago
    Gohmert Introduces Bill That Removes Liability Protections for Social Media Companies That Use Algorithms to Hide, Promote, or Filter User Content : U.S. Congressman Louie Gohmert

  38. E.M.Smith says:

    Go Louie! It’s about time…

  39. Larry Ledwick says:

    4 minutes ago
    These 8 House Republicans voted No on revised CR with border wall:

    Amash (MI)
    Buck (CO)
    Curbelo (FL)
    Hurd (TX)
    Paulsen (MN)
    Ros-Lehtinen (FL)
    Upton (MI)
    Valadao (CA)


  40. R. de Haan says:

    Joe Bstardi claimed that all the warming has taken place at the Poles where it doesn’t hurt because there is no melting ice at minis 40 or minus 30 degrees Celsius. At the same time we see consequent cooling of the landmasses below the polar circles. Just look at the temperature development of US cities at realclimatescience.com
    At the same time we know that the surface station data is tainted (research Anthony Watts et al).
    The consequence of this is that the mentioned average temp increase in your posting is smaller than the error margin in the surface station record of plus minus one degree.
    If we consider that climate always has been the subject of geologists and take into account that we have come from times where the sea level was 200 meter higher than today and crocodiles were breeding in the artic, we can claim that we are currently in an ice age, not a thermogeddon.
    Additionally I would like to make the point that the raise of the Himalaya plateau, the Alps and the Andes are responsible for the dangerously low C02 levels we have in our atmosphere today as rock weathering sucks massive amounts of C02 out of the sky.
    We also know that the introduction of “climate scientists”, the fraud and the propaganda makes christal clear that we are dealing with a political doctrine and that IMPO the time has come to stop bickering about two tenths of a degree warming or cooling but to address the political movement behind the climate change scam because even if we win the battle of who is right or wrong on climate science, these people won’t be stopped.
    I really think the entire focus on climate has become a smoke curtain that refrains us from addressing the real problems.

    I think that the most important pillars behind successful nations are freedom of speech, privacy, solid property rights, free enterprise/trade and the right to elect or send home your political leadership.
    All five pilars are under siege today and if we don’t stand up and protect them we will be screwed from here to eternity.
    Today from the USA to Europe all these pillars are under assault

  41. R. de Haan says:

    Trump has his Wall funding after he aired short video clips of Obama and Clinton stating that we need a good border wall/fence with Mexico to protect the American people. The clips were followed by Trump stating that Dems were terrible hypocrites.

    Obviously it took a few days for the Dems to let this message sink in and now Trump has what he wanted.

  42. R. de Haan says:

    What’s now in the news….
    The investigation of the Clinton Foundation, Loretta Linch, Comey’s boss and all the other corrupt elements that will be hanged out to dry if there is still justice in the USA

  43. E.M.Smith says:

    @R. de Haan:

    BINGO! that “climate science” is just a fraudulent whore to politicians is largely why I’m not very active flogging that necrophiliac’s horse. What’s the point?

    When you have a whole generation who lived through the “New Ice Age!!!” ’60s-early’70s and then folks like Serioso have the gaul to claim there was no decade to decade cooling then, only warming; it becomes quite apparent it is just a game of Propaganda writ large and actual facts need not apply.

    The existence of the very cold spell (dropping from the very hot ’30s into the cold early ’70s – attested to me personally by my Father when asked in the ’70s and by other elders in my home town as I was curious about the New Ice Age!!! hype…) can NOT be denied. Yet idiots claim it didn’t exist and that, by extension, The Great Pacific Climate Shift of about ’76-’77 didn’t exist either. That was when ALL the “warming” happened, more or less in a step function, as ocean currents “reorganized”. All the rage to talk about in the ’80s…

    One tires of tilting at phony windmills and pointing out blatant absurdities and ignored recorded history.

  44. E.M.Smith says:

    Per the prosecution of the Clinton Cartel: I’ll believe it when I see them in Orange checking in to the Grey Bar Hotel. Until then, it is just rumor and show trial talk.

  45. R. de Haan says:

    Right, we share the same opinion. What are we going to do about it? Sponsor Yellow Vests? How do we stop the political onslaught on our freedoms, our privacy, property rights, prosperity….
    Trump has put a bomb under the globalist concept but it won’t be enough tp stop the sociopaths.
    We have to destroy them.

  46. R. de Haan says:

    It’s them or us.

  47. Another Ian says:

    “The Climate Sciences Use Of The Urban Heat Island Effect Is Pathetic And Misleading”


  48. Pouncer says:

    ” you have a whole generation who lived through the ‘New Ice Age!’

    Yet but we won’t have it long. The generations who have lived under constant tales of “Warming” will out-live and out-vote us. This is partly why I insisting on pointing out the mainstream has ABANDONED the specific fear of “Warming” — at least in headlines — for the nebulous term “Change”. Even Metathesiophobics no longer lead the discussion with specific claims of warmth.

    For sure both the older and younger groups can agree we’ve lived thru “change”. Smog, cooling, nuclear winter, acid raid, ozone depletion, Kuwati oil-field fire/smoke plumes, Icelandic volcano smoke plumes — about every two years, (off years, between Congressional elections, I suppose) the headline changes but the fears remain the same. Industry is bad, civilization is bad, humans are bad, so we must exterminate most of our brothers in order to save the entire rest of the ecosystem (and a few enlightened human souls like, er, “me”) from the current example of badness.

    “So”, Socrates might ask, “Given that China and India are rapidly modernizing, expanding their population, raising their per capita standard of living and resource consumption, and building more coal fired electrical complexes — do you favor war, including nuclear war, to impose regime change and stop or reverse these trends? You are in favor of nuclear war if that’s what it takes to enforce an international climate treaty? “

  49. jim2 says:

    After all is said and done, maybe, just maybe, it WAS a mistake to let women vote. From the article:

    But, this past election, JoAnn Randall was smitten with Beto O’Rourke.

    “All you have to do is get in the presence of him and it’s contagious, especially if you’re a woman because he’s so danged good looking,” said Randall, who is 79 and has lived in the county for 25 years. “The charisma just emits.”

    When O’Rourke came to McCulloch County, population 7,957, and neighboring San Saba County, population 5,959, for well-attended town halls on April 6, Randall was his guide.


  50. Jon K says:

    Really good poem shared by Gail Combs over at CTH


    H/T Rudyard Kipling

    “It was not part of their blood,
    It came to them very late,
    With long arrears to make good,
    When the Patriots began to hate.

    They were not easily moved,
    They were icy — willing to wait
    Till every count should be proved,
    Ere the Patriots began to hate.

    Their voices were even and low.
    Their eyes were level and straight.
    There was neither sign nor show
    When the Patriots began to hate.

    It was not preached to the crowd.
    It was not taught by the state.
    No man spoke it aloud
    When the Patriots began to hate.

    It was not suddently bred.
    It will not swiftly abate.
    Through the chilled years ahead,
    When Time shall count from the date
    That the Patriots began to hate.”

  51. Another Ian says:

    From WUWT this morning

    “Germany’s green transition has hit a brick wall”


    ““The Nobel Prize for Climate Catastrophe”… Seriously?”


  52. E.M.Smith says:

    The Nobel Committee has already had their “Jump The Shark” moment when they gave Obomba the Peace Prize when he had accomplished nothing having just been elected.

    A famous person or prestigious group can expend their Reputation by promoting the deeds and acts of others who are not up to snuff. “Stars” do this when the start selling tennis shoes or pushing soap in commercials. As the “product” takes on some of their “prestige”, they are reduced in turn. In the end, they are seen as hucksters and fraudsters. (That was taught to me in MBA Marketing class… not just something I’m making up. It is a standard part of “celebrity advertising” doctrine and process.)

    So at this point, for me and for a great many others, the Nobel Prize, rather like an Academy Award, just says “Endorsed by Rabid Left Wing Ideologues – avoid!”. For years I’ve used the Academy Awards as a great guide to what not to watch (and those panned by the “critics” as something to put on my “see list”. Similarly, I now use Nobel Prize to indicate “This is a person who has done Politicized Science. Suspect anything they have written and everyone who endorses them or cites them.”

    So sure, go ahead and make a Nobel Prize for Climate Crap. It will be a great flag for where the shit is buried…

  53. Larry Ledwick says:

    Holy crap it looks like we pulled it off!


    21 minutes ago
    Vice President Mike Pence has cast a tie-breaking vote in the Senate to advance legislation to prevent a partial government shutdown and provide funding for President Donald Trump’s border wall – KNSD

  54. Larry Ledwick says:

    Garrett Haake
    ‏Verified account
    9 minutes ago
    Senators being told to head home for the night, and that they won’t be called back unless there’s an honest-to-goodness deal… and with 24 hour notice.

    That means a partial government shutdown tonight.

  55. E.M.Smith says:

    But if the house passed it and the Senate passed it and the Prez will sign, what’s left?

  56. Another Ian says:

    Jon K

    I’ve found over years that there is quite a bit of wisdom available via Shakespeare, Kipling and Churchill

  57. Larry Ledwick says:

    I think the issue is reconciliation the Senate and House passed different versions now they have to be reconciled to a single version both can vote for. News coverage is kind of fragmentary and lots of chatter about different strategies, some say they can use nuclear option some say they can’t, I am not sure anyone knows for sure what is actually going on except the dems got their bluff called and don’t want to get this problem hung around their neck.

    Apparently the congress was very impressed that gofundme accounts have raised so much money so fast for a privately funded wall. Perhaps the solution will be to allow some sort of privately funded bonds to pay for all or part of the wall, but this is hard for congress critters to ignore.

  58. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    An old one but…

    Him: Tell me, dear, what do you think of Kipling?
    Sweet Young Thing, after a moment of thinking:
    “I don’t know, I’ve never kipled!”

    But yes… I have found much of value in reading Churchill, Kipling (Thanks Mum!), and Shakespeare (so I now have a tendency to spell oddly, often in very archaic styles… And I LIKE that!).

    FWIW, the writings of Marcus Aurelius are particularly enriching. Odd feeling that, listening to a long dead Roman Emperor. He’s quite rational.


    As I understand it, the “committee” that does the reconciliation can do whatever the hell it wants. Even inserting things not in either bill to begin with, and nobody votes on it if the “committee” says it is agreed.

    It is one of the “Sausage Making” parts of congress often ignored. Once it goes to “reconciliation” if the “committee” says they are done and agreed then ANYTHING can come out and is law.

    That’s why so much fighting to be in the majority and on committees happens, in part.

  59. Steve C says:

    Another take on the Yellow Vests here – “There is evidence the bankers initiated [the Yellow Vest revolt] as false opposition but may have lost control.” Certainly it is curious that the web domain was created (a) in the US, not France (b) last year as Macron was being installed, not this year as the protests got going. As usual, it seems all is not what it seems.

    And a merry Christmas and a happy New Year to one and all. Plans here include not too much of the Christmas “spirit”, but plenty of the Christmas ginger wine, as ever. (Don’t know how ginger wine would play in the California climate: in the UK winter, with or without the whisky to make a “Whisky Mac”, it contributes a very pleasant warm glow!)

  60. Larry Ledwick says:

    RNC issues statement blaming the Democrates for the shut down of the government because they refused to work with the President and the Republicans to come up with a workable solution.

  61. E.M.Smith says:

    As there is a Republican Majority in Congress right now, any shutdown is due to the RINO component…

  62. E.M.Smith says:

    @Steve C:

    I’ve never had Ginger Wine. I do have a lot of Ginger with Sushi about once / week and love it…

    I’ll have to look around and see if anyone has it.

    We do get cold in winter in California. Snow up in the mountains, the occasional frosts and freezes even here by the coast.

  63. Larry Ledwick says:

    As there is a Republican Majority in Congress right now, any shutdown is due to the RINO component…

    Yes his name is Jeff Flake R AZ.

    It is a bit more complicated than that, since the Independents currently all vote with the Dem caucus, the current senate is 49 D and 51 R for voting, so a single R who switches blocks a simple majority and any 60 vote process is absolutely blocked by the slim majority no matter if all the Republicans vote party line or not. That limits some procedures, and gives lots of power and influence to any RINO Republican who wants to (or can be bribed into) breaking ranks.

    current congress
    Senate is 47 D, 2 Ind, 51 R
    House 197 D 236 R

    Next congress will be a bit better in the Senate but the R’s lose the house majority which will block party line votes on the house side, which is important given the House controls spending bills.
    Next congress
    Senate 45 D, 2 Ind, 53 R
    House 235 D, 0 Ind, 199 R

  64. Larry Ledwick says:

    Just a brief comment on light therapy and seasonal mood shifts.

    Here we are the day after winter solstice and I woke up naturally at just after 8:00 am this morning. This is usually when the doldrums of SAD start to bite hard for me, but my current bright light and blue light system has totally knocked that down. Recently I have tried to wake up at the same time (or near as I can) every day and I can feel that slowly but surely all the hormone cycles are shifting back into sync.

    I now wake up rested in the morning and don’t feel groggy almost all day long, nor do I want to stay up and do stuff at 2:00 am, but start to get naturally sleepy around midnight.

    Since I work a swing shift an 8:00 am wake up time is just about ideal for my current work cycle, it gives me about 4 hours of morning time before I have to leave for work at shortly after noon.

    I am still tweaking the actual location of the individual lights and minor shifts like that but for practical purposes have a workable solution in place.

  65. Larry Ledwick says:

    This is pocket change to someone of his wealth but still interesting development.


  66. Larry Ledwick says:

    Great story about fabricated news articles. I first learned how bogus published magazine articles were when I started hearing about how car magazines “spice up” some hot rod articles and quite simply make crap up, over the years since I have come to the conclusion that just about every major publication produces fiction rather than documentary or legitimate analysis articles.

    But this is a funny take down of one such article.

    View at Medium.com

  67. Larry Ledwick says:

    A little bit on guns and crime.

    Tom Gresham
    5 hours ago
    What media didn’t tell you about CDC data. Accidental firearm deaths are DOWN 41% since 1999. @NSSF


  68. Larry Ledwick says:

    Brazil is taking a hard line on gang violence – will start shooting those with weapons on sight.


  69. Larry Ledwick says:

    Just breaking 20 dead and 165 injured by tsunami believed to have been triggered by an erruption of the Krakatoa volcano.

    Just breaking on twitter digging for more info now.

  70. Larry Ledwick says:


    Government officials say that at least 20 people have been killed after a tsunami hit the coast around Indonesia’s Sunda Strait. The national disaster management agency says 165 people were hurt and dozens of buildings were damaged early on Sunday morning, according to the BBC.

    The agency added that on possible cause of the tsunami was undersea landslides after the Krakatoa volcano erupted. The Sunda Strait, between the islands of Java and Sumatra, connects the Java Sea to the Indian Ocean.

  71. Larry Ledwick says:


    With video clip of the tsunami wave coming in (probably 2nd wave in the set)

  72. Larry Ledwick says:

    Steam plume from Krakatoa

    Gary Κoble
    1 hour ago
    Quick retrieve of Himawari visible image from 3 hours ago shows the steam plume from Krakatoa well

  73. Larry Ledwick says:

    Indoor farming is about to achieve break even / profitable production in certain markets.


  74. Larry Ledwick says:

    Sane commentary on our current political and industrial climate. I think Tucker Carelson is right on the money with this, the digital kings do not realize that they are chanting “let them eat cake” as they play their digital power games.

  75. Larry Ledwick says:

    More from Tucker

  76. Larry Ledwick says:

    And ‘Tis the season for Christmas Festivities in France –

  77. E.M.Smith says:


    The big eye opener for me was when I started doing media interviews. About 20 years old… I pretty quicly caught on you are just raw material from which they construct “The Story”. That was the start of what is now my mantra “There is ALWAYS A Story. – E.M. Smith”

    The tsunamia is a disaster, but this was barely a hickup compared to when it goes big…

    TPTB in France and elsewhere, are always too cocky. Having guns and 2nd A. is a good brake on that, but remember that bottles of gasoline and a 4 x 6 or so timber took out USSR Tanks in their revolt. Brazil may be decending into chaos from both sides. Violent armed criminals and violent armed police doing the bidding of the powerful. If there is no peaceful armed middle class, the center does not hold.

    I think the Globalists are approaching that point where they have overstepped the tollerance of the people, but their hubris will not let them stop. Instead they accellerate… into revolt.

    They have already lost Russia, Poland, Hungary, the USA (at least while we have Trump), and are in the process of losing Austria, Italy, Greece, Turkey, parts of Ukraine, Slovakia, Czech Republic, and more. India is in play as they kicked out the Soros Machine.

    As awareness of their machinations rises, this will get ugly…

  78. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and per the Tech Companies… some of use are forming into an underground. You might have noticed that theme in some of my tech postings. I’m working on one about community “free” networks. People setting up WiFi for anyone nodes and meshing them together. Mix that with blocks on the Evil Corp Crap and you have your internet of freedom back… all that is neded is for Evil Corp to continue doing evil while people notice…

  79. Larry Ledwick says:

    The true nature of Islam from the beginning – a doctrine of violent conquest through war and massacre.

    This has been linked before but I thought it was due for a more current posting.

    The 1400 year history of Islamic military conquest via at least 548 major battles which destroyed classical Roman empire and the Byzantine empire resulting in the dark ages in Europe.

    Although he does not much address this, the final stage of this process was aided by the Mongol invasion of Europe in the late 1200’s and early 1300’s as the last of the 3 century long period of the 9 crusades occurred.

    44 min video by Dr Bill Warner

  80. E.M.Smith says:

    Better download a copy of that now… heard on NPR was a blurb that YouTube is going to purge some odd million-ish of videos with “offensive content”.

  81. Larry Ledwick says:

    You can find all his videos here:

    But it looks like the videos are you tube links.

    I have never downloaded a video although you are supposed to be able to do it with the VLC video player. Might have to play with that.

  82. Larry Ledwick says:

    Zero Hedge on stocks and what might happen monday.


    I sometimes wonder what Zero Hedge’s real agenda is, I know they often cry wolf but is it good faith effort to warn the market or are they part of the megaphone used to talk up or talk down the market?

    Are they really shills for some big players who already have prepared to milk a volatile day on the markets? – or – even actually force volatility and intentionally push it over a cliff?

  83. E.M.Smith says:

    Fear Sells. Zerohedge is a perma-bear. I’ve never seen them be positive about the markets… always pushing FUD – Fear Uncertainty & Doubt – no matter who is in office.

    I don’t visit them all that often, so maybe they were positive some time or other and I just missed it…

  84. beththeserf says:

    Happy Xmas to EM and denizens at this great ‘ check-it-out’ – blog …can’t git by w/out it. Thank you, also, R.de Haan fer yr video @ 19th Dec. @ 11.10 pm… Go straight to last 3 speakers, Labor Party
    Graham Stringer, worthy of respect fer quiet integrity, then yer charismatic, energetic, laughter -invoking Nigel Farage opposing govt from on high, afar, and yr Mogg-Rees, don’t be put off by the hyphenated name, a kinda Jimmy Stewart- David Niven toff in the tradition of yr great British classic liberal leaders, invoking free trade of goods and ideas, on the street and via the fizz of ports.

    A Xmas Carol, E.M./denizens, from a serf, appreciative of Magna Carta and three history changing, British Electoral Reform Bills of the 1900’s and Chiefio City Square.

    ” All I want fer Xmas is
    that Theresa May goes,
    Theresa May goes,
    Theresa May goes;
    All I want fer Xmas is
    that Theresa May goes,
    so we can wish Britain
    ‘Happy Brexit –

  85. beththeserf says:

    One line jump, still, an improvement on past performance. )

  86. Steve C says:

    Beth – This British serf thanks you for that wish! And may 2019 be a good year for us serfs everywhere, ‘gilet jaune’-ed or not. If you missed my recommendation above of a splash of green ginger wine for a warm glow on these cold winter evenings, let me mention it again and you can enhance the season a little. ;-)

    British Christmas starts about 20 minutes from now, with the broadcast (live) at 15:00 of the Festival of Nine Lessons and Carols from King’s College, Cambridge. Try and catch it if you can – it is the 100th year of the Festival, though always wonderful. Trivia fact: The chorister who opens the proceedings with his solo rendition of ‘Once in Royal David’s City’ is chosen by the choirmaster directly before the choir process into the chapel. He has about two minutes to readjust from ‘just a choirboy’ to singing solo in a performance broadcast to millions. No stress, then …

  87. cdquarles says:

    Zero Hedge …. very contrarian site. I have, on occasion, seen a positive article there. I don’t read it much now, though. Lots of chaff to weed through, so be mindful. Still, the blind squirrel does find the acorn, on occasion (by smell ;p ).

  88. jim2 says:

    Yep, robots are the way to go with Mars. From the article:

    Bill Anders, lunar module pilot of Apollo 8, the first human spaceflight to leave Earth’s orbit, said sending crews to Mars was “almost ridiculous”.


  89. Larry Ledwick says:

    Sending Christmas wishes to all here, for those of you in Europe, it is late afternoon so about time to start the Christmas Eve activities if you have such plans. Morning here in the middle of the US so will be a while before anything of interest happens here.

  90. Ossqss says:

    I hope this works ;-)

  91. H.R. says:

    I bought 2 safety yellow t-shirts. I wore one yesterday and am wearing the other today.

    No reactions to report. I was out and about at stores, a restaurant, and fishing in a park on the intercoastal waterway. Oh, Friday and Saturday I made trips to Walmart for some needed items. All of the Walmart employees on the clock who go outside the store must wear yellow vests. Then there were several customers wearing the yellow vest as their work requires it.

    Yellow vests and shirts are just too much a part of everyday wear in the US to work as a political statement.

    The only way that yellow vests are going to function as a symbol of protest here in the US is if a large number of people wear them at the same time.

  92. p.g.sharrow says:

    Here on the Left Coast Santa’s Elves are still planning the Christmas Day festivities.
    A Marry Christmas to all of our friends around the world.
    May the serfs of the World prevail over the dreams of the GEBs in the coming year…pg

  93. p.g.sharrow says:

    Merry Christmas ! he he some day I got to learn to spell ;-) …pg

  94. jim2 says:

    Merry Christmas All! Thanks to CIO for a great blog!

  95. Larry Ledwick says:

    The only way that yellow vests are going to function as a symbol of protest here in the US is if a large number of people wear them at the same time.

    Or if you add some sort of marker to indicate they are not just safety wear. Like a silk screened coiled Gadsden snake on the back, or perhaps MAGA.

  96. philjourdan says:

    @p.g. – I got several greetings today that had “Marry Christmas”. I thought it was a new meme that I just not had caught yet.

    Merry Christmas to you as well and to all!

  97. Another Ian says:


    “President Trump and Turkish President Recep Erdogan – This Should Be Interesting…”


    Merry Christmas

  98. E.M.Smith says:

    Thanks, all, for your well wishes!

    Per Yellow Vests:

    Mine is Orange, so that’s another bump… Maybe with an orange MAGA hat :-)

    It is interesting that Trump has basically told the regional powers to step up for their region, and they have.

    Then France and Macron spitting merlot about it is just sweet! If it is giving Macron Peptic spasm then the Globalists must be livid :-)

    Trump is just telling them they don’t get to spend our lives on our dime for their Regime Change agenda,

  99. jim2 says:

    Looking ahead to 2020, this could well turn out to be popcorn worthy.

    WASHINGTON — Forces loyal to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders are waging an increasingly public war against Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke, the new darling of Democratic activists, as the two men weigh whether to seek the party’s presidential nomination in 2020.

    The main line of attack against O’Rourke is that he isn’t progressive enough — that he’s been too close to Republicans in Congress, too close to corporate donors and not willing enough to use his star power to help fellow Democrats — and it is being pushed almost exclusively by Sanders supporters online and in print.


  100. E.M.Smith says:

    Learning to despise FireFox…

    I left the Odroid C1 running over night with monitoring windows open to the other systems. Just turned off the TV and went to bed. After Christmas morning, I’m ready for some computer time, so turn the TV/monitor back on. The systems LOOKS like it is “locked up”.

    Was it something about having the monitor off caused it to freeze?
    Was it something I did in the config?

    Then I notice that the blue LED activity light is blinking still…

    Closer inspection of the screen shows it DOES ever so often update a small spot…

    Then I figure out what evil has befallen my machine.

    I had left the browser open and one of my blog pages was up (the Installing Squid page). At the bottom was the Nag: “Privacy & cookies: yada yada” click here to accept. In the middle of the page was an apparently blank dialog box with the header “Warning: Unresponsive Script”. Looking at the monitor panel FOR the Odroid C1 I notice (despite it not updating in anything like normal time, more like once every few minutes) one core is shown pegged at 100%. In the process list is a LOT of FireFox processes all showing “D” disk waits. (and a few with S not disk wait but stopped).

    Then I noticed the memory. Of the 1 GB, on board, there’s 650 MB of in use. Now htop in a terminal window does not use memory. Even the 3 I have open are nothing. This is ALL from FireFox having some kind of memory leak. It’s got itself into a loop where it put up a “script” to nag me about accepting cookies (as this is the first time this browser has been to ‘my site’) and then when it didn’t get a response “in time” put up another “slow script” script, which didn’t get a response, so… rinse and repeat…

    Now I’ve got about 2/3 GB of that, the machine is in hard core “disk thrash”. And it is SOooooo slow to respond to anything that I can’t see the cursor and “clicking around the screen” by estimating probable location it will change to a new window about 5 minutes after I “click there”…

    So, OK, I’ve got a simple terminal window open in the lower left. Before starting this comment I did Down Left Down Left Down Left etc. until clearly in the bottom left corner, then Up Right ONCE to be in that panel and “Click”. Maybe in 10 minutes it will be the active window and I can type “halt” and let it clean up…

    Otherwise I have to powerfail this thing and I don’t like doing a powerfail on a thrash locked to disk machine. You are guaranteed disk disorder and fsck time…

    Moral Of Story: You MUST NOT trust leaving FireFox running on an idle computer for more than a couple of minutes. It can and eventually will lock up your machine with ever more swamped swap / memory management.

  101. E.M.Smith says:

    Some of the FF processes show 867 M virt memory so looks like some of the ‘inactive’ is buffers some of the processes are using / aware of. I’d guess locked in a memory management / process management dance. Sigh. It DID just try to activate the screen saver so it’s doing some “side work”. Still waiting for the swap to my active terminal window. The “return from starting screen saver” on mouse wiggle, that ought to be near instant, was about 30 seconds… so context swap / process swaps are binding. It still hasn’t repainted the FF window behind the “slow script” box… Sooooo… sloooooow…

  102. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes have seen that system lock up problem here on my windows system, one of the reasons I mostly browse in brave browser now and tend to shut down firefox windows when I get done with them. I presume they will eventually get nagged enough to solve that and fix the problem but until then I don’t use it much.

  103. E.M.Smith says:

    At Last! the “halt” I typed into one of the terminal windows “by brail” (i.e. guessing where the cursor was and typing blindly) “took” and the system halted. Now rebooting.

    So now I’ve got time stamps on these messages for about how long it took ;-)

  104. E.M.Smith says:


    Guess it is time to look for “Variety Browsers” on the Devuan / SBC (arm) family of processors.

    As noted in another thread, getting browsers ported and compiled on ARM processors is a, erm, “challenge”; so the pickings are thinner. Hopefully with ARM taking over the tablet space (and phones) and with the SBC moving out of “lab rat” space and into “viable desktop” that will change. So far it mostly looks like a choice of Chromium (yawn) or FireFox (Gak!) or “roll your own”… the reason I bothered to look at compiling FFox in the first place… I’ll resort to a cross compile from some other box if I must, but I’d rather not.

    I have Brave on the phone and like it, but don’t like browsing on the phone ;-) So they have an Android ARM port. Any idea if they have a Linux ARM port? ( I know, I could look it up myself… but if you happen to already know…)

  105. Larry Ledwick says:

    This looks promising but I have not done anything with Brave on linux


  106. E.M.Smith says:


    Thanks, I’ll take a look. The big issue will be “Do they have an ARM repository?”.

    @All Techies:

    Just an odd thing. I spent some time this evening (while spouse had things like the Adams Family TV Series (original) or Grinch Stole Christmas on the TV) occasionally monitoring the PiHole from the laptop. There’s two odd things:

    One channel that I remembered as having advertisements would have a “blip” where the show would stop, a loading bar would show up for about 1/2 second, then the show would resume replaying the last second or two like they do after commercials… but no commercial. About the same time the Roku would show up with a blocked log query on the PiHole. I need to verify this at some point, but it looks like some portion of commercials get blocked by the PiHole, maybe. (Many others on the Roku do come through as they are embedded in the source media stream). IF this is true, I’m really pleased.

    The other was I noticed a LOT of DHCP requests from the same MAC address, offered the same lease, and then no ack so it repeats. About 2 / second.

    Dec 25 21:43:49 dnsmasq-dhcp[1952]: DHCPOFFER(eth0) 0c:00:09:9b:95:02 
    Dec 25 21:43:50 dnsmasq-dhcp[1952]: DHCPDISCOVER(eth0) 0c:00:09:9b:95:02 
    Dec 25 21:43:50 dnsmasq-dhcp[1952]: DHCPOFFER(eth0) 0c:00:09:9b:95:02 
    Dec 25 21:43:50 dnsmasq-dhcp[1952]: DHCPDISCOVER(eth0) 0c:00:09:9b:95:02 
    Dec 25 21:43:50 dnsmasq-dhcp[1952]: DHCPOFFER(eth0) 0c:00:09:9b:95:02 

    I started shutting things off. It stayed. Eventually I was down to the TV, the Roku, my DHCP serving PiHole, the AT&T Router, and my laptop. IPv6 shut off on the PiHole and AT&T router.

    So I started looking with “arp” in the arp cache. Noticed the AT&T router had the same MAC address except the last digit was a 1. Hmmmm….

    Spouse has gone to bed now. TV / Roku are off. DHCP still cycling… I shut off the AT&T router.
    DHCPDISCOVER stops…. About 3 minutes later, I turn the router back on again. It does the POST (Power On Self Test) and line bring up and just when it starts routing again, the DHCPDISCOVER returns…

    So now I’m wondering why in heck the AT&T (telco) Boundary Router with DHCP shut off and a hard coded IP Address is doing a DHCP for some other MAC address…

    Just bizarre…

    It doesn’t seem to hurt anything. The load on the Pi is so small I don’t even notice it. It is just the log file where it will be collecting a lot of pointless entries.

    chiefio@headless1:/var/log$ ls -l pihole.log*
    -rw-r--r-- 1 pihole pihole  5572985 Dec 25 22:01 pihole.log
    -rw-r--r-- 1 pihole pihole 16807392 Dec 25 15:23 pihole.log.1
    -rw-r--r-- 1 pihole pihole   296255 Dec 24 16:00 pihole.log.2.gz
    -rw-r--r-- 1 pihole pihole   538087 Dec 23 16:00 pihole.log.3.gz
    -rw-r--r-- 1 pihole pihole   819336 Dec 22 16:00 pihole.log.4.gz
    -rw-r--r-- 1 pihole pihole   666678 Dec 21 16:00 pihole.log.5.gz

    so about 16 to 17 MB prior to compression, then it drops to about 1/2 Meg on average. (You can see where I took a restart mid-day today… trying to figure things out). So I can live with under 20 MB of log files cycling. But really? It’s just lame.

    Somehow it just reeks of AT&T having some internal process on a virtual interface that expects to ONLY accept a DHCP address from itself so is paranoid and refuses the provided address… but what on earth would it be for? And does AT&T never QA test their router with a sniffer on it and with an external DHCP server? Most professional shops will be running just that way.

    Oh well. I’ve at least answered the question of the mystery DHCP requests… even if I don’t like the answer.

  107. Larry Ledwick says:

    The beer drinkers and brewers here will find this an entertaining story of how Americans became Lager beer drinkers.


  108. philjourdan says:

    I have noticed that those pocket routers (what I call them) know how to reset their internal Subnet based upon the external IP they get (so as to not duplicate the outside subnet). I wonder if the AT&T router is just cataloging DHCP servers for a similar reason? So as not to allocate IPs that would be duplicated by the other DHCP server?

  109. E.M.Smith says:

    As good a theory as any I guess…

  110. Larry Ledwick says:

    We have talked about a cooling atmosphere increasing precipitation recently, well it looks like the the south eastern states will be wet in the near future.

    Ryan Maue

    Verified account

    44m44 minutes ago
    This is a lot of unneeded rainfall heading into the New Year across the Southeast US.

    Large area of 3″+ up to 6″ rain in North Georgia.

  111. Ossqss says:

    @EM, does your ATT service/router run static IP’s or dynamic?

  112. philjourdan says:

    @Larry – “near future”? This has been the 2nd or 3rd wettest year on record in these parts (depends upon the last couple of storms coming in Thursday and Sunday). I would say the future has caught up with us. :-)

  113. E.M.Smith says:


    I have it set up for static inside. I think the outbound broadband is dynamic, but don’t know for sure. In any case both have a number assigned and ought not be asking for another.

  114. philjourdan says:

    Did you turn off the DHCP server on the pocket router? That would be the one doing the calling. Just trying to verify that any IPs it may assign are not already assigned. It could be that it cannot be turned off, but you can limit the scope so it cannot give out any.

    The manufacturers are trying to make these things layer 8 proof for folks who have no clue what an IP address is. So it may be a feature to prevent them from assigning duplicate IPs from different sources and then calling tech support on why they cannot get connected.

  115. R. de Haan says:

    Anak Krakatoa will grow by blowing it’s top and flanks on a regular basis. It will continue to do so until the entire collapsed undersea crater of Krakatoa is filled up again allowing the volcano to take on the same shape and size as it’s predecessor. It will produce numerous tsunami’s for years to come and the only way for the coastal villages and cities is to move them to higher locations.

  116. R. de Haan says:

    worse than a Tsunami:

  117. Power Grab says:

    @ EM re “The “return from starting screen saver” on mouse wiggle, that ought to be near instant, was about 30 seconds… so context swap / process swaps are binding.”

    I have 2 desktop systems at work. One is still on Windows 95 (or XP). The newer machine is on Windows 10 and gets updated with the latest stupidware…whenever our IT folks finally allow it.

    I always lock the screens on both computers when I step away from my desk. The older PC immediately brings up the login window when I wiggle the mouse. The newer PC has a long lag bringing up the login window after I wiggle the mouse many times and press Ctrl-Alt-Del repeatedly.

    I mentioned it to our IT guy. We tweaked something. It still lags way behind the older PC. So my practice is to attempt to awake the newer PC and then switch to the old PC and wake it. I usually can get logged back into the older PC way before the newer PC is ready for my password.

    I have wondered if it isn’t due to the newest Windows Hello trying to use my face for logging in. Even though I have no camera and have never set that up. It seems similar to the boot-up default feature (you know: boot off the internal HD, the CD/DVD drive, something else). It’s like it’s programmed itself to always try to use the (nonexistent) camera first, then when that fails, enable the keyboard…

  118. philjourdan says:

    More moonbeam insanity:

    CA Electronic Waste Recycling Fee

  119. H.R. says:

    Wait ’til Moonbeam taxes blinking, phil.

    However, for every tax, there is an evasive action, so start expecting people to wink instead of blink.

  120. E.M.Smith says:

    The AT&T router does NO DHCP assignments. DHCP Server is OFF.

    The only DHCP assignments are from the PiHole. The PiHole assigns from a very specific and narrow range (50-70) while the range used ONLY IN THE PAST by the ATT router was 100-150 before I turned it OFF. There is NO CONFLICT in IP assignments.

    The only issue is that the AT&T router now does a DHCPDISCOVER packet, the PiHole does a DHCPOFFER, but then nothing happens so it repeats. ( I posted the dialog a few messages above).

    I think the best explanation is just that the AT&T router is issuing a DISCOVER to know what IP range not to offer (or it is just a bug in the router…)

  121. E.M.Smith says:

    @R. de Haan:

    There will not be any Debt Jubilee. Folks thinking there will be are having a fantasy.

    Debt is not something the debt holders just forget about…


    Yeah, we’ve had that fee for a few years now. Makes it worth while to buy any electronics when you are out of State…

  122. philjourdan says:

    Every year I buy a flat screen TV for the raffle out in Imperial Valley for the Fund Raiser. I get it through Amazon as it is kind of hard lugging a 40-60″ TV on an airplane :-) – and it is easy to have them deliver it.

    This is the first year they zapped me for it. Anyone want to bet the money goes into the General fund and never sees the stated purpose?

  123. Larry Ledwick says:

    @Powergrab Might be power saving features on the newer system either settings or hardware behavior you have no control over where it partially hibernates when the screen blanks to save power, and takes a moment to wake up and power up the video system.

  124. Larry Ledwick says:

    In other news, a John Hopkins study finds that California’s background check laws on gun purchases had no effect on gun deaths (ie are useless). Media totally ignores the reported results of the Johns Hopkins-UC Davis study.


  125. J Martin says:

    Chiefio, you did a post suggesting a wealth tax of I think a half percent would be a good idea, lots of googling later and I can’t find it. Anyone have a link for that ?

  126. E.M.Smith says:

    @J Martin:

    I think you want this one:

    I suggested 2%, but I could easily see 1% or even 1/2%. Actual best value would need tuning from my SWAG “Scientific Wild Ass Guess” ;-)

    There’s also an Off Topic discussion in comments of this one:

  127. Another Ian says:

    The solution to the construction of the wall

    “thedustmaker says:
    December 28, 2018 at 2:49 pm

    This might be a good place to break my news story…. (source: my wife read it as a meme on the internet)

    The Wall will be made from Russian collusion, since people cannot seen to get over it.”


  128. Larry Ledwick says:

    Not a big surprise, but makes you wonder when this chicken will come home to roost and if adjacent nations will act to seal off the country if it does explode into internal warfare. If open conflict starts they could see a flood of European migrants rushing into Sweden to reinforce the local gangs.


  129. cdquarles says:

    @Larry, what do you mean by “unneeded”, Kemosabe? This rain most certainly *is* needed. This is our rainy season and it fills the underground aquifers and other reservoirs for the coming summer and its following dry season. That we might get some flash flooding, well, we wouldn’t be overjoyed by that; but we are used to it.
    Where I live, we average a bit over 1 inch of rain **a week**. Dry season, it is about 3/4ths of an inch. Rainy season, it is up to 1.5 inches a week. Of course, there are weeks with none and weeks with it measured in feet, too ;p. Average water year rainfall is 4.5 feet, +/- 0.5 (std dev), so rare to see a year with less than 3ft of rain or more than 6ft, or one bang on 4.5 ;).
    Now if you were talking *snow*, yeah, that’s unneeded ;p, here.

  130. Larry Ledwick says:

    My local perspective is a bit different, normal water year precip in the Denver metro area is about 15 inches per year, in a dry year it can go as low as about 7-8 inches (per year)

    Fun little site on annual precipitation.


    http://www.globalwarmingdenver.com/plots/tot_precip_2018.png – – – – (year to date 2018)

  131. Larry Ledwick says:

    On conservative media seeing lots of comments about the sudden unexpected death of journalist Bre Payton. It struck me this morning that her death matches very closely with the reported medical consequences of the Spanish Flu in 1917-18, which had an unusually high death toll among young apprently healthy people in their early mid 20’s. Just wondering if we might be seeing a return of a very similar version of flu.

    It was also an H1N1 variant of the flu virus
    “Scientists now know this pandemic was caused by an H1N1 virus, which continued to circulate as a seasonal virus worldwide for the next 38 years.”



  132. E.M.Smith says:

    1918 + 38 = 1956 or the year I had a very horrific case of flu (fever up to 106 F and delirium that I still remember… which is why I’ve never been fond of most psychedelic effects…) so now I’m wondering if I had that variation…

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