U.K. Independence Day! Oh Boy!! – oh, wait…

It is here, at last, the United Kingdom Independence Day!
Break out the wine! Pour the ale!!

Welcome back to The Commonwealth and congratulations on that Free Trade Deal with the USA on offer. You’ve gained the world by leaving a den of thieves and liars who were sucking £Billions per year out of you.

You will be fighting off ambassadors from countries around the world looking for Free Trade for months to come. Congratulations!

All that in addition to being free of the overweening hubris and oppressive bureaucracy of the E.U. machinery.

Welcome back!

Oh Wait…

Instead it looks like the start of the Salami Technique has been completed and the slow walk back into the European Empire is well underway. We’ve already had the first slip of the date to no earlier than April 12. Anyone who thinks the T. May “deal” is a good one (basically signing up for E.U. Rule with no vote forever) can cheer at the prospect of that slipping further into May 22. Then there were votes by the House Of Commons to ask for an even longer delay and / or just say a big “Never Mind” to BREXIT entirely.

I expect we’ll see a steady progression from “Leave, just leave.” to “Leave later, maybe.” and eventually to “What BREXIT?” or “BINO – BREXIT In Name Only” (i.e. the T.May “deal”).

The Media are 4 Walling anything bad or even remotely uncomfortable that can be immgined to happen; while all the benefits on the horizon are hidden in a Project Fear Fog.

Parliament, being essentially Remainers, can’t bring themselves to implement “Leave”. T. May, being very much a Remainer, just wants a “deal” where the U.K. doesn’t actually leave any of the E.U. legal entanglements, stays in a “customs union” that will prevent any real ability to have open trade with the rest of the world (and any new “deal” would need to meet E.U. rules); oh, and lock the UK to the EU forever with no future exit possible.

One cannot trust the wolves to do what most benefits the sheep.

What Now?

Well, we’ve got a long series of “Don’t like anything but STAY!” votes behind us. I expect we’ll have more such votes in front of us, as The House Of Commons comes to grips with the simple fact that “Leave means Leave” and trying to “Leave + Stay” just doesn’t work. As they increasingly realize they can’t “Stay” while leaving, I expect to see ever more “Stay” content in the votes.

Will it end at “Revoke Article 50”? Probably not. The political fallout of pissing off 17 million voters will weigh heavily on their minds. Will it be BINO T.May’s “deal”? Possibly. T. May, having offered to leave #10 after having “farted in their general direction”; they may well decide to just “hold their noses” for a while and take the lock-in to the EU. There is the possible of them just deciding to “throw it to the people and duck” in a “Referendum Redux”, but can that be done by April 12?

Sky News is saying that the 3rd T.May “deal” vote (Friday, or is this the 4th “bite at the apple”?) is OK as it doesn’t include the “Political Statement”, while some MP was saying if it did NOT pass, then it’s ‘April 12 and out’ as the May 22 date evaporates. One can hope… So it will be a big day and a big vote, that likely won’t really do anything. The EU Leadership want their £Billions of “divorce bill” (£s Of Flesh?) and will find ways to “extend for a price”… IMHO.

The only real hope I see for BREXIT is that the PMs may just bicker among themselves until April 12 passes. Given that they were not able to do that for March 29th, I doubt they can resist the “dick with factor” and do it this time. 2nd best would be the EU Membership having just one country willing to “Pitch the UK out” by NOT voting for whatever deal is put forward.

What I don’t see happening is a bunch of Remoaners and Remainers voting to actually just leave the EU and get on with life as a free and independent nation. It can be very comfortable for politicians in a satrap. Having no actual power they can blame all the negative results on the Empire above them, all while collecting fat checks, nice kick-backs, and profits off their “investments” (in law changes they know about in advance). Prestige, wealth, fame – all with no actual responsibility. Who would vote to leave that?

So do The People of the U.K. care enough about their Nation and their vote to press the weasels into doing what the vote demanded? So far, we’ve not seen it. Project Fear is working hard to quash any positive feelings about BREXIT. The British penchant for just waiting patiently until it’s all a done deal, then complaining about it, is in full force. The Remoaners are constantly on the BBC (and every other media it seems) bashing the whole idea. Against all that, who will stand in the public square and call foul?

But at least we get a few more weeks (Or maybe months? Years?) of watching the U.K. Commons Farce as they sit on a barb wire fence and complain about the pain of getting off of it.

I suppose it is a decent Greek Tragedy / Comedy…
as I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

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39 Responses to U.K. Independence Day! Oh Boy!! – oh, wait…

  1. Peter_dtm says:


  2. oldbrew says:

    One problem for the EU is they don’t want ‘troublemaker’ Nigel Farage and his political mates back, and that’s what will happen if the UK doesn’t leave by the 22nd May.

    EU elections are on the 23rd May and Britain can’t be excluded if still an EU member.

  3. beththeserf says:

    Not a tragedy of the commons but a comedy of c. The nation, that once, in the Battle of Britain resisted fascism heroically now embracing same without a bullet fired. .

  4. Steven Fraser says:

    I pray for them every day, that the machinations of the devious will be confounded.

  5. A C Osborn says:

    There is an interesting fact that EM failed to mention.
    Leaving today is written in to UK LAW.
    The EU cannot change that law by a 2 week or 4 week extension of Article 50.
    The ECJ could force it to be changed or the “house” could rewrite it.
    But currently it stands.
    So the Brexiteers should mount a LEGAL challenge ie not through the fixed parliament but in the Courts.

  6. Graeme No.3 says:

    A C Osborn:
    Possibly why no-one (in the Remain loving Parliament) is mentioning it.

  7. Bill in Oz says:

    But given that none of the options being discussed in the Commons, can raise a majority, it seems probably that Brexit will happen without any deal at all on April 12 th. And this is well before any court would be able to handle the issue. So it all seems moot !

  8. Steve C says:

    A C Osborn – Agreed. I’ve heard/read a number of people saying the same, and I’d like to see any one of them challenge any pretence that we are “still in the EU” after 23:00 today. But then, I also agreed with Albert Burgess (IIR his name C), the fellow who argued at the time that Heath’s attempt to change the structure of British government (by subsuming it into the European glob without a prior referendum) was an act of high treason, and look how much difference that made.

  9. jim2 says:

    It would still be nice if you Brits had an “insurance policy.” The Queen needs to suspend Parliament for just a couple of weeks. That would be so awesome. She could come up with a list of more than one reason to do it. Can you guys petition the Crown?

  10. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like France is inching toward government collapse as Macron and the yellow vest protests drag on, and Brexit hangs over the EU, leads to the resignation of 3 of his ministers resign in one day.


  11. Steve C says:

    When I was young and immortal, I used with friends to experiment with various recreational chemicals, to space ourselves out and curdle reality a bit, so we could have a giggle at the madness and inanity going by.

    These days, I long for something which could space me back into a reality which made at least passable sense. Even just for a few hours. I’ve got the money.

  12. E.M.Smith says:


    Brexit: MPs reject May’s EU withdrawal agreement

    25 minutes ago

    MPs have rejected Theresa May’s EU withdrawal agreement on the day the UK was due to leave the EU.

    The government lost by 344 votes to 286, a margin of 58.

    It means the UK has missed an EU deadline to delay Brexit to 22 May and leave with a deal.

    Now, under both UK Law and the extension “Agreement”: Leave Means LEAVE! and it’s time to go, either now or on April 12.

    Yet the Remainers are not yet done ignoring law and the will of the people:

    Mrs May now has until 12 April to seek a longer extension to the negotiation process to avoid a no-deal Brexit on that date.

    So T.May will once again look to put the future of the UK into the hands of the EU…

    With a clear majority in the Commons against a no-deal Brexit, and with MPs holding more votes on alternative plans on Monday, Mrs May said that the UK would have to find “an alternative way forward”.

    How about the “Alternative” way of just leaving, eh?

    The prime minister said that the outcome was “a matter of profound regret”, adding that “I fear we are reaching the limits of this process in this House”.

    Downing Street said it was still not an “inevitability” that the UK would have to take part in elections to the European Parliament in May.

    A No 10 source indicated that the prime minister would continue to seek support in the Commons for her deal.

    “Clearly it was not the result we wanted. But, that said, we have had a number of senior Conservative colleagues who have felt able to vote with the government today. They have done so in higher numbers than previously,” the source said.

    “Clearly there is more work to do. We are at least going in the right direction.”

    So still she clings to her dream…

    And the EU prepares for one more slice of salami…

    Responding to the vote, European Council President Donald Tusk tweeted: “In view of the rejection of the Withdrawal Agreement by the House of Commons, I have decided to call a European Council on 10 April.”

    Any bets that a “long slow BREXIT” will be on offer? One more step toward NOT leaving? So after a year or two more of sitting on the barbed wire fence a “new” Referendum can be run, crafted so that “remain” is the more juicy choice?

    Maybe after a total fo 4 year of propaganda in the schools a new crop of voters can be grown?

  13. YMMV says:

    Europe is going to the dogs, UK is going to the dogs. Getting worse. What about the US?

    “I hear these things about ‘let’s make America great again’ and I think to myself, exactly ‘when did you think America was great’?”
    — Former Attorney General Eric Holder on MSNBC’s “The Beat with Ari Melber”

    Well, that is a good question. When was peak greatness? Everybody will have a different answer according to their own situation. I’m voting for late fifties early sixties in the US. Post-war prosperity (relative) and optimism. The future was bright. It didn’t work out, but hey. And it certainly was not perfect (not the greatest possible world). Any other opinions?

    Giambattista Vico had a scheme of history, the rise and fall of civilizations. “Bestial”, progresses to “Age of Religion and the Gods”, to the “Age of Heroes” ruled by custom, to the “Age of the Peoples” ruled by laws. “The last stage results in anarchy, and the return to relive the cycle”.


    Marx’s foot soldiers have been destroying the very basis for society that western civilisation was built on in order to set up their system, which is completely out of line with the customs and norms that built western civilization to the heights it reached. Rules were created to encourage behavior that, through thousands of years of experience, Europeans knew created a healthy society. To borrow from Vico, the drive for equity above all else in democracies has chipped away at those rules, creating the chaos that we have now.

    Everybody gets a veto!

    So everybody grew up believing that progress was endless. Now we find out that progress is a trap. We’ve painted ourselves into a corner. There is no way out, not even ‘socialism’.
    (book: “Sapiens: a brief history of humankind”, by Noah Harari)

  14. E.M.Smith says:


    Now is not so bad in the USA. We are fighting a rear guard to prevent decay and corruption, but mostly is is just stagnation from sbout 2000.

    I think the future of places like California and Illinois is colored “Detroit Decay”, but it isn’t here yet. Trump gives me hope we have dodged the bullet long enough for the EU to go there first, and illustrate why it is A Very Bad Idea. We in the USA will lose a State or two (much like Detroit, Seattle, New York, and San Francisco as cities have shown the damage.)

    I’m not very worried as I’m headed to a survivable place with skills….

    South America, Africa, Asia, and a good chunk of Europe will be down the tubes before it is a disaster here. Australia has enough land, and few enough people, that as long as some sea borne invasion doesn’t over run them, they can recover from Progressive Insanity.

    Just need to keep the Globalist UN Agenda folks off balance about another decade and some libertarian survivors can rebuild civilization. I’m working on my part.

  15. Larry Ledwick says:

    Unfortunately history and civilization progress is mostly a saw tooth wave form.

    102 steps forward, 99 steps back – rinse and repeat.

    Each great civilization moves the ball just a yard or so down field net, before social decay, rare events, climate, and earth forces, knock the wheels off the apple cart then we start over with just a slightly better starting point than the last time and enough knowledge and historical carry over that we know what is possible but it takes a few centuries to get back to a wide spread stable civilization before some clueless academic tries to do the same old dumb crap a slightly different way and discovers it is still crap.

  16. beththeserf says:

    ‘You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately… Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!’
    Oliver Cromwell. Address to the Rump Parliament (20 April 1653)

  17. Bill in Oz says:

    E M we’ve stopped the sea borne invasions of boat people twice now..Turnbacks & sending them to Nauru or Manus Island worked a treat..
    Mind you it could all come unstuck if the looney left in the Labor party & the Greens get their ways again if Labor is elected at the next election.

    But we will see.

  18. cdquarles says:

    I must say that despite the “Civil” rights troubles, the 1950s were likely our high point, topping the 1920s. Then we had the 60s/70s madness, followed by the 1980s. Then the 1990s rolled in, with some more madness that extended to Trump’s time. God help us if the Left, again, gets its way.

  19. Another Ian says:

    E.M. Check your email

  20. Another Ian says:

    Re beththeserf says:
    30 March 2019 at 10:52 am

    Beth That was repeated by L.S. Amery in the House of Commons to Neville Chamberlain in 1940

  21. beththeserf says:

    Ian, it is a statement quite readily applicable to other parliaments. )

  22. A C Osborn says:

    The Brexiteers are mounting a legal challenge to the Government stating that the UK HAS left the Eu as the prolonging of Article was Illegal and not ratified by UK Law as the original Article 50 end date was.

  23. Another Ian says:


    Precedent set – might be time for a repeat

  24. Another Ian says:

    Interesting! Seems it might already have happened.


  25. beththeserf says:

    Ian, re @ Jo Nova, beowulf on Brexit. Article 50… my response:
    This should ensure Brexit but with enough of the people on side, 48% voting ‘remain’ and a compliant medja,* the globalist elite have become emboldened to bypass the referendum result, viz the PM and Parliament, and now feel strong enough to subvert the democratic process. I fear that Democracy may be at an end.

    * Google Brexit and all you get are ‘The Conversation’ and ‘The Guardian’ coming up with alarm messages on ‘dire’ consequences of leaving the EU.

  26. Another Ian says:

    E.M. Reference to email via Jo Nova

  27. tom0mason says:

    As ‘reported’ on the mischievous Guido Fawkes blog —

    The latest manufacturing PMI figures are out and it’s more grim reading for Merkel and Macron with the Eurozone’s index falling to 47.5 in March – firmly in contraction territory and the lowest level since April 2013. Germany is rapidly becoming the sick man of Europe, its reading of 44.1 is the worst since the crisis days of 2012…

    Meanwhile the UK’s own manufacturing index has surged to a 14-month high of 55.1, coming in far ahead of the forecast of 51.2. The UK could even consider giving the EU a trade deal, if they ask nicely…

  28. Bill in Oz says:

    What with the Commons having rejected all the ‘indicative options”, I tend towards the Queen’s solution…
    “Yes 007, the bloody lot ”


    Now, in the meantime, with all options rejected, Brexit has happened already or what ?

  29. Bill in Oz says:

    This is a cut and paste of a comment in a Brexit thread on another blog:

    “Oxford University researchers have discovered the densest element yet known to science.
    The new element, Governmentium (symbol=Gv), has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.
    These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called pillocks.
    Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact.
    A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that would normally take less than a second, to take from 4 days to 4 years to complete.
    Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2 to 6 years.
    It does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganisation in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.
    In fact, Governmentium’s mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganisation will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.
    This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical concentration.
    This hypothetical quantity is referred to as a critical morass.
    When catalysed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium (symbol=Ad), an element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium, since it has half as many pillocks but twice as many morons. “

  30. ossqss says:

    Watching an interesting show called “Europe in Chaos” on the Smithsonian channel. Quite good/enlightening on the details of Brexit.

  31. A C Osborn says:

    Bill in Oz says: 1 April 2019 at 9:56 pm
    Governmentium, love it.
    However it can vary in numbers of Neutrons & Morons depending on the Continuum (country) it is created in.
    You can also get “Superstaterium” as well where lots of Governmentium bands together and becomes even more inert except at the very top of this pile of Governmentium.

  32. H.R. says:

    @A C – One of the problems with Superstaterium is that the positions of the Morons cannot be predicted; only the probability of their true position can be stated.

  33. Bill in Oz says:

    I wonder if anyone has done any research on the process of spontaneous ‘trumpist’ fission every 3,4 or 5 years, when electonium inadvertently is injected into the governmentium morass.

  34. Bill in Oz says:

    Back to Brexit : I was just listening to the Australian ABC news.It had a report about the Brexit morass. And then broadcast the words of a woman member of the May cabinet..She said in effect that the May deal was the best plan available because it dealt with the Brexit vote in the referendum while also compromising with the people in the UK who want to remain in the EU….

    Now that is the most dopey comment I’ve heard from a Minister of the BritishCrown in decades.

    The referendum said The British People want out. Not we want a ‘ compromise”.

    How do such idiots get elected, never mind in the cabinet ?

  35. cdquarles says:

    Easy. Too many trust the “media”, and too many don’t know how to think; but have the voting franchise. 50%+1 is enough, of those casting ballots. Since most of these people live in cities, they are ‘tame’.

  36. E.M.Smith says:

    So T.May now wants a cosortium with J. Corbin who demands at most 1/2 a BREXIT AND she wants another extention to not leave?

    What fresh hell is this? What could she possibly be thinking?

    Just leave and be done with this farce.

  37. beththeserf says:

    How dumb to put someone in charge who was a remainer and member of the coterie.
    Time to do the yellow jaune protest for democracy. Honour the vote.

  38. Another Ian says:

    ” Delingpole: May Wins!”


    The rest of the title

    “(Worst Prime Minister Ever Title)”

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