BUT just blanch them for a few minutes, don’t over cook them as that destroys the value.
This is a very long, 2 1/2 hour, technical interview video. The bottom line of it is that you ought to eat more of the Cole family plants, and especially those with “bite” to them (i.e. that taste bad to some folks).
Also the exact biochemicals involved and where there are the most of them (sprouted broccoli seeds).
So eat your radishes, wasabi, horseradish (and for me, those horseradish leaves with their ‘bite’), broccoli, kale, cauliflower, mustard and mustard greens, cress, turnips, cabbages and yes, Brussels Sprouts, and so on down the line.
These activate the NrF2 pathway that increases disease resistance, cancer protection, and reduces inflammation. Basically, all over the place good things.
The description reads:
FoundMyFitness
Published on Jan 6, 2017
Dr. Jed W. Fahey is a nutritional biochemist with broad training and extensive background in plant physiology, human nutrition, phytochemistry and nutritional biochemistry. He is the director of the Cullman Chemoprotection Center at Johns Hopkins.The reason I’ve asked him to join us today, in particular, however, is because he has been researching isothiocyanates like sulforaphane for over 20 years and is an exceptional expert in this arena.
Dr. Fahey and his colleagues have been, in a big way, at the absolute center of what is a staggering amount of research on these very powerful compounds.
There is hardly a topic which we can discuss in which he doesn’t have an anecdote about a study he was involved in, or, in some cases, tribal knowledge that may not even be published but is nonetheless interesting and an important part of the story that is unique to his particular vantage point.
▶︎ If you have not seen my previous, extremely in-depth video on sulforaphane, a very important isothiocyanate, please do so:
and I’m going to put that video in front of the 2.5 hour one so you can view them in order if desired. It is only 47 minutes:
Needless to say, I’m going to ramp up my use of my Horseradish patch, plant some more radishes (even if the spouse doesn’t like them…), cook Brussels Sprouts in the house (even if the spouse complains about the ‘aroma’) and plant more of my hybrid Kalards Franken-Cole (and maybe even select for a more ‘bite’-full version).
It looks like one of THE best single things you can do for a broad spectrum of the major things that ail folks (cancer, inflammation). As I really LIKE things with bite, like radishes and wasabi and horseradish and… AND as I like “sauerkraut and Polish” and other cabbage dishes: I’m happy to up my game in that regard.
Will I try “Broccoli Sprouts”? Maybe. With an 86% slowing of a doubling rate of prostate tumor, and given that 100% of men will get prostate cancer if they live long enough, “that matters” and I can likely put up with a broccoli sprout smoothy for that… (Yes, ladies, there were similar findings of effects on breast cancer and that it helped p53 gene to prevent cancer).
So go explore the Brassica / Cole section of your grocery store, or at least have some sushi and work on your wasabi tolerance ;-) Wimps in the group can work on their watercress finger sandwiches ;-)
Can’t hate these ;-)
Gee, bacon & cheese to improve eating interest…. what a novel idea /sarc; ;-)
I think you could add bacon and cheese to cardboard and folks would love it…
Since at the 4 minute of low steam point the “good stuff” starts to be degraded more than the anti-good stuff was being removed, I’m going to change my Brussels Sprouts cooking to be “quarter them, then steam gently for 3 to 4 minutes” and have them a bit less cooked…
Don’t know if the spouse would accept them even with bacon on top and soaked in Cheeze Whiz… I think she would pick out the Brussels Sprouts and eat the rest…
I found it interesting that mustard seed enhances the conversion of precursors to suforaphane. I need to look up the precursor / isothiocyanate content of sauerkraut, but being cold fermented I’d expect it to stay reasonably high. That, then, would imply that the classic of mustard on a kraut-dog is a winner! ( I love it on a Polish Sausage)
So that Polish / Kraut / Mustard Giant Dog at the Ball Park / Hockey Game is health food? Who knew…. ;-)
I can remember reading that as people did not like the bitter taste of broccoli and similar ‘greens’, they were being bred to reduce the sulforaphane content. So it may be necessary to find/grow older variants rather than the supermarket bins.
Don’t forget the sauerkraut ! In the depths of winter pickled cabbage is great value. The Russians eat it with horse radish sauce added and I have taken to adding horse radish sauce to the sauerkraut i eat..Nice bite to it !
By the way, in past reading/research I found that standard big headed broccoli and all sweet flavoured radishes had been bred so much that they no longer had any bite at all and were very low in Sulforaphane. I tend to grow the wilder ( less domesticated ? Less hybrised ? ) brassicas like Kale and the small Italian broccollini types. I also spent some time looking for radishes varieties with a hot bite like my dad grew back in the 1950-60’s. But they no longer exist here in Oz and getting them from overseas raises quarantine issues. :-(
@Bill in Oz:
Look for Black Spanish radishes in winter… they are very hot…..
Also, check local seed companues, someone will have heirloom radishes…
As a quick search:
https://www.succeedheirlooms.com.au/heirloom-vegetable-seed/heirloom-radish-seeds
Note that growing in warmer weather gives hotter radishes…
For years I’ve eaten broccoli almost every night. I usually buy frozen. With a roast or casserole find the flavour goes well, caulliflour also, grate cheese over it while draining in saucepan, luvely with salmon mornay, yum. Glass of wine, )
Hi EM Thanks for that comment. I thought I knew all the mail order seed companies here. But no, I’ve never heard of Succeed Heirloom Seeds. I’ll check it out.
I try out the Spanish Black Radish. I’ve tried in the past inAutumn and it just did not biggen up as it should. I suspect that it needs sowing here in February/March to give it time to grow before Winter sets in.
Re red radishes.. A few years ago I was in Argentina ( dancing tango )and the nearby weekly farmers market had a stall with bunches of hot radishes. That was in August ..In the Southern hemisphere Winter.. So there are varieties which are grown for their bite even in Autumn/Winter..( I tried to bring some seed back but failed ) Red radishes grown here in Spring normally just bolt and set seed. But maybe this is worth talking to some seed companies about getting seed imported through quarantine.
@Bill in Oz I used to grow radishes here just south of Brisbane before my keto/carnivore conversion. I used them to mark rows of seeds because they germinate at almost 100% and shoot rapidly, making perfect ‘marker’ plants. That also gave me an incentive to thin the rows because they weren’t the prime crop. . These young tender radishes are MUCH hotter than the old, woody ones which you could almost turn on a lathe.
I am reminded of my youth, hiking through a field in Shropshire and wondering what the crop was. I pulled a single stalk from a plant and bit into the root. It was horseradish. I think my sinuses have just stopped smarting after 50 odd years.
You are, of course, welcome to eat whatever you wish, but I think that it is likely that ‘bite’ is nature’s way of telling you these things cause inflammation and should be avoided. See you in heaven and we can compare notes on who’s right. Let’s hope it’s a long time coming.
Andy when I was managing the farm some years ago I was persuaded to grow horse radish for a friend of the family. I got no instructions for it though. I was not told it is impossible to kill and that it grows back after harvest every year. And that it spreads like a weed unless dug each year….(Maybe ground freeze sets it back in the USA ? )
Another thing I was not told was to wear a proper face mask when processing the roots. I put the roots through a blender to make the sauce. And took the lid off for quick look and smell. It rocked my sinuses like exploding dynamite…. Took about an hour to recover !
Ohhh well..Good info for folks here..
I agree about the radishes..Woody ones are just tough fibre. The best I’ve ever eaten were straight from the garden : crisp and bitey !
By the way Giant Japanese red Mustard will self seed itself if allowed. it wants to grow ! I do not ever sow seed a second time. i just let some of the ones from the first sowing go to seed. good asian stir fry tucker or in my lamb stews..
( Made a huge pot of lamb stew on Sunday here. Just finished off the last bowl tonight for dinner. ! )
Also of note:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphanin
@Andysaurus:
It looks like the “hot” stuff in radishes is in fact that isothiocyanate reaction with myrosinase. So yes, the “bite” is what you are looking for… sulforaphane is just one of the family of resultant compounds that are suspected of doing good things. Like kill off damaging bacteria and viruses, stimulate immune response and kill cancer cells.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/no-matter-what-you-think-radishes-arent-actually-spicy-1708502131
Heh. I love eating all of these. The good old see food and eat it diet. I also like hot peppers. The hotter the better (up to a point), and the more you eat of them, the more you can.
ERUCIC ACID
It’s in many brassicas, and is highly toxic.
Small amounts of those veggies may be good because of the beneficial stuff in them, but if eaten frequently might be problematic.
http://tinyurl.com/yxujhpty
“…target organ is the heart…”
https://efsa.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.2903/j.efsa.2016.4593
Just thought some would like to hear the other side. (There’s almost always another side.)
FULL DISCLOSURE – If it didn’t make me sick, I wouldn’t be worried about it, but it does. It started slowly and built up over time, until it was short term debilitating after even a small amount.
I am, however, totally on board with a keto diet.
Rape seed, Canola ( which is Canadian Rape seed ) & mustard all have plenty of Euric acid in them
That’s why I decline to eat canola or mustard oils
But in brassica vegetables like kale, cabbage, brussels sprouts, collard thousands of years of plant selection has reduce the Euric acid levels greatly…
And please do not forget that ‘old fashioned’ remedy mustard. Wonderful little seed punches well above its weight when it come to health benefits.
Mustard poultice for headache, muscle aches, etc.
@Yonason:
It was my understanding that the Erucic Acid was in the oil and that was in the seeds. Once sprouted and growing vegetatively, that it was essentially so dilute as to be irrelevant.
Are you saying you got damaging levels from eating the greens?
I agree with not eating large quantities of the seeds and oils.(though even there, the Canadians developed Canola as a genetic mutant with low levels of harmful fatty acids, allowing it to be used as a commercial food oil).
I guess what I’m asking is : How much of what were you eating to get a toxic dose?
I know, citing the Wiki as some kind of authority is fraught with wrongness, but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canola_oil
So 500 mg x 120 = 60,000 mg or 60 grams of Erucic acid when it becomes toxic. Then a max of 2% in the oil so x 50 = 3000 or 3 kg of Canola Oil per day. That’s about a gallon… ( though only 20 x 60 = 1200 or 1.2 kg in Europe, or about 2 L / day.)
It seems to me that would be hard to achieve;…
I could see “getting there” with Rape Seed as it has a much higher level, but it isn’t allowed in food production, only the modified form is allowed. I could also see some individuals having inability to metabolize it in the liver and being especially sensitive to build up (as every person is unique).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canola_oil
So the actual production product is now down to 0.1 to 0.01% and not anywhere near the 2% level. So multiply that gallon by 20 …
OK, all that said: I’d not go out and start having a big bowl of Rape Seed for breakfast (the form not selected for low toxic fatty acid levels)… but I’m also not seeing where it is in production much anymore.
But what about broccoli?
https://www.foundmyfitness.com/news/s/fxoggy/dietary_intake_of_sulforaphane-rich_broccoli_sprout_has_prophylactic_effects_on_inflammation-related_depressive_symptoms_in_mice
So it looks like you ought not eat the ground up seeds, but it would take over a kg of sprouts / week to reach whatever “exposure limit” they set using those numbers:
12100/320 = 37.8125 times more sprouts needed than seeds. x 35 g limit = 1323 grams or about 1 1/3 kg of sprouts per week. Now that’s only 190 grams / day, so I suppose someone could eat a pint of sprouts / day… Sprouts are pretty light weight though, and it would likely take a larger bulk than that to get to 190 grams. Still, “enthusiasts” ought to weight their dose of sprouts…
So it is inside the realm of possible to OD on the seeds and for folks very ambitious with the sprouts to OD on the sprouts; but you would have to work at it for anything green…