W.O.O.D. – 1 August 2019


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:

and remains open for threads running there (at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

So use “Tips” for “Oooh, look at the interesting ponder thing!”
and “W.O.O.D” for “Did you see what just happened?! What did you think about it?”

What’s Going On?


Boris is making nice nice noises, but also willing to just walk away. This is causing all manner of natter about him just really wanting to run out the clock and default “no deal” out. We’ve got 2 months to the (supposed) deadline to exit. Tick-Tock…


Just like all the other Soros Group “Movements”, once this one has failed to deliver or become a liability in the news, it suddenly vanished from news coverage. So they abused a gay Asian guy, discovered that the rest of us were not very fond of Abuse and Assault on Minorities, and earned themselves a couple of arrests. Then…. crickets….

So will they now “do nothing” until Soros rings up again? Are they just laying low? Is “The News” not covering as they were told to cover the Mueller Investigation Interview instead? Who knows… Like Black Lives Matter when folks start saying things like “ALL Lives Matter” and it looks like their impact is wearing thin, the news on them just ends.

Mueller? Mueller? Mueller?…

So this Icon Of Truth And Strength show up for the Democratic Witch Hunting Party and it turns out he’s a slightly confused old retired guy who mostly is wondering how come he’s not in his rocking chair today…

All of which leaves us wondering just which of Hillary’s Staff that he hired was actually running the “Investigation” (i.e. the “Get TRUMP!” squad).

Having thoroughly discredited the “investigation” by not knowing anything about it or even having read the report, Mueller exits stage left.. but not quite quickly enough.

Then, the Dimocrats who forced him to testify without first catching a clue how it was going to go down (believe your own BS much?…) proceed to have a Dog & Pony Show for the media claiming it gives them the basis for an Impeachment!!! Impeachment!!! investigation in the House. Just Oh My God Dumb.

The People have moved on. Trump is doing a good job and we know it. The Mueller Investigation is now seen as the “Doddering old guy lead around by Hillary’s Staff Hit Squad”.

The Democratic “leadership”? The TDS is strong in them… (Trump Derangement Syndrome).

Speaking of the Dims: Just to note in passing that they dumped the DNC upper managment because they were too white. Racist much? Anti-White is also racist (some of the Dim seem unable to grasp that point so I must point it out). Just how they think it will help them with the 3/4 majority who are white to be blatantly anti-white is beyond me. So one of THE big losing positions to take is to advocate for Racial Quotas, and here you are advocating for Racial Quotas… Meritocracy, it’s a very important thing that matters to anyone who believes in fair play and equal OPPORTUNITY.

The Stupid is strong in them, too.

Trump Triangulates

Yet Again!

This time on Baltimore.

Pointed out that after 50 years of 100% Democratic Rule it’s become a rat infested decaying mess. Democrats go BSC (Bat Shit Crazy) about it and start shouting “RACIST!!!!” as the poor Black folks there finally get someone asking why the $1.8 BILLION of Federal money dumped on Baltimore didn’t reach their neighborhoods.

Democrats: It’s YOUR town. You OWN IT. Go ahead and try to defend such abject failure to deliver a better life.

Ignite SJW Emotional Bomb – toss into middle of DNC / Candidate Race. Collect reward…

Speaking Of The Democrat Primary Race

We’ve had a couple of “debates” now and the candidates have had to fight each other to find a place at the far left edge of the stage (while not falling off into Crazy Land… oh, too late…)

They think they can win by promising to throw open the borders to unlimited immigration for everyone (so kiss off the idea of any “good paying job” with 1 Billion Chinese, 1 Billion Indians, and 1 Billion or so folks from Mexico on south all available for pennies a day – note that contractors need not be paid minimum wage as they are not wage rate paid…)

Then, to sweeten the pot, they want to give Free Health Care to anyone and everyone who steps over the border. How about giving ME free health care first, eh? What’s that? I’m a White Guy and Citizen so too bad?

On what planet do they think that’s a winning strategy? In very short order every single person with a significant chronic medical condition would book a “vacation” in the USA, and not leave, with those bothersome medical conditions now paid for by the TAXES on CITIZENS.

There’s more lunacy, but that’s enough right there…

Barr & Such

Last night I heard that Comey had been referred for prosecution but that the AG had declined at this time. Biding his time? Fishing for a bigger take down than “classified documents at home”? Letting Comey off the hook? Who knows, but watch this space. Maybe, at long last, some “Equal Justice” will be offered.

Iran & UK Ship

Looks like the UK and Iran have settled into an impasse. The entirely non-UK crew (mostly from lower cost places like south Asia) on the Swedish owned vessel were probably a disappointment to the Iranians. After all, the tanker owners will have insurance and they are not UK either.

I’d wondered why the UK had not put more ships on escort duty when they had captured the Iranian tanker near Gibraltar. Now it makes more sense. That ship is a British Ship in flag only. Flags are cheap… escort vessels are not.

Grand Solar Minimum & Prep

I’ve done some articles on food preservation and on minimalist “prep” inventory choices. It’s been a cool July, and now this first day of August has me “enjoying” cold mornings.

Overall, I’ve found that even basic, simple hydroponics yields a LOT more food quicker than dirt gardens. Partly that may be my particular dirt and limited water, but “whatever”. With a few hydroponic tubs I’m able to make lettuce, peas, and various cole crops happen in just a few weeks. With some fairly cheap LED bulbs I can do that year round without regard to the weather. I’m sold.

I’ve been trying meals from the Prepper Pantry and it’s been rather nice. Not at all a hardship. I think partly that is from my tendency to buy things I already eat; just with an emphasis on things that keep well and don’t cost much.

I have found that coconut oil (with a bit of salt added like salted butter) is a very nice replacement for butter in most uses. Not the same, but still nice results. This gives a long storage life alternative for all those boxed meals and such that require butter in the making.

My quasi-career as a car painter

Did my first trial of “just light polish / compound”. It removed very light scratching on my black car (black is the hardest to ‘get right’ as the clear coat makes whitish marks when abused) but didn’t do a thing to the deep ones.

OK, on to the more aggressive “compound” and 1000 to 2000 grit sand paper / shooting clear coat…

Tim Pool

Of Timcast… has started a “straight news” channel called Subverse. He also started a crowd funding campaign to raise $1 Million to get things to a professional level of operations. In ONE DAY he hit $2/3 Million. It was amazing to see him do his morning show and it was already at $1/2 Million and he talked about how if they got the rest by tomorrow (now, today), he would set a world record for fastest crowed funded fund raising ever. Then in the afternoon show it was already at $2/3 Million.

You go Tim!

I’ll have to see if he’s hit his $Million already this morning ;-)

Here’s the video from last night when he was at $640,000 ish:

There’s a huge thirst out there for Real Straight News when one honest guy with a YouTube Channel can rise $2/3 Million in One Day on the promise to provide it.

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227 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 1 August 2019

  1. beththeserf says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP0SzPAtG5k …Compliments of Soros’ Open Society Funding via Rise-up connection. Compare Anti-fa violent student protest with Yellow Jaune-livelihood-liberty non-violent protest.

  2. Ossqss says:

    Interesting write up on the prior asteroid subject.


  3. YMMV says:

    The normal response when a country is attacked is to fight back. Britain did that in WW-2. WW-1 was not yet ancient history, and bitterness against Germans would be the natural outcome. But not everybody in Britain was against the Germans. There were Hitler fans in high places, those who wanted the German approach. Compare that with France. Within days of the German invasion, the French surrendered (an ‘amistice’). You might say almost before they started to fight back. All on one man’s say, Marshal Pétain. Since he was a WW-1 hero, the military forces obeyed and the civilian population was happy to carry on life as usual. (At first. They would come to regret it later.)

    I am making a vague comparison to Brexit here. One half of the voters see the EU as taking away the UK’s sovereignty, the other half don’t care about EU directives on maximum vacuum cleaner power and the shape of bananas. Big deal versus no big deal. Someone might say, our overlords, their overlords, what’s the difference?

    The first paragraph above is a reaction to a book: “Madame Fourcade’s Secret War: The Daring Young Woman Who Led France’s Largest Spy Network Against Hitler” by Lynne Olson

    My first impression of this book is that it would be a powder-puff piece about gender equality, and that may be part of why it was written. But it turns out to be a very good (true) story and it provides key information to anyone interested in the history of WW-2. Madame Fourcade happened to be the right person in the right place at the right time and did a very good (impossible) job. With some patriarchy against her (French patriarchy mostly). German patriarchy actually worked in her favor — it is always good to have your enemy underestimate you. So she worked with the British MI-6 and it was a good match, with a few exceptions. FDR and Charles de Gaulle are not shown in a good light in this history.

  4. Pouncer says:

    Regarding no topic mentioned so far this week,

    I’m going to ask anybody who talks about “interference” in elections what sorts of actual events they describe. Did Boris and Natasha slip past Moose and Squirrel to put disappearing ink into the pens at the polling booths? Did a horde of Cossaks ride down and burn the entire polling place? Did ninjas sneak in and steal a box of uncounted ballots? Were Russian forgers able to counterfeit American ballots and add extra votes into the mix? Did “hackers” arrange to double or triple count some ballots, or the totals off certain machines? Did Vladimir Putin form a Political Action Committee (PAC) and donate dark money to buy targeted Facebook Ads? Did Facebook sell political ads to (gasp) possibly Russian people WITHOUT seeing the PAC paperwork?

    Is it interference to hack into a politician’s computer and reveal his/her true thoughts, allies, goals, and fund sources — as opposed to what he says, who he panders to, forecasts, and discloses? Is what happened to the DNC “interference” ?

  5. Larry Ledwick says:

    The interference is well documented the problem is tying the actual event to a specific group / entity / organization
    The forms range from.
    Failure to clear voter registration rolls which enables all sorts of shenanigans
    There are at least 10 states that have more registered voters than eligible adults in their population.
    This allows voting by dead people and harvesting of absentee ballots and submitting substitute ballots, or throwing out ballots which vote for the wrong candidate.

    Instant voter registration allowing folks to vote in multiple states for he same election and with no cross checks you have college students and others who vote in the home state, the state they go to college and Florida on spring break etc.

    Mis mapping touch screen systems so that that touch in the box for candidate 1 actually votes for candidate 2 because the active area for candidate 1 is only 5-6 pixels where candidate 2 active area is way larger than the apparent box on the screen.

    Voting by ineligible voters (felons, illegal aliens, etc.)

    Actual voter box packing with prepared votes by dead folks when the counts show things are going to be close. Failure to counts over seas absentee ballots which are much more likely to be military conservatives than the general population.

    Voting in more than one voting precint due to double registration.

    The list could go on and on – then you have the not vote influence where social media and polls etc, skews public perception to induce voting behavior that would not happen if they did not flood the system with bogus info, like push polls which are intentionally over sampled so people think it is a lost cause to vote for the candidate they prefer and don’t even bother to go to the polls to vote etc.

    The problem is figuring how much of the above is stupid voters, intentional voter manipulation by a political party (ie busing in bus loads of illegals) into close precincts to get a big enough margin that no mandatory recount is triggered. Or all of the above done due to direct financial incentives given under the table by various groups who are in fact controlled by foreign governments or strongly influenced by their agents.

  6. erl happ says:

    I am concerned about the cost of housing in Australia. I hear that housing is cheaper in the USA.

    Australia sets a minimum wage of $744 per week. Under the relatively lax lending approach and low interest rates currently applying this is good for a loan of $A80-100k or $US54-68K at current exchange rates. This allocates about 40% of income to mortgage repayments, so, to eat and clothe oneself one would need to be a practicing bin-hopper.

    Suburban houses in Australia are usually in excess of 200 square metres, much larger than in the UK where 64 square metres is the average. Cheapest project builder house is in the vicinity of $200K. Cheapest block is $150 K. Cheapest established residence is about 300K

    I am 76 years old and can’t see the slot in the end of a screw without my reading glasses. Nevertheless, I can turn an open top 40 foot shipping container into a 56 square metre two bedroom, well insulated sloping roof, timber and metal clad residence for less than $A80K employing oriented strand board for some of the internal walls on cantilevered extensions

    The result is a dwelling that can be loaded, transported and unloaded using a tilt tray truck. You can put it together in a factory using a minimum of tools, without any welding. Just wood. It sits on just four points, Requires a minimum of site works.

    If planning schemes allowed rural landowners to rent a space on which to locate such a dwelling I could see a boom in construction and self help by a lot of people freed up to satisfy a personal need. One problem one would have to face is that a building permit can only issued to owner builders once in six years. Otherwise, one must employ a registered builder whose hourly rates put him into the high income category. Of course there are lots of able grandfathers who have the required skills without the required qualifications.

    Kids growing up in green spaces have fewer emotional and psychological problems in later life.

    Kids coming home to be greeted by their mother are going to be much better off and they will probably behave much better in school.

    I have rural land but the law says I can have just an owners house plus one for a worker.

    I see this as very much a problem created by urban planners and the Australian penchant for over-regulation. We have this thing called ‘Australian standards’. So, when you want to buy a composting toilet it costs $3K. You can’t run water from the kitchen sink to anything but a septic system that will set you back $4K.

    I am flouting several laws and am prepared to do the civil disobedience thing.

    Any thoughts?

  7. Disgusted says:

    They think they can win by promising to throw open the borders to unlimited immigration for everyone (so kiss off the idea of any “good paying job” with 1 Billion Chinese, 1 Billion Indians, and 1 Billion or so folks from Mexico on south all available for pennies a day – note that contractors need not be paid minimum wage as they are not wage rate paid…)

    Also split tickets, but once was a reliable Dem voter :( Just cannot describe my rage and disappointment that we now have ZERO competition for a Republican party bent on it’s usual mission – kowtowing to big business while throwing rest of us under the bus. So my only choice now is this same party – because the Democrats surrendered their party to their most foul.

    I WILL vote, but my heart’s not in it. Interesting how not one Dem attacked the security state, our deficit, or this Tmobile takeover. Could it be that they don’t represent anyone mainstream?

    Meanwhile, Trump’s clownposse occasionally gets things right (shaking head). Like these real efforts to stop immigration and slave foreign labor displacing our critical manufacturing base.

    The one ghood thing which might come out of this obscene period? Lots of Dems going to prison for long terms. It’s time.

  8. philjourdan says:

    I am beginning to think Comey and Law in the same sentence is an oxymoron. He detailed crimes committed by Hillary, but “no prosecution”. Now crimes detailed by the IG, but “no prosecution”.

    He is the walking embodiment of unequal justice that now is the norm in this country.

  9. llanfar says:

    @philjourdan I am of the hope that the charges are being bypassed for one of 2 reasons: he is singing; there are much more serious charges pending.

  10. H.R. says:

    @Erl Happ – I don’t know if local or even National media is sympathetic to the plight of young people not being able to by ‘starter’ housing. If so, you should definitely jump in and let the media beat up on “those cold-hearted, bureaucrat bastards.”

    You asked about how it is in the U.S.. Not so much on the East and West coasts and Chicago on our ‘North Coast’ (Great Lakes), where all housing is expensive, but in the vast middle of the U.S. there are still opportunities to buy smaller, older – what we call starter homes – places in not the greatest of neighborhoods, but not in the slums, either.

    We have the same house-size inflation going on here in the U.S. Here’s a link to how the average size of homes in the U.S. has changed over the years. (Everybody call up a sq meter/sq foot conversion calculator in another tab so we can talk in the units we’re used to, eh?)


    The good news about that is that people want to move up to the newer, larger houses and that leaves behind older, smaller houses that become starter homes for young people getting started in life.

    Also, attitudes towards houses have changed considerably in the U.S. over the past century. I’m generalizing here, but my great-grandparent’s generation bought or built a home and expected to live all their life there and then pass it on to their children. That attitude was strong on farms and still held pretty much in towns and cities. Then my grandparent’s generation sort of held to that, but also might do a move-up. Also, people often worked for the same company all their life, so staying put was sensible. My parent’s generation was the G.I.s returning from WWII. Boom times, and there were jobs and opportunities and the U.S. became far more mobile. People were less tied to the old homestead and might change jobs once or twice. They also started to want a little larger lot and a little more room so the suburbs of cities started growing.

    My generation (baby boomers) was even more mobile yet, as there were more job changes and more moves and, like many, many Americans wanting new cars every few years, a lot of boomers wanted to move up in house size a few times over their careers. (Now the ‘boomers’ are down-sizing because they are tired of caring for McMansions, but that’s another story.)

    Anyhow, my kid’s generation now have no expectation of working for the same company for their entire career and either they expect to move up in their houses a few times over their life or they got a useless degree, live in their parent’s basement, have no hope of ever getting a decent job and despair of ever owning a home. But that’s a whole ‘nother topic again, and that’s where Trump comes in; jobs, jobs, jobs.

  11. Bill in Oz says:

    Earl Here is a real eye opener for you : https://kenskingdom.wordpress.com/
    Ken is checking out BOM’s weather stations here in SA.
    He has done eight so far : Cleve, Maitland, Wooraka, Eudunda, Mt Barker, Meningie & the queen of the lot Adelaide Central
    And all are faulty
    Churning out fake data
    So now we know
    It”s only in ‘BOM World”
    That there is any Global warming !
    And in the real world
    Well we don’t know
    It’s a complete fog out !

  12. richard verney says:


    Most vessels sail under a flag of convenience. The top crew are almost always obliged to speak English (no matter what the nationality of the ship may be) since English is the language of trade, shipping and aviation. But the position with regard to loss, time is money, will be very difficult.

    Much will depend upon the extent of war risk insurance and whether the area was classified as a war risk zone. The ship is probably trading under a whole series of charters, a head demise charter (which is akin to almost transferring ownership from one company to another it being part of the Stena Group), a series of time charters, which are contracts for the use of the vessel for a period of time (perhaps one for 10 years, another for 5 years, another for a year or two etc), and then there will be a voyage charter for the specific voyage in question. Each of these contracts may have different requirements regarding war risks and war risk insurance, and different provisions defining whether the ports of call may be regarded as unsafe ports. Further there is a difference between war risk insurance and trapping insurance, and of course deductibles may be very different under the various contracts of insurance that each party has (including that held by cargo interests). For example, the insurance may cover the costs of the loss of the vessel, or damage to the vessel, but may not necessarily cover the loss of use of the vessel, and in trade particularly shipping time is money.

    All of this is a legal minefield, and it is rather flippant to suggest that the Oweners have insurance, so that’s OK then isn’t it. I am sure that the crew are not sitting on board thinking it’s OK, we are still getting paid no matter how long we are held up in Iran.

  13. Ossqss says:

    Been observing some Pacific basin 6+ shaker ping pong again. Yin and Yang?


  14. Taz says:

    Noise? Or real?


    Seems like a concrete number: More than 10 billion tons (11 billion U.S. tons) of ice was lost to the oceans by surface melt on Wednesday alone, creating a net mass ice loss of some 197 billion tons (217 billion U.S. tons) from Greenland in July, she said.

    Wonder how they derive this figure?

  15. Disgusted says:

    erl happ

    It’s easy to compute the true intrinsic worth of housing. Ratio goes back to Babylonian times.

    Take the monthly rental cost per sq ft, multiply by 100 – that’s pretty much what each sq ft is really worth. Then allocating 20% or true average incomes – that’s how much home a buyer can afford.

    If home prices stray beyond those figures – government has incentivized gambling by making excessive credit available, or propping up excess valuations via zoning restrictions.

    At one time after the financial crisis, the US government had an opportunity to sever it’s connection with lenders and return to private lending. Since it failed to do so – our real estate bubble returned. Many will be hurt when real estate crashes again here.

  16. Ossqss says:

    @Taz, Greenland has about 684,000 cubic miles of ice. Antarctica has about 7.2 million cubic miles of ice. How many tons of ice is that for comparison?

  17. Ossqss says:

    Ok, so I was curious.

    There are 147,197,952,000 cubic feet in one cubic mile of ice. A cubic foot of ice weighs 57.2 pounds. There are about 35 cubic feet of ice needed to make 1 US ton.

    Somebody check my math.

    So, there are just over 4.2 billion tons of ice in a cubic mile.

    So 217 billion tons of melted ice is equal to 51 cubic miles.

    So, the melt referenced equals .00007% of the total ice in Greenland?

    Is that right? if so, is that news worthy? I recall a year or so ago, Greenland added 500 billion tons of new ice mass.

  18. p.g.sharrow says:

    All things being equal, you know how many BTUs the earth has gained or lost in any given year!

  19. Larry Ledwick says:

    I have heard a calculation that at the current “catastrophic” mass loss it would take about 50,000 years for Greenland to be ice free – or as laymen say – no big deal that ice loss is rounding error on the total ice volume of Greenland.

  20. H.R. says:

    Lessee here, Ossqss. 51 cubic miles is… divide by the square root of 3-toed possums… carry the 8… multiplied by the number of left-handed reindeer herders in Lapland… raised to the power of the number of Democrats running for President……. hmmm… hmmmm…

    That works out to exactly half the ice my wife uses in her cold drinks in one year. She hates drinks without ice. You can probably blame it all on her if Antarctica is coming up a bit short on ice.

  21. Ossqss says:

    Dang, I coulda save myself some time if I had just looked at Heller’s youtube earlier :-)

  22. Taz says:

    Posted byu/fergatronanator
    5 hours ago
    Cracking WPA2 is stupid easy these days

    So I wanted to check out to see how easy it was to crack WPA2 these days, turns out using wifite, and capturing all the pmkid’s in my relatives neighborhood, I was able to crack one out of three networks using hashcat and WPA.txt wordlist. Kind of scary if you think about it. So remember, never use the password that’s on the bottom of the router it’s likely on a wordlist. Keep it complex, or generate it via LastPass password generator.

    I take a lot of shit for my 32 character random SIDS and 63 character passwords……Will never fully trust wifi – ever.

  23. Power Grab says:

    I’ve observed a funny thing about WIFI…or rather not using it…my phone’s battery holds a charge a lot longer when I’m not on WIFI. It’s just now down to 28% and we’ve been up for 19 hours! I usually have to put it on the charger when it’s been up for 7 hours!

  24. H.R. says:

    Random thought on a Saturday morning: The attitudes towards, and understanding of hunting and where our food comes from was significantly impacted by the movie, Bambi. Before that movie, I don’t think there was any anti-hunting sentiment that amounted to anything.

    So… howz come when people see rats, they call the exterminator ASAP? Nobody chokes up and cries when little Rachael Rat’s mama is killed. “Get rid of them. Kill them all!”

    I’m thinking the world would be a different place if Disney had made the movie, Rachael Rat with the same plot line as Bambi.

    I think I’ll go check my blood sugar. It might be a little low ;o)

  25. p.g.sharrow says:

    Bambi, now those are real pests! and they belong to the “King!”and are protected by the king’s men, so very difficult to get rid of. Rats are merely an annoyance…pg

  26. Ossqss says:

    Bambi meets Godzilla video redacted due to current community standards policy.

    However, it does not impede posting the search results ;-)


  27. jim2 says:

    I’m sure some of you know about this, but I just discovered it and it’s pretty cool. Graphite paint for a non-stick surface. Not as good a teflon, but still gives a good non-stick surface. Sold for underbody of lawn mowers, but knowing this inventive group, you will probably find other uses.


  28. Power Grab says:

    Disney did make “Ratatouille”. Ever seen that one?

  29. philjourdan says:

    @llanfar – Oh he has been singing for 2 years now. Just very out of tune. And I am sure there are more serious charges coming for Comey. But that did not help Martha Stewart. Or Papadapolous. Or Roger Stone.

    2 different rules for folks. One for the ruling class. And one for average citizens.

  30. YMMV says:

    Something in the tea? What’s happening with Miss Whatever contests?

    First, Miss England, “Beauty queen Bhasha Mukherjee was born in India; her family relocated to the UK when she was nine. Far from being the stereotypical pageant contestant, the incredibly-talented Derby native holds two medical degrees and speaks five languages.” “With an IQ of 146 she is officially categorized as a ‘genius’ and on Friday, just hours after winning the prestigious beauty competition, she started a new job working as a junior doctor in Lincolnshire.”

    Next, Miss Norway contestant, “Eirin Grinde Tunheim is a transsexual woman” “born in Thailand” “has studied Economics/Administrative Studies at Tsinghua University School of Economics and Management after which she studied at NHH Norwegian School of Economics. She was also a student of Dentistry at UiT The Arctic University of Norway”

    Miss Spain, the first transgender contestant in Miss Universe

    It could be worse. Google “conchita eurovision images” if you dare.

    The above examples are from the EU, but Canada is on, make that over, the leading edge into absurdity, if not the abyss.

  31. Larry Ledwick says:

    I am sure many of you are aware of the El Paso shooting today


    Very hard to get no spin news on this one – the media are getting dizzy spinning the info and background on this one, so the 48 hour cooling off period should be observed – most likely what they are reporting today will be shot down in flames by Monday night.

  32. Larry Ledwick says:

    Those who suspect a coordinated timing to this event point to the up coming ANTIFA actions planned for El Paso in Sept. This is the ideal sort of news event to stir up emotional responses and assign motives to resisting illegal immigration.


  33. E.M.Smith says:

    The fixation by The Left with all things sexually deviant has lead to an ever increasing Impossible Acronym. Impossible in that by definition an acronym is supposed to save time in the saying…

    I find myself thinking about better ways to “keep it simple” and one thought that has currency is “innies” and “outies”… but what abouf the rest? Well, tonight “oopsies” seemed to round things out…

    Per The Shooting Du Jour:

    I don’t participate in the Media Awareness Raising Ritual for all things gun. How many people died in car crashes today? Where’s the national coverage of all of them? It is the creation of a disaster narrative to exploit it. Nothing more.

  34. Larry Ledwick says:

    And this is why we should doubt everything we hear in the time of hysteria shortly after an event like El Paso – (including this story)


  35. Larry Ledwick says:

    It looks like everyone is accepting that this manifesto is legitimately from the El Paso Shooter.


    ( current chatter on twitter is that the FBI is taking full control of the investigation – depending on your bias that could be good, bad, suspicious, horrifying – choose your play and place your bet.)

  36. Larry Ledwick says:

    The deep dig has begun – some interesting observations here (note I did not say facts)

  37. E.M.Smith says:

    FWIW InfoWars has pictures from the security cameras and others :


    Thix “update” may clarify the reports of blacks with guns and multiple shooters. Scroll down and there is a Photo of a Black Man with text saying he used his legal weapon to save and protect children…


    David Hookstead
    This man is an American hero. During the mass shooting in El Paso, he acted to save as many children as possible and used his legally owned weapon to help.

    This man represents everything that’s great about this country.

  38. H.R. says:

    There was another mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio either late on 08/03 or early this morning on 08/04. First reports are 9 dead and 16 wounded.



    I dunno. Related, coordinated attack? Putting on my tinfoil hat, I can see where someone would be interested in starting a civil war before the inevitable Trump victory in 2020. In the chaos, it would best opportunity for a small contingent to take over the government. I can’t recall where I ran across that, but I had read a year or two ago that is was standard strategy for a socialist/communist takeover; easy to march in and take over while everybody is otherwise occupied.

    The Dems have screwed the pooch by hanging on to the pendulum that has swung about as far left as it can go. Just throwing a number out there, but I’d say that 2/3s (maybe more) of America is ready for the pendulum to start swinging back to the right.

    Part of the start of the swing to the right is because people have jobs. When you are unemployed, any plans to ‘soak the rich’ and promises of ‘free stuff’ sound reasonable. When you have a job, money in your pocket, and are paying taxes, you quickly catch on that you are the rich that is going to be soaked so other people can have free stuff. People with jobs have *ahem* less interest in socialist policies. Thus the – I firmly believe – concerted effort over the past 30 years to destroy jobs in America. ‘The Revolution’ won’t come until everyone is in sorry shape and clamoring for a way out. Removing tinfoil hat

    On the other hand, the Dayton shooting may just be a remarkable coincidence that is gang related or yet again another loonytunes shooter.

  39. H.R. says:

    Oops! I forgot to test the link before posting. Anyhow, it will take you to the KHOU main page with a “404 – Not Found” at the top, but scrolling down, you’ll find the video on the Dayton mass shooting.

    [I added another link for you. -E.M.S.]

  40. H.R. says:

    Power Grab: “Disney did make “Ratatouille”. Ever seen that one?”

    I saw that and it was highly entertaining. But the plot line is that it’s a one off special case of endearing rats, not at all like Bambi‘s portrayal of evil, heartless hunters.

  41. H.R. says:

    Larry posts about changed Mylife page:

    I’m recalling that social media pages of other politically inconvenient shooters have been changed to make it appear that the shooter was a Trump supporter, white supremacist, or right-wing nut.

    So far, it seems that people interested in the facts and truth of the matter have managed to get screen shots before the changes.

    The real tell of the motivation, affiliations, and political leanings of a mass shooter is how fast the shooting disappears from the news. If the shooter doesn’t fit the narrative of the left, therefore useless to the YSM, then the story is dropped like a hot potato.

    We should be counting the days the El Paso and Dayton stories are in the news.

  42. David A says:

    There should be a very long record of this persons thinking; from friends and acquaintances that knew him, talked to him, and an extensive social media record. In addition every single contact for the last 3 to 6 months should be thoroughly researched and documented. Who personally influenced him?

    A sketchy shallow background is itself suspicious. Every single Trump supporter I know is well aware that this kind of evil insane action would be counter-productive to the persons professed goals.

    As to the multi shooter theory, I guess more information is wanting.

    Is it possible a Trump supporter went off the deep end. Certainly,
    ” violence begets violence” and there has been a lot of violence, in word and deed, against President Trump supporters. There have been many hoax crimes as well. How did Smollett fall off the radar so quickly?

    Other then prayer there is little we can do. In social media I choose to verbally challenge every call for violence from ” conservatives”. Often I am convinced that the provocative poster is a leftist troll, trying to stir up an image of conservatives as racial white bigots.

    The drug angle is also very worthy of investigation along with the break down of the family.

  43. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, RT is still reporting on the Yellow Vest protests in France. Seems a well known protester was killed by a gas canistrr launch (in the dark…) something like that. I only caught the end of the story, so need to wait for the cycle to repeat to get it right.

  44. Larry Ledwick says:

    El Paso shooter’s father looks like an interesting aspect to this story.
    It appears his sound and energy therapy has some issues.

  45. Larry Ledwick says:

    More to the Dayton shooting that the media wants to let on.

    The shooting also lasted less than a minute before good guys with a gun (cops) neutralized the shooter – that of course is not being mentioned much in major media coverage.

    Of course the problem is the people on both sides of the discussion have totally different view points it is like debating if the glass is half full or half empty, so a meeting of the minds is not likely.

  46. Larry Ledwick says:

    And now the background on the Dayton Shooter – he was a satanist / atheist
    He was wearing a shirt that on the back had a large logo that said:
    “No Heart to fear”
    “No Soul to steal”


  47. H.R. says:

    As I read while surfing around, the Dayton shooter voted Democrat in the last two primaries, Larry.

    Still, he may have some residual value to the Regressive agenda just for the “we gotta get rid of guns” angle.

  48. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yep it takes 24 – 48 hours for the free press to break the conventional media blockade on important information about these folks who engage in mass shootings. Everyone of them has some real problems and they are always members of groups that oppose the preservation of a Constitutional Republic and rule of law, but prefer rule of the sword and totalitarian might :
    Atheist / Satanists
    Soverign citizen


  49. YMMV says:

    In the rush to ban guns, the other alternative is overlooked — ban the shooters. They are all young men, so why not ban young men? More seriously, they are all young men with a problem. I suspect that in all cases, somebody noticed that but it wasn’t their problem. The problem could be that the person was bullied. It could be that he “wasn’t getting any” and everybody else was. Don’t laugh, google Marc Lépine. Everybody has problems, everybody blames them on someone else, but not everybody shoots them.

    What else do all the shootings have in common? That there is no escape route. The best that can be hoped for is life in jail. So I suspect that all of the shootings are really suicides. Dramatic ones, but the shooters have nothing to lose.

    The left might be thinking, why couldn’t he just join Antifa like a good boy? That’s a sarc, but it doesn’t mean that joining a gang or Antifa or XR etc wouldn’t be an alternative that would attract a troubled youth.

  50. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes most of them are simply screams for help by a person with limited ability to find constructive solutions to the problems they face.
    Drugs, stupid (yes some of them are not too bright), abusive home, conditioning by a poor circle of friends to seek dramatic violent solutions (pretty much the ultimate temper tantrum)

    The efforts to empty insane asylums a few decades ago and to shift mental health to for profit clinics and practitioners lead many border line mentally unstable people no accessible options. They are not crazy enough to get institutional help, they are not rich enough to pay through the nose for counseling. Their families are either dysfunctional or shut out of support by mental health authorities who just want to push drugs instead of provide real help.

  51. Larry Ledwick says:

    For those who are trying to push the “all mass shooters are white” narrative, this does not fit with that spin.

  52. Larry Ledwick says:

    Dayton shooter was clearly a leftist and an ANTIFA supporter

  53. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like Dayton shooter was a troubled youth that should have never been able to buy a gun.

  54. philjourdan says:

    YMMV has a point. A point I have made several times. The shooters do have a pattern. Democrat or democrat supporters. So it is not necessary to ban all guns. Just ban all democrats and their supporters from having guns.

    And since they want everything for free, and want to have their own safe space, put them in solitary confinement. Then they will have all their meals free, their education free, their health care free, and they will have their own safe space where no one who disagrees with them can tread.

    It is time we locked up all democrats – for their own sake.

  55. H.R. says:

    @phil: You’re too kind, you old softie, you.
    Democrat Nominee for President. Campaign slogan:

    Make Prison Great Again! The New Utopia!

    I’d laugh and put a winky after all that, but one of the current Dem nutter candidates probably will steal it as a winning strategy to differentiate themselves from the pack.

    And just think of the campaign ads. “A home for everyone and everyone has a home” with scenes of people sitting around the dining hall doing pottery and macramé, others working cheerfully in the prison gardens, cooks in the kitchen cooking tofurkey for the evening meal. Oh, and an ice cream truck that drives onto the prison grounds at 3:30 pm every day. Field trips on the prison bus with ankle cuffs attached to a long chain “So’s y’all don’t get separated now, okay?”

    I can’t tell if I’m joking or not, given the current batch of loony candidates.

  56. Ossqss says:

    I just want one, just one, of the Dem’s to allow an alien into their home behind their wall. They all have walls from recent surveys. Soros too!

    C’mon Dem’s, make a shovel ready statement we can believe in!


  57. Larry Ledwick says:

    Some comments on the view of the founders of the US system of government regarding immigration and citizen ship. Examination makes it clear that from the very beginning there was a strong disposition to limit immigration to those who would benefit American (of good character) and multiple examples of legislation to prevent immigration of certain groups which in the estimation of the government of the time would be destructive to the American Experiment if allowed to immigrate in large numbers and in some cases were absolutely excluded from immigration. The current liberal lament that our founders championed open borders and unlimited immigration is refuted by the founders own words – they did not believe that and took positive steps to say so as did several generations of leadership in the first century of America’s existence.


  58. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like car thieves no longer need to catch you in the act of unlocking your car with a key fob to capture the signal but can interrogate the the fob from a distance – or perhaps key fobs who function by proximity are the only ones that are compromised.

    In any case looks like a bit of aluminum foil is in my future.


    Need to do a bit of digging on this regarding the actual vulnerability, since the article does not give any useful technical info.

  59. Larry Ledwick says:

    Quick search implies it only is an issue with those that have proximity functions to unlock and start the car when the key holder gets close to the car.


  60. jim2 says:

    It will be very difficult to protect us from crazy people. It will be even more difficult to protect us from morons in and out of government.

  61. E.M.Smith says:

    I have ONE car with a fob. It optically talks to the ignition switch.

    It does unlock the car by radio (must push the button) but remote interrogation is not possible.

    A fob costs $250

    I’ll not be buying more cars with fobs.

    I like my old mechanical key cars….

  62. E.M.Smith says:

    I just don’t have words to describe it. Hokey, strange, what the? Good Grief… or maybe quelle surprise..

  63. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like Intel has another specter like vulnerability that they are patching.
    It apparently also tries to harvest data leakage due to speculative processing operations.


  64. Larry Ledwick says:

    Oooops that flushing sound you hear is the Progressive media narrative about the Ohio shooter.


  65. jim2 says:

    In July Senate testimony, Jim Bridenstine, NASA’s administrator, citing an unreleased study by his agency, said that up to 70 percent of the water-vapor information from the polar-orbiting satellites could be lost as that part of the spectrum is developed by 5G companies. This information is crucial for building models that meteorologists use to make forecasts.

    “Some of the data could be interfered with, it could be corrupted … it would affect our ability to predict weather, without question” said Bridenstine, who recommended the FCC require the 5G companies to transmit signals on that part of the spectrum at much lower levels.


  66. H.R. says:

    @jim2 – Question – I went to the Seattle Times link but couldn’t read the article (big blocking “jump through our hoop” thingy).

    “[…] Bridenstine, who recommended the FCC require the 5G companies to transmit signals on that part of the spectrum at much lower levels.”

    It wasn’t clear to me if “lower levels” meant amplitude or altitude. Do you know offhand which one Bridenstine meant? Thanks.

  67. jim2 says:

    HR – there is an X in the upper-left hand corner of the popup. Close it, then you can read the article. It makes sense that lower levels would mean lower amplitude, IMO.

  68. E.M.Smith says:

    Lower levels ought to be lower amplitude (as things in space looking down don’t care about altitude) HOWEVER SpaceX is looking to have LEO 5G satellites and had to move them to a lower orbit after testing the first few. It was either raise the power level or reduce the inverse-square loss of signal at the ground by reducing the distance.

    So yeah, the “end game” is a planet entirely bathed in 5G signals both upward into space, down from space and even some “sideways” between the sats.

    I’d wear a Tinfoil Hat to protect my brains from the radiation, except the open face area would turn it into a hemispherical reflector concentrating what you look at into the middle of your head…

    I’m just not seeing the need for 5G at all. My phone is still back on 3G and its FINE. We haven’t even really moved fully into 4G land.

  69. Larry Ledwick says:

    If there was any doubt about where the radical left is going – here is a hint.

  70. H.R. says:

    @jim2 & E.M. – The only reason I thought ‘altitude’ was if the 5G transmission started above the NASA satellites, it would interfere directly on the lower satellites as they attempted to transmit, let alone the interference after their signal was past the NASA satellites.

    @jim2 – I missed that ‘Escape’ X, probably because every time I get one of those when following a link, they want too much information or monetary support. So, I’m in the habit of just writing it off and backing out.

    I’ll start looking more carefully for an escape button on all sites before giving up so quickly. That left hand X goes against the right hand X position that is the norm. Gosh. Hidden in plain sight :o) Thanks.

  71. Larry Ledwick says:

    I think this needs to be filed under WTF!

  72. jim2 says:

    Those poster may have been a bit hastily considered …

    Wallace also said death threats have been sent to Haunting.net, a promoter of the industry, following the initial outrage. One such threat reviewed by Patch said: “I got something for you before we go to the deathcamp!”

    “Eat s— and die,” part of the obscenity-laden email read.

    A Facebook commenter wrote in response to the collective’s post: “So death camps for Trump supporters. I would like to see you try it. Bring it on.”


  73. Ralph B says:

    Have you been following the HSBC propping up the Yuan? I guess their CEO and Asia risk manager got fired. Kyle Bass sees something potentially brewing there

  74. llanfar says:

    @Ralph link?

  75. Ossqss says:


    That girl already has what appears to be a good rack already in her possession ;-)

  76. E.M.Smith says:

    It is all just part of the Color Revolution Play Book.

    Assert the elected government is "illegitimate".  
    Vilify the leader.
    Get it ejected / impeached if possible.
    If not repeat until done:
      Incite riot and sow discontent wherever possible 
      (get the Useful Idiots riled up)
      Blame all the bad stuff on the government and their 
        supporters.  Vilify the leader.
      Cause a minor (or major if necessary) Civil War 
           during which you depose the government
           and install your own.
    When Done
       Declare your government the only legitimate one
       Hand over legislative power to the UN / EU / similar 
          supra-national globalist device.
       Change constitution to prevent removal from power

    The only thing that bothers me so far is Trump going all soft on the 2nd Amendment after 2 false flag shootings. He’s just told The Left that the easy path to get gun confiscation done is get more of their useful idiots to go shoot people. They are more than willing to “sacrifice” a few hundred of theirs killing a few thousand of ours to “Create A Crisis” that they will “Never let go to waste” and get their gun confiscation done.

    It is much much easier to implement your Globalist Police State once the People are disarmed…

    I hope that the Voters of America are paying attention to who’s causing all the grief.
    I also hope that someone, anyone, is educating Trump on the history of Soros sponsored Color Revolutions and that he’s bought the Democratic party wholesale.

    The world would be vastly improved with Soros in jail and his “foundations” declared a RICO organization and assets confiscated.

    I think I’ll check out the fit of my holster… I may need a new belt. There’s a nice pocket pistol that lives by my bed. Maybe it needs to be in the pocket when out in the yard. We’ve not put out any Trump signs nor wear MAGA hats or anything; but you never know what the Useful Idiot Zealots might dig up online…

    FWIW, IMHO, expect this to get much much worse until the end of 2020. It will be a rising torrent leading to a crescendo just prior to the election. The Hose will file articles of impeachment timed just so that it’s in the news during early voting.

    I can only hope the Dims run another Obviously Corrupt Idiot as their candidate and that enough folks see through the Impeach Screech to re-elect Trump.

    “But hope is not a strategy. -E.M.Smith”

  77. Another Ian says:

    “How’d They Calculate That?”


    You’ve mentioned the importance of order of calculation. I guess here “16” is a suitable global warming answer

  78. Larry Ledwick says:

    President Trump may have baited the Dems into withdrawing red flag legislation. By endorsing it in concept the Dems are reflexively saying it is a half way measure and not good enough. Schumer is trying to shoot down the idea as not going far enough and he will push for something stronger.


    It is like the Dem leader ship has a strong gag reflex for anything that President Trump is even remotely positive about and immediately spit it up and say no way, let’s do something even more intrusive and likely to lead to onerous gun confiscation laws.

    They believe their own spin and think they have a large block of the public who supports their position, but there was very strong push back today on twitter that shows the public that supports gun rights is not going to sit this one out and will make lots of noise. It also creates an ideal opening to discuss the fact that the Dearborn shooter was in ANTIFA and even went armed to a street rally, so in one swift move he tarred and feathered the John Brown Gun Club idiots of ANTIFA and created strong pretext to assume they are willing to go all the way to lethal violence.

    I hope that that is what is going on. Bill Mitchell a twitter conservative who usually is a very strong supporter of President Trump also surprised everyone by suddenly coming out in defense of Red Flag laws. Many of his supporters were stunned but if that push from the conservative side will get the Dems to toss the baby out with the bath water just to spite Trump and to avoid exposure during debates on their own sides well demonstrated violence it might be a winning move.

  79. llanfar says:

    I’ve also heard the rumor that Trump will tie one of his campaign promises to the red flag legislation. A certain way to kill it and tie the blame to dems while appearing moderate to the middle of both parties (ref. DACA).

  80. Larry Ledwick says:

    How red flag laws really get used in the real world.

  81. p.g.sharrow says:

    These “Red Flag” laws are ALWAYS misused. Always! Once someone can attack others by alleging danger, it will and does happen and the police have to become the tool of the harassers even if they know it is being done as personnel vendetta. There is a neighbor woman that is trying to give me a police record as a dangerous and violent person to drive me from my home of 23years so she can be rid of me. This is getting bad, my lady is beside her self with worry and the legal bills will be sky rocketing for us while the harasser can ride the system at no cost to her.

  82. Ossqss says:

    Certainly an unexpected change of course in the Pacific.


  83. Larry Ledwick says:

    The above gives a whole new meaning to the remark that the Major Media are prostitutes, doesn’t it.
    Seems you can not only buy your media coverage but there are other ways to “get some” coverage you want into the media. Now we know where those penetrating interviews take place.

  84. H.R. says:

    @Larry re randy FBI: That’s a lotta different from goin’ to town Saturday night and watching them pump Ethyl.

    (Don’t know the age cutoff where someone is too young to get that.)

    @p.g.: The pols could get a Red Flag law right that doesn’t step on 1A and 2A rights and would be extremely difficult to abuse, but it would be really, really, really hard to do. However, the pols have no interest or inclination to get it right in the first place; too useful against their enemies.

  85. Another Ian says:


    The dietary information you are highlighting is missing this lot

    “IPCC announces Fatwa on meat eating”


  86. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, Larry, here you’ve gone and pulled back the covers on how open the media are to FBI “improprieties” and how FBI Agents can be Man-Nipulated by the media. That’s just such a naked truth. Why, it’s enough to get some folks all hot and bothered and lathered up. Next thing you know, there will such moaning and wailing by both the FBI and the Media that this is unsuited for public discourse.

    For shame, for shame… for someone ;-)

  87. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I’m VERY glad to see that. Nothing, and I do mean nothing, will drive more people away from the IPCC drivel than telling them they can’t have a burger and fries, steaks, pork chops, BBQ ribs & chicken, KFC / fried chicken, or BACON(!)

    Go ahead, just try to tell Americans that… I DARE you IPCC!

    We are a nation that LOVES the bacon double cheeseburger with a milk shake.

  88. Another Ian says:

    Another one to add this to your “glad list” on nutrition then

    “Wurst Idea Ever? Germany to Tax Sausages to Fight Climate Change”


  89. Another Ian says:

    For your AT&T file

    “My New Award Winner for Worst Customer Service — AT&T’s ACC Business”


  90. Larry Ledwick says:

    Russian ammo dump explosions caught on video.


    Some of the twitter commenters think the blast is nuclear but that is not the case, just a very big old fashioned explosion of military artillery shells.

  91. Larry Ledwick says:

    You fisher man/woman types will get a chuckle out of this.

    (note to self to catch really big fish use big fish as a lure)

  92. H.R. says:

    Nice tarpon!
    Wait… did he have a fishing license and a Tarpon permit? If not, he may find Fish & Game knocking on his door.

  93. Larry Ledwick says:

    I think he can claim self defense on that one. I wonder how many folks get pulled off the pier on similar situations each year?

  94. E.M.Smith says:

    I wonder how long it takes sharks to learn to hang around piers where people stick “light snacks” over the edge…

  95. Pouncer says:

    Ask a journalist: Suppose “science” proved that video games were linked to mass shootings, but in an unexpected way — the shooters were pysch-conditioned to achieve a “high score” and put their names on the board. Therefore, to reduce or end mass shootings, “science” requires that all mainstream media be censored to prevent the names, or even initials, of these game-damaged shooters from ever being made public. Don’t print the names. Certainly don’t print pictures. Don’t print the manifestos, or interview the family and school chums. Don’t cover the story at all. No story, no copy cats, no competition, no high score, no more shootings.

    Of course, such censorship violates the first amendment. But if it save even one life …

    How do you, as a journalist, feel about your constitutional right to speech and publication being violated by such a policy? Would you support amending the constitution to fix this problem? Would you support un-constitutional laws, on a temporary basis while court challenges wind their way up the appeals levels, to at least try a pause to the problem? Would you, as a journalist, support “snitches” who dox or “out” other media who violate the new censorship rules? If it could save even one life…?

    The really sad thing is that I have come to believe a majority of modern journalists WOULD willingly give up their own 1st amendment rights under a framed “scientific” proposal of this sort.

  96. YMMV says:

    Pouncer: “Suppose “science” proved that video games were linked to mass shootings, but in an unexpected way — the shooters were pysch-conditioned to achieve a “high score” and put their names on the board.”

    Unexpected? It’s a good supposition that violent video games, violent Hollywood movies, and verbally violent MSM talking heads increase the odds of mass violence. That and violent cities, violent gangs, and the fading of the moral values that used to prevent most of this (the laws were just the superficial covering of the unwritten moral laws that used to come from church and culture).

  97. jim2 says:

    YMMV said: “It’s a good supposition that violent video games, violent Hollywood movies, and verbally violent MSM talking heads increase the odds of mass violence. ”

    No, it is not a “good supposition.” It’s nothing more than superstition on your part.

  98. jim2 says:

    So, if there are 100 million Call Of Duty players and let’s say we’ve had 100 mass shooters and that also they play COD, then a whopping 0.0001% became mass shooters.

  99. Ossqss says:

    I don’t think that there is any question (psychologically) that repeated exposure to violence of any kind in any form (book, game, TV, Movie, real life, etc.), desensitizes the individual experiencing it over time.

  100. jim2 says:

    The UK National grid has reached a “tipping point” where it gets more power from green energy sources than fossil fuels. Today, it had a major power failure, leaving millions in multiple cities stranded.


  101. jim2 says:

    Ossqss @ 10 August 2019 at 1:18 am

    But we are discussing a putative link between exposure to violence, which video games are not, and mass shooters.

    If there were such a link, thousands of men returning from various wars would have gone on mass shooting sprees. It doesn’t happen. They come home, get jobs, and raise families.

    There is no there here.

  102. E.M.Smith says:


    One hopes the blackout of about a million folks at peak commuting hours will serve as a “teachable moment”…

    So now the UK joins Australia and California as places where electricity is a “sometimes thing”.

    No eCar for me, or I suspect increasingly for them, either.

    Not going to get folks interested in riding the electric trains once they halt once a month or so.

    Green (new) Deal, met Realty and Reality won.

  103. Ossqss says:


    I think the real interesting question would be the level of exposure of all mass Shooters to violent experiences in any form. Heck, even the old cartoons like Bugs Bunny and Roadrunner were considered violent.

    My only point is, for someone who is susceptible to perpetrating such an act, exposure to desensitizing observations, will have an effect.

  104. jim2 says:

    I think mass shooters are simply disturbed, mentally ill, perhaps psychopaths – who knows exactly; but depictions of violence don’t make mass shooters, IMO. I suspect if you transported 100 hard core young gamers to a fresh real battlefield, they would not be “sensitized” to what they would find.

  105. Ossqss says:

    It will be interesting to find out the root source of the power outage in the end. Once somebody actually exposes the truth. I don’t have them in my tablet, however I bet they were unable to buy energy from France, because of some type of referenced renewable energy problem and demand.

    You know, the “renewable energy” as a term absolutely drives me crazy. Always included are the burning of wood pellets and dung to cook on and the rest of the world who wants electricity. It is quite the large item in the stat. It really is just a way to hide the ineffectiveness of wind and solar power in the Global energy demand stats. The IEA wouldn’t lie would they?

  106. Ossqss says:

    I hear ya Jim2, and would point out, I made no correlation aside from the possibility of enhancing a vulnerability to some.

    Heck, I watch the walking dead for pointers on the how to survive in SHTF times. And they have many good ones they had to pay for consultation to get ;-)

    That is one of the most violent shows I have ever seen. No BS.

  107. Larry Ledwick says:

    It may (violence) be a bit different than either, violent video games may not specifically increase violence but the condition to get “high score” may push those who go over that line into much more extreme behavior. Game players spend a lot of time working on game strategy to get to high scores. In the same sense a violence prone individual conditioned in that media, may be also conditioned to spend more time planning and strategizing on how to do the most damage. As a result instead of a sociopath going over the edge and just randomly killing a handful of people you now have a sociopath conditioned to make detail plans over weeks, months or years to inflict the most harm possible in some future violent out burst. The result is in those cases the body count goes way up over what it would have been for spur of the moment violence.

    Also you now have the “teaching effect” of prior violent outburst teaching future violent prone individual some of the effective techniques they can use to up their “score”

    In that case the gaming background does not enhance the likelihood of violence but would increase the degree of violence of those that come from that cohort.

  108. jim2 says:

    The problem with going down rabbit holes, like the video game one, is that it distracts from finding the real problem. Politicians are busy now to “do something” about mass shootings, even though they account for a very small number of total non-natural deaths. It matters not that politicians don’t have a clue what makes a mass shooter. They will “do something” and it will be deleterious for us and our rights.

    Mass shooters obviously don’t have compassion for others. They possess neither empathy nor sympathy. In some cases, there was zero indication an individual would become a problem. No police record nor any other problems in life history. To me, this indicates a psychopath. So that’s my speculation. It isn’t against the law to be a psychopath or sociopath, not that there’s a lot of practical difference.

    Additionally, some of these individuals bought guns legally, again no reason to believe they would become mass shooters.

    In some cases, there were some indications that they wanted to carry out a violent act on social media or to their peers. But often people spout off a bunch of threats in the heat of the moment, but usually nothing comes of it.

    The upshot is that in most cases there is no way to detect these people. There is nothing the government can do. I think that is the fact of the matter.

  109. jim2 says:

    Gotta wonder if this was a Clinton hit …

    Jeffrey Epstein found dead in Manhattan jail cell; multiple reports claim death by suicide

  110. H.R. says:

    Well, well, well. Here’s a surprise… not!

    It seems Jeffery Epstein managed to finally commit suicide despite being on suicide watch and being held in a special cell designed to prevent suicide. I wonder how many bullets he put into the back of his own head?

    There are waaaaay too many powerful people that absolutely did not want him questioned, even if he kept his mouth shut, let alone have him go to trial. It will be extremely hard to convince me that Epstein was not Arkancided.

    Looks like the battle between those that wanted him alive to testify vs. those that wanted him silenced was won by the latter faction.

  111. E.M.Smith says:

    Sky News UK is reporting Epstein has died of “suicide” while in prison….

    Wasn’t he connected to the Clintons?…..

  112. E.M.Smith says:

    I see Jim2 & H.R. beat me to the punch while I was typing… I can only plead that it is earlier here and the coffee is only slowly sinking in… :-)

    FWIW, Sky has a row of stories of interest but none of them is the major power outage… so I’m waiting for the “live feed” to cycle to see if it made the news at all…

    Update: The power cut showed up as a one liner, now the Epstein story running. Who knows if they will bother with more than the one liner.

  113. jim2 says:

    Mexico has gone full “Mad Max.” The socialist President doesn’t like violence, so he sits on his hands while blood runs free.

    MEXICO CITY (AP) — Vigilante attacks and mob justice appeared to be on the rise in Mexico this week as violence mounted, more than two dozen bodies appeared along roadsides and the government ruled out any new crackdown on criminal gangs.

    Prosecutors in the northern state of Sinaloa said Thursday five young men have been murdered in recent days, and in all five cases toy cars were carefully placed atop their corpses. The men were apparently car thieves, and the toys indicated both the reason they were killed and served as a warning to other thieves.

    The latest such murder came Wednesday. Prosecutors said the victim had been identified as the same man seen on security camera footage earlier that day stealing a pickup truck at gunpoint from a woman outside her home in the state capital, Culiacan.


  114. E.M.Smith says:


    Either a government provides real justice and fair law, or the people will (eventually).

    The People tend to be a much less fine grained, blunt and to the point, justice.

    IIRC, when Columbia was run by the drug cartels, the honest police got tired of the corruption and while officially following orders to lay off the cartels, when off duty formed a vigilante squad that was effective in cleaning things up. So their family was safe from the cartel assassination squads as they were officially “on the take”, but off hours with full black face cover, took care of things.

    Expect the same anywhere corruption becomes too much.

  115. E.M.Smith says:

    All Sky UK is saying about the power cut is “it was due to 2 plants failing at once. A very unusual occurrence”.

    Completely ignoring the potential that it was a cascade failure. One plant trips, not enough spinning reserve, 2nd plant can’t take the surge so it also trips.

    I smell coverup by obfuscation in progress… “Very unusual… Nothing to see… move along, move along…”

    UPDATE: Now running the Human Interest how bad it was story…

    And that one of the “power stations” that went down was an offshore wind farm in the North Sea.

  116. Steve C says:

    Paul Homewood is worth reading on the power cut (and, indeed, on the Whaley Bridge Dam near-disaster, which turns out – surprise! – to be basically the usual poor maintenance story). Curiously, although the cut took out half the country, we here in Nottingham knew nothing about it, not so much as a glitch noticed chez moi.

    With regard to Epstein’s terribly convenient “suicide”, I’m pleased to note that RT was the place I saw it first. How very remarkable that a man who could have dropped half the world’s deep state in deep doo-doo should choose so to retire from the situation.

  117. E.M.Smith says:

    @Steve C:

    That Homewood link is enlightening.

    So one of the “failures” was a planned shutdown of a large gas plant when demand dropped below their minimum operational point. Calling that a failure is a fraud.

    Then the big wind farm switched off (likely due to high wind limits being hit?) And THEN the rest of system goes unstable due to frequency drop, sheds load, and stabilizes what it can.

    Sure looks to me like too much wind dropped out for the available dispatch to absorb. I.e. wind use beyond max stable limit.

  118. Larry Ledwick says:

  119. Larry Ledwick says:

    Studio decides not to release the controversial movie “The Hunt”


  120. Steve C says:

    @EM – I’ve also come across mention (couldn’t find it again, of course) that Sadiq Khan, the well-known mayor of London, was visiting the control room of one of those plants just before the relevant time. The suggestion is that someone was aiming to cut the gas back … and back … and let the wind input provide even more of that “free” energy for another “Wind power produces more than N percent of Britain’s energy!” headline to impress him.

    Well, I hope he was impressed, if so. I certainly was, mainly at the way the outage affected different areas of the country while other places, like here, weren’t affected. I would have expected a more regional effect, not blobs all over the map. Weird.

  121. jim2 says:

    Steve C. The isolated effect was probably due to safeguards in place to prevent an outage in one area to spread and shut down the entire grid. Usually there are large circuit breakers that are automatically tripped in order to isolate such problems.

  122. jim2 says:

    Steve C. – here is a pdf with probably more than you want to know about power grids:

    Click to access Planning_of_Electric_Power_Distribution_Technical_Principles.pdf

  123. Another Ian says:

    “Unexpected UK EarthHour at peak time Friday — just after Wind Power hits new high?”


    And around that area

    “Australian Government Sues Wind Farm Operators Over the 2016 South Australian Blackout”


  124. philjourdan says:

    @Larry Ledwick Re: “President Trump may have baited the Dems”

    Exactly! Trump comes off as reasonable, the dems come off as frothing at the mouth. And the 2nd stands.

  125. philjourdan says:

    Re: Epstein. The aspect I love so much is AOC. She is so stupid, they wants to blame Trump for this. But the reality is, it was a clinton hit! It fits his mold to a tee (Vince Foster et. al.).

    I am glad she is calling for an investigation. Now Barr can call it bipartisan..

  126. Larry Ledwick says:

    Twitter chatter is also suggesting that some believe this is a undercover move to witness protection program to keep him alive and they just staged this “suicide” with a “glitch” in the TV camera watching his cell at the exact time he magically produced the means to hang himself and be there so long that the body was cold to the touch when he was found – although news outlets are showing them trying to resuscitate him as he was taken away.

    This is going to end up like at Tom Clancy novel when this gets all sorted out.

  127. Ossqss says:

    Where is that Clinton list? It just got longer.

  128. Larry Ledwick says:

    I’ve heard that twitter is deleting “body count posts”

    By the way this is interesting if true.

  129. Larry Ledwick says:

    More from Tom Fitton Judicial watch and Reuters
    Tom Fitton

    Verified account

    3h3 hours ago
    “two jail guards are required to make separate checks on all prisoners every 30 minutes, but that procedure was not followed overnight, according to the source.” #Epstien


  130. Larry Ledwick says:

    Read all the way to the end :

  131. Steve C says:

    UK’s failing power – there’s a nice analysis in some detail on the WattsUp thread on it. Note hiis comment right at the end, and also that Vuk, in the next comment, has also heard about VIP visitations, so yeah, showing off might indeed come into it.

    @jim2 – Ye Gods, thanks for that PDF. Yes, I think there’s probably a detail or two in there I shan’t be needing next time I rewire the amateur station … ;-)

  132. Another Ian says:

    “The line I liked best was from Ross Cameron; “the left take Trump Literally but not Seriously. Trump’s supporters take him Seriously but not Literally”. :”


  133. Another Ian says:

    Re the pattern of where the power didn’t go off in UK –

    “National Grid in the UK copied the actions of the Victorian grid operators last summer to keep the portions of the grid with operating thermal generators intact, shedding pure demand grid segments to do so. This was the hard lesson from the 2017 South Australia blackout – protecting the RELIABLE generation assets is paramount for fastest recovery when a grid has been heavily compromised by large amounts of intermittent renewables.

    So Australia is leading the world, both in heading into the abyss and dealing with the consequences.”


  134. Another Ian says:

    Re “the new IPCC Report on Climate Change and Land.”

    Some comments on same

    “Climate Change and Land: discussion thread”



    “Farm unions accuses media of “inflating” IPCC report”


  135. Larry Ledwick says:

    The line I liked best was from Ross Cameron
    Actually that phrase was coined by the reporter Salina Zito and has been picked up by a lot of folks since. She was one of the only reporters that saw the Trump victory coming because she drove thousands of miles stopping at small towns and actually talking to locals in the cafes and stores, and noticed how many barns had huge Trump for President signs on them.

    That does not diminish the value of what it says though.

  136. E.M.Smith says:

    Went to look at an old MEMEs page, it was all 404s…

    Followed back to gab.ai and got a forced “Login” page.

    Looks like the days of being a lurker on their memes feed are over. Sigh.

    I need a new place to find memes…

  137. Larry Ledwick says:

    I get 99% of the memes I post on twitter.

    On the power outage in Britain here is some local coverage of the outage.


  138. Larry Ledwick says:

    Lest we forget France is still marching in the streets:

  139. Larry Ledwick says:

    A little Trump humor clip.

  140. Larry Ledwick says:

    Interesting summary of the media landscape.


    I am not sure how cable news revenenue is growing perhaps their click bait headlines are still paying off.

    I’ve gotten to the point that when someone links a major media story on twitter, rather than just giving them a reflexive click, I scan the comments, many times there is enough info there to understand the substance of the link without actually going there.

    Mostly it acts as a filter to avoid going to propaganda news links.

  141. YMMV says:

    jim2 (10 August 2019): “The problem with going down rabbit holes, like the video game one, is that it distracts from finding the real problem.”


    “Mass shooters obviously don’t have compassion for others. They possess neither empathy nor sympathy. In some cases, there was zero indication an individual would become a problem. No police record nor any other problems in life history.”

    True, no compassion, empathy, sympathy. Which doesn’t necessarily make them a psychopath or mass murderer, … or a white collar criminal for that matter, or even a ____ .

    The part I want to know, for the ones who did turn out evil, was it really a surprise to those close to them?

    “The upshot is that in most cases there is no way to detect these people. There is nothing the government can do. I think that is the fact of the matter.”

    Given the state of psychiatry, this is true. In any case, the government is not the proper instrument. I would think the family and the school system would be the first to notice, before the police would notice. Not that they could do anything about it.

    Going back to my comment on the 9th. Banning video games is like banning guns or banning books. My interest is more in the irony. Hollywood actors are all for banning guns, yet guns are featured in Hollywood productions. How many murders does the average viewer see per week? In explicit close-up gory detail? Off-stage death is so old-fashioned.

    It’s the culture, and the whole culture is desensitized.

  142. E.M.Smith says:

    I would point out that the culture was much MORE desensitized in the past…

    In Merry Old the sport of bowling with the skulls of Danes was known.
    The phrase “Off With His Head!” is not heard nearly so much now (and certainly not as much as in the days of The French Revolution).
    We no longer have vigilante gangs looking for low tree branches.
    And about those “death trains” and gas chambers…
    Nor have we lost 1/3 to 1/2 the population in a plague lately and needed to “Bring out your dead!”

    Read some Shakespeare or the ORIGINAL Brothers Grimm…

    Oh, and do remember that The Little Drummer Boy was a lad of often single digit years who played the drum into battle as the troops around him slaughtered each other with long knifes and other sharp objects…

    And don’t get me started on what was done to slaves in the Roman Empire, or by the Arab Slave Trade (or even Belgians more recently in Congo with disciplinary amputations…)

    If anything, we are a species wired and plumbed for battle and lots of gore, trying to cope with mind deadening boredom… and some can’t handle it.

    BTW, if video games predisposed to violence and combat actions then geeks would rule the world… and we don’t. We sit at a terminal and click keys…

    I again will point out that the increase in mass shootings is parallel with a massive increase in the use of SSRI and related psychoactive drugs when for some of them it is KNOWN that there’s a genotype who does not metabolize them correctly and goes BSC violent as the blood level builds up to way toxic. If it is “only” one in a million, and you have 30 million on prescriptions…

  143. Larry Ledwick says:

    Do you need to stock up on long johns?

  144. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like Hong Kong is about to go ballistic – today there were reports of undercover cops blending into the protests and then making arrests. Apparently Mainland China has been slowly filtering people into Hong Kong for some time to make up their arrest lists.


    I have a bad feeling this could lead to another Tienanmen Square situation very easily. Especially since the protesters are waving American Flags and singing our National Anthem in protest against their loss of freedoms, then compound that with the precarious situation Trump has put China in with his financial pressure.

    Some sources have alluded to the fact that their make believe economy is finally starting to groan and creak from the accumulated bogus investments and efforts to grow too rapidly for too long.

  145. E.M.Smith says:

    Don’t forget the perpetual devaluation of the Yuan… All a currency kept low means is that the wages of the works are held artificially low in real terms and their external buying power reduced. Not something that makes for domestic bliss…

    China has their “dangly bits” in the squeezer and is likely to react badly.

    Oh, and I don’t need long johns – I just live in warm places ;-)

    Some of the news out of Russia is a bit dire too (on the crop front). With August temps in the single digits and occasionally frozen. Hard to grow crops in that context. But does show the value of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine farm land…

    Making decisions based on reality and good predictions, what a concept. All while our political “professionals” are well past the sell by date, increasingly corrupt, and embracing insanity.

    Maybe I’ll find my Russian Intro book and try, yet again, to get past basic babble….

  146. Another Ian says:

    “Google search “Jeffrey Epstein with Bill Clinton” – first responses all Trump”


  147. Larry Ledwick says:

    This may put a dent in the immigration debate and also our national debt.

    President Trump to announce a change in policy regarding welfare dependent immigrants.
    Expected to save the US tax payers some $ 57 billion a year in maintenance costs of immigrant expenses.


  148. YMMV says:

    E.M.: “I would point out that the culture was much MORE desensitized in the past…”

    Absolutely. The list of human atrocities goes way back, into pre-history, and probably back as far as whatever vicious monkey or ape we evolved out of. And it continues forward. Rwanda, Northern Ireland, Bosnia. We live in a bubble, a relatively good one, and the trick is to keep it.

    The masses enjoyed the Roman gladiator fights (I’m told), the masses enjoyed the public executions in Jolly Olde England (so I’m told), so if Hollywood finds that revenge movies are popular, so be it. Crime, at all levels, has always been with us. There was no golden age.

    But look at it another way. Many here are old enough to remember when they did not lock the doors to their house or their car, when they could walk the streets as children without fear, even at night, when they could leave a bicycle lying unlocked outside and expect it to still be there in the morning.

    What changed? The culture. There was American Exceptionalism. And then it was gone.
    Drugs? Unpopular wars? Rap music? Best Before Date passed? I don’t have a clue.
    Blame whatever you don’t like. Or whoever.

    I see Joe Biden blamed violent video games, so let me explicitly say that’s not a big factor.

    “finding the real problem” — the problem is not that we have guns, knives, WMD; the problem is that we do not like each other. We still have empathy for dead refugees and polar bears, but for other people, not so much.

  149. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hey EM I think I found the boat you need when you move to Florida !

    Means you can even go fishing in hurricanes.

  150. cdquarles says:

    YMMV, well, it’s too facile to blame drugs, for they’ve been with us always; yet not illegal until relatively recently (roughly 100 years). Drugs aren’t a problem. Intoxication may be a problem. Culture, definitely.

  151. YMMV says:

    cdquarles: “it’s too facile to blame drugs, for they’ve been with us always”

    Right. Take alcohol for example. It’s as old as civilization, so it’s pros and cons are well known.
    Its worst case was probably Prohibition, the shortage of alcohol, fuelling lots of crime and TV series about Chicago.

    Other drugs, like MJ and cocaine have been around, but not in the general population until recently.
    I’m told that the MJ now is not your father’s MJ. The winos of yesteryear are now junkies (according to the rumor mill). Things are the same, but things have changed.

    Drugs like Ritalin? There’s a drug for everything now, according to the ads on TV. ED for example. If you went by TV ads, that’s a new thing. The old ads were for haemorrhoids and psoriasis.

    The blame doesn’t go to drugs directly, it goes to the search for easy answers.

  152. H.R. says:

    @Larry re 360 deg capsize boat:

    Yah, but… how do you keep the bait in the live well during a roll? I’ll have to check to see if they have little safety harnesses for each of the sardines.

  153. E.M.Smith says:


    Um, your general point holds (that there are a lot of new drugs in the general population not seen before) but the specifics on MJ, Opium, Cocaine not so much.

    We’ve found traces of MJ (or was it tobacco?) & Cocaine in Egyptian Mummies (causing folks to ponder “How?” vs “Is our history wrong?”) and remember that Cocaine was VERY popular in the 1800s. Commonly consumed in a beverage named Coke… The “7% Solution” Sherlock Holmes book is talking about a 7% solution of cocaine. Freud used it (and some of us would say his work shows it…). There’s a long list of cocaine users from that era.

    Opium was all over the place, too. Britain found it so lucrative a trade they fought a war with China to maintain it.

    Meth / Speed? It was in the cockpit of aircraft through W.W.II and until surprisingly recently. Hitler used it as did the Japanese and likely a lot of our leaders. Amphetamines were considered a great thing for the performance boost they gave. (IMHO later pictures of Hitler show the downside of prolonged regular use… aged about 20 years in a 1/2 decade.)

    When I was a kid, the cough syrup “Chericol D” had codeine in it and was sold over the counter. I was given it for various colds and to “help me sleep” when sick. One guy in town bought lots of it to get high. It was “folks like him” that got a great OTC remedy moved behind the counter on prescription. It would have been better to treat him as a medical issue and leave everyone else alone.

    My Mum grew up in England. As a child, the Mum of her best friend was an Herbalist. Among the herbs sold (legally) from her cart was M.J. “to cure melancholy and poor appetite” per Mum.

    FWIW I’ve had “old” M.J. from the ’70s from Cheap Dime Mexican (who knows how much parsley was in it…) to Thai Stick (M.J. tied on a bamboo sliver and with who knows what done to jack it up) AND I’ve had some of the newer variations. The newer stuff IS different from Dime Mexican, but not as strong as the old Thai Stick. That was “one hit to loopy” and wondering which way was down (literally… felt like I was hanging from the ceiling when my back was really pressed against the wall of the breakfast bar… Another guy was trying to remember how to talk repeating the same fragment of sentence over and over “I how can remember I how talk how I…”)

    So yes, “New M.J.” is not Dime Mexican and is far stronger than that. It is also not as strong as other commonly available variations from the ’70s. Similarly, on new stuff, a “bud” from another guy ( I had a general rule of “Toke one or two to be friendly” with some friends) was a very nice effect and about like Very High Quality ’70s stuff, but not debilitating. Then there was “Two hits and asleep” as yet a different friend had something very drowsy inducing. (This is spread over about 15 years so not like I have this experience often…) The point? M.J. has thousands of variations and even individual plants can range from near nothing to OMG! Then, there are processes (ancient processes…) to make it stronger.

    Hash and Hash Oil have been with us for thousands of years. For about 2 years in the ’70s I was interested in M.J. (Then found the effect on my long term memory was not something I wanted) I briefly grew a few plants under shop lights in my apartment. I invented to things: “The 5 minute miracle cure” where leaves were dried on a cookie sheet in the oven at about 220 F then crumbled into a jar; and the “Acetone Extraction” to make instant “hash oil” without the need to cook it. One thing I learned was that every individual plant is unique. One gave great visuals with “black and white jaggies” around objects. No other plant has done that for me ever. Another was wonderfully relaxing, but not confusing. Yet another was stupefying

    Remember, this was in the ’70s.

    My preference was for more visuals and more relaxed yet aware enough to enjoy it. Other folks liked to just be “blotto” (thus the friend who bought some Thai Stick and wanted to share…)

    So it is entirely NOT accurate to say that the modern OMG! MJ didn’t exist in the ’70s, it was just $100 / baggie and most folks were buying $10 “Dime” bags of Mexican… And you can still get the milder stuff today if you wanted to. Just most folks don’t. (There’s a group, a fairly large group, looking for medical effects not a high, so they search out high CBD oil / low TCH cultivars. Things with no “kick” at all if possible.)

    My point to this long comment is simple: There WERE widely available and used strong drugs available for generations before it was made illegal. Most folks tend to self-medicate only to a reasonable limit, then stop. Some few folks have runaway feedback loops. We ought to treat the alcoholic, not ban beer; and we ought to treat the drug addict, not incarcerate generations.

    The general public seems to have realized that, given the present move away from the “War On Drugs” (and anyone associated with them…)

  154. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmm speaking of drugs and violence –


    This outlet is fairly new it has roots in the Tienanmen Square massacre and an effort by Chinese immigrants to create an independent news source.

    It appears to be reliable from the few items I have seen but it will take time to verify that.

    Our History
    Having witnessed events like Tiananmen Square and the persecution of the spiritual group Falun Gong, and at a great risk to themselves and their loved ones, a group of Chinese-Americans started publishing The Epoch Times in Chinese in May 2000 in New York City. Some reporters in China were jailed, and some suffered severe torture. Yet despite the risks, they could see the growing need for uncensored coverage of events in China.

    Local editions published by regional bureaus soon followed. Today it is the largest Chinese-language newspaper outside of Mainland China and Taiwan.
    The English edition of The Epoch Times launched in September 2003 on the web, and in August 2004 as a newspaper in New York.

  155. Larry Ledwick says:

    I forgot here is the twitter link to them.

  156. jim2 says:

    Where would Hollywood be without tits and guns?

  157. Another Ian says:

    Not sure of site but earlier today Facebook had photos of a string of military type vehicles likely pointed at HK

  158. Larry Ledwick says:

    That would be the gateway pundit link I posted above:

  159. Larry Ledwick says:

    Here is something on the Chinese military movements from twitter

  160. Larry Ledwick says:


  161. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Very good comment there, even if several pages long. Much in it I already knew in rough of vague form, but it fills in the details and specifics. I’d not realized how much the current Chairman was dedicated to eradicating any reforms…

    This part sure sounds like what has been rising in the USA for about 50 years:

    For Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Xi, words are not vehicles of reason and persuasion. They are bullets. Words are weapons for defining, isolating and destroying opponents. And the task of destroying enemies can never end. (This deserves a stand alone discussion of United Front strategy – but I’ll leave this for another day).

    For Xi, as with Stalin and Mao, there is no endpoint in the perpetual quest for unity and regime preservation.

    Xi uses the same ideological template to describe the role of “media workers”. And school teachers. And university scholars. They are all engineers of ideological conformity and cogs in the revolutionary machine.

    And we’ve now reached the point where our colleges and universities are largely Left / Marxist Indoctrination Centers and our Media is pwned by them…

    Then what more accurately describes the efforts of Google, Twitter, Facebook etc. to eradicate Conservative Discourse from the Public Square than this:

    Already, Xi has shown that the subversive promise of the internet can be inverted. In the space of five years, with the assistance of Big Data science and Artificial Intelligence, he has been bending the Internet from an instrument of democratisation into a tool of omniscient control. The journey to Utopia is still in progress but first we must pass through a cyber-enabled dystopia in order to defeat the forces of counter-revolution.

    Yes, very heavy with clue that comment…

  162. Another Ian says:

    Not sure this will work – “Bonkers Britain”


    No wonder Brexit is a challenge!

  163. Larry Ledwick says:

    Jeffery Epstein’s death was announced on 4 chan 38 minutes before it was officially released – giving specifics of the events.


  164. Larry Ledwick says:

    File this under AI will one day rule the world ( not yet Virginia)

  165. H.R. says:

    @Larry re AI: Who says the AI program was wrong. Fact of the matter is, the AI program failed because it only identified 26 and missed all the other criminal lawmakers in Sacramento.

    The program needs tweaking.

  166. Larry Ledwick says:

    Trump post on twitter about china –

  167. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I think we need the whole link, not just the end part…

    @Larry L:

    Oddly, when the “preview” of your links initially comes up in the management panel, for your twitter links, it is in Chinese characters and looks like a message panel, yet the actual link here is correct. Waiting a while, the preview becomes correct. It’s like there’s some long timeout going off to somewhere in Chinese Characters at the Twitter link…

    Things that make you go “Hmmm….”

    I’ll see if I can capture an image some time…

  168. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like I posted the wrong link above try this again –

    Trump post on China

  169. Larry Ledwick says:

    Google insider spills the beans on AI manipulation of their search algorithms.


  170. Ossqss says:

    I tested the latest edition of this today going from TLH to SRQ (i10 and i75).

    It worked well, as it is crowd sourced. Probably worked better with those traveling around large colleges due to volume and ability. Interesting no matter;-)


  171. philjourdan says:

    @Larry – 26 lawmakers;….

    I would say it is underestimating the criminals.

  172. Ossqss says:

    I neglected to add, for this to be effective you gotta have a navigator. I did not find any method that was simple to initiate a notification, aside from acknowledging it was still there in maps with a yes or no response to a pop up, which was good.

  173. E.M.Smith says:

    Interesting twist to the plot, involving as it does the shutting down of 8chan for having this posted while Google walks free…


    (Natural News) Jim Watkins, the owner of the anonymous message board 8chan, wants to set the record straight with regard to the recent shooting spree that was reported by the mainstream media as having occurred in El Paso, Texas.

    Despite being targeted by the mainstream media, tech companies, and the rabid left for allegedly hosting the “manifesto,” which the Ministry of Truth claims that the El Paso shooter wrote prior to his violent melee, 8chan was not actually the site where the manifesto was uploaded, Watkins contends.

    In truth, the alleged shooter actually uploaded the manifesto to Instagram, which is owned by Facebook, prior to when the attack was reported as having occurred. Later, someone else uploaded this same manifesto to 8chan, but most people don’t know this because the mainstream media has failed to report the facts.

    “First of all, the El Paso shooter posted on Instagram, not 8Chan,” Watkins is quoted as saying. “Later, someone uploaded a manifesto. However, that manifesto was not uploaded by the Walmart shooter.”

    Sure smelling like a “Dirty Tricks” department operation to me…

    “Fast & Furious” much?

  174. Another Ian says:

    “U.S. Intelligence Positions Hong Kong as Proxy Conflict With China – Thankfully President Trump Sees Trap…”


  175. Another Ian says:

    E.M. That mp4 came in an email without further links.

    Seems it is Katie Hopkins and it is called “Bonkers Britain”. I can’t find it as such but sounds like part of it is “The Lion of London Bridge”

  176. H.R. says:

    I have a new career: Realtor for Squirrels.

    We have three squirrels that have been tearing up. They’ve ruined some of my tomatoes, killed 5 of the 6 sunflowers I planted, and they have destroyed somewhere around 100 pears from one of my pear trees. I counted 4 pears remaining from what looked to be a bumper crop when the pears came out at the start of Summer. Who knew that squirrels like pears?

    So long as they were only eating the bird seed that fell on the ground under the bird feeder, I didn’t care whether or not they were around. Then they started tearing up the pears and the garden so “This means WAR.” [Bugs Bunny voice]

    Last Saturday, I bought one of those live traps and baited it with corn; no takers. Two days ago, I got the bright idea to bait it with raw in-the-shell peanuts. That worked and last night I found one in the trap just at dusk.

    I loaded the squirrel into the car and relocated him to the reservoir/State Park we live beside, albeit about 5-6 miles further up at a picnic area. On the way there, I sold the squirrel on the idea that the new home was far better than our place as it was waterfront property.

    When I opened the trap to let the squirrel out, I expected the squirrel to shoot out of the trap like a rocket and hightail it away from me. Instead, I had to tilt the trap at a fair angle and the squirrel finally walked to the opening, hopped out and looked around, and then ambled over to one of the three large trees where I had chosen to open the trap. The squirrel seemed none the worse for wear.

    One down and two to go.

    Oh BTW, I bring in the trap at night. The squirrels aren’t active and the skunks are.
    A) I have no beef with any skunks. They don’t come around and tear up.
    B) I do NOT want to mess with relocating a pissed off trapped skunk. I don’t see any upside to doing that.

  177. H.R. says:

    And, my War On Wildlife is also being fought on another front. Starting last Thursday, I installed some electric fence on two open sides of the garden to protect the tomatoes from deer. Deer really like tomatoes, green or ripe.

    We have a lot of deer that pass through our yard along the back lot line where the garden is located. When passing through, they sometimes stop at the bird feeder, knock out all the bird seed and eat it up. Those buggars are bold! Once, in early Winter, we found deer tracks in the snow on our front porch. The bird feeder was empty, so our guess was that they sent one of the deer ’round to the front of the house to tell us, “Hey, get yer butts in gear and fill up the feeder.” It seems that the deer couldn’t figure out how to ring the doorbell, though.

    Installing the fence has torn me up a bit, particularly my shoulder. Driving the fence posts in hard, dry ground using a sledge hammer was not fun. Then trenching the feedout line to garden from the garage, where the fence charger is located was not fun in 90/90 weather; 90 (F) and 90% humidity.

    The last straw for my shoulder was driving in the 8′ ground stakes on Monday. But it’s all done now and I’m getting about 4,000 volts out at the fence.

    Who knew that gardening meant operating in a combat zone?

  178. p.g.sharrow says:

    @ HR; squirrels are just rats with a fancy tail! So far my biggest problem is PackRats, they seem to be into chewing up everything. 20 years ago I put up a 8foot high fence to curb the deer from the vegetable garden. . I had walked out into the garden to check the irrigation and this big buck offered to chase me out of the place he and his harem were feeding on my melons.
    He was lucky I had no weapons or he would have been stew, next day I began the tall fence and got a big loud mouthed dog. Later a large black bear showed up and cowed the dog and I had to drive it away with a heavy metal kitchen chair! Later I got a dog with a bit more courage…pg

  179. p.g.sharrow says:

    Notes on deer control. set out a naked light low down so it casts shadows, up. As deer approach they see big shadows moving behind them and they spook. Also they won’t try to jump a fence that they can not see through. If they can see what is on the other side they can clear a 7 ft fence.

  180. Larry Ledwick says:

    Speaking of wild life, had an interesting encounter last night when I got home from work. Sitting on the hand railing of the stair well was a visitor. He was very calm and let me slowly walk to my front door and even take this picture a little while later. He was literally 12 ‘ from my front door, and just watched me as I unlocked the door and went in.

  181. H.R. says:

    @p.g.: So squirrels are just hoity toity rats, eh? ;o)

    Per the fence height: Yup, I’m well aware of how easily deer can jump a fence., so I put the fence at about 23″ away from the timbers of the raised bed garden. That’s just enough room to run my push mower between the fence and bed timbers.

    The tomatoes are spilling out of the bed a bit, so they are about 14″ – 18″ from the top wire, which is at 48″ height. I am counting on the fact that the deer will not jump and land in what appears to them to be a dense pile of bushes. So they will have to lean over the fence to try to snag a tomato and that should give them a bit of a jolt in the neck/chest area. It’s three wires, with the lowest at 8″ to keep racoons away and the middle wire splitting the distance at 28″ to prevent the deer from lowering their head under the top wire and munching on the tomatoes near the bottom of the plants.

    We’ll see how it goes. The deer are starting to get active as we approach the Fall rutting season. I’m just glad I don’t have to contend with bears, although black bears are moving into the area. That’s when I make the switch to indoor hydroponics gardening ;o)

  182. H.R. says:

    @Larry L: Awesome! Don’t you just love it when you get a close encounter with birds? That’s of any sort, let alone raptors. Birds have that odd tendency to fly away, doncha know. Nice photo.
    The oddest bird encounter we had was at our first house. It had a couple of 50′ – 60′ trees in the front at the street and we had a gravel pad between the trees where we parked. One day when we cam home from work, there was a peacock sitting in the branches of one of the trees, about 10′ off the ground. Those birds are huge!

    For those who may not know, peacocks are not native to the U.S. Midwest ;o) We called the Wildlife Department to ask how best to remove the bird to a safe place. They said that it obviously left some place where a peacock or two was kept (needed a permit for that as peacocks are considered wild exotic animals) but they had no reports from any permit holders that they were missing a peacock. They said to leave him alone and he’d head for home when he got really hungry.

    So we had a peacock up in our tree for three days. We came home on the third day and he had left sometime while we were at work.

  183. Larry Ledwick says:

    I am very impressed with the Hong Kong Protesters.

    This gal was shot in the eye with a bean bag round the other day, back on the lines with a sign and a bandage.


    Although this form of protest is gutsy not so sure it is the smart thing to do, I cannot imagine Chinese leaders letting this slide.


  184. Larry Ledwick says:

    The protesters are finding ways to reduce the effects of tear gas.

  185. jim2 says:

    And now, for something completely different …

    Install the Windows Subsystem for Linux

    Before installing any Linux distros for WSL, you must ensure that the “Windows Subsystem for Linux” optional feature is enabled:

    Open PowerShell as Administrator and run:

    Enable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Microsoft-Windows-Subsystem-Linux

    Restart your computer when prompted.

    Install your Linux Distribution of Choice


  186. Pouncer says:

    How does “Pepe the Frog” picture enter into the meme / poster signage war in Hong Kong?

  187. philjourdan says:

    @HR – I wish my problem was squirrels. I get to WFH tomorrow so that the pest control can rid my house of Bats! Protected in this state, so they cannot kill them. And they have to rip out all the insulation and replace it. A nice tidy $5k job! Just because of a few mice the fly!

  188. Larry Ledwick says:

    How does “Pepe the Frog” picture enter into the meme

    Pepe has become a world wide symbol for those who are pushing back against the GEB’s and totalitarians control freaks and globalists I believe. People are beginning to realize that we are all in this together the globalists and the name your local variant evil bastards are really all part of the same tribe, weaken one and you weaken them all.

  189. Ossqss says:

    @Hr and PG, well nouph said.

  190. Power Grab says:

    Hey, I have another rather random question about that abandoned bullet train (or whatever they were calling it) in California: It went to the middle of nowhere, right? Could they have used it to evacuate the folks from the big cities in the event of some big, honking catastrophe? Or at least the richest of them who could afford to trample everyone else while they made their exit inland?

    It wasn’t supposed to end up in the county where the earthquakes are still ongoing, was it?

    IIRC, there was an article recently that said they were planning to build a big battery in that same county (as the ongoing earthquakes) to supply the electrical needs of LA. How in the world would that ever work?!?

  191. E.M.Smith says:

    @Power Grab:

    No battery could be made big enough to power L.A. for more than a few seconds…

    The “train to nowhere” is no where near any city that matters.

    It is ALL in the Central Valley. The big cities it was originally supposed to connect are coastal.

    L.A. and San Francisco (bay area).

    So it starts a few hundred miles (and a mountain range) north of L.A. near Bakersfield.Yeah, a cow town known for being a good place to buy your first tank of gas out of L.A. …. and then runs up to about Stockton. Another cow town, though with a “Port” at the end of about 60 miles of canal from the Bay, known as a good place to fill up with gas after spending 4 hours to go 80 miles getting out of San Jose / Silicon Valley toward the Sierra Nevada or Central Valley fishing.

    So picture that. It’s a good 1 1/2 hours drive at 4 A.M. and more like 3 to 4 at any time folks really want to go someplace, to get to, or from, BOTH ENDS of your 2 hour train ride. That’s about 6 hours MINIMUM (not counting any time waiting for the bus to load at each end) and up to 10 hours. All to go a distance I regularly drive (via the direct route) in about 7 hours. 6 on a good day (or good evening).

    You could not have chosen a worse place and manner to try to connect L.A. to S.F. if you worked hard at it.

    The problem, of course, is that any route that directly connects them either requires displacing the existing and very important freight lines from the existing best rail right of ways, or buying out land owners at $1 Million to $20 Million per property (domestic lot…) and a cost in the $Trillions once you do that.

    So of course they decided to build the train where the land was cheaper (and STILL extremely expensive by rest of country standards as it is prime ag land with 3 or 4 crops a year…) and that is where nobody much lives… And at the end of an already jammed up freeway to get out of / in to both ends with a multi hour commute.

  192. YMMV says:

    E.M. Thanks for the info on drugs. I think Feynman had it right. My mind is my meal ticket. I’d starve if I had to do manual work. So I don’t mess around with it. But thinking about it, mostly drug users are only harming themselves. The ones in the opium trance are harmless, some recreational drugs may make users more mellow and less aggressive. The demand side is the lesser problem, although there might be increased crime from users trying to support their habit. There might be other side effects, equivalents to Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. I don’t know. Oh, and death from not knowing exactly what is in the drug or where it came from. But when we talk about drugs and violence, there is no doubt that there is a lot of violence on the supply side.

    “Most folks tend to self-medicate only to a reasonable limit, then stop. Some few folks have runaway feedback loops. We ought to treat the alcoholic, not ban beer; and we ought to treat the drug addict, not incarcerate generations.”

    With two caveats. First, if the user doesn’t know how strong the drug is, he could have a nasty surprise. The other is that for some drugs, stopping is not an easy option. Locking up users is like blaming the victim, although a willing victim. Prevention is easier than cure, theoretically, since both are seemingly impossible.

    Back to the history of drug usage. Most of what I know comes from musicians, since they seem to be close to a supply and because they are the most likely to talk or write about it. Booze, cocaine, MJ, LSD. Opening the doors of perception on one hand, feeling great and performing poorly on the other hand. Opinions are mixed.

    But sometime, some say 1968, the culture started to change. I think drugs did have at least some part of that. When youth started toking, they saw that they had switched to the “other side” of the law. The police, instead of being your friend and protectors, became the “enemy”. That sentence comes across too strong. Not all at once, not for everybody everywhere, and not all due to MJ. But there was a change in attitude.

  193. E.M.Smith says:

    What I’ve come to appreciate about banning drugs is that there are thousands of plants with various psychoactive effects. It is literally impossible to ban them all. At least two grow wild all around this state. Jimson Weed and magic mushrooms. In my back yard is a tree with medicinal properties; and most things medicinal can at some dose have odd side effects. Elephants are known to get tipsy on fermenting fruit.

    I have two books on herbal medicine ( as part of Prepper stuff – in case it were needed). One of the plants that acts to remove pain is an extract of “Wild Lettuce”. It is possibly the 2nd most common weed I can’t eradicate from my yard ( after dandelions…). Is there a “recreational dose”? Maybe.

    I have another book on all the other common plants. It lists all sorts of effects from consuming them (from various discomforts to pain to death to a nice high…) For a while I had naturalized tobacco in my yard, for example. (Makes a nice bug killer…) I once tried to list all the various plants that could be used “recreationally”. After about a page, I gave up. I was not very far into the book…

    The biggie for me, though, was a Scientific American article from about Sept 1989 or so per anesthesia. Seems they ALL work by the same mechanism (even alcohol). They change the cell wall thickness. What changes cell wall thickness? ANYTHING that dissolves in the fat layer of the lipoprotien bi-layer cell wall. Cyclo-propane is one used in medicine, but most petroleum vapors will do (thus “huffing” everything from paint thinner to gasoline to glue). This includes alcohol.

    It also includes AIR. Every diver knows about “Rapture of the depths”. Nitrogen dissolves into the cell wall. At 200 feet down, you are getting pretty tipsy… Much beyond that, you pass out. So going to ban hyperbaric chambers? SCUBA diving?

    BTW, the nitrous oxide used in whip cream cans also works… Very nice M.J. like buzz from it, but it ends in just a minute or two after breathing clean air.

    So once you realize that “intoxication” and “anesthesia” are kinetics of the human body with a seemingly unlimited number of things that can be used to trigger them, the folly of attempting to ban all the things becomes more clear.

    Much better to teach the person why it’s better to be in a more normal state.

    Oh, and remember that the Runners High is from them producing Opioids internally. So we “approve” the use of extreme physical activity (that can have damaging effects too) for stimulus of your opioid receptors but make it a crime to grow poppies as they make a similar compound… but do let you use the poppy seeds on buns (which can cause you to fail a too restrictive drug test).

    It really is just silly where you end up once the banning begins. Some places have even made laws against sucking on toads… IMHO, anyone willing to suck on a toad to get “high” is already crazy ;-)

  194. H.R. says:

    YMMV: ” My mind is my meal ticket. I’d starve if I had to do manual work. So I don’t mess around with it.”

    Yup. I messed around with drugs from about aged 18 to just shy of aged 23, and even then I had backed off considerably. It was an easy, obvious conclusion that “drugs made me stupid” and I didn’t like myself being stupid. I preferred my reasonably smart self, in particular recalling how nicely my brain performed before I started recreational use of drugs.

    E.M. mentioned the positive feedback loop some people have. I didn’t have that. I emphasize the ‘recreational’ part of recreational use as I never missed a day of work, performed poorly or unsafely at work, did any driving while seriously impaired particularly alcohol; if I’m drinking, I’m at a place where driving isn’t a factor or transportation has been arranged. Nor have I ever ‘gone off’ on anyone due to being under the influence of ‘something.’

    So I am much happier and have a lot more enjoyment of life straight rather than buzzed. I’ve never regretted the choice and for me, it was an easy choice; stupid and somewhat out of it or sharp and engaged? The world is an infinitely fascinating place. You miss all that when you are buzzed.

  195. cdquarles says:

    Better, H.R., to say being intoxicated is stupid :). I also learned long ago that I didn’t like being intoxicated. Catch, again, is the wide variability; and that there is a thing called receptor up and down regulation. Better to be safe than sorry, so avoid intoxicated states. But yes, the ‘progressives’ did this to control people. As a wise (enough) woman said many years ago, they control you through guilt, so they make everything potentially good ‘illegal’. See “Three Felonies a Day”, for instance.

  196. Power Grab says:

    @ EM re: “No battery could be made big enough to power L.A. for more than a few seconds…”

    I totally believe that. I’m not an engineer, and I can’t for the life of me see the point in wasting money trying that kind of nonsense. Must be a GEB thing.

  197. E.M.Smith says:


    Power used JUST by L.A. COUNTY (Not the entire L.A. basin of several counties…) for 2018

    All Usage Expressed in Millions of kWh (GWh)
    County	Sector	2018	Total Usage
    LOS ANGELES	Total	67856.281249	67856.281249

    That’s 67,856 GWh or 67 Terra-watt hours.

    A sort of typical car battery is about 1 k-Wh
    (85 Amp-hours x 12 VDC = 1020 Whr or 1.02 kWh)

    Let’s say you “only” wanted to run L.A. Country for one day.

    67,856 / 365 = 186 MWh. Or 186,000 KWhr. That’s 186,000 car batteries (that are a pretty good storage device for float charge hot standby).

    At about 50 lbs each, that’s 9,300,000 lbs or 4,650 tons.

    Yeah, you could do it. That’s about the same as 5000 cars and they can fit those into the county…

    All to get One Day of standby for one country.

    Now, how many days do you want to have as “hot standby” for a period of no wind?…

    And how many of the counties of the L.A. basin do you want to keep lit?

    I count about 8 south of the Grapevine / mountains:

    Yeah, GEBs will make lots of money off of Rent Seeking from Government power of taxation.

  198. Another Ian says:

    “Moon Rock Mineralogy: Yes, the Apollo missions were real, QEDirt”


    And comments – a good read IMO

  199. pouncer says:


    Quotes from a very rapidly changing story

    “All but four of the 30,490 emails from Hillary Clinton’s unauthorized email server were forwarded to a private Google email address featuring a name similar to a Chinese company, according to documents released by a Senate committee on Aug. 15.”

    “Frank Rucker, the ICIG investigator, and Jeanette McMillian, an ICIG attorney, told the FBI about the anomaly on Feb. 18, 2016, at a meeting which included Peter Strzok, who had just taken over as the section chief heading the investigation. Rucker told Congress that Strzok was “aloof and dismissive” and didn’t ask many questions.”

  200. Larry Ledwick says:

    This is interesting if it works out. Greenland has great strategic importance for our relations with Europe, and could have a big impact on both military and economic spheres of influence.


  201. Larry Ledwick says:

    So now the other shoes are starting to drop confirming from official sources what has been known for months in the independent internet investigative universe.

    Solid documentary proof that HRC intentionally leaked classified emails to insecure accounts, likely as a “deniable” intelligence leak to a foreign power.

  202. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmm I wonder if he took a skin diving trip with concrete flippers.


  203. Larry Ledwick says:

    A bit more on Clinton, it now appears that the FBI was an active participant in destroying evidence to protect HRC.


  204. jim2 says:

    Larry Ledwick says:
    16 August 2019 at 12:51 am says: A bit more on possible Greenland purchase

    What Trump should do is offer to trade Greenland for Puerto Rico!! :)

  205. jim2 says:

    Apparently Greenland has rare earths that China is developing. So does Trump actually want Greenland for the rare earths? Or does he want to make it look like he is going to buy it as a bargaining chip to get China to the table on trade? Wiley player.

  206. H.R. says:

    jim2: “What Trump should do is offer to trade Greenland for Puerto Rico!! :)”

    LOL! And two second round draft picks plus 4 Senators and 11 Congressmen to be named later ;o)

  207. Another Ian says:

    “Nails It – Economic Analyst El-Erian: The Era of “De-Globalization” is Here…”


  208. Another Ian says:

    Re “Let’s say you “only” wanted to run L.A. Country for one day.”

    Might be a bit of high grade copper wire in that as well?

  209. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Most high voltage wires are steel core aluminum. But yeah, for low volts high current batteries you will almost certainly be needing a few tons of thick copper cables… and one hell of an inverter or motor-generator…

  210. Another Ian says:

    Jo in fine form here

    “Skeptics get 49% more media, and other fairy fantasy stories from Nature Gossip Mag”


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