Bongino – Open Thread For A While…

Bongino is really on a roll laying out what’s really going on in the back rooms / behind the scenes of this whole DC Follies process. As a consequence, I’ve posted links to a few of his videos. Well, today is another one. To prevent this becoming a constant addition to other threads, this thread is where I’ll just be adding links to his videos as this whole thing unrolls.

The plot, as of today, is that Trump has called the bluff of the Dimocrats and their faux “impeachment”. The constitution says “The House Of RepresentativeS” not the “Speaker & her party”… Now a Senate intel committee packed with never Trumpers chimes in with a “me too!” rollout of more crap. Bongino has a great explainer. By 23 minutes I was having laughter tears…

Seems that the “Investigation” Trump was supposedly “demanding” at the point of accused extortion was in fact already underway in Ukraine and our intel folks already knew it (so Trump knew it). So, let me see again:

1) No threat in the phone call. No pressure.
2) No Quid Pro Quo offered.
3) Ukraine did not know we’d held up the aid AND the aid was in fact already being released.
4) Ukraine had for a couple of months already opened a new investigation.

Uh, if that’s using color of office to extort Ukraine into starting an investigation is sure is lacking every single necessary element… including that the thing “demanded” is already known to be a done deal…

Just OMG. The House Clown Show is just so to much lack of self awareness….

So if / as more Bongino shows dig up yet more, I’ll just add them here.

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21 Responses to Bongino – Open Thread For A While…

  1. jim2 says:

    The dimowit leftards keep saying the House can use whatever process they please to impeach Trump. The Constitution does not lay out a process for impeachment, so to an extent they are right.

    But what they conveniently leave out is due process, something specified by the Constitution. This is something that SHOULD stand in the Supreme Court.

    The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution each contain a due process clause. Due process deals with the administration of justice and thus the due process clause acts as a safeguard from arbitrary denial of life, liberty, or property by the government outside the sanction of law.[1] The Supreme Court of the United States interprets the clauses broadly, concluding that these clauses provide four protections: procedural due process (in civil and criminal proceedings), substantive due process, a prohibition against vague laws, and as the vehicle for the incorporation of the Bill of Rights.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_Process_Clause

  2. cdquarles says:

    One of the things forgotten, back in the Watergate days, was, apparently, the Hildebeest (and others) trying to deprive Nixon of his personal Constitutional rights. That, at the time, cost the Hildebeest her slot. So yeah, she learned *exactly* the lessons of Watergate. [And she wonders *why* she lost … plenty of folk remembered that, along with her horribly run campaign. “How could he have won, no one else I know voted for him. ;p”]

    Speaking of the Constitution not laying out a process, the same is true of declaring war. Congress has to do it, but the words “declare war” are not strictly necessary. All that is needed is that the Congress fund it, regardless of the wording. See 2001’s Authorization of the Use of Military Forces.

  3. philjourdan says:

    Due process does not enter into it until the trial. But the 5th amendment does apply.

    The only way they can get a vote of impeachment is to prevent any defense evidence from being presented (the grand jury method). That works in the DAs office, but will not play too well in Anytown USA.

    Still, Impeachment is just the grand jury returning charges. The trial is where it is presented AND due process should be followed. And John Roberts presides. While the democrats can probably get 218 before next November (but not after), they will lose some democrats in the Senate once the defense plays to America. And that will be their downfall.

  4. jim2 says:

    phil – according to the dimowits, this IS the trial! Neither Trump nor the Republicans can confront witnesses, subpoena, and are otherwise very limited. There is no due process here!! I was so happy to see Trey Gowdy get on board. That guy’s got formidable legal chops. Can’t wait to see what happens next.

  5. philjourdan says:

    @Jim2 – I know they think that. But that just demonstrates their ignorance and is the reason many democrats outside of the House (and elected office) are saying it is a lose lose proposition.

    The democrats can do whatever they want until they impeach. Then they have to have real evidence AND they no longer control either the narrative or the process.

    Smart folks would make sure they acid tested everything before indicting. But then no one accused the dims of that trait.

  6. Another Ian says:

    Around this area

    “Here is Part 1 of a podcast thst details how the Radical Left smear merchants have manufactured UkraineGate.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/10/09/smear-inc/

  7. H.R. says:

    @philjourdan re impeachment: The process is the punishment.

    The Regressive arm of the Uniparty (DemocRATS) doesn’t want this to be an actual impeachment. It just needs to be a cloud lingering over President Trump as we go into campaign season. The YSM is in it to do whatever is necessary to bring about the downfall of America and, oh by the way, President Trump.

    Accuse! Accuse! Accuse! Muh… Russia! Muh… Stormy Daniels!… Muh… Ukraine!

    The Dem base will believe anything they are told and they are told “Orange Man Bad.” People with classical liberal or conservative viewpoints or who think for themselves and see America being “Made Great Again” and are rightly PO’d don’t count.

    This impeachment war is for the hearts and minds of the ignorati, which will determine the outcome and future of our Country.

    May God grant mercy and wisdom upon the sheeple.

  8. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    While I think you are right… I suspect that the Dim Dear Leadership would really like to hang a golden scalp on their wall next to their pictures of Billary Clinton… and might be just stupid enough to try it.

  9. p.g.sharrow says:

    I think H.R. is correct, Removal of President Trump is not in the cards. The Demos will try to maintain this drum beat of “Evil Trumps” into the election with the help of the YSM. It is all they have. BIT! Trump and the Real Americans are beginning to attack with their ouw “Evil Demos” and they have truck loads of Dirt to deliver. And now the legal systems of the world is being turned on them. We live in interesting times…pg

  10. E.M.Smith says:

    Only part way into this one and it’s already got goodies in it. First off, 2 folks working for Guliani have been arrested for “illegal campaign contributions” which to me says someone is trying to paint there investigation actions as an “in kind” campaign contribution. That’s not likely to work out well for the DIms. Then, there’s a segment on how the removed ambassador to the Ukraine was spying…

  11. Another Ian says:

    “MORE Documents Implicate Joe Biden in Ukraine Scandal, It’s About To Get A WHOLE LOT Worse”

    Via http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/10/10/bad-bad-biden/

  12. Another Ian says:

    “TRUMP WINS WAR GAME BY NOT PLAYING IT – PURE GENIUS!”

    https://www.pickeringpost.com/2019/10/11/trump-wins-war-game-by-not-playing-it-pure-genius/

  13. u.k.(us) says:

    I’m old enough to remember when CNN reported the (bad) news, the news that holds viewers attention.
    Now they are 24/7 anti-Trump, I tune in now and again hoping for a change.
    They are not even a news channel anymore, neither is Fox, where do you even go to get “news” nowadays ??

  14. Larry Ledwick says:

    There are a small number of new outlets to try this is one of the newer ones.

    https://www.oann.com/

  15. philjourdan says:

    @HR and EM – I agree with both of you as well. However, they are forgetting one important fact.

    Trump is not an establishment Republican. The things that work with Romney or Bush do not work with him. He will go beyond defending himself and take out a lot of them in the process. Biden is the first. Warren is not going to last. Hillary will be under indictment. And half of the Obama admin will either be in court or “unindicted co-conspirators”.

    The dims just poked a hornets nest..

  16. Another Ian says:

    Dan Bongino can be relied upon to keep up with the important breaking news. Having been a NYPD Detective, he is methodical in his research and relies on evidence.
    His integrity is not in question and he is fearless. He usually gives his talking points in the beginning. That’s good because the show is long. Very easy to skip onto the next topic. He is funny nd extremely smart. Great to listen to when you are doing other stuff.

    As an aside from today, he notes that Mueller and Rosenstein are close friends, advance plotters, and bad guys. Bongino worked for Rosenstein when he was a secret service agent. He has a front row seat, reliable sources, and is fully aware of the fact that America as a Republic is in great danger right NOW. People like Tim Pool are full of conjecture and wrong turns.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/10/10/bad-bad-biden/#comment-1246259

  17. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Bongino also works out (notice the size of the arms…) and practices martial arts AND carries… He’s not a guy to mess with given the skill set and situational awareness…

  18. E.M.Smith says:

    What with watching the Trump Rally I’d forgotten to put up a pointer to the next Bongino episode:

    He was watching the Rally too and shows the clip of Trump saying Biden was good for “kissing Obama’s ass” ;-)

    He then does a riff on how Trump is the real deal and folks like Kamala and Cuomo both stand out as faking it in a somewhat embarrassing exchange…

  19. E.M.Smith says:

    Here’s Ep. 1087 from today. Has a snip of Maria Barteromo saying The AG report will be out Friday, so “Mark Your Calendars”. Also says she hears it is as thick as a phone book…. Maybe “this time for sure!” ;-)

  20. E.M.Smith says:

    Ep. 1088.

    This is a fun one as he points out how utterly untrustworthy Chuck Todd is starting at the 15:40 minute mark. Talk about your useful timing ;-) Plays a clip of Rand Paul talking with Chuck and then just rips up Chuck Todd in a great rant. Todd calls it “gaslighting” to claim Biden was strong arming Ukraine when Biden is on tape doing just that! It was that kind of stuff had me uninterested in learning Chuck Todds name…

    And at his web site:

    https://bongino.com/ep-1088-they-cant-hide-this-forever/

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