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What’s Going On?
Now postponed to January 31st, maybe.
A new election is scheduled for Dec. 12th. Farage and Boris cut a deal to not split the vote. Polls have shown support for Corbyn plunging to very low levels. It looks like Labor is in trouble.
The Labour leader has the lowest poll numbers of any leader of the opposition since records began. His net satisfaction rating is minus 60, outstripping the previous negative record held since 1982 by Michael Foot. He is less popular than Boris Johnson among both men and women, in every socioeconomic category, whether richer or poorer, in London and Scotland as well as the Midlands and Wales and, remarkably, in every age group. Perhaps it’s no surprise that the over-65s prefer Johnson to Corbyn by 62% to 8%, but it’s arresting that even among the youngest voters, aged 18 to 24, those once seen as the Labour leader’s base, Corbyn is less popular than the prime minister, albeit by three points.
So, for now, It’s still Groundhog Day and will be until mid December, or January, or…
The protests continue and are verging on full revolt. The “Protesters” have increased their resistance (after police used live ammo and killed some folks) and moved their tech to about the mid Zhou Dynasty with the use of Javelin and Bow & Arrow. (Note to self, get more arrows… I know where my two bows are, but the arrows got used up a decade or two ago.) Personally, I’d prefer a very strong sling shot to a bow as you can then use just about any small hard object as the projectile. Archers will rapidly run out of arrows if they can’t collect them from the battlefield, and I doubt the Police will allow that.
It is quite the sight to see archers facing off against a Phalanx of body armor clad folks holding Roman style large shields. Shades of the Roman Empire… It is looking in terms of tactics rather a lot like that era. At least if you ignore the lexan, tear gas, petrol bombs, eye protection, etc. etc.
I do recommend watching how the clashes unfold as it is instructive of just what happens when a very determined resistance, without the use of guns available, faces off against Empire.
An organized people who remember their history and recognize that The Old Ways still work.
Who’s Your President?
Looks like it’s becoming a fad to play “Who’s Your Prez?”. I’m lumping them together now… I suppose the UK Elections could be put in here too, but that’s a more orderly and normal thing. Sort of.
Guido (Venezuela) supporters took over the embassy in Brasilia. Now out of it, one wonders what was the point. News coverage implies some big meeting scheduled for Brazil, but the reality looks pretty wimpy.
Guaido supporters occupy Venezuela’s embassy in Brazil
13 Nov 2019
Supporters of Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido occupied that nation’s embassy in Brazil here Wednesday after saying that several diplomatic personnel had withdrawn their support for leftist Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro.
Guaido’s envoy to Brazil, Maria Teresa Belandria, said in a statement that some embassy personnel communicated early Wednesday that they “recognize President Juan Guaido” and were prepared to “voluntarily (hand over) the diplomatic headquarters to the legitimately accredited representation in Brazil.”
So that whole Venezuela thing is still festering, without much hope of resolution, with 2 President Claimants.
Bolivia crisis: Evo Morales arrives in Mexico for political asylum
Evo Morales has landed in Mexico where he has been offered asylum after resigning as president of Bolivia amid election fraud protests.
In a tweet, he said it hurt to be leaving Bolivia but he would return with more “strength and energy”.
Mexican Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard said a Mexican government plane was sent for Mr Morales.
Meanwhile, Bolivia’s military commander ordered troops to back up police who have clashed with Morales supporters.
Some 20 people were reported injured in the clashes. Mr Morales earlier urged his supporters to resist the “dark powers” that had forced him to step down.
He also tweeted a photo of what he described as “my first night after leaving the presidency forced out by the coup [organised by opposition leader Carlos] Mesa and [opposition activist Luis Fernando] Camacho with the help of the police”.
They now have an interim president who has declared she will arrange elections inside a couple of months.
The deputy head of the Senate, Jeanine Áñez, has said she will take over as interim president until new elections are held.
The Impeachment Farce moved into the light of public view. The Idiot Shiff making a spectacle of himself with attempts to criminalize normal government behaviour. Trump, by law, is required to have corruption in government prevented and by treaty with Ukraine is required to have mutual cooperation on it. The Biden’s were running a $Billion Shakedown Operation and Joe admits proudly on camera to extorting the government of Ukraine for personal gain of his son. THAT is the pig being coated in lipstick.
I do have to wonder, though: With all the effort put into this, with Eric Chiarly Mellow being a C.I.A. man, and with there clearly being huge Top Cover for everyone from The Clintons to Obama to The Bidens to all the others involved: Was this Yet Another CIA Op to take down another country then fleece it for dark money for more ops? Were they happy to “spread the wealth” to those political families willing to let them run the world? It sure is looking like a CIA / FBI / TLA driven coup in progress.
Not quite a “Who’s your Prez”… yet.
Chile’s Pinera acknowledges ‘abuses’ in handling of riots: media
Saturday, November 09, 2019 9:31 a.m. CST
Riot police during protests against Chile’s government in Santiago, Chile, November 8, 2019. REUTERS/Henry Romero
SANTIAGO (Reuters) – Chilean President Sebastian Pinera acknowledged “abuses” in the handling of massive social protests that have shaken the country for three weeks, but stopped short of blaming police or the military in an interview published Saturday in a local paper.
Pinera said any act of abuse would be investigated and prosecuted and that his government, the police and armed forces “have always had a commitment” to respect human rights, in the interview with Chilean daily El Mercurio.
Protests that began over a hike in metro fares quickly unraveled into violent riots, looting and arson, and eventually, mass protests demanding an end to social injustices and inequality. Clashes with police and military security forces have escalated
So, overall, South America looking a bit disturbed… though one is now resolved, maybe:
Of course, the NYT is presenting the win of a Leftist as a cause for celebration.
In Argentina Election, Leftists Savor Victory Over Incumbent
President Mauricio Macri was defeated by a ticket that included former President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner in the No. 2 spot.
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As I don’t like being tracked, and this is “my one”, and I don’t want you folks burning your “one” to see it, I’m quoting heavily from it (images left out as they are vapid pictures of politicians waving…)
BUENOS AIRES — Argentines on Sunday entrusted leftists to steer the nation as it reels from a deep recession, electing as president Alberto Fernández, a longtime political operative who toiled behind the scenes most of his career.
His victory was masterminded by former President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, a deeply polarizing leader who opted not to try for a comeback term as president, settling instead for the No. 2 spot on the ticket.
Throngs of supporters danced with joy outside the election headquarters of the Peronist leaders Sunday night.
With more than 80 percent of the ballots counted, Mr. Fernández had carved out a lead large enough to avoid a runoff with President Mauricio Macri, a center-right politician who failed to deliver on a promise that free-market policies would drive economic growth. Mr. Fernández was leading with more than 47 percent of the vote; Mr. Macri lagged behind with 41 percent.
Addressing cheering supporters shortly after 11 p.m., Mr. Fernández warned that the road ahead would be challenging, but struck a hopeful note.
“We’re going to build the Argentina we deserve,” he said, standing alongside a beaming Mrs. Kirchner. “It’s not the case that we are condemned to the present Argentina.”
But the president-elect has yet to outline a clear road map for pulling the economy out of the dumps and stabilizing the peso, which has been swinging wildly for months.
As Argentines headed to the polls on Sunday, many harbored hope that putting Peronists back in the presidential palace would be the first step to turn things around.
“Peronism always enabled socioeconomic mobility and a more equitable distribution of wealth,” said Leonardo Duva, 43, who is one of the owners of a restaurant and bar in the San Telmo neighborhood of Buenos Aires that pays homage to the past two Peronist presidents.
The outcome of the election had appeared clear for weeks: President Macri, a former mayor of Buenos Aires who pulled off an upset victory in 2015, was widely expected to lose his bid for re-election.
His downfall was set in motion last May when Mrs. Kirchner, who preceded Mr. Macri, announced an unexpected comeback plan.
Instead of running for president again, Mrs. Kirchner, who is facing trial in one of 11 graft cases filed against her, opted to run for vice president and tapped Mr. Fernández, a veteran political operator who has never run for major public office, to lead the ticket.
Mrs. Kirchner, a populist center-left leader who governed Argentina from 2007 to 2015, left office with a badly damaged political brand. As president she alienated leaders of several factions within the Peronist political movement and sparred with powerful business sectors and news organizations.
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But as Argentina’s economy plunged into a recession last year, she saw an opening to make a comeback. Maria Victoria Murillo, an Argentine political scientist at Columbia University, said Mrs. Kirchner appeared to have realized that she would have been too polarizing to win as a presidential candidate, and had burned too many bridges to govern effectively.
“She made a very smart calculation,” Ms. Murillo said. “She demonstrated a very interesting form of leadership.”
By picking Mr. Fernández to be her running mate, Mrs. Kirchner stunned the political establishment. Mr. Fernández, who served in several administrations in administrative jobs, had never signaled presidential aspirations, appearing more comfortable and effective working behind the scenes.
Besides a brief stint as a lawmaker in the city of Buenos Aires, Mr. Fernández has never held elected office, making him a rarity for modern Peronism, the movement that has dominated politics in Argentina since the 1940s. Named after Juan Domingo Perón, a military leader who ruled the country from 1946 until 1955, and then again from 1973 to 1974, the populist movement has swung right and left politically but has always claimed to be the guarantor of workers’ rights and social justice.
When Mrs. Kirchner’s predecessor and husband, Néstor Kirchner, was elected president in 2003, he appointed Mr. Fernández as his cabinet chief. It was a time of crisis. The country was reeling from the devastating 2001 economic collapse, during which Argentina defaulted on about $100 billion in debt.
Mr. Fernández stayed on briefly as cabinet chief when Mrs. Kirchner succeeded her husband in December 2007. But the two had a falling out, and Mr. Fernández became a withering critic of her leadership and her handling of the economy.
It’s the debt that eventually takes down nations. Here we see the usual Leftist approach of just repudiating the debt in action. There are folks who praise the economic performance of the early 2000s and ignore blowing off $100 Billion of debt. It is very easy to spend Other Poople’s Money and then repudiate the debt, but not repeatedly and often…
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When Mrs. Kirchner announced her bid to return to power in May, with Mr. Fernández at the top of the ticket, videos of him criticizing his running mate quickly spread through social media.
But efforts to discredit him failed, said Jorge Giacobbe, a pollster in Buenos Aires. In the primary election in August, Mr. Fernández trounced Mr. Macri by a 16 percent margin.
The main term voters associate with Mr. Fernández’s candidacy is “hope,” Mr. Giacobbe said.
Mr. Fernández, 60, a law professor who continued to teach as he campaigned for president, has projected an image of an ordinary man who takes pleasure in simple things like belting out rock classics while playing the guitar. Early on Election Day, he took his collie, Dylan — named after Bob Dylan — to a park where they played fetch.
Mr. Fernández has staked out more liberal positions than Mr. Macri on social issues. The most notable is Mr. Fernández’s support for decriminalizing abortion. He has a close relationship with his 24-year-old son, Estanislao, who is bisexual and has promoted his father’s candidacy during drag performances at venues in Buenos Aires.
On economic issues, Mr. Fernández is seen as more pragmatic than Mrs. Kirchner. She was criticized for distorting economic figures and building a patchwork of unsustainable subsidies that set the stage for the state’s insolvency when commodities prices dropped during her time in office.
Several voters said on Sunday that they felt they had no good options.
Gee. Doesn’t that sound familiar… Voters with “no good options”. What happens when The Controlling Interests give you a choice of their Right Hand Man or their Left Hand Woman…
“I have a tiny hope that something could change,” said Noelia Mirta Tassone, 42, as she left a polling station in the Palermo district of Buenos Aires. But her overriding feeling as she cast a ballot was one of hopelessness, she said.
“This is a country that stumbles into a crisis every 10 years, regardless of who is in power, said Ms. Tassone, who voted for Mr. Macri in 2015 but now wants him out. “I know they are all thieves, and I’m fed up of standing by while they all steal from me.”
Mr. Fernández has been vague about his plans to stabilize an economy mired in a deep recession amid rising inflation and the steady depreciation of the local currency. But political analysts and ordinary Argentines expect that he will adopt more protectionist policies than Mr. Macri, who has championed a free market approach.
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Among his top challenges will be coming up with a plan to restructure Argentina’s debt to private creditors and the International Monetary Fund, which last year approved a $57 billion line of credit for Argentina, a record for the fund.
Argentina’s debt obligations rose to 72 percent of gross domestic product this year from 41 percent in 2015, according to estimates by Elypsis, an economic consultancy in Buenos Aires.
Amid fears that the country may once again default on its loans, which would deepen its economic crisis, investors have been hastily offloading Argentine assets. On Friday, Argentines lined up at banks to buy dollars and withdraw cash from their accounts.
Despite its persistent economic woes, Argentina has so far been largely immune to the public upheaval that has rocked several countries in the region in recent weeks as frustrations over entrenched inequality and poor governance boiled over into public protests. Some analysts caution that Argentines may soon join the wave of upheaval.
“The expectations that are being placed on Alberto Fernández to improve the economy are high, and if he does not manage to do it a more anti-establishment feeling could suddenly start to appear,” warned Daniel Kerner, managing director for Latin America of the Eurasia Group. “The Argentine vote has to do with a promise of no more austerity, and I’m not sure he can keep that promise.”
Yet, on Friday night, the mood at Santa Evita, a restaurant in Buenos Aires popular among Peronists, the mood was ebullient as the political movement’s anthem blasted from the speakers. Patrons twirled white napkins in the air as they sang along: “Long live Perón, long live Perón!”
“There’s widespread joy,” said the manager, Florencia Barrientos. “People are very hopeful.”
So that’s likely enough for Who’s Your Prez for this posting. Yeah, there are more in play.
for example is polling far more Nationalist Right than ever before and
has Le Pen polling ahead of Macron.
So might well have even more changes in the coming months…
We’ve got some truely spectacular cold and snow events going on in the Midwest of the USA down to Texas, and on around the world. New Zealand having a return of winter weather when Spring ought to be happening. More on this in other postings, or for a detailed list just hit up:
Deep State Skate
No real change for last time. Continued rumors of “indictments Real Soon Now” and then nothing. What I said then, still holds:
And we’re still waiting and waiting… One reporter said the delay was that when they looked closely at some stuff, they found a much deeper root of criminality and decided to go round up that bit, too. I would like to see at least ONE perp-walk, just to know there’s something real happening.
Yeah, it is still “a thing” even if not top of the non-news MSM.
Latest numbers as of 30 October 2019
3268 Total cases
2182 Total deaths
Latest numbers as of 13 November 2019
3287 Total cases
2192 Total deaths
Only 19 new cases. That’s a great improvement. At this rate, I’ll be able to drop this section soon.
Fires in Australia and California
Both California and Australia are having our usual fires and burns. Mostly due to Left Wing / Green policies against fuel removal. Of course, The Pwned Media are trying to play this up as “Climate Change”. The climate has not changed. Just what people do to tend the forest and remove the fuels. Both places have loads of “Fire Adapted” species that depend on fire. We’ve had a “Fire Climate” for hundreds of thousands of years.
Even the paper from the Hard Alt Left San Francisco (who loves Pelosi and keeps electing her…) knows:
Why California burns — its forests have too many trees
By Thomas M. Bonnicksen Nov. 12, 2018 Updated: Nov. 12, 2018 9:22 p.m.
The reason wildfires are burning California with unprecedented ferocity this year is because our public forests are so thick. It is our fault. We don’t manage our forests, we just let them grow. That is the simple truth. However, it is easier to deny the truth and blame a warming climate instead of admitting our guilt and taking action to prevent wildfires.
Hot, dry weather doesn’t cause catastrophic wildfires. It only makes them worse. In order for any fire to burn, it must have fuel. To spread wildly, it must have abundant fuel. Efforts in the 20th century to prevent fire and preserve forests have been too successful — they have disrupted the ecological balance and allowed more and more trees to grow.
When you have lots of fuel in a dry place (it need not be hot…) you WILL eventually get fires. Lightning, arson, catalytic converters on cars in tall grass, campfires, cigarettes tossed from cars. Ignition sources are everywhere. It WILL burn.
The only thing you can control is the ferocity of it, by removing the fuel.
I’m sorry to see so much of Australia burning. The only consolation, really, is to point out it isn’t as big as the YSM (Yellow Stream Media) make it sound. They like using very small units so it sounds gigantic. Last I heard was something like 2.5 Million Acres. OMG that’s huge, or so it sounds. Not to belittle the tragedy, but for perspective: There are 640 acres in a square mile. So that’s 3906 square miles. Still a huge number. But what does that look like on the surface of Australia? That’s a space 62.5 miles on a side. About 100 km x 100 km. It would fit in California between the State Capitol in Sacramento and Oroville Dam and between the two mountain ranges with lots of room to spare. The California fires are much much smaller…
Australia is 7,692,024 km^2 per the wiki, so divide into 10,000 square km and you get 0.00130 of Australia is burned. 13/100 of a percent. A huge tragedy to those involved, but it isn’t like the whole place is on fire. Let the people clear trees and fuel from their properties, and it would be even better.