Australia Sex Ratio Covid

In the Dr. John Campbell update, toward the end, he cites reports of Australian data where they are NOT having more men than women getting Chinese Wuhan Covid. Strange, that. In Australia, it is loaded with sun and lots of similar genetics to the Uk. So why?

Got me thinking. Women in western countries are far more likely to take care of themselves. Men are much less likely to take a daily vitamin pill.

So speculating:

Might men in the UK be at higher risk of low Vit-D from not taking vitamin supplements, but women in Australia be lower from using sunscreen more religiously? The recommended daily dose is believed by many to be on the low side, so a bare minimum. But zero is lower in the UK, while men saying “screw it, it’s only a sunburn” in Australia would be at dramatically higher rates.

Seems to me a quick Vit-D assay by gender in both places could rapidly answer that. He talks about rates of dying in younger women, but the graph in question is “cases” not deaths. Deaths is the lower graph with more men than women dying, all older. So it is also possible they are finding wonen interact more closely and frequently with sources of infection. Shopping, children, personal care facilities.

I also note in passing the very low death rates in folks too young to be kept indoors in elder care facilities…

Australia Covid Cases & Deaths

Australia Covid Cases & Deaths

Australia coverage starts at about the 18 minute mark:

In other news, it looks like the question of ACE inhibitors and ARBs has been answered. Basically, don’t stop taking them.

Then to finish up, here’s a look at old folks home options, and just what kind of damage is done in those “mild” cases:

Professional divers getting their lung capacity tested, failing, and out of their career.

At about 14 minutes. Looks at the V.A. study that disses HCQ and finds no mention of zinc anywhere in their study. So what is it with these doctors who test a drug that slows or stops viral replication by getting zinc into the cells; but do it late in the illness AFTER massive replication and without zinc? Evil or ignorant?

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34 Responses to Australia Sex Ratio Covid

  1. Bill In Oz says:

    E M I have looked at the Dr Campbell video. Re Australian Wuhan Covid 19 cases & deaths, At first I have no idea why this gender ‘inbalance’ has happened in Australia.

    But it may be a consequence of the fact that a huge proportion of the infections in Australia have occurred on Cruise ships.( About 15 of them ). I wonder what proportion of passengers on these Cruise ships are female and what male ? As these cruise ships catered to the retired and older age groups, I suspect that these cruise ships had mostly female passengers. And thus the target group being infected mostly female. But without data from the Cruise ship companies I cannot be sure.

    More generally, Australia continues to crush the curve. Each day sees lower numbers of new infections. Here in South Australia our run of ‘Zero’ days ended with the discovery of new case yesterday. This was a young woman . who returned from overseas and went into quarantine. In quarantine she had very minor symptoms and did not report them. And so she was released from quarantine while still infectious,, I suspect there will be more here in SA from her close contacts.
    But that illustrates the issues involved. Maybe the quarantine period needs to be longer that 14 days especially with younger age groups.

    I see that autopsies are now showing that the first deaths in California happened in late January & early Feb. So looking back & remembering your posts & Larry’s comments from that time, you were completely right. .

  2. E.M.Smith says:

    A very good survey of HCQ studies & the garbage Orange Man Bad “news”:

    In short, using it early and right with zinc, works. Garbage studies and papers find garbage and then garbage MSM Fake News Political spin turns garbage into complete crap.

  3. philjourdan says:

    Lot of speculation, but not a lot of facts. With today’s pc culture, I doubt the facts will ever come out. So speculation is better than official proclamations. Or at least as good as.

  4. E.M.Smith says:

    @Bill In Oz:

    Given the massive cross Pacific flow between Silicon Valley and China, I figured it was likely here as soon as it was in the wild there. Thanks for the props!

  5. Bill In Oz says:

    I try to avoid making comments on the US of a political nature. But looking on from afar, one thing is very obvious : The Center For Disease Control ( your CDC ) has stuffed up hugely; In fact proved to be incompetent at it’s basic job. And as a result done the president a huge disservice that may impact votes in the November US elections.
    Whatever happens with Wuhan COVID disease in the USA in coming months, the CDC needs to cleaning up to make it excellent at it’s most basic task – preventing & controlling infectious diseases. I have . no idea how that could be accomplished. But it is needed. Can the president do this task ?

  6. E.M.Smith says:

    Laura does a great Take Down on the garbage HCQ survey pre-print and the YSM Yellow Stream Media that are killing people by touting it just to do dirty digs at Trump.

  7. YMMV says:

    @E.M.Smith 23 April 2020 at 12:13 am, “A very good survey of HCQ studies”
    (Dr. Chris Martenson) “”

    Great takedown of the VA study. I gather he also did an earlier video about the Santa Clara study — which he says has now been retracted, “statistical errors”.

  8. E.M.Smith says:


    Yeah, I really like his “Dig here!” style ;-) Same kind of thing I do with any appeal to authority. Bypass the “authority” angle and look at the facts myself… He’s careful and thorough. A nice combination. Also doesn’t tolerate fools much.

  9. A C Osborn says:

    I am glad people with more clout than me noticed the Zinc missing from the VA study.
    It does make you wonder if Doctors actually listen to or read anything other doctors say and write.
    Or is it a case of I know better I am a Doctor.

  10. rhoda klapp says:

    According to the State dashboards, Florida and Texas both have equal distribution of cases by gender. Somewhere there must be a preponderance of males to balance those states and come out with the 62-38 ratio seen overall.

  11. cdquarles says:

    Here is mine:, where I note the small numbers overall. I also note the small number of tests, which are geared toward people likely to have it in the first place. Thus far, more women than men have had confirmed cases. Of the fraction that have died, more men than women; which is expected. I know of at least one home health nurse that got it and spread it to patients. A fair fraction are people in nursing homes. I should note that in nursing homes, there are often more women residing there than men.

  12. E.M.Smith says:


    Hmmm…. Texas & Florida both very sunny places with climates like different parts of Australia.

    Maybe dark overcast places like the UK and the shade canyons of NYC are especially bad on men or women take their vitamins and it matters more there?

  13. cdquarles says:

    It is hard to say, though women do tend to take more interest in their health.

    It is quite rainy here, from November through May. That said, the sun is quite high in the sky now. The noon sun is about 20 degrees off the zenith here now, and is a bit more off the zenith in Huntsville and less in Mobile. Mobile has Mardi Gras, which was Feb 25th (older than New Orleans’, but smaller; as Mobile was the capital of French Louisiana before New Orleans was). The beaches are Mobile and Baldwin counties, yet Mobile is harder hit and the rate of growth is higher there recently, where Mobile County has a similar number of cases to Jefferson County (Birmingham), despite the county’s population being about 2/3rds of Jefferson’s. It is tailing off in Jefferson county.

    Generally, the larger counties population-wise were harder hit, with some of the surrounding smaller counties also hit hard; such as Lee (Auburn) as a larger county and Chambers as a smaller one, with Columbus Ga nearby, across the river. West Point, GA, is directly across the river (Chattahoochee) from Lafayette, AL.

  14. rhoda klapp says:

    Alabama cases go Women 57.48%, men 41.47%. I can’t even begin to guess why.

  15. cdquarles says:

    Given the small numbers, part of it is nursing home cases; since there are typically more women there than men. Partly medical care workers, since women are nurses far more frequently than men.

  16. Steve C says:

    I’m certainly beginning to wonder whether getting enough vitamins – particularly, it seems, vit D in winter – is a bigger factor than I’d thought. When I saw my doc late last year, she sent me off for a few “general checkup” tests (as they do when you get past 60). To my surprise (I’ve always been an “it’ll take care of itself” person, the stereotypical “bloke” attitude you mention), nearly everything was fine, except vitamin D, which should have tested 50+ but was 15. She prescribed some caps, 20,000IU in each, take one a week.

    So, this winter, I went into the flu season with a better prepared immune system: so far, the result has been that I, normally a hothouse of respiratory viral activity, am currently, perfectly healthily, looking around me at a world apparently gone mad. I’m keeping up the vitamins D (now at a more normal daily dose) and C, and given the results I’m definitely wondering now whether that’s all I needed to do when I was younger to avoid my “hothouse” experiences.

  17. Another Ian says:

    Corona virus muddling report

    “Delingpole: Why Must Coronavirus Decision Makers be Clouded in Secrecy?”

  18. Another Ian says:

    “The world watches Australia and NZ tracking to zero — can we extinguish Coronavirus?”

  19. Another Ian says:

    “Taiwan Raised the Alarm, the WHO & Democrats Ignored Them, and Trump is Blamed for Everything”

  20. tom0mason says:

    Over at Ron Clutz blog he has some info on oleandrin extract being examined as an anti-viral.

    Though often omitted from public conversations about pandemic solutions, the U.S. military has a huge stake in fighting deadly infectious diseases and quietly has been researching novel treatments for years at its secretive biodefense lab at Fort Detrick.
    The reasons are mission obvious. With soldiers deployed in exotic locations around the world where novel viruses like Ebola, Zika or bird and swine flus can strike with lighting speed and alarming fatality, the Pentagon wants to make sure it has treatments to keep its forces from being disabled.
    It’s from that body of research that an intriguing potential remedy, an organic extract, has emerged. And of all sources, it comes from the common but toxic flowering plant oleander.

    Dr. John Dye, chief of viral immunology at the USAMRIID lab at Fort Detrick, … “We found that at non-toxic concentrations, oleandrin was efficacious at slowing and halting viral growth in tissue culture assays” for the Ebola and Marburg viruses, Dye said in emailed answers to questions.

    Because those viruses are enveloped, just like COVID-19, the lab is pressing ahead to do similar tests on the theory that the extract may have similar effects on the coronavirus at the center of today’s pandemic, he said.

    More info at

  21. Bill In Oz says:

    But Trump suggesting that people should inject disinfectant is definitely not a good look.

    Here in Australia our national Chief Medical Officer started laughing when asked about this at a presser.But then quickly stopped and said he had no personal opinion as he had not actually heard Trump say this
    It was a laughing stock here in Oz. Clearly he is getting some poor advice.

  22. H.R. says:

    @Bill in Oz – Fake news. Trump said no such thing.

    The problem is, that’s what the YSM pushes. The truth of the matter doesn’t come out until later, after the lies of commission or omission have been corrected, but then again, the YSM either doesn’t correct their Fake News or buries any correction so deep that no one will ever notice.

    President Trump said no such thing.

    Sadly, you won’t get any corrections down underwhat unless you get them here. And I’m not sure what other US blogs you hang out on, but there are precious few that actually have a look at President Trump actually does or says.

  23. Terry Jackson says:

    Bill in Oz
    From Instapundit
    JOURNALISISMS: An object lesson in journalism from Google News’ headlines.

    Net, he asked what can we do with disinfectants, is there some way to use them in the body?

  24. ossqss says:

    If you want to watch the Trump statements on disinfectant, it is easily available. Albeit, he could have done a better job, he didn’t tell people to do anything. No different than when they said he told people to eat fish tank treatments.

    On that disinfectant subject, anyone remember the 80k mobile UV lamp hospitals were buying I put up a couple months ago?

    Mobile, on demand, UV disinfecting anyone? Just add electricity and a handtruck for steps.

    Heck, we could make a UV-Roomba!

  25. E.M.Smith says:

    Tim Pool does an analysis of the disinfectant comment. In context, Trump asked a reasonable QUESTION. Tim also finds that in fact hydrogen peroxide has been used “in the body”..

  26. Terry Jackson says:

    From Ann Althouse, law professor in Madison, Wisconsin.
    She has quotes, and her takeaway.

  27. Bill In Oz says:

    I just saw him on TV at a presser.
    And then I saw the second TV presser where he said he was being sarcastic.
    I think the dimocarts must be silently thanking their luck.
    And if they a ‘shut up’ completely strategy
    And just let Trump make a few more clangers,
    They will win your November elections.

  28. cdquarles says:

    Remember, folk, our bodies *make* hydrogen peroxide, nitric oxide, hypochlorous acid, superoxide radicals as well as other chemicals to attack invaders and limit the damage they cause.

    @ Bill,
    Democrats and the folk who believe the crap they spew have no clue how Trump uses them. Rush Limbaugh calls it using absurdity to highlight absurdity. Trump does *not* make clangers. He follows the Sun Tzu approach.

  29. E.M.Smith says:

    Trump is no dummy. You don’t graduate Wharton business school, or even get in, when stupid.

    Trump does something I call “leveling”. He is also a stage performer and has years of stage exprience. Now integrate.

    On stage he is working HIS audience. He sees the YSM “Press” as antagonistic useful idiots to play. The Sun Tzu reference is right. (He loved his time in a military style academy, loves war analogies. ) IMHO, what he does is Social Aikido. Using your opponents strengths and movement against them via offering a target they can not resist, then moving it in ways to have them fall.

    He simultaneously gets sympathy from his supporters and solidifies his support. Decades of talking to blue collar work crews lets him be relatable, identified as their kind of guy. This lets him capture the middle of the bell curve. Along with that, the Press takes the bait and runs with it. Then it gets shown how they lied first and with malice. The result? Thousands of media layoffs, plunging customer base, shot reputations. “Fake News” now an iconic brand.

    That ain’t dumb.

    Then look at him with global heads of state. Whole different dynamic. Or when “working the crowd” at upscale events. Personal attention. Assessing the person with engagement and respect. Glad handing with the best of them while building a “good relationship” as he assess them and their agendas.

    That ain’t dumb either.

    What throws folks, I think, is his disjoint speaking style. I had the modest fortune to grow up with it. My Dad would talk that way. Part of my ability at robust wordsmithing comes directly from my rebellion against that style. But about college age the penny dropped. I realized he was just speaking the few words needed that could be uttered in the time available. Verbal shorthand for a very fast mind.

    You don’t finish a sentence when the rest of it…

    Is obvious to you.

    Reflective listening is via fragments incorporating the context. “So disinfect… inject… like cleaning” touching a few key words from the prior speakers paragraph…

    IMHO it is evidence of integrated verbal and nonverbal brain hemispheres, the verbal taking crib notes on the way faster visual thinking nonverbal hemisphere as they cooperate. I “waste the time” to do a more complete decode most of the time , but when time is critical, drop the decode step and skip over most words. Time speed optim…

    When that Fast Think is blended with Average Guy leveling, it is easily seen as “looks stupid to me” by folks unfamiliar with it. Those “elite wannabes” of journalism school can’t imagine that Crib Speak is really Fast Think and not just Stoopid. They can’t imagine Trump is looking right at them, answering their challenge question, but really speaking directly to Joe Sixpack about how stupid and corrupt the media are.

    So Trump winds up the media, they run around screeching Orange Man Bad! hair on fire, faces red with rage, and Trump smiles a bit over the Fake News while Joe Sixpack pops another tab and enjoys the show. This is WWE / old WWF “show” in the political venue. Trump slams Accosta to the floor and the audience in Trumpville love it.

    That ain’t dumb either…. it’s just mixing fun with a great business model.

    Then the fact that the WWE crowd “get it” and the Media & Dimocrates don’t have a clue, well now, that’s just gravy on top…

  30. A C Osborn says:

    His mention of using Ultra Violet Light suggests that he is aware the Columbia Uni have developed a “Far UV Light” that kills airborne a surface Viruses.

    It is safe to use on Human skin & eyes.

  31. cdquarles says:

    I am going to drop this here, too: The treatment that time forgot ;p.

  32. A C Osborn says:

    CDQ, yes I found that one too, you beat me to posting it LOL.

  33. Compu Gator says:

    E.M.Smith replied 25 April 2020 at 2:29 pm GMT:
    Trump is no dummy. You don’t graduate Wharton business school, or even get in, when stupid.

    Unlike some famous U.S. politicians, Donald Trump could not have been a legacy admission to the very highly ranked Wharton (Business) School of the University of Pennsylvania. Many people don’t realize that “Penn” is a member of the Ivy League, and a private institution, not a state university. Donald graduated with a B.S. in Economics in May 1968.

    Compare the education of his father Fred after high school, which consisted of an industrious combination of night classes, correspondence courses, and classes at his home-borough Brooklyn’s Pratt Institute, was then only a ‘technical school’, albeit a very highly regarded one.

    Details above are from the obvious Wikipedia Web pages.

  34. YMMV says:

    This one is new to me, perhaps because Trump hasn’t mentioned it?

    “Bemcentinib has previously been reported to exhibit potent anti-viral activity in preclinical models against several enveloped viruses, including Ebola and Zika virus. Recent data have expanded this to SARS-CoV-2.”

    “AXL kinase, a cell membrane receptor, is essential for mediating biological mechanisms of life-threatening diseases. AXL suppresses the body’s immune response to cancer tumors, leading to failure with many cancer treatments. Bemcentinib is a first-in-class selective AXL inhibitor, and this agent could potentially address a significant unmet medical need.”

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