Early Tipple, no BANG! Report

Bang! Seller Report

Found a Bass Pro Shop one or two cities over. Checked out the gun department.

Out of 10 long gun display racks, only 1 1/2 racks had any guns in them (and many of those looked like .22 or other non-defense guns). The hand gun display cases were about 1/2 full, but it looked heavy on revolvers, snub nose, and .22 things. This in The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia where jumping through gun buying hoops is a royal PITA.

Clearly the stories of guns being bought up everywhere has much truth in it.

Confirmed Knowing: If you wait until the AwShit to buy a gun, you will not have a gun. Buy early and prepare. The time to buy a gun is when there is no need to buy a gun.

So figure a few months for manufacturing and distribution to catch up with demand. In the meantime, I’m getting my reloading equipment cleaned and set up (since Kalifornia has a law forbidding ammo sales unless you have a gun buy recorded to you at your current address… Can you say back door gun registration?). I have enough in box already, but too many empties just sitting around. Might as well assemble the parts.

Tipple Du Jour

I stopped by Wines Of The World and scored several bottles from Australia. Oddly, there was more from New Zealand than Australia, especially in whites.

I know it isn’t yet Friday in Australia, but I couldn’t wait ;-)

The bottle tonight is “Martin’s Pickup” Shiraz. Softer than the prior Shiraz. A competant wine, nice flavors, and just a bit tannic. The fruit overtones are pleasant, but I don’t get the specific notes they list on the lable. The bottle description is:

This smooth Shiraz is filled with generouse fruit flavors, richness and complimented by subtile tannins with a dark chocolate and cherry finish. The aroma is a vibrant mix of dark cherties, blueberries, with hints of violets and white pepper.

I’d not completely disagree with that, but to me the fruit overtones in taste and aroma are less specifically tied to those specifics.

To me, it is a nice drinkable red, with good fruit and enough tannin to go with lasagna, but not so much you cringe with baked potato.

I’d not drink it with desert! Way too dry for that… But it would even go with a hamburger and fries! Though frankly, I wish I had some lamb with it.

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21 Responses to Early Tipple, no BANG! Report

  1. Graeme No.3 says:

    How was the Coopers Ale?
    There was a story many years ago. SA Brewing dominated the local market but were afraid of Carlton United (Fosters Lager et.al) coming into the State, so they started buying up the local hotels or ‘tying them to contracts’.
    Come one Wed. the GM & Marketing Manager (who had thought up the idea) of SA Brewing had an appointment with Tom Cooper, then head of (family owned) Coopers, and told him that from the following Monday none of their pubs would sell any Coopers products.
    The idea was that the increased volume would compensate for the cost of the buyout.
    Tom Cooper sadly shook his head and said “So, that’s why you were paying such inflated prices for hotels. We wondered, but we couldn’t have competed. Why we only had enough money to buy the (local monopoly) malt supplier”.
    Shortly after an emergency Board meeting at SA Brewing it was decided that they would buy a share in Coopers (exchanging shares with Coopers) and that Cooper’s products would be welcome in all their hotels. There was also a couple of sudden vacancies at the top of SA Brewing.
    Coopers kept on their way, sticking to their old ways (although introducing new products and going into export). SA Brewing has disappeared.

  2. H.R. says:

    Great story, Graeme No.3. Thanks.

    There’s a lesson in there. You don’t really have to own all the cows if you own the only bull.

  3. spetzer86 says:

    Midwest gun stores report things moving out almost as soon as they show up. One local store recently had two Sig P365’s coming in and both were sold the day they were delivered. Neither unit made it to the display cabinet.

  4. corev says:

    As a sign of the times, my 72YO wife is taking her 1st ever shooting course this weekend. She is planning on buying a S&W snubby with laser sight.

  5. E.M.Smith says:


    You might want to review my posting on short barrel ballistics.
    Short Barrel? Short Cartridge!

    You might also look at 9mm revolvers:

    I’d rather see a 3 inch barrel than a 1.5 inch, but the 5 round small guns fit in a purse well and can be light at about 18 ounces.

    @Graeme No. 3:

    Loved the Coopers! It will be my “goto” beer for a good while.


    Nice report. So nation wide.

    The stupid thing in using the European Color Revolution riot playbook in the USA is that the USA has a huge percentage of “silent majority” types, “clinging to their guns & religion” and familiar with depending on themselves. They just prepare to do what needs doing. By voting if possible (and not answering crooked pollsters), but by self reliance if necessary.

    So no rioter will make it into my home to destroy things and hurt people. But at the same time, I don’t care at all if they riot in the Democratic Center down town or destroy statues.

    BTW, the destruction of old Confederate statues is just starting a big slow burn in Southerners. They see it as just more Northern Oppression like the War Of Northern Aggression. The peace was held by recognizing the bravery and valor of the Confederate Soldiers, but accepting their defeat. For many, this is the memory of their ancestry by proxy. Denigrating folks family doesn’t sit well in the South. The attitude is more “He may be a mean old bastard, but he’s family”.

    I expect Trump will easily carry the South… as the Southerners will know who hates their family.

  6. H.R. says:

    @Corev – If your wife has the opportunity to rent a few guns at the range to try, I’d recommend she try the Sig Sauer P238, which is what my wife uses; a .380 auto, hammer-fired.

    My wife had a stroke in 2008 and her left side/left hand is weak. Still, she has no problem racking the slide. It’s every bit as light as the snubby and is easy to shoot with high accuracy. There’s virtually no kick. She also took off the laser sight that came with it. It slows her down as she looks for the dot and she has no fall-off in accuracy. While I’m rapidly putting slugs in a 9″ pie plate area, she’s putting slugs in an area the size of a deck of cards.

    That said, the one thing going for the snubby is that for someone who is not familiar with a lot of different guns, a revolver is the simplest to understand and feel that one can operate it safely. You can see if it’s loaded by peeking at the cylinder for the cartridge rims or just flip open the cylinder and check. There are no buttons to remember (safety vs slide release) and no slides to try to remember to keep your fingers away from.

    We have a .38 Chiefs Special and I consider it pretty much a belly gun. It’s hard for someone who doesn’t practice nearly daily with one to hit much of anything beyond about 6-8 feet. And consider what I wrote about the laser above; if you take the time to look at where the dot is, that’s a split second lost before pulling the trigger.

    Also, since she has been taking classes, she may have been coached well enough to put a slug into a torso very quickly out to about 12 feet. So if she’s already comfortable and confident with the snubby with a laser, then that may be the way to go. Even though you’re not getting full power out of the cartridge, as pointed out in E.M.’s links, most people still dislike getting shot. Sometimes, it’s just as important to have something you are confident with and shoot very, very well, even if it is a bit shy of a .454 Casull ;o)

    BTW, sometimes I grab our snubby as a pocket gun, particularly in cool weather when I have a mid-weight coat on. All I have to do is put my hand in my pocket, wait till someone gets close, and shoot; no draw and fire needed. (Not gonna discuss here having the right pockets that will not hang up the hammer.)

  7. corev says:

    E.M. and H.R., thanks for the advice. I read with great interest the articles. We have looked at the semi-autos and the revolvers, and she keeps going back to that snubby. :-) My wife is very small/short, <5 feet, with small hands. So fitting into her hand comfortably is a major factor. Even the EZ rack versions of the autos was difficult for her.

    They will first shoot 22s in the class and we will see how she does after that experience. This will be her 1st time to shoot a hand gun, ever.

  8. H.R. says:

    @corev – Ah… so she hasn’t shot anything yet.

    I have a .357 magnum revolver. It has a 6″ barrel. I’ve let several women shoot it. They are intimidated by it because “It’s a .357 mag!” Once they shoot it, two-handed of course, they love it. That 6″ barrel eats up a lot of recoil.

    Anyhow, once your wife shoots a .22 and finds out they don’t bite, she can try a .38 snubby, which will have a bit of recoil because it’s a fairly stout round in a minimal frame and barrel. But I doubt that it will bother her once she get’s past the idea that every gun goes backwards a bit when the bullet starts going forward; from next to nothing with a .22 to WHOA! with a .500 magnum.

    I do get it about the feel of the grip and distance to the trigger. Those snubbies are really great for very small hands. So again I still say that the best gun for her is one that she loves to shoot, has no reluctance pulling the trigger, and gets effective results (center mass shots). That’s the right gun.

  9. E.M.Smith says:

    You might want to check out .32 snub noses. Choice of 4 rounds of increasing power so she can adjust the ‘kick’ to her liking. Power from similar to .22 up to more than a .38 Special.


    Plus you get 6 rounds in the compact revolver instead of 5. (Full sized revolvers can be 7 or even 9 shots)

  10. H.R. says:

    I checked for .32 cal snubbies online and they are really cool. I could go for one of those.

    However, I’m mowing, so short on time, so the three gun sites I managed to check out were sold out.

    Ammo was available. That’s good.

  11. E.M.Smith says:

    I probaly ought to also mention that the old .38 Colt rounds (long or short) will fire from a .38 Special or .357 Magnum just fine too (though getting them might take some looking).

    This guy (and the wiki) say .38 S&W ought not be fired in a .38 Special due to the bullet being .361 instead of .357 so 4/1000 larger. Case is .3855 to .3865 instead of .379 or about 8/1000 larger

    Yet his own drawings show the long colt also with a .361 bullet and everyone says it is fine to shoot in a .38 Special. Go figure.

    FWIW, I have shot a box of .38 S&W in my big Ruger revolver with no problems at all. Lead round nose bullet in a magnum rated gun was easily swaged on the way down the forcing cone. Cylinder was loose enough to easily take the rounds. I’d likely not try it in an aluminum or polymer gun or one with the minimal sized cylinder just out of paranoia, but wanted to test the EOTWAWKI potential. I’d also stick with lead and not hard jacketed, again from paranoia more than reality.

    The .38 Long Colt has been kept alive in cowboy action shooting circles, so available as a low power round if desired:

    The .38 Long Colt was introduced as a black powder cartridge in 1875 by Colt; many years later, in 1892, it was standardized by the United States Army and used until the early 1900s. Although not particularly successful in its military role, .38 Long Colt ammo works well on the range due to its low recoil. Needless to say, modern .38 LC ammunition uses smokeless powder and non-corrosive primers.

    A typical .38 LC load fires a 125-150 grain lead bullet at a muzzle velocity of about 800 feet per second. Cowboy action loads that are somewhat less powerful offer excellent performance and minimal recoil for accuracy-oriented steel target shooting. 38 long colt ammunition can be had from a variety of manufacturers including Ultramax and Black Hills.

    $32 a box but I’d bet you can find cheaper by asking around at cowboy events… Or just reload your own. Low end reloading gear that works fine is about 3 boxes at that price… You don’t need a fancy 5 station progressive press if doing just one box instead of 20…

    The point being that low power soft shooting rounds are not limited to the .32 revolver. You can get them in .38 with a bit of looking and ignoring a couple of thousandths. The .32 are all the same diameter so no complexity there.

    Oh, and if you do reloading, you can make your own lower power .38 Specials, if she needs less kick. But you will find that out in class / practice.

  12. E.M.Smith says:


    Yes… I’m fighting the urge to get a .327 Magnum revolver and Henry lever gun combo…

    I just do not have any need at all for another gun… no matter how functional, or comfortable, or pretty in brass…

  13. corev says:

    E.M., I agree, “I just do not have any need at all for another gun… no matter how functional, or comfortable, or .…” She, OTH, may just be starting. :-)

  14. ossqss says:

    I would offer this. Revolvers don’t jam. If you don’t plan on putting a bunch of rounds out, just sayin.

  15. ossqss says:

    This is one of mine. I use PDX1 and colt long in the mix, let alone all the other 410 shots.. Gives you an idea. Gotta wait for the PDX.

    Nothing like real testing.

  16. E.M.Smith says:

    I’d love to own a Judge, those big old .45s are a kick….

  17. corev says:

    A judge was OK for her substantial husband, but for an elderly woman not so much.

  18. corev says:

    She completed her firearms course yesterday, and was pumped. The final findings were that she had hands too small to handle most firearms. Which obviously also limits the calibers for which she can be effective. She did say that firing the 1st shot, even with blanks, made her jump.

    As a sign of the times, his was the largest class this relatively new training facility, 1+ YO, had ever had, and it was nearly 1/2 full with women.

  19. H.R. says:

    @corev – The Mrs. will get used to the bang, if she already hasn’t after the first time she pulled the trigger.

    OK, she has really small hands. Still. it goes back to the fact that most people dislike getting shot so anything she can shoot well will likely get the job done and is far better than just scolding a bad guy.

    So… the Mrs. liked it. She’ll enjoy going to the range with you and practicing to get better and better results. Or maybe she’ll go to the range with her lady friends, they’ll each fire off a hundred or so rounds, and then they can all go out for coffee or tea and blueberry muffins. Shooting; it’s the new book club ;o)

    You sound very pleased with her efforts, corev. It has also probably given you a bit of peace of mind knowing she isn’t defenseless now.

    Update us if she turns out to be the next Annie Oakley. That would be fun to hear about.

  20. E.M.Smith says:

    Next stop, the gun store to grab various grips and see what feels good to her.

    FWIW, very small semi-autos in .32 ACP and .380 ACP exist and are quite effective enough. Similarly, the small frame revolverd can have extra small grips installed.

    Note the ones in Pink:


    Or a classic:

  21. E.M.Smith says:

    Wow! Prices have gone up! $750 at Cabellas with a exposed hammer in .357 Mag:

    I’m not keen on double action only. Repeated hard trigger pulls send bullets less straight.

    I think I saw one at about 1/2 that at another site….

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