Antifa Experiences The Midwest

Watch it while you can…

The first 10 minutes or so is slow to start. A lot of time being redundant about how ya gotta grow a set to do this. Then he finally gets into what “this” is. At 16 minutes details arrive.

Some town in Western N.Dakota I think. Got wind Antifa and worse were going to cause trouble.

A whole bunch of locals, veterans, and bikers, coordinating with the police, did full load out kit (rifles, pistols, body armour, etc.) This included night vision gear, drones, and guys posted to rooftops. Some plain clothes in cafes and such gathering Intel & photos.

Whenever an Antifa cell would case a place and get ready to hit it, the militia guys would come out of the shadows to talk… and Antifa would run off. In one case 2 Antifa with “rifles” were suddenly looking at 2 militia guys (more in the shadows with IR)… turns out their rifles were airsoft guns. Those LARPer Antifa were very lucky the locals were very experienced at gun identification ’cause the locals had the real deal.

Interesting tactical bits:

The Antifa folks case the place the day before. Small towns know everyone so they will be very obvious. Then watch for deliveries of bricks and bottles. If anyone applies for a protest permit, start your counter surveillance.

They arrived in busses with blackout windows. So put spotters on roads in with communications.

After the “protest” part, Antifa in Blac Block uniform split off into small bands to do distributed assaults. So put a fleet of your guys as mobile monitors on bikes to keep tabs, drones help, IR Night gear is very useful, and when they start doing their set up (digging in bags for paint cans and hammers) your guys show up in more numbers and politely ask them what’s up. Having superior numbers already well positioned helps, as do spotters on roofs.

Coordinate with your local police if not in a Democrat Socialist Utopia (I.e. urban 2A hostile asshats).

A more rough group does not mix with the Antifa or protestors but monitored from a restaurant. Then went out to do the big jobs as Antifa scattered in teams. Put someone “uninteresting” in plain clothes w/cell recorder in likely venues along the “protest” route. Capture faces & plates.

I’m sure hoping what this guy describes is accurate and not a ploy. It does match stuff I’d expect the Red Necks in my old home town to do. While I was not part of any group, I was ready to take to the street in my present town, if needed. I’d planned just simple “castle defense”, but was ready to join up with neighbors if anything broke out. Luckily, nothing happened here.

The rioters have no idea what it is like outside the big cities. Even just in the suburbs. Arriving in BUSSES!? Hell, I’ve got one car in brown drab with emergency gear in it and a gun bag ready for bugout. Airsoft rifles? Just enough to give your opponent a good legal answer for why they shot you. Blac Block uniforms so everyone knows who is trouble? Oh, please. Try business casual under a camo hunting jumpsuit w/boonie hat. I disapear in the bushes but in 10 seconds and one zipper become a casual citizen bystander.

So it looks like they have money and organizing behind them, but not much actual skill nor nerve if not in a mob pack on one guy. So prep, watch for the scouts, then overmatch in numbers, tactics, situational awareness / surveillance, and attitide / skill. Helpful to know your local police or citizens militia group.

When I last lived in Florida, it was in Polk County. There’s video of the Sheriff, Judd Grady, warning anyone coming to his county that the folks have guns and he encourages them to use guns. If you’ve not seen it, I encourage a look. It clarifies the attitude in Red Counties a great deal.

The Democrats can let their major blue urban core be looted and burned by ordering a police stand down, but that won’t fly in the rest of the country. All those County Sheriffs in all those red counties and all their citizens ready to back them up, well, they have different ideas.

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38 Responses to Antifa Experiences The Midwest

  1. p.g.sharrow says:

    You get into the cow counties and the militia is a real thing. volunteer fire fighters, back up for the Sheriff deputies, Block watch etc. and they know the locals as well as out of towners. You can’t hide where everyone knows everyone.

  2. E.M.Smith says:

    Yeah, like my old home town. As Eagle Scouts, our troup was used as traffic control at the jamboree and while in high school, I was used as a diver to look for a drowned kid in an irrigation canal ’cause I was a good swimmer with the gear and the police were short of divers. Our fire dept. was all volunteer too.

    Anyone lost, or search needed, the sheriff or police would come to our restaurant and call for volunteers for a possee. Ah, the good old days ;-) I ought to still have my uniform somewhere… as a law enforcement post, we had special uniformes based on the Air Force Police base with our patches.

    Sheriff’s wife was in the reserves as were most cop’s spouses (got a carry permit & badge ;-)

  3. jim2 says:

    Incidents of vandalism were committed downtown, and we saw Alamo Plaza become a fulcrum of protest and unrest. For facets of our community, the Alamo symbolizes many uncomfortable truths of our history: colonialism, slavery, civil rights and the fight for Texas independence. We see this because the plaza has long been a place where people assemble in solidarity to voice their grievances, and a recent Saturday night was no exception.

    What was exceptional was the large number of heavily armed civilians, members and supporters of This Is Texas Freedom Force, who took it upon themselves to “defend” the Alamo and the Cenotaph. This “defense” was not called for or welcomed, nor was it needed. It was dangerous, and these individuals are not deserving of praise; they are deserving of scorn. With their vitriol, inflammatory words and, most dangerously, their firearms, they risk not only their lives but the lives of others.

    While a large group of people gathered asking that safety not be a privilege to just some — and did so in a peaceful, dignified manner — they were met with a group heavily equipped with firearms, declaring their own insensitive agenda. This contrasting illustration of the two organized events is proof of the vital need for peace and healing in our country — and, more importantly, our city.

    https://www.expressnews.com/opinion/commentary/article/Trevi-o-Push-back-at-the-Alamo-for-the-truth-15330591.php

  4. jim2 says:

    Bush’s full statement reads: “The Alamo is the Shrine of Texas Liberty. And it will be defended. My office is closely watching the social media posts and rumors from protestors who are threatening to come to the Alamo. Rest assured we have already deployed, for several weeks and will continue to do so, the Alamo Rangers in partnership with SAPD, The Department of Public Safety and The National Guard to protect this sacred site. My message to the protestors is simple: Don’t mess with The Alamo.”

    https://myfox8.com/news/dont-mess-with-the-alamo-texas-officials-plan-to-protect-historic-site-from-protesters/

  5. jim2 says:

    That first post was included to show the idiots were butt-hurt but controlled. The Alamo is intact!

  6. E.M.Smith says:

    @Jim2:

    I added blockquote around the article quoted text so it is clear it isn’t your words, but the media paper guy.

    Yeah, they want to “name & shame” citizens with guns. Yeah they want to sow fear of citizen militia and possee.

    But it isn’t working anymore. The time of choosing sides is largly ended. A huge chunk of the citizenry has chosen “not in my home”.

    It has generally been my experience that police like the backup and support (provided they know it is real). I once was watching a cop deal with a problem guy. He gave me the “You gonba be a problem?” Look. I just said “Let me know if you need anything.” and stood at relaxed ready. He was visibly a bit more relaxed and able to focus more fully on the perp on the ground.

    Sometimes they have said no and I’ve turned away.

    That was before the ubiquitous cell phone paparazzi, so may get a different reception now. Then again, I’d likely now be standing facing the crowd and away from the cop.

    Especially in rural areas, the police know their population and who is with them.

    Leftist newspaper reporters can try to spin it all they want, but the locals know the Alamo Defenders were there with the police, not against them. The police knew that too. In many cases, the militia guys are off duty cops or firefighters or family & friends or guardsmen who know each other.

    Also police can spot the folks with proper gun handling discipline. They can see who has training and focus. That is implied “I’m trained & on your side” and they see that. “Military demeanor” is a friend of the blue line.

    One key bit is the militia guys will check in with police to arrange coordination and assure intent. Police are cool with that in red counties (see Polk Co. Sheriff) but in highly indoctrinated blue urban core does get you grief (so there folks tend to more personal defence, less public).

    This is the reality the radical nutbars will face when they leave their Blue Urban Safe Zone…

    As I live in a very blue zone Kalifornia, my camo & vest stay home (along with the bushes where it is useful). I’m buying a black hoodie to put in the car so I can put on their uniform if needed to stay safe. I also have a disguised hard hat and rapid assembly defensive weapon (from benign parts) in the car. Why? Because I’ll not be a passive victim. Side chosen, action decided. Now what do you think folks in Polk are ready to do? Or Texas? A quiet resolve.

    (Here, the only effective attack was on cars on a stopped freeway, breaking car windows & beating people, so that’s where I’ve added defense prep.)

    They interpret quiet as weak. It isn’t. It is fire discipline and planning. You see nothing until bad events have gone too far, then you get walloped and they always seem so surprised about it. A whole lot of the country, red counties especially, are very quiet. But some are starting to form visible lines…

  7. E.M.Smith says:

    Some interesting video clips in this thread / comments:

    https://conservativehardliner.com/antifa-hilariously-failing-suburbs

    It isnt just in N.Dakota or Polk County.

    A group in Yucaipa California drives some Antifa wanbabees ouf of town. (Conservative area inland from L.A.) suburbs of Seattle with armed citizen street. What looks like a Carolina neighborhood with a line of armed residents along the wall around their development, watching the protest march walk by (most quiet “protest” I’ve seen in decades… guess why.) Even Huntington Beach California (coastal, rich, and pretty lliberal left) shouting the Antifa folks out of their space.

    We’re all pretty well agreed on a few things. Riot is not protest. No riot in my town. No threat in my home & neighborhood. It’s up to me and my neighbors. We’ve had enough. Outside agitators go home to your blue city “safe space” burned out urban core, you created it to your liking, now live in it. “Revolution” and riot not welcone here and will be stopped. Peacefully if possible…

  8. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh my, the memes are coming:

  9. E.M.Smith says:

    Looks like he has a lot of them. This one is a real putdown to the Soyboy LARPers:

    More here:

    https://conservativehardliner.com/memes

  10. p.g.sharrow says:

    Ironic, that they are all wearing the tribal colors of African Slavers.

  11. E.M.Smith says:

    Ironic? Or just honoring their past business relationship with them?

    ;-)

  12. John Robertson says:

    Here we see the difference between Police and Democrat Minions.
    Real Police stand with their community.
    Democrat Minions stand down as ordered.
    Our progressive comrades insist we use the term “police” to describe their army of minions,which they have carefully spent 40 years grooming.

    We might consider dubbing the Democrat Enclave forces DMs just to bug the Democrats.

  13. philjourdan says:

    Ironic? Or just honoring their past business relationship with them?

    ;-)

    Where is that “zing” button?

    The “wave” is hitting the core. And it is crashing on it. The straw was “silence is Violence”. The silence is deafening in its rebuttal.

  14. Scissor says:

    I like this lady’s discussion.

  15. Another Ian says:

    I think this fits here if I use a /s?

    “Everyone knows idiots like these”

    https://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/06/16/everyone-knows-idiots-like-these/

  16. E.M.Smith says:

    From Another Ian-s link…

  17. gallopingcamel says:

    In 1986 I moved to Holland Township, New Jersey. Back then people would leave produce on tables and citizens would put money in an unlocked box. This worked because nobody considered stealing the produce or the money.

    Then my next door neighbor decided to take a two week vacation. “Will you feed my cat” he asked? “Sure, just give me a key to your house” said I. You won’t need one since we never lock our doors!

    A couple of years later some city hoodlums decided to take advantage of this situation. They only managed to rob a couple of houses before they were noticed and the cops picked them up.

  18. ossqss says:

    When does the sound of silence stop?

  19. E.M.Smith says:

    Saw a video of about 3 Antifa preparing to cause trouble.

    They had parked in front of a person’s home. He noticed and came out recording.

    Key points:

    Only 2 people were outside the car, others still inside. The girl concentrated on standing in front of the resident to block his filming and distract him. Nobody answered his questions.

    It looked like they had gotten gear out of the trunk. The guy was swapping the license plate. Mostly the questions asked were about why he was changing the plate.

    They were in a VERY nice and VERY new looking Mercedes. This is a couple of rich kids in mom’s car. Or a high end rental on Soros money.

    This was happening in an upper middle class residential area, not urban (but I’d guess near the target area)

    Conclusions:

    They are swapping plates to hide identity. Police ought to pay special attention to running plates in at risk areas. Plates not matching the vehicle description need inspection… Citizens need to check that all their vehicles have plates and report theft of plates promptly.

    High end vehicles with a younger cohort in them, out of place in the area, are suspect. Run that plate. And not just wants & warrants, but check make, model, color, year… If they are wearing black, especially. Have parking enforcement run plates too. If more cars than usual are in an area near a protest route, run those plates.

    Plates not matching car, or stolen plates are both an illegal act and probable cause to search and detain.

  20. cdquarles says:

    Here, if you are not careful, having plates on a car that matches a stolen car *will* get you stopped; even if the car that was stolen was your car and the car that you are in is your car.

  21. H.R. says:

    I saw this list on Tucker last night. It’s suggested names for CHAZ CHOP.

    My favorite was “Soyviet Union.” (Hope the link is good. I cut off everything after ‘jpeg.’

  22. E.M.Smith says:

    I was able to get the image via using the url after it “checked my browser”. I especially liked Wokidishu and Antifastan.

    As they are doing something “trick” that makes image handling there a pain, after some PITA, I saved a copy here and will add that url to your comment.

  23. H.R. says:

    I like Wokadishu, too, E.M., although reading Yemen & Women for the third time has started me chuckling.

    Thanks, E.M.

  24. ossqss says:

    I kinda like the one Willis put up “Soymalia”.

    I think an adaptation of one above might be better. Antifascistan…

    Or maybe Granolastan…..

  25. Another Ian says:

    I guess you could say in hindsight that most “workers paradises” have been somewhere else

  26. H.R. says:

    @Another Ian – That Richardson Post article was excellent. Mostly observation, some opinion, and the conclusions lead to predictions that probably won’t be far off.

    One thing I think the author missed; the black Americans who are walking away from the Democrat Plantation are being replaced by dumb, indoctrinated white kids. I don’t have a clue how those numbers would look but perhaps there are more black Americans waking up than white kids being brainwashed. We’ll see.

  27. H.R. says:

    @Ossqss – Granolastan… Like!

    Is the Capital named after the Greek city Acidophilus? ;o)

  28. philjourdan says:

    Comment I made elsewhere – the rape of the black community was twofold. The first was the death of George FLoyd. And the whole nation was outraged and justifiably so.

    The second was the rape, rioting, looting and destruction of the black communities by the white liberal elite. They not only destroyed black businesses, they destroyed the poor’s ability to find affordable health care, food and clothing. That was not done by angry blacks! that was done by petulant whites from gated communities who called themselves antifa.

    But BLM welcomed them in to commit the atrocities. And corporate American condoned the atrocities. And the victims – are ignored.

  29. Ed Forbes says:

    Mid West meets BLM.
    .
    https://nypost.com/2020/06/17/black-lives-matter-protester-sucker-punched-as-bikers-overwhelm-rally/
    .
    “ A small Black Lives Matter rally in an Ohio village was overwhelmed by hundreds of armed bikers, disturbing video shows….
    .
    “.. the Black Lives rally ended up getting 80 people — but was totally overwhelmed by up to 800 counter-protesters, with at least 250 motorbikes parked nearby, village officials said..
    .
    “.. we were outnumbered many times with people having more weapons than the officers do..

  30. philjourdan says:

    @Ed – The silent majority is getting tired of being silent.

  31. E.M.Smith says:

    When the Government has abrogated their responsibility to provide security and justice, to give in to Mob Rule, it does not take long for folks to realize they just need to make a Bigger Mob.

    This either gets fixed or prepare to be in mob warfare.

    I’m not (quite / yet) ready to join a mob in defense, but I’m on the cusp. I still hope for sanity and a Trump win in November, but if necessary, I’m ready to find a back woods county in deep red country and build a bunker.

  32. ossqss says:

    Everyone, including the protester type’s families, feel threatened by what is happening. This is no time to hide views on observations everyone sees. If you hide, you capitulate. I welcome discussion, no matter the participants in my hood or at a store. Most folks don’t really know the Paul Harvey “rest of the story” on most subject matters. Including our current batch.

    I have encouraged folks to look at the FBI crime stats, testing data deep dives on our CV19, even the Polar bear data :-)

    We are not in a win or lose scenario, just sayin.

  33. Jason Calley says:

    Hey Ed Forbes! From the NYPost article you linked to: “A man in a bandanna then came up behind Reardon and sucker-punched him in the head”.

    Sucker punched? Sucker punched?! How dare they say that! It was just a game! You know…the NYPost always called it “the knock out game” in the past. Why was it a “game” before, but now it is a “sucker-punch”? Seems vaguely like some sort of double standard.

  34. YMMV says:

    If new rules let the police be sued, then policemen will need some sort of liability insurance. That could be expensive, you think? If they could get it at all.

    Back around the first “summer of love”, the Rolling Stones tried using community security — not that using official police would have worked any better.

    Is it possible for a police force dedicated to public order to carry out their duties when working with communities who see them as an invading army and respond with appropriate hostility?
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/06/is_it_time_to_establish_francestyle_nogo_zones_in_united_states_cities.html

  35. philjourdan says:

    @YMMV – they used Hell’s Angels as security. And it turned out just as any rational person would expect.

    I have never liked the Rolling Stones because they never seemed to be very intelligent.

  36. YMMV says:

    @philjourdan, I’d like to know more. Here is what I know, the full movie. It’s actually pretty good.

    December 1969.

    Of course, this is from the POV of the stage and the stars, not the majority of the crowd.
    Using the Hells Angels was common at Dead concerts, and the Stones had used them before too.
    The stage was too low, the crowd pressure was too much. Too much for even the Hells Angels.

    The young black kid in the green suit came to kill Jagger; he said so. He pulled a gun, the Angels took it away, then he pulled a knife, and they took that away and stabbed him with his own knife. The Angel was acquitted. (so it is said, I don’t know any of this for sure).

    Intelligent rock stars?

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