W.O.O.D. – 14 September 2020

Intro

This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:

https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2020/08/20/w-o-o-d-20-august-2020/
and remains open for threads running there (at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/category/w-o-o-d/

For just general FYI notices, use to “tips” pages. All the old ones remain for historical reference:
Tips Pages

What’s Going On?

Chinese Wuhan Covid Lockdowns Unconstitutional

https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/14/federal-judge-says-pennsylvania-democrat-governors-lockdown-was-unconstitutional/

Federal Judge Says Pennsylvania Democrat Governor’s Lockdown Orders Are Unconstitutional
SEPTEMBER 14, 2020 By Tristan Justice
A federal judge in Pennsylvania ruled Monday the state Democratic governor’s lockdown orders are unconstitutional, violating both the First and 14th Amendments.

The lawsuit, brought by Butler, Fayette, Greene, and Washington counties joined by Pittsburg-area Republican Congressman Mike Kelly and several state representatives, was filed in May arguing Gov. Tom Wolf’s orders implemented with state Health Secretary Rachel Levine to shut down businesses violated constitutional liberties. Seven businesses that included several hair salons and an appliance store had also joined the suit.
[…]
In the 66-page ruling, U.S. District Court Judge for the Western District of Pennsylvania William Stickman struck down Wolf’s limits on indoor and outdoor gatherings of up 25 and 250 people, respectively. The limitations, Stickman wrote, violate “the right of assembly enshrined in the First Amendment.”

Stickman ruled that the governor’s stay-home order and mandatory closure of businesses, which were deemed non-essential to curb the spread of the novel Wuhan coronavirus, infringed on citizen freedoms and discriminated based upon arbitrary “life sustaining” and “non-life sustaining” standards breaching 14th Amendment protections.

In the ruling, Stickman said he “believes that defendants undertook their actions in a well-intentioned effort to protect Pennsylvanians from the virus. However, good intentions toward a laudable end are not alone enough to uphold governmental action against a constitutional challenge. Indeed, the greatest threats to our system of constitutional liberties may arise when the ends are laudable, and the intent is good — especially in a time of emergency.”

Stickman emphasized that once liberties erode under a public emergency, they become difficult to repossess.

“Even a vigilant public may let down its guard over its constitutional liberties only to find that liberties, once relinquished, are hard to recoup,” Stickman wrote.

OK, precedent in hand, let 40 more suits be lodged…

But folks are pretty much saying F.U. to the whole idea anyway.

Electricity Political Drama

I’ve got my generator running and in good shape. Ready for the next outages. After looking over various generator reviews, it looks like lots of newer inverter based generators are out there. For about $300 to $400 you can get a nearly 2 kW continuous 2.2 kW surge generator from several sources all of which work OK. Harbor Freight Predator, Wen, Generac, and more. They generally look to me like minor case and detail variations of a Chinese Clone of the Honda.

I also have my inverters in place so can get modest power from the car via a long drop cord if desired.

Chinese Wuhan Covid

Daily Infections and Daily New Deaths continue to drop despite folks restarting things and generally blowing off the restrictions. This thing is just so over.

Brexit

The EU continues to play bully boy power politics, not recognizing a Free People when they see them. I didn’t think the Germans were so stupid. Oh Well, if they want to play that way, guess you Brits can just buy more Japanese and American cars ;-0 (Or maybe restart your own brands…)

Then there’s that whole “we want to keep on telling you how to live while we take your fish” and the Northern Ireland thing. Well, what is it, 3 months to go and this will FINALLY be over?

The Election Follies

Well, Trump is now doing an appearance per day. Biden does a 1/2 hour scripted teleprompter reading every other day then takes a day off.

At what point can an Amicus Brief for Elder Abuse be filed with the Family Court?

Stupid Games, Stupid Prizes

Gov. Whitmer has a bad case of Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes:

https://www.wxyz.com/news/coronavirus/group-tops-400k-signatures-to-repeal-whitmers-virus-powers

Group tops 400K signatures to repeal Whitmer’s virus powers

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, faced with lawsuits challenging her use of emergency powers to fight the coronavirus, could continue to prevail in court.

But she may be unable to stop a Republican maneuver that would rescind a 75-year-old law that has enabled her to issue and lift COVID-19 restrictions unilaterally. A ballot drive said Friday it was in the “home stretch” after collecting more than 400,000 signatures in just two months. Its goal is 500,000.

If at least 340,000 signatures are deemed valid by the state elections board, the GOP-controlled Legislature would likely repeal the 1945 law rather than let it go to a 2022 public vote. The Democratic governor could not veto the initiated bill. A 1976 law, which requires legislative approval to extend a state of emergency, would remain intact.

“No one should think that allowing a politician to have unlimited power for an unlimited duration is a good idea,” said Fred Wszolek, spokesman for Unlock Michigan. He urged people to consider if they would be OK with 2018 gubernatorial candidate Bill Schuette or President Donald Trump, both Republicans, wielding emergency powers permanently with no need to consult lawmakers.

One Down, a half dozen more to go…

They are still collecting signatures and expect to hit 1/2 Million before stopping.

The Facebook Truth Inverter

In other news, Facebook as now banned any posting that claims Antifa / BLM Arson is involved with the west coast fires. This, despite a few such folks being arrested for Arson in setting the fires. One guy on a revolving door having set a half dozen already (now remanded to a mental institution since that’s stronger than a DA / Jail).

This is one in a long string of such political rulings. This causes me to postulate the Facebook Truth Inverter:

Anything Facebook BANS in terms of political speech, is full proof of the veracity of it. If Facebook bans it, you KNOW it is TRUE!

In the mean time, Oregon has had as many fires in 2 months as they normally get in an entire year. That’s arson, folks. Then there is the convenient proximity of about 1 car drive from Liberal Riots. Gov. Nuisance and a few other Loony Dimocrats are shouting that it is Globull Warming!!!! when it isn’t. Fuel load and arson is all it is. This summer has been cooler than many here in California.

FWIW, we’re finally getting more or less clean air today. Onshore slight wind.

In other news, folks in rural areas are setting up check points and promising to shoot looters or arsonists. Said scumbuckets ought to look up the phrase “Shoot, Shovel, and Shut Up.” Rural farming types are well experienced with that…

In an unrelated note: I have dug out my deep stores of ammunition. Looks like it is all still good. Next week or two I’ll set up the reloading station and run a few hundred 9mm through it. So far my suburb has been nice, quiet, and peaceful. I’m not expecting that to change. Should that change, it’s not getting past the front door.

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263 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 14 September 2020

  1. H.R. says:

    You mention reloading and the mob not getting past your door, E.M.

    What I realized today is that the GEBs are doing is trying to start either a civil war, a race war, or both. But so far, patriots aren’t getting sucked into that.

    Currently, there is no ‘us’ and ‘them’. There is only ‘them’ and that’s BLM and antifa. It looks like Americans are willing to give the ballot box one last chance before going to the bullet box.

    What also occurred to me today is that there are some rough men who will do violence so that ordinary men can sleep in peace (can’t search on that quote right now – takes too many fingers).

    These men will not be shooting their fellow citizens, unless fired upon. I believe they will be taking aim at GEBs and the elite politicians.

    I don’t think anyone knows who these rough men are or where they are, but I can’t believe that I’m the only one that believes they exist.

  2. cdquarles says:

    @H. R., Yes, they do exist. That oath taken when you join the military does not end. Though I didn’t serve directly, the civilian service I did do had a reserve component. I’m too old and sick now; but this old military brat does not forget. Youngest son is a Navy vet.

  3. Serioso says:

    This site reminds me — often — that human [gratuitous insult removed. -E.M.S.]. I’ll keep my mask on, thank you!
    [Reply: Nice to know you are wearing a mask all the time. -E.M.S.] [Second gratuitous insult removed. -E.M.S.] of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your lives!

    H.R sounds like one of those ranchers who has been convinced that Antifa looting is a bigger threat than the fires.
    [Reply: Since both are caused by the DNC / Antifa / BLM / China complex, it’s a moot point which is worse. -E.M.S.] Amazing how ordinary people, dazzled by misinformation, can be so easily misled. It is a lesson for us all: Many people, perhaps most, are fools!
    [Note: Left that insult in, as it applies to BLM / Antifa / DNC adherents as well as others. -E.M.S.]

    A question: Will the Chief delete one of my critical posts once again? Probably!
    [Reply: “Critical”? One hopes as in critique and not as in importance… But no, why delete when you can inform? -E.M.S.]

  4. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    They do exist. My Dad was one. Spouses Dad and her Texas Uncle another two. I’d like to think I’m able if necessary.

    For now, yes, I’m only set up for “Castle Defense” plus a few “found items” in the cars. I’m not going looking for any trouble at all, and fully intend to avoid as much as possible.

    Oh, I have assembled a black pants / sweatshirt combo along with some leather biker gloves and a helmet – so that if I make a wrong turn I can rapidly put on the uniform of the opposition… (Just to be able to say “Sorry, missed the meet up! Where should I park?” and then get to someplace to bug out…)

    For now, all I’m doing is “pocket carry” in the house (which covers about 99% of my time) and being careful where I go outside the house. Oh, and shotgun loaded in the rack. When things had quieted down for a while, I’d put it all away, but it looks like folks are going for the Bums Rush the last 60 days; so figured might as well be prepared “just in case”.

    I’ve got more than enough ammunition already in hand. The reloading is mostly just to make sure everything is still in working order and where it belongs AND to raise the 9mm inventory. I’d shot up most of my reloads as target fun shooting. So I’ve got lots of ammo, but for the “variety guns”… Only about 100 rds of 9mm. And while I’m happy with the notion of shooting .22 rimfire, .32 ACP, .25 ACP, .40 S&W, .357 Sig, .357 Magnum, 12 Gauge (and a few others, no doubt) as self defense; I’d rather it was the cheep Chinese 9mm that went off to forensics after the fact. (The NORINCO 9mm shoots wonderfully with a trigger like glass, but it just isn’t a high quality fit and finish gun…) And the SKS Carbine in 7.62 x 39 has loads of ammo (oddly, also Chinese from about 25 years back for both gun and ammo) it’s a bit prone to being over the top for urban self defense. OTOH, I do like the bayonet on it ;-)

    So FWIW, I’m looking at being equipped with low caliber Beretta / Winchester 12 Gauge secondary as long as it is just “low threat” at home context. BUT, if things start going Guerrilla Warfare at some point, I’m likely to be fitted out in the best Mao Chinese Kit circa 1980 vintage ;-) Only in the remarkably unlikely case of a “bug out to country” urban evacuation would I swap over to the .38 / .357 kit of Ruger revolver with 9mm cylinder, Marlin long gun; AND my high quality 9 mm Pistol. IF time and space allowed, I’d also pack the Sig in .40 / .357 Sig. I like the idea of a pistol that can stop the feral hogs and black bear in the hills around here. Lighter weight than the Ruger and more coat pocket capable ;-)

    But at this point, both Urban Warfare and Bugout are about 0.01% probabilities, IMHO. I’m happy to report that Silly Con Valley seems to be full of folks who just don’t care about political BS all that much and are far more worried about their 401 K and property values… So I fully expect my total “involvement” will be a bit of holster wear on a very small Beretta in the pocket for 2 months. I’m good with that.

    FWIW:

    My read on the general “Right Wing” is that they are quite aware of The Game, and avoiding engaging on the ground chosen by their opponent. Instead playing out the clock for November. The real SHTF risk is the day after election night.

    There’s a few small local groups doing area defense of their neighborhoods, but I think nothing comes of that. Antifa / BLM go rural in small bands and run away when confronted by the overwhelming firepower of rural folks. (BTW, I’m a rural folk. Just moved to the city to make money. My growing up years and my soul are all farm country / rural. Thus my overwhelming firepower…) The GEBs can’t make a Civil War out of rural home defenders. (May end up with a few missing Antifa “lost in the woods” though…)

    Then there’s the whole tactics thing. Completely Hypothetical: But, were a faux Color Revolution Civil War to break out, I’m pretty sure a whole lot of “folks like me” would not be lining up for marching lines of battle ala 1770. Personally, I’m taking the quiet scoped small caliber rifle and my camo hunting suit and expecting to play modest range sniper. Black Bloc folks can run around “in uniformed masses” and that’s fine with me. I’m not interested in confrontations force on force. I’m interested in effective ratios. But I’m pretty sure they will mostly be in the urban core – fine, let them burn their own ecosystem down. To the extent they go rural, they might get a week while understanding diffuses, but after that, they are fodder.

    So yeah. A whole lot of brave folks willing to Hunker Down and do Castle Defense at most through November. Then reassess. So IMHO, the GEBs plan of a color revolution pre-election is not going to work. Post election, we’ll see.

  5. H.R. says:

    I’m saying I think the truly ‘rough men’ will start at the top and leave us old codgers to take care of castle defense as you’ve described.

    As cd says, they exist. But they won’t reveal themselves and the proof will be when they clean house starting at the top. I personally believe that no amount of security will protect the ‘elites’ from these rough men. I’d be voting Trump right about now if I were a governor or senator or mayor.

    BTW, these will not be men that Trump has any knowledge of and I’m doubtful he’d be in the least supportive of them. Trump has a different way to fix things. But if these rough men perceive that the country is broken beyond repair, they will fix it their way, not Trump’s way.

    I’d say it would only take a couple of hundred rough men a few months to complete some major renovations.

    JMO

  6. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    Ah, I see. Different meaning of “rough men”. More what I think of as “special forces patriots”. Have everything needed to effect “regime change” (as that is what many Special Forces train for) but no longer “Noobies” at it and well aware of their oath about “Foreign AND Domestic”… Like that General who said something like “Every time I enter a room I have a plan to kill the people in it”.

    Yeah, I could see some folks having a spate of “odd accidents” if they try to subvert a proper election and transfer of power. (Or in this case, continuance…)

    I was thinking more “Men willing to live rough and do what needs doing when SHTF”. I.e. more a local Militia kind of thing.

    Frankly, I’m surprised Soros & Friends are still alive. Must have very good private security forces. Or they have just not been trouble enough to matter, yet.

    What distresses me is the fact that clearly there’s a huge layer of Swamp Corruption. Perhaps the majority of all folks in management of Federal Government. It’s almost to the point of needing a 100% reset / refresh. IF it can be done at all… IMHO, it’s “Trump gets a 2nd term”, or the whole government is lost and doomed to fail (and then W.W.III is likely as the USA as stabilizing bully exits the stage).

    Basically the problem is “How do you do an ‘elite-ectomy'” and not destroy everything? Made worse this time as it looks like it is a Global Elite, not just the upper tier of one country.

    The Shadow Government Of The Swamp does not wish to shut down, so needs to be taken down. So far Trump has wounded it, but only modestly. It needs a whole lot more pruning and scorching.

  7. Another Ian says:

    “Kamala Harris lets the truth slip out, she’s already got poor old Joe out of the way, it’s “A Harris Administration””

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/09/kamala-harris-lets-the-truth-slip-out-shes-already-got-poor-old-joe-out-of-the-way-itll-be-a-harris-.html

  8. Another Ian says:

    P G & E’s hiring form

    “I think the assumption that Ex CEO Andrew Vesey was motivated by maximising shareholder wealth was the driving force behind his corporate strategy at AGL is incorrect. Increased profitability was an accidental perk. He is a genuine and active zealot. So it should come as no surprise at where he is now employed. He has moved on to greener pastures heading up PG & E the dominant energy provider in California. That is sure to work out really well for Californians as well. I suspect if he tries really hard he’ll be able to help California to make energy rationing and high cost , a feature of their energy structure. He is doing his bit to show Americans how their electricity supply will be managed if Biden wins the election and the green new deal”

    http://joannenova.com.au/2020/09/winning-labor-party-drops-2030-renewable-target-libs-build-gas-plant-still-scared-of-climate-bullies/#comment-2365142

  9. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Oh Joy… Just what I need…

    Per Harris:

    Her Hubby is in a law firm that does a lot of work for China… Anyone want to take bets why she ended up V.P. to Joe “In the pocket for $1.5B” Biden?

    China is calling the DNC shots and buying the White House, IMHO.

  10. E.M.Smith says:

    From another era:

  11. E.M.Smith says:

    Just a minor note that I found a Serioso comment in moderation. It is now upthread here: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2020/09/15/w-o-o-d-14-september-2020/#comment-132909

    with the gratuitous insults removed…

  12. Another Ian says:

    For comments!

    “No “Swamp” to See Here — EPA Quietly Hires ‘Climate RICO’ Ringleader”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/09/15/no-swamp-to-see-here-epa-quietly-hires-climate-rico-ringleader/

  13. Another Ian says:

    E.M. As you guessed – looks like the resume track

    “White House Cancels CDC Critical Race Theory Training Program”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/15/white-house-cancels-cdc-critical-race-theory-training-program/

  14. Steven Fraser says:

    @EM: I am encouraged that information about the efficacy of several well-tolerated substances, including Vit D, Hydroxycholoroquine and Ivermectin, is getting around in the press and in public awareness. That, coupled with the reporting of the significant decrease in death rates and the scoop that ‘cases’ are not disease instances but the result of hyper-sensitive tests, also lead me to think that the alarmism and overreaction by governments can soon abate.

    As to future threats… I think the entire USA has become inoculated against this sort of bum’s rush to lock things down, with results in court cases trending toward freedom and away from unconstitutional action by government. Individual governors and mayors who hold socialistic tendencies are being exposed, one-by-one, and the resistance is rising. This dynamic will take more time to wind through the various courts and ballot initiatives, but the First and Fourteenth amendments stand as powerful statements.

    I always enjoy what you write.

  15. Compu Gator says:

    Demand for Guns Overwhelming FBI Background Check System”
    15 Sep 2020 by AWR Hawkins

    [AWR Hawkins is an award-winning Second Amendment columnist for Breitbart News and the writer/curator of Down Range with AWR Hawkins, a weekly newsletter focused on all things Second Amendment, also for Breitbart News. He is the political analyst for Armed American Radio.]:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/15/demand-for-guns-overwhelming-fbi-background-check-system/.

    This is only an issue when firearms are actually in stock.

  16. Another Ian says:

    “Lancaster protesters held on whopping $1 million bail each after alleged riots”

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/lancaster-protesters-bail-alleged-riots

  17. philjourdan says:

    I have a 5500 watt generator hooked to a plug (outside) that is connected to a switch on my panel box. It will run all the non-high amp stuff and one high amp thing. I had my cousin set it up (he is a registered electrician). I shut off main power, then the range, dryer Heat-pump and blower (Hot water is propane),

    Then flip the switch to the generator and decide what of the big amp things we will run.

    Cost: $500

  18. philjourdan says:

    @EM- Love the edits of Serioso! Please continue! It does demonstrate his lack of civility, intelligence and logic!

  19. philjourdan says:

    We had a Perfect day today! Highs in the mid 70s. Blue skies, no clouds.

    Except we did not! Thanks to the stupidity of the effing liberals on the west coast. It was hazy all day due to the smoke from the fires out west.

    EMS – get your shit together! Or the other states will make the San Andreas quake!

  20. E.M.Smith says:

    @Phil:

    “This too shall pass”. We had blue sky today, onshore (barely) wind. Oregon is having (minimal but extant) rain today and for a couple. The cleaner air will be heading eastward and soon (sometime in the next weeks or months…) the clean air will once again be flowing Eastward.

    Figure all the fires will be out about the first week of November…

    FWIW:

    Most of the smoke is from Oregon. Yes, California is having a good run of it, but much of that has been going offshore (over MY head) and making where I am orange sky (or sepia on good days). That changed today as the offshore wind has stopped and onshore started (more normal), so soon California will be a major contributor to the Eastward flow. But any air you have had in the last week or two has been from circulation out of Oregon.

    DO NOT READ THIS: Well, our offshore was wrapping around a low and coming back toward shore eventually, but I’m sure by then it was all clean and clear 8-}

  21. E.M.Smith says:

    Per Transfer Switches:

    I’ve thought of installing one. (Dad taught me to do electrical work when I was 7 and I was “wiring hot” by 9 years old. I’ve built tube radios from scratch including 400 VDC power supplies by age 12.) But it was easier to just lay drop cables for our occasional needs. IIRC they are about $60 for the switch.

    I did make a suicide plug. Male at each end. Plug one end into generator other end into wall. Tested it. It’s a bit “BE VERY VERY CAREFUL!” in that YOU are the transfer switch and MUST do things correctly. Also, when plugged in, the other male end is live and can zap you (or any other conductor!) As I have a sub-panel in the garage for all things garage and outdoors (installed by me along with garage wiring) it was fairly easy to test. Isolate sub panel from main via sub-panel main switch. Plug in generator in outside socket. Ran stuff in garage and outdoors just fine…

    The thing worked fine (and I still have it somewhere); but it was just more of a bother than using the drop cords / UPS arrangement. I’d gotten several 1000 W UPS units from various Silly Con Valley site shutdown contracts (computer room disassembly… I’d build ’em, maintain ’em, and take them apart…) so it was VERY easy to just move the wall plug to a drop cord. Doing the dance of “turn off main switch, turn off selected circuits from the main panel, plug in generator, run around turning off things that you don’t really want on right now” was harder than “move living room UPS plug, office UPS plug and fridge to their drop cords. Plug lighting string into generator”.

    As my main panel was outdoors behind a bush in the dark, that was a PITA, especially in rain. Easier was drop cords from the covered patio by the light of the UPS lights (living room lamp was on UPS along with TV glow lighting ;-)

    I was building a battery box / charger / inverter setup for the garage but then electricity stabilized and I let that project go. Still have the inverter, but never bought the batteries. Was planning to re-route fridge, TV cluster, and Living Room, Bedroom, Office, Bath lights to it. Then have the line volts keep it float charged. Zero intervention needed, just always run off the inverter / battery box. Planned to put the Garage sub-panel on it too so the garage door would always work. Oh Well… Maybe I’ll start that project up again now that we’re back in the land of Unstable Democrat Electricity… Then, when outage was about 1/2 battery life long, I’d fire up the generator and plug the charger into it instead of the wall power (thus my testing the suicide plug to garage panel… figured I use that until I got a proper transfer switch installed).

    Yes, all done in the Silly Con Valley “rapid prototyping” style. First you do what will be very fast to do AND probably work OK. Then you fix it enough to ship. Then you rebuild it as it is best done. Musk is doing this with SpaceX as opposed to the Boeing method (classical plan for years then build it exactly right once; THEN find out what is just wrong as things fail…)

    Hmm… The cost of a bunch of batteries is the main reason I didn’t go forward. I had one old car battery in a plastic RV box as my rapid prototype… Might be fun to make a mini version. Not the 2 kW one I was making. But a 250 W one ( I already have the inverter). Get a 12 VDC LiPo battery (much better batteries now) and a small box. Add charger. OTOH, I’ve still got 2 of the 1 kW UPS units. Just need to put new batteries in them and they are “good to go” again. Hmmm…. Bottle of Scotch, or new UPS battery? Decisions decisions ;-)

  22. H.R. says:

    @E.M. re finishing emergency power projects – That would be a BIG plus in selling your home and you could easily recover the costs in the sale price of your house.

  23. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    Maybe. Or the idea of inheriting “some guy’s” DIY Mystery Project might cause nervousness to buyers. Hard to say. FWIW, I’d figured if power kept getting more expensive AND worse, I’d put a natural gas kit on the generator and just roll my own at low cost…

    Now I’m more inclined to just sell quick and get an RV with an Onan on board. Then all I’d need is a transfer switch to the RV from the Florida home.

    So choose to optimize the past or accellerate a better future?

    I’d put a “short hold” on moving when Chinese Wuhan Covid hit. That’s now turned into 9 months and wearing old. I’m leaning toward “Take the $80k price drop and move now” instead of waiting for things to settle and recover. Decisions decisions.

  24. H.R. says:

    @E.M. – Sometimes there’s a little wisdom buried in rock lyrics.

    “♯♪♫Go on, take the money and run ♪♫”

    Just when you think things can’t get any worse well, sometimes they do.

  25. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    That’s the way I’m leaning. Just call it done and move on with life. I’ve started boxing things up and dumping crap from the garage. Still need to get a price quote on the house and a market status report. I.e gather real data. It will still take a couple of months to get everything ready. Then will be the final go / nogo decision. Essentially dual tracking “pack, prep, and go” with “clean up, simplify, and hunker” until the right branch of the decision statement executes…

    I think I’ve spent too much time looking at how CPUs work with pipeline architecture and branch prediction :-)

  26. jim2 says:

    IBM mainframes were doing branch prediction in the 70’s. But I don’t know the entire history of branch prediction.

  27. p.g.sharrow says:

    here is a little something you guys might enjoy, Kind of in HR’s style of humor. 8-)
    https://wilderwealthywise.com/the-great-exodus-and-continued-attack-of-the-left/
    and a bit more news…pg

  28. H.R. says:

    @p.g.

    Like!

  29. E.M.Smith says:

    @P.G.:

    I note in passing that the image at the top of the linked ‘attack of the left” meme credits “frieghtbrokerlive.com”. That is still his web site name, but his U-Tube channel is now “PT News Network”. I’ve been watching his stuff most evenings. He is a cop friendly site aggregator. (He has a dozen video feeds open on HIS screen, and swaps the feed to you to whichever one is interesting at the moment).

    Trying to reach his web site, I get a “domain not available” notice, so either he’s under attack or didn’t pay the registration on time…

    Some times it is a cop on patrol with a live stream from his car. Sometimes a storm-chaser off in some hurricane. Sometimes a live stream from a BLM / Antifa / DNC riot – often provided by someone sympathetic to their cause…

    He had been a Freight Broker for a living, then life changed on him, thus the site name. He’s VERY “trucker friendly” for obvious reasons.

    Tuesdays he does a “Back The Blue” show where all donations are dedicated to a particular person in blue who needs it (last night was a Cop paralysed from the neck down in a shooting).

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQD_nKUVWQIReZEPc8-ClOQ

    I note in passing that we again have confirmation of the Facebook Inverse Truth Indicator: That Facebook banned crediting Antifa / BLM / DNC with the arson is confirmation that it is being done by Antifa / BLM / DNC followers… IMHO of course.

  30. Ed Forbes says:

    “..philjourdan says:
    16 September 2020 at 12:58 am
    I have a 5500 watt generator hooked to a plug (outside) that is connected to a switch on my panel box..”

    Could you expand on this. I assume you broke the main lines to the panel with a 2 way mechanical switch so you don’t heat up the incoming lines when the generator is on. What switching box(s) was used?
    .
    I have been thinking of something similar and I am interested in how others approach this. Not real interested in an automatic switching as I have had bad experience with powered automatic electrical switches in the past and no longer trust them. The high end (expensive) powered switches seem to work ok, but not willing to spend what it takes to up my confidence level in something that is not life threatening and is merely annoying to switch over to when needed (rarely).

  31. philjourdan says:

    @EM – Re: Smoke – Just pulling your leg. Sally will take care of it before then.

    Re: 2 male plug. That is what I had. But then damn near electrocuted myself during Isaias when we lost power and the lot was flooding, so I had to crank it up, and of course I was standing in water. So that is why I had my cousin install the outside plug to a circuit that is in the off position unless we lose power, then I flip the main off and the switch on.

    Re: Transfer switch. I actually asked him to do that (my cousin). But they do not “transfer” all the power. MOst do 4-6 breakers. Some do more, but then you are getting into serious bucks. So that is why I went the route I do. Technically, leaving all the 15-20 amp circuits connected exceeds the generator capacity. But then most of those circuits are NOT in use, so we are well within specs. That is why we can run one “oomph” thing, but not 2. So the AC is out of the question since it takes 2 Oomphs! (the compressor and air handler). Most folks would use that to do the hot water. But mine is propane. SO we will probably do Stove (Invective) or dryer. When it happens.

  32. philjourdan says:

    @EM and HR – re: DIY or sell quick.

    I go with the sell quick. My house came with several DIY, and they are not good. Buyers do not know if you are good or not. So Sell quick, and let the next guy DIY.

  33. philjourdan says:

    @Ed Forbes – I would have to get you in touch with my cousin, as I am not an electrician (although I got out of biology in HS by taking electronics so know enough to be dangerous).

    Basically, what he did was install a plug on the outside of the house that I could then plug my generator into. It does nothing as it is wired to a breaker that is in the off position most of the time. And my generator, being gas, is not running most of the time.

    Should we lose power, I would go in and switch the main into the off position, switch the generator into the on position (and then kill the 50amp breakers as my little bessie is not rated to handle them). And then turn on the generator.

    It works! And I am not limited by the transfer switch breaker limit, or having to snake plugs through dryer vents.

    I may one day get a whole house job. But for now, this works!

  34. Another Ian says:

    This is for Australia (240 volt) but shouldn’t be different in principle. We’ve just had one done.

    There is a plug on the outside of the switch box where the lead from the alternator connects.
    Inside is a manual switch between mains and alternator.
    There is a light wired so when mains power is present it is a garden light. When switched on with alternator power it serves as a signal for return of mains power.

    Also interesting that a 7 KVA alternator uses only one 15 amp lead

  35. E.M.Smith says:

    Phil Jordan:

    Thus my calling it the Suicide Plug ;-)

    FWIW, I’ve been bit 2 x by wall 120 VAC (over a one inch contact to 2 conductors) and once each by 400 VDC plate power supply and 700 VAC limited amps from a transformer over 1 inch of palm. I know exactly what it means. Thus my knowing to ALWAYS be aware of it. Also why I only used it once as a test.

  36. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    You only get 3600 W continuous through 240 V 15 A. So my guess is the other 3600 W is only for surge motor starting. I.e. just a second or two and not long enough to warm wires or pop the breakers.

    FWIW, my average consumption is about 1 KW. My peak is stove + oven + AC which would be about 6 kW. Add one more if the fridge started the compressor right then.

    I decided I didn’t need an emergency kitchen stove and oven, having many camp stoves. The AC is optional here most all the time.

    So 1 KW runs fridge, electronics, lighting. All I really need in emergencies.

  37. Another Ian says:

    ” So my guess is the other 3600 W is only for surge motor starting. ”

    Mine also. Our stove is gas top, electric oven so not a problem. Runs the household pressure pumps (doubled up with rainwater for hot water system life, bore for cold water, both constant pressure pumps to avoid freeze/scald showers) and the cold room. No welding though as the gen set is a welder/alternator and won’t run the shop welder.

    Honda GX 390 seems to go about 4 hours on a 6 l tank.

    We’re on a LONG SWER (single wire earth return) power line so it is nice to not be depending on emergency gas lights.

  38. Another Ian says:

    “Fox News Harris Faulkner and Crew Have Meltdown When Newt Gingrich Accurately Points Out George Soros Funding of Radical District Attorneys…”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/09/16/fox-news-harris-faulkner-and-crew-have-meltdown-when-newt-gingrich-accurately-points-out-george-soros-funding-of-radical-district-attorneys/#more-199841

  39. Graeme No.3 says:

    E.M.S. In today’s paper/feed
    “The exodus of businesses that some call a jailbreak will not be slowed if California proceeds with a proposed wealth tax, the first in the US, projected to raise $US 7.5bn a year. And it comes with a barb attached: exiled Californians will be liable to pay the tax for a decade after they flee.”
    I am sure you are aware of this but what happens if they pass such a bill? They then find that all the intended victims left California the day before or are ‘friends of Nancy’. The usual reaction is “well we want that money to spend, so lower the threshold”.

  40. Ted1 says:

    “Lockdowns Unconstitutional”.
    In Australia state border closures are prohibited by Section 92 of the constitution. It is written in plain English, but modern “Labor” governments believe that they are above the law.
    A challenge to the shutdowns was launched in The High Court in May, but won’t be heard until November. Hopefully The High Court does understand plain English, but terrible damage is being done to small business in the interim.
    The coalition Federal government meantime is kowtowing to the Western Australian Labor government by withdrawing from the case.

  41. tom0mason says:

    I note that the list of retracted and questionable research on COVID papers has now reached 33.
    See https://retractionwatch.com/retracted-coronavirus-covid-19-papers/ for a list (with links) to these papers as well as ‘Temporarily retracted’ and ‘Expressions of concern’.

  42. E.M.Smith says:

    @Tom0mason:

    Look at it this way, in a publish or perish world, they get to publish twice! Once early, from the hip, and retracted; then second a corrected version! ;-)

    @Graeme No. 3:

    I’d be worried were it not for the fact that they tried this once before and it was found illegal.

    About 20? years ago the State of Kalifornia tried to levy a tax on retirement income earned on out of State residents who had made their money in California. So work at Apple, retire to Texas, then California wanted to tax your 401 K and Social Security as they were earned in California. Court tossed it.

    This is the same deal, just “your non-retirement wealth”. It too will be tossed.

    Then there’s that small matter of enforcement… Just how enthusiastic would Texas or Florida be about having the wealth in their State sucked off to California?

    @Another Ian:

    Yeah, I’ve seen others give an eye-roll when informed Soros was bankrolling the campaigns of the various “bad actor” Governors, Mayors, and D.A.s along with BLM and Antifa (though often via a money launder through his NGOs).

    It’s obvious to anyone who looks, but not to The Left. Not sure why they can’t see it as it is filed paperwork.

    My only question is about the relationship of Soros to the other major actors / beneficiaries. China has a hand in, plus other globalists. The DNC makes sense as they are just whoring for cash and power and don’t care what strings are attached to them in the process. Then the BLM / Antifa / Useful Idiots are pretty simply just Zealot Idiots paid for Street Theatre.

    Then SWER: So I’m still learning some things!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_earth_return

    Single-wire earth return (SWER) or single-wire ground return is a single-wire transmission line which supplies single-phase electric power from an electrical grid to remote areas at low cost. Its distinguishing feature is that the earth (or sometimes a body of water) is used as the return path for the current, to avoid the need for a second wire (or neutral wire) to act as a return path.

    Single-wire earth return is principally used for rural electrification, but also finds use for larger isolated loads such as water pumps. It is also used for high-voltage direct current over submarine power cables.
    […]
    Lloyd Mandeno, OBE (1888–1973) fully developed SWER in New Zealand around 1925 for rural electrification. Although he termed it “Earth Working Single Wire Line”, it was often called “Mandeno’s Clothesline”.[2] More than 200,000 kilometres have now been installed in Australia and New Zealand. It is considered safe, reliable and low-cost, provided that safety features and earthing are correctly installed. The Australian standards are widely used and cited. It has been applied around the world, such as in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan; Brazil; Africa; and portions of the United States’ Upper Midwest and Alaska (Bethel).

    I knew this could work, but had no idea it was actually used, nor that it was in the USA at all.

    Looks like dry soils and poor grounding is the major problem.

    I think I’d be tempted to put a battery bank in place with charger in and inverter out. Stabilize my house voltage and current available while reducing peak power down the SWER line. OTOH, if the power rarely fails, probably just wastes power in the conversions…

    Might be interesting to stick a couple of rods in the ground 100 m apart and see if you could harvest any electricity ;-)

  43. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian, per Fox:

    The bit of video in that link is stunning. Newt describes reality and it is editorially placed off limits. Then dead silence. On national news you just don’t take dead air for a minute. Clearly someone talking in the puppets ear and she can’t “happy talk” while downloading new orders. THEN the “moving on” happens and Newt accurately says “So it is forbidden.” (using German Verboten).

    Just Amazing.

    Well, the good news is that I’m no longer bothered that I “lost” Fox.

    A few years back I did the “cord cutter” thing and went all Roku / Streaming. What was hard was that at the time I was fully immersed in Cable News. Letting that go was hard. Finding alternatives took time. Now I look at what Fox has become (is becoming) and I’m happy I left.

    Just Amazing that they would forbid discussion of THE underlying cause. Soros money buying D.A.s, Mayors, and Governors.

  44. Another Ian says:

    Re SWER

    We’re on a sand hill and earthing is a problem. We have double the normal set of earth plates and, when the am radio gets noisy it is time to water the earth area. And you don’t put fence posts in that area as you can harvest 19,000 volts if things go wrong.

    IIRC motors are limited to around 5 hp and the big ones use 480 volts 2 phase. We don’t have any big ones so I’m not up on that.

    It is a cross-country network to minimise length of line – doesn’t follow roads. Clearings are wide out here so usually no tree problems.

    Reliability is good – thunderstorms in summer can be a problem. Early on a strike anywhere seemed to take the line out. Now it seems to be sectioned so a strike at the far end doesn’t take the whole line out.

    Still good to have a back-up set though – which we didn’t for a long time.

  45. Another Ian says:

    “Nolte: Harris Faulkner Issues Awkward Statement About Gingrich-Soros Fiasco”

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/09/17/nolte-harris-faulkner-issues-awkward-statement-about-gingrich-soros-fiasco/

    Stumble pie?

  46. H.R. says:

    Today I went in for my second physical therapy rehab session for the shoulder. The surgeon had told me do NOT move my arm or shoulder until the therapist moved it.

    Today was the day she moved it and yowie! maui! wowie! But it felt good to get a little movement finally.

    She was just getting a baseline range of motion for where my shoulder/arm is after surgery and where we needed to go. She actually used a protractor for the measures.

    She did my good left arm first and I was hearing lots of numbers well past 90 degrees. Heck! From my side and then out and up over my head I made it a little past 180 degrees. I’m still pretty limber and flexible for an old geezer.

    Then came the gimp arm and I think the best number I heard was about 30 degrees. She’d slowly, gently move my arm along one of the axes and then take a reading when I turned white and screamed.

    At the end of the session, she had this really neat water jacket that she wrapped around my arm and shoulder. It had cool water in it and it felt good. I thought that was it. But then she hooked two hoses with quick-connect fittings to the jacket, hit a switch, and all of a sudden there was ice water circulating through that water jacket. Oh boy did that feel great! Left it on for 10 minutes and then I was done for the day.

    I really want one of those machines! I can use it to make homemade ice cream after my shoulder heals up ;o)

  47. ossqss says:

    Good on ya HR!

  48. H.R. says:

    @Ossqss – The giveaway that the rehab PT was going to be rough was when, instead of scrubs, my physical therapist showed up with a riding crop, thigh high riding boots, fishnet stockings, a leather bustier. and a spiked dog collar for a necklace.

    I should have run right then and there.

    HER: “Oops! Did that hurt? Sorry.”

    ME: “No you’re not.”
    ;o)

  49. A C Osborn says:

    E M, I noticed that Retraction watch has a few HCQ and 2 Ivermectin studies that have been retracted or withdrawn.
    I think more supression may be going on behind the scenes.

  50. cdquarles says:

    My physical therapy story :).
    I have had ulcerative colitis since 1997. In 2003, I developed a skin complication called pyoderma gangrenosum. I spent a few days in the hospital then started 6 months of therapy, which was like burn wound therapy. Did it hurt? Yes, some, but not really much more than the wound did and not at all like the near whole body 24/7 pain I had from an unknown, but generalized, arthritis some 17 years before that (my first bout of corticosteroid therapy, to be followed by a few more over the years for acoustic neuronitis then ulcerative colitis later). This scarred both of my ankles and required use of a cane to keep my body upright when walking (the compensation for the ankles caused bad overall posture and more pain). A second round of ulcers developed on my ankles not quite 10 years later and with the development of kidney stones, took me out of the job market. Second round of wound care went much faster and was far less painful. The skin there is still fragile to this day.

  51. Another Ian says:

    “FN 509 Midsize: Accurate, Flawlessly Reliable, and Made in U.S.A.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2020/09/18/fn-509-midsize-accurate-flawlessly-reliable-and-made-in-u-s-a/

  52. jim2 says:

    Justice Ginsberg has died. Cruz for a replacement?

  53. philjourdan says:

    @HR- I think we all want one of those machines!

  54. philjourdan says:

    Nuclear. This is going to burn the liberal cities down.

  55. cdquarles says:

    @jim2,
    Senator Ted Cruz has said that he would rather stay in the Senate. Sidney Powell for SCOTUS ;p.

  56. jim2 says:

    Sidney Powell’s up to head the FBI! I’m thinking she could do more good there than in the SC.

  57. jim2 says:

    The initial reaction of talking heads on Fox News is that there is too much turmoil to try to seat a new Justice. You would think they would know better by now, and maybe I’ll be surprised; but I think that’s exactly what Trump will do. It will be a major distraction from the Demowit covid narrative, and from just about everything else for that matter. He would masterfully use the chaos. I say go for it!

  58. Another Ian says:

    Seems McConnell has said the Senate will vote if a candidate is presented

  59. Another Ian says:

    And

    “Please God, make him win: Flynn Lawyer Powell Eyed to Replace Wray at FBI”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/09/18/when-the-fbi-does-it-that-means-that-its-not-illegal-172/#comments

  60. p.g.sharrow says:

    With the loss of Ginsberg the Liberals are behind 2 votes, even Roberts can’t save them now. Whether that vacant seat is filled now or after the 20th January swear in date. On the other hand as long as it is open the Democrats will have one more incentive to drag the conclusion of the election out. Not only the swearing in of Harris/Biden as president but their liberal Ginsberg seat as well or they will destroy the country. No Supreme Court vote will be allowed to deny the Democrats control of the country It would not be valid to have say over this election without
    “Their” justice in place

  61. E.M.Smith says:

    Just Omg! And I was busy changing oil in cars and having sushi w/ the spouse….

    RBG gone, Republican Senate, 2 months of REEEEEEEE!!!! to go, and the only booze I have is a 1958 or so Scotch where I take one shot on my birthday every 1/2 decade….

    I think this deserves a shot!

  62. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    Leathers? Riding crop? Um…. is she taking new patients! I think my shoulder is hurting…..

  63. E.M.Smith says:

    Sipping a shot of incredibly smokey 1957 Tamdhu Glenlivet Scotch. Looks like I have enough left for one shot a year for my probable remaining drinking life, so decided this event was worthy.

    Now the big question is: Try to leave a few shots for my son at my wake, or assure it is empty prior?

    8-)

    Decisions, decisions….

  64. E.M.Smith says:

    Trump needs to wait an appropriate period, say 7 days, then appoint a replacement.

    Preferably a woman, to quash the 1000 imaginary Bimbetts that will suddenly appear for any man.

    While I know it can’t happen, Kimberly could be fun:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberly_Guilfoyle

    Kimberly Ann Guilfoyle (/ˈɡɪlfɔɪl/ GIL-foyl; born March 9, 1969) is an American attorney, prosecutor, and television news personality serving as an advisor to Donald Trump.

    Guilfoyle studied at University of California, Davis and the University of San Francisco and was a prosecuting attorney in San Francisco and Los Angeles, California. She served as an Assistant District Attorney in San Francisco from 2000 to 2004. Guilfoyle married Democratic politician and future California Governor Gavin Newsom and was First Lady of San Francisco during Newsom’s first two years as mayor of that city. She is a member of the Republican Party and has been the partner of Donald Trump Jr. since 2018.

    Any opposition could be asked “What have you got against Dem. Gov. Gavin Newsom’s Ex!?”

  65. E.M.Smith says:

    My bad. Freightbroker is NOT a .com, but a .tv

    https://www.freightbrokerlive.tv

  66. Another Ian says:

    “Now the big question is: Try to leave a few shots for my son at my wake, or assure it is empty prior?

    8-)

    Decisions, decisions….”

    There is that story that starts off

    “Being of sound mind I …….”

  67. Power Grab says:

    @ HR re PT

    Hmmm… So that’s what my dad did for a living. Did I mention that, in his later years of practice, he was a pain control specialist?

    When I had my hysterectomy a few years ago, my home health nurse had seen something in my paperwork about ordering a physical therapist. She asked if I had seen a physical therapist. I said I hadn’t. I had no idea that was in the works. I couldn’t think of a reason why I would need one.

    On the recommendation of a friend, I got one of those torso binder thingies (I don’t remember the proper name for it) so it would hold my innards together and I could walk upright instead of bent over. Maybe it had something to do with that. Either that, or maybe it was so they could teach me how to get out of bed without tearing myself up. I also had that figured out. I rotated toward the center of the bed, then immediately rotated the other direction, toward the outer edge of the bed, swinging my legs over the edge. I think I’m using inertia, or something like that. It reminded me of how a woman of petite stature can walk a tall cabinet or shelf across the room without a dolly, and live to tell about it.

    You engineer types probably can describe that in terms that sound better.

  68. jim2 says:

    I say Trump should choose the best AND MOST CONSERVATIVE person for the job. Screw putting in a woman just for the SWJs. The Senate will have to manage the ghosts by procedure somehow. I’m sure they can find a way. Maybe make the Bimbat testify in the super secret closed hearing room in the basement, then sic the FBI on any “evidences” she claims to have. If nothing is found, kick her arse out.

  69. Power Grab says:

    Regarding the comment about California’s passing a law that continues to tax people after they move out of the state:

    If one leaves California and is retired or earning less money after leaving, would that tax be a set amount or a percentage? Or do we just not know until they write the law?

  70. jim2 says:

    BTW SWJ stands for Socialist Wacko Job-killer.

  71. E.M.Smith says:

    @PowerGrab:

    The law that was tried a decade or so back, and thrown out already, basically said retirement income from earnings in California were subject to California Income Tax. Whatever those rates became. So say you worked at Appke for 20 years, then retired to Nevada. Your 401 K, Social Security and IRA withdrawals would be reported on a California 1040 and taxed per the tax tables.

    The new proposed law is similarly flawed and will suffer the same legal death. It is proposed to only apply to multimillionaires, and be a new “Wealth Tax” on their net worth. Same idea, different machine. ~”You must have made that money here so we want a cut”.

    Asside from the Court already finding taxing non-residrnts is bogus, there is a small matter of enforcement. Multimillionaires can just, oh, pack off to Greece (Tom Hanks) and say “up yours”.

  72. E.M.Smith says:

    @Jim2:

    Trump’s 2nd choice behind Kavanaugh was a woman who had studied under Scalia. A Catholic, so will be attacked on religion, but very conservative AND young enough to stay in place for 40 years… He skipper her then due to only a few months on the Appeals Court. Now she has more experience…

    I would be quite happy with a Scalia like judge….

  73. Another Ian says:

    “Donald Trump: Supreme Court Pick Next Week; ‘Most Likely’ a Woman”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/19/donald-trump-supreme-court-pick-next-week-most-likely-a-woman/

  74. Another Ian says:

    “Think they took the mercury out of the vaccines? Think again!

    I had thought it had been removed too. How it can be in a vaccine, without being labeled as being there, is explained during this interview. Quite an eye opener!

    ‘VR 2020 Updated Exclusive Interview’ There’s a time limit on the free viewing but it lasts for another 18 hours.

    https://vrevealed.com/viewing/?ep=5#

    Via http://joannenova.com.au/2020/09/weekend-unthreaded-327/#comment-2366357

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  75. Another Ian says:

    ““Return To Eden” by Marijn Poels, Now Free Online ”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/09/20/return-to-eden-by-marijn-poels-now-free-online/

  76. Simon Derricutt says:

    EM – may not be a good idea to be the last one to leave California. See https://babylonbee.com/news/doh-last-remaining-guy-who-hasnt-fled-california-now-has-to-pay-all-the-taxes

    Trouble with the Babylon Bee is that so many of their satire pieces are not that far from the truth.

  77. E.M.Smith says:

    @Simon:

    Tim Pool recently had a piece where Babylon Bee had a farce story, then hours later, the democrats did it…

  78. Another Ian says:

    Wool face masks – an article in “Beyond the Bale” on this – reusable too

    https://www.woolmark.com/fashion/shop-wool-face-masks/

  79. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    For that scratched itchy red welt face look?

    8-)

    And yes, I know fine wool isn’t that way…. OTOH, I remember this one cheap shirt…

  80. Another Ian says:

    And I also remember a Pendleton wool shirt of the same flavour.

    But there is “Wool for the 21st Century”, where

    ” that scratched itchy red welt face look”

    is from the disease.

    China buys the scratchy stuff for uniforms

  81. Another Ian says:

    Form guide points it seems to me

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/19/supreme-court-latina-judge-barbara-lagoa-eyed-possible-nominee/5840189002/

    Form guide points

    “She is a Cuban American from a battleground state Trump needs to win in November.”

    “The president nominated her for the Atlanta-based 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals last September, and she was confirmed by an unusually lopsided 80-15 Senate vote in November.” so being a Catholic wasn’t a problem then. Could be used now but capital letters hypocracy.

  82. cdquarles says:

    @Simon,
    Just like the best jokes, the best satire has truth in it.

  83. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    Re “The secret code breakers” and how they were treated

    ” He was seconded to the US Army. So, in the end, he got nothing as an Australian war veteran and nothing from the Yanks. Neither recognised him as being in their forces. Eventually got Vet medical assistance in the last couple of years of his life. I’d have to find his full story but he was seconded early and was around at Pearl Harbour trying to warn people the Japs were coming. Later he was a Coast Watcher in the Phillipines which must have taken some serious internal and external fortitude sitting up there on his own. . I think he was in the group responsible for the US Airforce getting a Japanese General. Interesting very humble man. Must have been quite brilliant.

  84. philjourdan says:

    @PG – regarding taxing people after they left the state. Uh, Maybe they should look at the constitution? Good luck with them enforcing it!

    As Arnie would say – Hasta la Vista!

  85. Another Ian says:

    “Absolutely Perfect – Florida Governor Introduces “Law Enforcement Protection Act”…”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/09/22/absolutely-perfect-florida-governor-introduces-law-enforcement-protection-act/

  86. Another Ian says:

    ““Saddleback College held a discussion on potential new mascots…”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/09/23/saddleback-college-held-a-discussion-on-potential-new-mascots/#comments

    And comments

  87. cdquarles says:

    Very interesting thread here, and yes, it is a math/model thread. Enjoy: https://twitter.com/federicolois/status/1308552081117151233 your introduction to epidemiology.

  88. YMMV says:

    and there is interesting news at the current end of that thread: https://twitter.com/C1aranMurray/status/1308767945624035328
    “Belgium just announced that PCR tests will no longer be relied upon as a guage of the prevalence of the virus, hospitalisations will. Despite (apparent) rising cases, masks no longer mandated outdoors.”
    It’s not clear what exactly Belgium announced, but it seems to be a step in the right direction.

    Nic Lewis has a herd immunity update: https://judithcurry.com/2020/09/22/herd-immunity-to-covid-19-and-pre-existing-immune-responses/

    There are also reports that the Dengue Fever vaccine protects you from Covid. Totally different families, but yet …

    And evidently Dr. Faucci says he takes 6000 IU of Vit-D per day.

    Strange times.

  89. YMMV says:

    Here is a must-see video, a beautiful rant about testing. He comments that when there is a positive test, what do we do? Send them home and hope they get better? HCQ and Ivermectin and more are taboo. There is no aggressive prophylactic campaign (info about Vitamins etc). CDC and FDA are indifferent; they are just waiting for it to blow over. Don’t get sick because we can’t trust the health system to take care of us.

  90. E.M.Smith says:

    @YMMV:

    Yeah, I’m really disappointed at the total lack of proper information distribution about vitamins, zink, and more from the WHO / CDC / Drug Cartel / Government (but I repeat myself…)

    The blatent POLITICAL spin put on Blacks is disgusting. Letting God Only Knows how many excess deaths happen in the Black community instead of saying “Take 2 to 4 thousand IU of D”.

    I just hope that in some small way my “Dig Here!” into it has helped point folks at the Ph.Ds and M.D.s who where telling us abut what works.

  91. Another Ian says:

    “Senator Rand Paul Confronts Dr. Anthony Fauci For Months of Lies and Manipulative Statements….”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/09/23/senator-rand-paul-confronts-dr-anthony-fauci-for-months-of-lies-and-manipulative-statements/

  92. Another Ian says:

    “Senate Releases Damning Report of Hunter Biden Foreign Payments and Influence Sales – Money, Hookers and Bribes…”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/09/23/senate-releases-damning-report-of-hunter-biden-foreign-payments-and-influence-sales-money-hookers-and-bribes/

    You could say that the smell doesn’t seem to be roses

  93. H.R. says:

    I saw my Dr. today for the annual Medicare wellness check. I’m just too bushed to write much tonight, but we covered a lot about the Wuhan Flu that has been discussed here.

    She was well aware that Fauci touted HCQ + zinc in 2006 and was steamed about the political corruption destroying any truly rational response to the very real threats of Covid to the vulnerable while the less or non-vulnerable were being made to jump through hoops. She has a mighty low opinion of CDC, WHO, Fauci et al, and our State Health Director.

    What I wanted to be sure to share is about vaccines. She asked if I had a flu vaccine for the year. I said no, and I wasn’t really interested given my current level of preventative measures. She wasn’t going to push it either way. She did tell me that three flu strains are starting the rounds in our region and the vaccine makers made a lucky guess this year and their vaccine would target those strains.

    Every year I make a take/no take flu shot decision after the Dr. tells me how well the vaccine makers guessed on the bugs that were coming through. Some years she says they are a flop, and I just skip for that year. I have no problems or reactions to flu vaccines, so since she thought it was good match this year, I went ahead with one.

    BUT… that also raised the topic of the Covid vaccines that are coming. I told her that I would absolutely not be getting one for the first round, and maybe never. Sunnuvagun! My Doc was on board with that. She is leery of the Covid vaccines.

    I told her I would consider getting a Covid vaccination after they first give it to everyone in the House and Senate, their staffers, the CDC, and WHO and we wait a year to see what happens. She laughed and said, not exactly jokingly, that she was on board with that.

    Too much more to write, but the upshot is that she’s angry with the politicization of the Kung Flu fiasco and very, very disturbed(?) – I can’t think of the right word, but it’s more than just anger or resentment – by the government interference in the Dr./Patient relationship.

  94. YMMV says:

    This is a very good interview with the doctor who clued Trump in on HCQ.
    As a doctor, his role is to keep people out of the hospital. And he has been successful.

    He goes into detail on his protocol and what to use if you can’t get HCQ (with zinc of course).
    (Including his dosage for Ivermectin) and how important early treatment is.
    Some interesting points: HCQ works faster and better in a spray form. When Covid is only in your sinuses it is easy to treat and it is much harder to treat once it gets to the lungs.

  95. cdquarles says:

    Hmm, so having cross-reactive IgA would help. Nice. I want to say that when we first became aware of true anti-virals back in the HIV/AIDS days, it quickly became clear that you needed early treatment with them, preferably when first *exposed*. Well, you’re never going to get that 100%, just like you are almost never going to have 100% vaccines or even 100% natural immunity. Even acquired immunity can be lost.

  96. Power Grab says:

    @ HR (and anyone else who has insider knowledge) re:
    “I saw my Dr. today for the annual Medicare wellness check. ”

    Grumble…grumble…

    I’ve been sniffing around to see if I would be forced to receive treatments/tests that I prefer to avoid, if and when I sign up for Medicare. An “annual wellness check” is in the category of what concerns me.

    Since I’m still working and covered by my work health insurance, I was told by one of our HR folks that I would not be forced to sign up for Medicare while I’m still working. (I had asked about the things I’d heard that, if you didn’t sign up for Medicare within 6 months of reaching age 65, you would be penalized.)

    So how about it, Gentle Reader? If you are on Medicare now, how does it compare to the coverage you had previously? Do they force you to do/take stuff you would rather not? Are they willing to enable you to get treatments/operations you do want, or do they block you?

    What rating (on a scale of 1 to 10) would you give your health insurance, and why?

    What rating (on a scale of 1 to 10) would you give Medicare, and why?

    If you don’t want to answer for yourself, you can answer “for a friend”. ;-)

  97. cdquarles says:

    If you don’t sign up for Medicare Part D in time, there is a lifetime penalty attached to when you do sign on. If you have another supplement that takes care of that, use it.

    Medicare and particularly Medicaid, depending on the state, is *way* worse than nearly any commercial medical care plan I know of. The absolute worst were anything attached to the Veterans Administration. Been on both sides of that. There are far more care limitations with government dominated plans than any other I am familiar with (that means more paperwork/approvals, care coverage denials, caregiver/provider limitations, and etc.).

    That’s why I am on a Medicare Advantage plan.

  98. cdquarles says:

    Oh yeah, with Trump, those still live. They were at risk under NoCare.

  99. cdquarles says:

    So, if you can pay the premiums, buy virtually any commercial plan available to you and make Medicare secondary. They typically will do Medicare Part D for you. If not, try to get the best Medicare Advantage plan that is available to you. Those also typically will do Medicare Part D for you.

  100. cdquarles says:

    Oh, another thing. Check your state’s rules on how insurance companies may operate. Mine has a mandatory minimum solvency and payout ratio. Mine also limits how much any plan may interfere with the doctor/patient relationship. Your providers should read their reimbursement contracts with any insurance company carefully and this includes Medicare and Medicaid. That is why some providers have gone to prepaid subscription/concierge models.

  101. H.R. says:

    @Power Grab – Per cd’s comment, you must enroll in medicare else the penalties are steep. But… you don’t have to be covered by medicare. If an employer or pension plan gives you better coverage, yes, you still enroll with medicare, but you decline coverage; no premiums and no government involvement.

    That’s quite common for folks who are covered by their retirement. But do enroll! If things change, then you can go with medicare any time you want.

    What cd said!!!!!!: Medicare pretty much sucks, but with a good medicare supplement plan, the coverage of the two combined can be outstanding.

    That’s what I did. I sought out and bought a Gold Plated Medicare supplement plan. I am covered going to any doctor that accepts medicare. There is no such thing as ‘out of network.’ My annual deductible is $168 dollars. No copays for Dr. visits. Once I’ve paid that $168, anything not paid by medicare is paid by my supplement insurance. Oh. dental, vision, and prescriptions are covered under separate plans, but it’s all the same as before I went on medicare.

    The cost? My total insurance bill – medical, dental, vision, Rx – is $1,000 less PER MONTH! than what I had pre-retirement. Oh, and the out of pocket deductible went from $5,000 to that laughable $168.

    I am very happy with my current insurance situation.

    As far as government meddling goes, I have not experienced it yet. I am very concerned about it if the country continues its Marxist left turn. So vote Trump. He’s trying steer the country in the opposite direction for healthcare, and most other areas of policy.

  102. E.M.Smith says:

    Sign up for Medicare on time in addition to your paid care. Make sure the part D is covered.

    Then, a while later, I signed up for the Kaiser Medicare Advantage Plus plan. Kaiser “Plus” includes dental, vision, and gym.

    I did this with Kaiser as my main insurance and noticed no change, other than my Kaiser premium dropped a few hundred. Kaiser is still Kaiser.

    On the other hand, Medicare Dental (in Kaiser Advantage Plus) has a requirement to use their plan dentist AND they must be primary coverage. I went to MY dentist, not knowing this. My excellent dental coverage declined coverage as Medicare is primary. Now I have to find out how to bill Medicare so they can decline coverage for “out of plan” dentist, thus freeing MY plan to pay as secondary coverage. The folks providing MY plan said they have this problem with everyone who gets that Medicare plan and eventually it gets paid… but had I known, I’d have done Medicare Advantage (no plus) instead of Medicare Advantage Plus (that I mostly took for the gym membership I can’t use now..,)

  103. YMMV says:

    Fox says Chelsea Clinton blames Trump for 200,000 Americans dead. Another Fox item says:

    Matthew Irvin, 26 of Yamhill County, Ore., fell ill in July, and upon a trip to the hospital, he was suspected of having the virus, was tested for it and then was sent home, according to Fox 12 Oregon.

    His step-father reportedly told the outlet the young man’s condition then worsened, and when family members contacted the hospital about re-admission, the family says they were told not to return unless Irvin had difficulty breathing. The young man died at home soon thereafter, said the report.

    THAT is what killed 200,000 Americans. Go home and die or stay in the hospital and be killed by a ventilator, but no choice for an immediate, effective treatment. That cannot be blamed on Trump. We can blame that on Trump haters. As Dr. Zelenko said, they would rather let 200,000 Americans die than let Trump get credit for anything.

  104. cdquarles says:

    @ Another Ian,
    Outside Huntsville, AL was a space museum. There was a lunar module there and a Saturn V rocket, which was moved to the welcome center near Athens on I 65 a few miles south of the AL/TN border. In said museum, they had a bicycle set up so you could pedal and light up a string of light bulbs. My personal peak was 250W, or all 5 bulbs in the string. I could do 50W for hours, if I wanted to. That said, I was young then. :)

  105. cdquarles says:

    Oh, that reminds me. A typical human radiates 50W each day.

  106. Another Ian says:

    “Sidney Powell Discusses Explosive New Texts and Documents With Lou Dobbs – Corrupt FBI Officials Even Purchased Professional Liability Insurance…”

    Suggested providers

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    Coup Insurance?

    Suggested Slogans for FBI Coup Insurance:

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    We Are Content Farmers

    We Know A Thing Or Two Because Our Cameras Have Seen A Thing Or Two

    Call the General McMaster

    You’re In Good Hands With DeepState

    Relax. You’re Insured With Chubb Vindman

    So Easy a Caveman Like Brennan Can Do It

    Own A Piece of the Rock That We Put the Messages Under

    Liberty Mutual Assured Destruction

    Get To a Better State or Preferably, a Country Without an Extradition Treaty

    The Quiet Company in Maclean, Va.

    15 Minutes Could Save You 15 Years in Leavenworth!”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/09/24/sidney-powell-discusses-explosive-new-texts-and-documents-with-lou-dobbs-corrupt-fbi-officials-even-purchased-professional-liability-insurance/comment-page-2/#comment-8816131

  107. philjourdan says:

    @HR – My doctor wants to deep six Fauci as well. He made no bones about it. I am in a blue state so required to wear masks. But the truth is they are useless. And it is political. And Fauci is an idiot! And I am tired of my rights being a political pawn of the damn democrats.

  108. philjourdan says:

    As long as you or your spouse are on major medical plan, the deadline for signing up is extended. My wife turns 39 anniversary of 26 in a few months. I do not. So I will continue to the the Part A and B and D. (she will sign up for Part A as it is free).. But she will not be penalized for not signing up for the rest of them until I retire. I checked on that.

    Before I do retire, I am going to pay the bucks for an expert. I know enough to know that I am not qualified to know the diabolical machinations of government!

    So 6 months before I retire, I will pay the bucks to figure it out. Damn government!

  109. jim2 says:

    I’m still working and have health and prescription coverage via employer. As long as that’s the case, I don’t have to sign up for Medicare Part B or D and as long as I sign up when I retire, I won’t be penalized. I do have Part A, which is “automatic???”, but have never used it.

  110. cdquarles says:

    Yes, if you’ve paid the Medicare taxes (3.5% from you directly and 3.5% from you indirectly via employer matched money, if I am remembering correctly), part A is automatic at 65. For certain disabled people you get Medicare roughly 2 years after permanent disability as determined by the Social Security Administration; so there are some on Medicare younger than 65.

  111. Another Ian says:

    FBI hitting well at SDA – 3 straight

    “When The FBI Does It, That Means That It’s Not Illegal”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/09/24/when-the-fbi-does-it-that-means-that-its-not-illegal-176/

    And the next 2

  112. H.R. says:

    @phil – My wife has, as a part of her benefit package, free consultation with a company that advises on Medicare plans and finds insurers that match your wants and/or needs. Spouses get to use the service, too.

    If it wasn’t free, I would have paid a fee to get good advice on the best plans for me. It’s worth every penny. You’re wise to seek assistance right from the start.

    I tried on my own and soon realized it wasn’t going to get me a good result.

    So I asked for ‘gold plated’ just to see what the worst case cost would be and they came back with three choices for the medical plan and three for the Rx plan. The plans were slightly different in premiums, copays, and deductibles but the coverage was pretty much the same and geared for my existing needs, primarily my diabetes. All I had to do was pick one that best suited my budget.

    Viola! The one with zero copays, see any doctor, and the $168 deductible was $116 per month, so I chose that. The other two had slightly lower premiums, but some copay and a bit higher deductible.

    That’s the kind of results you should expect for your fee.

  113. Another Ian says:

    FYI – proverbial and fan?


    Robert Mueller Investigative Agent Recently Testified Special Counsel Operation was “Intended to Get Trump”…”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/09/25/robert-mueller-investigative-agent-recently-testified-special-counsel-operation-was-intended-to-get-trump/

  114. Another Ian says:

    “Today’s journalism:
    1) Establish a narrative.
    2) Sit on ass fishing turds from Twitter to support it. https://t.co/CKGLM0A3QU

    — Katewerk (@katewerk) September 25, 2020″

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/09/25/your-moral-and-intellectual-superiors-223/#comments

  115. jim2 says:

    I brought up with my MD the fact that several front-line covid treating doctors had endorsed HCQ/Zinc/azithromycin as a beneficial treatment. So I say to him, so is it the doctors who are lying and/or incompetent or the government lying and/or incompentent? He said the triple combination was effective. But he had no opinion on ivermectin.

  116. Another Ian says:

    Governmental responsibility re-defined

    Cartoon at

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/09/johannes-leak-nails-andrews-.html

  117. philjourdan says:

    @CD – 1.45%. SS is 6.2% for a total of 7.65%. For each – employee and employer.

  118. philjourdan says:

    @HR – That is the best advice I have gotten, and I think when the time comes, I will go with paying for the advice. I figure I have 2.5 years to go (that will be when I am 66 1/3 so at full retirement age).

  119. Another Ian says:

    Relevant to eating – happenings in Canada

    “Cabernet Rin Tin Tin”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/09/27/cabernet-rin-tin-tin/#comments

    And the comments!!!

  120. YMMV says:

    “On the epidemiology of influenza”, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2279112/
    Not new (2008) and not about Covid; interesting because it dares to questions assumptions. One particular assumption is so common, it’s practically an axiom. That the virus spreads from sick people to well people. Very bold.

    Keeping an open mind, what would that mean for Covid? We apparently know the time interval that the virus shedding occurs when a person gets sick. Have we established that the sicker the patient, the more contagious he is? In particular, those we call asymptomatic, those that never get sick

    The paper speculates that when the Vit-D level of the population is high, fewer people will get sick from infections, yet silent spreading is still ongoing, keeping the virus around. Then when Vit-D levels go down in the Winter, more people will get sick.

    When the idea of squashing the curve started, it was meant to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. But then it morphed into stopping the virus. I saw some government modelling (FWIW). They showed that with no restrictions, the whole thing would be over by New Years. They also showed that with severe restrictions, the thing goes on for years. Unfortunately, that makes sense. To stop the virus you have to stop every single copy. Not going to happen. Reducing the R value can make it fade, but as long as there some somewhere, it is a sleeper cell, waiting for its opportunity.

    So take lots of Vitamin-D. You know what would be funny — Trump endorsing Vitamin-D. Why not, all the other bureaucrats are ignoring it. Perfect opportunity. Let them start attacking Vitamin-D, how bad it is for you.

  121. Another Ian says:

    ” Good sign we’re onto something: the Chinese research database revoked access from whoever found the Chinese-language 2013 MSc and 2016 PhD theses confirming that in 2012 these was a SARS-like pneumonia outbreak in a mine from which WIV got RaTG13/4991 — closest SARS2 relative. https://t.co/JLV6nhtpex

    — Yuri Deigin (@ydeigin) September 27, 2020 ”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/09/28/one-flu-out-of-the-wuhan-nest-17/#comments

  122. ossqss says:

    Why is the updated IFR senarios chart at the bottom of this CDC write up NOT in the news?

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

  123. cdquarles says:

    Doesn’t fit the narrative ;p.

  124. cdquarles says:

    Excellent thread referencing the current state of play with coronavirus vaccines for SARS-CoV-19: https://twitter.com/florian_krammer/status/1310372301314101250.

  125. cdquarles says:

    Interesting, to me, model paper comparing the standard SEIR homogeneous population dynamic with a heterogeneous one: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.26.20202267v1.full.pdf. Paper is based on European numbers.

  126. Another Ian says:

    “Remember the Strzok-Page “Insurance Policy” Exchange – FBI Special Agent Barnett Exposes the Hole Card”

    https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/09/28/remember-the-strzok-page-insurance-policy-exchange-flynn-investigation-case-agent-adds-insight/

    Via SDA

  127. Another Ian says:

    More “smart appliances” – you coffee fans beware!

    “This Hacked Coffee Maker Demands Ransom and Demonstrates a Terrifying Implication About the IoT”

    https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/09/this-hacked-coffee-maker-demands-ransom-and-demonstrates-a-terrifying-implication-about-the-iot/

    Via SDA

  128. Power Grab says:

    The “Hacked Coffee Maker” article didn’t mention an animated movie called “G Force”. They should have. If that movie won’t make you think twice about participating in the IoT world, nothing will.

  129. E.M.Smith says:

    Knowing the near complete lack of real security in commercial home routers and other small gadgets is WHY I refuse to put them on my network in my house. IF it is ever my only choice, it will be in a dedicated DMZ with no other stuff. Any hacked devicd will be returned for a refund (I’m not wating my time…)

    FWIW: I make my coffee with a paper filter, plastic funnel, a pan and fire. Tastes fine to me!

  130. Another Ian says:

    “FWIW: I make my coffee with a paper filter, plastic funnel, a pan and fire. Tastes fine to me!”

    OTOH there seems to be a lot of “old socks” coffee made with flash machinery

  131. Another Ian says:

    “The Real Reason They Hate Nuclear Is Because It Means We Don’t Need Renewables”

    Sounds about right

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/02/14/the-real-reason-they-hate-nuclear-is-because-it-means-we-dont-need-renewables/#24baad27128f

  132. Simon Derricutt says:

    Another Ian – also see https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-54211450 where Justin Rowlatt (gasp!) actually tells people that their worries about radiation are misplaced, and that nuclear power is actually a lot safer (based on actual deaths and illnesses caused) than other methods. It surprised me to see that….

  133. H.R. says:

    @Simon D – When you think about it for more than a minute (the anti-nuke-crowd never has done that) – it’s clear that there are a lot of injuries, illnesses, and deaths associated with extraction, processing, and delivery of fossil fuels. The same can be said for wind and solar, though I’m hard put to imagine that those manufacturing processes are quite as dangerous as oil and coal extraction.

    Once the power is generated, then it’s pretty much dead even as they are using pretty much the same distribution system. Uhhh… not counting home wind, solar, or FF generator backup systems where the home owner plugs in their backup source outside the house while standing in a few inches of water ;o) Let’s not discuss that, eh?

  134. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    On of the other bits of none thinking: disasters.

    The rooftop solar I have seen in California is all designed to prevent stand alone operation. It must sense grid supply or it shuts down the inverter. Once, decades back, I wanted solar so I could have power during outages. Imagine my response on being told they didn’t really do that and it costed $ thousands more….

    Now also asks what happens with a kW or 3 live on the roof and the quake takes the roof down. The panels don’t stop as long as there’s sun, and broken wires do what?

    Then what about that LIon battery powerwall in the garage in a great quake….

    I walked.

  135. Simon Derricutt says:

    H.R. – rereading that I need to point out that I was surprised that the BBC published this at all, not that nuclear power is safer.

    Even though it’s not often mentioned, among the budget for any project is an estimate of the number of deaths (or micromorts, for smaller risks) it will entail. That new football stadium in Qatar has already used that quota, I think. Still, do anything big and people will die as a result. Digging coal up has always been a dangerous job, oil rigs have accidents, people will probably fall off wind turbines and, for the offshore ones, people will drown. Solar is pretty safe, though I expect a few people to fall off a roof, or fall through it.

    Still, even if we’re aware of this, most of us don’t worry too much because it’s someone we don’t know and never heard of. Until an excessive number die, that’s just the risks of life. The people who connect their generators in when it’s raining win Darwin awards. We just calculate based on normal care, normal intelligence, and choose the low-risk option where possible. After that, it’s down to luck.

  136. Simon Derricutt says:

    EM – added to that is that, at least in Kalifornia AFAIK, if you have solar panels on the roof and the house catches fire, the fireys will watch it burn rather than risk trying to put it out. Again, they can’t be turned off, and breaking a hole in the roof to pump water in is a bit dangerous.

  137. cdquarles says:

    Dang, where is that thread where we discussed Medicare? I received my Medicare book for the upcoming year. There are some changes it seems from what I remember last year. An important one is the price transparency one. Those of you who are going to be new to Medicare should seek second and third opinions about your options, including paid ones if you can afford it.

  138. H.R. says:

    Thanks for the reminder, cd. I received and glanced through my 2021 Medicare book and didn’t notice anything in particular needing my attention. I’d better have a closer look.

  139. cdquarles says:

    Another suggestive T-cell cross-immunity paper in Nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00808-x?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=organic&utm_campaign=NGMT_USG_JC01_GL_NRJournals. An issue is the small numbers, so this one needs to be repeated quite a bit and use differing ethnic populations to better generalize conclusions.

  140. cdquarles says:

    Interesting: https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1311709653047402496. What I conclude from this is that influenza was partially replaced by Sars-CoV2. Hmm. Part of me wants to say flu was obscured by the COVID hype. Both present, more flu death (direct and indirect) got attributed to COVID than it should have. I suspect politics. I wish I could be snarky about that.

  141. Another Ian says:

    I don’t know if this has been posted before but again for emphasis wouldn’t hurt IMO

    “Kulak is the Russian Word for ‘Deplorable’ ”

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/03/kulak_is_the_russian_word_for_deplorable.html

    Methinks deplorables better get more deplorable

  142. H.R. says:

    @cdquarles re “every death was a Corona death” ;o)

    Yup. What happened to good ol’ seasonal flu? Near as I can tell no-one got regular old plain vanilla flu over the past year.

    I mentioned above that my Dr. was aware of three strains that were starting to make the rounds this season. She also said the vaccine makers guessed pretty good this year and it looks like this year’s vaccine will be pretty effective against them.

    But you know that anyone getting a case of flu is going to be coded Covid-19, even though there’s an excellent chance that any particular case is one of the seasonal flues. How else are we going to get a Second Wave?

  143. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    That Kulak article pretty much sums it up. IMHO, it is also why so much effort has gone into arresting and persecuting anyone who actually even just holds a gun in self defense against The Mob. They simply MUST effectively destroy the right of self defense as OUR deplorable kulaks have a lot of guns standing between THEIR Mob and our subjugation.

    There is a very clear, organized, and funded effort to promote a Marxist Progressive Revolution in the USA. To mount a Color Revolution against Trump and We The People. Even down to the breaking of the election process to “de-legitimize” the election (one of the steps in a Color Revolution) so that post election they can claim cause for driving Trump from office.

    The big question is just going to be how many folks are seriously on each side, and willing to act on that. Stalin’s kulaks had not the means to act. Ours do. One hopes that simple fact prevents the need to act.

  144. p.g.sharrow says:

    I am well aware of the training of Antifa/BLM to provoke reaction to their activities in order to use the authorities to actually suppress self defense. They record the events, use selected clips to “prove” that they were the ones assaulted to bring official legal action against the people that they are attacking, in hopes to provoke armed conflict between authorities and the local population. The authorities wanting peace, think that they can defuse the situation by demanding the the locals take it and stand down, back away from defending themselves. even run away from the threat! The Authorities are in fear of the press and lawyers that Protect these Professional Agitators.
    I just spent nearly 3 years dealing with a small group of these people that wanted to take over my home/property through using these techniques. I’ve been threatened, cursed and assaulted. Had my things stolen or destroyed. Been “Swatted” twice and framed twice for assault. I’m still dealing with official actions from that last action while they have gone on to other activities elsewhere. When I complained to the authorities early on about these activities they suggested I flee! abandon everything thing, because it wasn’t worth the risk. RISK HELL ! I spent 4 years in Southeast Asia playing war.
    On their last two forays, because of complaints, the sheriff deputies were very apologetic, They were required to show up, but they knew about the game being played and the people involved. I guess being a 70+ old warrior has earned me some respect. On the last attempt a young man insisted, that I attacked and injured him, wanted charges against me, The Sargent looked at him and his “injury” and said are you sure you want to tell a judge that a disabled 72 year old could attack and injure a buff 26 year old man. Their recording of the altercation seemed to show him swinging a steel bar at me as I pulled him down. So the Deputies confiscated the “weapon” and left.
    That group finally left as they weren’t profiting from their actions and the authorities were getting too interested in their other activities, but their actions have left me with other possible legal problems. Only one Soros ADA is needed to make things much worse for me while those people move on to create other depredations elsewhere.

  145. p.g.sharrow says:

    Steven Mosher on China at Hillsdale College 10/02/2020
    An hour presentation by Mosher on American – Chinese enteractions over the last 30 years. A useful set of observations from Stevens interactions with the CCP. as well as the Biden family involvement.

    well worth the listen…pg

  146. H.R. says:

    YAY! Iowa State beat Oklahoma for the first time in 24 meetings! I just love an underdog. There are a very few people who bet the impossible long-shot that are rolling in dough right now. They are probably Cubs fans, too ;o)

    I had the best day today.

    6 :00 am – Got 4 hours of sleep sitting upright on the couch.
    8:00 am – Fed the dogs and then pooper scooped
    9:30 am – Went for a 2.5 mile walk
    10:30 am – Mrs. H.R. made breakfast with only 60% help from me
    1:00 pm – Taught Mrs. H.R. How to make a chicken/peppers/onion quesadilla
    .
    Cat Naps to make up for missing sleep
    .
    3:00 pm to 6:00 pm – FISHING!!!!!!!!!

    I have a high tech cane pole that I bought for fishing the lily pads that choke Florida ponds. It’s 13′ long and I have 13′ of 10# braid on it. I caught SIX bluegills using three red worms and then called it a wrap. BTW, I was more adroit with a cane pole at 6 years than I am now at 66 years :o)

    YAAAAAAY! Fish! that’s probably the longest stretch in years (since June ’20) that I’ve gone without catching a fish,

    It gets better. I get home from fishing and Mrs. H.R. has fed the dogs AND fixed her own dinner! (I can. not. afford. the fireworks sufficient to celebrate that event)

    So I’ve spent the evening surfing all the college football games, had a few beers (screw the narc pain killers… I don’t like them) and have watched a good game between Iowa State and Oklahoma.

    Here’s hoping for another 4 – 5 hours of good sleep sitting upright on the couch,

    G’night, y’all. It was a great day here.

    P.S. Yesterday was the half-way point for the shoulder isolating sling imprisonment. It’s All downhill skiing from here. Uhhh… still probably 6 – 8 months from unrestricted fishing, though. Bummer. On the bright side, I can chug a beer left-handed, so all is not lost :o)

    P.P.S. – I suppose the Aussie and Brit contingent neer-do-wells of the Chiefio Blog will get this message from the H.R. bunker first so, g’day!

  147. Another Ian says:

    HR “YAY! Iowa State beat Oklahoma for the first time in 24 meetings! ”

    More patience required. Secondary school our boys went to just won its first rugby premiership in 66 years

  148. H.R. says:

    Hahahahahaha!

    So you had a good day, too. All is right with the world and God is in His Heavens… at least at two schools we know of. ;o)

    66 years!?! Yeehaw!!!!!

    Give the kid a whop on the butt and and a ‘Good job!’ from me while you’re at it.

    (Couch isn’t working. Obviously I’m still up and at ’em. Need another beer. Still happy for the kid.)

  149. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    I have somec40 foot tall timber bamboo in my yard. I wanted to make a cane pole using it.

    2 things stopped me.

    1) At 4 inch diameter at the base, it is too heavy to hold.

    2) It is over double my car length. How in blazed do I transport it?

    I have some more suitable size in a different species. But never get around to it as I’m always looking at the 4 inch x 40 foot stuff….

  150. H.R. says:

    I was marveling at how I could easily hold a 13′ pole at the base in my non-dominant hand.

    Yeah, cane poles are how we all started out, until cheap Chinese rods and reels took over.

    Ain’t modern materials grand?

  151. H.R. says:

    Okay. Couch… really… this time… for sure…

  152. beththeserf says:

    Sleep well H.R and catch a big fish termorrer.

  153. Another Ian says:

    HR

    Our boys finished there a few years before.
    And they were all rowers not footballers. Not sure if our drought dry creek was an influence on that choice. But it helped with first job references in this era with its stress on being part of a team. Even better they were all coxswains, so could claim some knowledge of team management.

    One migrated to surfboats after leaving school. I’m not sure what the official name of their boat was but it was known as “Kougar Bait”.

  154. E.M.Smith says:

    @BethTheSerf:

    It’s amazing! I always catch a really big fish…tomorrow… ;-)

    @H.R.:

    I have some nice phyllostachys nigra
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllostachys_nigra

    Where I’ve thought I could make a nice 10 foot pole out of a couple of stems… I think it would be kinda cool having a jet black bamboo pole ;-)

    (Cue SJW Rage Bait over Latin n-word for black in bamboo name… )

    Mine is darker than this stuff from France:

    It is a most beautiful bamboo. Starts out green, but by the 3rd year, for any one stem, is fully black. Stems are just thick enough for a pole, and thin enough to be very light weight. (Unlike my Timber Bambo, bambua oldhamii, where the walls of the stem can be nearly an inch thick of solid, so a 4 inch stem has the outer 2 inches (one each side) solid and only the middle 2 inches empty… think about what percentage of the volume that is… 2^2Pi – Pi or 3Pi of it is solid. 3/4 “wood”. 4 inch thick for several feet. It’s like holding up a 20 foot 2 x 4 from the end… Physics,it’s a thing…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambusa_oldhamii

    Bambusa oldhamii, known as giant timber bamboo or Oldham’s bamboo, is a large species of bamboo. It is the most common and widely grown bamboo in the United States and has been introduced into cultivation around the world. It is densely foliated, growing up to 20 metres (65 feet) tall in good conditions, and can have a diameter of up to 10 centimetres (4 inches).

  155. beththeserf says:

    E.M. Origin of the term ‘fishy’ ? \~

  156. Compu Gator says:

    Today is the last day of the traditional Bavarian Oktoberfest for 2020.

    I have no doubt that you’ve earned some mellowing out for persisting in your efforts as narrated in “Gentoo on Odroid XU4“. So step waaay away from computers and monitors and go treat yourself!

    Wine, no matter how meritorious otherwise, is not the appropriate beverage for the occasion.

  157. E.M.Smith says:

    @CompuGator:

    I was kinda wondering if anyone but me was interested in the XU4 Gentoo thread. But yeah, beer would be nice ;-)

    I’ve been treating myself to a musical night of videos (see recent thread)…

    I’m pretty sure I know what I need to do now to add Xorg to that build. Adjust the USE flags in the local build config file. Just taking some space between thinking I’ve got it and doing the implementation (and discovering where I didn’t got it… ;-) enjoying that warm glow of success for as long as I can (before the dawn of reality…)

    THE big hump was getting it to a running live system. That is done. The rest is just incremental learning Gentoo Admin and doing repeated source builds (that take hours…). I’m really tempted to get distcc set up first and start adding more cores for the compile steps. 8 is really nice, but 16 or 32 would be better ;-) (I already have 8 cores of Pi M3 ARMv7 Gentoo running… so it’s just ‘config distcc’ that I’ve done before on other OSs…)

    But it’s Sunday and the spouse thinks I’m supposed to rest… I figured lamb chops (yeah, couldn’t wait for Thursday ;-) baked potato and hours of music videos was “resting” ;-)

  158. Another Ian says:

    “Ottoman Empire Redux: Turkey’s Erdogan Tells the World ‘Jerusalem Is Ours’”

    https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2020/10/04/turkeys-erdogan-tells-the-world-jerusalem-is-our-city/

    Two can play at this. How about Italy activates a claim for Byzantium?

  159. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    Seems to me you ought to have a read of this

    “TheLastRefuge
    @TheLastRefuge2
    · 8h
    Replying to @SashaGe81290636
    Big tech attempting to remove site. Sorry, but the mobile platform was intentionally collapsed on 10-01-20 at 00:23 EDT and the host network, WordPress, is refusing to restore.”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/05/monday-october-5th-open-thread/#comment-8856601

  160. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    That Conservative Threehouse link is now dead… wonder what’s up.

    Per Italy:

    Nice idea! I think it is time for Rome to reclaim ALL of North Africa too! AND all of Turkey and Syria! At it’s peak, it pretty much covered everything of interest:

    Including all the lovely oil in Iran…

    Just inform Turkey that it has 6 months to vacate the Roman Lands or convert to Roman Catholic ;-) then watch the sparks fly ;-)

    (Yes, I know it is a ‘poking the bear’ point for humor and not a real suggestion… for anyone humorless who might think I’m being serious.)

  161. Another Ian says:

    “How to take down America.”

    https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2020/10/04/election-fraud-in-the-2020-election/

    “You won’t be voting for a president this coming November but for the survival of your whole system of governance and your very culture. It’s that important.”

  162. Another Ian says:

    CTH update

    “UPDATE: Ongoing Site Issues, and Apologies…”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/05/update-ongoing-site-issues-and-apologies/

  163. Compu Gator says:

    E.M. Smith said on 5 October 2020 at 5:42 pm GMT:
    I think it is time for Rome to reclaim ALL of North Africa too!

    Ummm, a fascinating rabble-rousing strawman.

    That now conceded, doesn’t Europe have enough of an actual burden or potential threat from North Africans already within its borders?  Practically all of whom adhere to some sect of Islam, and include an unknown subpopulation of jihadist moles?  What do you think is the relative density of the subpopulation of North Africans who would be a net asset to modern Italy, as distinct from a net liability?  Consider that as a sovereign nation where communists are acceptable as a political party, and its citizens meekly follow the ad hoc globalist political pronouncements of “Pope Francis” Bergoglio, annexation by Italy of North Africa would impose a great financial & social burden on Italy. Not only “bread and circuses”,  but also a guaranteed minimum income, health care, and education & social services for a likely majority of new citizens who don’t speak Italian (and who are possibly illiterate in any language). Plus construction on the far side of the Mediterranean that improves 3rd-World infrastructure for roads, sewage, and potable water to levels that are required in the E.U.  I assume that changes in Northern Africa toward a more arid climate, in the centuries since the Roman Empire,, notably in Egypt, make it no longer suited to serve as the breadbasket of a reassembled Empire. Sooo, the net benefit to Italy would be, what, exactly?

    But if you’re seeking a destination for deporting the tide of illegal immigrant and undeserving bogus refugee Africans &c. from Europe, then maybe, just maybe, it might be worth Italy regaining political control of North Africa. But I’m skeptical at best.

  164. E.M.Smith says:

    Umm…, I’m positing a Roman Empire redux style… and Rome often took the land but not the people… Most of the modern countries of N. Africa are longer N to S than the old Roman lands. So just let them keep the southern part…and move there.

    Rome also liked moving people all over, thus Jews of Spain… so any stragglers could just be moved to, say, Syria…

    All as a snarky troll baiting exercise, of course …

  165. Another Ian says:

    “Kamala”

    https://rosebyanyothernameblog.wordpress.com/2020/10/05/kamala/

    Willis with a fact or three

  166. ossqss says:

    Just an observation, but over the last several weeks I have been experiencing random redirects when on this site. Mostly, popscan or other antivirus troublemakers. I will purge my cookies again and see if it happens again today. Just kinda odd as it never happened prior.

  167. David A says:

    Perspective please…
    So what should one do. The CAGW scam has driven my electric bills to as high as 300 plus a month. For 17,000 minus a damm federal rebate, call it 13k, I can save most of that, call it a bit less then 3k a year; payback in under 5 years. While I don’t agree with it, I also don’t agree with the government driving up my cost to double what it should be. I am in Calif, and only see future costs increasing perhaps dramatically. Should I install solar? What is the right thing to do?

  168. David A says:

    BTW, latest Panasonic panels come with 25 year 93 percent efficient guarantee

  169. David A says:

    Also with the wholehouse fan I can run my AC and pool filter during the day when the system is not then flooding the grid. Retired, mostly home.

  170. Compu Gator says:

    E.M. Smith said on 5 October 2020 at 5:42 pm GMT:
    Just inform Turkey that it has 6 months to vacate the Roman Lands or convert to Roman Catholic ;-) then watch the sparks fly ;-)

    I’ll agree that modern Italy should be awarded priority for ownership of Istanbul [*].

    The pair of towns at the Bosphorus: Byzantium and Chalcedon, were in combination, among the world’s best-ever situated locations for trade, and it was the Doric Greeks who were perhaps earliest attested as recognizing that by establishing colonies there. So in the abstract, they should be awarded priority.

    But it’s impossible to reject a claim on behalf of the Roman Empire, for transforming Byzantium into the imperial capital that was originally called New Rome. As symbolized by the 2nd head on the Byzantine Eagle.

    I must confess to misgivings about such a revanchist arrangement. Whereas the Romans were not especially original thinkers, they were acknowledged as great administrators. At least they were before the waves of barbarians began to arrive in the West, which disrupted the practical education and other learning necessary to operate an empire. So it was either a blessing or just fortunate that the Catholic Church recognized the value of Roman principles of administration, and absorbed them into the Church’s organization. It wasn’t that the Church wanted to take over civil administration because they were “the Church”, it was as secular education declined, it was the Church that was left with nearly the only people who could do the job. Alas, I fear that the notoriously hot-blooded Roman descendants in modern Italy might prove, ummm, much less capable.

    ——-
    Note *: I’ve believed for years that “I·stan·bul” is simply the Romanized spelling of a pronunciation of “Con·stan·tin·o·polis” that was distorted by being absorbed to fit into Turkomongol language-models. Look at a map of classical Europe to see how the Romance languages, despite being descendants of Latin, have distorted Roman place-names.

  171. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A.:

    Leave California?

    “You can’t fight city hall ” IFF the subsidy is big enough, take it and run.

    Consider that a white roof dramatically cuts AC costs. Old LA photos pre AC show a sea of white roofs… Paint is cheaper than photocells.

    Note that YOU need to be the solar engineer. Several homes near me have panels installed on the NORTH facing roof! Estimates of power produced will be inflated.

  172. E.M.Smith says:

    @Compugator:
    https://www.etymonline.com/word/istanbul

    Istanbul
    Turkish name of Constantinople; it developed in Turkish 16c. as a corruption of Greek phrase eis tan (ten) polin “in (or to) the city,” which is how the local Greek population referred to it.

    No mention of Emperor Constantine…

    Personally, I’d like to see it return to Byzantium and be given to the Greeks.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantium

  173. David A says:

    Thanks EM, as my children and grandchildren are in the area, leaving likely won’t happen.
    ( Thought about it many times)

    I already modified the plans sent by three companies, all agreed that instead of two 12 panel systems in two locations squeezing 18 panels on the better of the two proposed roof lines, ( the more southern one vs South eastern) with peak efficieny, was a better plan.

    Also it is over the garage so less likely to be a major problem if the work produces leaks. Also closer to the distribution panel. The uninsulated garage would likely benefit from 180 sq’ if the most exposed roof being shaded by the panels. I am guessing much if the heat is converted to electrical work, and the roof itself is cooled.

    Well we will see. ” Only the government can create a sand shortage in a desert.”

  174. Another Ian says:

    Like the “tropical roof” option of earlier Landrover station wagons. This will give you an idea

    https://silodrome.com/history-land-rover-series-1/

  175. Another Ian says:

    “Trump says he has declassified documents related to Russia, Clinton email probes ”

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/06/trump-says-he-declassified-docs-related-to-russia-clinton-email-probes/

  176. E.M.Smith says:

    One wonders if thinking “Maybe I don’t make it” on the way to the hospital might have convinced Trump to dump the October Surprise load right away? Make sure what needs to get out, gets out…

  177. Compu Gator says:

    E.M. Smith said on 5 October 2020 at 5:42 pm GMT:
    Just inform Turkey that it has 6 months to vacate the Roman Lands or convert to Roman Catholic ;-) then watch the sparks fly ;-)

    Sparks” would certainly “fly” from Eastern Orthodox Christians, especially after the Great Schism between Western and Eastern Christians (1054), which had been made less likely to be resolved by meetings(s) in which an incendiary delegate from the pope clashed with a firebrand Greek metropolitan in Constantinople. To the Eastern Orthodox, the pope is merely a habitually presumptious regional patriarch among the original handful of Christian regional patriarchs.

    E.M. Smith said on 6 October 2020 at 10:02 pm GMT:
    Personally, I’d like to see [Istanbul] return to Byzantium and be given to the Greeks.

    Well, dang it, E.M.!  I’d already drafted most of the following reply, but had decided that what with me not being the host of Chiefio, I ought to submit my replies more slowly than I write them, from which readers could infer that I know my place.

    It’s easy to repurpose a subplot from The Life of Brian, and picture a Greek organizer for a 19th-Century revolt against the Ottoman Empire, sitting with fellow conspirators, and asking none of them in particular: “Well, what have those infidel Turks ever done for us?”  My answer would be that I can’t think of anything that the Greeks gained from conquest by the Turks. Well, there are historians (might they be islamophiles) who claim that Turkish taxes were lower than Byzantine taxes, for those Greek Christians who considered that more important than their automatic deprivation of civil rights.

    In the Golden Age of Greece and Classical times, what we know as western Turkey was a land of Greek language & culture. They named it Anatolia, from the word « ανατολή » (anatolḗ ), meaning sunrise, thus east. It was not exotically “oriental”, it was simply the eastern side of the horseshoe of Greek lands & culture around the Aegean. That eastern land, from the Aegean shore to approx. 30°E [@], plus Bithynia and Cilicia extending to approx. 36°E on the N. and S. coasts (respectively), was progressively assembled from local Greek colonies or alliances of Greek city-states, then Alexander’s Empire and the Seleucid Kingdom, then the Roman and successor Byzantine Empires, all the way into the Crusades of the A.D. 12th Century. Yes, it took time, because the Carians, Lydians, Mysians, and Trojans had early claims to the land, and there were repeated interruptions by Persian invasions (notably the Grecopersian War of 499–449 B.C.).

    So yes, partition Turkey so that more-or-less its western 1/3 is awarded to Greece, where so many places are so significant to the history of Western Civilization and Christianity.

    I’d start by demanding the return of Hagia Sophia, complete with all its Turkish-looted furnishings. Promptly, with no damage. That means, e.g., no mysterious fires despite an upgraded alarm system in the presence of Muslim-immigrant workmen. Devout Christian artisans would perform all the necessary restoration work (e.g., the iconic-art mosaics that were covered by Muslims), thank you very much. A repurposing of a Monty Python routine, featuring the Piranha Brothers at the Turkish-built “Blue Mosque” [☪], easily comes to mind: “I want to make sure we understand each other on how important Hagia Sophia is to the people who sent me. Y’know, imam, this sure is a pretty mosque y’ ’ave ‘ere, whut with all the blue tiles. And y’say it was built by a Turkish sultan?  It would be a real shame if anything were to, y’know, ‘appen to it.

    ——–
    Note @ : 30°E is approx. the longitude of historic Nicomedia: modern Izmit (not to be confused with modern Iznik: very historic Nicaea).

    Note ☪ : The Sultan Ahmed Mosque, known as the “Blue Mosque”, was contructed in Istanbul in the early 17th Century, on foundations of a Byzantine imperial palace, right next door to Hagia Sophia. So the latter is no longer needed by the Muslims of Istanbul. Yet Recep Tayyip Erdoğan obviously approves of the recently revised in-your-face Turkish policy of converting it back from a secular museum into a mosque.

  178. Power Grab says:

    I was just looking at Twitter. There is a lot of chatter about skid marks on bo’s unmentionables.

  179. E.M.Smith says:

    @Compugator:

    It was decommissioned as a mosque and made a museum due to support columns for the dome showing significant outward spread. It is expected to collapse in a great quake….

    One wonders what, oh, 500 dead muslims would do for Dear Leaders reputation…

  180. Another Ian says:

    ” Jeff of FNQ said…

    Is this a result of Trump’s announcement?

    DOJ Announces Press Conference Tomorrow at 11 AM ET “On a Matter of National Security” (02:00 AEDT Thurs 8 October,2020)

    https://twitter.com/kenbensinger/status/1313617719221084160

    ” Jeff of FNQ said in reply to Denise…

    Will be live streamed on:

    https://www.justice.gov/live

    Via Michael Smith

  181. Another Ian says:

    Suggestion at the same time as the VP debates?

  182. Another Ian says:

    A look at what Joe has signed you up for down a bit here

    “Hitching up to the Titanic”

    https://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/10/07/hitching-up-to-the-titanic/

  183. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    You’d better get out before it is mandatory


    steakman
    October 7, 2020 at 1:24 am

    Heres a High one for y’all

    File under “Sweet Saint Andreas”. (aka God Help us all)
    Kalifornia’s Governor has decreed that all those Dining out shall forthwith replace thine mask on after EVERY bite/mouthfull.

    I couldn’t have made this INANE shit up with 2 hits of Windowpane and a jug of GIN….let alone straight..!!

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-govs-diners-masks?fbclid=IwAR3y9PHKzuFAg2kKmXcq3lcK3tmDYGQ7rSRREiJ_wY0xHuQgbtpoLTJLv6o

    Via SDA

  184. Another Ian says:

    “His campaign is rooted”

    ” NEW: The New York Times editorial board endorses @JoeBiden for president: ”His campaign is rooted in steadiness, experience, compassion and decency” https://t.co/xaxUTONmhj

    — New York Times Opinion (@nytopinion) October 6, 2020 ”

    https://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/10/07/his-campaign-is-rooted/

    (Recall Commonwealth slang)

  185. p.g.sharrow says:

    If you are bored, my son is creating a SiFi novel and reading it into U-tube. At 22 chapters @10 to 15 minutes each, this could occupy some time! So far it holds my interest.

    As good as the stuff I read back in the 1950s. See if any of you find it interesting?…pg

  186. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Is that “rooted” like in “wild pigs rooted up my garden and destroyed it”?

    So Sniffer Joe is rooted in decency, tearing it up and…

    ;-)

    Per Gov. Nuesance: I’d care if I were going to restaurants; but sitting outside in bugs, traffic noise, and fire smoke makes it moot. The Dimocrats are Hell Bent on creating as much misery and chaos as possible pre election. I’m just hoping they get enough of a voter ass wooping to realize that was a mistake and Soros gives bad advice even if the money is good. The election committee keeps finding ways to quash recall petitions (we’re on our 3rd or 4th…) but each one gets more signatures and closer to impact. Someone must have something on him… The Machine moved him up fast and regularly, and protects him; and he does whatever he’s told… but folks are getting fed up with him.

    Per leaving: unfortunately, my planned ‘landing pad’ in Florida is no longer stable (house may be sold) so I need a rethink replan…

    @P.G.:

    I’m over commited right now, but maybe once Gentoo is working and rains have come…

  187. E.M.Smith says:

    The whitehouse link starts coverage at 31 minutes…

    Looks like 2 Isis guys from Iraq now in USA FBI custody are going to trial. Nice, but not what I was hoping for…

  188. ossqss says:

    Interesting read. Kinda like a non-fiction horror story! Doh!

    https://dailyreckoning.com/get-ready-for-chaos/

  189. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    In the sense that “rooting for a team” is physically possible but not yet quite socially acceptable

  190. jim2 says:

    Trump wants to make available free the same meds he took for anyone who needs it. Lemons => lemonade! It will be expensive, but it can help the economy roar back to life!

  191. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Ah, I see! …

    @Jim2:

    The Left hates nothing so much as an honest, moral, courageous and compassionate opponent.

  192. beththeserf says:

    @ Climate Depot. Soros/Gates funded $6.5 million to group that warns a warming world may need ‘climate lock-down’ in which guvuhmint would limit private vehicles’ use, ban red meat consumption and impose extreme energy-saving measures. a
    https://www.climatedepot.com/2020/09/25/soros-gates-funded-6-5-million-to-group-now-warning-world-may-need-climate-lockdown/

  193. E.M.Smith says:

    @Beththserf:

    Talk about your tone deaf timing… Just when folks in many countries are giving the fat middle finger to excessive lock downs…

    It sort of made sense in the first few weeks. Data were sketchy and looked horrible (since we didn’t know about asymptomatic cases nor the high survival rate of anyone under 60 ). So it was reasonable to prepare for an horrific plague. A good 30% or so of known cases where ending up in hospital headed for ICU and ventilators. (Now we know lots of that was due to some Governors sending contagious people to nursing homes to “spread the wealth”…). The idea of “15 days to slow the spread” was reasonable as blowing through hospital capacity would result in many more deaths. But now?

    Now we know about 1/3 of the population already have cross immunity and don’t get it at all.
    Now we know sub-Saharan blacks (lacking Neanderthal introgression and in the sun a lot) have very low rates of either infection or problems from it (it looks like some Neanderthal genes are targeted by the virus).
    Now we know that anyone under about 60 in good health is not going to die, and those under 30 often don’t even notice if they get infected.
    Now we know how to treat it with a half dozen different anti-virals, steroids, anti-clotting agents, etc. and we know that intubation is a bad idea.
    Now we know that prompt treatment cures and “wait for symptoms to worsen” is exactly wrong.

    So just when everyone is getting really really sick of “Lockdown” a good 9 months after “15 days”, now they want more and longer “lockdown” for “climate”? I think they are going to get a whole lot of people converted to climate skeptics… or at least revolutionaries…

  194. Another Ian says:

    And the answer is not 42

    “Study Finds Ideal Climate for Life Is Five Degrees Warmer than Present”

    https://climaterealism.com/2020/10/study-finds-ideal-climate-for-life-is-five-degrees-warmer-than-present/

    Via a comment at SDA

  195. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Is that 42 C or 42 F? (I guess neither of them is particularly good… 107 F or 5.5 C going the other way….

    Since we are told the warming mostly happens at the poles, I’m all for it. The peak temps stay about the same in the entire tropical band. All that happens (IF It were true…) is that the frozen bits become more hospitable…. All those New Yorkers who moved to Miami can move back ;-)

  196. Another Ian says:

    Digging, digging

    “Evidence Surfaces of John Durham Grand Jury – Team Following Deep State Rabbit Hole Leading to SSCI Effort…”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/08/evidence-surfaces-of-john-durham-grand-jury-team-following-deep-state-rabbit-hole-leading-to-ssci-effort/

  197. Compu Gator says:

    E.M. Smith said on 5 October 2020 at 8:52 pm GMT:
    [….] were I the driver, I’d appreciate a “test run” of maybe 5 minutes to shake out what works and where something was getting hard to put up with at 5 minutes and would drive me batty at […] 2 hours driving to D.C. and the White House. In fact, I’d ask for a dress rehearsal and shakedown run before doing the long drive.

    long drive“!?!?!?  Great L’Enfant’s ghost! 

    Ummm, where do you imagine that Walter Reed Med. Center [⚕] is located?  Are you imagining, e.g., that it’s somewhere up near Baltimore [⚓]?

    Altho’ the WRMC campus is located in Maryland, it’s in Bethesda (Montgomery Co.): Not only inside the Capital Beltway (I-495), but also just outside the N.W. border of D.C.  It’s practically next to the Rockville Pike (Md. 355), a major surface road, which soon turns into Wisconsin Ave.  Perhaps the simplest route to the White House would follow the latter all the way down to M St., N.W., in Georgetown (D.C.), near the D.C.-foot of the (Francis Scott) Key Bridge over the Potomac. From there, it’s only a few blocks southeasterly along Pennsylvania Ave., N.W., to the White House. I doubt that the total distance of a return drive could be more than a dozen miles; conversely, I doubt that WRMC is more than a dozen miles northwest of the White House.

    Any recent president ought to enjoy great travel-time, because local law-enforcement would’ve blocked off all roadways crossing his intended route, and the presidential motorcade would be escorted by motorcycle cops: D@µn the traffic lights! Full speed ahead!

    But having read that Pres. Trump returned to WRMC after his miniparade, he might as well have taken an elevator up to the roof, and been flown on Marine-1: the official presidential chopper, back to the White House South Lawn.

    ——–
    Note ⚕ : Over the years , all I’ve really needed to read or hear are the repeated references to WRMC being located in Bethesda (Md.). Yet I continue to read or hear references to “Navy”, altho’ I coulda sworn that Reed was an Army doc. As 1 respectable Web site would put it: “What’s up with that ?”

    Note ⚓ : In the Baltimore metro area and among various other Marylanders, newcomers didn’t need to be established for long before they adopted the local pronunciation “Bal’mer” or “Bal’m’r” (with varying degrees of authenticity). Down in the Washington metro area, the subject name remained fully pronounced, as in the insult to which I can personally attest in the mid-to-late 1970s: “The best parts of Baltimore are like the worst parts of D.C.”  That was before Bal’mer began its Harbor-restoration/gentrification project, so the insult might have faded somewhat..

  198. E.M.Smith says:

    Hey, I’m from California. It takes me 2 hours to get out of the SF Metroplex unless it is middle of the night. Then another 3 or 8 hours (depending on N S or E turn) to even get near another State.

    I keep forgetting folks back east have postage stamp States smaller than our counties…

  199. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    As the answer is “not 42” you don’t need to worry

    Comments above caused some further research.

    On areas of states Eldest son manages a ranch of a million hectares which looks like 10,000 sq km so almost as big as Connecticut

    If you search in DDG on “rooted” you won’t find this

    https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/root

    You need to search on “rooted idiomatic”

  200. Another Ian says:

    “LARRY PICKERING AUTOBIOGRAPHY – JUST LAUNCHED”

    https://richardsonpost.com/paulzanetti/18459/larry-pickerings-amazing-life-story/

    Two comments

    1. Might be a bit hard to find in USA

    2. I’ll definitely be reading it

  201. Another Ian says:

    Another view of that ranch – employs 42 people so there is room to move

  202. H.R. says:

    Today is the end of week 4 out of six weeks in arm-sling prison… and sleeping upright, if you want to call that sleeping.

    The conversation here has been good and I am bummed that I have been limited in my ability to join in due to my one-finger-plus-thumb-for space-bar typing.

    Anyhow, yesterday was in-person voting day. Our county has in-person voting at the County Board of Elections HQ. I’ve been concerned about voter fraud since I’ve received over a half-dozen unsolicited mail-in ballots. I did not want to go to the polls only to be told that “You have already voted.”

    Early in-person voting started on the 6th, but we were tied up and couldn’t make it to the polling place until yesterday, the 8th. This is the regular voting, real thing machines, sign the voter registration log when you officially vote, process. Nothing hinky about it and as secure as it can be, given the uncertainty of the times. Pretty good, I think, in our county.

    Good news! We got there before our vote could be hijacked, if it was going to be hijacked. We voted a MAGA ballot.

    Here’s the interesting part. That place was BUSY! It was fully staffed so the line moved quickly and steadily. There were 12 places to sign in to the register that you were voting and 25 (5 x 5) voting machines. I’d estimate that there were well over 100 people per hour voting.

    When I signed in, I asked how busy day one and day two were compared to day 3 when I voted and the poll worker said it was the same; a constant stream, and day 1 was really busy.

    I have no way of knowing, but my guess is that many or most voters are leery of mail-in fraud under their name, just like me, and that they are eager to vote. It’s a half-hour drive at most from anywhere in the county to that location, so I suspect that there won’t be a big crush on Election Day and there won’t be a lot of mail-in votes. It’s just too easy to drop by and check that your in-person vote will be the only vote, and the hours can accommodate just about anyone’s schedule.

    That’s the boots on the ground report from my neck of the woods. I have no clue how it is going elsewhere across this great land of ours.

    Only 38 minutes to type this. I’m getting faster ;o)

  203. philjourdan says:

    Our early voting started a couple of weeks before yours HR. So I voted Monday. The line was fairly long, but the site was well staffed and the line moved nicely. Took about 15 minutes. And yes, Straight MAGA ticket and my vote will not be hijacked.

  204. cdquarles says:

    No early voting for me. I plan to vote in person on Election Day, just as I voted in person on Primary Day. Sigh, yet another tropical system coming through … “Here comes the rain again”.

  205. YMMV says:

    There is a study in the news about people testing positive without symptoms. Since the news often mangles the facts, here is the actual paper:
    https://www.dovepress.com/three-quarters-of-people-with-sars-cov-2-infection-are-asymptomatic-an-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-CLEP
    (Irene Petersen, Aarhus Universitet)

  206. E.M.Smith says:

    Not voted yet, as there had been a question of California or Florida…. but our move got quashed (by various surprises) so I missed the Florida reg cut off. Meaning my vote will be a meaningless vote Against The Communist Tide in Kalifornia. Oh Well.

    I intend to do it on election day. IFF I’m told I’ve already voted, that will be cause for a stink and suing somebody…

  207. Another Ian says:

    Now this!

    “Fantastic Research – Presidential Debate Commission Ideology Exposed – Chairman Connected to Soros, Color Revolution and Steele Dossier Group…”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/09/fantastic-research-presidential-debate-commission-ideology-exposed-chairman-connected-to-soros-color-revolution-and-steele-dossier-group/

  208. Another Ian says:

    “New York Post has Pelosi sussed”

    “She’s coup-coup!”

    Relayed via

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/10/new-york-post-has-pelosi-sussed.html

  209. Another Ian says:

    “Covid tricks — spikes block pain pathway — hiding the infection”

    http://joannenova.com.au/2020/10/covid-tricks-spikes-block-pain-pathway-hiding-the-infection/

  210. H.R. says:

    OMG! Watching the Greg Gutfeld Show and on a 30-second “Breaking News” bit, they gasp and announce that there have been 30 million new cases of Wuhan Flu diagnosed WORLD WIDE!! in the past 3 days.

    Color me alarmed……………… not.

    I wanna know… how many died from the Chinese Virus? That’s all that matters.
    What if they reported 7 billion people got Covid-19?

    I say, SO?!?!?!?

  211. Another Ian says:

    Re rare earths

    “Geologists solve puzzle that could predict valuable rare earth element deposits”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/10/11/geologists-solve-puzzle-that-could-predict-valuable-rare-earth-element-deposits/

    And comments

  212. Another Ian says:

    “Here’s How President Trump Can Declassify Documents Around the “Authorization Process”… ”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/11/heres-how-president-trump-can-declassify-documents-around-the-authorization-process/#more-201485

  213. philjourdan says:

    @Another Ian – Re: Coup Coup –

    Love the play on words. And yes she is.

  214. Another Ian says:

    “The Plot Against the President from TurnKeyFilms on Vimeo.

    It’s 8$ to purchase and worth it. Support them.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/10/12/when-the-fbi-does-it-that-means-that-its-not-illegal-180/

  215. Simon Derricutt says:

    Peter Grant is watching the clouds build on the horizon, and expecting riots pretty soon, with various police forces suddenly getting short of officers as they retire “unexpectedly”. I hope he’s wrong, since he’s predicted stuff before that didn’t end up that bad, but maybe still worth reading and taking notice of.
    https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2020/10/getting-ready-to-rumble.html

    Of course, there’s a lot happening at the moment anyway, with the EU voting to commit suicide by 2030. https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/eu-parliament-votes-for-economic-suicide/ . I’ve got a big-enough woodpile to last a couple of winters, but who knows – they might ban burning wood here. With a maximum draw of 4kW for this house things might become a bit of a problem if I can’t get the 2LoT problem solved before that happens.

  216. H.R. says:

    @Simon D. re getting ready to rumble

    That’s pretty much the way I have been seeing things, although the number of police calling it quits was a lot higher than I was aware of.

    The ‘martyr’ issue is guaranteed. E.M. posted about color revolutions oh… about a couple of years ago, perhaps right around the last Presidential Election. There are plenty of expendable useful idiots that are deliberately put into the paths of bullets just so the leaders of the revolution can raise a stink and shout, “See?!? Look how brutal the government is. Soon they will kill us all. We must rise up and overthrow such a brutal regime! Then peace will return.”

    On the bright side, if you recall the map of the U.S. showing every county in the U.S. as blue or red, depending on how they voted, I think that “The Revolution” is going to have trouble gaining traction outside of the heavily blue areas. Almost all of the ‘stuff’ that the highly populated, geographically isolated blue areas need comes from the enormous sea of red counties.

    What if the red counties decide they just aren’t going to participate? I can easily see people in red counties deciding they don’t want to go into the blue cities anymore – it’s already happening – and red county businesses decide they don’t want to send employees into harms way so they quit sending supplies to cities.

    Sure, the revolutionaries can take over top government – that’s already happened in places – and try to then use that power to go after the rest of the populace. The current attempt is to do that at the Federal level.

    JMO, but I still think that the U.S.is still too spread out and too heavily armed for a color revolution to completely succeed in the U.S. at this point. They pulled the trigger one Democrat Presidency too early, though they are counting on getting that needed Dem Presidency this year by any means necessary.

    As it stands now, I see a color revolution fizzling out if Trump is reelected. There will be destruction and lives lost like we’ve not seen since the last civil war, but I don’t think a revolution will be successful if Trump has a second term.

    If the commies pull off the win, we are in for tragic times.

  217. p.g.sharrow says:

    Back in the Clinton administration they ran a war game on using the military to take control during wide spread civil unrest in the Bay Area. Their conclusion was that the Military “was not dependable” as a means to take control over the civilian population. If you remember there was a push by the Reno Department of Justice to suppress Right Wing Militias during this time because of their reaction over the Waco Massacre and the Ruby Ridge shoot out. The Obama Administration also tried to provoke a reaction that they could use for Official wide spread suppression, with the same result. America refuses to join with the Communists to gut their constitution.
    Now their story is that they are defending the Constitution against the Reactionary Right in a call to enlist the general population to their cause. From what I can see they are losing that argument as well. The planned revolution is failing and as their numbers dwindle their noise level increases, They are desperate to capture the prize before they become powerless…pg

  218. E.M.Smith says:

    One big issue for The Left was just that The Right has a lot of prepared strategic folks. When they started trying to do things like squash / defame “Militias” (despite it being a Constitutional Duty…) what happened was a whole lot of folks didn’t change their minds; they just got quiet and prepared more away from view. (I bought my reloading supplies and equipment about then ;-). Those who remember their history prepare to change it ‘next time’…

    This time their big mistake was loss of patience. “Someone” (Soros? China?) had a Schedule to Meet and when sHrillery lost, they pushed harder to stay on schedule. This tipped their hand and a whole lot of folks started noticing. Now it’s not just 50% that voted for Trump, it’s more like 50% voted for Trump and now know why that was good, along with many who voted against Trump and are now stunned at the duplicity, lying, open power grab, et. al. of The Left (along with sheer lawlessness and corruption of DAs, Mayors & Governors.)

    Was it enough of a cold water WTF in the face for enough people? Time will tell, but I think so. I hope so. Yes, we’re bifurcating as a country into a growing number of Zealot Useful Idiots vs a (hopefully growing faster) wide awake and watchful Centrist Nationalist to Right leaning “everyone else”.

    Judging by the NBA having 1/2 the normal audience (read revenue….) from their FINALS(!) and their commissioner basically saying “Oops. Our bad.” on the whole BLM in your grill thing, I’d put it at at least 1/2 the country saying not just “no” but “NO, and I’m not buying your crappy shit either.”.

    But The Left has a lot of sneaky slimy weasels, so constant vigilance will be required…

  219. p.g.sharrow says:

    @ Simon; Maybe you should revisit the Crook’s radiometer for some insight as to theories on why it works to vectorize random energy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer

  220. YMMV says:

    “But The Left has a lot of sneaky slimy weasels, so constant vigilance will be required…”

    Tried and true technique, used by criminals, from pick pockets all the way up the scale —
    Distraction. The Left has had the perfect distraction for four years now. TDS.
    They are so obsessed about Trump, all Trump, all the time, that it doesn’t matter who they pick as candidates, their voters won’t notice or care. Note that it is the Democrat voters who are being robbed blindly. Ironic? Not really, that’s always been the way Leftists work.

  221. YMMV says:

    Great video:

    Do you know where I am?
    Maxine Waters’ $6 Million Mansion.

    Do you know where I’m NOT?
    Her District.

    Mansion Maxine Waters doesn’t live in her District — I do.

  222. H.R. says:

    YMMV: “Note that it is the Democrat voters who are being robbed blindly. Ironic? Not really, that’s always been the way Leftists work.”

    Excellent observation. The Commies have always depended on the Dem sheeple useful idiots and the Dem sheeple useful idiots have – so far – always come through for the Commies. That is the Dem/Commie base.

    When will the Dem sheeple useful idiots ever learn? Never, of course. Just tremble at the thought that half of all Americans are below average intelligence. The commies are banking on that.

    Sidebar- What has me stumped is why a lot of the low candle-power people still have sense enough to resist the stealth oppression that will descend with Socialism/Communism and recognize that somehow, all that ‘free stuff’ just doesn’t add up, while supposedly intelligent, more highly educated people fall for the Commie tropes hook, line, and sinker. Thankfully, that is the case, even though I can’t say why. Good – or bad – parenting, I suppose.

  223. p.g.sharrow says:

    @HR, most people are co-operaters, they create wealth for themselves and share what they can with those less able. Others are users that feel that their station in life entitles them to have wealth, they are socialists. Socialists believe that there is enough wealth created so that everyone can be supplied with what they require if everyone shares,and,they spend all of their time creating justifications for that concept. They are always too busy talking to actually work. They are after all the Elite who’s place in the world is to direct others efforts.
    Most people know that Socialism is a scam on them, which is why socialists (communists) cloak their true intent under a blizzard of double talk and empty promising. Socialism is a top down thing that must be imposed by force. This is why Socialists (communists) strive to seize control of the sources of power. Control of the security forces, police and military,
    Small problem in America, No national police and the military is prohibited from being involved in enforcing civil laws. Only the Guard can be used by local governors to deal with local civil unrest
    Right now all of those Socialist Elite are exposing themselves in their drive to attain their goal of permanent dominance. Dominance that they rightly deserve, that is being denied to them by these underclass deplorables too ignorant to recognize their brilliance.
    Socialism is so wonderful in the long run that any means needed to bring it about is justified. That includes destroying everything, because those workers that rebuild things will do so under to direction of the Benighted Elite!

  224. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    Poor folks have to work for a living to make things and get things. They know just how much money for paint and materials and how much of their labor was needed to create a fence and paint it.

    Rich people don’t know. Once you have a generation of Rich Children who grew up never wanting or working and were sent off to school: they have had everything given to them their entire life. “Labor” is a concept in their Econ. class. When they were drunk and mowed down a fence, Insurance paid to fix it and replace the car. You just sign something….

    The first group knows “nothing is free and building is hard”.

    The second group knows “You just have to sign for stuff and breaking is easy, then you get new.”

  225. Another Ian says:

    Saying here of the second is that ” They think Manual Labour is a Mexican bandit”

  226. Another Ian says:

    Oh No! It is much worser!

    “Claim: New research: nitrous oxide emissions 300 times more powerful than CO₂ are jeopardising Earth’s future”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/10/12/new-research-nitrous-oxide-emissions-300-times-more-powerful-than-co%e2%82%82-are-jeopardising-earths-future/#comment-3102858

    By the time you get to the end of comments it rates as “fail” with some real gems along the way (IMO of course)

  227. Another Ian says:

    This seems to want to go with that nitrous oxide item

    Oct 12
    “The odds of an academic “researcher” producing anything eventually used by society is of the order of .00001%. That includes scientists. The odds for a baker: 100%” – Nassim Nicholas Taleb”

    https://mobile.twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1315723114706350080

    Via Small Dead Animals

  228. A C Osborn says:

    Another Ian says: 13 October 2020 at 7:13 am
    Oh No! It is much worser!

    I commented a couple fo times on that post as I have a question that really needs answering.
    Maybe one of you bright guys can answer it.
    How do they arrive at a gas molecule being 28 or 300 times more powerful a GHG than CO2.
    What attribute of the Methane or N2O molecules allows them to “store more heat in the atmosphere” than a CO2 molecule?
    Can they store the energy from 28 or 300 more photons than a CO2 molecule?
    If so where are all those extra photons going to come from?
    The logic of their bald statement passes me by.

  229. Graeme No.3 says:

    A C Osborn:
    There are ordinary photons for ordinary materials and SUPER photons that are used in ClimateScience©. SUPER photons are used in THE SCIENCE© therefore they are more powerful.
    The amount of power depends on the urgency of the coming disaster according to the Clmate Scientists, and this is affected by various factors e.g.
    Why don’t I get dates on Saturday night?
    Why do people laugh about me?
    How can I become important?

  230. Simon Derricutt says:

    pg – Crookes’ Radiometer is a little more complex than it looks when you go into why it works. It’s still a heat engine, though, and relies upon what are effectively two heat sinks, one hotter, one cooler.

    The tricky bit is how you get an electric field running in one direction around a circuit. There seems to be a way of doing that using tunnel barriers, but we’ll just have to see whether it actually works. It’s not so much the problem of how we can turn heat directly into electricity and violate 2LoT, because that’s pretty simple to do and easy to demonstrate (Lovell Monotherm). The methods that work produce very little actual power, though, and cost too much, so not really that much use. The real problem is how you get a useful amount of power cheaply, and to be able to easily manufacture those devices.

    Graeme No.3 – maybe figs on a Saturday night would be more effective? As for being impo’tant, that tends to come with age anyway. (Needs the right accent….)

  231. cdquarles says:

    Main problem, in my mind, with the whole “climate change” premise is that IR is heat. No, IR is light, not heat. The associated energy can be converted from one to another, but heat is internal kinetic energy of a sample of matter. Light isn’t. It is that conflation that makes things go off the rails, in my opinion. That is, a color or brightness ‘temperature’ isn’t the same thing as a thermodynamic one.

  232. cdquarles says:

    Hmm, that raises this question, for me. “Is all energy identical?” If not, what happens then? Then define identical ;).

  233. E.M.Smith says:

    @ACOsborn:

    It is all based on the fantasy that some degree of IR absorption is equal to “heating”. So the more effective and efficient a molecule is at absorbing IR photons, the more “warming potential” is allotted to it. Since 3 atom molecules have more vibration modes, they have more photon bands they can absorb (AND emit!), so become the Star Molecules in the IR Model.

    The most glaring problems:

    1) It both absorbs AND emits. Just how do you become an insulator when you absorb and emit in all directions?

    2) How is a rotational or vibrational mode of a molecule turned into linear motion of other molecules above the Tropopause? (Answer is that another photon is emitted before that happens).

    3) How is absorbing more IR in the Troposphere going to stop THE major mode of heat trasnport there: convection? (We have a Troposphere precisely because radiant energy transfer is not effective at moving the heat out. The higher atmospheric pressure moves the vibrational energy into the mass of non-radiative N2 and O2 far too quickly. So evaporation and convection dominate.)

    4) The CO2 IR window is already largely closed by water vapor (THE #1 BTW) and to a lesser extent CO2. Just how does closing an already closed window increase the closed-ness?

    There’s whole lot more, but it becomes more arcane.

    The simple fact is that three atom molecules EMIT lots of IR in the Stratosphere and above, COOLING the Earth. (That emitted downward hits the tropopause layer and gets stopped, then recycled back up) The Troposphere is an evaporative / convective / condensing cycle as a global Heat Pipe moving heat to where it can be radiated, above the Tropopause. Adding more IR active 3 atom molecules does not slow the tropospheric evaporation, convection, condensation cycle and does not reduce Stratospheric and above IR radiation.

  234. Simon Derricutt says:

    CDQ – a photon is a packet of energy with a direction and a momentum. Heat is on the other hand defined as a scalar, with no direction. Calculations using heat as a scalar give correct answers, too. However, the kinetic energy of heat must be carried by particles or photons, that do have individual momentum. The photon can be thermalised, where you no longer take notice of that momentum, but it will always have it, though the average is zero over enough particles.

    Where I diverge from the standard thought is to take notice of those individual momenta in heat, and note that to change the direction only needs an exchange of momentum. Very simple, but took me a lifetime to see it. Use some way to change the directions to more in one direction than they are random, and the vector sum of the momentum is no longer zero, and we can then use that energy to do work with. Work is also regarded as scalar, but it’s a force times a distance, and the distance is a vector and therefore so is work.

    I treat kinetic energy as being all the same, except for the direction of the particle that carries it. We can’t however measure it if there is no particle, since it would then have no effect, so I assume it cannot exist without a particle (that includes a photon) to carry it.

    Identical is a little tricky, since absolute identicality would entail also the same location, in which case we’d only see one entity and not two. However, the same amount of energy and in the same direction, but with a different location, is probably near-enough for jazz.

    The pedantry here seems to me to be important, much like programming. I’ve been digging in the foundations a lot, and getting those ducks properly lined up needed me to be more precise in the definitions. I’ve become wary of averages, since they always lose information, and when it comes to turning heat directly into electricity without needing two heatsinks of different temperatures, what is obviously impossible when looking at the averages becomes obviously possible when dealing with individual particles. Since there is also some experimental verification too, it is also practically possible. The big question is whether we can improve on that enough to be economic. That may well be possible.

  235. cdquarles says:

    @Simon,
    Agreed. For macroscopic collections of matter, the kinetic energy is thought to be carried by the atoms/molecules that define the sample. Since the numbers are large, we can’t identify the individual particles. In condensed samples, we do have something we can get our hands on, so to speak. I’ve done x-ray crystallography. You can get a “fuzzy” idea of where things are in the crystal, though at ambient temperatures, they are not *exactly* at that point; being bounced around by and with their neighbors. A “random” walk can get you from point A to B, even if it isn’t the most direct or efficient :). Biasing that “random” walk likely is more direct or efficient.

  236. Another Ian says:

    “Covid Brain Fog: the survivors who forget whole holidays, can’t recognise their own car”

    http://joannenova.com.au/2020/10/covid-brain-fog-the-survivors-who-forget-whole-holidays-cant-recognise-their-own-car/

  237. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    There’s more on that. I’ve been trying to work uo a posting on it, but it’s complicated…

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