W.O.O.D. – 14 October 2020


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Three Weeks To The End Of This Crap

And the start of new crap…

As of now, it is just 3 weeks until the election of the US President (along with a load of congress and others) is nominally over. Due to many Democrat Party ruined States going to massive “mail in ballots” it may well be 3 months before we know who, if anyone, is the President.

I suspect that election night will turn into chaos as the non-answer dawns. Or, if Trump is elected and it’s clear he is POTUS even without the other States reporting: Expect the Globalists / China paid Communists & Socialists / Soros funded Color Revolution folks like BLM & Antifa and others to have a complete emotional explosion and destroy their home cities even more. OTOH, if Biden “wins” it will most likely be an incredible fraud, and expect all sorts of legal issues and media hysterics.

So, for the next 3 weeks we will have increasing tension, increasing “shit storms for effect”, and ever less sleep. Sigh.

Three Days to 3 Weeks to 3 Months for Brexit to really, finally, this time for sure! be done. Maybe.

We’ve got the EU doing their best to sell fear and do nothing in the hope they can get “Brexit in name only”, but it is dawning on them oh so slowly that a WTO exit would be fine for the UK. Boris has, supposedly, said something along the lines of ~”this week is it, we’re off”, but he is having last minute (for the what, 20th time now?) “talks” with the EU.

For God’s Sake, man, just leave already. Take your sovereignty and leave. Do NOT compromise your fishing territorial waters, your law making ability, your National Choice and Control on regulations, your ability to conduct free trade with the rest of the world. Get your self free. NOW. Please. Sign a free trade deal with the USA before the end of the year and get on with it.

The EU is NEVER going to be a decent negotiating partner (they have demonstrated this many times already). They are wedded to the Globalist Abuse Platform. JUST WALK AWAY. Once Germany realizes it’s not selling as many cars into the UK, and once the reality of “no fishing for you” has been absorbed into the French and Spanish governments, then they will be much more flexible in their “demands”.

What’s Going On?

Chinese Wuhan Covid Lockdowns Unconstitutional and Failing – Again

The W.H.O. has even come out and said the time for lockdowns is over. It is now killing far more than the disease. We can effectively treat Chinese Wuhan Covid, and mortality is lowest while Vitamin D is highest and that is Right Now end of summer and sun.

It’s time to just get back to life and move on.

In Conclusion

I know. Short summary this time. But really, everything is on hold until the election happens. China and India and most of the rest of the Chinese neighbours are on the verge of war, but nobody will move until they know what the USA will become. Storms and such are causing lots of crop failures; but nothing will be stated as such until after the harvest season is done.

The whole world is just collectively marking time until the USA election is over and a Chinese Wuhan Covid vaccine is approve. Until that happens, it’s just circling the drain.

Companies are starting massive layoffs as the lockdowns exceed their ability to carry employees and no more bailout money is coming (thanks, Nancy… /sarc;) so we’ve had 5 figure layoffs in everything from Disney to other media to airlines and more. It’s the end game of the Democrat Party scorched earth plan to ruin the economy and blame it on Trump. But that blame redirection isn’t working. From riots to looting to burning city centers to forest fire arson: It has all happened in Democrat controlled cities and States. Similarly, the lockdowns leading to bankruptcy and layoffs. There’s a deep hatred for all things Democrat forming in the gut of Americans. Or at least those with a bit of clue.

In other news… it turns out that Democrats are about 80-90% scared of Covid and scared of going out to vote. Republicans are about 80-90% fine with going out, groups, voting in person.

Mail-in ballots have a MUCH higher rejection / error rate. Most of the mail-in ballots will be Democrats. Think about it… Recently California issued a plea to STOP disinfecting your mail in ballots as it smears the ink and the ballot is rejected. Fearful Democrats were alcohol washing them… Their push to promote mail-in ballots could very well cost Democrats the win just due to a few percentage higher rejection rate of predominantly Democrat voters ballots. Karma, it’s a thing ;-)

Let’s see. 3 Weeks. 21 Days. At 3 bottles a week, that’s 9 bottles. Call it $50 to $100 of “anaesthesia” budget. I think I can swing that. The bigger question is will it still be just 3 a week in 2 weeks…

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194 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 14 October 2020

  1. spetzer86 says:

    If Biden wins, the fraud will be found out about three months later and will be obvious, explicit, and wide spread. The MSM will collectively yawn and say “it’s too late to do anything about it, so let’s just move on”. Another Hillary moment for US law, where nobody is above the law, unless they’ve got a D by their name.

  2. stewartpid says:

    Chiefio …. no recent comments on the stock market etc
    Whats up? U just sitting out this one?
    I always enjoyed your musings on Mr Market.

  3. Nancy & John Hultquist says:

    Washington State began mail-in voting on a very small scale about 40 years ago. Slowly, new categories were allowed. Lots to learn. Then, 11 years ago, I think, we went to 99+%.
    Our voter instruction pamphlets came last week.
    Ballots will be mailed this Friday, the 16th.
    They can be mailed back, but we drop ours in a box in front of the courthouse.
    Washingtonians find the “jump into mail-in with both feet” states flat out crazy. Whatever can go wrong, will.

  4. pinroot says:

    I can’t believe that they’re allowing mail-in voting on such an unprecedented scale for such an important election. Everyday I see headlines about mail being found in dumpsters, ballots being sent to dead people, somewhere there were ballots without the presidential candidates included, and it goes on and on. I’ve started collecting articles as I find them.
    I’m in NC and our early voting begins tomorrow, so I’ll take half a day off from work to go stand in line (I’ll be out of town on Nov 3rd, so I have to vote early). This is a fairly liberal area of the state, so I expect that there won’t be that many people in line. I hope I’m wrong because that will mean that they’re mostly conservatives, voting for Trump. I hope.

  5. pouncer says:

    I very much doubt any state will track nor any media report some very simple statistics on the vote.
    What’s the population in each precinct? Of those, how many are registered voters? (Any precinct with more voters than residents deserves some prosecutorial scrutiny…) Of the registered voters, how many received ballots and of what style — absentee, “mail”, in-person, provisional, other? What was the total number of ballots issued? What was the total number of ballots returned? (Again, if a county or precinct shows more ballots coming in than were sent out, something criminal happened.) Of the ballots returned, how many were “voted”? A ballot with undervotes, unclear marking or the proverbial “dimpled chad” may or may not be a problem but before we go to the trouble of trying to Karnak the Psychic the intent, let’s just all agree on how many there are to worry about. Also, that number had better not change during later processes. Of the returned, clearly voted ballots, now we’re finally ready to discuss which candidates got how many votes each. Now some comparisons. If a precinct has, for example, a 60/40 split on mail ballots and a 50/50 split on in-person, we should be paying attention.

  6. E.M.Smith says:


    The problem is we are now in a 100% political market. You can not use “market forces”, nor earnings, nor reports, nor trend following graphs (my major tool) to predict a Political Market.

    At any time, today, tomorrow, next week:

    Pelosi could agree to a multi $Trillion ballout package and drive stocks through the roof; or she could decide “more destruction will work better for Dims” and close all businesses via some machination or other.

    The Fed could launch a HUGE stimulus campaign, or it could decide it was over extended and pull back; a decision driven by political considerations in these times.

    Several major State Governors could force businesses into bankruptcy (happening now with mandatory closings) or they could announce it is time to open up, pronto.


    It is not possible to know what those folks are going to decide. It is not possible to predict the finer points of the election, and thus the aftermath. Will we have 15 Supreme Court Justices in 9 months? Or 8? Will we be running full tilt to Socialism and Zero Carbon (i.e. ALL oil, gas, coal, gas stations, trucking companies, etc. to be bankrupted) or will we have Rule Of Law, Markets, and low cost abundant energy?

    With so much astounding risk, and zero predictive ability, there’s not much that can be done, or said. (One could use options and buy a straddle, but then the implied volatility makes that hard to do and still make money, plus, not a lot of folks here will be options traders.) But since about all we know is that the market OUGHT to move, one way or the other, on the election, about all you can do is ask “Is implied volatility low enough that a straddle will pay off?”.

    The other bit:

    At present, the ONLY thing causing the market to be so high is that The Fed shoved a tidal wave of money at it (and maybe a little bit that the “relief” package paid them to not fire everyone). BUT, the relief package is at an end and The Fed is already painfully over leveraged. Not much more coming on those fronts, most likely. So companies are now starting massive layoffs (just in time for the pain to hit at election time… wonder how many of the executives are Dems…)

    So we have a market in debt to the clouds, NOT making profits, and on the edge of destruction for many sectors, laying off folks in the 10s of thousands sized tranches. Those folks will NOT be buying a lot of stuff. Similarly, folks not working in offices don’t need much “lunch money”, or suits, or gas, or car repairs or… So the cascade is already in progress and acceleration will follow… UNLESS a Trump Win has folks accept that the whole Lockdown-Blame-Trump didn’t work and they really need to get back to making money…

    So I’d not want to go long into that good night… yet I’d not want to be sitting on cash for 6 months while The Fed prints up a boatload more to pay debts and fund bailouts.

    As a consequence, at this point, I’m about 90% real estate, 5% cash, and 5% selected stocks. That’s basically a “inflation coming” defensive posture. IF after a Trump win businesses open overnight and folks start shopping and dining in droves, I’m positioned exactly wrong. But I think that is unlikely.

    You can’t print many $Trillions and not have an inflation pressure. You can’t shut down whole segments of the economy for a year and have it just come up roses when you change your mind. Movie theaters (all theaters, really) are totally screwed. Dining out will be on the disabled list for years. New car sales? Who will have the money? Who will need a new car with so many folks either not working or telecommuting? Retail? Clothing? Only modest replacement sales for a long while. The list goes on.

    Essentially, we have moribund productivity and a skyrocketing mountain of obligations for it to support. Either we get back to productivity soon, or we face rampant erosion.

    That in the face of a Fed who’s way out of “stimulus” ability, a demoralized business community, and political chaos. The RISK in the risk / reward ratio is just crazy high.

    Oh, and a huge mob of folks ran off to buy gold, driving it to unsustainable and crazy prices. As soon as mining starts again, the stuff that can be mined at $500 to $1000 per ounce is going to flood into that market… But when will that be? Ask a politician…

  7. llanfar says:

    @pinroot I’ll be in line here too (Cary)

  8. philjourdan says:

    I disagree on the 3 month thing. The states that are doing the cheat by mail are going to go Biden (maybe!). But the ones doing it honestly will decide the election and those are going Trump. So the “popular cheat by mail vote” will not be known for 3 months. But popular does not elect the president.

    And SCOTUS will call a halt to this charade. I figure a 8-1 or 7-1 (if ACB is not on the court at that time) vote to stop it. The unwise Latina being the idiot.

  9. philjourdan says:

    @Stewardpid and EM – The lack of another trillion+ dollar bail out is what the founders had in mind. Yea, the stock market is riding the Fed fusion. But the reason that employment is lagging (I see Help wanted signs all over the place and am constantly bombarded with job offers from head hunters) is the sweet UE benefits.

    Personally, I cannot stand to WFH! And would go bat shit crazy if I was NWFH or anywhere else! But I am a child of the poor. I have been working at one odd job or another since I was 11. And some of that was SS taxable. So I have 53 years of SS wages. Of course that means squat. as they only take your 35 best years. Which means I will never see what I paid in. But that is life.

  10. Serioso says:

    If I understand the voting rules in North Carolina correctly, early ballots are counted within a week of receipt (although the results re not revealed until election day, and early balloting is no longer permitted after 10/31),. Polls close at 8 p.m. Eastern Time.So it seems likely the the North Carolina totals will be in by 9 or 10 p.m Eastern Time. Assuming a landslide one way or the other, we should be able to forecast accurately the national results long before midnight.

  11. E.M.Smith says:


    Here in California, early voting basically creates a mail-in ballot that goes in an envelope then a drop box. Not real regular voting style. I think they process them early, but I’m not sure. In any case, we know California will go to Biden. Only “by how much” will tell us anything.

    FWIW, I’m actually happy the election will be up in the air for a day or two. Most years, the POTUS is called before California polls even close. Often hours before. This will be nice in that I’ll actually feel like California counts…

  12. pinroot says:

    @llanfar Good to hear. If this thread is still active I’ll post my experiences, if anything interesting happens.

  13. pinroot says:

    Since this is an open discussion, what does anyone/everyone think about the NY Post article regarding Hunter Biden’s emails and photos, and Twitter and Facebook censoring and banning any mention of the Post’s article? Is it this election’s “October Surprise”?

  14. cdquarles says:

    It is one of them and the “press” is doing damage control, in my opinion.

  15. E.M.Smith says:

    That Twater and Faceplant are banning it, proves it is true. Just my opinion.

    They don’t have the resources to ban irrelevant stuff nor the self control to realize their tell.

  16. H.R. says:

    @Serioso – Thanks for the info on NC mail-in voting. That’s yet another way to go about it.
    I’ve run across a half-dozen different ways various States are going to count mail-in votes. Mostly the differences have registered on my consciousness only because the methods are being challenged in the courts What I’ve noted is that the court challenges seem to be either about the number of drop boxes allowed, the date by when the ballot must be postmarked, or both.

    There has also been a major fuss about solicited vs. unsolicited ballots, solicited ballots being the good old formally requested absentee ballot that has always been available in all of the States. My State is only accepting the solicited ballots under the rules that have been in place for years. No controversy here that I’m aware of.

    I guess the legal bug-tussles are going on in the States that are allowing unsolicited ballots. That’s a major can of worms. If there’s a delay in vote counting, I suspect it will be in those States as both Parties will be challenging unsolicited ballots and demanding verification that the ballot was filled out and sent in by the person whose name is on the ballot. That could *ahem* take a while.
    It’s a mystery to me (not really) why all of a sudden, several States wanted to go to all mail-in voting with unsolicited ballots when those States have had for years, a fairly secure system of mail-in absentee voting via requested absentee ballots. The only fly in that ointment is that was how a lot of dead people managed to vote if they were never purged from voter rolls. No one really wants them to show up to vote in person now, do they? ;o)

  17. H.R. says:

    @pinroot re Hunter Biden and the NYP article:

    Shhhhh… The real fuss is that is how our so-called elected public servants have been enriching themselves for years. It’s not just a Biden thing or Democrat thing or Republican thing. Hunter (yes, he dunnit) is just the pop-tab ring that will open the whole can of worms on all of the House Reps and Senators who have been selling access to their office. There are precious few that manage to keep their hands completely clean while swimming in the muck of the DC swamp.

    Hunter was just stupid when going about it. You’d have thought ol’ Gropin’ Joe would have taught Hunter better. And you can bet there are a lot of people in DC right now that are checking with their bagmen/relatives that there are no loose ends that could possibly be tugged on to unravel their graft and bribes.

    “Wipe everything… with a cloth, if you have to.”

  18. jim2 says:

    More and more Pelosi if feeling the heat for not getting a corona virus support bill passed. Trump, with a mixture of genius and balls, walked away from the Dimowit version with many toxic aspects: bailouts for blue state pension funds, legalized ballot harvesting, and much much more. Pelosi lost it with Wolf Blitzer who was pressing her on why she won’t compromise for the sake of the downtrodden citizens. It’s a sweet thing to watch :)

  19. E.M.Smith says:

    Pentatonix has a new video out. Looks like they are re-formed (have been for a while) with the Bass guy replaced. Still sound pretty good.

    I’m really fond of some of their original stuff, so I guess I’ll need to check out what they have done recently. For a little while they had broken up as a couple of them wanted to go after personal careers. Looks like most of them realize there’s something special in the combination too…

  20. Another Ian says:

    The Great Barrier Reef is still there and thriving despite headlines you may meet in the ysm

    ““Proxies” Claim Half the GBR Corals Dead – But Not in Real Life”


  21. Another Ian says:

    Like that “level playing field in agriculture” eh?

    “”New Hunter Biden Emails Show Sales of Influence to Chinese Interests – Millions Paid to Biden Family for “Introductions” and Legal “Assistance”… ”


  22. E.M.Smith says:

    “Legal Assistance” like how Kamala’s Husband works as lawyer for a law firm employed by China? IMHO, Kamala is only on the ticket because China owns the DNC and they wanted an “All Pwned” by China ticket.

  23. Another Ian says:

    A pretty deep pile listed here


  24. Another Ian says:

    Better check your party supplies by this

    “Giuliani: You’ve Only Seen Five Percent of What’s on Hunter Biden’s Hard Drive ”


  25. ossqss says:

    Well, here ya go. From ZH since the original link is no longer good. Go figure!


  26. llanfar says:

    We got to the polling place at poll opening – mistake. Took 10 minutes driving around to find a parking place. Then just over 3 hours in line to get to the voting intake (which they called “application” – odd choice). At that point it was painless.

    Heading out, we passed by the end of the line – longer than when we first got there. Off to Another Broken Egg to celebrate our vote (I had jalapeño cornbread waffle & brisket eggs Benedict).

  27. beththeserf says:

    Loved that, Ian. )

    Came in to show a video from the past, Joe Biden and Thomas Sowell, 1987. I’m an admirer of Thomas Sowell, Listen to him on Peter Robinson, ‘Uncommon Knowledge and I wrote a post on his excellent book, ‘Wealth, Poverty and Politics,’ written 5 years ago when he was in his mid eighties. Joe Biden, tho’ not noticeably sharp back then, is scarcely recognisable as the Joe Biden standing for President of the United States today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO7rHaCi-7M&ab_channel=IngramFry

  28. cdquarles says:

    Another great article: https://lockdownsceptics.org/what-sage-got-wrong/. We discussed the main points pretty much at the start of this.

  29. philjourdan says:

    They have in person early voting, no excuse needed in my State. It started about the end of September, so I went and voted on October 5. Took all of 15 minutes. Line was not that long, and moved quickly. I guess those voting early do not have to think about who they are voting for, they already know. But there were 2 amendments to the Commonwealth Constitution on the ballot. I voted for one and against the other. The other was about handing off the redistricting to a new committee instead of having the legislature do it. Which is stupid because the legislature would pick the committee to start with!

  30. YMMV says:

    What SAGE got wrong, and everybody else, and they are still getting it wrong. Good article.
    The take-away graphic:

    Making models without putting in the science, yuk.

    See also:
    and copied at

  31. YMMV says:

    Update to cross-reactivity: It’s complicated.
    Antigens which you have got from previous corona virus events can be good, or they can be bad.
    Good when they work against the new virus. But when they are triggered by the new virus but do not inactivate it, they just get in the way and produce cytokine storms. This has a cute name: Original antigenic sin.

    Drbeen Medical Lectures explains this in detail. Technical, but understandable if you care to dive in. This is his 199th video about coronavirus. Dr. Mobeen Syed. Based in California.

    NOTE: skip the first couple minutes because the sound is not working.

  32. E.M.Smith says:


    Thanks! Just the kind of stuff that a marginal Aspe with a Bio background loves to dive into ;-)

  33. jim2 says:

    My MX Linux issues are fixed. Printer works normally as does sound. However …

    I had uninstalled Pulseaudio in an earlier attempt to fix the lack of sound. The Pulseaudio team is also part or all of the SystemD team. The install put SystemD in place of sysvinit.

    Bummer, but I’m leaving it as is for now.

  34. cdquarles says:

    Indeed they are, which is why antibody dependent enhancement can and does occur with natural infections as well as with vaccines (remember, vaccines are designed to give a controlled dose to prime your immune system so it can react to a subsequent exposure and not all exposures will result in infection). That’s why immunomodulation, whether innate or enhanced by astute observation and treatments, often help.

  35. Dive 4414 says:

    Looks like Steve Brannon is going scorched earth over his indictment, 2 more weeks of Biden Crime Family Piñata. Congress should be fun, that dirt may never see the light of day….

  36. cdquarles says:

    Interesting thread: https://twitter.com/kylamb8/status/1317186379483406337. I agree with Kyle Lamb here, from a biological point of view. Every successful organism alters the local environment to enhance its own survival. You can be exposed to and infected by more than one virus at a time. Can there be testing artifacts? Of course. Still, the most successful organisms will displace other competitors to the extent it *is* more successful.

  37. Toldyaso says:

    The tinfoil hat people did get it right. NO ONE can be trusted with freedom of speech. No one can be trusted NOT to spy on your phone calls, your mail, or even your laptop repairs.

    Say what you will about tinfoil people, they are why you now have Tor, I2P, or Zeronet to turn to.

    I have personally witnessed telco techs listening in on phone calls many times. This butt sniffing is NOT exceptional – it is the rule. It’s so common only a dingbat would consider anything safe when stored or transferred unencrypted,

    Admit I enjoy the salt with Biden’s laptop – but remain plenty disgusted too. Pretty certain that creep has imaged drives from other customers. Perhaps your daughter’s? Maybe be planted a timed video app to watch her for you?

    We once killed snitches and sneaks in this country.

  38. E.M.Smith says:

    Well… this will be fun… NOT!

    Just lost an 8 TB Disk of archived tenperature data and scrapes.

    It turns, bleeps, and stops. Doesn’t light active light. I suspect the electronics. It is a sealed Seagate with maybe 30 hours of use on it? About 6 TB actually used.

    The good news:

    I was mistly consolidating backup copies on this disk. I’m pretty sure I have a duplicate of most or all of it. But scattered over other littler disks.

    I also have 8 TB of Western Digital disk (2 x 4GB) I can use to remake an archive.

    Other not so good:

    A few days finding, curating, organizing and dupicating data are ahead of me.

    I have 2 other identical Seagate 8 TB disks of similar vintage holding important stuff.

    I THINK I have enough free disk space to duplucate everything, but not what I had planned for this week…

    After the duplicating is done, I might try extracting the physical drive to see it I can make it go inside a PC. IF I’m lucky, its an electrolytic capacitor in the power handling and a transplant will fix it…

  39. cdquarles says:

    Interesting article if you are into epidemiology: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.09.20210146v1.full.pdf. Statistical modeling is inherent in it and the epidemiologist fallacy often applies.

  40. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, something of a pleasant surprise…

    Prior, I’d put all the temp data on an LVM volume set. Two 4 TB disks. (I also have another 2 x 4 TB disks for other stuff…). I’d mostly just copied that data onto the single 8 TB disk to make the desk neater and disk management a whole lot easier (i.e. avoiding all those LVM commands and such). Well, plugging the two LVM disks back into the little Orange Pi One nfs server, I had the good sense to leave all the data on them! So looks like my “scrounge around and try to reassemble the collection from a gaggle of small disks” has turned into “Audit the LVM set plus the other disks to assure you really have 2 copies of everything that matters.”

    Yeah, auditing a dozen TB of disk archives still isn’t the most exciting day (week?) but it sure beats “What do you mean years of data collection are gone?”… by A LOT!

    I’ll never again worry myself in the store over buying a new disk… I’d thought “I don’t REALLY need the 8 TB disks. I have all the data on 4 TB disks and it works.” but they were on sale at COSTCO for some ridiculous price like $80… So I bought them and just figured “I’ll copy everything onto the smaller sleeker set and just set the 4 TB ‘MyBook’ disks on the shelf…” So I’ve been carrying about 16 TB of “excess disk space”… but having “copies in depth” along with a half dozen TB of free space has just paid off 8-)

    Color me very happy…

    Though I’m back at making sure archive sets are on the MyBook disks and only working sets of stuff are on the (remaining) two Seagate 8 TB drives. Having one bite the dust on me with hardly any actual run time over about a year elapsed time is not very encouraging… It mostly just sat on the desk and was only plugged into an SBC at the time I was working on temperature data. In that use case, a hard disk ought to last a decade+ easy.

    So, OK, as a feature, now I get to “destructively examine” the dead drive. It’s a sealed plastic case, so likely going to take a moto-tool cutting wheel (unless there are screws cleverly hidden under the feet or something…)

    So, “tail of woe” essentially over, and turned into “tail of data management audit” for now…

    Sidebar on Orange Pi One:

    I’m typing this in Firefox on the dinky little Orange Pi One nfs server (logged in to do things like change /etc/fstab to use the LVM group and such). It is working surprisingly well as a desktop. The 512 MB of memory rapidly gets over-run when you launch the browser, so stuff spills over to swap. Presently 269 MB in swap. 4 units of /dev/zram then two swap partitions on the two LVM disks (in addition to the LVM partitions) and a backup GB of /SWAPFILE on the uSD at way low priority.

    Only occasionally do I notice a “swap lag”. Like on launching the browser and opening a big page with videos, when all sorts of stuff rolls to swap.

    I’d not want to use it as a Daily Driver, but as an emergency system, for $18 or so, it was a heck of a deal. Temperature about 65 C (with dinky R.Pi type heat sink on it). So it’s clearly being memory limited with swap causing the sporadic pauses / sloth.

  41. Another Ian says:

    Read this and chuckle! Another round in an on-going Canadian saga that has featured at SDA



  42. Another Ian says:

    “Inflection Point – President Trump: “I’ll only say this once”…”


  43. E.M.Smith says:


    And folks wonder why I hate using email…

    For decades, one on my major features was that as the I.T. Manager, my management didn’t have to worry about “leaks”. I didn’t have the heart to tell them that their stuff was boring as hell and my guys could read any of it, but didn’t, because it jyst was a waste of time…

    After a decade of trying to push encrypted email, I gave up. Nobody but me and the mail guys cared.

  44. Another Ian says:

    Re above post

    A banner statement over at Unofficial Allis

    Trump Is Not A Lib or Conserv, He’s a “Pragmatist.” (someone who is practical and focused on reaching a goal. Has a straightforward, matter-of-fact approach and doesn’t let emotion distract him or her

  45. philjourdan says:

    @EM – One agency I worked at had policies about responding to unsolicited emails. I had the misfortune of trying to dissect the “I Love You” virus, which was actually quite harmless, but took advantage of the Windows “Scrap” file vulnerability. Needless to say, I did infect the agency. Once I realized it, I ran downstairs and shut the email server down hard.

    But in the 20 seconds it took me to run downstairs, several folks responded to that email. My Boss (a fantastic lady) backed me on this and filleted the responders on proper email behavior!

    I really was trying to dissect the email to see how it worked. I learned the hard way. Scrap files run regardless of how you try to “edit” them

  46. E.M.Smith says:


    You needed an isolated network. I have a lab network, isolating my office from general house stuff, then a DMZ guest network off the house net for TVs and such, AND a stand alone hub for when I want a quaratined box… just for my one house.

    At work once, we had 16 “partner networks” each firewalled from the rest, a private corp net, a couple of internal segments with protection (management suite, engineering, server farm), and 2 DMZs. Too many places lump things all together.

  47. jim2 says:

    Another Ian – That Knight’s Code story is awesome and side-splittingly funny!!

  48. vcmathjm says:

    Very interesting lecture “Covid 19 : A Clinical Update” by Paul Marik of the Math+ treatment program. Packed with information and treatment updates.

  49. vcmathjm says:

    Not meaning to clutter the thread but there is some interesting ivermectin discussion and links on the “Covid 19 : A Clinical Update” link up-thread
    Published 9/20 Study on how ivermectin works

    Quantitative proteomics reveals a broad‐spectrum antiviral property of ivermectin, benefiting for COVID‐19 treatment

    another recent paper I have not seen here

    Ivermectin as a Broad-Spectrum Host-Directed Antiviral: The Real Deal?

  50. Another Ian says:

    “For those confused whether to stand or kneel during the American national anthem, conservative barbie has a simple fix….



  51. YMMV says:

    Wow! That’s good. Ivermectin, Vit-C, Vit-D good. Sell Remdesivir stocks.
    most infectious before you know you are sick. Treat early while the virus is still replicating. By the time you get tested, that part is over. Then the treatment needs to change, to fix the immune system damages. Steroids. But watch the whole thing.

  52. YMMV says:

    to be clear, that’s referring to Paul Marik’s talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhL2FPcBHHQ

  53. Another Ian says:


    FYI – might find out in there if you could get to see it


  54. Another Ian says:

    “NY Post on CNN’s owner-operator”


    Does that make CNN a “stick channel”?

  55. Another Ian says:

    And the comments there!!!

  56. cdquarles says:

    Does this sound like a Tom Clancy novel to you: https://uncoverdc.com/2020/10/21/patrick-byrne-the-story-behind-the-clinton-bribe/? Dang, sometimes reality *is* stranger than fiction ;p.

  57. E.M.Smith says:


    That is an astounding story. I don’t know if I hope it is fiction, so I can retain some positivity about government, or if I hope it is true, so something gets done about it.

    I feel sorry for Butina bring caught up in it all…
    I like the idea of a pissed off Hillary being blackmailed… by Obama no less…
    I really like how Trump upset their grand plan… and…
    I wonder what they are doing now, this time.

  58. Another Ian says:

    “Believe It Or Not, Many Of Today’s Covid19 Measures Have A Historical Precedent”


  59. E.M.Smith says:


    Let the Deep State Heads roll where they may, regardless of party or position. Drown every rat…

  60. p.g.sharrow says:

    There are plenty of Republican Deep Staters who are dirty, Now they will have the opportunity to resign or hang with the rest of the Clinton Crime Syndicate that Hillary bragged about. The Bidens are just one branch of it.

  61. philjourdan says:

    I do not buy the Mnuchin story. For one simple reason – even with no evidence, fake news would be screaming it to the rafters. But they are not.

  62. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, I’ve finally mostly recovered from the loss of the 8 TB Seagate disk.

    I still only have one copy of the major temperature data archive (on the LVM disk array), but I also have some copies of most parts of it on scattered other backups in an unorganized form (more on that below).

    I’ve also moved about 8 TB of “stuff” off the other two 8 TB Seagate drives of similar make and vintage, and the other ~4 TB is now duplicated in both of them (so about 4 TB of each disk is used, with each disk being mostly a copy of the other one.)

    At this point, I can take a breath. The last “duplicate Backups from Disk A onto Disk B just completed after an 11+ hour run.

    Ahead of me is to prune all this pack-rat collection. At this time I doubt I need backup copies of the Rasberry Pi SD cards from 3 or 4 years back… But duplicating the backup set was one command and overnight patience. Sorting through it and deciding things is more complicated and slower.

    I also need to sort through my accumulated data grabs and scrapes and assemble 2 complete and clean copies and then purge the other dozen odd bits and chunks from “whenever” and “wherever” too. I most likely have 7 or 8 copies of GHCN v2, for example. Between different grabs at different times on different machines AND their various backup copies.

    It won’t be exciting and it won’t make for very interesting postings, but perhaps along the way I can find a way to make it useful. Perhaps load the data into a clean simple SQL database aimed at general purpose uses (i.e. not optimized for a data flow to graph comparison of versions…)

    For now, as first step, I’m going to put my desktop back together (it presently has 35 TB of misc. disks scattered all over it and 3 SBCs with chips for 5 OS types… Time for a bit of tidy up and polish ;-) Then I’ll start working on rationalizing the now somewhat scattered data (some got spread over 1/2 dozen small disks wherever it would fit…)

    In Summary:

    The recovery is done and I think I’ve got nearly no data loss.
    The “belt and suspenders” phase is done and the questionable disks are only holding things of low value, working & scratch spaces, or things entirely duplicated elsewhere.
    I can take a break from shovelling TB of data around.
    I can have a nice cuppa tea while doing “tidy and neaten” ;-)

  63. Another Ian says:

    “If we paint all our cities white, will we get more snow?”


  64. ossqss says:

    @EM, get some SSD or NVMe drives and a cheap USB3 case, and be done with spinning drives. Decent ones will last much longer.

    You just reminded us why we don’t want spinning drives in anything. Just sayin, do a search on longevity and long term storage.

  65. llanfar says:

    @philjourdan A deep state plant would be exactly the kind of person fake news would actively suppress stories about.

    Not sure I believe it either. But as a Goldman Sachs alum, I never trusted him.

  66. E.M.Smith says:


    It is rarely the mechanical spinning part that dies. For decades I’ve recovered the data from “dead” drives at work by swapping the electronics board with a similar drive.

    SSDs die too. They have a limited number of R/W cycles then they croak. I inherited the Spousal Macbook when the SSD died for just that reason. (Ran it from a uSD boot device for a few years that way then the PSU died…). Lately, SSD life has been improved a lot and extended, but I’ve not seen any information on relative probable life span of current crop SSD vs current crop spinning disk.

    Also, FWIW, I’m still using disks that are 30 years old in some of my gear. Sure, only booted up every few years, but… Then I’ve got USB drives in use that have seen daily use for 5? years or more.

    Also bear in mind that the failed drive is “almost new”. Brought it home, moved temperature data onto it. Then MAYBE plugged it in 3 or 4 times in the few months I’ve had it sitting on the desk. So this failure is in the “infant mortality” category. Either a part was trash to begin with or something went out of spec and fried it.

    It DOES still spin, and without undue noise, so it’s not the drive itself that failed. The lack of “power on” light despite power clearly being there plus the clear sounds of start up head seeks and some other bits I think is clearly diagnostic of the control electronics having popped. My best guess is that it was likely a faulty electrolytic capacitor in the power conditioning for the electronics that had a punch-through. They are usually the most error prone parts (being an electro-chemical device similar to batteries in some ways).

    So basically what I’m saying is that while SSDs are great, and I’m quite willing to run them, being electronic laden devices they will be prone to the same kinds of electronics failure as took out this disk drive. Plus, my low utilization pattern means the mechanical parts of my home disks have never had a failure. Most of my disks, especially the bigger archival ones, are left powered off and unplugged about 99% of the time. (I do cycle them at least once a year to assure lubrication stays distributed and that electrolytic capacitors get a ‘reforming’ charge on them so they don’t self-disassemble)

    My “only plug in and power up when needed” was very helpful when a big overvolts was sent down the power line due to a high voltage cross bar dropping onto the low voltage house delivery lines – frying my internet router and my wifi router… Literally. I looked inside and there were scorched traces on the board. It did form a conductive path from power at the wall cord inside the box to antenna coupler to very nearby aluminum window frame / stucco chicken wire / earth and save everything else in the house, so worth it I guess… But I was VERY happy no disks were plugged in at the time.

  67. ossqss says:

    @EM, I hear ya, but the solid state tech keeps getting better with more redundancy across the board. Some now incorporate built in bad block management (via reserve capacity) and tools to help with health. I happened to read this blip today as I was reviewing the newer PCIe 4.0 versions of the NVMe drives.


    On PCIe 4.0 supplimental. Amazing speeds.


  68. philjourdan says:

    @EM – Re: Spinning disks dying. Get Gibson Spinrite. Originally it was used to realign the sectors and heads on the old RLL/MFM drives. But in the IDE (and later) drives it has become a data recovery tool. My kids HD died several years ago (when they actually were kids), and I was able to recover 95% of all the files from the drive with it (it was the circuit board as well).

  69. Compu Gator says:

    This post is a test of Unicode‘s newfangled flag-generation schemes, which use extension of emoji-content interfaces [×]. Some flags are claimed, with unknown authority, not to be displayed on Microsoft systems (back to not playing nicely with standards, M.S.?):

    Using ISO 3166-1 ‘alpha-2’ set of ‘country codes’ encoded via UCS ‘REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER’s ‘A’–‘Z’ (🇦–🇿 = U+1F1E6–1F1FF) in the ‘Enclosed Alphanumeric Supplement’ [*], e.g.:

    (🇬🇧)• 🇬🇧 (🇬🇧 = U+1F1EC U+1F1E7) United Kingdom d.b.a. Great Britain (“GB”).

    • 🇩🇪 (🇩🇪 = U+1F1E9 U+1F1EA) Germany d.b.a. Deutschland (“DE”).

    • 🇻🇦 (🇻🇦) Vatican City-State (“VA”).

    • For Chiefio, I’ll add that Australia follows this scheme, as “AU” (Austria is “AT”), but it’s already taken up too much time today for me to make an example for that one, too.

    But there’s more, using a com-pllletely different coding scheme [**], e.g.:

    • 🏴 󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 = U+1F3F4 U+E0067 U+E0062 U+E0073 U+E0063 U+E0074U+E007F) Scotland (coded as a mere ‘region’ of G.B.: “gbsct” instead of the plausible “GB-SCT”, where flag-trigger char. is ‘WAVING BLACK FLAG’, and terminator is ‘CANCEL TAG’).

    • 🏴󠁤󠁥󠁢󠁹󠁿 (🏴󠁤󠁥󠁢󠁹󠁿 = U+1F3F4 U+E0064 U+E0065 U+E0062 U+E0079 U+E007F) Bavaria (the only historical German stem duchy currently defined, coded as a ‘region’ of Germany [†]: “deby” instead of the plausible “DE-BY”, for its native name Bayer; same trigger & terminator chars., as for all others using this scheme).

    • For Chiefio, I’ll add that Australian provinces follow this scheme, so, e.g., Victoria is defined as “auvic”, but it’s probably no more or less likely to be implemented than States of the U.S.A.

    Writing from a perspective that might be disparaged overseas as “United-Statesian”,  I’ll add that each of the states and territories are included using the ‘region’ (i.e., “black flag”) encodings [**], but they’re typically not implemented.

    Note  ×: “NoScript” balked on behalf of wattsupwiththat.wpcomstaging.com/test/, then the site itself seems to have rejected it, altho’ its automation might just have been frightened by the abundance of HTML char.-encodings. Maybe it’s only in the moderation queue over there. Hey-ell, the need for attention to meticulous detail required a lot of time & effort for this textually short posting!

    Note  *: “Regional indicator symbol (Redirected from Emoji flag sequence)”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji_flag_sequence.

    Note **: “Tags (Unicode block)”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tags_(Unicode_block).

    Note  †: Current international definitions of ‘regions’ seem to interpret the concept as modern civil divisions, which short-changes linguistic/ethnic identity, e.g., in Germany, they seem to omit even the historic stem-duchies Franconia, Lotharingia (i.e., Lorraine (🐸)), Saxony, and Swabia. “Stem duchy [….] (German: Stammesherzogtum, from Stamm, meaning ‘tribe’)”, and Herzog, conventionally translated as “duke”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_duchy.

  70. Compu Gator says:

    Arrrgh!  WordPress double-interpreted part of the comment that I submitted yesterday (above); it changed the “& #” that I coded to be displayed to reveal my actual flag encodings, into “& #” interpreted as part of an HTML entity, i.e. a Unicode char.-encoding. That’s a WordPress error in interpreting HTML, but I can’t do anything about what the responsible programmers would probably try to dismiss as an “idiosyncrasy” of WordPress.

    So I’m trying a straightforward work-around herein: I’ve inserted blanks between “&” and “#” in an attempt to inhibit the WordPress error. Readers who want to use the decimal flag encodings I’ve provided will need to remove those work-around blanks [↺].

    Newly recoding the HTML I submitted yesterday:

    Using ISO 3166-1 ‘alpha-2’ set of ‘country codes’ encoded via UCS ‘REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER’s ‘🇦’–‘🇿’ (& #127462;–& #127487; = U+1F1E6–1F1FF) in the ‘Enclosed Alphanumeric Supplement’ [*], e.g.:

    • 🇬🇧 (& #127468;& #127463; = U+1F1EC U+1F1E7) United Kingdom< d.b.a. Great Britain (“GB”).

    • 🇩🇪 (& #127465;& #127466; = U+1F1E9 U+1F1EA) Germany d.b.a. Deutschland (“DE”).

    • 🇻🇦 (& #127483;& #127462;) Vatican City-State (“VA”).

    • For Chiefio, I’ll add that Australia follows this scheme, as “AU” (Austria is “AT”), but it’s already taken up too much time today  for me to make an example for that one, too .

    Ah!  But today is a new day!

    • 🇦🇺 (& #127462;& #127482; = U+1F1E6 U+1F1FA) Australia (“AU”).

    • 🇮🇪 (& #127470;& #127466; = U+1F1EE U+1F1EA) Ireland (“IE”).

    • 🇺🇸 (& #127482;& #127480; = U+1F1FA U+1F1F8) United States (“US”)!

    Note ↺ : I was tempted (and remain so) to avoid the work-around blanks that might not be obvious to readers, and instead substitute ‘’,  designated “turned ampersand”,  to prevent the WordPress error from fouling my documentation. The char. would look obviously wrong to all readers. But I suppose it’s possible that not all readers’ browsers can display it, even though it’s been defined since 2002 (i.e., Win.-XP vintage).

    Note * : “Regional indicator symbol (Redirected from Emoji flag sequence)”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji_flag_sequence.

  71. Another Ian says:

    ” “Remdesivir for COVID-19” Study accidentally proved effectiveness of Hydroxychloroquine ”


  72. H.R. says:

    Just finished listening to the confirmation vote for ACB to the Supreme Court.

    They should do this live for EVERY frickin’ vote.

    Let the constituents actually hear how you voted, (Slime-bucket) Senators!
    P.S. Fun general sharing with the denizens here: The arm sling came off Saturday AM. WOOT!!! You have no idea what it was like to sleep lying down in bed after 6 weeks sleeping upright. I rolled and the pain woke me up every hour or two but the sleep in-between was wonderful! Ahhhhhh…. Sunday night got me 4 hours of good sleep before I rolled wrong and the sharp pain woke me up. I was able to go back to sleep after rearranging a support pillow.

    I’m looking for better and better nights as the shoulder heals. I normally only sleep 4.5 to maybe 6 hrs per night anyhow, and average about 5 hrs., but I rapidly fall into the deep sleep we all need. It will all get better day-by-day, and it is certainly easier to get the good kind of sleep in my own little beddy-bye.

    Hopefully, y’all will begin to notice a difference between my sleep deprived babbling and my non-sleep-deprived babbling. It’s subtle, but there is a difference 😜

  73. E.M.Smith says:


    Thanks to way too many days of sleep deprivation for various reasons, I can give a bit of hopefully helpful insight:

    Historically, folks slept 2 x a day. Remnants of this show up in the Hispanic Siesta. (Search on “second sleep” for the Anglo version).

    It is easier to learn to “sleep twice” than to get 8 solid when things are “not good”. So try to just get a quiet nap in bed in the afternoon. 2 fours or 2 threes can be better than “one long with pain”…

  74. cdquarles says:

    And in other news, I’m watching another tropical system. Oh well. There have been ugly October storms before. I do, though, want to say that November ones pass well south.

  75. cdquarles says:

    @H. R.,
    I’ve been there, where pain affected sleep. I once had an arthralgia that not only precluded much movement, turning during sleep was quite painful. I learned a few non-pharmaceutical ways to deal with it. It resolved about 8 weeks later. Why I had it was never found. On the other hand, I saw someone on IV morphine at high doses that didn’t stop his moaning. Deep bone pain is like that.

  76. ossqss says:

    Hummm, I don’t know if I want to post this for all those who have been sterilizing everything for months and are now seeing stuff start to rust or fall apart, or because it can have some galvanizing inspirational political voting value. :-)

  77. H.R. says:

    @all – Yup. Had (have) been getting siestas during the day.

    Thank goodness I’m not a long haul trucker! 😜

  78. Another Ian says:

    “CNN Proposes Climate Friendly Battery Powered Military Vehicles”


  79. Another Ian says:

    Music at a lower level


    And “The Bastard from the Bush” added for a national contribution

  80. cdquarles says:

    Weather update: My area is under a tropical storm warning. This is very rare, given how far inland I am; though not unprecedented (I remember how much damage Hugo did to Charlotte, NC, for instance and Ivan to my old house in west-central AL). Forecast cone has this one coming closer to me than the earlier ones to pass through this year relatively nearby (one NW and one SE). It has been one of the wettest years in memory for the last water year and for the current calendar year, to date. November and December are typically wet months.

  81. E.M.Smith says:


    It could be worse… record cold in north central-west plains supposed to run into tropical stom moisture somewhere near Texas / Oklahoma and drop up to 1 to 1 1/2 inces of ICE in an ice storm.

  82. cdquarles says:

    True that, for me, the local forecast has the bottom dropping out from under temps after this thing rolls through. Looking at 30s overnight soon, but no ice. This, too, is not unprecedented. Earliest autumn frost/freeze have happened in *early* October, let alone mid or late October, in my area; with the average date being in mid-November, typically before Thanksgiving.

  83. cdquarles says:

    Update: Looks like New Orleans took a direct hit. This one’s moving quickly (near 25mph) and will cross over the southernmost parts of MS in about 4 hrs. It’ll be around 2AM when the core gets near me, unless it moves faster (I’m near the center of the prediction cone, at the moment, which passes a bit south of Birmingham and a bit north of Montgomery. Peak sustained winds have been downgraded a bit from the earlier ones, but strong gusts are still expected at 50kt.

  84. E.M.Smith says:


    Hunker down and do your best! I don’t want to lose you. You are a special person, so act accordingly!

  85. ossqss says:

    You can kinda watch it in real-time. Stay safe CD!

    Keep in mind that Atlanta is under a Tropical Storm Warning too… That doesn’t happen often.


  86. H.R. says:

    Wow! Zeta is moving fast!

    We’re already getting rain from it here on the North side of the Appalachians. Thank goodness the warmth is dominating. It’s 48 (F) here at 5:55am EST and it looks to be that we’re too far from the Warm/Cold front interface to get the ice storms. I’m seeing that mix on radar West and a bit North of us.

    First thing I looked for is if the winds were going to hit as well as the rain, but the forecast is for winds in the 12+/- mph range today. We’re just getting the rain. Now that I think about it, the Appalachians have probably knocked down the wind. Most Gulf hurricanes turn and head for the Mid-Atlantic States upon hitting the Appalachians, and Zeta seems to be no different.
    Some years back, Hurricane Floyd didn’t make the usual spin towards the Atlantic and instead just blew straight on up into Canada. The central portion of Floyd blew right over us. Our house is somewhat sheltered so we only lost a few shingles off our roof. But out of the 42 houses in our development, 5 or 6 lost so many shingles that they needed a complete roof shingle replacement job. That’s my only recollection of a hurricane making it to my neck of the woods.

    Floyd still had 50 mph winds when it reached us here just below the Great Lakes, and there were gusts up to 70 and 80 mph. The roofers were busy that year.
    Good chance cd lost power, so I’ll be waiting to see how he fared. It could be a while before he can report in. I hope all is OK.

  87. Power Grab says:

    @ EM re Oklahoma ice storm:

    Just one of many amazing pictures of iced-up power lines and other objects.

  88. Power Grab says:

    Here is another item posted by meteorologist Michael Armstrong:

    One of my friends said at their house they spent the day going back and forth from the front of the house to the back, checking on the gunfire-like cracks from the tree branches breaking in their neighborhood. They were trying to track whether it was their trees or their neighbors’ trees that were breaking!

  89. Power Grab says:

    Here is a picture of a layer of ice sliding down a street sign:

  90. E.M.Smith says:


    OMG those are amazing pictures.

    I once, just a few years back, got to drive on an iced over road post ice storm in N. Carolina. It was an experience… It wasn’t nearly as much ice as those pictures! And even then, many freeway overpasses were just closed and the sand trucks were out. IF you hit an unsanded patch it was ice skating time!

    I’m not interested in living where Ice Storms happen, given that one limited exposure.

  91. philjourdan says:

    It blew through here, and the sun came out by 4pm. We got a lot of rain, and some wind, but it was moving fast. Temps today are in the low 50s.

  92. E.M.Smith says:

    Just a side note on Roku vs Browser TV…

    I’d noted before that I was shifting from Youtube Suggested stuff via thd Roku to direct bookmarked creators via a media station connected to the TV. Well, now that’s become obligatory as the Roku just died.

    This is the 2nd Roku stick that has died on me. These were the lowest cost $25 direct plug in to the USB port sticks. They seem to have died at about the same date offset as their purcase. I.E. it looks like a relatively equal life span.

    Now I’m not going to complain (too much…) about s $25 gizmo that only lasts a couple of years… we’re talking $12 to maybe $8 a year amortized. With very heavy use of about 10 hours a day running news and duch ss background if nothing else. Some days up to 16 hours.

    BUT, my best guess is they just run it too hot.

    This is a sealed all solid state gizmo. No moving parts. Nothing to wear out.

    So the only modes of failure I can figure would be electrolytic capacitor failure as they can chemically corrode, or dopant migration in hot semiconductors. Of the two, I lean toward too hot a cpu chip.

    Plastic isn’t a good heat sink. Folks tend to ignore heat management in computers, When your design passes QA, who thinks about “Is it so hot the semiconductors will degrade over the years.”?
    Especially if the hot spot is under a thick plastic layer and the surface is cooler.

    So, OK, no more stick Roku for me.

    I’d wanted to go to wired TV so I could shut off WiFi at night anyway.

    The computer is already on a wired connection, so now I’m there. IF I bother to buy a replacement, I’ll get the delux one with wired connector and hope the over $50 $80 models have better heat management….


    Looks like Roku have raised prices. The lowest price on their web site was $39 and high end ranged from about $79 to around $130.

    I’m thinking maybe it’s time to revisit a Kodi Station…. Or put it on the Christmas wish list…

    I’m just not keen on the idea of a “near $100” gizmo that might die in 2 years…

  93. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, I can get Pluto TV (lots of channels and news) on the computer. That’s one biggy down.

    The only other things (than news) that I tend to “need” are weather and The Orville ;-)

    But The Orville isn’t making new episodes at the moment, so no hurry there (and I can always watch it on the living room TV after the spouse has gone to bed ;-)

    I think I need to sit down in the living room and go through the channels, then find out all that I actually watch and see what’s available on the computer directly.

    We have Prime and the spouse watches that, and CBS streaming. Only thing I watch there is STD… and that only out of a masochistic streak ;-) I’d not miss it. I’m really only watching out of a desire to have “seen all Trek” as a badge of sorts, and out of a morbid curiosity about just how bad they have made it.

    So, OK, I’m thinking a Kodi explore and revisit of my TV tab (up top) is on the cards. I tried Kodi once but just found it more annoying to configure than it was worth. Maybe it’s better now…

    But mostly “I’m set” for a good while. Between Pluto, Youtube, and direct to a few web sites, I’m not lacking anything much (and that I can get in the living room.)

  94. Power Grab says:

    @ EM re:
    “I’m not interested in living where Ice Storms happen, given that one limited exposure.”

    For sure!

    Well, we don’t get huge numbers of them…especially in October. This was quite the anomaly.

    Many people on Twitter were commenting about an ice storm in 2007. So I guess that’s the next-most-severe ice storm they remember.

    The trees in this area have taken quite a beating. I’m wondering how long it will take to clean up all the “tree trash”. People who live in the OKC area say it’s worse there.

    On the other hand, the trees in front of my building escaped serious damage, I’m glad to say. A friend was asking about the redbud tree in front of my place. It escaped unscathed. The other trees were also fine. I wondered if their being so close to the building meant the air temperature around them was enough above freezing to keep the rain from getting frozen on them.

    OTOH, I seem to remember that on one of your treks from CA to FL, you were stopped by an ice storm in the desert southwest…Arizona?? How often does that happen?!?

  95. E.M.Smith says:

    Here’s the link with the photo in it:


    IIRC news at the time said it was an every decade or two kind of thing.

    Trees near a building will be warmer. Even if it just cuts 1 inch down to 1/2 inch, it would save a lot of trees.

    FWIW, Periscope news has a feed up right now of aftermath of a Turkish earthquake.


    Showing a flattened parking garage at the moment.

    (Yes, I’m re-exploring all the ways I got internet TV prior to the Roku ;-)

  96. E.M.Smith says:

    Looks like CBS All Access has a direct site:


    So I can get it directly via the computer.

    We’re now up to about 90% of what I actually use on the Roku…

  97. E.M.Smith says:

    Looks like Prime too:


    That gets me The Orville….

    I think I’m running out of things I watch…

  98. ossqss says:

    Isn’t it ironic we just saw 100k+ infections on Friday in the US? Just sayin…. testing produces results. How about those sensitivity rates on dead virus showing positive?

    Note, CFR is now at 3% globally, whih translates in to a fraction of reality in total.


  99. ossqss says:

    @EM, I would submit watching The Walking Dead, if you haven’t. Lot’s of prepper tips there if nothing else ;-)

    The 100 was also entertaining, but I am a SYFY guy. Let alone, Falling Skies and Grimm. Hey I have had time to binge watch this year. What can I say》》

  100. E.M.Smith says:


    I just got the login info from the spouse so have CBS all access running on the SBC now.

    I liked Walking Dead. Been a while since I watched it though… Hmmm… ;-)

    Might be nice for All Hallows Eve ;-)

    The 100 was good too, though later in the series it gets a bit “reaching” trying to find plot lines that aren’t too nutty… Also some of the “Sci” was more Fantasy than Sci… but hey, fun’s fun, right?

    I watched Falling Skys for a while, but it got a bit dismal. Kinda wandered off to other stuff. I’m more a “Glass 9/10 full” kind of guy and after a while, endless “Super Duper Bad Guys winning Humans struggle to hang on” needs a counterpoint.

    That’s the dilemma of such plot lines. Folks want to see “their side” eventually win, but if they do, that ends the series… It works for movies (like Independence Day) but for a series it “has issues” in that the writers can never let the good guys win. (Though notably iZombie did that as a series ender…)

    Grimm: I liked that one. It was an interesting spin on an old line. Nice complexity, but still a positive trend (in a negative world).

    There was one I was watching that was in Portuguese. (Sub-Titled) that was pretty good too. Don’t remember the title. Most folks live in fabellas in squalor. Every year a few young adults get to test into a high tech island “paradise”. Had a lot of good story lines and built nicely over time. (One “stupid bit” was that those that had the exceptional ability to make it were then prevented from having kids. Long term that just makes for a very stupid herd as all the smart ones get removed.) But overall it was engaging. I really ought to find the name of it… but with the Roku dead, my history died with it, and I don’t have any really good search terms in hand as most of it would be in Portuguese.

    It looks like we have similar habits in entertainment ;-)

  101. cdquarles says:

    I’m back. It was a tropical storm when it got to me. I was on the right front quadrant of it and it was moving very fast at the time. I lost internet about midnight Thursday morning and power about an hour later. The largest of the small incorporated areas (about 13,000) nearby took more damage than the two smaller ones (about 8,000 and 3,000). Power came back on about 8pm Central yesterday. We suffered some roof damage, which was what most of the folk affected also suffered. Lots of limbs and a few trees snapped and/or uprooted. Most of these fell harmlessly, but a few folk had their houses destroyed. We are mostly used to these things (from localized thunderstorms or the occasional tornado), so we are carrying on. Nephew thinks a tornado hit the larger town.

  102. Compu Gator says:

    I hereby request that our host E.M. create a separate ‘post’ a.k.a. topic for “election risks“,  its name inspired by the preInternet mailing -list called “RISKS“,  which was devoted mostly to discovered software foul-ups that risked the security or physical safety of people (e.g., medical-device software), or caused the destruction of expensive things (e.g., a multinational Mars lander), or both categories (e.g., errors in the cosine routine that crashed the U.S. Tactical-Fighter eXperimental, later designated F-111).

    As I,  who recognize that I’m not the host of the Chiefio blog, visualize the topic, it would be the place here at Chiefio for reports, and links to them, of foul-ups, potential exploits, and other skullduggery that constitute risks to valid results from the 2020 presidential-election.

    I shouldn’t have to make this explicit, but the topic should not be a place where Chiefio denizens lazily toss in news or suspicions that are plainly off-topic (e.g., CoVId-19 treatments, Trump rallies as events, or Biden-family financial corruption), instead of checking titles in the “Recent Posts” list to find a place where they are plausibly on-topic.

  103. jim2 says:

    EM – I have a Roku that doesn’t plug directly into the TV. When I was first using it, I noted it ran hot. So got some heat sink grease and zip-tied it to a heatsink bigger than it is. The assembly sits upright. It has been that way a couple of years now and (knock on wood), so far, so good.

  104. cdquarles says:

    About ice storms, we occasionally get them, though less often than we get snow storms. Those often leave ice on the road the next day or so after the sun melts it some then it re-freezes. I found myself leaving Baltimore, MD almost 40 years ago ahead of one. I took 95 southbound then 85 over to 40 then to the mountains before it got too close. In the mountains, interestingly, the weather wasn’t as dicey. I made it home just fine.

  105. E.M.Smith says:


    Good idea. I’d bought a 3rd (ir remote) Roku before the first stick died. It’s still running in the living room and doesn’t seem too hot (but maybe I ought to check ;-) I got it as the ‘radio remote’ on one of the sticks was dying and I figured I’d try the other remote type. Now I’m just generally thinking Roku stuff isn’t sturdy…

    I’m likely to get a new Roku in the post Christmas Sales rush. I’m also likely to put a heat sink on it as you described ;-)


    I’d been planning to put up a “D-for Donald Day” posting to discuss the election as it happens. I could easily see putting that up a day or three early for tracking election “stuff” as it happens. Or would you want “election news” separated from “election SHTF” issues?

  106. YMMV says:

    Covid early warning system — your FitBit can help!
    “In the study, the data model was able to predict which people were positive for COVID-19 with about 80% accuracy—typically as they began to sleep more, and move less. But this also included specific deviations from daily patterns that pointed more toward a coronavirus infection than other illnesses, they said.”

    “Our research shows that our bodies start to fight the disease before more visible symptoms appear and we believe Fitbit can reliably detect these signals, giving us an incredible opportunity to get ahead of this virus and help alert people that they could be sick before they unknowingly spread it to others,”

  107. jim2 says:

    EM – When electronic devices release their essential smoke, I scavenge the parts, including heat sinks. I found a micro-torch works great for removing resistor, capacitors, etc. Pliers on the component side and torch on the other, it allows removal with minimal heat transferred to the part.

  108. Compu Gator says:

    E.M.Smith replied 31 October 2020 at 4:43 pm GMT:
    I’d been planning to put up a “D-for Donald Day” posting to discuss the election as it happens. I could easily see putting that up a day or three early for tracking election “stuff” as it happens. Or would you want “election news” separated from “election SHTF” issues?

    My vision has them definitely separated from “D-for Donald Day”,  which would be a worthwhile topic on its own merits. And I prefer the “or three early” option, if not “four”.

    Altho’ not exactly “election SHTF” issues, I’m interested in exploitable flaws in the election laws & procedures of various states. So I would’ve included your warning about commercial postage meters in the context of “postmark” deadlines (N.C.? Penn.?). But were it to happen, I’d also include news of the arrival of mysterious pallets of manure and pallets of fans outside polling places.

    “D-for Donald Day” might be a better place for news of polling-place gangs of Antifa or B.L.M.

    I’ve already drafted comments about legal voting procedures in Florida, but there’s no place right now where we readers of Chiefio can focus on them. I’d also submit comments on details to be considered in evaluating sloppy news reporting in-or-about other states (e.g., the meaning of variously reported “deadlines”).

    Now if you’ll excuse me, a specific congenial source of draft Märzen/Oktoberfest beer and grilled Bratwurst is calling more and more loudly. Ca. 3 p.m. EDT: 85°F and mostly sunny (Oh!  United-Statesians should prepare to turn U.S. “Daylight”-shifting clocks back to standard time overnight).

  109. E.M.Smith says:

    Why I run as much stuff as I can on UTC time…

    OK, next posting up will be an election mechanics and risks spot.

  110. YMMV says:

    Interesting quote from Czechia:

    According to the president of our republic, the most important current problem is the wearing or not wearing of the face masks. Is he serious? He is. Otherwise he wouldn’t repeat this idea thrice in a row and he would mention other, much more essential, troubles. So according to the president, the face mask fashion is the main ache that the public feels. Can’t he see hundreds of thousands of people who are afraid of their existence? Can’t he see that his country resembles a fairy-tale kingdom cursed by the Winter Queen and covered by a black baize? Can’t he see the frozen, lifeless streets? Hundreds or thousands of bankrupt small business owners? Can’t he see millions of people who are rightfully afraid of their future, of their job, of their savings? Can’t he see the old people who have been maneuvered into home prisons and stripped of the right to be visited by their beloved ones? Can’t he see the social catastrophe that has the potential to become a tragedy within months? Does he have nothing to say about any of these matters? I was outraged by all of it.


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  112. DoNoNorth says:

    Regards the Roku. I have two of the “hockey puck” Roku’s running on wired ethernet. A “3” (in service 2/14) and a Premiere+ (in service 5/17). The “3” sits on an open shelf with unobstructed air flow for the sides and top. The Premiere+ is in a closed cabinet, elevated on small blocks so there air flow all sides and top/bottom. My two units have never been more than slightly warm to the touch whether idling or after hours of streaming.

    As you have mentioned – maybe the tight, compact form factor for the Sticks leads to the hot running.

  113. E.M.Smith says:


    Thanks for the information.

    I’d wanted to move to the wired Roku anyway (to be able to shut off WiFi at night for better sleep – yes, we’ve tested it and it matters) so I’m not really bummed. I bought the first ROKU about 3 years before it died and this one is about the same:

    Looks like I was remembering the price wrong (or maybe it was the 2nd one as I think it was on sale / clearance of some kind). The first one was $49. So figure about $13 / year or a bit over $1 / month. Not exactly a big deal.

    So this enables me to buy the wired one I want without guilt about having an unused Roku sitting around…

    IIRC it was “warm to the touch” when running (but now I can’t really verify that). I have a vague memory of thinking “That’s a bit too warm” when I first plugged it in.

    Now I get to wander through all the Roku offerings to find out just what are my choices in “wired option”. Oh Well.

    The nice thing is that I can now be sure to keep “whatever” I get temperature monitored. Also, I’m fairly happy with all the “via computer” options. I collected a pretty good set of channels I tend to watch via Youtube, Bitchute, LBRY, etc. I’ve also got direct access to the main subscriptions we use and of course Pluto for oh so many channels and live news / weather. In fact, I’m still watching most of the stuff I did before, but without a Roku. Go figure.

    I like the Roku interface a bit better and I find that the channel selection menu lets you browse around to find out what’s out there nicely. Also, the YouTube on the Roku has a different pattern of what it offers / suggests that is nice for “discovery” of channels on it, too. But I already made a list of most of them so…

    Well, back to the Trump Rally ;-)

  114. Another Ian says:

    “ANZ bankers kneel to carbon God, betray Australian farmers, miners — “don’t deserve a banking licence” ”


  115. Ossqss says:

    @EM, I believe the only new Roku you will find with an RJ45x jack is the Ultra @$99. They do produce sound bars now also, but only the Ultra has a jack for ethernet.

    You might find some used or new older iterations running older processors for less on Ebay or Amazon with a jack.


  116. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, in 20 minutes I’ll have finished canning 50 lbs of Beef Tallow (aka beef fat shortening).

    I bought a block of it at Smart & Final for not much per lb just to find out if it really makes french fries taste great ;-)

    But working from a 50 lb. block as restaurants buy is, er, cumbersome.

    Solid fats tend to keep for many months to years. There’s several foods preserved in fat. (Confit, pemmican,…) so it isn’t hard to keep it for a while. Main failure mode is oxidation (accelerated by heat).

    A couple of years ago I did a test with a few jars of lard. After a year it was unchanged.

    How I did it:

    Melt a 2 gallon pot of fat. Heat to 240 F. Have bare jars in a 240 F oven. Take out 4 jars at a time. Fill and wipe rim, apply dry lid, just finger tight. Back in the oven. When all jars are full and in the oven, set the time to 1 hour. When you return, take them from the oven, tighten each lid to snug and set it on a folded dish towel to cool.

    When solidified and cooled, snug down lids. Tapping the top ought to ping or tink. Any that thunk can be reprocessed or just use them first over the next year…

    That’s it.

    In theory, I can now deep fry as much as I want for a few years without being worried about tossing out slightly used oil ;-)

    I figured it was about 6 1/2 gallons by volume… based on a rough count of jars used. It calculates out to 6.9 gal. by weight and specific gravity.

    If nothing else, should the EOTWAWKI happen, we have plenty of fat to go with the beans and rice and keep us in calories until we can restart civilization (and evolve gills ;-) yeah, it’ s a LOT of shortening… I’m going to try some in bread in place of other oils)

    I did fry 2 eggs in the ‘left overs’ today. They are nice, but I like them in butter just a little better. Then again, what isn’t better in butter? ;-)

  117. Ossqss says:

    On the Roku Ultra item, you do get a good set of earbuds and a remote that you can plug them into for listening in private for the price paid.

  118. E.M.Smith says:


    While I’m a cheap SOB when reasonable, price isn’t really an issue given a few years amortization period and the desire for microwave free nights.

    Repeated testing confirms 5GHz disrupts our sleep. 2.5 GHz is more marginal on effect, but I’d like it off at night too.

    So I guess Ultra it is.

  119. E.M.Smith says:

    FWIW, the spouse will appreciate me having the ear buds ;-)

  120. Ossqss says:

    @EM, the $79 Wallyworld exclusive edition Ultra drops the USB port and lessens the earbuds, but adds a mirco usb reader from what I see?

    Frankly, I would opt for the better earbud option (and more minor options for $20) since I don’t play media to a Roku via an SD card and like programmable buttons.

  121. E.M.Smith says:

    Amazon has some Ultra for $79. I’ve not done the homework of learning option sets yet. I’m presently happy using one of my SBCs, but I know eventually I’ll get a new Roku. Perhaps in the post Christmas sales.

    Thanks for pointing out that features vary. Now I know I need to pay attention…

    At present, the only thing I want and can’t get on the computer is The Orville. BUT filming on the next season is halted for Chinese Wuhan Covid, so no hurry there :-} Probably just a login on something somewhere…

    I’m actually enjoying the (minor) challenge of getting everything running on the computer. More interesting than a menu on a stick 8-) Eventually I’ll get bored and just throw money at it. 8-]

    Then there’s always the livingroom Roku… though I end up with a dog in my lap… 9-)

  122. p.g.sharrow says:

    As to use of lard and tallow. Back in the old days when fat frying was common. Used fat was clarified by frying potatoes in it for chips or fries. This was also used as a step after rendering and before storage to eliminate off odors and sediment…pg

  123. E.M.Smith says:

    Lucky for me this is already pure white and near no odor, as I’ve run out of potatoes!

    Used some tonight for fried chicken and chips / fries (thus being out of potatoes). The fries were good, especially warm. On cooling, residual fat hardens and they are less good. The chicken was OK, but I like it cooked in olive oil better. The cold chicken leftovers work better without a solid fat deposit…

    Tomorrow I’ll try some as shortening in bread… normally I use coconut oil, butter, or palm oil, if nothing else is about, safflower, canola, or olive oil. It is possible to have no added fat. Each kind of fat or oil has a minor shift of flavor or texture.

    If nothing else, I can always turn the excess into soap or candles ;-)

  124. Steve C says:

    Not edible or TV, but here’s a couple of most interesting posts on Ancient Origins, both of which have lurked unread by me for too long:
    1 – “Translation of 5,500-Year-Old Babel Text from China Reveals Oldest Known Map of Inner Solar System”

    A teasing taste, from near the end:
    “Unfortunately, it is not possible to discuss all the results here, but it is now clear that the
    Bible was correct. There was a time when the whole earth was of one language , and of
    one speech.”

    2 – “The Discovery that Revealed Ancient Humans Navigated the Seas 130,000 Years Ago”
    With a title like that … ;-)

  125. Steve C says:

    Forgot to mention that, a couple of weeks or so ago, the UK’s best-known street artist, Banksy, visited Nottingham and left a pretty little calling card which has given the area a lift:
    (Sadly, the Mail article reveals near the end that he spends his money on a boat to “rescue” migrants in the Mediterranean – i.e. to get them into Europe. Sigh. Good art, though.)

  126. H.R. says:

    Just got a call from “Vanessa”. Here’s a 98.5% accurate transcript of the call.

    Me: Hello… (long pause so obviously a call center)
    Vanessa: Hello?

    Me: Hello again

    Vanessa: This is Vanessa, is this [my name]?

    Me: Wait… who do you represent, Vanessa?

    Vanessa: I’m with the Vehicle Protection Center and…

    -/cut in/- Me: Oh, I have a gun, Vanessa. I think my vehicle is adequately protected.
    [Click] bzzzzzzzzz

    (Bugs Bunny voice) Ain’t I a stinkah?

    Exceptionally good mood today. No worries until late tonight when I check in on election results.

  127. E.M.Smith says:


    I knew there was something I liked about you! 8-)

    True story:

    Once, about 1985, got a call about “Saving The CHILDREN!!!”… soliciting money for some left leaning thing or another.

    Her: I’m calling from Save The Children FOO Org.
    Me: Oh, I love saving children.
    Her: Can I count on you giving a donation to FOO.Org today?
    Me: Well, first, I’d like to know a bit more about how you save children. My favorite method is in 5 gallon glass container of formaldehyde. It’s a really nice preservative. They stay so lifelike in it.
    Her: Loooooooonnng pause. CLICK

    They never called back again…

  128. Power Grab says:

    @ EM re frying potatoes in beef tallow…

    Somewhere I read that McDonald’s formerly fried their french fries in a combination of beef tallow and coconut oil. IIRC, the ratio was 10-to-1 (beef tallow-to-coconut oil).

    Since then, I read that they’re best fried in goose fat, like they would do it in France. I never have goose fat around, but after I stewed a chicken, which left a nice layer of fat on the top, which I scraped off and saved…I fried some potatoes in that and decided it was the best I had ever done.

    Lately, however, I have used bacon drippings to fry potatoes and onion pieces and Spam pieces in. When it’s mostly done, I dump in several eggs stirred up with salsa. Then cook until done. My kid liked it enough to ask for it specifically about a week later. I said I need a name for the dish. My working title is “Rocky Road Spam-and-Potato Scramble”. We’ll see if that sticks, even though it is rather cumbersome. :-)

  129. p.g.sharrow says:

    @Power Grab; The first thing that came to mind was “Road Kill” Lol 8-) …pg

  130. llanfar says:


    I have the heart of a child. I keep it in my nightstand.

  131. H.R. says:

    @Powerr Grab – That dish sounds delish! Easy to make any time. 👍

    I have to throw in my vote with p.g. for Road Kill. Then maybe you ought to copyright that recipe.

    Now if you’d just left out the salsa, maybe, maybe I could be persuaded to back a different name 😜

  132. H.R. says:

    @llanfar – I have the big, generous heart of a fervent donor.

    Sadly, it’s too big to fit in my nightstand.

  133. E.M.Smith says:


    Ah, schmaltz!

    Rendered or clarified chicken or goose fat…

    My Dad used to say two things about changing the fryer grease:

    1) New shortening is bland and isn’t quite right.
    2) Leave some old grease behind so it tastes right.

    We cooked anything deep fried in the same fryers. That included the fried chicken. Over time, chicken fat renders out of the chicken bits into the fryer oil as some fryer oil leaves on each fried thing (chicken, french fries, whatever) so over time the schmaltz to tallow ratio shifts…

    I’m pretty sure that’s why “first time” wasn’t “quite right” and why about day 2 it was really tasty.

    FWIW, I tend to save “pan drippings” from baked chicken to later make soup or other dishes. A nice layer of schmaltz tends to form on top and can be removed for use “elsewhere”. I’m planning to try that in some tallow and see what happens…

    I find it interesting that English has different words for the rendered fat of different animals. Tallow for beef, lard for pigs, schmaltz for chicken or goose (implying they are easy substitutes for each other…)

    I tend to save the frying oil from any chicken I do. It sits in a big wide mouth jar in the fridge. Slowly, over time, it gets yellower as the schmaltz builds up. It also gets tastier and makes better fried chicken. Just sayin’…

    Now typically the base has been “some oil”, often safflower if I can find it, or sunflower if it’s available. Pure white Palm Oil is best but harder to find. I avoid peanut oil as it is very long chain fatty acids (20 & 21 long) and tended to cause my son (and perhaps others in the family) to develop clogged pores. I avoid soybean & corn oil due to the high omega-6 ratio and potential for GMO Bt Toxin bits to carry over. Plus the high polyunsaturated degree means it goes off quickly and can’t be used for higher temperatures AND it forms more acrylamide that is a carcinogen. I’ve lately begun using “lite in flavor” Olive Oil for frying oil base. It works well.

    Coconut Oil tends to foam up if you fry in it. (So is used as a base oil for a lot of soaps as that fatty acid based soap also foams well ;-) No, really, IIRC 12 carbons long something like lauric acid so you get sodium laurate in soaps.) IF you dilute it enough you can stop the foaming.

    I’ll give the 10:1 (and maybe even a 5:1) ratio tallow : coconut a try. Tallow straight is a bit “oily” and when cold a bit “greasy” on the food. I’m also going to see if added schmaltz makes it “right”.

    As a very highly saturated oil (something like 18 carbons no double bonds IIRC (Yup, I did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stearic_acid ) it is very heat stable and doesn’t make nasty stuff in the frying like polyunsaturated oils do. Mixing it with another shorter saturated acid like in coconut oil would work well, I think. (Checking on my coconut memory too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauric_acid yup…)

    The choice of what oil to use dramatically affects some food flavors and how healthy the product can be AND what cooking method that oil is best for matters a lot too. Polyunsaturated oils ought to be for cold use only, not frying. Frying oils need to be saturated or monounsaturated oils if possible as you get a higher smoke temperature and far less carcinogens made.

    So I’m planning from here on out to use the tallow as a blending agent in frying oils, as a shortening in some baking (test case…) and as input to soap making if desired.

    Oh, and remember the slogan: “Save The Schmaltz!!” Most folks won’t know what the heck it means and it’s fun to watch them… and the ones who DO know what it means ;-)

  134. H.R. says:

    I’ve been mean to ask this for about 6 months or so. It’s something I noticed in late Spring when the various shortages eased up.
    Has anyone else noticed something hinky about egg sizes, in the consumer’s favor?
    For a while, a dozen Large factory eggs went to $2.00+/-… when you could find them. But then the egg supply chain adjusted to the Kung Flu disruption and it was eggs, eggs, eggs, everywhere. Cartons of 18 eggs were as low as 89¢.

    So, did anyone beside me notice that in a carton of Large eggs, there were mostly Extra Large and even a few Jumbo eggs? I’m asking just to make sure I wasn’t seeing things.

    I just figured they set up to get rid of eggs, and just let everything large and above go through to perhaps to save on sorting and packaging.

    Anyhow, supply of a lot of food types have stabilized. I just bought a carton of 18 Large eggs for $1.27, so supply is still ahead of demand. Most of the eggs were Large, as I’ve been used to, but there were still some Extra Large eggs sprinkled through the carton.

    It could just be local. There are 2-3 factory egg farms in our region and perhaps they couldn’t get them shipped out to their usual, larger market. That’s all I can think of to explain the cheap, larger eggs I saw throughout late Spring through mid-Summer.

  135. p.g.sharrow says:

    @HR, you are right. The quality of egg sizing in cartons has greatly changed this spring. Perhaps any premium for extra large eggs has disappeared. Chickens lay more eggs and larger eggs in the spring then they do in the fall. Laying batteries try to control temperature and lighting to minimize this tendency. We use a lot of eggs, flats of 60 every two weeks. From time to time I consider repopulating our chicken vault but eggs are just too cheap at present…pg

  136. philjourdan says:

    I noticed Jumbo (the only size the wife wants) was hard to find at first, but is back and common place now. I have not seen an increase in size in those cartons, as I was not looking at large and medium, Maybe I should have.

    I have notice the feral female cat that comes around is a hoe! She came this afternoon with Sylvester (because he has the markings of Sylvester) and then tonight with Spectre (because he is there, and then not!).

    All are feral, but I had to add that because this bitch be a hoe! LOL

  137. E.M.Smith says:

    On Eggs:

    Yeah, bought a box of Jumbo and they were REALLY big. Large now looks sort of jumbo-ish. Had one box of mediums that were smaller than I expected, and another larger.

    I get the impression that a lot of the Factory Food Producers might have cut back buying 50 gallon barrels of already opened eggs, so the more “irregular” stock had to go into cartons…

    Folks at home cooking more means fewer commercial packages going to restaurants, dorms, factory cafeteria, etc.

    Oh, and I had one box of jumbo that was mostly double yolk eggs. Usually those go into the industrial processing side.

  138. llanfar says:

    @E.M. Double yolk? Yum!

  139. H.R. says:

    Hey, thanks everyone. I thought it was just me.

    For all of my years of egg buying, the sizing was fairly consistent. This year after the brief egg shortage in the Spring, sizing went wocka-wocka, given my prior experience.

    I wasn’t sure if I just never noticed the inconsistency before or if it really was a ‘thing.’ But y’all noticed it, too.

    I’m not complaining, mind you; bigger eggs and cheaper prices. Now if the sizing had gone the other way….. 😜

  140. H.R. says:

    And now, for something completely different…
    (Where have I heard that before? ;o)

    I stumbled across this series of 5 videos, all of them long, about a 25-year living archeology project where the researchers are building a medieval castle using only the tools, tech, clothing, food, living quarters, etc. of the time. This video series starts when the project is 17 years along.

    (link to first video at the bottom)

    I was going to skip through it, but I wound up watching part 1 start to finish and it was w-a-a-a-y late in the am. I Went ahead and skimmed through the following 4 videos before calling it quits.

    This is excellent “quiet time” viewing; a good choice for when you want to clear your mind of the madness of modern days. They have done an excellent job of doing everything as it was, or might have been done, in medieval times. There are some interesting bits where they point out that there are some things that have no real documentation to go on, so they make their best guess at how those things were done then, and then do it that way.

    These researchers have put themselves in a tough situation. Life was nothing but day-long hard work, just to live, let alone also build a castle. They live it, plain food that they grow on site, bad underwear, primitive housing, and all.

    The craftsmen are being paid to do build the castle and also teach the researcher ‘apprentices’. The researchers come and go to get hands-on-insight into their particular medieval specialties. As near as I can gather, the 3 researchers this video follows are in it for 6(?) months. Other researchers spend maybe a few weeks, months, or even a couple of years on site.

    I don’t know if the craftsmen have modern quarters away from the site. They seem to have been hired for the long haul and may not fare well living an actual medieval life for 10 -15 -25 years, thus my guess is that they get modern food and conveniences.

    I never did catch who was funding this ‘living archeology’ project. I’ll look it up later. Twenty-five years, the cost of the craftsmen, and the cost of the castle is not exactly beer money and a 2-Summer dig.

  141. E.M.Smith says:

    There are lots of “Reenactor” gigs. There’s even some villages that recreate the 1700s. One YouTube channel specializes in the food of the era and the ways it was made (good stuff too!). I’ve attended a Civil War Reeanaction (guest of the Rebel Navy Submarine corps…) and all manner of “period correct” gear was for sale. (Folks doing the reenacting are sticklers for accuracy and you can’t just buy any old pot for your tea…)

    Smithing and Stone Masonry have added a lot of new kit, but generally not taken away much of the old. The Smith will be important if they are trying to do it all with tools of the era, as that Smith will need to be making those tools. (No chromium and super hard steels for them… plain old forge born high carbon steel at most.)

    My Dad taught me how to make a few bits when I was a kid. Starts with a square nail, then a screw driver, then a basic knife. We talked about making tongs and such, but I never made one. I know how, though… Oh, and files and chisels. Files are the hardest (in both ways ;-). You have to cut them a LOT and then harden them A LOT. And that’s after the metal is made right and the shape made.

    The major differences in a modern Smithy are powered blowers and a better selection of starting iron / steels, along with more precise gauges. You also don’t have to boot strap up (making files to make the tools to make better files to make saws to put handles on the files and screwdrivers to… So one big question is “Could they start with a Home Depot box and slowly replace bits over time?”…) My guess would be “yes”. (Otherwise you add a lot of work just to get to where you can start the work…). But any Smith with experience can step up to a fire and pick up a hammer and work a chunk of metal on an anvil into something you need. Just takes time…

    Then the stone masons mostly just need to do stone cutting and dressing, mix mortar and stack. Maybe put some metal ties in if you get fancy. Aside from loss of diamond saw blades, it’s not much changed. They will be good friends with the Smith as they will frequently need chisels sharpened and hardened…

    Here’s the cooking guy:


    He makes some of his own tools too. Authentic all the way…


    FWIW, I have a fascination with reenacting and “old tech”… One of my books is something like “Technology Of The Hittites”… Then there’s the one on how to make a steam engine like in 1800s ships… And my vacuum tube handbook… And my late 1800s / early 1900s “Formulas, processes and trade secrets” (Just in case you need to make your own chemical lab, glues, etc. like in horse and buggy days…). Oh, and my foundry book. Everyone needs to know how to make an 1800s foundry… ;-) Then there’s my food preservation books with 1700s to 1800s methods in them… and the leather tanning book… Did you know you can make a kind of window from oiled thin skins? I also have a Smithing book, but it is pretty basic and not very old.

    Well, somebody has to be ready to restart civilization after the fall ;-) I mean, really, who’s going to make the mud ovens and rock saws using sand, rope, and wood and turn rocks into metal if not me? 8-)

  142. cdquarles says:

    Indeed, our most gracious host; which is one of the reasons why I don’t like the general idea of deliberately killing off the old, or the knowledgeable, or both.

  143. vcmathjm says:

    Pretty cool video talking about the new Mask+ protocol to prevent Covid. Ivermectin plays a big roll.
    Video at

    More details at the Frontline Covid-19 Critical Care alliance

  144. Steve C says:

    The Guédelon castle-building project in France is excellent! I’ve been mightily impressed by both the amount of hard physical work they’ve put in and their persistence. The UK publisher Haynes, best known over decades for their excellent Workshop Manuals for practically all cars, have produced a book “The Medieval Castle” (ISBN 978 1 78521 147 8, $29.95) which gives a good overview of the project and some of the problems they’ve had to solve again.

    On the topic of lost knowledge, a friend visited a technology museum a few years ago. He says he walked into their display “workshop” and realised he knew how to use every “historic” tool hanging on the wall – it made him feel like a fossil! Seriously, though, when the SHTF, it’s not going to be your all-singing all-dancing electronic toys that are going to save you, it’s that “good old fashioned” knowhow and elbow grease, and it only takes a generation to lose the knowhow.

  145. H.R. says:

    @Steve C – So, you’ve been there? That would be too cool!

    The one thing thought that struck me was the videos were made in year 17 of the 25-year build. What if they didn’t finish? The ‘Great Tower’ is only half-way up, as I understand.

    If they don’t give it a final big push, or extend the project, they will have succeeded in creating a Medieval Ruined Castle 😜 Reminds me of a few of my ‘weekend projects’ where I ran out of weekend before the project was done. 😁

  146. jim2 says:

    I’m a big fan of Forged in Fire. Fun show and you learn a lot about what can happen when things go South.

  147. jim2 says:

    Biden’s medical advisor Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel wants to give away our vaccine to foreign countries and toss anyone over 65 under the bus, just like Obummer did with Obummercare.



  148. H.R. says:

    @jim2 – Thanks for the memory jogger. I’ve caught a smidge of Forged in Fire and liked it very much, but the Mrs. surfs on by.

    I’ll have to look up online viewing, if it’s available, so I can watch it all I want.
    No thanks for yet-another-thing about the Commie-Dem-CCP-Puppet Biden (Harris, really) that just pi$$es me off. Good to know, though. I’m over 65.

    P.S. – Just checked and I can get the shows online. Yay!

  149. E.M.Smith says:

    I liked the episodes of Forged In Fire that I saw. I was surprised how much I already knew / remembered from Dad… There were times I’d watch one of the guys and be thinking things like “That’s gonna crack…” and yup, it would crack…

    Part of the problem is the time pressure they put the smiths under. Iron changes properties with rate of cooling and to some extent heating. You can’t change that, or rush it. So you must soften the iron to draw out the shape and thin the blade, then without leaving any discontinuities behind, harden all of it “just enough” and then the edge a good bit more. That’s all time driven processing, seasoned by degree of deformation per hammer strike.

    Hammer the blade out too fast and at too low a temperature, you get cracks or weak spots. Quench it too fast after, you get a brittle blade that will crack easily (don’t cool it at the right slow rate, it will be too soft and weak and prone to bending). Then the edge won’t hold unless you harden it just enough more. Knives are very difficult to get right by hand.

    That was part of what I didn’t like about the show. Like most of those competition shows, they deliberately set the time available just on the edge of not enough.

  150. Why doesn’t Joe Biden visit children with cancer in hospitals?… Because he can’t sniff their hair.

  151. philjourdan says:

    Weird thing just happened. Apparently I lost thread to the Nov 16, 2018 WOOD thread, and never read the final entries, It popped to the top of my inbox today, and I clicked on it, not paying attention to the date. and started reading. Got an eerie feeling when I started reading all the Larry Ledwick posts. That is when I checked the date. I scrolled down to the bottom to see if someone had entered a new comment (that would cause it to pop to the top), but as it is 2 years old, it was locked and the last comment was from 2 years ago. So I have no clue how it popped to the top.

  152. p.g.sharrow says:

    @EMSmith, and others I am wondering just how in – credible this post might be;
    If real this is a BIG DEAL…pg

  153. President Elect H.R. says:

    @President Elect😜 p.g.sharrow re link:

    a) Trump ain’t no dummy.

    ii) Trump seems unworried. Pissed, but unworried.

    3) Interesting find. Wouldn’t surprise me if he had gamed this out two years ago.

    D) Thanks, d-u-u-u-d-e. 👍

  154. p.g.sharrow says:

    Hey HR, I’m no plutocrat, I got out of politics 40 years ago. 8-) Lol. just pg. is good enough.

  155. V.P. Elect Smith says:


    I’ve clicked through some of their links and they go where said.

    The E.O. looks valid. Their interpretation of it, at first blush, looks over hyped.

    In particular, calling CNN a “foreign company” is a bit much. HQ in Atlanta…

    BUT it will take a lot more digging and some legal beagles opinions to know for sure.

    I’ve got a tiny bit of 2nd confirmation. Tim Pool IRL makes an oblique reference to a US raid on servers in Spain, but no details and no link / reference, so a “Go Fish” in the internet needed.

    My guess at this point is that the EO was aimed at Dominion and Scytl, not much more, and Soros & other overseas backers of them. Not the media companies.

    But a lot more actions needed to validate.

  156. p.g.sharrow says:

    Yes, I would expect that this will be kept under wraps for as much as possible to allow for netting as many rats as possible. Thank you, I figure here is the best place for any news bits to show up.pg

  157. V.P. Elect Smith says:


    lists a lot of folks repeating the story. Some citing Gohmert, others “intel sources”.

    My guess is something happened, but exactly what and the implications are vague.

    Messy search results follow as I’m in no mood at the moment to clean them up, pretty print, and put quotes around it:

    ‘Scytl Server Raid in Germany,’ Louis Gohmert Brings Up …
    Search domain heavy.com/news/scytl-server-germany-raid/https://heavy.com/news/scytl-server-germany-raid/
    2020-11-13T19:16:37Z. Rep. Louis Gohmert of Texas brought up a German Twitter rumor that members of the U.S. Army raided the German headquarters of voting software protection company Scytl during …
    Did the US Raid European Software Company Scytl and Seize …
    Search domain thespectator.info/2020/11/14/did-the-us-raid-european-software-company-scytl-and-seize-their-servers-in-germany-our-intel-source-says-yes-it-happened/https://thespectator.info/2020/11/14/did-the-us-raid-european-software-company-scytl-and-seize-their-servers-in-germany-our-intel-source-says-yes-it-happened/
    Earlier today Rep. Louie Gohmert told Chris Salcedo on Newsmax that people on the ground in Germany report that Scytl, which hosted elections data improperly through Spain, was raided by a large US ARMY force and their servers were seized in Frankfurt. The video went viral. Andrea Widburg at Am …
    The raid of Scytl server by U.S army – Questions to Ponder …
    Search domain gnews.org/560531/https://gnews.org/560531/
    Author: Redbeard. On NZ time the 14 th of November 2020, a breaking news about U.S army raiding Scytl server facility in Frankfurt, Germany was widely spread in Twitter. The Scytl server stores the database of Dominion, a vote counting software used by almost 80% states in U.S 2020 election.
    Rep. Louie Gohmert Says U.S. Military Has Raided Scytl …
    Search domain welovetrump.com/2020/11/15/rep-louie-gohmert-says-u-s-military-has-raided-scytl-server-facility-in-frankfurt-germany-hammer-scorecard-dominion-scytl/https://welovetrump.com/2020/11/15/rep-louie-gohmert-says-u-s-military-has-raided-scytl-server-facility-in-frankfurt-germany-hammer-scorecard-dominion-scytl/
    Here is The Gateway Pundit with more:. UPDATE: Scytl reportedly refuted the claims on Saturday morning. Then their website crashed. * * * * * * * * * * Earlier today Rep. Louie Gohmert told Chris Salcedo on Newsmax that people on the ground in Germany report that Scytl, which hosted elections data improperly through Spain, was raided by a large US ARMY force and their servers were seized in …
    The raid of Scytl server by U.S army – Questions to Ponder …
    Search domain http://www.themillennialbridge.com/the-raid-of-scytl-server-by-u-s-army-questions-to-ponder/https://www.themillennialbridge.com/the-raid-of-scytl-server-by-u-s-army-questions-to-ponder/
    On NZ time the 14 th of November 2020, a breaking news about U.S army raiding Scytl server facility in Frankfurt, Germany was widely spread in Twitter. The Scytl server stores the database of Dominion, a vote counting software used by almost 80% states in U.S 2020 election. The database contains huge evidences of fraud voting from Biden campaign.
    U.S. Military Raided Scytl Servers In Germany For Evidence …
    Search domain ho1.us/2020/11/u-s-military-raided-scytl-servers-in-germany-for-evidence-after-vote-switching-scandal/https://ho1.us/2020/11/u-s-military-raided-scytl-servers-in-germany-for-evidence-after-vote-switching-scandal/
    According to intelligence sources U.S. Military raided voting machine company Scytl servers in Germany for evidence of manipulation in 2020 US Elections after it was exposed in vote switching scandal by GreatGameIndia. Scytl has a long history of election fraud in various nations including injecting backdoors in its election software.
    Did the US Raid European Software Company Scytl and Seize …
    Search domain http://www.lucianne.com/2020/11/13/did_the_us_raid_european_software_company_scytl_and_seize_their_servers_in_germany__our_intel_source_says_yes_it_happened_48308.htmlhttps://www.lucianne.com/2020/11/13/did_the_us_raid_european_software_company_scytl_and_seize_their_servers_in_germany__our_intel_source_says_yes_it_happened_48308.html
    Did the US Raid European Software Company Scytl and Seize their Servers in Germany? — Our Intel Source Says YES, IT HAPPENED! Gateway Pundit, by Jim Hoft Original Article. Posted By: ScottC, 11/13/2020 11:10:51 PM Earlier today Rep. Louie Gohmert told Chris Galcedo on Newsmax that people on the ground in Germany report that Scytl, which …
    Watch: US Raids Scytl Servers In Germany To Collect …
    Search domain conservativedailypost.com/watch-us-raids-scytl-servers-in-germany-to-collect-evidence-cia-kept-out-of-the-loop/https://conservativedailypost.com/watch-us-raids-scytl-servers-in-germany-to-collect-evidence-cia-kept-out-of-the-loop/
    For those of you who have never heard of Scytl, there is a detailed twitter thread detailing the operations of the facility. 🚨 SCYTL RAID 🚨@replouiegohmert reveals US Army (CIA?) team raid on Scytl server facility in Frankfurt, Germany to recover “extremely compelling” data detailing vote switching.
    Scytl Scuttled: Election Fraud Servers Seized By Huge U.S …
    Search domain http://www.lenorathompsonwriter.com/beyondnarcissism/scytl-scuttled-election-fraud-servers-seized-by-huge-us-army-force-in-frankfurthttps://www.lenorathompsonwriter.com/beyondnarcissism/scytl-scuttled-election-fraud-servers-seized-by-huge-us-army-force-in-frankfurt
    Why the hell was the USA 2020 election data being stored on servers in Frankfurt, Germany owned by Scytl, a Spanish company? Not anymore! Eyewitnesses, Rep. Louis Gohmert and other sources online have confirmed that the United State military (not the CIA) in cooperation with Germany recently confiscated those servers. The circle is complete. We have the smoking gun!
    FACT-CHECK: Did our government execute a “Raid” in Germany …
    Search domain http://www.ptnewsnetwork.com/fact-check-did-our-government-execute-a-raid-in-germany-and-find-proof-of-election-tampering-and-fraud/https://www.ptnewsnetwork.com/fact-check-did-our-government-execute-a-raid-in-germany-and-find-proof-of-election-tampering-and-fraud/
    Scytl’s web site states, “Scytl has successfully delivered election modernization projects in the US since 2008, and most recently for the 2018 Midterm Elections when over 70M voters from more than 900 U.S. counties successfully leveraged Scytl’s technology.

  158. V.P. Elect Smith says:

  159. V.P. Elect Smith says:
  160. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    Verrrrrryy Iiieenterrresshtingk


    In English but with German subtitles, so don’t worry about the German…

  161. p.g.sharrow says:

    My Grandson says he has heard of the US raids on German Servers from his sources on the net which is mainly in hackers software and servers.equipment. He has worked for “Elections” and knows something about voting machines. Hummmm. He didn’t work this year…pg

  162. llanfar says:

    Has SDA gone dark?

  163. Steve C says:

    @llanfar – SDA is accessible in the UK as I type. Looks OK.

  164. Steve C says:

    And … If pg’s link at 4:08 am turns out to be good, wow! – It’s going to be the best show this year! That truly sounds like “Game Over” for the lowlife, and not a day too soon from what I’ve been reading.

  165. llanfar says:

    @Steve C still no access to (I forget who posted it) http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/11/15/69652/

  166. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    I get to SDA just fine ATM. (At the link from Ilanfar just above)

  167. cdquarles says:

    If you like digging into virology and some biochemistry, I have this: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.01.20119750v2.full.pdf to brighten my/your day ;p.

  168. Compu Gator says:

    It seems past time for a new “W.O.O.D.“, doesn’t it?

    I just noticed how productive you’ve been in adding new “Recent Posts“:
    • you’ve stomped even this most recent (still current?) “W.O.O.D.” down below the bottom of that right-sidebar list; and so
    • I have a lot of unexpected catching-up to do (sigh including missing all the the numerous 2020 election comments that’ve been posted over here, despite my following 2 other dedicated topics that you’d set aside more-or-less since Election Day!?).

  169. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    Yes, it is. I’d planned on it about 2 week ago. Then the non-election happened… and all hell is breaking loose (has broken loose?).

    Was going to do it last night, then the US Army vs Soros Server issue heated up.

    Was going to do it this morning and the Spouse had other ideas involving dog maintenance and kitchen status…

    Then about 11 AM I discovered Stefan Molyneux on peertube and realized I finally had a decent host to use for showcasing Peertube…

    Now? Now I’m holding a glass of water and trying to decide what’s next… recovery nap or push it?

  170. DoNoNorth says:

    I’m wondering if anyone here has visited Jo Nova’s blog in the last day or so and was able to pull up a fully functioning website showing current posts and associated comments? I’ve been unable to do so whether using IE, Chrome, or Firefox. Thanks.

  171. President Elect H.R. says:

    @DoNoNorth – I had that problem when I followed a link to a comment in one of the threads. I tried a few times.

    Then a day or so later, I followed a link to an article there, which just so happened to contain the comment that would not come up and just showed the header of the site, and everything came up fine.

    Sorry. I did not go back to try the link to the comment to see what would happen.

    Anyhow, that’s two of us experiencing that phenomenon.

  172. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    Going to the top level worked for me:
    https://joannenova.com.au/ but was a bit slow. Opening the newest page:
    Took a loooonng time, but got there. Long enough that I started to type this response, was going to say “spinning” and then it finally opened.

    My diagnosis is “slow due to load” either at the site or the overseas trunk is saturated with folks stuck at home watching videos ;-)

    The Reef is fine, the Forests are overgrown, and the River will keep flowing. Science, though is a disaster. What can we do?
    Help figure out how to get science working again for the people and the environment, instead of the crisis industry and bureaucrats.

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  173. Compu Gator says:

    Hmmm. Townsend‘s culinary equipment that targets the historically authentic reënactor market could be a great gift for someone who, possibly regrettably, has good reason to expect multiple days in a medical facility:
    Pocket Spice Box“:
    “Sea Salt [♡], Black Pepper, Cinnamon, Thyme, Cayenne. and of course, Nutmeg”:

    Conspicuous by their absence are garlic powder and dried onion flakes (the latter needs to be stirred in as soon as hot food arrives). Perhaps worse, I suppose that the metal box would set off a metal-detector at a medical facility’s security check-points.

    Not really accomodated are higher-volume vials of olive oil, to counteract the appetite-stifling dryness of steamed food, notably rice and legumes. Hey!  Olive oil is “heart healthful”,  right?

    Note ♡ : Establishment cardiologists, their like-minded nutritionists, and their subject food-service depts. treat salt like a vampire reputedly treats garlic. Or maybe even a crucifix. Better bring or smuggle in your own.

  174. DoNoNorth says:

    V.P. Elect Smith -Thanks. Yes – that slow speed problem was what Jo was trying to correct when she broke something on her blog. Slow speeds apparently due to a large increase in traffic since she started posting on our broken election. She’s been trying to fix it, but apparently hasn’t succeeded yet. Clicking on your home page link takes me to the same 11/13 post I’ve been getting.

    Using your link to that specific 11/17 post does take me to it, and I can now see all posts since 11/13. However all those posts either show no comments (none for the 11/17 post) or only a few. Very strange behavior.

  175. Steve C says:

    Re Jo, I just went there to check whether pg’s DistributedNews link had appeared there yet. Ctrl-F didn’t find it, so posted a comment. The highest number I saw before posting was 79, so I expected to be 80. No, it showed up as 67, among couple-of-day old comments. Went back to the top and it was showing “158 comments”. Something’s up, so good luck her (or her site maintainer) in finding it.
    Other than the weird comments, the rest of her site still works well, all pages showing OK, links working, etc.

    @llanfar – SDA still fine here. “Stand By and Step Up”, it says, over a storyette that brings a warm glow of schadenfreude :-D

  176. DoNoNorth says:

    Just went back to Jo Nova this morning and now is working correctly in both Firefox and Chrome. Able to see Tuesday Unthreaded and the other recent posts. These recent posts seem be showing the full comment threads as well..

  177. David A says:

    Has anyone found U.S. days on 2019 deaths for Sept and October vs 2020 for the same period?

    In the last week I have been banned from Gateway Pundit and Breitbart, despite always calm subject only comments. Also my notes on my android, containing dozen of links to conservative articles was disappeared.

    I curious if I made a list, and if the ever infiltrating left has put lowly me on a list.

  178. cdquarles says:

    @David A,
    You could search the CDC site, but I don’t think it would help you much. Key: US all cause mortality is about 0.9% of its true population per year (today, roughly 8500 a day). This has been the case for several decades (since the 1960s?, memory is not clear; but definitely by the 1980s, for I wrote a paper on an aspect of it). Specific causes move up and down the list each year, though the major groups are pretty consistent. For this year, some time in 2021, we will have a decent estimate (mine, about 3,000,000 out of 331,000,000 or so).

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  180. So, Joe Biden walks into a bar…and sees a hot young woman sitting alone at a table…. He sits down next to her and says, “So…do I come here often?”

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