Video Sharing Sites & Plug For Rumble

I was going along, minding my own business, happy to watch YouTube Videos. Then the Idiots In Charge at EewTube decided to start being Political Editor Commissar Of (pseudo)Truth. Suddenly I was prevented from watching what I wanted, and shunted off to Reeducation Camp.

Well, that just fueled the resentment and the rise of alternative video providers.

During the most recent election, this reached hysterical proportions (the censorship, that is). I took the time to find alternative sources for “All my usual presenters” and bookmark them. I now have a very nice bookmark folder named rNews (for right news) and in it a list of folders, one for each presenter / source. In each folder, I bookmark wherever I’ve found them, in order, with EewTube last on the list. Essentially, I’ll only hit a YouTube link if it is the only one in the folder.

My typical sort order is:

Bitchute – as it is the biggest / first alternative. Most folks with duplicate channels seem to have one here.

Odysee – as it seems to work well and also has a good number of participants.

Lbry – It’s a bit different in how it works and not as well populated, but still good.

Dlive – It has live broadcasts only, near as I can tell. As I usually watch ‘recorded time delay’ it isn’t high on my list of preference order; but some things are only offered live.

Then, just today, I’ve discovered Rumble. IIRC I looked at it once a year or three ago. Mostly “cute animal” videos so I wandered off somewhere else ;-) It seems that lately it’s gained traction in the Political & News worlds (though the editors picks under the hamburger hash top left is still ‘cute animal’ heavy).

As Bongino, X22, Dinesh D’Souza, Dan Nunes and more are there, I’ll be hanging out at Rumble more in the future. I don’t know yet, but I think it will sort into between Odysee and Lbry; or perhaps Bitchute and Odysee. We’ll see.

Now there are more video sharing sites than that. Periscope has a live TV theme with all sorts of fun stuff, but more of a “drop in and see what’s hot” style. All sorts of folks ‘on the street’ all over the world just streaming stuff from their phone or video gear. Less ‘directed’ though it does have category filters.

But this got me wondering what other sites are out there that I might not know about. Like D.Tube (that didn’t impress me…yet…) or others? Well, there’s a Wiki. Oddly, it does NOT list Rumble. Especially Odd when you consider that in a Nunes podcast they stated you just can not find Rumble in a Google Search. Almost like folks are trying to actively hide it… (Suitable grounds for exploring it right there…)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_hosting_services

A LOT of these are in languages other than English. So if you want a Persian or Mandarin video site, I’m not listing it here, hit the link. What I will do is go through the list, pull out those that look interesting to me, and put a note here. Later I’ll explore them and ‘see what I see’. I’m also not going to list the historical but now gone set. If curious about the Video Graveyard, again, hit the link. Note that it says the name is going to change so at some not-too-distant time you will need a different link.

Video hosting services are platforms which allow users to upload, share videos or live stream their own videos to the Internet. These can either be for the general public to watch, or particular users on a shared network. The most popular video hosting website is YouTube, with 1.8 billion logged-in users per month and the most extensive catalog of online videos. There are some countries in the world which place restrictions on YouTube, so some of these respective countries have their own regional video sharing websites.

I’d suggest that EewTube may be the biggest, but others are growing exponentially faster while they have actively been driving away audience.

Also, any link that leads to a China based or China related provider, even if in English, will not be covered by me. I have no need / interest in anything from China or China influenced. They have demonstrated their evil intent toward liberty and The West. So, for example, Bigo is a Singapore based English site. Singapore has no connection to the CCP, but I’m just not interested in sorting it out. I’m editing out any dedicated uninteresting (to me) language sites from the list:

Alexa global rankings as of 2 November 2019: 
Name	Language	Alexa traffic rank
[...]
Bigo	English	12,438
[...]
BitChute	Multilingual	2,663
Dailymotion	Multilingual	227
DLive	Multilingual	3,092
Godtube	English	33,656
[...]
LiveLeak	Multilingual	4,289
Metacafe	Multilingual	20,911
[...]
Periscope*	Multilingual	9,038
[...]
SchoolTube	English	129,817
Smashcast.tv*	Multilingual	116,483
[...]
Tune	English	6,989
Twitch*	Multilingual	41
[...]
Veoh	Multilingual	32,117
Vimeo	Multilingual	170
[...]
YouNow	Multilingual	11,605
YouTube	Multilingual	2

I’m also skipping the “Websites dedicated to adult and pornographic video sharing” list. Not enough time in life for that when real life exists.

Then there’s the category of “Larger websites which allow the hosting of videos”. Those are often “social media” sites with memberships and tracking and such, so I avoid them, too. They are:

Alexa global rankings as of 2 November 2019: 
Name	Language	Alexa traffic rank
Archive.org	Multilingual	173
Facebook	Multilingual	7
Flickr	Multilingual	700
Instagram	Multilingual	29
MySpace	Multilingual	3,589
Newgrounds	English	3,702
Photobucket	Multilingual	3,042
Rediff	Multilingual	483
Sina Weibo	Mandarin	16
Tencent Video/Tencent QQ	Mandarin	5
Twitter	Multilingual	35
VK	Multilingual	20
Wikimedia Commons	Multilingual	299

A few are quasi archival sites (Archive.org, Wiki commons) and / or dropbox type. Frankly, other than for dredging archives they have little use to me. So I ignore them, too. The “He’s Dead Jim” list is amusing to read. Including things like TroopTube for US military… but not much use.

So, back up at that list of providers that have interest to me, what have I not yet looked at? What I find most interesting about it is the things left off. Sure, I’ll have a bit of fun looking up what GodTube is, or finding out if YouNow is of any interest. But the fascinating thing, almost looking like Deliberate Bias, is the lack of well known effective alternatives. Where is Rumble? DTube? Odysee? LBRY?

Makes a fella go Hmmm…

So my overall first impression is that I’m not going to find much useful in the Wiki List. I’ve already found more and more useful on my own. For completion, they also have a comparison of video hosting services:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_hosting_services
Similarly limited and flawed.

A DDGo search on video hosting services turns up more / others.

https://kinsta.com/blog/video-hosting/

10 Best Video Hosting Platforms in 2020
YouTube
Dailymotion
Vimeo
Facebook
WordPress Video Hosting: Jetpack
Wistia
vooPlayer
Brightcove
SproutVideo
Uscreen

Vimeo I know as the place where Rock Stars like to host their official music videos, and it shows up in YouTube so quasi related. Faceplant is not of interest. So there’s a few to look at. Dailymotion, Wistia, vooPlayer, BrightCove, SproutVideo, Usscreen. Don’t know any of them.

Then “podbean” shows up as an advert for a podcasting site.

The next link down adds a few:
https://www.sharpeyeanimation.com/blog/15-best-video-hosting-services/

Here are the 15 best video hosting services available in 2020, ordered from lowest to highest in price (click to jump):

YouTube
Vimeo
Wistia
JWplayer
Swarmify
HippoVideo
VideoLan VLC
DaCast
SproutVideo
Uscreen
Brightcove
Muvi
Vzaar
Vidyard
Kaltura

Price? Tell me again why I care about price over content and usability? So, OK, a few repeats and some new ones.

At this point, I think I’m seeing diminishing returns to the search for more video providers. Is there really much chance that “Kaltura” or “HippoVideo” is going to be that bright shining star with lots of free and unfettered speech that isn’t already on some others?

So next I’m going to just wander through these. Looking up what they are and maybe visiting some of them. ONLY if I find one that “lights me up” with interest will I bother saying anything more about them. The rest of the day will just be “click, look, what?, done.” for most of them.

The surprising thing, of course, being just how many there are. Folks fleeing the Google Gulag have lots of landing pads…

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13 Responses to Video Sharing Sites & Plug For Rumble

  1. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    https://www.dailymotion.com/us

    Looks to be Euro-centric MSM run. Mildly interesting for a ‘drop in’ to what the MSM are thinking (perhaps with a European flare especially on the non-us tag sections); but that’s already 4-Walled everywhere anyway so what’s the point?…

    Has sort of a “Grocery Store Checkout Line People Rag” feel to it…

  2. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    I’d like to report on GodTube https://www.godtube.com/ , but it immediately put up a GIANT NAG ABOUT AD BLOCKERS and under that I could see an advert block trying to nose in for “8 powerful prayers”… probably from their SPAM machine.

    What I did briefly see was, as one might suspect, mostly “Wholesome” video stuff. Suitable for children and all that. A ‘reload” got a second longer look. Lots of music videos, kids stuff, some comedy including what looked like old Carol Burnette. Some prayer looking image.

    So, OK, no reason for me to unblock ads nor revisit. Got it.

    From the far other side: https://www.liveleak.com/

    Has what looks like mostly ‘man on the street’ cell phone captures of splat events. Not really much of interest to me. The categories / search function is primitive. MIGHT have some good stuff during actual big events, but mostly just looks like “kick in the butt and cop caught ya” stuff.

    Veoh looks like an avoid:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veoh

    Included with recent installations of Veoh is a program called OpenCandy, which some security programs, including Microsoft Security Essentials, classify as adware. It also installs Delta Search, setting all the user’s browsers to use an ad and tracking-loaded search engine without prompting for user confirmation.

    So “just say no” becomes “Just shout HELL NO!” and avoid.

    Then YouNow looks entirely aimed at kids vanity:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouNow

    The majority of the users of YouNow are under 24 years old. Many users perform music or dance, others talk or make jokes. There was some media attention in 2015 on a number of users who film themselves sleeping. A tag-based topic system enables viewers to browse content of their choice, while trending streams enable users to locate more popular webcasters.

    Maybe they ought to rename it ‘sniffer Joe’ channel… Watching kids sleep, eh?

    That completes the Wiki based set. Next comment will be after some more exploring, but the lesser known alternatives are not looking all that interesting so far.

  3. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    More non-interesting…
    https://wistia.com/

    Let your videos do the work
    Video marketing software that makes it easy to find, engage, and grow your audience.

    Exactly what I’m trying to avoid…

    https://sourceforge.net/software/product/Spotlightr/

    There was a name change to Spotlightr from vooPlayer…

    About Spotlightr
    Video Hosting Suite For Businesses, Educators, Coaches & Marketers. Spotlightr (formerly vooPlayer). All growing enterprises run into the same video hosting problems. Distracting ads, unsecured videos, limited player customization, lack of important marketing features or expensive video hosting fees. The good news? Spotlightr solves them all. You can host your videos on our rock-solid, cloud-based servers — or use ANY link from YouTube, Vimeo, AWS, Facebook and more.

    So yeah, uh, no.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brightcove

    Seems to be MSM / Biz oriented.

    In December 2005 Brightcove partnered with Reuters to create a program to syndicate customized news video players.

    In 2006, Brightcove completed Internet TV partnership deals with a number of large media companies including The New York Times Company (NYTimes.com and About.com), Discovery Communications (Discovery Channel, Travel Channel), and Sony BMG among others.

    In 2007, Brightcove capitalized on a trend of magazine and newspaper publishers expanding into online video by signing deals with print media companies including Time Inc., TV Guide, and Washingtonpost.Newsweek Interactive.

    Since then, a number of television and cable media companies have begun to use Brightcove as an alternate, non-exclusive distribution channel for their video content.

    Big media I don’t need more of…

    The Sproutvideo is another of those B2B things

    https://sproutvideo.com/

    Enterprise for Everyone.
    The best live and on-demand video hosting platform for business.

    When I’ve got a $Billion product launch to sream,sure. Finding censored voices not so much…

    Uscreeen similarly, but for Pay Per View self-selling

    https://www.uscreen.tv/

    Sell Videos Online
    World’s leading video monetization platform

    OK, another break then the last batch.

    I’m getting the impression that the set I’d already selected is the best there is,though…

  4. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    JWplayer is software for hosting
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JW_Player

    JW Player is a New York based company that has developed a video player software of the same name. The player, for embedding videos onto web pages, is used by news, video-hosting companies and for self-hosted web videos. The company has also created the video management software “JW Platform”, formerly known as “Bits On The Run”.

    Another video for biz co: https://swarmify.com/

    Unlimited Video CDN
    Slow video is costing you customers.
    Make more sales, reduce bounce rates, and keep visitors focused on your brand. The world’s fastest video hosting ensures instant start and buffer-proof playback. Unlimited bandwidth, encoding, and storage.

    And another one: https://www.hippovideo.io/

    A video engagement platform that helps you
    connect with your prospects and lifts your sales,
    marketing, and support efforts.

    Looks like the rest of them are similar. Kaltura is interesting as a company
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaltura

    Kaltura is a New York-based software company founded in 2006. Kaltura operates in four major markets: Cloud TV (that is, OTT) for operators and media companies, online video platform (OVP) offered mostly to media companies and brands looking to distribute content or monetize it, Education Video Platform (EdVP) offered to educational institutions who are increasingly relying on video for teaching and learning, and Enterprise Video Platform (EVP) offered to enterprises who use video for collaboration, communications and marketing.

    Kaltura offers a broad video platform as a service, as well as turnkey video based SaaS solutions across all these markets. Kaltura is the initiator and backer of an open-source video-management project.

    So again a video to companies (and schools…) as a service or software.

    But not end user video…

    So, with that, I’m done with the lists I turned up on a first pass search.

    I’m also convinced that the odds of any really good end user video service having been missed is quite low. So at this point, I’m very comfortable with my original list of providers, in that order. 5 on demand, one live, then if all else fails YouTube.

    And now I’m done with the search / survey. I’ve already checked my favored presenters for other providers. Only thing left is to go through the YouTube on Roku and see if there’s any video pops up there where I’ve not yet noted down the channel.

    That will not show up in any article / comments. Just additions to my bookmarks for later use.

    Hopefully this little “dig here” has been helpful for folks looking for alternatives to EewTube ;-)

  5. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    Oh, and forgot to mention newtube. I did find Tony Heller there, but it looks a bit thin on total content so far. OTOH, there’s stuff there you can’t find elsewhere. This one has some F-bombs in it and also has “violence” in that some Antifa try mobbing the wrong folks… But as an example of “free speech” it is pretty much the definition of not PC; yet is still up.

    https://newtube.app/user/Fragalicious/sEJCUUZ

    So NewTube likely ought to be on my list of places to explore…

    Oddly, web searching “newtube” turns up references to some fictional thing in games? So not sure what the whole deal is.

    Equally oddly, in searching around, I ran into a site that claims to exist to bypass censorship:
    https://www.brandnewtube.com/

    Has top level index images for Piers Corbyn, Dave Chappelle and more. Yet clicking on any of them leave me with a wait-spin. Bogus? Or just swamped the servers with EewTube refugies? ;-)

    UPDATE:

    Did get a video to play, so I guess it’s a load issue.

  6. philjourdan says:

    Wiki is just another name for he clowns trying to limit free speech. I question even their technical pages – Lysenkoism.

  7. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    @phil:

    As each Wiki page is independently edited by a herd, it’s sporadic as to being trash or useful. I read each page and decide if it is useful, or not, and only quote bits that I can see some utility in using.

    Pages about a given product are typically edited by the software company / maker. So you must filter for Sellers Puff, but the actual product design features and target market segment are typically correct (if a bit spin positive…) That makes them useful when it says things like “For Marketing departments to” FOO… and I know I don’t need to go further. (When it says “perfect for everything” you know it’s bogus and move on.)

  8. Philip Mulholland says:

    Under the archive options have a look at http://www.yout.com as a way of saving YouTube videos as MP4 (Video) files to your PC.

  9. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    Oh, and don’t forget Brighteon (who started life with another name, then changed it, and that doesn’t work well with my memory filing system so I’ve not remembered it well since…)

    The Wiki says it’s going to be deleted, so just preserving it here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighteon

    Brighteon
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Jump to navigationJump to search
    This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia’s deletion policy.

    Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article’s deletion discussion page.
    Feel free to improve the article, but this notice must not be removed until the discussion is closed, and the article must not be blanked. For more information, particularly on merging or moving the article during the discussion, read the guide to deletion.
    Find sources: “Brighteon” – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR

    Brighteon is an internet information hosting service which allow users to post content, including videos, comments, descriptions, and other materials.[1] It was started by Natural News founder Mike Adams.[2] The founder’s association with conspiracy theories has led to links to the site being banned by FaceBook.[3][4]

    References
    Ishmael, Aiyana (May 18, 2020). “‘Plandemic’ recirculates after platforms say they took it down: The COVID-19 conspiracy theory documentary finds a home on lesser-known video hosting sites”. Poynter Institute.
    Parker, Tom (May 15, 2020). “YouTube alternatives that are more creator and free-speech friendly”. Reclaim The Net.
    Heilweil, Rebecca (June 25, 2020). “Facebook’s war against one of the internet’s worst conspiracy sites: Facebook has banned this conspiracy site twice. But its content can still sneak back on”. Vox.
    Bulleri, Fabrizio (May 22, 2020). “Facebook bans users from linking to YouTube alternative Brighteon after it hosted Judy Mikovits Plandemic doc”. Reclaim The Net.

    They look like they have a lot of fun stuff:

    https://www.brighteon.com/

    Hey, “banned by Facebook” and you can’t even post links to them? Wow! That’s real street cred right there! Must have a whole lot of truthing going on…

    I’ve not searched it (yet) for my favorite feeds… but maybe after b’fast ;-)

    And more coffee ;-0

    In addition to controversial stuff, I ran into this “Shepherd’s Pie” recipe. Really, it uses beef so isn’t really Shepherd’s, but… some added spicing looks interesting. (Hey, Black Guy with bit ‘o Southern accent, spices have to be good!)

    https://www.brighteon.com/eda849ca-e001-4417-9c46-7dcf5185f016

  10. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    Hey, found Sefan Molyneux there!

    https://www.brighteon.com/channels/freedomain

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  12. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    An easy way to find “right leaning news sources”?

    https://transparency.tube/

    Wait for it to draw all the bubbles. Go to the categories that look like they are denigrating anything not left. Hover your mouse over the bubbles and pick out the names / URLs…

    Easy peasy…

    I was surprised to fine Black Pigeon Speaks under “White Identitarian”. Never seemed that way to me. Then Again, Tim Pool was classed as “right wing” (and complains about it in a recent video…) so just realize the sort name is biased.

    Count Dankula is under Libertarian. Sort of makes sense (but really, he’s a comedian).

    World Video Bible School is under “conspiracy”… it’s that kind of stuff which is why I’m saying look under ALL the “dissing and tossing mud” labels. Even if you think you have zero interest in them (as I have zero in “conspiracy” … but like the idea of a Video Bible School site…)

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