Does Vaccine Sterility Issue Have Basis?

When I first set out to write this, my idea was to debunk the “Vaccines to cause sterilization” myth. Then I ran into evidence that medical science was busy working on it. OK… but maybe it’s just for that “yet another kind of personal choice birth control market”…

Then things took a left turn…

HCG Found in WHO Tetanus Vaccine in Kenya Raises Concern in the Developing World
John W. Oller1, Christopher A. Shaw2,3, Lucija Tomljenovic2,3, Stephen K. Karanja4, Wahome Ngare4, Felicia M. Clement5, Jamie Ryan Pillette5
1 Communicative Disorders, University of Louisiana, Lafayette, USA.
2 Ophthalmology and Visual Sciences, Graduate Program in Experimental Medicine, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada.
3 Neural Dynamics Research Group, Vancouver, Canada.
4 Kenya Catholic Doctors Association, Nairobi, Kenya.
5 University of Louisiana, Lafayette, USA.

In 1993, WHO announced a “birth-control vaccine” for “family planning”. Published research shows that by 1976 WHO researchers had conjugated tetanus toxoid (TT) with human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) producing a “birth-control” vaccine. Conjugating TT with hCG causes pregnancy hormones to be attacked by the immune system. Expected results are abortions in females already pregnant and/or infertility in recipients not yet impregnated. Repeated inoculations prolong infertility. Currently WHO researchers are working on more potent anti-fertility vaccines using recombinant DNA. WHO publications show a long-range purpose to reduce population growth in unstable “less developed countries”. By November 1993 Catholic publications appeared saying an abortifacient vaccine was being used as a tetanus prophylactic. In November 2014, the Catholic Church asserted that such a program was underway in Kenya. Three independent Nairobi accredited biochemistry laboratories tested samples from vials of the WHO tetanus vaccine being used in March 2014 and found hCG where none should be present. In October 2014, 6 additional vials were obtained by Catholic doctors and were tested in 6 accredited laboratories. Again, hCG was found in half the samples. Subsequently, Nairobi’s AgriQ Quest laboratory, in two sets of analyses, again found hCG in the same vaccine vials that tested positive earlier but found no hCG in 52 samples alleged by the WHO to be vials of the vaccine used in the Kenya campaign 40 with the same identifying batch numbers as the vials that tested positive for hCG. Given that hCG was found in at least half the WHO vaccine samples known by the doctors involved in administering the vaccines to have been used in Kenya, our opinion is that the Kenya “anti-tetanus” campaign was reasonably called into question by the Kenya Catholic Doctors Association as a front for population growth reduction.

Gee, sure looks like a clandestine effort at involuntary birth control.

Contemporaneous with the WHO’s initiation of research to develop anti- fertility vaccines, under the leadership of Henry Kissinger a classified report was being compiled on the basis of population growth studies predating it by several decades. The Kissinger Report, also known as the US National Security Study Memorandum 200, explained the geo-political and economic reasons for reducing population growth, especially in “less developed countries” (LDCs), to near zero. That report became official US policy under President Gerald Ford in 1975 and explicitly dealt with “effective family planning programs” for the purpose of “reducing fertility” in order to protect the interests of the industrialized nations, especially the US, in imported mineral resources (see p. 50 in [69] [70] ). Although the whole plan was initially withheld from the public, it was declassified in stages between 1980 and 1989. In the meantime, while that document was on its way to becoming official “policy”, the WHO research program developing “birth-control” vaccines was initiated about 1972 and presented publicly in 1976, just one year after the Kissinger Report was adopted as official policy.

Looks like “All the right people” are involved…

The Kissinger Report also blamed population growth for pollution far in advance of the 2009 issue of the WHO Bulletin, where Bryant et al. predicted a “significant increase of greenhouse gas emissions” (p. 852). That WHO publication estimated a rise in global population from around 6.8 billion people in 2009 to 9.2 billion by 2050. Extending that WHO argument, Bill Gates in 2010 expressed the hope that vaccines along with “family planning” could bring population growth to nearer to zero. Whereas Bryant et al. described anti-fertility measures as “voluntary family planning services”, they acknowledged that such WHO “services” had been reported as deceiving the persons “served” (pp. 852-853, 855) with “sterilization procedures being applied without full consent of the patient” [our italics] (p. 852). Similarly, a 1992 study entitled Fertility Regulating Vaccines published by the UN and WHO Program of Research Training in Human Reproduction, reported “cases of abuse in family planning programs” dating from the 1970s including:incentives [our italics]∙∙∙ [Such as] women being sterilized without their knowledge∙∙∙ being enrolled in trials of oral contraceptives or injectables without∙∙∙ consent∙∙∙ [and] not [being] informed of possible side-effects of∙∙∙ the intrauterine device (IUD). (p. 13 in [72] )

And all the right “safeguards and morals” removed.

Seems like a pattern to me. So what would be an ideal time to do a global jab? How about when everyone is getting the Bum’s Rush into a vaccine globally in just a few months (so not enough time to notice any sterility issues…)

Then, they were still “at it” recently:

2) Examining the published scientific researchA search on the Web of Science (and PubMed) for “tetanus toxoid AND beta hCG” led to publications by WHO researchers spearheaded by G. P. Talwar [4] – [24] . After his first report appeared in 1976 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the number of citations of the stream of publications emanating from that WHO research program would begin to grow exponentially. By August 5, 2016, the Web of Science database already pointed to 150 research publications citing the 1976 report while subsequent papers have now been cited many thousands of times. Figure 1 shows citations through 2015 of just one of the follow up papers by Talwar et al., this one from 1994 titled, “A vaccine that prevents pregnancy in women”. It also appeared in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and by January 9, 2016, according to the Web of Science, had already been cited 2538 times. We focus attention next on findings from a forensic journalism methodology laying out the chronology connecting the WHO anti-fertility research agenda to the 2013-2015 vaccination campaign in Kenya.

Which campaign used multiple injections over time, as needed for the sterility vaccine, but not in accord with the normal for Tetanus.

I’d also speculate you don’t do all that work and go to all that effort and then just not do anything with it. And what better “double blind” study than having everyone not know you were doing it at all?

while the WHO was being conceptualized and becoming the first world-wide subordinate agency under the auspices of the UN, “Planned Parenthood”, headed up by Bill Gates’s father, was promoting the idea that population growth, unless halted or reduced by governmental intervention, would inevitably lead to world-wide famine, disease, the destabilization of governments, and at least one more world war.In 1961, the US Agency for International Development (USAID) joined with the UN and the WHO in population studies culminating in The Kissinger Report first promulgated as an official classified document to government officials in 1974. In the meantime, moving to the second row in Figure 2, WHO researchers led by Talwar were linking TT to βhCG and testing the first WHO contraceptive vaccine on humans. Then, the years 1993, 1994, and 1995, were marked by news reports of WHO anti-fertility vaccination campaigns in LDCs-specifically, Mexico, Nicaragua and the Philippines [42] [43] [78] [79] [80] , along with a forestalled campaign in Kenya in 1995 [3] ?all of which were represented to the public in those countries, and to the vaccinated females of child-bearing age, as part of the WHO campaign to “eliminate maternal and neonatal tetanus”

Sure sounds like “government intervention” to me.

Now the big question I’d have, “Is there any indication of reduced births in those counties in those times?”

Has a rather hard to read graph, but there IS a big percentage drop in about the 80s to 90s. Cause? Hard to say.

Nicaragua Births

Nicaragua Births

Was that dip due to war, famine, folks just fighting with their spouses, something the UN did… I don’t know what was happening there, then. All I can say is it looks a bit suspicious.

during pregnancy and the second dose at least 4 weeks later” ( [37] , p. 200). But contrary to all of the published research on TT inoculations, the WHO Kenya campaign spaced 5 doses of “TT” vaccine at 6 month intervals contravening, as illustrated in Figure 3, the repeatedly published schedule for TT. However, the Kenya schedule was identical to the one published for the WHO birth-control conjugate of TT linked to βhCG [6] [10] [26] [50] [83] . The official schedule of TT doses and the intervals between them in Table 1 were published in The Lancet in 2007 for girls and women of child-bearing age and for neonates ( [35] , p. 1951) and was unchanged from the WHO schedule published in 1993 in the document titled, The Immunological Basis for Immunization Series, Module 3: Tetanus, and as copied in the top half of Figure 3 [84] .

If it walks like a Duck and talks like a Duck…

Interestingly, the dosing schedule for the “tetanus” campaign in Kenya 2013-2015 was exactly the one set for the WHO birth-control conjugate containing TT/βhCG [2] [9] [36] .

And, of course, anyone who did turn up with a claim of infertility, it could just be blamed on the Chinese Wuhan Covid Virus and they could claim you must have had it prior to the vaccination and were an asymptomatic case.

Moreover, the fact that no males, only females of child-bearing age, were vaccinated in the WHO Kenya campaign seems to imply that tetanospasmin produced by Clostridium tetani cannot infect post-birth males of any age, or females outside the targeted range of 12 to 49 years. The defense that the WHO intended only to target “maternal and neonatal tetanus” seems odd in view of the fact that males are about as likely as females to be exposed to the bacterium which is found in the soil everywhere there are animals. The notion that males, and females outside the child-bearing age range, are less susceptible to cuts, scrapes, and other injuries that might introduce a tetanus bacterium is not credible.

OTOH, if you are out to eliminate “maternal and neonatal tetanus” inducing sterility will get you there…

There’s more but I’ve quoted too much all ready.

What’s clear is they have intent, they have a research program, they are funding it more with more papers published recently, the funders have no problem with “Government intervention” and lack of consent.

What’s murky but sure looks like it is that they did something “not quite right” in those “tetanus” trials and that tetanus is exactly the agent in the combined infertility vaccination.

What’s entirely speculative is that they might want to “slip a Micky” into the Chinese Wuhan Covid vaccines clandestinely. Well, no, we know they “want to”, I guess really the speculative bit is “will they?”.

At the October 2014 round of WHO vaccinations (dose 3 for participating women shown as event 15 in Figure 2), the KCDA obtained six additional vials of the WHO “tetanus” vaccine and apportioned carefully drawn samples (aliquots) for distribution to 5 different laboratories for ELISA testing with results as shown in Table 3. All but one of the tests showed the presence of βhCG in 3 the 6 samples tested (KA, KB, and KC). Even the PathCare Laboratory, which used less sensitive ELISA kits, ones capable only of measuring international units per liter, IU/L, rather than the more sensitive ELISA kits measuring thousandths of an international unit per milliliter, mIU/ml, found quantities of βhCG in two of the samples (KB and KC) that were well above the expected zero.

My conclusion is that it’s a Very Bad Idea to trust the UN to inject you with stuff.

Probably not much better to let your National Government do it.

I’d also be reluctant to take a vaccine that was being rushed out for a global mass shooting up party. It’s too good a cover story for the crowd that wants to use deception to get it done. Wait until folks have done some (many…) random lab tests.

Furthermore, given that “women of child bearing age” have very very low risks of bad outcomes from getting the disease, why vaccinate anyway?

Then, finally, if all that isn’t enough, I’d suggest getting a Covid test first, and if it is positive, just say “I’ve had it, don’t need the jab”.

I’m just not seeing the need for a massive global vaccination campaign.

I’d suggest being very watchful for any Covid vaccine that takes multiple rounds, spaced out, or where a different batch is used for men and women.

I’d also love to see a bunch of random vials run through an ELISA round every few weeks. Simply because their is cause to suspect, and “trust but verify” comes to mind. Especially any MDs specializing in fertility and obstetrics might want to do a little side work looking at what’s in the vaccines.

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31 Responses to Does Vaccine Sterility Issue Have Basis?

  1. philjourdan says:

    Children of Men.

    And then Snowpiercer.

    The second was as hokey as the first. BUT, I would not put it past them. They are bound and determined to eradicate man (at least bring the population down to what it was 200 years ago).

    Given the levels of desperation they just went to in order to steal an election, I would believe it. But they got one thing working against them (2 if you count the truth). Nature is tenacious! Just look at the life that exists in the Atacama desert. Primitive and primordial, but it does. Nature has a way to beat back the most diabolical of Man’s plans.

  2. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    Yeah, if nothing else we may just end up handing the planet to the Christian Scientists ;-)

    Any other religion that holds medical intervention is against God’s Will?

    I know the Catholics are tepidly against contraception, in theory.

    I’d be especially worried in the 3rd World Countries as they seem to be the primary target. OTOH, the “global warming” mantra (that we saw in one line above) would lean toward eliminating more 1st Worlders to get more bang for the baby buck…

    I just hope they don’t do something really really stupid on a mass basis. Like, oh, selecting strongly for folks with weak immune systems as they remain fertile, and then condemning future generations to disease problems forever…

  3. philjourdan says:

    3rd world is the target! That is evident. And while the official tenet of the Catholic Church is against it, you got a bunch of liberals (including the current faux pope) that {wink wink} at it. That cretin even {wink wink} at selling baby parts! So forget the Church as a whole. Just the devout faithful. But that does not matter since it is not being marketed as a BC vaccine.

    So only the Anti-Vaccers will propagate (and the ruling class since they are in on it, but then they do not propagate, they do mitosis).

    But the 2 titles above are not a denial of their intentions, it is the fruition of their intentions and the inevitable outcome and rebirth.

  4. ossqss says:

    Just remember the whole UN agenda 21/30, or whatever now if anyone actually read the documents in totality (I did), sustainability modeling ultimately is based upon population modeling.

    Yep, who gets whacked?

    Think about that in our current times.

  5. President Elect H.R. says:

    @Ossqss – “They” need to account for the fact that at least one or two of those who are supposed to remain get whacked by me before I get taken out. I’m not the only one with that plan. Already made peace with the Mrs. over that. Others have, too.

    Do the attrition math and the “Sustainable” crowd will find that it doesn’t add up at 2 or 3 to 1.

    “They” think we will just be taking out their minions. “They” should perhaps think again. It’s unsustainable, particularly if you start at the top. What? Are we complete dummies? Why would I take out my neighbor when I could take out a higher value target if I’m going to make a sacrifice? The PTB haven’t thought this through.

    And don’t forget, nobody expects the Spanish inquisition. 😜
    I’ve got 20 years left, absolute max. Maybe only 15 or 10. What’s the big deal to give up a few years
    if my kid, who has 40 or 50 years left, lives in freedom and prosperity?

    I am not the only one who thinks this way. The GEBs pulled the trigger a decade too soon. They will regret it. Shoulda waited.

  6. E.M.Smith says:

    @P.E. H.R.:

    The problem with that is that “they” take out the grand-kids before they are born, without you knowing (via the hypothetical clandestine vaccine progeam).

    Then how do you get to their villa on the private island with 100 security guards? How do you even know who and in what country? We have maybe 3 out of hundreds of names.

  7. President Elect H.R. says:

    @E.M. – I can only deal with what comes to my door. However, I think there are some “rough men” who can make life *ahem* uncomfortable for the GEBs.

  8. Steve C says:

    There was that case a couple or three years ago when the Italian government sacked their WHO-approved ‘experts’ and appointed their own people to investigate the MMR vaccine. I can’t remember the exact details, but IIRC they found nothing in it which would combat measles, mumps or rubella, but plenty of mercury- and aluminium-containing adjuvants, extracts from dead babies and goats and all sorts of vileness you wouldn’t ever want to put into yourself, never mind your kids.

    I think the vax industry trades far too much on the easily-understood Jenner cowpox-vaxing-against-smallpox story to explain itself to the public. You can see how that might have happened. What they don’t mention is that the modern vax is a very different brew from Jenner’s, with numerous adjuvants having the potential to do all sorts of damage. And when, like the Italians, you find nothing in the vax to actually do the damn job it’s supposed to be doing, you can see why. Colour me cynical.

  9. There’s a site called that does forecasting. I’m on a phone right now and can’t find ther forecasts in their site (or it’s been pulled) but their 2025 forecast for the US showed the population at 100 million vs 327 million they showed for 2017. Here’s a link to a screenshot:

    Maybe vaccines were part of their forecast.

  10. Tom says:

    As the location of the most susceptible to pandemic spread, the highest population concentrations of the United States coastal cities both East and West, let the culling—scratch that—inoculations begin there. Recent arrivals from outside the country, those without the benefit of comprehensive medical care should also be escorted to the front of the line. It’s for their own good, of course.

  11. llanfar says:

    @President-Elect Pinroot that screenshot is TERRIBLE! I sincerely hope Trump pulls us out of the GEB clutches. Willing and somewhat able to join the old folks militia (right hand back in business to shoot in a week, though reloading will be problematic).

  12. YMMV says:

    @President-Elect Pinroot that screenshot is TERRIBLE!
    The world figures are down only a bit, so what do they figure? That the US fought a world war and lost? What other countries had big losses in their tables? China? Russia? Iran? North Korea? Or maybe it was a civil war they were predicting?

  13. The True Nolan says:

    @ PE Pinroot The screenshot you link is actually a more clear representation than what they have now:
    You have to toggle back and forth between 2017 and 2025, but the story is still the same; US population down to 99 million, massive drop in GNP and standard of living. If you go to the link I have above, scroll to the bottom for an explanation of their thinking. (By the way, the rest of their site is worth a look. LOTS of good info re military matters. My suspicion is that they have sources of information that are, uh, unavailable to you and me.)

  14. I went through the list at (I liked the old format better than the newer one they’re using), the US had about the worst losses, but the UK and Germany had significant losses, along with other EU countries. If you read the disclaimer at the bottom, they point out that countries that embrace “multiculturalism and extreme liberalism are unable to deal with any real hardship.” So that might be the reason that first world nations show the most decline. I guess we’ll know in about four years just how right they really are.

  15. The True Nolan says:

    Hey PE Pinroot! “I guess we’ll know in about four years just how right they really are.”

    Well, if they ARE right, then there is a 70% chance that each of us WON’T know anything.

    I would not be surprised to see a major drop in population for any number of reasons, but I just am unable to bring myself to think a 70% drop is likely. I realize that personal incredulity is not a good foundation for logical decisions. As for whether some of The Powers That Be would really like for that sort of die off to happen, they have said so more than once.

  16. President Elect H.R. says:

    It’s not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
    The Law of Unintended Consequences pretty much guarantees that the wrong 99 million are left and the GEBs will wind up communicating with two tin cans and a very long string.

    Oh sure, they’ll have electricity… until their generator craps out and they find out all the Mr. Fixit type people were eliminated, never mind that all the refinery workers are pushing up daisies and they can’t get more fuel for the 2,000 gallon emergency fuel supply they thought they were smart enough to stash on the grounds of their estate.


  17. jeremyp99 says:

    Mr. Smith – this article from the excellent online rag Quillette may be of interest, WRT to the “over population” problem. The opposite will be the real problem, and is on the way. BTW, what you describe above is no surprise to me. I am not an anti-vaxxcer, clearly they can be remarkable life savers. But I am most definitely anti BAD vaccines.

    Read on.

  18. V.P. Elect Smith says:


    Interesting article. Some of the comments too.

    There are some things in it that are a bit of a stretch. Like the angst over too small a population just because we might not hit 10 Billion. That, and the ascribing ideas JUST to population growth.

    Ideas come from a population that looks for them AND has the ability to share them. Capitalism in a modestly wealthy country, of any size, does just that. (Viz. Israel and the comments about it). Make it a detriment to an individual to attempt change, or tie them to labor that drains them of energy and their ideas do not spread, and often are not even made (why come up with an idea if you KNOW someone else will take the benefit, or worse, not one person will care or use it?) Look at the relative “ideas per year” embodied in patents. China was very low under Communism and Mao, during the last 20 years one of the largest under the Post Mao 3rd Way Socialism (Market Socialism or Lang Type Socialism), but the current Emperor Of China wants more Mao like policies – I’d predict a lessening of ideas as that sets in. In all that time the population of China was quite large.

    I contend it is a simplification to say “size matters”. Modernity matters a lot too. When you are digging dirt every day just to make it to the next, not much time to ponder improved plant genetics or the benefits of a major dam project requiring the work of thousands. Once a society has “enough” for there to be significant leisure time, then more “thought work” can be done, and more of it applied. The difference between lower population 1800s Britain and India. That moment can be reached as soon as ANY part of the population is “rich enough”. The vilified “Income Disparity” is why Capitalism can improve the lot of even dirt pour countries, it lifts some people above the dirt poor point rapidly, then their creative energies can lift the rest.

    I’d also point out the dire predictions of humanity going “POOF!” in an orgy of sex without children is as unlikely as the Population Bomb scenario. Fundamental math. Knock out the 10% or even 70% of the population that, for whatever reason, doesn’t want kids. (The bother, the work, the cost, Climate Paranoia, whatever…) You are left with a population not so inclined, and it will then be enriched in just those folks who do want children. You see this in places where the Muslim population starts out small, and in just a few generations swamps the others. Muslim culture exploits the “war of the womb” and has a highly positive view of more kids.

    Then there is THE one thing that correlates most with low fecundity rates:

    Women’s education level negatively correlates with birth rates. Universal advanced education kills your population growth and eventually your population. It is almost impossible to “have it all” as it drives you to the wall trying to do so much. So a woman who is in college until she is 25 and then spends 5 years getting established in her chosen career, has just blown past her biological clock “best by date”. Compare a girl in a village in Backwater Nowhere who starts having kids at 16 and where her major source of self worth is raising children well. Big families and lots of population growth. You see this in Muslim countries today (where they often actively discourage women from education).

    My own family is a good example of that effect. Mum from a family of 9 and zero college ( I think she didn’t finish high school) where her parents were “uneducated” in terms of school years. Dad from a family of 13 and he also didn’t finish high school (one month short, enlisted for W.W.II). His parents “uneducated” (Amish mom was educated in running a house and kids via apprentice to her mom…) Me? Part of their 4 children. My family with both spouse and me “college educated”? 2 kids. So far, it looks like we’re getting 2 grandkids (so an average of 1:1 kids to grandkids). That’s below replacement rate.

    Why does this prevent humanity collapsing to zero? Simple. At some point you have an economic decline such that you can no longer send everyone off to college for 4+2 or 4+2+2 of post doc. In fact, at some level of calamity, even High School becomes optional. Once that happens, we’re back at Daisy On The Farm eyeing that strong guy over there…

    The logistics curve, the S shaped curve, is what is most likely. I’d speculate that near the top of the S you end up with the absolutely normal tendency of populations to oscillate. This is well studied and well established. You get a “boom and bust” cycle but not an extirpation. The “Doom In Our Times!” folks always do a direct linear (or for the really paranoid, exponential) projection into the future. The reality is much more often complex patterns with oscillators and rollers and more. (That “Game Of Life” behaviour I mentioned in the tech thread on climate models: )

    So I’m not particularly interested in either the Population Bomb or the Population Bust scenarios as being predictive of our real future. IMHO they are both wrong in the same way. Simple projection forward of a math model. (Kind of like Climate Theory too…). Human actions are far more variable than that; and the math of patterns in the Game Of Life would suggest strongly that even simple human actions ought to generate very complex patterns in the real world.)

    OTOH, it is fun to watch how people react to them. How rewards are handed out for simplistic ideas in a world of far greater ignorance of reality. How known knowns (like the impact of female education level on fecundity) are ignored. And, in some ways my favorite: How the realities of math are often ignored in favor of Word Salads. But they do make me think and that’s usually a pleasant thing. Then there are the “new discoveries”, like finding out a Nobel was handed out for the idea that “more people have more ideas”…

    (One of my early “experiences” in my Econ education was to realize that in the Social Sciences & Econ, the goal was not to simplify an expression of an idea to make it more attainable; rather rewards are handed out for the most complicated and obscure window dressing arrayed about a simple and obvious idea… Once I worked that out, I got better grades ;-) So nice to see that pattern still holds. Unfortunately, my basic nature is ruled by “As simple as possible and no simpler”, so I realized I would not make it as a Ph.D. Econ. Like another Nobel idea “Satisficing”. This was considered a Great Leap Forward! In short: “People do not optimize, they go for ‘good enough’ and stop”. Uh, ya think? NOBODY shops every single grocery store to find the optimum price on a can of coffee. They find “good enough” and buy it. But Econ to that point was built on ‘optimizing’ consumption (and price optimizing at that), so correcting that blunder was a Nobel. Go figure… AND got a movie “Beautiful Mind”…)

  19. cdquarles says:

    Population bust: More than possible: 1. Endless stupid wars, 2. You can’t buy or sell without the ‘mark of the beast’. That would cause major issues in big cities. Folk in ‘flyover country’ likely would survive well enough. Will it be as bad as said? I don’t know; but I do take “Revelation” seriously. Now if Yeshua showed up today …, we’d have 7 years to see, for those left behind ;p.

  20. cdquarles says:

    Oh, that observation is one that the ‘psychological’, aka Austrian school noticed about 100 years ago.

  21. jeremyp99 says:

    Mr. S – printing your response off to chew over, Struggle with reading large blocks of print on screens these days. Will get back. I was intrigued and not unsurprised, I have to say. “Peak” population has been forecast a few times in recent years.

  22. V.P. Elect Smith says:


    Just a note: I discovered, and fixed, the typo of “World Salad” that was really “Word Salad”… so correct that in your print out if you want it to make more sense ;-)

    (Having my own occasional issue with proof reading blocks of text on a screen ;-)

  23. jim2 says:

    I dunno. I could see where “World Salad” could gain traction.

  24. jeremyp99 says:

    Mr. Smith, Yes, I’d agree with much of your analysis, but would add that a number of agencies in the past 20 years or so have stated that they think we are nearing a population peak. And certainly we are in the West experiencing a massive collapse in both birth rates and fertility (esp. male sperm counts). Add to that that we can pretty much feed everyone, another panic, as per climate change, is not what we want.

    Mind you, part of me thinks we are heralding in a new Dark Age anyway,

  25. V.P. Elect Smith says:


    Does feel like a new Dark Age on the winds…

    Population in “advanced nations:” WILL decline, for a while. Eventually it will start growing again, or they will be over run by people who do have growing populations (Currently Muslims and 3rd World nations in poverty).

    Roller with cycles, or replacement.

    When you look at natural populations, they are not a neat log growth function. Mostly it is a basic “Logistics Function” ( “S” shaped curve).

    But it also has oscillations in it (due to predator’s population growth first lagging then over consuming prey; or due to resource – food – depletion in the same kind of cycle, and disease in waves). Humans add periodic wars to the oscillators…

  26. jeremyp99 says:

    Indeed and it seems the EU long ago decided that swamping Europe with Muslims and the population of Africa was the way to deal with this. Sadly, they forgot to ask us…

    Barcelona Agreement – 1995

  27. Jon K says:

    Why did the male get no vaccine?
    At 2:15 in the video

  28. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    @Jon K:

    That is interesting. I wonder if the Dr. just forgot to load it, and didn’t want to look like a fool on video so decided to “run with it” and just catch the guy up later?

    I could also see the guy not wanting to take the shot and they “cut a deal”…

    Otherwise I can’t think of any “good” reasons…

  29. Power Grab says:

    I think it’s time to listen to this oldie-but-goodie:

  30. President Elect H.R. says:

    @Power Grab – I take it you’re done with the move and ready to prop up your feet for a few minutes? 👍😊

    P.S. I didn’t know S.D. Jr. did a version of this. Nice.

    P.P.S. BREAK IS OVER. Get back to unpacking! 😜

  31. Power Grab says:

    @ President Elect H.R.:

    I don’t think I ever heard them play that song on the radio, but they did play “The Candy Man”. When I finally bought the CD years and years later, I discovered “The People Tree”. They must have recorded that on the same day as they did “The Candy Man”. It sounds like the same crew.

    Our entertainment culture has changed so much! They used to encourage boys and girls to play nicely together…now you’re more likely to hear gangsta noise coming from a passing car. The disrespect of women is palpable! How’re you gonna increase the population with that kind of thing going on?!?

    I am out of the old place. I have had to spend time at work to get some rest!! I am recovering now that the constant lifting of boxes and furniture is mostly past. I don’t feel as much like road kill when I get up in the morning ;-)

    The unpacking will continue for some time…but first, I have to prepare 15 or 16 luminarias by cutting little “doors” in one gallon jugs so I can put in the sand and candles. That has to be all done and out on the curb by Saturday evening.

    I used to drive through my new neighborhood to look at the Christmas lights and traditional luminarias since the mid-1980s. Now I will be providing them!

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