W.O.O.D. – Beginning Of The End 25 Jan 2021


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:

and remains open for threads running there (at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

Beginning Of The End

Wasting no time, the Democrats are Hell Bent on the destruction of the USA of the last 200+ years. Having stolen the vote once, they are by God (or is that more by Marx?) going to hang onto it. This incidentally involves flooding the USA with folks who have no USA traditions, nor language to read the Constitution, and silencing those who might educate them about it. Then there’s all that loverly China & Soros money to rake in… (IMHO, of course.)

Last time I’d said:

“One path has Beijing Biden made POTU-SINO (POTUS In Name Only). China will own the USA, and lord help the world.”

Well, it IS Lord help the world time now. Taiwan and India, first up, as America is dismantled from within.

Several of these links come from:


Which looks like a pretty easy place to pick up non-MSM-spin actual news, plus some Right Wing Spin.


Dems introduced HR1 nationalizing elections, a bill to destroy the USA
By M. Dowling -January 24, 202125

Democrats introduced HR1, a bill that will destroy our country. It nationalizes the vote, and makes every corrupt form of voting legal, and ends voter ID nationwide. It allows ballot harvesting, felon voters, a path to DC statehood.

D.C. statehood will give Democrats two more senators almost immediately. That will then allow them to ram anything through, including making PR a state, giving them two more senators and a permanent Democrat electoral majority.

That majority and the power that comes with it is what open borders is about. It’s what the demonization of Trump and his supporters is about.

These people are absolutely neo-communists. No one but fascists, communists, Nazis would do something like this.

The bill would ensure Democrats win all elections in perpetuity. HR1 goes under the guise of protecting our elections, for the people.

The communistic bill includes:

Internet-only registration with electronic signature submission. In other words, no voter ID.
Nationwide ‘Motor Voter’ registration. If you get a driver’s license, you are automatically registered to vote.
16-year-olds required to be registered to vote. Children voting is a big plus for Democrats.
Nationwide same-day registration.
Grants ($25M) for using minors in election activities. [brainwashing]
Prohibiting attempts to clean voter rolls of non-residents.
Murderers and rapists can vote.
Mandatory early voting.
Banning voter ID
Roadwork for DC statehood and territory statehood.
It gives federal workers [union people, mostly Democrats] SIX DAYS of paid vacation to work the polls.

So there’s that… One wonders if there’s any unconstitutionality in any of that, or if that matters anymore.

China, now free of U.S. opposition via Beijing Biden, is wasting no time on the military front:


Sikkim: Chinese and Indian troops ‘in new border clash’


Taiwan reports large incursion by Chinese warplanes for second day
Published6 hours ago

Taiwan has reported a large incursion by Chinese warplanes for the second day running, a show of force that coincides with the first days of US President Joe Biden’s term of office.

Sunday’s operation involved 15 aircraft and followed a similar drill that led to a warning from Washington.

China sees democratic Taiwan as a breakaway province, but Taiwan sees itself as a sovereign state.

Analysts say China is testing the level of support of Mr Biden for Taiwan.

In the US’s first public remarks on Taiwan since Mr Biden came into power, the US State Department reaffirmed its “rock-solid commitment” to helping it defend itself.

One wonders if China Joe has had time to ‘reorient’ the State Department yet, or is that for next week?

Looks like the Lawfair has begun with “Sue To Shut Up” being served. I’ve generally been of the belief it is a very bad idea to sue a lawyer, and these folks (Dominion & Friends) are suing 2 of them. Beware the “Discovery” phase…


Trump lawyer Giuliani faces $1.3 billion lawsuit over ‘big lie’ election fraud claims
4 mins ago3 min read

By Jan Wolfe and Susan Heavey

(Reuters) – A U.S. voting machine company filed a $1.3 billion lawsuit against former President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani, accusing him of defamation in what it called his “big lie” campaign about widespread fraud in the presidential election, court documents on Monday showed.

The Denver-based company, Dominion Voting Systems Inc, filed an earlier lawsuit against pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, whom the company also accused of spreading false conspiracy theories about the election that Trump lost to Democrat Joe Biden.

A senior Dominion employee, Eric Coomer, also filed a defamation lawsuit against the Trump campaign, saying he had been driven into hiding because of death threats from Trump supporters.

Giuliani said in a statement that Dominion’s lawsuit was intended to intimidate others from exercising their free speech rights.

So looks like opinions are now being made a criminal act. Oh Boy won’t that lead to interesting times in court… /sarc;

I’ve lost track of the number of nations in Europe that have had a government turnover / rollover. Looks like the unrest is still afoot in Holland:


Dutch police clash with anti-curfew protesters, amid looting and vandalism

Issued on: 25/01/2021 – 08:28
Modified: 25/01/2021 – 08:31

Protests against a curfew to curb the spread of Covid-19 in the Netherlands degenerated into clashes with police and looting in cities across the country Sunday, authorities and reports said.

Police used water cannon and dogs in Amsterdam, public television NOS reported, after hundreds gathered to protest the curfew which is set to last until February 10 and is the country’s first since World War II.

Anyone keeping score on the governments that have swapped in the last few months? IIRC, Italy is among them.


Italy’s government falls into chaos, further complicating the covid response
[photo left out]
Former prime minister Matteo Renzi withdrew his support from the rickety governing coalition, leading Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte to scramble to craft a new majority. (Alberto Pizzoli/AP)

Chico Harlan
Jan. 13, 2021 at 12:49 p.m. PST
ROME — Italy now has a political crisis on top of a resurgent pandemic.

A rickety truce in the country’s ruling coalition broke apart Wednesday when former prime minister Matteo Renzi withdrew his small party’s support for the government, plunging the country into political chaos.

Analysts still think the likeliest scenario is that the current prime minister, Giuseppe Conte, will cobble together a new coalition majority and stay on the job. ­Renzi, trying to revive his own career and clout, even left the door ajar to some kind of compromise.

But if Conte fails to assemble a new majority, far more significant political changes could upend a country contending not only with the virus but also with its deepest recession on record. Italy could wind up with an unelected unity government — or new elections that bring the far right to power.

There’s been others but I’ve lost track… Croatia was in there, and some others. Looks like Europe is a mess. Oh, and Merkel is out (one small glimmer of good news ;-)


Croatian Government Collapses as Prime Minister Oreskovic Ousted

Croatian parliament voted overwhelmingly to remove the premier after no-confidence motion was filed by Conservative coalition members

Associated Press
June 16, 2016 11:46 am ET

ZAGREB, Croatia—Croatia’s parliament voted overwhelmingly Thursday to oust Prime Minister Tihomir Oreskovic, triggering the fall of the government and raising the prospect of an early election in the European Union’s newest member state.

The vote in the 151-seat assembly was 125 for the ouster, 15 against and two abstentions.

Parliament acted on the motion filed by the conservative Croatian Democratic Union, the senior party in the ruling ‘Patriotic Coalition.’ The conservatives have said Oreskovic, a Canada-educated financial expert who was elected to the post in January, has proved incapable of leading the country amid deep economic and social problems.

The conservatives had been locked in a dispute with the Most party, its coalition partner, which backed Oreskovic. The left-wing opposition had called for early elections as the way out of the crisis.

Lawmakers will now have 30 days to form a new government or face a snap election.

You will need to find a different link to read the WHOLE A/P story. Since it IS AP you can rest assured it is everywhere and not all of them try to force you into a login to read it. Why I don’t bother with the WSJ most of the time, but this came up first in a search so, whatever.


End of Merkel era begins as German CDU picks new party leader
Close race expected as more than 1,000 delegates are set to pick a new Christian Conservative leader in an online congress on Saturday.

16 Jan 2021
Germany’s Christian Democrats will elect a new chairman on Saturday, aiming to unite their conservative party behind a new leader who they hope can succeed Angela Merkel as chancellor when she steps down after federal elections in September.

At stake is the leadership of Europe’s biggest economy in the era after Merkel, who has pledged not to run again after becoming Europe’s predominant leader since taking office in 2005 and proving a winner with German voters.

BUT we get to wait a good long while…


Chancellor Angela Merkel’s centre-right party on Saturday chose Armin Laschet, the pragmatic governor of Germany’s most populous state, as its new leader — sending a signal of continuity months before an election in which voters will decide who becomes the new chancellor.

Laschet defeated Friedrich Merz, a conservative and one-time Merkel rival, at an online convention of the Christian Democratic Union. Laschet won 521 votes to Merz’s 466. A third candidate, prominent lawmaker Norbert Roettgen, was eliminated in a first round of voting.

Saturday’s vote isn’t the final word on who will run as the centre-right candidate for chancellor in Germany’s September 26 election,
but Laschet will either run for chancellor or will have a big say in who does.

So sort of ‘leaving but not gone’… yet.

Just to give you an idea how sick things are in Amerika today, Angela, the former East German, thinks Twitter has gone too far. When you’ve gone to far for citizens of the former East Germany, you’ve set a new benchmark… IMHO of course.


Germany’s Merkel hits out at Twitter over ‘problematic’ Trump ban

LONDON — German Chancellor Angela Merkel blasted Twitter’s decision to ban U.S. President Donald Trump.

“The right to freedom of opinion is of fundamental importance,” Steffen Seibert, Merkel’s chief spokesman, told reporters in Berlin on Monday, according to Reuters.

“Given that, the chancellor considers it problematic that the president’s accounts have been permanently suspended.”

So there’s that.

Then get ready for a Whole Lot of “Get Woke, Go Broke” as about 70 to 100 Million Americans just don’t see any reason to swallow your crap.


Budweiser becomes latest Super Bowl commercial stalwart to sit out this year’s broadcast
Tom Schad

With funny frogs, adorable puppies and its iconic Clydesdale horses, Budweiser has become synonymous with Super Bowl advertising over the past four decades, producing some of the most memorable commercials in the history of television’s marquee live event.

This year, however, the brand is taking a pass.

Budweiser announced Monday morning that it is foregoing its annual Super Bowl commercial slot for the first time in 37 years, joining fellow juggernauts Coke, Hyundai and Pepsi in skipping this year’s Super Bowl broadcast amid the financial uncertainty of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Yeah, blame it on Chinese Wuhan Covid… But we all know that if there’s any “taking a knee”, the advertisers are going on the Do Not Buy list…

Let me make my position perfectly clear:

ANY company that endorses any of {Self Avowed Communist BLM, Usurper Biden & Co., China, kneeling} or disses Trump gets none of my money if there is any way at all I can arrange it. You have stated your intention is to destroy my country and by extension, me. You are explicitly endorsing a Communist Coup in progress. Go pound sand as you are dead to me.

Clear enough?

In Conclusion

It’s only started on the destruction of the American Economy and the US Dollar. Not sure what’s next on the firing line, but Oil, Gas & Coal are certainly in the early up group:


Expert: Biden Actions Against American Oil, Gas Energy Production Could Kill as Many as 1 Million Jobs

Frank Macchiarola, senior vice president of Policy, Economics and Regulatory Affairs at the American Petroleum Institute (API), said in an interview on SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Saturday with host Matt Boyle that if President Joe Biden puts a permanent ban on oil and gas development on federal waters and land, it could cost 1 million American jobs.

Boyle asked Macchiarola about the significance of Biden revoking the permit for the Keystone XL Pipeline and putting a 60-day pause on federal land leasing in his first days in office.

“I think the first four days of the Biden Administration have given a clear picture of what the next four years could look like,”
he said. “President Biden comes into office with a real economic headwind and a difficult labor market but at the same time he inherited an energy [landscape] that’s stronger because of America’s shale revolution.”

“We’ve produced lower household energy costs as a result of U.S. energy and less reliance on foreign energy sources,” Macchiarola added.

“The president has a choice to make: He can maintain U.S. leadership and maintain and support our economic recovery with American energy or he can pursue policies that destroy jobs and at the same time increase energy imports,” he further asserted.

Gee… which one of those gives China a competitive advantage? Watch for Hunter to score another big “contract”…

Just like ‘re-joining’ the “Paris Accords” that amounts to a choke chain on The Western Economies, $200 BILLION a Year in graft to wash through the UN, and a free ride for China. It’s all about how much money The Bidens & Co. can cream off as they parasitize the USA. That’s how I see it and it’s my opinion of things.

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187 Responses to W.O.O.D. – Beginning Of The End 25 Jan 2021

  1. philjourdan says:

    One wonders if there’s any unconstitutionality in any of that, or if that matters anymore.

    That should read “any constitutionality”. As clearly there is none. The constitution gives the states the right to run elections, not the feds (it took an amendment to wrest the senate from the States). The Constitution also says that DC cannot be in any STATE. Period. Does Constitutionality matter? Probably not. But the bill is unconstitutional from the get go.

  2. A C Osborn says:

    EM, I totally agree with your round up.

    Did you include more expensive medicine in your list?
    Illegal Immigrants set free regardless of crimes committed.

  3. E.M.Smith says:

    @A.C. Osborn:

    Nope. Not trying for a canonical list of Biden Ills… It would take months and be too long to read…


    Good points…


    Oh, Gee, Faceplant giving private conversation details to the FBI for folks in the Troubles at the Capitol Building… What a surprise! /sarc;

    Glad I don’t use Facebook (and don’t know why, at this point, anyone would…)

    Wonder if facial recognition will finger me as having stood on the road far from the steps and thus being in some unknown way ‘evil’… Then again, I was all in black and standing next to 3 other all black dressed who I’m pretty sure were an Antifa Cell based on what they were saying… so maybe I’m golden… May need to memorize some Antifa “patter” just in case…

    Wonder if it is too late to join up with a local ‘cell’…

  4. E.M.Smith says:

    And in other Global Warming News: Snow this week in Malibu


    Yes, that’s right folks, it has gotten SO warm, hot in fact, that it is snowing on the beachfront city of Malibu California. Home to movie stars, convertibles, pool parties all year round, surfing in the sun, and where it is possible to have your very own banana tree. Yes, that Southern California Malibu.

    MALIBU, Calif. (KABC) — In one of the ultimate displays of the range of Southern California weather, the Malibu community saw a rare snowfall on Saturday, just a week after seeing temperatures in the 80s.

    Locals took advantage of the unusual coating of white stuff to take pictures and even try a little sledding along Malibu Canyon Road.

    Last week, Malibu was sunny and in the low 80s and remained warm throughout the week. But the first of a series of several storm systems moved into the Southern California region this weekend, bringing rain, hail and snow to many communities.

    Yes Sir, if this global warming gets much worse, folks in San Diego may need to start buying snow plows and muck-lucks…


    That was just the start.

    There are at least two more storms expected in the region this week. Mountain communities can expect to see a foot or more of snow on Thursday. No word yet on whether any of that might fall on Malibu.

  5. E.M.Smith says:


    Victor David Hanson, prof of classics and military history, not the climate James Hansen of ‘cooking the books with GisTemp’ fame… just so folks know…

  6. philjourdan says:

    Re: Snow in Malibu – that is about right. It snows on the left coast about every 50 years, and the last time it did was 1968 (Oceanside, kind of surprised me!)

  7. E.M.Smith says:

    Interesting synopsis of the Constitution per impeachment:

    Impeachment Clauses

    Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5

    The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

    Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7

    The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside; And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

    Judgement in Cases of Impreachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law.

    Article 2, Section 4

    The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

    Article 3, Section 1

    . . . The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour. . . .

    So already the Chief Justice has said he’s not going to preside. So doesn’t that say “Trump is not President” on the face of it? So how do you impeach someone who is not in office? Eh?

    Then the ‘punishment’ is “removal from office” explicitly tied to POTUS. Then the limitation to Treason (didn’t happen), Bribery (didn’t happen), and “high Crimes & Misdemeanors” (didn’t happen).

    Just so bogus.

  8. Paul, Somerset says:

    Another way of looking at the consequences of Merkel’s eventual retirement from the scene:

    “The election of the new chairman of the Christian Democrat Union Party in Germany should be a cause for alarm, not just for Europeans but for Europe’s allies as well. Armin Laschet, the Minister President of Germany’s most populous state, who was elected leader of the centre-right, governing, CDU Party on the 16th of January has a complicated view of the world.
    He has in the past defended the authoritarian regime of President Assad in Syria, advocated for closer relations with Communist China, and called for a thawing out of diplomatic ties with Russia. He is on top of all this, a convinced pro-European.”


    To be clear, I’m not endorsing any of this article’s conclusions about Herr Laschet, but it’s worth a read to get some background with which to draw your own. It’s not too long.

  9. H.R. says:

    Re impeaching the unimpeachable, i.e., Former President Trump.

    The Uniparty is playing to their base. Their base is detached from reality, assuming they have the mental capacity to brush their teeth and operate a cellphone. Then there is the rest of their base which most likely is just plain stupid.

    I believe the idea is to bankrupt Trump via endless meritless lawsuits.

  10. Ossqss says:

    Re: Snow in Malibu

    Some are disputing the claim as it appeared to be hail.


    I agree with his observations based on the other pictures I have viewed, but really don’t know since I was not there :-)

  11. YMMV says:

    Beginning Of The End, or end of the beginning. I was thinking to describe how the covid virus works in terms of takeovers. But it is easier the other way around. Like so…

    In the beginning there was the word/meme/virus. Utopia. We first began to notice it in France. The Commune, the Revolution. Marx picked it up and made it his own. Variants and mutations happened as other carriers spread it around the world.

    This is how it works. First the big promise, the manifesto that proclaims how wonderful utopia will be, overpowering the natural skepticism of the general population. Then it gets into the police forces, who then ignore certain attacks on the system. Then it gets into the justice system, which then ignores certain corruption. Then with those two systems taken down from within, it gets total control. It’s walk like a zombie time.

    Or something like that.

  12. beththeserf says:

    Those Democrit Cancel Culturists –
    Try to cancel newly elected Republican President in 2016 by fake Steele Dossier campaign.
    Try to cancel free speech via Woke-speak and Big Tech censorship.
    Try to cancel free movement of cits by Covid concerted scare campaign – never let up, make this permanent via new rules on vaccination, and more, ( UN Agenda 21 land lock ups.)
    Try to cancel half the electorate…, those who voted Republican for Trump.
    Try to cancel Trump forever and MAGA…
    Try to ‘Make – America – Gulag – Archipelago. ‘

  13. Terry Jackson says:

    Interesting thought, what if al the tradesmen deplatformed the Left? Worth a read.

  14. Compu Gator says:

    “Snow” fell in Miami (Dade Co., Florida), albeit almost certainly without accumulation, during the 1976/1977 winter (altho’ maybe instead in the 1977/1978 winter).

  15. Pinroot says:

    Well, who knew that it was National News Literacy Week? I suspect that critical thinking is discouraged. We’ll decide where to get your ‘news’ and how you should feel about it.

  16. another ian says:

    Incidentally the Brave spellchecker didn’t like “blaggard” as a word.


  17. David A says:

    ( some precedents are best not set)

    The case for impeaching Obama is far stronger then the fantasy that because President Trump told his supporters we must “fight” he is guilty of sedition.

  18. another ian says:

    “This evening we look back at a 1984 Apple ad that, unbeknownst to them at the time, previewed Low Information Leftist voters of 2020-2021. ‘”


    And take this test


    Via a comment at Jo Nova

  19. I was looking for Tax freedom day for the UK and came across this for the US which I thought might be of interest


    As a matter of interest here are some ones for Europe in the link below -with France at an Eye watering 19th July. So America is equivalent to Cyprus and Malta. Mind you a lot of the US money instead of going into the tax figure is presumably reclining somewhere in the Giant US general debt so who is ultimately better off becomes difficult to work out



  20. Steve C says:

    In the hope that it might raise a smile or two in these dark days, another taster from my bookshelves. This is a page from Para Handy (Peter, son of Andrew, in Glasgow dialect!), the Master Mariner who commands The Vital Spark, a small tramp steamer tramping small cargoes around the River Clyde area. My copy is published by Lomond Books, incorporating all three of the original books into one paperback, ISBN 0-947782-88-5. First published in 1931 by ‘Neil Munro’ (real name Hugh Foulis).

    In this story, The Sea Cook, the crew have been bellyaching about the uninspiring food on board ship, and one of them, Macphail, has brought his wife’s cookbook on board for inspiration. This is the last page of the story.

    There was an old-fashioned cutter yacht at anchor in Brodick Bay with a leg of mutton and two plucked fowls hanging openly under the overhang of her stern, which is sometimes even yet the only pantry a yacht of that type has, though the result is not very decorative.

    “Look at that!” said the engineer to The Tar as the Vital Spark puffed past the yacht. “There’s sensible meat for sailors; no malleable mule. I’ll bate you them fellows has a cook wi’ aal his wuts aboot him.”

    “It’s aal right, Macphail,” said The Tar; “chust you wait till tomorrow and I’ll give you fancy cookin’.”

    And sure enough on Sunday he had two boiled fowls for dinner. It was such an excellent dinner that even the engineer was delighted.

    “I’ll bate you that you made them hens ready oot o’ the wife’s cookery book,” he said, “There’s no’ a better cookery book on the South-side of Gleska; the genuine Aunt Kate’s. People come far and near for the lend o’ that when they’re havin’ anything extra.”

    “Where did you buy the hens?” inquired the Captain, nibbling contentedly at the last bone left after the repast.

    “I didna buy them at aal,” said The Tar. “I couldna be expected to buy chuckens on the money you alloo me. Forbye, it doesna say anything aboot buying in Macphail’s cookery book. It says, ‘Take two chickens and boil slowly.’ So I chust had to take them.”

    “What do you mean by that?” asked Para Handy, with great apprehension.

    “I chust went oot in a wee boat late last night and took them from the stern o’ yon wee yacht,” said The Tar coolly; and a great silence fell upon the crew of the Vital Spark.

    “To-morrow,” said the Captain emphatically at last — “to-morrow you’ll have tinned meat; do you know that, Colin? And you’ll never have chucken on the boat again, not if Macphail was breakin’ his he’rt for it.”

  21. cdquarles says:

    Speaking of covid, here is the second part of an article discussing the extremely loose covid case and covid related death criteria: https://redstate.com/michael_thau/2021/01/25/report-cdc-change-in-covid-criteria-that-inflated-fatalities-10-fold-also-broke-federal-law-conclusion-n316252. Criminal, I say. (Hmm, I wonder what would happen to a doctor or hospital that tried to be this aggressive with any other diagnosis for reimbursement purposes. Would they retroactively get denied and payments withheld? Would they be charged criminally for defrauding the government? Not rhetorical, because I know of people who *have* been treated this way and some who have been charged and convicted of Medicare fraud for it.)

  22. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I regularly have all sorts of ordinary and acceptable words rejected by ‘spell checkers’. Especially any from an older dialect or more regional, plus various plurals and other modified forms.

    IMHO, the dictionaries are very limited in size and have a bias toward language of the last 20 years. Like Zink vs Zinc. BOTH are historically correct but only zinc is allowed by the spell checker. Or the more recent “sic” decorating direct quotes of the USA Constitution for using “Chuse” instead of Choose. Also historically correct.

    In almost all of my writings, there’s at least one ‘spelling complaint’ about a word that is actually FINE per full page of text. So I’ll type it into DuckDuckGo and verify that it’s fine with their spell checker…

    OH, and I’ve had Real Haggis once. Kind-of liked it too. Then again, I grew up in a farm town where “If it moved you ate it, if it didn’t move, you tried…” I’m quite fond of most “organ meats” be it liver, sweetbreads, heart, kidney, etc. Had “Brains & Eggs” once as a kid (it was more common then…), along with pickled pigs feet that were in a big glass crock at the local butcher shop. So for me, haggis was not a big reach / ask… Oh, and menudo with Miguel… tripe soup…

    FWIW, I’m from the school of thought that it is “made with what you’ve got” and not with a fixed requirement for particular parts. The one I had was made by a real Scot and was “proper” (though I’m not sure how he got all the bits…) Reminded me of many other dishes with a mix of ‘meat and grains’ in how it was more satisfying than either separately. The oats moderating the stronger flavors of what we called ‘innards’ when I was a kid. The meats flavoring up the oats. Like stuffing in a bird makes it better and the bird flavors up the stuffing. Or various meats laid on a bed of pilaf of some sort helps both.

    So I’m not really upset that you can’t put in sheep lungs. Nor would I be upset if they were there. It’s just a variation on a theme, so pick your preference.

  23. E.M.Smith says:

    OH Gawd… from a link in CDQuarles linked story… how to Troll Like A Lion Potus:


    Trump Makes New Move That’s the Ultimate Troll, and Liberals Are Already Melting Down
    By Nick Arama | Jan 26, 2021 1:30 AM ET

    After the election and before anything was certified, just operating on the call of the media, Biden tried to validate himself more by having a backer behind him in every appearance proclaiming the “Office of the President Elect.” Of course, there is no such “Office.”

    Today President Trump announced he was creating the ‘Office of the Former President’ in Florida that would be carrying on his administration’s agenda into the future.

    A statement from Trump’s office said the “Office of the Former President” will be responsible for his “correspondence, public statements, appearances, and official activities.” It also said that it would “advance the interests of the United States and….carry on the agenda of the Trump Administration through advocacy, organizing, and public activism.”

    Gotta love it ;-)

  24. Nancy & John Hultquist says:

    Trump will keep the yellow media energized; maintaining their needed viewers.

    Seems to me watching how citizens respond to the Biden/Harris excesses will be the more interesting stories. And, also, how the Rep. Party and related non-progressives respond is of some urgency.
    And note: “Former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, asserted that tech industry leaders and Democrats such as Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and former CIA director John Brennan are “domestic enemies” of the U.S. who are more dangerous than the rioters …”
    Started her own podcast.

  25. another ian says:

    E.M. Thanks for that.

    “Blaggard” does seem a word for the times though

  26. Compu Gator says:

    It’d be good to see a check-in from ‘cdquarles’ at his earliest opportunity: Local ABC-Radio affiliate WDBO [*] reported a tornado north of Birmingham (Ala.).

    Note * : It’s the news network carried by 1 of 2 radio stations in metro Orlando that carry conservative programming, e.g., Hannity. The other comparable station, which features Limbaugh, carries Fox News, for all the difference that makes anymore.

  27. Ralph B says:

    I was going to schedule a COVID test this morning with CVS, I am exposed quite a bit but so far I have yet to test positive. Well 2 weeks ago every CVS has rapid testing, today none within 100 miles. Rather suspicious, only thing that changed was an inauguration. The number of positives in this area is going to drop for sure.

  28. another ian says:

    January 27, 2021 at 4:11 am · Reply
    To the light and out of the dark,
    Like survivors from old Noah’s ark,
    As Biden’s new team,
    Leads the American dream,
    Which I wish could be true but it’s sarc”


  29. H.R. says:

    It just occurred to me….

    Former President Trump set up “The Office of The Former President” today. The two articles I ran across positioned it as the ultimate troll. Trump was playing off of Biden’s pretentious “Office of The President Elect.”

    But it set me thinking. First off, there is that old saying about Hollywood celebrities; “I don’t care if it’s good or bad or true or false, just so long as they spell my name right.” Trump doesn’t want to retire to the shadows. He still means to fix what ails America, I do believe.

    Then, he’s our VSG (Very Stable Genius). He is taking advantage of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome). If our YSM was smart, and they are not, (I’d bet on a box of rocks and hammers against the alleged brightest of the YSM in a Jeopardy Challenge episode) they would never again mention or write about anything Trump. Bzzzt… non-entity.

    But Trump will continually tweak the noses of the YSM with things he knows they will go crazy over and will blow up and plaster over TV, Radio, and Print, thus keeping Trump in the public eye. They are stupid and they can’t help but react with megatons of free publicity. It’s just too easy for Trump.

    Watch. If things go too smoothly, if they try to ignore Trump, Trump will intentionally make some meaningless gaffe and KABOOM! Off goes the YSM again. “TRUMP, Orange Man Bad! muuuuuhh DRUMPH!”

    I thought the YSM would crash and burn with President Trump out of office. Nope Trump will keep them and himself alive and kickin’.

    VSG, indeed.
    P.S. The “Office of The Former President” is useful not only as a troll, but as a place to coordinate Trump’s ongoing political efforts. He intends to primary any GOP candidate that doesn’t play ball. It will also be a place that will garner massive $$$$$ donations whereas donations to The Republican Party are going to soon amount to little more than lunch money.

    Any Repubs that want campaign backing will have to come to Trump for the money and not the RNC. They will be owned by Trump. Yup, yup, yup. VSG indeed.

  30. DonM says:

    Wuhan flu … RACIST
    China Virus … RACIST

    UK strain … common acceptable language on every news station
    S.A. variant … common acceptable language on every news station.
    Brazil variant … common acceptable language on every news station.

    Can any one that objected to the original ‘racist’ description of the virus please explain why it is OK to subjugate the good folks of England & South Africa & Brazil to potential discriminatory action by associating them with a disease???

  31. H.R. says:


    Trump lost a lot of his personal fortune by becoming a hated, persecuted President. The past Five years have cost him a LOT of money.

    But what I have described above well, Trump has gained enormously in political power and financial power.

    He has 70 to 80 million supporters and a political organization set up to control billions and billions of dollars. No, the dollars don’t have to be in his personal piggy bank. He just has to have control of them. And Trump has developed political backers on a global scale; the Middle-east, Japan, Eastern Europe, India and more, and if not nations, then influential leaders in other nations.

    Trump is still in a dogfight, though. The outcome is still up in the air.

  32. H.R. says:

    DonM: “Can any one that objected to the original ‘racist’ description of the virus please explain why it is OK to subjugate the good folks of England & South Africa & Brazil to potential discriminatory action by associating them with a disease???”

    No. None of them can. Everything the Commies say (They sure aren’t the good ol’ Blue Dog Dems your Uncle Fred voted for. They are Commies.) is right/sacrosanct/Devine revelation and undisputed gospel with a “Best-by” date of the instant they say it**.
    **Subject to change without prior notice or even a minimal sanity or hypocrisy check.

  33. another ian says:

    “We’re all in this together”


    Check the graph – did you make it??

  34. Steven Fraser says:

    @EM: Further changes in recommendations re COVID-19


    Seems curious to me, less than 4 weeks into the new year, the negative press about Ivermectin and HCQ seems to be reversing.

  35. cdquarles says:

    I am fine, for that tornado (EF3) hit north of Birmingham. I am southeast of Birmingham. The storm was about 70 miles NW of me. That said, my niece who is the daughter of my sister used to work in Fultondale and had to drive through the damaged area to go to her new job south of Birmingham. My children that live in Birmingham all live south of the center of the city. By the way, in 2011, an EF5 plowed through Tuscaloosa on through Birmingham and on toward Gadsden. That one made this one seem quite mild.

  36. llanfar says:

    Fauci uncovered by Fox Business?? https://rumble.com/vd8nrh-steve-hilton-on-fauci.html

    Also, very good presentation on the experimental vaccines vs. HCQ & Ivermectin – runtime 56:09 https://youtu.be/z72zIfdnjC4

  37. David A says:

    Llanfar, very good links.
    If anyone has not, consider signing the petition at AFLD

    5 days ago Dr Gold was arrested because apparently, while distributing materials at the Capitol protest, she had entered the Capitol at an area where someone else ( possibly the police or NG) at removed the barricades. She said the group she was with did no destruction, and she did not know it was illegal.

    She is a very good women.

  38. E.M.Smith says:

    Agence Francaise de Lutte contre le Dopage (National Anti-Doping Agency, France)?
    Australian Freight & Logistics Directory?

  39. patrick healy says:


    RIP America
    It is sad to see you go
    The way of past great empires
    For to you a debt we owe;
    A light in the great darkness
    You kept satan in his place,
    A bastion of freedom
    Guardian of the human race.

    But while you were distracted
    The deceiver took your youth,
    They were indoctrinated
    Contradicting Christian truth;
    Now they have taken over
    As the teachers had conspired,
    The marxist coup completed
    Without any bullet fired.

    We get to twenty twenty
    With the great election fraud,
    Many dead ones voted twice
    More imported from abroad;
    Total votes do not matter
    Just ignore your vast amount,
    We’ve decided on the winner
    We manipulate the count.

    Old Joebama’s senile
    He is just an avatar,
    It’s Harris they have chosen
    As the Chinese rising star;
    When ailing joe is sectioned
    Into his shoes she’s poised to jump,
    The coup de gras accomplished
    They’ve got rid of Donald Trump.

    Worth remembering this little gem :-

    “First we will take Eastern Europe, then the masses of Asia. We will encircle the last bastion of capitalism, the United States of America. We will not need to fight. It will fall as a ripe fruit into our hands”
    Vlad Lenin 1923.
    Interesting about the ripe Banana/fruit – its what you get from a Banana Republic!

  40. cdquarles says:

    AFLD in this case stands for America’s Front Line Doctors.

  41. Pinroot says:

    @DonM – Biden has signed an EO “addressing racism toward Asian Americans during pandemic”. “The Biden executive order is also expected to direct federal agencies like the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to examine whether there are xenophobic references like “China virus” in any existing policies, directives or government websites published by the Trump administration.”

    From here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-racism-asian-americans-executive-action/

  42. E.M.Smith says:

    Saw a Biden clip on Newsmax w/ him going All In on Climate Fear Porn.

    One good thing: Since we know he has no thoughts of his own, we know everthing he does is a straight order from China and the Globalist Cabal.

    Makes it easy to catalog their Agenda, actions, and plans.

  43. David A says:

    The AFLD petition is primarily geared to protest any push to demand vaccine use or else…
    Also I think to recommend Ivermectin and HCQ.

    One of the little things we can do.

    As I typed Ivermectin, my post, every word, turned into Chinese script.
    Very strange, and I am not kidding.
    I had to retype it.

  44. Pinroot says:

    Well apparently you can steal an election with no repercussions but $hite post in 2016 and eventually Biden’s DOJ will come after you for ‘election interference’.

    Twitter troll who shared misleading voting memes in 2016 charged with election interference

  45. Ossqss says:

    This is interesting. I have not made it all the way through yet as it is nearly 1 hr.

    Copy and paste link less the –


  46. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I’ve not looked at the Tails Wiki in a few years, but I’ve run it on a machine or two at one time or another. (Mostly to become familiar with it, partly to raise forensics skills with it should I ever be faced with it in an audit / recovery / incursion, somewhat just out of curiousity). It is “way more” than I’ve ever needed in the past, but given current trends, may not be enough in another 6 months…

    A somewhat newer fork is “Heads”:


    heads is a GNU/Linux liveCD distribution aimed at people who like the aspect of controlling their privacy and anonymity on the Internet. You might have heard of Tails as a similar GNU/Linux distribution. heads was born as an answer to Tails, since Tails is using systemd as an init system and also contains non-free software.

    In heads, the init of choice is not systemd. systemd is a huge piece of software that, while being free software, has not been audited for security since its creation. Being big as it is, it is hard to do so, and as time goes, it’s becoming even tougher to audit systemd. We do not aim to disrespect or get into the controversy on why systemd is a bad choice. We just do not wish to use it.

    Another important thing is that heads uses only free software, while Tails continues using non-free software. Non-free software can not be audited and as such cannot guarantee you security or anonymity. On the other hand, with heads you only use free software, meaning you can gain access to any source code that is included in heads, at any time. Using free software it is far easier to avoid hidden backdoors and malware that might be in non-free software. We hope this makes you a tad more aware of the importance of free software and its uses.

    Let’s leave Tails forever now and get a bit deeper into heads…

    So I like it a bit more…


    Yup. The DOJ is now being “weaponized” against conservatives and conservative speech. Heard on Gorka today that claiming the election was fraudulent is in the process of being made a “hate crime” or “terrorism”…

    To which I say “Good luck with that”. Criminalizing political opinions ought not sit well with most judges and justices…

    It IS guaranteed to drive your opposition to go underground and undermine you hard from an invisible approach.

    @David A:

    Don’t worry, that was just the “auto translate and send to CCP monitors” Feature leaking past the page editor. They’ll fix that bug pronto. Just new software since Biden was sworn in and you know, new software has some bugs.

    /sarc; for the sarc impaired censors…

  47. philjourdan says:

    I talked to my investment advisor yesterday. I told her that this shit was getting out of hand. She tried to placate me, and did to some extent. But I give it to friday before I pull the plug. I am only 40% stock now. That is about to go to zero, CDs.

  48. another ian says:

    And another attitude from Oz

    “Received a wonderful email showing an old bushie with a mob of cattle behind him and he’s saying:

    “Good Morning Australia, What the f… are we offended by today?” ”


  49. another ian says:

    “Delingpole: ‘Trussst Usss! We’re Not Evil’ Claims Davos WEF Great Reset Promo Video”

    “The World Economic Forum wants you to know that there is nothing sinister about its globalist masterplan — aka The Great Reset — for a New World Order. It says so in a promo video, released to coincide with its annual Davos summit (which is taking place online all this week).

    In the video, the WEF admits that some people think that the Great Reset sounds like ‘some nefarious plan for world domination.’

    But nothing could be further from the truth, the video goes on to insist. The Great Reset is simply “an opportunity to build a better world.”

    If people think otherwise, it claims, it’s all the fault of the ‘broken system’ and the ‘pandemic.’

    It’s not surprising that people who’ve been disenfranchised by a broken system and pushed even further by the pandemic will suspect global leaders of conspiracy.

    So says the WEF. But could there be a more plausible explanation for people’s concern about the Great Reset: that they’ve started to do their homework and don’t like what they’ve discovered.”

    You can test your dis-belief at


  50. another ian says:

    “Bright Green Impossibilities”


    As that well known Irish travel direction says

    “Well firstly you can’t get there from here”

    And somewhere today (which I can’t find just now” was an item that Kerry admits that the green new deal won’t do a damn thing for emission reduction but they’ll do it anyway!!

  51. another ian says:

    Fair’s fair in publishing. right?

    “NYT Climate Action Book Review: “How to Blow Up a Pipeline”


  52. Power Grab says:

    I just found an interesting article that says doing a parasite cleanse can help preserve your zinc supplies. So maybe that is one reason Ivermectin is helpful for a condition where low zinc is a risk factor?


    Even though this is on a commercial site, I found some interesting factoids in the article.

    They don’t mention Ivermectin or oysters, but there is “food for thought”.

  53. pouncer says:

    Hi. I’m sure you’re away of the attack on hedge funds shorting the retailer GameStop. What I wonder is, does any of the money sloshing around boosting GME stock price actually get invested in the company? Is GME going to be able to keep a marginal store open or hire an additional worker because (once all the dust settles) the trading price rises from $5 to $10 per share ?

    If not, why do we use the word “invest” for the whole industry of stock trading?

  54. E.M.Smith says:


    Once stock is on the open market, the company gets nothing from it being bought or sold.

    Where the company CAN get something from it, is from issuing new shares and selling them at the then current price.

    For startups, the usual pattern is “rounds”. So the first round goes to the Venture Capitalists. Then there may be a “round B”, C, D, etc.


    Sounds confusing? Basically, a funding round is any time you raise money from one or more investors. They are labeled A, B, C, etc. because they happen one after another, and each funding rounds means something slightly different. The type of funding rounds also depends on the type of shares that are being sold in the round (common stock, preferred shares) and how investors will get their money back.

    Now Gamestop and other already listed companies have usually gone past that stage. They can still issue more new shares and sell them, but it has some regulatory processes that make it hard to just suddenly do it on a stock spike.

    So essentially, no. The trading doesn’t do anything much for the company in terms of cash available to them. (Employees with stock or stock options may well benefit if they can sell quick…).

    We call it “investing” because “crap shoot” doesn’t sound as good…

  55. pouncer says:

    “(Employees with stock or stock options may well benefit if they can sell quick…).”

    Now THAT’S a perverse incentive! Why work to cut real physical costs or raise actual revenues in the brick and mortar retail world if employees can pocket a profit in the frothy and volatile virtual markets?

  56. E.M.Smith says:

    Well some kind of “audit” is going to be done in Maricopa:

    But the terms were “negotiated” … so was it “clean up on isle Biden” or “As used”?

    Who knows…

  57. E.M.Smith says:

    Rhino’s Take Notice:


    House GOP Conference Chairwoman Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) has seen her political support completely collapse in Wyoming as solid majorities of both Republicans and all voters in the state want her out of office, a new poll shows.

    What’s more, Cheney has fallen behind her primary challenger by more than double digits, a sharp turn in just weeks against the one-time rising star since she voted to impeach former President Donald Trump.

    The poll, conducted by Trump’s team and first reported by Politico, shows 73 percent of Republicans in ruby red Wyoming view her unfavorably—while 62 percent of all voters in the state similarly view her unfavorably.

    Only 10 percent of GOP voters, and 13 percent of all voters, say they would vote to reelect her
    , and she trails by more than 30 points—54 percent to 21 percent—against state Sen. Anthony Bouchard, who has announced a campaign against her since her impeachment vote.

    RINOs, they name is “Toast”… Best start cleaning out that desk now.

  58. E.M.Smith says:


    To counter that issue, most options “vest” over many years. You get an option for, say, 2000 shares, vesting in 4 years. So for 4 years, you work to make them worth more when they vest. At the end of the vesting period, you can (finally…) sell.

    So ONLY those employees who have already vested options can sell at this time.

    BTW, most “management packages” include new periodic options that start that vesting interval all over again. So again you get a reset in the level of interest in ‘now’ vs ‘future’.

    But yeah, there are still some perverse interests. Like “why take a hit to earnings this year for future earnings in 3 years if THIS year is when my options vest?”…

  59. Jim Masterson says:

    House GOP Conference Chairwoman Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) has seen her political support completely collapse in Wyoming . . . .

    I wondered if she committed political suicide. Kicking her out of office is going to lose Wyoming some prestige as she’s very senior.


  60. The True Nolan says:

    @ Power Grab: “I just found an interesting article that says doing a parasite cleanse can help preserve your zinc supplies. So maybe that is one reason Ivermectin is helpful for a condition where low zinc is a risk factor?”

    I had cancer back in 2001 and was motivated to do some research which turned up an odd confluence of factors. Successful parasites can only survive by short circuiting the immune system. In fact, people with over active immune systems (severe allergies for example) are often helped by purposely self infecting with hook worms. Even after the worms are removed, the allergies are better. Drugs which fight parasites seem to also have anti-cancer properties (Fenbebdazole, Ivermectrin, Hydroxychloroquine, Paw-paw extract and associated acetogenins). Many types of cancer seem to be triggered by parasites or viral infections.

    My working hypothesis? Parasites (both multicellular and viral) are masters at turning off the immune system. They probably do so by stopping metallic ions from entering the cells. Drugs which fight multicellular parasites do so not by attacking the parasite, but by protecting the immune system so that it can fight the parasite. The same is probably true of drugs which are antiviral.

    Conclusion? Drugs which are vermifuges are likely to also be anti-viral, and also anti-cancer. The common link seems to be an ability to re-energize the immune system. I think the basic mechanism is that they somehow unblock the passage of metallic ions (zinc, magnesium, selenium) through the cell membrane.

    So… If I were looking for some over the counter treatment as an anti-viral (or as an anti-cancer), any of the common antiparasite drugs would be the best pace to start. Ivermectrin currently makes a lot of sense because it is well tested and relatively safe. If that were not available, I would look for any generic anti-parasite. And if they shut down the sales of ALL over the counter vermifuges, I would look for any traditional anti-worm herb. Pumpkin seeds, anyone?

  61. Ossqss says:

    FYI, for all you Applers out there. Do your update if you have an applicable phone or other device.



  62. another ian says:

    “I would look for any traditional anti-worm herb. Pumpkin seeds, anyone?”

    Gentian violet?

    Some of the old sheep drenches were bluestone and arsenic and bluestone and nicotine. Reaction of the sheep wouldn’t suggest trying either.

  63. The True Nolan says:

    @ another ian: “Some of the old sheep drenches were bluestone and arsenic and bluestone and nicotine.”

    Is bluestone an older name for copper sulfate? Nicotine sulfate used to be a common garden supply. I tried looking for nicotine sulfate a decade or two ago and it is apparently no longer on the market. Thank goodness we are now protected from ourselves!

  64. philjourdan says:


    Ok, so you want a Scarabrough? Go for it! Wyoming does NOT

    The impeachment is a sham! Democrats have said worse. So you are going to vote to impeach Pelousi, Schumer, Waters and the rest of the idiots? What kind of idiot are you? WE ARE NOT IDIOTS. Get that into your head.We are not going to blindly go into the light!

    Stop posting Serioso bait!

    Reply:[ Well, you said the name of shame and it tossed you into the Moderation Queue. Think about it… Then, just above that, you have an “insult to the person” in the form of a question. Please don’t do that. It isn’t nice, doesn’t help your case, and in general is a bad idea. Besides, I don’t like it. Do enough of it, you get the boot too. (Yeah, you get one or two ‘freebees’ while I turn up the ‘education’ process. But eventually…) -E.M.S.]

  65. Ossqss says:

    Well, this is interesting. Who can guess the expected occasion?


  66. another ian says:

    The True Nolan

    Yes, copper sulphate. The mixing was done in copper vats IIRC. And it wasn’t good to get spilled on you, as a local story attests.

    Supposedly all the kids are out of the house – except the teller of the story was sick in bed. His father was the man of the world having been in Oz forces in Egypt and France in WW 1. and the other bloke had what might have been a problem. Seems he’d been indulging in a bit of extra-curricular “slipadicktome” and had subs3equent worries.

    The verdict was spillage from the copper drench vat. Which lead to stories from the consultant, who seemed to have been in training in his overseas jaunt as a potential member of “The Foreskin Fufiliers”.

    Things like this liven up family genealogy

  67. another ian says:

    Better read IMO

    “The Nemeth Report: A New Global Paradigm”


  68. H.R. says:

    Here’s an article about putting up a fence around D.C.

    The first comment and first reply are probably what jumped into just about everyone’s head first thing.


    Subsequent comments, which reflect my sentiments, suggest that it might be a very good idea, but not for the reasons stated by those that want the corral fence.

    How many unemployed pissed off middleclass Americans does it take to surround D.C.? Did anyone think to fill up all the vending machines in the corral fenced area?

  69. David A says:

    Another Ian

    I read it. Best detailed referenced study of the insanity I have seen.

    These people are insanely arrogant and impossibly ignorant in regard to the affects of their policies, the engineering impossibility of their forced programs.

    The energy density of modern society has allowed an unprecedented level of free time for so many hundreds of thousands of dangerous burecrats and deeply ignorant “educators” that their programs can only result in economic collapse, broken food chains and supply chains in all manner of products, and greatly enhanced chance of wars.

    Two thirds of the global population in two nations alone, India and China will never give more then lip service to this global government, as the economic collapse these policies would generate, if actually followed, would fuel hundreds of millions to open rebellion.

  70. Power Grab says:

    @ The True Nolan re:
    “My working hypothesis? Parasites (both multicellular and viral) are masters at turning off the immune system. They probably do so by stopping metallic ions from entering the cells. Drugs which fight multicellular parasites do so not by attacking the parasite, but by protecting the immune system so that it can fight the parasite. The same is probably true of drugs which are antiviral.”


  71. cdquarles says:

    Recall that cellular organisms are electrochemical fuel cells. They have electron transport chains. They have ion pumps (sodium out, potassium in; calcium out, magnesium in & so forth). So, don’t be surprised by what The True Nolan said. And they all alter their local environment to enhance their own survival.

  72. H.R. says:

    @Steve C- Anyone can be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.

    Y’all should nominate me. I’ve been very peaceful. I haven’t bitten the postman once in the last six months.

  73. philjourdan says:

    The problem is WHO can nominate for the NPP. Past winners, and the committee. And I am not on a single one of those lists, or I would nominate you! Refraining from biting the mailman is almost miraculous! :-)

    Members of national assemblies and national governments (cabinet members/ministers) of sovereign states as well as current heads of state
    Members of The International Court of Justice in The Hague and The Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague
    Members of l’Institut de Droit International
    Members of the International Board of the Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom
    University professors, professors emeriti and associate professors of history, social sciences, law, philosophy, theology, and religion; university rectors and university directors (or their equivalents); directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes
    Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize
    Members of the main board of directors or its equivalent of organizations that have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize
    Current and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee (proposals by current members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after 1 February)
    Former advisers to the Norwegian Nobel Committee

  74. E.M.Smith says:

    A nice look at “Whakademia”… where “Racism causes climate change” per the Biden admin:

  75. E.M.Smith says:

    Think the Left is Loony and can’t think straight? Well, in San Francisco they are renaming a bunch of schools because they remind them of someone who wasn’t at all involved in the name of the school… or for reasons that are impossible because the person was dead when the Bad Thing happened…



    James Lick Middle School

    Lick was a real estate investor who became known as a recluse in his old age, according to the Mercury News. After his death, Lick’s memorial foundation “financed the racist ‘Early Days’ statute that was removed from San Francisco’s Civic Center in response to public outcry for decades.” Since Lick had been dead for 16 years prior to the building of the statue, he personally had nothing to do with its funding.

    Lowell High School

    In another case, Board voted to rename Lowell High School, because the man the board believed was the namesake, James Russell Lowell, was skeptical of the intelligence of African Americans. However, the document notes that Lowell High School was named after Lowell, Massachusetts, since a donor to the school was from there. That city is not named after James Russell Lowell.

    Those who do not remember their history are doomed to make really really bad decisions about what really happened in history and screw up in the present as a result…

  76. The True Nolan says:

    @ E.M.: “Those who do not remember their history are doomed to make really really bad decisions about what really happened in history and screw up in the present as a result…”

    No need to go into a lot of details, but about 15 years ago I met an older woman who told me that students didn’t need to study math or history. Her reasons? “What good is math? What can you use it for?” and “They don’t need to learn about what happened. They need to study what the future will be.” She then told me, “I’ll tell you how I know. I’m a schoolteacher!”

  77. The True Nolan says:

    @ E.M.: “Racism causes climate change”

    That certainly explains why the temperatures were so much higher back in the 1930s. :)

  78. E.M.Smith says:

    A nice backgrounder on Myanmar and their Coup, even if a bit speculative:

    IMHO the “tell” will be if China gets kicked out, or gets more projects to complete in building out infrastructure. Then we will know if China “helped it happen”, or if was to counter Chinese “help”…

  79. E.M.Smith says:

    It is starting with the RINOs as we do our own “Long March through the institutions”


    Payback: Republicans who backed Trump impeachment face rising rebuke, including censure
    South Carolina GOP votes to censure Rep. Tom Rice after he voted for impeachment; others feel similar pressure.

    Republicans who have supported Donald Trump’s impeachment from South Dakota to South Carolina are getting a painful reminder of just how powerful the former president remains within the Republican Party ranks.

    Rep. Tom Rice was the latest to feel the wrath of Trump supporters when the South Carolina state GOP voted to censure him this weekend for his vote two weeks ago supporting the House Democrats impeachment article.

    “Trying to impeach a president, with a week left in his term, is never legitimate and is nothing more than a political kick on the way out the door,” state GOP Chairman Drew McKissick said after Saturday’s vote. “Congressman Rice’s vote unfortunately played right into the Democrats’ game, and the people in his district, and ultimately our State Executive Committee, wanted him to know they wholeheartedly disagree with his decision.”

  80. philjourdan says:

    7 of the 10 are already being primaried and it is 2 years until the next election! By that time, all 10 will be.

    Townhall had a puff piece on Cheney. Yes, those 10 will be wined and dined by fake news. For a short period. And they will be able to land a job with any of the beltway bandits. But the easy work is now over. They cut their throat.

  81. E.M.Smith says:

    This is an interesting take on the Special Nature of Texas:


    Texas was an independent country for 9 years before joining the United States, unlike California which was not recognized by other countries and immediately joined the United States. Texas was recognized by England, France and other European countries and had foreign embassies. In fact you can go to London today and see a placard that marks the site of the Republic of Texas Embassy.

    Texas entered the U.S. under a treaty signed by both countries. Under this treaty Texas retained certain rights not held by other states. Among these are the right to divide into 5 states without the permission of Congress, the State boundary extends offshore to the international boundary, the right to a Navy (which exists and consists of the Battleship Texas and is purely ceremonial now, being an Admiral in the Texas Navy is given as an honor by the State Legislature) and under international law the right to renounce the treaty if the State or Federal government so chooses.

    This treaty was upheld in modern times by the U.S. Supreme Court in the an offshore oil rights case in 1953 (?). During this case the Supreme Court accidentally came within 8 hours of actually throwing Texas out of the U.S.
    However the night before the ruling a law clerk in preparing the majority ruling did some research to determine the status of Texas if the treaty was invalidated and found out that legally Texas would no longer be part of the U.S. and by international law would revert back to its status as an independent country and could claim its original boundaries, not the current boundaries. The U.S. would be required to recognize the Republic of Texas and withdraw from Texas as rapidly as practical.

    I noted the “original boundaries” line and commented:

    “It’s worse than they thought”…

    That little line, ‘former borders’ is rather important.
    “The boundaries of the Texas territory were left unspecified. Four new states could ultimately be carved from the former republic”

    Were the Republic Of Texas to leave, it would take with it chunks of Oklahoma, New Mexico, a nibble of what I think is Kansas, then a strip of Colorado up to a chunk of Wyoming that’s a nibble out of the middle bottom.

    Oh would that be fun…

  82. philjourdan says:

    I am not the techo nerd you are. I get by with enough. But I am a history buff. And yes, I knew all this about Texas. I do not fancy myself as a Renaissance man, but history is my passion, and thus why I study it almost as much as the techno world (which does pay my salary). When Texas joined the union, due to the Missouri compromise, it had to retract its borders in order to maintain slavery. As you can see from the map, that does impact other states. And as Texas joined by Treaty (instead of by gun point for the other 36), it can seceded legally and successfully. Which means that without equivocation, at least one state that was penalized after the war of Northern Aggression, was unjustly done so (I think all were, but that is a matter of law – even though the signing statements of 3 states specifically reserved the right to secede).

    As an aside, I did read your single board PC warnings about China, And will follow them. But in that respect, I am your inferior.

    What I am surprised about is that Wiki has allowed the truth to remain up! Someone is going to get shitcanned for that slip up.

  83. Steven Fraser says:

    @EM: My thoughts on the topic of ‘DC Statehood’:
    1) Since the land was originally ceded from states, let them have most of it back, and whatever is not ceded back becomes the D of C. This addresses the concern for representation in Congress, without diluting the representation of the other states. It is my preferred solution, as it is the least intrusive.
    2) The smallest state in land area is Rhode Island, with 1,034 sq miles, and has a 2021 population of 1,061,510. DC is 68.34 square miles (does not extend across the Patomac River), and a population of a little more than 700,000. Making DC a state would dilute the power of the larger and more populous states, especially in the Senate. Since the change to direct election of Senators, there is no-one to represent the state legislatures, as was the original intent of the structure of Congress. If this power were company stock, DC statehood would be a punitive dilution of the interest of the other states.
    3) If this Congress can make DC a state without a Constitutional Amendment, a later Congress can undo it.
    4) If it occurs, the transition costs for building the state government will be extensive, and quite out-of-proportion with the population. To have a ‘Republican’ form of govt, as required by the Constitution, the proposed new state will need a Legislative Branch, a Judicial branch, and an Executive Branch. The City of Washington, which is now the largest in the District and Federally-chartered (by Congress), would need to be re-chartered by the new state, and would be subordinate to it. The new state will need to hold its own elections, eventually. Since states are usually organized into Counties, there would need to be one of those, as well, though Washington DC is already a ‘County Equivalent’, so that may persist, or the city might become an ‘Independent City’, as is the case with St. Louis, Baltimore and Carson City.
    5) DC is not a territory or state. All legislative precedent for incorporating a new states are from the status of ‘Territory’, from a pre-existing republic (Texas) or from sections of the pre-existing states, i.e., Maine (from Massachusetts), West Virginia (from Virginia), The Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 sets the number of Congressional Representatives at 435. This will either need to be changed, or an existing state will need to lose a representative. We will see if Virginia or Delaware locally take this well.
    6) There has been talk about State Mergers and splits, for reasons analogous to the split of WV from VA, which was political and geographical after the Civil War. If DC is going to become a state, the transaction should ideally be politically neutral, that is, the result should not make a difference in the balance of power. As I recall, over the years, sections of Colorado and California have discussed splitting off into separate states or joining others.

  84. jim2 says:

    When Texas joined the Union, it’s agreement included a clause that it could split into 5 states.

  85. E.M.Smith says:


    I say just take any land in D.C. that is NOT a Federal Building or surrounding one (i.e. all the residential land) and give it back to the respective States. I see no reason why ANYONE needs to be a “Resident of D.C.”; it only needs to hold Federal offices, monuments, and related non-residential stuff. (Possible exception of White House and Blair House…). Essentially the same as your point.

    I’ve sometimes pondered the utility of having any City / County with over X Million people become a State. So spit out the San Franciso Bay Area as a State and the L.A. Basin as a State. That, then, frees the rural parts of California to be their Conservative selves.

    The fundamental conflict is between conservative rural folks, and “progressive” urban rotting cores, so we ought to divide power along those lines in some way. As it is, the rural areas of a State become captive of the Urban as soon as they get a big enough Urban Metroplex. (See Texas turning “purple” as Dallas / Ft. Worth and Austin expand)

    Yes, the State of “Jefferson” has been proposed many times with various locations from N. Cal. to Idaho and more.

  86. cdquarles says:

    Originally, DC was 10 miles square (100 square miles), parts ceded from Virginia and parts from Maryland. The Virginia side was returned to it, so the southern edge ends at the Potomac River; though the influence now has spread heavily into the adjacent parts of northern Virginia. If the residents want to live in a state, they can cede as much back of the Maryland side back into Maryland, as needed.

    As noted, this has happened tremendously to Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and somewhat to Texas. Alabama is not nearly as dominated by Birmingham as Georgia is by Atlanta. Likewise, Tennessee isn’t as dominated by Memphis and Nashville, yet.

  87. The True Nolan says:

    @Steven Fraser: “If DC is going to become a state, the transaction should ideally be politically neutral, that is, the result should not make a difference in the balance of power.”

    (By the way, you made a very nice collection of points about statehood. I feel just a little bit smarter after reading it!)

    I don’t think there is any possible way to make DC a state and do it in a politically neutral way. The most fundamental split between Dems and Repubs (or liberals and conservatives, or urban and rural, etc.) is about the nature of Federal power. Dems look to bigger government and legislation as the solution to most problems. Repubs see big government as the problem more often than the solution. Any DC state which still retains the seat of Federal government will automatically have the administration of big government as the primary source of revenue, and can be expected to vote their own interest in Congress. In other words, unless the seat of government is moved elsewhere, statehood for DC is a win for Dems and a lose for Repubs.

  88. Steven Fraser says:

    @jim2: Here is the clause in the Act admitting Texas as a state in the Union: ‘Third — New States of convenient size not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas and having sufficient population, may, hereafter by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the Federal Constitution; ‘

  89. A C Osborn says:

    EM, have you seen the President Trump Impeachment Documents?
    They include the fact that he lied about election fraud.
    This would appear to leave it open to him presenting the data on election fraud.
    He should call Eric Coomer (of the Dominion training video) as a witness, play the Video of the 3 Georgia women putting the votes through the machine multiple times and ask him which part of the voting process it represents when using Dominion counting machines.

  90. H.R. says:

    @A C Osborn re the Shampeachment.

    There is no impeachment. There could be, if Dems cared to acknowledge that the Dems stole the election, Biden is not President, and Trump is still President. That would be a tad awkward, though.

    Also, Impeachment trials are political and not actually legal proceedings. All the normal rules of evidence and boundaries of prosecution/defense are at the whim of the majority party and the presiding judge, which would be the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court if this were an actual Constitutional impeachment (Roberts has already made clear the Shampeachment is unconstitutional). The Senate could just lay out the charges and vote and not allow President Trump any opportunity whatsoever to defend against the charges.

    So I’ve been reading the comments of the armchair lawyers and it’s split between advising President Trump showing up and maybe getting to present the facts or just ignoring the Shampeachment as the kangaroo court show trial it actually is.

    I lean heavily towards the “Ignore it all” camp.

  91. p.g.sharrow says:

    There is one other possibility.
    Time to spring the Trap. And retake control, present All the evidence to the American people and Try the Deep State partisipants

  92. E.M.Smith says:

    Look at the fraud and farce of what the Dimocrats did in the House where it was rammed through by quashing opposition and forbidding evidence while embracing lies for effect..

    The same party now runs the Senate. The trial will also be a farce devoid of justice and lawful process.

    Trump would not be allowed to present uncomfortable evidence. So the question becomes: Do you participate in a fraudulent Show Trial or blow raspberries at it? I think I’d send Rudy to just keep pointing at the absurdity of it. To every day have a press conference pointing at the sham bits and lies. Have a people’s hearing with RSBN covering it all live where the Trump evidence IS presented. Make it a Public Opinion event.

  93. p.g.sharrow says:

    Rudy, Trump etc are not required to present any thing, This is a National Security thing. The DNI and the Military Intelligence people need to take charge of that and present to the people the truth that the Courts refused to hear.
    The American people will Trust the Military to present a fair account of the affair.

  94. E.M.Smith says:

    It doesn’t say who the “them” was from which the shiny things were taken….

  95. p.g.sharrow says:

    Oh! yes that is true, Seems that Military Intelligence has been taking up collections from dirty Deep State Bankers around the world Making them offers that they couldn’t refuse for being involved in Human trafficking, pedophilia and acts of war against the United States. Fort Knox needed refilling. ;-)
    Have you seen all the high government and banking officials that have resigned or died over the last few months? Those in America are next on the list…pg

  96. p.g.sharrow says:

    My guess is that particular trove came out of the Vatican Bank

  97. E.M.Smith says:

    I’ve noticed a bunch of countries having churn of governments… but not watched for dead bankers or a parade of folks suddenly interested in quality time with the family…

    Basically I’ve been on a tech binge, post politics, rather than interested in banks.

    So “catch me up”? What countries / banks ought I look at? And what happened at the Vatican? Old Popey was still sermoning last I looked.

  98. E.M.Smith says:

    Looks like Canada is now Officially Insane Far Left:


    TORONTO – The Canadian government designated the Proud Boys group as a terrorist entity on Wednesday, noting they played a pivotal role in the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

    The Proud Boys have faced increased scrutiny after seizing on the former Trump administration’s policies and was a major agitator during earlier protests and the Capitol riot on Jan. 6. The Proud Boys is a far-right, male chauvinist extremist group known for engaging in violent clashes at political rallies. Canada is the first country to designate them as a terrorist entity.

    Sending money to the organization or
    buying Proud Boys paraphernalia would also be a crime.

    The government calls the Proud Boys a neo-fascist organization with semiautonomous chapters located in the United States, Canada, and internationally. It said it engages in political violence and that members espouse misogynistic, Islamophobic, anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, and white supremacist ideologies.

    OK, so now defending yourself against Antifa attacks, and saying Men are OK, Muslims have stated they want to kill us Infidels, and maybe folks ought to enter the country only in accordance with law is all “terrorist”? As, it would seem, buying the same shirts or hats as them …

    Yeah, Canada has gone nuts.


  99. philjourdan says:

    @AC Osborne – Re: Lies about Election Fraud.

    Actually, Coomer will just lie. But Matt Braynard says he has statistical (a science) proof that Biden lost AZ, GA and WI, enough to swing the election. And he is willing to present it. Even if he is not called as a witness, that proof will be entered in to the record.

  100. philjourdan says:

    And the AOC “Ballsey-Ford” story falls apart. Her office is NOT in the Capitol building, it is in a building 2 blocks away. So she is changing her story now. As more facts come out, I wonder how many more times she will have to lie to cover her initial lie. No protesters stormed her office building. So now she claims she was in the Capitol Building “Complex”.

    Fake news is not reporting this. But it is getting out. And facts are stubborn things even when the tech dictators want to deny them.


  101. Power Grab says:

    Well, isn’t she the one who got her job by answering a casting call?

    I believe lying is her stock in trade.

  102. philjourdan says:

    That is the one qualification for being a politician – lying. She just does it more poorly than most.

  103. Terry Jackson says:

    “On January 27, amidst media consensus that the “Proud Boys” and other right-wing organizations had organized the Capitol riots, a former federal prosecutor turned over federal court proceedings to Reuters showing that the Proud Boys’ national leader, one Enrique Tarrio, was “an informer for federal and local law enforcement.” But Tarrio was not at the Capitol riot. Nor is there any evidence that anyone in his organization did anything to organize it. This much is clear: the FBI knew everything that this little group was doing, and has had at least some hand in what the Proud Boys have and have not done.”


    Also, https://amgreatness.com/2021/02/02/start-by-boycotting-the-house/

    Also: ”
    As Norman Ornstein tweeted in 2018:

    “I want to repeat a statistic I use in every talk: By 2040 or so, 70 percent of Americans will live in 15 states. Meaning 30 percent will choose 70 senators. And the 30 percent will be older, whiter, more rural, more male than the 70 percent. Unsettling to say the least.”

    From https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/02/demography-and-destiny.php

  104. Ossqss says:

    And I wondered why ammo prices were out of control at the gun show this last weekend here. It is pretty insane right now just trying to buy a gun online or not, as much of everything is sold out. Been looking at the Springfield Hellcat and the Sig P365. Consolidating ammo types for interchangeable compatibility.

    Oh well, on to the incredible math. Epoch wanted a membership to read it so here ya go.


  105. Ossqss says:

    I would like to do the math on this without % and in raw numbers.

    From the article.

    “The 79 percent year-over-year increase, however, was NOT unprecedented—an even higher increase, of just over 100 percent, was experienced in January 2013, the month Mr. Obama’s second presidential term began,” he added.

  106. p.g.sharrow says:

    @EMSmith says;”It doesn’t say who the “them” was from which the shiny things were taken…”

    an explanation starts at the 49:00 mark

    There are several levels of “Banks” from street level retail to secret for the GRBs. so if the Clintons want their vast election donations of foundation fund to disappear, Jami Damon personally escorts the money from New York to Dubai and deposits it into a bank that the American Government can not touch. Other very secret banks like the Vatican hold vast muli generational wealth of the 8 Families that control the world banking system. Laundering the wealth off of governmental books to avoid scrutiny. Over the last year or so Military Intel. under orders have been confiscating this off the books wealth as ill gotten gains from criminal enterprises including child trafficking, pedophilia and slavery. Not only the physical wealth but also control over the great banks by the 8 banking families.

  107. p.g.sharrow says:

    @EMSmith; I see that it has been a long time since the ,
    has heard from it’s minister. …pg

  108. E.M.Smith says:

    Yeah, I was thinking about that recently. I’m getting my motivation back…

  109. H.R. says:

    Since it’s wide open… as near as I can figure, this month is the 12th Anniversary of my commenting here.

    The only thing remarkable about that is that I wasn’t banned 11 years and 11 months ago 😜

    We have a tolerant and longsuffering host, eh?

    Wait up. I’ve posted a couple of good comments. I know it for a fact. I counted both of them. 🤣🤣😎

  110. E.M.Smith says:


    There was a 2nd one?

    /snark; 8-)
    and a tee hee hee too ;-)

  111. H.R. says:

    Hey, hey, hey! Congrats on 12 years of good stuff.

    Tech stuff.

    Climate stuff.

    Economic stuff.

    Origins of man, the spread of humans throughout the World, civilization, and how it all might be contrary to academic ennui stuff.

    Fire, roasted meat, and fermented stuff.

    Just… all sorts of stuff!

    12 years of good, fun, interesting, entertaining, thought provoking and thought eliciting stuff.

    Nice going, Chief.

  112. E.M.Smith says:


    Well, hard, really, to realize it’s been a dozen years, but yes it has. Hopefully I’m good for another dozen.

    All I do is wait for something to tickle my fancy, then engage with it and post the results. (No, no video yet. My fancy is camera shy… ;-)

    I generally like what I like, and prefer to focus on just things that make me happy, that preserve truth and honesty, or that improve keeping a Tidy Mind. Or just stuff that was a surprise to the Tidy Mind and caused it to feel all tickled and interested in something.

    Then I’ll get to the end of a tiring (something) and just feel the need for fire-meets-meat, glass full of liquid distraction, and tunes. So that sometimes happens.

    Sort of a ‘stream of consciousness me’ with the worst bits edited out ;-)

    Whatever the next dozen brings, it will be with a sense of humour about the Human Condition, a sense of wonder at new things to know, and a fierce desire to “get it right”. Oh, and have some fun along the way too. Just because the world is ending is no reason not to enjoy a good wine, some music and a dancer, right?

  113. A C Osborn says:

    Steven Fraser says: 4 February 2021 at 8:18 pm
    @EM: GISS temp adjustments follow CO2.

    Yes it is OK when Anthony Watts posts on it but not Tony Heller.

  114. Steven Fraser says:

    @A C Osborn: I know of the work that our gracious host did a year ago to detail the adjustments by region, I am well aware of Tony Hellers work on this topic, and I check his site regularly, and post there from time to time. The reason I posted the link was to indicate that the idea has now been picked up by Watts Himself!

  115. YMMV says:

    Whatever the next dozen brings, it will be with a sense of humour about the Human Condition, a sense of wonder at new things to know, and a fierce desire to “get it right”. Oh, and have some fun along the way too. Just because the world is ending is no reason not to enjoy a good wine, some music and a dancer, right?

    I had to bold that. And say it again. Well put!

    “If music be the food of love, play on;”
    (Shakespeare, Twelfth Night)

    Play on!

    (This is for fun; I could comment on the politics, but I won’t)

  116. E.M.Smith says:


    The Time article is an attempt to whitewash the steal by spinning it as heroic saving of the nation. But it does at least lay out some of the key players (while avoiding all the behind the scenes puppet masters like Soros and Antifa / BLM coordinators).

    That’s why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it. And they believe the public needs to understand the system’s fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures.

    Just remove the preamble of “sounds like” and replace it with “was hard work to run” a well-funded cabal… and you get it right. Oh, and just remove “not” from “they were not rigging” and it’s truth. Then change “endures” to “appears to endure” and it’s all done.

  117. E.M.Smith says:

    A very useful introduction to the techniques used by the media to lie to you. 21 minutes:


  118. philjourdan says:

    @Steven Fraser and AC Osborn – re: adjustments following temperature trends.

    Several years ago (probably about 7 or 8), Dr. RA Brown of Duke posted on Watts up with that showing a statistical analysis of adjustments to temperatures and CO2 levels. He found a .99+ R2 value in the correlation! Watts knew it then. Heller then used Temperature delta in place of CO2 deltas and found the same thing. So yes, it is kind of a non story for Watts to have a eureka moment now. Most of us knew it long ago.

  119. Ossqss says:

    Well, this was interesting. I was simply searching for an item related to my 10-22 takedown receiver screws and this somehow came into the sights. Frankly, it is modified, but I was quite amazed at what the heck this dude stored in his actual gun. No BS, I was waiting for a DVD player to show up :-)

    I added a ~ to the link so it would not embed the video in the tread, so cut past and remove the ~ and see for yourself.


  120. Compu Gator says:

    Super Bowl [@] being broadcast today on Armed Forces Radio, via Westwood One Radio, to which I’m listening [🍺] as broadcast in Central Florida (“broadcast radio”?  How quaint! ).

    No reports yet of players blatantly dissin’ the U.S.A., e.g., by kneeling during that English drinkin’ song that was orchestrated into the U.S. “Star-Spangled Banner”.

    Flyover was combination of B-52 [🛧], B-1, and B-2.

    Then listeners were subjected to poëtry by the U.S. “Young Poet Laureate” Amanda Gorman (my previous reference to her was for identification only, not for woke promotion) [♠].

    Coin-toss seems to be by a “1st responder“, of which 7500 from the Tampa-Bay Area and Central Florida were awarded free admission.

    Game kick-off to Buccaneers was at 18:38 EST (23:38 GMT).

    The prerecorded interview by the Usurper-in-Chief will not be broadcast until half-time.

    Note @ : The venue is the main football stadium in the City of Tampa, not in Tampa Bay, any more than the 49ers ever played in San Francisco Bay. In fact, the latter’s Candlestick Park (which took its name from Candlestick Point in its Bay) was closer to its internationally famous body of water than Tampa’s 2 NFL stadiums were to the region’s own bay. Yes, a pet peeve. How could readers have guessed?

    Note 🛧 : Boeing B-52s: Sooo, the technical dinosaurs in aerospace engineering knew a few things about how to engineer, and the young’uns shouldn’t dismissed them as obsolete: They produced hundreds of aircraft worth keeping around. Since 1955, the USAF has continued to fly B-52s that were in new production only in 1952–1962, thus 69–59 years agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress.

    Note ♠ : “‘Unity With Purpose.’  Amanda Gorman and Michelle Obama Discuss Art, Identity and Optimism”.  February 4, 2021 6:56 AM EST:  https://time.com/5933596/amanda-gorman-michelle-obama-interview/. Previously cited by me, and misunderstood by readers:  https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/02/04/2-years-of-hell-or-what/#comment-139322.

    – – – – –

    {“Produced 1952–1962
    Number built 744

    The B-52 has been in service with the USAF since 1955.

  121. Ossqss says:

    So we had a hack on the water supply in a local municipality in West FL. This will make news and make national changes that have probably been needed for years. From what I have seen, a remote access application to the system was the issue. Remember Target and their thermostats?

    Just sayin, the more we depend on cloud tech, the more vulnerable.

  122. E.M.Smith says:

    I have never understood the desire to have internet connected thermostats, or pretty much any other physical plant stuff either. No good can come of it.

    My home thermostat is a 60 year old mercury glass ampule on a coil spring. Works fine. Set it at 72 and forget it for a few years…

    And water plants? What in heck needs an internet connection at a water plant?

    Set pumps to 50 psi pressure switch and change filters when the head pressure across them reads too high on a local gauge. Chlorination via titration and measuring gear doesn’t need internet either.

    Oh Well. I’ve been saying it for 40 years or so but nobody in the business seems to listen…

  123. jim2 says:

    EMS – yep, I’ve never had a smart phone and won’t allow any IOT things in my house. It’s funny that people like us who have this attitude tend to be programmer/IT types.

  124. jim2 says:

    The hacker briefly increased the amount of sodium hydroxide (lye) in Oldsmar’s water treatment system, but a worker spotted it and reversed the action.

    Lye is used in small amounts to control acidity but a large amount could have caused major problems in the water.

    Oldsmar Mayor Eric Seidel said: “There’s a bad actor out there.”

    No arrests have yet been made and it is not known if the hack was done from within the US or outside.


  125. E.M.Smith says:

    China Joe signing E.O’s that benefit China and put the USA at risk. Gee, who knew…


  126. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – 72? We be bakin! Right now ours is set at 57 and that is only because of the 6 week old kittens we have inside now.

    But you are correct, why have them on the internet? Most have the security of a wet napkin. It is stupid. But usually just a boneheaded over sight. They need local connectivity (to report issues) and everyone forgets to make sure they cannot NAT to the world.

  127. philjourdan says:

    @Jon K – yea, I am puzzled by that as well. It is very unTrump like. But never accept at face value what is behind the Trump move. I suspect greater forces at play. We shall see.

  128. jim2 says:

    Hey Phil – do you have any good recipes for those kittens?

  129. philjourdan says:

    As in what to feed them? Yes. Kitten milk and the Royal Canin Mother-kitten pate’ It is a Mouse so easy for them to eat and digest. And very expensive (but only recommended until 4 months old, so there is a time limit).

    As in what they taste good in? No way I am going there with the crazy cat lady looking over my shoulder!!! :-)

  130. Compu Gator says:

    Long-time residents of Oldsmar would be puzzled if they were to read their city being described as in “West FL”.  My reaction was “huh?  way up there?”  “West Florida” is generally considered nowadays [✪] to consist of the Panhandle, from the Alabama state line at the Perdido River (approx. 10 mi. W. of Pensacola), eastward to 1 of what’s most commonly a choice between 2 rivers:
    • Apalachicola River, which divided the British colonies West Florida and East Florida (1763–1783).[♒]; or
    • Suwannee River (which flows into the Gulf as the county line between several counties, incl. Dixie and Levy Cos. on the Gulf, approx. 15 mi. N. of Cedar Key).

    It could be said that Oldsmar is in “West Central Florida“,  so maybe the frequent commenter from the Sarasota-Bradenton area had an ooops! moment while drafting his alert for the new “W.O.O.D.” topic.

    For what ought to be the majority of Floridans, Oldsmar is a bayfront city in the Tampa Bay Area, in Pinellas Co., at or very near the Bay’s northwesternmost corner [♒♒]. The “-mar” is from the Latin word for “sea”, but the “Olds-” is for Ransom E. Olds, who founded the city as an independent real-estate development project (1916–1926) [🚘].

    I’ll concede that it’s pop psychology (which I typicaly disparage), but I wonder if Olds’ entrepreneuring independence & self-sufficiency influenced prevailing attitudes toward the water supply in the city he founded? Originally, water came from private wells or (private?) cisterns. But in the 1920s, a new city water tower delivered “sulphur water” to its residents. And now the water-utility cracking news [💧] has made it plain that the city still doesn’t provide its residents with water from the larger-scale water-supply network operated by Pinellas County for its municipalities. I can easily imagine a public meeting of the Oldsmar city commission/council now: “We could do that, but we’d need to increase your utilities bills“. Or “increase your property-taxes“.

    Note ✪ : I’m deliberately ignoring the historic “Republic of West Florida”.  It was situated along the Gulf, between the Perdido and Mississippi Rivers, thus including modern parts of Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana, but none of the modern State of Florida. The relationship between it and the U.S.A. was complicated because none of it was part of the Louisiana Purchase.

    Note ♒ : The Apalachicola River is the confluence of the Chattahochee River (which is the southern half of the border between Alabama and Georgia) and the Flint River (whose flow is entirely within Georgia).

    Note ♒♒ : Oldsmar fronts the N.W. arm of Tampa Bay, called Old Tampa Bay. The much better known City of Tampa grew to its present sprawl from a settlement on the smaller N.E. arm, called Hillsboro Bay (sic: no -ugh ending, unlike the river and county). I used a mid-20th-C. atlas to locate Oldsmar; the Wikipedia diagram showing it in N.E. Pinellas Co. provided no confidence for locating the city relative to the Bay shoreline:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmar,_Florida.

    Note 🚘 : He’s the Olds of Oldsmobile, who made his fortune as the engineer-entrepreneur who founded the Olds Motor Vehicle Company (1897).

    Note &#128167 : Probably as technical as we’ll be able to find, at least for now:
    ◾ Andy Greenberg: Security: “A Hacker Tried to Poison a Florida City’s Water Supply, Officials Say ⟨:⟩ The attacker upped sodium hydroxide levels in the Oldsmar, Florida, water supply to extremely dangerous levels”. WIRED, 02.08.2021 06:54; PM:  https://www.wired.com/story/oldsmar-florida-water-utility-hack/.&#160;
    ◾ For local knowledge, there’s the surviving major daily newspaper:
    ◽ Jack Evans: News / Pinellas: “Someone tried to poison Oldsmar’s water supply during hack, sheriff says”.  Tampa Bay Timeshttps://www.tampabay.com/news/pinellas/2021/02/08/someone-tried-to-poison-oldsmars-water-supply-during-hack-sheriff-says/?itm_source=parsely-api; and later
    ◽ Malena Carollo and Jack Evans: News / Pinellas: “Oldsmar’s water supply attack is a warning, experts say. It could’ve been worse”.  Tampa Bay Timeshttps://www.tampabay.com/news/pinellas/2021/02/10/oldsmars-water-supply-attack-is-a-warning-experts-say-it-couldve-been-worse/.

  131. H.R. says:

    OK. I can’t give a link, but Mrs. H.R. had me peek over her shoulder at a video she was watching.

    This guy is clearing the recent snow off his driveway with a flamethrower! How cool is that?

    It is fast! It works! I need to get a flamethrower.

    Wait up… We’re in Florida when the snow flies……………..

    Ahhhh, screw it. Everyone should have a flame thrower around the house. Ya never know when it might come in handy, at least to discourage door-to-door solicitations, if by chance you don’t already have a large, mean-looking dog for that purpose.
    Scene from The Pink Panther, “Does your dog bite?”

    Desk clerk: “No.”

    (mauling) “I thought you said your dog doesn’t bite!”

    Desk clerk: “It’s not my dog.”
    Our neighbors have a professionally trained German Shepard that they got to protect their two young boys and their property. The dog adopted us, our property, and our two little punting dogs.

    One day, someone came door-to-door selling I don’t know what. When I open the door, saw it was sales, and said “NO!”, the neighbor’s very large dog was about 15 feet behind the guy and not looking all that wiggly-waggly and friendly, if you know what I mean. Growling, actually.

    The guy says, “Is your dog going to bite? Can I leave?”

    I said, “You can leave. I hope it’ll be OK. It’s not our dog.”

    We’re semi-rural, lots are fair-sized, so the guy winds his way down our walk and the driveway, out to the street and on to the neighbor’s drive where he wends his way up their walkway, rings their doorbell only to be greeted by the same very large, growling dog who was even unhappier that the guy was at his real home.

    The dog had just cut across the lawns, asked to go in at his place, and then was right there at the neighbor’s front door to give his usual Cujo greeting to the solicitor when he made it to the neighbor’s house.

    Best I know from the neighbor’s account, the guy freaked a bit, left in a hurry, got in his car, and skipped covering the rest of the neighborhood.

  132. E.M.Smith says:

    Once upon a time, long long ago, when in high school…

    I came to understand the inner workings of a 5 gallon Propane Tank. Which lead to understanding that if inverted, a 1/4 inch stream of liquid propane would shoot out about 12 feet in front of you, vaporizing as it went. (This doesn’t work now as the new tanks have anti-tip valves… so I’ve saved an old one ;-)

    Well, a nice long fireplace match or similar ignition source, applied as the valve is opened, leads to a VERY spectacular display of Fire Tongue and Fire Ball at the end where it finally turns skyward as the heat gets it expanded a lot.

    On another occasion, I plumbed (with copper tubing) the propane tank outlet to under the scrap wood and junk pile in the large garden. Made for very nice and complete ignition of the “burn pile”. (Now, no doubt, illegal, but then quite normal).

    Yeah, a commercial flame thrower might be better now ;-)

    500,000 BTU weed burner. $56:


  133. Ossqss says:

    Soooo, what exactly does organic mean now days. I see so many commercials referencing such, but what does it mean? What is not organic, may be a better question>

  134. H.R. says:

    I happen to like inorganic foods 😜

    I sense economic opportunity here, yes? Grocery stores, fast food franchises, upscale restaurants all catering to the rebellious demographic, who have been dumbed down to the point that it will make sense to their skulls full of mush.

    I think I’ll start with inorganic candy and inorganic breakfast cereal. Oh, and inorganic pizza.

  135. E.M.Smith says:

    I use a lot of inorganic salt….

    BTW, watching Johnny Carson circa 1986 rerun w/ Joan Rivers. Just OMG what a HOOT, 100% not PC in any way, and loving it!

    One line from Joan, after Johnny said men are interested in a woman’s mind (likely a set up straight line):

    “Come on Johnny; no man ever put his hand up a woman’s dress looking for a library card!”

  136. llanfar says:

    Not all salts are the same… many have micro plastics. Runtime 4:31 https://youtu.be/3AkZN4FFDLE

  137. llanfar says:

    Crap. Looking for an edit button…

    Some table salts even contain aluminum and/or sugar.

  138. H.R. says:

    @llanfar – Hey, how’s the shoulder coming along?
    On the Rocky and Bullwinkle show, in the weekly serial, one evil plot they introduced that always stuck with me was the “Metal Munching Moon Mice.”

    Whenever I contemplate inorganic food, the moon mice always pop into mind.


  139. H.R. says:

    A hastily called meeting for the Chiefio Blog 2021 Ice Fair and Dodgy Proceedings at the Florida hideout, dance hall, saloon regional headquarters is scheduled for this afternoon.

    BYOB (Bring Your Own Bait)

    Apologies for the short notice.

  140. Compu Gator says:

    Well, Hey-ell!  Auto-repair issues require me to send my regrets.

    In general, the Chiefio blog will be spared an introduction to me i.r.l. until I get an oil leak remedied [🌢], which I can’t have done until my next arrival of fixed income. At least I now know that the cumulative amount of the oil leak that’s limited my travel for several months depends on distance operated, not on time since oil added.

    Note 🌢 : Replacement of an engine valve-cover gasket. The leak followed a (complete) oil change in my bleepingpreöwnedlemon by a suspiciously short number of weeks.

  141. Steve C says:

    @llanfar – One year while I was working at school, we had a party of visitors from a German school. Teachers and kids were put up by our families, with their teachers invited to use the school as a base. One evening, having made themselves a meal, they couldn’t find the salt.

    But they found somethig called Epsom salt …

  142. H.R. says:

    Doesn’t “preowned” mean a new car? 😜

    I was led to believe that “pre” meant before, so buying a preowned car would mean you bought a car before it was ever owned by someone; a new car.

    Yes, okay, okay. I know “preowned” is a used car and the “pre” is short for “previously.” I remember reading an article about that subtle shift in language to shift public perception at the time it started. That was quite some time ago. maybe in the ’80s?

    I forget what the auto industry crisis du jour was, but dealers were having trouble moving used cars and all the “used cars” on the back lot suddenly became preowned.

    The other ones dealers have been using is “off lease” as in “this car just came off lease,” and “program car”, which is supposed to make you think the automaker had several hundred cars that the executives just drove around to check out and get familiar with the new models. Used is used, no matter how it got that way.

    New is new up to about 10 or 20 miles allowed for test drives and moving the car around a bit.

    So the next time you’re shopping for a used car, be sure to use the term “used car” when talking about it to the salesperson as a counter to the terms they will use. It’s the equivalent of a horse trader buying a horse and pointing out the deficiencies to get the price down. It is only a small amount of leverage, but it is leverage.

  143. philjourdan says:

    @H.R. – I WANT A FLAME THROWER!!!!!!

    Screw Ms. Jourdan! I am getting one! SHe can have her diamonds, I will make them with my flame thrower! :-)

  144. philjourdan says:

    @EMS, via OSSQSS – re: Organic.

    Pay more for poorer quality goods. That is what Organic means.

  145. The True Nolan says:

    Regarding the propane flame thrower — I have one of the cheap Harbor Freight versions. I think I paid less than $20 maybe 8 years ago and it is GREAT! Roars like a miniature rocket engine if you give it a lot of gas. Start a camp fire really quick! Mostly I use it for weeds. There used to be a lot of poison ivy around my cabin. I wait until it has rained, or (even better) is still raining a bit. Walk around with the tank and flame thrower and scorch all the weeds. You don’t need to carbonize them — just about five seconds or so, enough to wilt them and damage them beyond regrowth, and trust me, about five seconds will do it. They may come back from the roots, but do it a couple times and you can wear them out.

  146. E.M.Smith says:

    Dinner out? Looks like it’s time to go to Cracker Barrel:



    I know it’s 1/2 in jest and half correct, but I think I need to point out a bit of reality.

    For MANY “Organic” farm products, the quality is as good, or even better. Remember that prior to about 1920 ALL farming was “Organic”.

    THE big differential is the labor cost. That’s it, IMHO. It just takes one heck of a lot more labor to grow an “organic certified” crop. Using flame weed eaters by hand is a LOT more expensive than a whole-of-crop spray of Roundup or a BT Toxin genetically in every cell corn plant. But it IS just as effective and the crop is just as good. But labor costs will be somewhere between 10 x and 100 x as much.

    I regularly buy bags of rice from an Organic Rice Farmer from near my old home town. Not because I give a damn about “organic certified” but because his quality is better. Just damn fine rice. Similarly, a neighbor had a “share” of an Organic Farm Coop about 30 miles south of us. I went to their annual picnic / potluck that thanks their customers / share buyers. Got a very close up and personal tour of the farm and description of what they did and how they did it. And the labor cost issue… and the flame weeding (saw it in progress…). But I’ve got to say, they made some very fine vegetables with better flavor than at the local market. (Then again, they were picked fresh same day, not warehoused for a month in cold storage before shipping 500 miles…)

    Do I buy “organic” stuff? Not usually. I can usually find “clean enough” without resorting to the higher priced stuff. But sometimes. Some particular things are just worth it.

    At the same time, a LOT of stuff that complies with the Organic Food Labeling requirements are just not that good. Especially in lower end grocery stores where it’s not a goal, but just a checkbox. They get the stuff that didn’t sell to the folks who really care about the food quality. So it goes.

    So for those kinds of stores and those products, yeah, pay more for less of interest. But my best guess is they are about 1/4 of the “Organic Food” Market share. The bulk of it goes to higher end specialty stores (Whole Foods, Sprouts,…) and there the quality is very good. (And the price can be eye-watering…)

    A fully engaged intensive Organic Farm can raise more produce per acre, and better produce, than an industrial chemical based farm. What it can’t do is keep prices lower, use the same or less labor, or compete in commodity products (grains, beans, …) where all that matters is price. “Field crops”. Only one I’ve seen ‘make it’ is a rice grower. Then again, the whole point of flooding rice fields is weed control without chemicals (rice does NOT need to be flooded…) so all he’s done is be more precise in how he uses the flood so he doesn’t need to do algicides et. al. For bulk corn, soybeans, any animal feed, it is just a huge price differential and nobody will pay up if they don’t have to.

    Ok, go ahead and make the digs at organic and do the jokes. Just know that the reality is different. A very nice yield of very good products is available, with superior quality. That quality comes largely from the constant attention from humans that is what makes the price go way high, though…

    As one interesting example (Hey, I’m from a rice growing town, OK, I spent my first decades all about rice farming… I come by the fixation honestly as it was one of 2 major local crops…) is the System Of Rice Intensification. They get more yield of arguably better crops than anyone else. All because it intensifies the process with LABOR…


    The System of Rice Intensification (SRI) is a farming methodology aimed at increasing the yield of rice produced in farming. It is a low-water, labor-intensive method that uses younger seedlings singly spaced and typically hand weeded with special tools. It was developed in 1983 by the French Jesuit Father Henri de Laulanié in Madagascar. The system was not fully tested and spread throughout the rice growing regions of the world until some years later, with the help of Cornell University and others.

    History and main ideas
    The practices that culminated in SRI began in the 1960s based on Fr. de Laulanie’s observations. Principles included applying a minimum quantity of water and the individual transplanting of very young seedlings in a square pattern.

    SRI concepts and practices have continued to evolve as they are being adapted to rain-fed (unirrigated) environments and with transplanting being sometimes replaced by direct-seeding. The central principles of SRI according to Cornell researchers are:

    Rice field soils should be kept moist rather than continuously saturated, minimizing anaerobic conditions, as this improves root growth and supports the growth and diversity of aerobic soil organisms.

    Rice plants should be planted singly and widely spaced to permit root and canopy growth to keep all leaves photosynthetically active.

    Rice seedlings should be transplanted when young, less than 15 days old with just two leaves, quickly, shallowly, and carefully, to avoid trauma to roots and minimize transplant shock.

    Note the complete lack of mechanization and chemicals…

    A review of the literature led researchers at Cornell to conclude that SRI, on average, increased yields 20 to 200%, improved resistance to environmental stresses, and increased carbon sink activity while reducing emissions, making it a triple-win for agriculture, climate security, and food security.

    There’s a bunch of complaints in the Wiki about it not being 100% certified and peer reviewed when some farmers claim to have had 10x improvements in yields, or even up to 20+ tons / hectare. Yet a whole lot of farmers are doing much better now and getting more rice to sell by doing it, so something works.

    Similar things can be done with most crops, BTW.

    It is VERY important to realize that farms are NOT run for maximum yield. They are run for maximum profit, and that often comes at a small loss of yield with a big reduction in cost of labor.

    Oh, and on chemical fertilizers:

    I like them and use them, but the food quality suffers. A plant juiced on a lot of nitrogen and phosphorus just doesn’t have as intense a flavor as those who have to work at it a bit more in compost. You see this in wine too. The best wine comes from grapes that are not too heavily fertilized and run a bit on the dry side. It intensifies the flavors at the expense of volume and sugars…

    So it’s a farmers choice. Extra fertilizer and volume of crop, or just the right amount and a very flavorful crop, but less of it. Commercial chemical farms tend to the former (thus our flavorless lettuce and celery and carrots that taste dull) while organic farmers are pretty much pushed into the latter via compost (thus the more intense flavors in things like strawberries and even the radishes have more bite…).

    Sidebar On Me:

    Once again, I’m arguing for the “reasonable middle”. I expect this will manage to piss of folks on both sides of the “Organic” choice. Damning with faint praise while also semi-endorsing gets nobody on your “side”, as it isn’t a side, it is in no-man’s-land between the trenches…

  147. Ossqss says:

    Organic is not feeding the world. Just sayin….

    Now on another note, somebody needs to ask HR how the Lizard Bait beer hid his keys today at the formally unauthorized meeting :-)

  148. Compu Gator says:

    I agree with ‘H.R.’ (10 February 2021 at 5:57 pm GMT) about the mistaken or deceptive etymology of “preöwned“.  But please do notice my deliberate styling of that sales term:
    • I italicized it, to indicate it being a term of art (to the extent that the word “art” is ever justified by sales jargon), and
    • enclosed it in quotes, indicating my attitude of skepticism & disapproval toward it [👻].

    The Latin preposition meaning “before“,  which seems to be widely assumed to be the origin of the English prefix, is not “pre”; instead, it’s “prae“. It can mean “before” in the senses of either time or place. As can the Latin preposition “ante“,  which scuttles my intended example (deleted before commenting). Sigh.

    Inferring a linguistic challenge that acepts Latin-English mongrels, I offer these:
    • “ĭterumöwned“,  where the Latin adverb “ĭterum” means “again” or “a 2nd time”,  thus “owned again”. Doesn’t quite seem to roll off the tongue, does it? 
    • “rĕ(d)öwned“,  where the Latin prefix (formally an inseparable particle) “rĕ(d)-” can (but does not necessarily) mean “again”. I’d expect this word would be chosen, both for its brevity and the familiarity of the prefix to native speakers of English.
    Of course, salesmen wouldn’t accept either; they strive for murkiness or outright deception in language, not clarity.

    Note 👻 : Quotes used to signify skepticism, sarcasm, and doubt are known in copy-editing as scare quotes (thus the Unicode ‘ghost’ as my reference-mark).

  149. Simon Derricutt says:

    Compu Gator – That problem of oil-leak on the rocker-cover probably doesn’t need a new gasket. It’s most likely that the gasket has flopped out on one side (through careless re-assembly) and that simply taking the rocker-cover off, reseating the gasket, and re-assembling it will fix the leak. If the gasket has a line compressed into it, then adding a bit of “instant gasket” (a silicone goo that sets to a rubbery stuff on exposure to air, with a tube of it costing less than $10) on the compression line will fill the depression nicely. I’ve had to do this with my father-in-law’s car last year.

    It’s a pretty frequent problem, basically because the design is pretty marginal, and if you don’t check for the gasket being misplaced each time you put the rocker-cover back it can easily happen. It becomes far less likely to happen if you use the instant gasket goo to stick the gasket into its groove when you have the bits disassembled, and then re-assemble (carefully) before the goo sets. The light coating of oil in the groove means that you can easily replace the gasket later, but sticks well-enough to keep it safely in place if you knock the gasket on the rockers etc. during reassembly later on.

    I’ve found the instant gasket goo to be rather useful when it comes to fixing gaskets on old motors where getting new ones is a bit tricky, such as the tractor which was built in 1959 so spares are a bit difficult.

  150. H.R. says:

    I’ll give a report on the Winter Fair and Dodgy Proceedings sometime later today or this evening. I’m going fishing right now.

    Ossqss’ Administrative Assistant and Head of Security recorded the minutes of the meeting but lost them somehow when he got distracted by turtles.

    I’ll do the best I can to recreate the minutes.

  151. The True Nolan says:

    @ E.M. “So it’s a farmers choice. Extra fertilizer and volume of crop, or just the right amount and a very flavorful crop, but less of it.”

    Speaking solely about the immediate consequences, yes, that is the choice. What worries me more about “chemicals vs organics” is what the long term effects will be. Productive soil is (or at least has been in the past) a community of living organisms. The heavy use of modern chemicals disrupts that community in ways that appear to decrease its future ability to produce crops. Whether those chemically treated crops disrupt human life is another subject, and definitely not a simple matter of yes or no.

    Modern chemical agriculture has produced food in an abundance which the world has never before seen — but for how long?

  152. E.M.Smith says:


    The “good news” is that we have 2 very viable alternative paths to the present “soil mining” approach of chemical ag.

    1) Hydroponics. Currently going gang busters for all the non-grain non-animal feed real human food produce. Can feed the world for a few hundred more years before things like availability of phosphorus requires some exotic techniques.

    2) Compost is your friend. The current crop of “Organic” farmers have to set a field aside for non-chemical use for something like 5 years before they can apply for organic certification on that soil / crop. During that time, they ‘remediate’ the soil with various methods of improvement. This includes applying compost (or animal poo…) from other farm operations AND it can include ‘green manure’ where you grow a crop like clover just to plow it under and let it enrich the soil. In fairly short order the returns the soil to being full of living organisms, and makes it a very rich soil again.

    I’ve done something very much like #2 on the back yard garden. Turning rather heavy clay and sand “builders soil” into nice “garden loam” in about 2 years, just with incorporating composed weeds and lawn clippings and the occasional batch of fall leaves. It really isn’t hard. Just put old plant stuff in the dirt, moisten it, and wait. After a few months the worms show up and then it is really off to the races. Those little guys till it down to about 3 feet taking the top dressing with them.

    There’s even a variation on this where you just cover relatively ‘dead’ soil with a layer of cardboard, then lawn clippings / leaves / stuff and wet it down. Worms eventually do all the rest. (Oh, and you can grow stuff like potatoes and garlic in it with just a little added bag-o-soil if you like, so it isn’t necessary to be idle for a year+)

    So yeah it is kind of an issue, maybe. But one where we’ve got a few simple and cheap ways to deal with it ‘when the day comes’.

    Oh, and also note this isn’t a problem for ALL present agriculture. Mostly just the Corn and Soybean belts. Take California Fruit Orchards for instance. Weeds grow and get disked under every year. Some fertilizers added but not to excess (trees get a lot from deeper soil levels). Soil tends to stay fine. Similarly rice fields. Just not much change year over year. Or pastures. Or range land. Or…

  153. The True Nolan says:

    @E.M. :”2) Compost is your friend. ”

    Yes, and fungi as well. My backyard garden is currently covered with about 4 inches of mulched leaves and an inch or so of mixed snow and ice. As soon as things warm up a bit I hope to till the leaves in. Assuming I can replace the engine on the old broken tiller I bought…

    As for the animal manure, one of my favorite YouTube gardeners https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn0P1Q-lAsIwnIM8wDPCg_g
    reported last year about a problem he had with a big load of horse manure. He put it on his garden and nothing grew properly. Turns out there is at least one new form of herbicide which processes through the soil, through the plants, and through the horse into a manure that prevents plant growth. He is hoping that in another year or two the manured area will regain fertility. I think this is the same stuff reported here:
    The law of unintended consequences strikes again!

    I have grown hydroponic plants before and while it really does work quite well, the expense was rather high for the small scale I was using — at least it was 15 years ago. Maybe prices have dropped with hydroponics becoming more popular. At the time I did some back of the envelope calculations on how large an area would be needed if one used high intensity hydroponics for producing ALL the vegetables in the US. Not grains, not rice, wheat, corn, etc., just the veggies, grown in massive year round green houses. The answer? Quite a bit smaller than you might think — roughly one decent sized county, maybe 20 or 30 miles square.

  154. YMMV says:

    The True Nolan: “Regarding the propane flame thrower”

    I’m convinced some weeds are immortal.

    What is the green-approved non-fossil-fuel replacement for the propane torch?

    A big magnifying glass, so you can focus the solar power onto each weed.

    Pass the torch.

  155. E.M.Smith says:

    Last I heard the propane burner was fine, but it is fossil fueled, so who knows.

    FWIW, if you run biological oils through a cat cracker as can be (and sometimes is) done to make bio-diesel, you get a propane stream off of it, so one supposes there might arise an “Organic Propane” niche market…

    There are also liquid fueled torches (such as gasoline) that could easily be made to burn ethanol. (Though it is highly unlikely they could be used to keep the weeds down in a corn field while not consuming more ethanol than the field could produce… )

    Interesting problem. Glad it isn’t mine ;-)

    In my old home town, the old approved method of controlling rice pests was to burn off the rice stubble after harvest. Due to nutty California rules, that was forbidden. The problem is that Rice Straw is particularly strong and rich in things like silica compounds and so does not decay well on its own, plus, if you do the ‘wet and rot’ process for too long, you eventually build up rice pests in the soil and can’t grow a crop.

    So last I checked, IFF you showed certain indicia of “Toy Broke” on ability to grow rice effectively in a given field, then you could burn off some of it. IIRC it worked out to something like once every 4th year…

    About 1980? I saw a large towed appliance rather like a big area disc being pulled behind a tractor. Propane driven flames all under it. It was an attempt to make a “burn the stubble without smoke” appliance as the rule changes were coming… Don’t know whatever came of it. Imagine a square array about 15 to 20 feet on a side, with burner cans pointing downward about every 2 feet. I loved it ;-)

  156. p.g.sharrow says:

    Back in the OLD days of farming Rice in California, 1950s they rotated rice, with small grains and Alfalfa, but then Crop subsidies and allotments came in and any farmer that grew rice in the correct year got the allotment and subsidy and got rich and his other crop growing neighbors lost out and got nothing for their good husbandry.

  157. Ossqss says:

    “I’m convinced some weeds are immortal.”

    I can say the Brazilian Pepper tree is right there. I spoke to some folks working on Alligator Alley assigned to kill the invasive things, and the could not do such with all known means at the time. They literally had to dig up all the soil in the area and burn and put it back to kill them without them coming back. Apparently they have a very extensive root system that put out new trees (if they are actually trees) all along it. I believe they called them immortal also when no chemical would kill the whole system.

  158. The True Nolan says:

    “What is the green-approved non-fossil-fuel replacement for the propane torch?”

    I tried disconnecting the tank and just running the hose down the back of my shorts but apparently I don’t have the correct diet.

  159. The True Nolan says:

    @E.M. ” I saw a large towed appliance rather like a big area disc being pulled behind a tractor. ”

    I do not know whether it was used successfully, but back in the late 1960s I read a patent for an electrified version of something similar. The device had a trailing electrical ground and used water jets with a fairly high voltage on them. The theory was that the plants were les susceptible to electric shock than the insects, so it used enough power to kill the bugs but not the plants. Would it work? Inquiring minds want to know. I suspect it didn’t — if it did, it is so simple that we would probably see some of them around.

  160. E.M.Smith says:


    Jumping Bugs Batman!


    Sounds like a fun idea!

    Per Brexit:

    Looks like shipping is going well and the EU is being a PITA trying to break things:

  161. llanfar says:

    @H.R. “Hey, how’s the shoulder coming along?”

    Slowly but surely. PT has me doing wall crawls, which after 2.5 years not raising that shoulder is quite difficult. But no pain save when sleeping… and that is diminishing (and helped with Advil, Gabapentin, and… a bit of “herb” some nights). The other PT exercises involving the biceps are easy…

  162. H.R. says:

    Minutes of the Chiefio Blog Winter Ice Fair and Dodgy Proceedings

    The meeting was held at the hideout Headquarters of the Central Florida Chapter of The Chiefio’s Blog. The meeting was called to order at 3:00 pm EST. Attendance was sparse due to the short notice, but a couple of bald eagles, an alligator, and turtles too numerous to record all of their names, although Timmy the Turtle was there, bless his poor ol’ heart.

    A display of Medieval Weaponry was laid out for the members to examine. There was a war hammer made from a railroad spike, a large slicing knife suitable for taking out tendons or inflicting fatal wounds in the neck area, a short quarterstaff (more like about 7 cents than a quarter), and a nearly unique abrasive weapon of which only two are known to exist.

    The assemblage retired to the hideout’s Headquarters’ fishing pier but it was soon determined that it was a bit early for the fish to be biting. A vote was taken and all attendees were in favor of forming up a processional and heading to Jigg’s Fish Camp and Landing where the Winter Ice Fair was to be held.

    Upon arriving at Jigg’s Landing, attendees began the festivities by ordering the official beer of the Winter Ice Fair, Iguana Bait draft (excellent stuff!). It was a good thing the attendees started on the beer first thing because, imagine our surprise when we found there was NO ICE on the lake for the Ice Fair. WT?!?

    It has been a cold winter in Central Florida, but alas, just not quite cold enough to hold the Ice Fair this year. The attendees nursed their disappointment with a few more rounds of Iguana Bait draft and amused themselves by watching the teams launch their craft for a fishing competition which happened to coincide with the Ice Fair. The Amish team (yes, really) looked like strong contenders, but we did not remain for the weigh-in.

    After enough Iguana Bait draft beer to calm everyone down to being merely sulky and not hoppin’ mad over the lack of ice on the lake, the members regrouped and headed back to the hideout Headquarters and a better chance at catching some fish.

    A good 45 minutes of fishing yielded… nothing more than maybe a bite – we think – it being hotly debated whether or not it really had been a bite.

    —To be continued—

  163. E.M.Smith says:

    “and a nearly unique abrasive weapon ”

    Reminds me of an old girl friend’s verbalizing….

  164. philjourdan says:

    @H.R. – I work for a large company. But there is a small group of us that worked for a smaller company that got bought by the bigger company 5 years ago. So we maintain a “cabal” even though we work in different silos (we are all Network).

    One of us lives in South FLA. The other 3 of us live in CVA (central Virginia). But we have our own chat group on teams, even though we are on separate (management idiocy) silos.

    But the one thing we do laugh about is “it is raining Iguanas”. Weather gets cold in SFLA, and iguanas fall from trees! But now we have to add “it is raining squirrels”. Yep! I was walking to the mailbox and heard a thump. Thought it was a dead tree branch falling, but then through the corner of my eye, I saw it jump up and run back UP the tree!

    So you have raining iguanas. We have raining squirrels! And still no takers on my multiplying cats! :-)

    I am reminded of GB II.

  165. H.R. says:

    Minutes (Continued)

    Since the fishing sucked and the mosquito’s were forming squadrons for the evening attack and feeding frenzy, the attendees returned to the hideout Headquarters for the closing Awards Ceremony.

    The Central Florida Chapter Grand Poobah, Ossqss, was presented with the second known example of the very deadly Medieval Abrasive Weapon.

    Out-of-town visiting member, H.R., from the Midwest Chapter of the Chiefio Blog Denizens of Questionable Pursuits was presented with an official Chiefio’s Blog Combination Tactical Flashlight and Acme Planet Disintegrator (everyone should have one… just in case).

    The meeting was then adjourned and as H.R. attempted to leave, he discovered his truck key and door lock fob was missing. It was not a major concern, since H.R. carries a spare ignition key for just such an event.

    A thorough search of the hideout Headquarters did not turn up the key, nor did a search of the processional vehicle, the fishing pier, nor H.R.’s pockets, which yielded no sign of the key and fob.

    There was a distinct possibility that the key had fallen out of H.R.’s pocket at Jigg’s Landing. Jigg’s landing was closed for the night, So Ossqss and H.R. laid out a plan to search the Landing after dark. The team geared up in Night TAC OP gear, blackened our faces, and made our way to Jigg’s Landing. There was a formidable wall surrounding the property and security was tight. Ossqss managed to find a weak spot in the perimeter, scaled the wall, and made his way to the spot where the key was most likely to be while H.R. kept the truck running in blackout mode for a quick getaway, should the team be discovered and backup security would swarm the grounds.

    No luck at Jigg’s landing, either. Ossqss worked his way back to the getaway vehicle without being discovered and the team made a stealthy retreat to the hideout Headquarters.

    Since H.R. had a backup key, he decided to leave and Ossqss planned to go to Jigg’s Landing, incognito of course, and ask if someone had found and turned in the fob and key. Plans made, H.R. took his leave.

    On the way back to base camp, while getting his wallet out of a cargo pocket for toll money for the Sunshine Skyway, the key and fob fell out from the fold in the wallet! It seems the only pocket that H.R. neglected to empty at the hideout Headquarters was the one containing his wallet. Oh, he had patted it down, but no key and fob was felt.

    Ossqss was apprised of the find and expressed hi relief that the missing key had been found. He did sound a little disappointed though, because he would not be able to use the disguise he was planning to wear to Jigg’s landing on the following day.

    That concludes the account of the 2021 Chiefio Blog Winter Ice Fair and Dodgy Proceedings.

  166. YMMV says:

    Did the Wuhan flu come from Wuhan? Is the pope Catholic?
    A Chinese researcher in Canada sent samples of deadly viruses back to China “to a laboratory in China that does dangerous gain of function experiments. And that has links to the Chinese military.”

    I missed the part about why China has labs for “research that involves manipulating viruses in the lab to explore their potential for infecting humans” and why it was funded by NIAID and Fauci.

    Chinese virologist Shi Zhengli is seen inside the P4 laboratory in Wuhan:


  167. Ossqss says:

    Tidbit to share.

    Was charging a battery for my Zuma that appeared to be in its final moments. Would not charge past 12.4 volts on my Super Brain 977 or 989 charger or my Stanley 40 amp de-sulfating charger. Just to check, I used my volt meter and was showing 13 plus volts when the others were showing less than 12 after a bit. Puzzling frankly, until I checked the battery in the volt meter, which was very low and needed replaced. Bazinga, it was dead nuts on once a new 9v was in it. Never experienced that before with a VM. Lesson learned, if it don’t look or feel right, it probably ain’t.

  168. The True Nolan says:

    @Ossqss “Lesson learned, if it don’t look or feel right, it probably ain’t.”

    Some decades back I was doing a bit of very minor carpentry at home cutting a 2X4 for use in the basement. Measured (carefully) the point of installation, went upstairs to shop area, cut wood, took it to basement and found it was the wrong length. Went through several variations on “wrong length! dammit!” before I realized that I was using two different tape measures, and one of them was (somehow) stretched and no longer accurate. Stuff happens!

    Another time, I was doing repair on a quite complicated piece of motors/solenoids/optical sensors/software and could not get new part to work. Wiring good, voltages good, etc. but the new part would not work. It was OK when in another machine though. The problem? These particular machines had a built in diagnostic routine which allowed parts to be tested before putting machine back into service. That particular machine had a corrupted diagnostic program. All other tests worked normally, but test for that specific part was non-op. Put the machine in service and it worked fine. Yes, stuff happens…

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