W.O.O.D. – 7 Mar 2021


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:

and remains open for threads running there (at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

“Stuff” Happens

Or “You are not paranoid when they ARE out to get you” department…

I was looking around for online copies / PDFs of the Dr. Seuss books that have been removed from print. They are out there as copyright expired a while back.

Downloaded them… BUT… they did not show up on my desktop. Even opening a terminal window and doing an “ls” or “ls -a” didn’t show them. WT?

At this point there’s a few possibles. Corrupt file system. “Hidden” files by the provider trying to be ‘cute’. Even malware hack in progress.

Watching HTOP, not much happening. Disk “blinky light” seems a little more active than I’d expect, OTOH I’ve got swap on it so it does tend to be active. All this is on the Odroid N2.

On the Chromium Downloads page I can see them. Clicking the “show in file manager” (or whatever the exact text is) does open it. I can open them in some programs (like GIMP) but then saving another copy of it from GIMP fails to have that show up on the desktop.

Even login as root, dismount file system and do an “fsck” doesn’t find anything wrong with the disk.

I do a logout / login as me again. At that point HTOP shows a brief episode of rsync running. To the best of my knowledge I have NO rsync process (but maybe SystemD does? It does strange things…) but suspicion is mounting.

So I’ve just shut it down cold.

This is S.O.P. for me. IF something odd is happening, just pull the plug once you are not sure what it is.

For now, the Odroid N2 is “cold metal” as is the disk on it.

What next?

Well, first off, this is where having a lot of my disks “shut off all the time” is very nice. IF any damage was done / will be done, it is highly limited. I’ve used the N2 as a daily desktop for a few months, but that’s it. Random browsing history may be lost. Potentially some saved memes, gifs, pdfs and a few saved videos. Not really much else.

A lot of stuff was done on “other machines” too. So all that is isolated and safe. (Now you know why you see me occasionally saying “and now I’m on the Foo Box!”…) The N2 is on the workbench along with the disk. I’ve moved the RockPro64 / Armbian back to Daily Driver. (My main ‘daily driver’ of many many months, the Odroid XU4 has been off for a few weeks now, so all that is isolated too).

I’d made 3 chips for the RockPro64. Two are Armbian (one of them an Armbian Ubuntu) and one is a Devuan Buster. The Buster is the most pristine, but I’m presently running the Armbian Ubuntu. I’d used it as a desktop for a month or so some while back, so it’s mostly “as I like it”. I’m also not that fond of Ubuntu so if I mangle it too I won’t care as much ;-)

So the “good news” is I did my usual of “swap machines and stay running” and I’m “back in business” after only a brief outage. The RockPro64 is a very nice machine. Not as fast as the N2, but quite fast enough.

The “bad news” is that I’ve got a Forensic Recovery to do on the Odroid N2 and disk. That can take a while…

Then there’s both good and bad news there. The N2 Chip was backed up not that long ago, and it’s just a generic Armbian install anyway. I can, if I so choose, just reflash it and bring it up to date. “scrub that puppy” as it were. The real risk, though, is those files that can’t be seen on the hard disk. If persistent embedded malware, that’s “format the disk” time.

But what about the data saved on it?

OK, remember some many many months ago I did an experiment with squash file system read only /usr and such?

Well what I get to do now is “pick a chip” out of my stash and put a Brand New OS on it on a R.Pi M3. Then convert it to that squashfs overlay file system format so none of the relevant system spaces can be written. I’ll need to leave /var writable (I think…) and /tmp, but beyond that I ought to be able to lock it up tight.

Using that system, mount the hard disk RO Read Only. Then carefully pick out only what I want to copy off to somewhere else (another isolated disk until I can assure it isn’t buggered in the copy process) and after that, hard format and erase the disk partition.

FWIW there are some things that try to survive a reformat, so what I tend to do is format the partition in a couple of different ways. So once as “linux-swap” and once as FAT and once as UTF and then back to EXT for linux. That scrambles the bits pretty well ;-)

Then I’ll put a new OS on the N2 and see if things are back to acting normal.

It will likely be a few days as this is a lower priority recovery task. This is why I have a “few extra” SBCs and several chips for each. Any hardware, software, or intrusion suspicion can just be “flowed around”. Take it off the network and powerdown. Boot something completely different.

Is this overkill for a few files that just got marked strange in the file system? No, I don’t think so. A classic thing to do is spike a download with some crap and then try to disappear it in the file system. Waiting to see if it encrypts your whole system or not is the wrong thing to do. Stopping it before it gets fully entrenched is the best.

Most likely IFF this is a “hack”, it is just in the phase where it tries to copy persistent entry code into other parts of the file system / systems codes. Not yet to the “doing damage” part. At that point, scrubbing and reloading everything ought to still be OK. But if it isn’t, doing that on a system where 95% of it is squashfs / locked and where it is isolated from the network is likely to save you grief AND has the potential to show it knocking on closed doors.

Now it (whatever “it” might be) also needs to do “Privilege Escalation” as I was just logged in as a ‘regular user’. That usually takes time and a decent amount of “trying things”. I saw none of that, so most likely nothing ever got more privs than “just me”. Which also limits where any malicious code might have spread itself. I think at most it could make a hidden copy in some other directory where I have write permissions, but that’s about it. (IF anything happened at all other than a file system fault…)

That’s “isolate to observe” going to be my basic process “for a while” with that disk. I’ll reflash the OS on the uSD chip and reboot the system in isolation just to see what it does. After running enough time with “no bad thing” or even unexpected behaviours, I’ll put it back in service. I’ll also leave the (reformatted / reloaded) disk back in service on a squashfs armored disposable R.Pi system also off the network, and observe it for a while too.

EVENTUALLY, if I’m really comfortable that everything is square, I might move disk and data back onto the system. Note that I’ll be doing the data ‘copy off’ not via tools like “tar” that tend to take the whole file system as given, hidden files and all, but one directory at a time as I inspect them for the unexpected and only via a cp copy of the visible files I want.

Yes, that will take a lot of time. It doesn’t really matter though as my “work habits’ have me equipped with 3 or 4 very serviceable system images for each of 3 or 4 main Daily Driver SBCs and 95%+ of all data archived off on other disks that are powered down. So basically I’m “back in service” with almost no interruption already. Meaning the “other stuff” can go slow-boat and not matter.

This is one of the great benefits of the small SBC approach to Desktop Computing. A new system / complete system image costs about $10 for the uSD card, or less than a ¢ of hard disk archive space. Swapping cards is trivial compared to moving PC Hard Disks, and having saved data scattered over 1/2 dozen external USB drives keeps it highly compartmentalized and secure in the face of any Aw Shit. All while it’s fast and nearly trivial to plug a disk into any given SBC and have access to the data when needed.

Bottom line is that my worry level is near zero, and the needed work entirely not urgent at all, while it is something that I find interesting to do. Later…

Once I’ve got things locked down and can launch the browser on that system again, I’ll note the sites I visited and post them. (I’ll also likely ‘try again’ one at a time with a completely ‘disposo-system’ to verify that the same thing happens). But don’t expect that for a few days.

Things of interest

Many of these items were found on Bongino’s site:


Second NY Newspaper Editorial Board Calls for Gov. Cuomo’s Resignation

Biden to Sign Voter Registration Executive Order, Pushes Senate to Pass HR 1

Trump Promises to Travel to Alaska to Campaign Against Sen. Murkowski

Texas Gov. Deploys National Guard, State Troopers to Respond to Growing Border Crisis

Trump Sends Cease and Desist to RNC, NRCC, and NRSC for Using His Name to Fundraise

Senate Passes $1.9 Trillion Coronavirus Relief Bill

So we’ve got 2 Dim. Govs in trouble. Nuisance in California facing recall, and Cuomo getting the Bimbo Eruption problem. Nice ;-)

The Dimocrats are wasting no time in trying to lock down fraudulent elections for all future time. It will be interesting to see how many RINOs vote for it too. We will know who wants fraud based on their vote.

Murkoswki is about to learn how much she stepped in it…

Texas is not going to put up with a chaos-at-the-border moment.

Then Trump telling the RINO’s to stuff it? I wonder what that’s about…

And it looks like we’ve got another few $Trillion of “Relief To Leftist NGOs and well connected $Billionaires” with a small touch taken from your tax pocket and put in your hand to hide the theft.

The “Worldometer” has the USA (and California) reaching a lower level platau as the new cases stabilize lower. California, where supposedly some new horrible unstoppable mutant is running rampant, had 4211 new cases. About the same as June 17, 2020 when this was just getting started. Somehow I’m not seeing the need to panic… It looks to me like we are in the “coast out” phase after the big hump.


And of course I’m wondering just how the insane ended up deciding what’s acceptable in the culture. This “woke” crap is just crazy town. Dr. Seuss for having an Asian character with yellow skin and slanted eyes? Isn’t that a common cartoon extreme characterization? Like Irish with red beards and leprechaun hats / coats? Like English with a top hat, monocle and tails?

What do they want from a book that has talking cats and miniature worlds only an elephant can hear? Photo realism?

I’ve decided that any time I experience this “in my face”, my response will be something along the line of “That’s Bull Shit.” or “Do you really believe that crap?” depending on circumstances.

I’m done with just ignoring it. Push-back, it’s a thing. If we’re lucky, they will reach mental exhaustion and adrenal fatigue and collapse in a whimpering heap. Drive them to the wall with emotional fatigue. I’m also considering, for polite environments: “Frankly My Dear, I just don’t give a damn.”…

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A technical managerial sort interested in things from Stonehenge to computer science. My present "hot buttons' are the mythology of Climate Change and ancient metrology; but things change...
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218 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 7 Mar 2021

  1. Phil Younger says:

    Keep up the posts Chiefio- I have been silent but watching and enjoying your posts ever since Larry pointed me your way years ago.
    I tried to email Larry recently and the email bounced- I know you guys were asking a while back about him- anyone hear from him?

  2. Pinroot says:

    Banned Books: I remember around 2005, talking to one of my nephews at Thanksgiving. It was me, my mom, a brother and his son, and I don’t’ remember just what we were talking about, but “Little Black Sambo” got mentioned. My nephew had never heard of it (he would have been about mid 20’s at the time). I was going to night school and drove by a Barnes and Nobles to get to school, so I checked in to see if they had it. I looked in the children’s section and sure enough, they had a copy (which really surprised me; I don’t think it had been banned but it was taboo). I took it to the counter and the lady behind the counter looked at it and said “Where did you find this?” I really wasn’t sure she was going to sell it to me. I told her in the children’s section and she said “I need to get one before they get pulled” or something to that effect. I gave the copy I got to my nephew for Christmas that year. I should have bought two so I could have one. Now that they’re going after Pepe Le Pew, I’d better stock up on cartoons, just in case.

  3. E.M.Smith says:


    I’m started on a project of collecting PDFs of any banned stuff (or hard copy and scan it myself if necessary) then putting it all up in a Book & Video collection on i2p.

    Now if we all did that…

    FWIW, in a first basic ‘look over’ of the N2, with the hard disk removed, I saw all the downloaded Dr.Seuss and some other bits under the disk mount point.

    I had /home/ems and had mounted /T1/home/ems then in /etc/passwd had 2 entries for the ’ems’ account, one with each home dir path and one commented out depending on disk on / off the system.

    It looks like (somehow) some applications were seeing a different home dir than the others. Perhaps a bug not recognizing the # comment symbol? Whatever…

    (It does remind me of some of the other odd crap I’ve seen with SystemD where a config file doesn’t always get respected as it sometimes ‘had other ideas’… like changes to /etc/fstab don’t always reflect in the mounts as seen by SystemD… )

    So it’s starting to look more like either a corrupted system or a bug. First I’m trying an update / upgrade (that’s doing 127 packages….) and then I’ll inspect some more… It’s possible the uSD card is just reaching EOL corruption too… but it shouldn’t be.

    There’s also some other misc. odd behaviour showing up that would not be expected from a hack. Like failure to get a lock on .Xauthorization file even as root and with proper permissions. The kind of stuff you do see with disk / file system corruption problems.

    We’ll see where it ends up.

    Hey, update just finished. Not doing startx quite right seems fixed… more testing is in my future ;-)

  4. The True Nolan says:

    @E.M. “I’ve decided that any time I experience this “in my face”, my response will be something along the line of “That’s Bull Shit.” or “Do you really believe that crap?” depending on circumstances.”

    Ditto — but I think that kind of response is a minimum. The most valuable thing a leftist has is self esteem. They are WOKE! They are BETTER THAN YOU. They know exactly WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU. Hit them in their self esteem. The think a Dr. Seuss book is bad for having a cartoon that shows an Asian person with yellow skin and epicanthal folds? Try this response: “What? You think his cartoon is insulting? HOW?! He draws a cartoon with yellowish skin and slanted eyes — but YOU act like that is an insult! You think having slanty eyes makes a person bad? What’s next? Are you going to tell me that it is a bad thing that other races have different skin tones? Is it a bad thing that Africans have dark skin or kinky hair? What would satisfy you? Do we have to draw EVERYONE with light beige skin, narrow lips and a beaky nose? Being just a little bit White supremacist aren’t you?”

    Facts and reason don’t phase these people. Hit their personal conceits. They would put you and your children in camps if they could. And then they would never miss a night’s sleep over it because “it was for your own good!”

  5. another ian says:

    “Delingpole: Actor Laurence Fox Launches Mayoral Bid With Must-Watch ‘Reclaim Your Freedom’ Video”

    Of London that is


  6. E.M.Smith says:


    I’ve also considered the efficacy of just saying, incrdulously, “You actually believe that, don’t you…” then laughing hysterically ;-)

    @Per The N2:

    I’m presently posting this from the N2 with system updated and HOME DIRECTORY DISK unmounted. (i.e. swapped my home dir back to the default /home/ems from the mounted disk) and guess what… ALL my most recent browser tabs and such and cache are all just as they last were.

    What this means is that the Browser (Chromium) was not honoring the home directory listing in /etc/passwd for a Very Long Time and I just didn’t notice it until I downloaded some stuff using it.

    IMHO this is pointing ever more at SystemD as the likely culprit. “Something” got it stuck in it’s little pea brain that the entry in /etc/passwd could just be read once and then ignored from that point forward as “it already knows”… so swapping around where your home-dir is located doesn’t work for some of the larger programs more likely to be linked into the SystemD ecosystem (Chromium, GIMP, etc) where the simple SHELL was looking up my home-dir properly and looking on the mounted disk partition, then not finding the stuff.

    So “for a little while” I’m going to still leave this mostly shut down while I explore it, but it is looking like I need to take a walk off in “SystemD login home dir management” and see if they have decided to absorb the duties of /etc/passwd too… If so, IMHO, this oddity is explained and the “fix” is to stop running a SystemD system (even Armbian) on the Odroid N2…

    (he does a DDG…)

    And there it is:


    Home Directories
    systemd-homed.service(8) manages home directories of regular (“human”) users. Each directory it manages encapsulates both the data store and the user record of the user so that it comprehensively describes the user account, and is thus naturally portable between systems without any further, external metadata. This document describes the format used by these home directories, in context of the storage mechanism used.

    General Structure
    Inside of the home directory a file ~/.identity contains the JSON formatted user record of the user. It follows the format defined in JSON User Records.
    It is recommended to bring the record into ‘normalized’ form (i.e. all objects should contain their fields sorted alphabetically by their key) before storing it there, though this is not required nor enforced. Since the user record is cryptographically signed the user cannot make modifications to the file on their own (at least not without corrupting it, or knowing the private key used for signing the record). Note that user records are stored here without their binding, status and secret sections, i.e. only with the sections included in the signature plus the signature section itself.

    So it sure looks to me like SystemD (mented) strikes again and breaks the former quite nice and simple way home directories were determined.

    So, OK, worries kept away, it most likely is not an attack or malware (well, depending on your attitude about systemD it could be classed as malware…) at least not in the downloaded files.

    So SystemD afflicted APPICATIONS will not respect changes to /etc/passwd but traditional *nix commands and shell will, leading to an odd split reality. Got it.

    And some folks wonder why I despise SystemD… I don’t know, something about constantly tripping over places where it breaks perfectly functional systems and methods that have been used for 30 years without ANY problems… something like that…

    FWIW, what I typically have done is set up a new user with a login directory on the uSD card and minimal stuff in it. That way I can at least log in without a disk on the system. Then I’ll mount a hard disk partition to another place in the name space (typically named for the disk, like /T1/home/ for Toshiba 1GB /home partition) and with a simple /etc/passwd edit swap where my login lands. So for lots of production it lands on the hard disk partition, but if for some reason that’s got to be taken off, I can still long in and land on the uSD card (after an /etc/passwd edit).

    Looks like SystemD is once again being pig-headed. Picks up a config ONCE, and then doesn’t want to let it go or update as it ‘knows better’…

    I first ran into that with /etc/fstab. Make a change and it doesn’t always reflect in the systemd view of the world. Have a missing disk, instead of a time out and continue to boot, it would just spin forever with a black screen. I had two SBCs sit in my junk box for a year because I’d thought they had died (black screen forever at boot). Then a third did it right after I removed a disk and rebooted… then the lightbulb went off. Edited the other uSD card /etc/fstabs to NOT have unsatisfied disk mounts and both systems booted normally. Even a mount with “noauto” would cause this failure mode.

    Well, with that out of the way, I think I’m going to take a brief time to search for non-SystemD stuff for the Odroid N2. I’ve also got a couple of other boards where I’ve just gone ahead and run Armbian and now I’ve got to asses them for this same behaviour.

    Back in a bit, after some distro searching… (Yes, I know, there’s always Gentoo, Slackware, and BSD… but I want to check all my options… Slackware is a bit crufty, Gentoo is hard to build, and BSD takes a while to show up on boards so likely is a ‘young port’ or not there at all yet – so “some assembly required”…)

    But I’m really getting tired of running into fences built by systemd and tripping over powertools it has left running on the jogging path…

  7. Ossqss says:

    @EM Can you sandbox it and run a scan via another PC etc.. I have cleaned other drives that way in the past, but not your type OS and it has been a while since I had to do such. I made all the friends and neighbors and relateds who were constantly getting into trouble put some sort of decent security on their PC’s that I configured, and those issues went away. Yeah, I know some don’t like that, but it has saved me much trouble :-)

  8. E.M.Smith says:

    Yes, Linux on ARM supports sandboxes, chroot, and VMs.

    But it is just as easy (in some ways easier) to just make a new OS Chip and threat the SBC as a sandbox. Takes just a few moments to dd an image onto a card and go.

    But at this point I think I’ve found the problem and it is the fundamental conflict between all the Usual *Nix Way / traditional commands v.s. things embracing SystemD, and that lets SystemD screw up changing home dir mount points; leading to things landing in different home directories…

  9. another ian says:

    “The French once did a political purge of the military and look what happened to them”


    Follows on from Pointman on purges

  10. YMMV says:

    SystemD, I was beginning to think the D stood for Democratic Party, or else it stands for Demented, and both those unmentionables forked off from that. Wikipedia says:

    System D is a manner of responding to challenges that requires one to have the ability to think quickly, to adapt, and to improvise when getting a job done.

    As if. And then

    The term derives from the French term Système D. The letter D refers to any one of the French nouns débrouille,[3] débrouillardise[4] or démerde (French slang).

    That’s more like it. Not. More like in-de-merde.

  11. E.M.Smith says:


    Nice one.

    SystemD has only ever brought me grief in things that never had problems for many decades before. It has given me nothing I wanted and fixed no problems.

    It looks like folks have put OpenBSD and a hybrid Arch kernel / Void userland onto the N2 device. I think what I’m going to do is the same thing I did for a couple of other boards at various times, and take a working base boot / kernel (from either Ubuntu or Armbian) and graft a Devuan userland on top of it. Like that Void effort, but with Devuan.

    Essentially the boot sector, /boot, /etc/fstab, /usr/lib/firmware and /usr/modules from an existing running distribution, then replace everything else with a Devuan layer of aarch64 binaries. Mostly you need to assure the dtb (Device Tree Bundle) gets brought over along with firmware and drivers. Then assure the fstab points to the right boot device and partitions. After that the rest of the system ought to just run. Oh, and make sure the kernels are a match for level… Major numbers at least.

    I made a FrankenSystem of an aarch64 kernel and armhf userland on a couple of my SBCs back when the aarch64 userland was still having teething issues. The armhf FireFox and Chromium were far less buggy than the early aarch64 versions… So I’ve got a little experience at this. Plus I’ve got a similarly constructed Devuan for the RockPro64 that works (aarch64 userland on ‘somebodies’ kernel / boot – I think Ubuntu).

    I don’t really want to be a Systems Programmer, but it looks like I’m ending up there anyway. Something about being willing to just DIY anything that others are doing wrong…

  12. E.M.Smith says:

    @Phil Y.:

    Um, do you mean Larry from Colorado? Do you not know he suddenly was taken ill and passed away?

  13. jim2 says:

    I know Larry passed away around this time of year. IIRC, it was in February? A short memorial might be in order.

  14. E.M.Smith says:

    It was in the prior year 7 March posting that we got word:


    The comment was on the 10th of March, sometime prior:

    David Peterson says:
    10 March 2020 at 9:18 pm (Edit)
    Not sure if this is the right way to post this but I couldn’t figure out how to contact the moderator of this wordpress directly.

    Larry Ledwick, an active member of this blog who was a good friend of mine, and shared many links from here with me, has passed away.

    I know he enjoyed chatting with all of you frequently, and I am going to miss him a lot. I can follow up to this post if anyone is interested. Sorry if this was not the correct place to post this.

    I still miss him…

  15. Phil Younger says:

    Thanks EM and Jim. Not the news I wanted to hear. I had a ton of respect for Larry. Back about 15 years ago we both were experimenting with alcohol fuels in non-Flex fuel engines and talked daily on our projects and ideas on his website and others. He also loved photography and racing- particularly enjoyed Bonneville.

  16. Phil Younger says:

    I read all your posts about Larry. It sounds like my experiences with him are so similar to yours. He shared little of his own personal stuff -preferring to learn of your interests. He did share with me that why he was so into alcohol fuels was that he and his brother had a business that when fuel spiked so high they lost their business- he hoped that a new competitor fuel would help. His passion for knowledge and desire to test ideas was boundless. He loved his Subaru which survived all his experiments.
    I am just stunned- Though we did not talk often after i left the alcohol business we did touch base from time to time. No one can wear Larry’s shoes. I will sorely miss you Hotrod.

  17. Ossqss says:

    This was quite interesting on a Glock pistol. Just sayin, Wow. I found the video while looking for a 45 ACP carbine to compliment my 30s mags. Condense mag and ammo use is on my mind since I have the G19 with the Sub 2000 and it is a great match. I did get the P365 TacPac this weekend (over the Hellcat) and it is the best CC gun I ever had. It just fits the need with size and capacity.

    Now on to this amazing thing, add in the disclaimers here :-)

  18. E.M.Smith says:

    @Phil Younger:

    In the ’70s I was running gasahol on the street. In the late 80s, my lawn mower was 100% methanol … all it took was backing the fuel screw way out :-) Did that for several years. I also ran a Honda Trail 90 on propane in the early 70s, manually adjusting mix with throttle for air and fuel valve :-) Then there were several funny fuel mixes in Diesels… including alcohol valved in the intake as a co-fuel to about 70% power. And kerosene plant oil blends.

    Something fun about it ….

    Per SystemD issue:

    Looks like a known problem: https://www.reddit.com/r/systemd/comments/kwr2qb/move_systemdhomed_home_directory_to_new_disk/

    Move systemd-homed home directory to new disk?
    I have a system with a homed home directory. I used the storage=luks and image-path=xxx to use an entire drive for my home directory, but now I want to move home to a different drive. I’ve seen posts about how to move a homed drive (like if it were a USB drive) to a new system, but nothing on how to move home to a new disk. I had two ideas about how to do this, but neither seems to work

    So critical system behaviours suddenly changed, and I got spooked by the wierdness. But now I know it is just another SystemD screwage “by surprise”…

  19. Ossqss says:

    RIP, LL. You are missed. Queue up Mike and the Mechanic’s “The Living Years”

  20. jim2 says:

    Just from what he posted here, much very significant life experience, sharp mind, and it was overflowing with facts. RIP.

  21. Ossqss says:

    It was quite fascinating reading the tread from last year you linked EM. How have things changed in the last year? Reanalysis is in the house. Think about it.

  22. Nick Fiekowsky says:

    EM – for disk problems – SpinRite https://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm is a solid solution from Steve Gibson.

    Steve seems to share many of your characteristics. He takes nothing for granted, doesn’t stop until things are right, has wide-ranging interests. Many of them overlap yours.

  23. Ossqss says:

    Side note for those interested. I received this item yesterday and it has proven worthy in one day. Why did I buy this one, it has a removable 18650 battery that I use with several other devices and flashlights. It works well and I even checked gun barrels and inners and my teeth :-)

    Not necessarily in that order. LOL

  24. Ossqss says:

    @EM, it seems that Amazon link went to Kindle? Sorry folks. Dunno why.

  25. another ian says:

    “On paper, the US still has by far the world’s strongest military.”

    “However, there are increasing reasons to think that large parts of this superiority could be becoming illusory – a dangerous state of affairs, given the recovery of bipartisan support for US military intervention and American elites’ oft-stated confidence in their military supremacy.”

    More at


  26. another ian says:

    Seems to me that a “woke-military” ain’t a woke military

  27. E.M.Smith says:


    It goes to Amazon.

    FWIW, a couple of days ago I had a Fox News / RSBN report video show up instead of the music video “Paint It Black” on first opening my own site. Refreshed the page and it was the right video.

    I suspect that Worldpress or a WebCache provider (like Akamai) may have rolled out a new bit of software that’s very occasionally caching the wrong video. Holding on to some other video and not letting go when a new one is supposed to be shown. (The one I got was not one I’d ever seen before, so not cached anywhere in my systems. It had to be somewhere between WordPress and me.)

    Don’t be surprised if this goes on, very rarely, for a few more weeks to months until it can be figured out and fixed by “whoever” in the middle…

    @Another Ian:

    Critical Race Theory and “Wokeness” is a weapon aimed at the USA by Communists / Socialists / and Progressives. It’s purpose is to make the US military ineffective, cause our politicians to be distracted, and confuse our culture and population. So far it is successful.

  28. cdquarles says:

    This study is horrid, though given the politicization, not surprising: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7010e3-H.pdf. Cough, CDC, cough; this doesn’t show what you are trying to make it show. Given the limitations, the design, and the use of p-values, you could say that you have shown that masks *don’t* work to reduce the spread of respiratory viruses, unless you are talking about N95 types in certain defined conditions and circumstances. This looks like the epidemiologist fallacy writ large, to me.

  29. jim2 says:

    Hmmm … is woke finally back-firing?

    Why popular YouTubers are building their own sites


  30. philjourdan says:

    @Nick Fiekowsky says:
    8 March 2021 at 4:52 am – I fully recommend Gibson. I use to use it when its purpose (and only function) was to re-align the sectors to the heads on the old RLL/MFM drives.

    But I bought a newer copy back in the IDE days of the early 2ks to recover data off of my kids computer. It was that good! Got over 95% off damaged platters.

    As for the Voter Fraud 1 bill – I still do not see how it can stand court challenges. The constitution is explicit in giving the power to the States, not the Feds. But given their shirking of responsibility over the past 6 months, I can see them caving as well.

    I note that Biden may have a SCOTUS pick soon. Roberts was on the losing end of a 8-1 decision on Freedom of Speech. Even the unwise Latina voted with the conservative majority.

  31. cdquarles says:

    I thought that I linked to it. See here: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7010e3-H.pdf. The error bounds shown are probably parametric ones, so understate it by several times.

  32. cdquarles says:

    And about that obesity thing, you could probably show 100% of the covid deaths all ate carrots at least one time in their life. (Same with all cause deaths …)

  33. E.M.Smith says:

    I understand that 100% of Covid infections have persistent breathing, but…
    100% of Covid deaths have zero breathing, so, you are damned if you breath and dead if you don’t.. Statistically speaking…


  34. philjourdan says:

    Breaking news! Science has now proven the leading cause of death in the world is ….. LIFE! Scientists have data showing that 100% of those who died, were alive just before death. Proving conclusively that the main killer of man is life.

  35. The True Nolan says:

    @philjourdan “The constitution is explicit in giving the power to the States, not the Feds.”

    Yes, you are absolutely correct! Except… People who are addicted to power will tell us that the Constitution means whatever they want it to mean. For instance, “Of course only the State legislatures can set voting law! We don’t want to change that! But we Glorious Leaders in the Federal Government have a responsibility to make sure that ALL citizens have equal representation and an equal ability to express their political choices, so we are only going to make some laws which ensure equal representation. The States will still be able to make whatever legislation they wish JUST AS LONG AS THEIR LAWS DON’T CONFLICT WITH WHAT WE TELL THEM THEY MUST DO TO ENSURE THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF ALL CITIZENS. The States are not being restrained in any matter, no coercion, no constraints — we’re just making sure that they rule wisely.”

    Pragmatically speaking, the States gave up the last of their sovereignty when they accepted the results of a stolen election.

    Phil, you are 100% correct that the Constitution is clear. The problem is that the Constitution is no longer in force. The worst part is that the courts and the military failed to reign in the Deep State.

  36. Steven Fraser says:

    @philjourdan “The constitution is explicit in giving the power to the States, not the Feds.”

    Sorry, no. Here is the text of the 10th Amendment:

    ‘The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.’

    This does not ‘give’ the power to the states and the people, they already have it. The constitution is an act of the states, and of their people.

  37. Ossqss says:

    @CD, I hear ya, but it is what it is. 78% with the same co-morbidity documented. Just sayin, I am not eating carrots moving forward, just in case. :-)

  38. E.M.Smith says:

    Using a R.Pi M3 running Kodi, I’m watching Secret Agent / Danger Man on Crackle channel. From 1960, B&W. And loving it!

    Good plots, men who are men and women who are women. Nothing P.C. in sight, all oxen subject to goring for effect. Stereotypes cheerfully abound. A glorious thing, well acted and scripted.

  39. another ian says:

    “New Wizard of Oz removed the ScareCrow”


    Poster’s comment

    “Guess it offended to many people without brains. “

  40. Nancy & John Hultquist says:

    Would that carrot comment be about raw carrots, or
    baked with brown sugar, pecans or walnuts, and crisped marshmallows?
    Asking for my mother.

  41. Taz says:


    I’m started on a project of collecting PDFs of any banned stuff (or hard copy and scan it myself if necessary) then putting it all up in a Book & Video collection on i2p.

    Now if we all did that…

    Make certain they are PDF/A and/or PNG (I know Tiff’s are post patent) and I’ll host them on ZeroNet for you – or mirror your Zite.

    One nice thing about Zeronet? If you destroy the signing key after posting – the files can never be taken down. As long as anyone out there mirrors it – it lives on. Only someone with the original signing key can remove that post.

    IMO, ZeroNet is potentially more useful for “forever” archives than I2P. Makes better use of redundancy and geo dispersion.

    But as you suggest,,,people must get into the habit of supporting their freedoms with MONEY. Cuz the Easter bunny ain’t gonna do it.

  42. Taz says:

    “Second NY Newspaper Editorial Board Calls for Gov. Cuomo’s Resignation”

    I loath this guy AND most New Yorkers. Can think of many situations where I could end him on the spot.

    But admit I’m beginning to have some twinges of respect for this creep. Because he hasn’t just cut and run.

    Say this as one who might explode upon “creep attempting to exploit family member”, and as someone who believes he should be punished for nursing homes AND his endless self congratulating prattle. Even with that, am sick of childless metoo BLEEPs. If he was that big of a jerk – do him the Dolly Parton way. Turn him from a rooster into a hen with one shot….

    Don’t go to the media and whine about it. Nor enlist legions of professional spinsters to support your case.

    We need a meetoo BLEEP registry…so we can steer young men away from such creatures and prevent their spread.

    Hate this guy. Was never a bully, but might have made an exception for this guy. He just annoys me. So these newfound particles of respect are really painful for me. Please do something to remind me you are really one of THEM Cuomo.

  43. jim2 says:

    Former President Donald Trump is trying to squeeze money away from three of the most integral fundraising and electoral organizations in Republican politics as he aims to ensure Republican donors’ money doesn’t go to candidates who are disloyal to him.

    Then mere hours later, Trump sent an email to his supporters telling them to ensure that their political donations go to the political action committee (PAC) directly controlled by him instead of organizations that may support Republicans who are critical of the former president.

    “No more money for RINOS. They do nothing but hurt the Republican Party and our great voting base—they will never lead us to Greatness,” Trump said, telling donors to give their money to his Save America PAC. “We will bring it all back stronger than ever before.”


  44. Power Grab says:

    Linus Torvalds says there is a “double ungood” bug in Linux 5.12 rc1:


  45. Power Grab says:

    @ Taz Re:
    “Taz says:
    9 March 2021 at 4:02 am

    I’m started on a project of collecting PDFs of any banned stuff (or hard copy and scan it myself if necessary) then putting it all up in a Book & Video collection on i2p.

    Now if we all did that…”

    I’ve been doing that most of the past year. I have a big 3-ring binder of printouts, as well as a collection of PDFs in several places. Oh, and a collection of particularly interesting links stashed in an obscure place.

    I had a gut feeling the articles that tell the most truth, and give the lie to the MSM party line, would be removed before too long.

    And, of course, the quicker they remove articles and videos, the more likely they contain truth that damages the party line! You get the most flak when you’re flying over enemy territory, right?

    I almost never transmit links to friends and family anymore because it concerns me that all communications (and interpersonal connections) are being surveilled and filed away somewhere…even though that database really has got to be insanely large….

    Speaking of surveillance, does anyone here know if a telephone on a traditional landline (using the old copper wires that are already in place) is easier or less easy for the GEBs to gather intel from?

    Hmmm…I wonder if that old computer of mine with its old-style modem could be used on that copper landline? I think it has Windows 95 on it.

  46. pinroot says:

    The talk about carrots and covid reminds me of George Carlin saying that saliva has been found to cause cancer, but only if swallowed in small amounts over a long period of time.

    I’ve been saving pdfs and videos for a long time, I guess it’s time to get them organized and make them available to others. I managed to get i2pd running on my RPi Zero. No console, no web server, just the router. I really can’t tell what’s going on (no console) and looking at the logs didn’t tell me much (that I could understand anyway). I’m running it headless, so I ended up installing lynx text based browser, setting http_proxy to and I was able to sort of connect to a couple of i2p sites (the addresses weren’t in my address book, so I got errors redirecting me to jump sites or whatever), so I know the router is working, but I don’t know how efficient it is. Some type of console would be nice so I could see how many tunnels there are, at the very least. Looking at htop, things looked pretty good, the cpu would spike from time to time but never got to 100%, and memory usage looks good, and load was really good (which makes me wonder if I’ve got that many tunnels using my system; some kind of console would be nice ;) ). I’ll keep playing with it as time permits, and eventually set up something similar on a larger RPi M3.

  47. cdquarles says:

    @ the Hultquists,
    The carrot mentioned in the comment was unadorned, so it meant carrot, regardless of being cooked or not or if cooked, how it was cooked or with what you have cooked with it. ;p

  48. another ian says:

    An introduction to that zero emission world (/s)

    “got an email from a supplier that due to resin shortages, expect shortages in all resin products, from PVC conduit to romex and all manner of fittings. nearly everything thing we use has a resin based component so it is somewhat concerning, for those interested i found an article that sort of highlights the causes.


  49. philjourdan says:

    @Steven Fraser – wrong section. Try Article 1, section 4. While congress can enact laws to enforce elections, they do not have the power to dictate how the elections are held. That is the sole purview of the State Legislators.

  50. philjourdan says:

    @Taz – Re: respect for the grim reaper. With apologies to Godwin – Hitler did not cut and run either.

  51. E.M.Smith says:


    Congratulations! Do remember you can run a remote console via ssh and browser.

    How can I access the web console from my other machines or password protect it?

    For security purposes, the router’s admin console by default only listens for connections on the local interface. There are two methods for accessing the console remotely:

    1. SSH Tunnel
    2. Configuring your console to be available on a Public IP address with a username & password
    These are detailed below:

    SSH Tunnel
    If you are running a Unix-like Operating System, this is the easiest method for remotely accessing your I2P console. (Note: SSH server software is available for systems running Windows, for example https://github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH)
    Once you have configured SSH access to your system, the ‘-L’ flag is passed to SSH with appropriate arguments – for example:
    ssh -L 7657:localhost:7657 (System_IP)

    where ‘(System_IP)’ is replaced with your System’s IP address. This command forwards port 7657 (the number before the first colon) to the remote system’s (as specified by the string ‘localhost’ between the first and second colons) port 7657 (the number after the second colon). Your remote I2P console will now be available on your local system as ‘http://localhost:7657’ and will be available for as long as your SSH session is active. If you would like to start an SSH session without initiating a shell on the remote system, you can add the ‘-N’ flag:
    ssh -NL 7657:localhost:7657 (System_IP)

    Configuring your console to be available on a Public IP address with a username & password
    Open ~/.i2p/clients.config and replace
    clientApp.0.args=7657 ::1, ./webapps/

    clientApp.0.args=7657 ::1,,(System_IP) ./webapps/

    where you replace (System_IP) with your system’s public IP address
    Go to http://localhost:7657/configui and add a console username and password if desired – Adding a username & password is highly recommended to secure your I2P console from tampering, which could lead to de-anonymization.
    Go to http://localhost:7657/index and hit “Graceful restart”, which restarts the JVM and reloads the client applications
    After that fires up, you should now be able to reach your console remotely. Load the router console at http://(System_IP):7657 and you will be prompted for the username and password you specified in step 2 above if your browser supports the authentication popup.
    NOTE: You can specify in the above configuration. This specifies an interface, not a network or netmask. means “bind to all interfaces”, so it can be reachable on as well as any LAN/WAN IP. Be careful when using this option as the console will be available on ALL addresses configured on your system.


    Wired is harder to hack than wireless by a lot. But an approved wiretap is easy on both.

    What you really want is encrypted communications. HTTPS is encrypted. VPN is encrypted. TOR is encrypted AND hides the contact trace (who talks to whom). i2p is encrypted, hides contact trace, obscures the routes, scrambles the participants, and has hidden services.

    You can get encrypting VOIP phones. Phone over encrypted internet links…

    For communication with family and friends, I’m setting up in i2p. This includes encrypted email, chats, file sharing, and more.

    For private browsing of the public internet, I’m using Tor.

    For things of no importance, I just use a browser on Linux.

    Remember that i2p runs onLinux, Mac, PC and there is supposedly an Androud Ap. It is slow though. About like that old dial-up… but fast enough.

  52. another ian says:



  53. David A says:

    It is curious that the seven and 3 day moving averages of cases and deaths is flattening out beginning in mid February. ( Not just the US, but the world) Isn’t this about when the vaccines should be showing their effectiveness?

    According to this article, Israel, the most vaccinated nation, is having an uptick in deaths.

    And this may be a concern…

    My 94 year old Dad is living in an independent senior apartment.
    No visitors were allowed. I convinced the manager that my Dad needed my help with his phone, TV computer hearing aids, etc… So, with a negative Wuflu test, I was finally allowed in. Now I am being told I must have the jab to be allowed to visit him in his apartment. Yet he can leave with me, etc… Well I am in a wait and see mode for at least two years on the vaccines, so no more in home visits.

    I find their policy incomprehensible. I can not visit him in his apartment, yet He can come out with me, sit next to me in my car and we can go eat, medical appointments etc, right next to each other.

    Also everyone, working and the 155 residents in the apartment, has had the vaccine. Are they not supposedly 95 percent less likely to affected? What does the vaccine do if it does not protect you from potential exposure?

    I intend to ask which vaccine and if there was any negative reactions and or deaths. I don’t know if I will get an honest answer, or any answer.

  54. jim2 says:

    RE: Tyrants. We have a much bigger problem here in the States due to the stolen election setting up Dimowits to ram through whatever ill-conceived idiocies they can come up with – and they do want to rule the US permanently. I don’t see what anyone can do about it either.

  55. jim2 says:

    RE: mRNA and tumors. I am always skeptical ;)

    Researchers at the Sloan Kettering Institute have found that changes in an information-carrying molecule called messenger RNA can inactivate tumor-suppressing proteins and thereby promote cancer. The findings pinpoint previously unknown drivers of the disease. It’s important to note that mRNAs are a normal component of all cells and the specific ones discussed here are not involved in mRNA-based vaccines, like the one developed against SARS-CoV-2.


  56. jim2 says:

    RE: Dimowit Tyrants.
    House Majority Whip Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-SC) said Tuesday on MSNBC’s “All In” that there should be special exceptions where the filibuster rule does not apply to voting rights and civil rights.

    Clyburn said, “It’s not just HR1 that I’m concerned about. Remember, it has a lot to do with redistricting with financing campaigns. That’s got nothing to do with voting rights and civil rights. HR4 that we have renamed the John R. Lewis Voting Rights Act is coming forward. We hope it would be ready by the fourth, the sixth of August, the anniversary of the 1965 Voting Rights Act so that we can get that out. I don’t think these things should be subjective to the filibuster.


  57. pinroot says:

    @EM – Thanks for the info on running a remote console! I’ve been looking for something like that (your search-fu is much better than mine). I know that the router is running, I just don’t know what kind of traffic I’m getting/routing. It would be nice to know that I’m contributing a little something to the project, and not wrecking havoc on the network instead of helping. I’m running i2pd pretty much “out of the box” with all the default configuration options, so I wouldn’t expect it to be broken, but it will be nice to see just what’s going on.

  58. E.M.Smith says:

    You are most welcome. While it looks pretty easy to do, I’ve not configured mine for remote console yet. Why? Well, I put it on a network with only the TV Sets…. so I don’t have any other console equipped device to use with it ;-)

    At first boot it does a network speed test, interactively, for the i2prouter version. For the i2pd version it may be configured to skip that. and avoid the interactive Q&A session.

    I doubt it will do anything bad. Pretty much at boot it runs the default settings on mine, too. I did fiddle with bandwidth in-out as my “test” failed so it defaulted to a fairly low setting compared to my actual available. The low setting means not much traffic uses your router (enough, but not a lot).

    The biggest risk I see is something I only figured out / found out after running a while. There’s a kind of “voted on / off the island” system in use. The more bandwidth you allocate and the longer you run, the more connected and aware your system becomes and the more traffic you get. Low bandwidth and being down a lot gets YOU slower connections and less of them available too. Then, any “surprise shutdown” gets you flagged as unreliable. “i2prouter graceful” is the command to stop accepting tunnels for about a 10 minute period then shutdown after your routing commitments have expired. Every time you just pull the plug, you get a “Ding” recorded “somewhere” out there. After enough of them you don’t have other folks routing traffic through your site very much / at all… You become known as an unreliable router.

    So you really want to know how to tell your router to shutdown gracefully.

    Other than that bandwidth setting, mine are running in their “out of the box” configuration with only 2 differences: One does have a web site turned on, and two have a Torrent running, those seem to increase the total tunnels (though I think only to get to your web and torrent services?) and increase the number of sites aware of you and setting up “participating” tunnels. They are only needed if you want to run a web site or torrent server / client. To just provide mid-point tunnel in/out services, they are not needed. (Those show up as “participating”)

    For mine, when first started (couple of days), the “exploratory” tunnels dominated the total. Makes sense as first the routers need to explore other routing paths looking for other machines and building a list of who’s out there. Then it gets an ever increasing number of “participating” tunnels as more sites are known and it gets in the selection rotor for building new tunnels. Eventually exploratory drops off (but not to zero…) and participating gets fairly high.

    Somewhere in the middle of that I turned on a Torrent and the Web server. Each one opens a new block of tunnels in the console. “Client” tunnels. I don’t know if these are shared with other Torrents or Web servers (i.e. a kind of participating but not your served docs) or if they ONLY go to your served docs on your running server. In either case they increase the number of systems aware of you and your “participating” tunnels seem to rise faster.

    Key takeaway for me: A server that is up and running, reliably, for a couple of days AND does graceful shutdowns, gets a lot more participation. One that bounces up and down a lot in short bursts and without a graceful shutdown gets ignored more.

  59. E.M.Smith says:

    Chalking this up to Yet Another SystemD Screwage:

    Booted up the Pine64 board as I want to grab the X config from it under NetBSD. Not sure the chip in it so just boot and see. It’s a Debian (Armbian) 10 image. The one I installed FreedomBox onto.

    Well I wasn’t sure the User/Password and had to guess a couple of times to see if I got it right. Finally got in. So decided to look at the PW file to see what users I had installed. It said “NONE!”

    ems@freedombox:~$ cat /etc/passwd
    list:x:38:38:Mailing List Manager:/var/list:/usr/sbin/nologin
    gnats:x:41:41:Gnats Bug-Reporting System (admin):/var/lib/gnats:/usr/sbin/nologin
    systemd-timesync:x:101:102:systemd Time Synchronization,,,:/run/systemd:/usr/sbin/nologin
    systemd-network:x:102:103:systemd Network Management,,,:/run/systemd:/usr/sbin/nologin
    systemd-resolve:x:103:104:systemd Resolver,,,:/run/systemd:/usr/sbin/nologin
    nslcd:x:106:112:nslcd name service LDAP connection daemon,,,:/var/run/nslcd/:/usr/sbin/nologin
    openldap:x:107:114:OpenLDAP Server Account,,,:/var/lib/ldap:/bin/false
    avahi:x:109:115:Avahi mDNS daemon,,,:/var/run/avahi-daemon:/usr/sbin/nologin
    ez-ipupd:x:111:65534:Dynamic DNS client,,,:/var/cache/ez-ipupdate:/bin/false
    systemd-coredump:x:999:999:systemd Core Dumper:/:/usr/sbin/nologin
    usbmux:x:116:46:usbmux daemon,,,:/var/lib/usbmux:/usr/sbin/nologin
    speech-dispatcher:x:119:29:Speech Dispatcher,,,:/var/run/speech-dispatcher:/bin/false
    pulse:x:120:125:PulseAudio daemon,,,:/var/run/pulse:/usr/sbin/nologin
    lightdm:x:121:127:Light Display Manager:/var/lib/lightdm:/bin/false

    Notice that logged in usr “ems” does not show up in the /etc/passwd file. How’s that work?

    ems@freedombox:~$ grep ems /etc/passwd
    ems@freedombox:~$ grep ems /etc/group

    Not in /etc/passwd, but in /etc/group though only as a member of another group, not as my own “ems” group.

    ems@freedombox:~$ whoami
    ems@freedombox:~$ pwd
    ems@freedombox:~$ ls -l
    total 0
    drwxr-xr-x 1 ems users 0 Feb  3 07:16 Desktop
    drwxr-xr-x 1 ems users 0 Feb  3 07:16 Documents
    drwxr-xr-x 1 ems users 0 Feb  3 07:16 Downloads
    drwxr-xr-x 1 ems users 0 Feb  3 07:16 Music
    drwxr-xr-x 1 ems users 0 Feb  3 07:16 Pictures
    drwxr-xr-x 1 ems users 0 Feb  3 07:16 Public
    drwxr-xr-x 1 ems users 0 Feb  3 07:16 Templates
    drwxr-xr-x 1 ems users 0 Feb  3 07:16 Videos

    Yet all the commands think I’m there, as do my files ownership and group.

    Normally at this point I’d think my system was corrupted or under assault by hackers. But given the bogus home directory handling, I’m now pretty sure it is just SystemD screwing a new pooch again.

    So, OK, Note To Self:

    DO NOT UPGRADE TO BUSTER as it’s worse than Ascii, not better. Just stop using Debian, Armbian, Ubuntu, whatever and don’t trust them as a fall-back option.

    But now I know this uSD card is not the one I want, and that I can just nuke it. One down, a dozen to go.

  60. Power Grab says:

    @ EM re “About like that old dial-up… but fast enough.”

    Yeah. I’m pretty spoiled, actually. I’m accustomed to the fastest internet in town for the last…umm…15 years or so. I don’t use wifi unless I’m forced to. I much prefer Ethernet connections. But I plan to get a landline on the old copper in my “new” digs eventually, once I can see what the regular utility bills are running. I’d like a landline on my copper for not much more than sentimentality…and maybe the hope that it will continue to work even if the rest of the power goes out. Twenty bucks a month would be worth it.

    We didn’t lose any utilities in the arctic front event last month. But I’m walking on eggshells, waiting for the next utility bills to arrive….

  61. Ossqss says:

    @Power Grab, I don’t think there are any old switch phone systems left in operation, even though the VOIP systems that replaced them still use in house copper to connect to them. That transition happened a decade or so ago, as I recall everyone who had an older dialup alarm lost connectivity when it occurred.

  62. Pinroot says:

    Systemd is starting to sound like Linux’s version of the Window’s registry. A single point of failure. Not a good idea putting all those eggs in one basket.

    Well, I tried the ssh version of looking at a remote console, but when I try to connect via browser I get the following error (in the terminal running ssh):

    channel 2: open failed: connect failed:

    I get this for every attempt I make to connect to I’m not running a web server on the remote machine, so that may be part of the problem. There is a section in the config file for setting up an http webconsole, which I think requires a server, so I’ll probably have to get that going first, and then try ssh again.

    The second suggestion won’t work because I don’t have a clients.conf file. With i2pd all you get are i2pd.conf and tunnels.conf. It’s pretty bare bones, but that’s what I wanted, lol.

    The system has been up for two days, so I hopefully have a few tunnels. I think I’ll do some reading and just let the system sit. I need to find out how to shut this one down gracefully (I did see something about it in the i2pd docs) so that I don’t end up on the ‘naughty router’ list :)

  63. Pinroot says:

    Well, I finally got connected to my i2pd console! Turns out that the console for i2pd is located at localhost:7070, not localhost:7657. I didn’t need a webserver, because apparently the console serves up pages if you connect to the right port! So I modded the command that EM gave me upthread:

    ssh -NL 7657:localhost:7657 (System_IP)

    so that it was now:

    ssh -NL 7070:localhost:7070 (System_IP)

    and now I can remotely view the console! I can finally see what’s going on, lol.

    Uptime: 1 days, 22 hours, 3 min, 7 seconds
    Network status: Firewalled
    Tunnel creation success rate: 25%
    Received: 260.08 MiB (1.13 KiB/s)
    Sent: 334.89 MiB (1.51 KiB/s)
    Transit: 33.15 MiB (0.00 KiB/s)
    Data path: /var/lib/i2pd
    Hidden content. Press on text to see.Routers: 1237 Floodfills: 805 LeaseSets: 0
    Client Tunnels: 40 Transit Tunnels: 1

    I’m not sure why net status is “Firewalled” (to my knowledge, it’s not, but I’ve read that it can mistakenly show that when it’s not, so no biggie right now), and I’m not sure why tunnel creation success rate is only 25%, but now that I know these things, I can start looking into improving them.

    Slowly but surely…

  64. YMMV says:

    Yet another mechanism by which IVM works against Covid.
    This one is interesting because of a malaria connection. HCQ and AZ also have a malaria connection. Turns out there is a receptor on the red blood cells which both malaria and the Covid (SARS) viruses attach too. The SARS virus does not enter the cells with this receptor, but it does cause hyper clotting. IVM also attaches to these blood cell receptors, blocking the virus from attaching, thereby reducing the blood clotting. That’s the theory. And high doses are not harmful. Details here.

  65. E.M.Smith says:

    Strange things you find online…

    Click to access NATO_Gets_Better_Intell_April_PDP_0.pdf

    Like NATO Intel structure…

  66. E.M.Smith says:


    Oh yeah… now you mention it, I do remember reading that i2pd used different ports….

    Firewalled can just mean your telco router is doing NAT. It sniffs the telco box and devises an exit strategy if you have not done port forwarding, then claims firewalled.

  67. President Elect H.R. says:

    Power Grab: “I’d like a landline on my copper for not much more than sentimentality…and maybe the hope that it will continue to work even if the rest of the power goes out.”

    Our local substation kinda, sorta, blew up in a big fireball and we were without power for three days. Our landline continued to work. Beep-beep-boop, boop-boop-beep-boop. The wireless phone system was useless. It seems the base unit requires electricity. So there is that going for a landline. And! They are always 5 bars 😜

    I’m not sure about that $20/month. They have loaded so many socialist freebie taxes onto landline phones to fund every Dem wet dream that I think (no phone bill close at hand) the monthly bill is going to be a shocker to you; $12 phone bill + $37 in taxes and special ‘social’ taxes… for “the poor and the children.”

    I think one of the taxes STILL on the bill is so every inner city kid can have ‘free’ dial up access to the interwebbies. Sheesh! Never let a tax pass. It will be there forever, festering and growing.

  68. p.g.sharrow says:

    My land line costs $83 a month, about $10 of it is government charges. I’d get rid of it but cell service ifs if’y here. if the power fails for over 6 hours the land line goes dead. With my own power at least the Hughes Satellite service is up at $130 a month. We got rid of the Sat. TV, AT&T Direct…pg

  69. Power Grab says:

    @ President Elect H.R. re: “…fireball…”

    Woah!! Did anyone get pictures? Did they figure out why it blew up? That’s a little bit more excitement than I would care to have in my neighborhood!

    Around here, it’s usually a squirrel. ;-) But I don’t think it makes a very impressive explosion. In fact, one time I was driving to work in the morning, and just as I passed a pole with a transformer on it, I saw a modest explosion at the top of the pole. I called the people in a building I knew would be affected and told them which one blew, just in case it would save someone time in locating it.

    In fact, years ago when my church used to put on big productions for Easter and Christmas, our musical was in progress when the power all went out. The auditorium was built with only one small window up high because we wanted to be able to make it really dark when the productions required it. So it got really dark when the power went out. Back then, we used real humans playing real instruments, so it wasn’t necessarily the end. I think flashlights were involved. I will have to ask someone who was around back then what they remember–did we stop or did we resume even without power? I should remember, but I’m about to turn into a pumpkin because it’s so late. I think half my brain has already shut down for the night.

    I expect you’re correct about the additional charges they will probably add. I’m waiting to sign up until I am fairly confident that the budget can take it.

  70. Power Grab says:

    @ p.g. sharrow re “if the power fails for over 6 hours the land line goes dead.”

    Where I used to live (and probably where I live now) that means the “landline” was really VOIP. When they changed out my regular landline for VOIP at my previous residence, I was there when the technician came. I mentioned my desire to have a landline because they usually keep working if the rest of the power goes out. He said it would stay on as long as the battery lasted. I think the battery he was talking about might have been a UPS in a wiring closet elsewhere in the building.

    @ ossqss re: “I don’t think there are any old switch phone systems left in operation”

    The office I went to when investigating the possibility of getting a wired phone had to check their map to make sure my neighborhood still has copper in the houses (and neighborhood). So I’m pretty sure it still exists in small pockets, if nowhere else. I will have to ask them about your point.

  71. E.M.Smith says:

    Here, AT&T converted to glass on the poles some time ago. “Last mile” was copper until recently, but now they are pushing fiber to the home. A fat cable got the wire ties squirrel eaten so drooped heavily. I called it in. A few days later it broke. They spliced in a new chunk and hung it with steel this time. I watched the splicing. All fiber…

    Fiber takes repeaters that take power…

    Telco has a whirring box end of the block. I’m pretty sure it is a power box to keep it all runnung a few hours. My telco router spits out a voip line but I didn’t buy one….

    I’m pretty sure that to get a real copper line to the Telco central switch, you will need to be rural / remote where there was not enough people density to justify pulling fibre (yet).

    In any prolonged power outage, I would plan on all telephones being dead after day 2. IIRC, most telco sites plan on a few hours to 2 days standby power. The C.O. with standby Diesel generators generally require refuling day two… and that’s about when you can’t reach truckers, traffic lights are a mess, and fuel pumps stop. Day 3 you wake up to news of emergency service being sent from out of region via convoy…

  72. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and the advantage of copper is that it is powered from the switch office. Fibre has local power to repeaters… so one guy shorting out a local transformer doesn’t take out your phone; and the switch site usually is on the critical power list. So a rolling blackout doesn’t take out the copper service. BUT a long regional blackout does.

    BTW, watching Secret Agent from 1960, amusing how many plots include finding a phone in rural or foreign places. The difficulty in communicating is huge compared to now. I remember in 1961 being in a lodge in Little Grass Valley. 4 phones in town. One line. Crank on wall in wooden box, with separate earpiece. Every one had a different assigned pattern, so one long crank, or two short, or a long then short…You could actually go to “away” then… We were unreachable from the rest of world for the weekend…

    So I don’t mind being unreachable for a while…and I expect to need to deal with things on my own… Causes me a certain boggle when seeing folks who can’t go an hour without their phone….

    OTOH, accidents in the wilderness are less traumatic, so there’s that.

  73. another ian says:


    Our party line phone designatiors were morse code

  74. David A says:

    “Though new Covid infections continue to decline from the catastrophic winter peak, they remain stubbornly high at more than 60,000 new cases a day on average, according to a CNBC analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University. That’s comparable to the surge the U.S. experienced last summer.

    Deaths have also decreased from the devastating winter peak, but remain tragically high. More than 1,700 people are dying a day from the virus on average, according to data from Johns Hopkins.”

    It is curious that the seven and 3 day moving averages of cases and deaths is flattening out beginning in mid February. ( Not just the US, but the world)
    Isn’t this about when the vaccines should be showing their effectiveness? What does 95 percent effective mean?
    Cases and deaths were dropping before the vaccine. I see no clear signal in the numbers of the vaccine being effective.

    According to this article, Israel, the most vaccinated nation, is having an uptick in deaths.

  75. The True Nolan says:

    RE land lines, can you still “steal” low amounts of power off the wire supplying the ring voltage? Might be good for minimal lighting or for charging small electronics. In the ancient days, phone companies had large banks of batteries for supplying power in case the mains went down.

  76. Taz says:

    The joy of F… You money…..



    [Reply: Using the F-bomb puts comments into the SPAM bucket. The Greta one has too many for me to clean it up enough to let through. This “tiny-url” link goes to localhost so I think it is not what you intended. E.M.S. ]

  77. Taz says:

    @Power Grab

    Somewhere in the archives I still have a copy of a dialup to dialup secure telephone originating from that well respected security group in Berlin. Last time I looked – they had taken it down, but if you can’t find it on their site – can sure post to an onion for you.

    Nope, looks like they reposted: https://www.cryptophone.de/en/products/software/

    Use both packet and circuit switched networks myself and can see the merit of preserving the circuit switched option. Especially given the improvements in codecs today.

  78. Power Grab says:

    @ Taz:

    Thanks! I will check it out.

  79. another ian says:

    “Ultra unboxing”

    Via SDA

  80. E.M.Smith says:

    I’m going through my various System Images and depricating all the Armbian ones. On the XU4 noticed an error go past on an Armbian Focal generic install. Checked Syslog:

    Mar 12 11:53:49 localhost pulseaudio[1950]: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

    Which really has me wondering just why in heck PulseAudio (another Pottering product…) needs the network and a phone-home at boot time?

    I’m so done with all things Pottering…

    I’ve settled on Devuan as my No.1 OS and if need be I’ll make a FrankenSystem by grafting it over a kernel / dtb / and such from another distribution (at least until I get good enough to DIY with their odd tools… They use zsh ‘features’ that means Yet Another Shell to learn… )

    I’m also going to take the pain of bringing up either NetBSD or FreeBSD on any boards where I can’t get something else free of SystemD running.

    My order of preference no longer includes ANY SystemD infested release.

    Some other Linux, in order: Void, Gentoo, Slackware, ‘whatever’

    If I can’t get something I like an a board, it will be disposed before I’ll run SystemD on it (I may do occasional “boot for special use, then dispose” with SystemD, but not ever as a Daily Driver.) Just one too many AwShits from crazy stuff they’ve done. Screwing up home directories and ending up with half the commands going to one place and half to what /etc/passwd defined was the last straw.

  81. another ian says:


    See https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/pottering

    “Pottering around”

  82. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    That’s a good one. Now just add to it the wanton destruction of something that is elegant and reliable to replace it with some gaudy POS that breaks a lot and you have “Pottering Around Linux”…

    FWIW, My XU4 library of chips has been audited and reduced to just 2. An Ascii Devuan shared on the chip with a Gentoo experimental, and a Devuan 3.0 (Beowulf) that is a FrankenSystem of 3.0 userland over an Armbian kernel / boot / dtb set. (The 3.0 release is where they went to ‘community builds’ and looks like I’m the community… so at some future time I’ll remake the 3.0 properly…)

    Over time I’m migrating off of the Ascii build 2.0 onto the 3.0, but I’m not fully there yet. Want to drive it around a bit more first.

    So the XU4 is now my Daily Driver for all things technical.

    I’ve yet to get something for the Odroid N2, but now run it without the home directory on a hard disk (where moving the home directory seemed to confuse it… or confuse SystemD(mented) at least.) It will likely be converted last due to being newest with least choices out there and Hardkernel being uninterested in software so have only one (Ubuntu) offering. I’ll likely Franken it up too. Just put an aarch64 Devuan userland over the top of it.

    I’ve got several choices each for the RockPro64 and Rock64. Slackware, Gentoo, Devuan for the Pro64 at least, and BSDs. So the RockPro64 will be my next pruning target. I just need to assure myself that the Devuan I have for it is cleaned up a little (it boots to this horrid red screen wallpaper…). The Rock64 is currently just a dedicated i2p router so I’m going to ignore it until last (or something breaks…). Basically I don’t interact with it much at all, so there’s that.

    The Raspberry Pi set will be the most work just because I’ve got the most years of stuff piled up, 5 boards running, and by far the most OS choices to sort out. Then there’s the simple fact that only Raspian had i2p ready to go (the other Debian derivatives I’ve got for it being ASCII or earlier so no i2p in the repositories). OTOH, there IS a Devuan ASCII for it ;-) So mostly just deciding what old ‘left overs’ to pitch. I also have a nice Gentoo running on it with windows system… and a FreeBSD similarly. So it will have several options, but a lot of search and destroy needed. Probably will be ongoing for many months of finding and purging.

    Which leaves the Odroids C1 & C2, the Pine64, and 2 x Orange Pi One SBCs.

    These are largely unused ATM so can be slow-boated. The Pine64 has a lot of choices but will most likely just be NetBSD. The Odroids either that, or a Devuan Ascii / Frankensystem. Which leaves the problem children…

    The Orange Pi One is a very cheap nifty little board which for God Only Knows what reason is largely ignored by folks doing OS Ports. I’m deprecating it’s use in my shop just due to it being Chinese with Chinese SOCs, but so far have seen no evidence of any Bad Thing. I’ve got one with Armbian as my NFS File Server for 8 TB of stuff. So I’ll be particularly cautious about decommissioning that one. (LVM NFS is not a simple config…) The other one is up for grabs as a toy. I’m playing with other OS installs. Got Gentoo on it once IIRC and presently has NetBSD but having a problem with getting X-windows to open. It opens, blanks screen, then dies and I’m back at a prompt.

    So my “road map” is to get the XU4 (done), RockPro64 (mostly done), and the Odroid N2 (not even started) converted 100% away from any SystemD infestations and running stable with all my regular usage stuff for them in place. Then the Raspberry Pi Cluster (ought not be hard as they are all Devaun at present, either Jessie or Ascii, but mostly just sorting through a large collection of old images and downloaded installable images). Mostly just some consolidation and clean up archives. Maybe an update or two to Ascii or Beowulf…

    And then “the rest” as time and interest arrives. Sitting in a box is a low risk activity for SystemD issues ;-)

  83. E.M.Smith says:

    I’d gotten Devuan 2.0 ASCII to run on the XU4. Once I realized it was likely expecting to be on mmc… Now im a few hours into a “dist-upgrade” to 3.0 Beowulf. Seems to be going fine, but taking a while.

    The “apt-get dist-upgrade” moves you from one major release to the next (after changing repositories in apt/sources.list). This means there is a path from the last formal arm builds (ascii ftp sites) to Beowulf that does not require waiting for a community build.

    Guess what I’m doing for a couple of days….

  84. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, post reboot it worked! It, too, has the garish “cinnamon” more like drying blood red “login splash screen” that I first saw on the RockPro64 port. So I decided to “fix it”.

    It looks like it’s using lightdm and you edit:

    root@XU4uDevuan2:/lib# cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf

    Changing it from a couple of links to whatever; to an image. At least that’s the theory. We’ll know in a moment after I reboot and test it…

    UPDATE: Yay! It worked! no more revolting “what died in my monitor” color! Now I can do the same thing on the RockPro64, have those two be my two main systems, and move the Odroid N2 to the workbench.while I “Franken Up” a system for it, too.

    Between the ones with an Ascii starting distribution and those I can FrankenUp starting from Debian, I think I’m going to be able to make most of my systems “Devuan or BSD Only” in short order.

    The Raspberry Pi’s certainly (so 5 of them), the Odroid C1 & C2 for sure (Xu4 now done). Then I have the RockPro64 already and the Rock64 is a dedicated purpose right now, but also easy to do. The Pine64 does BSD and more so an easy one also.

    I think at the end of the day that just leaves the 2 x Orange Pi One boards where I’m pretty sure I can do a Franken System via their suppied Ubuntu kerne / boot and a Devuan userland (if nothing else) and I have BSD running on one already… and then the Odroid N2 where it is both new, so not a lot of OS builds, and Discontinued (in favor of the N2+ upgrade) meaning folks will not be seeing it as a preferred build target.

    Don’t know what I’ll do for it. Love the hardware, hate the OS choices. So it will sit on the lab bench for a while… till inspiration strikes.

    For now, time for bed having ended the night on a success ;-)

  85. p.g.sharrow says:

    Hurrah ! You have settled on Devuan as the OS of choice. That narrows the field a great deal so that now you can concentrate on it to customize for all the SBC shop uses/needs. As an upgrade on Debian that should simplify finding useful apps.
    I first studied the use of Desktops back in 1972, cool EXPENSIVE toy but not useful for anything. By 1986 it at least could do office work and a good used one was within my budget. Now I can have a Manufacturing business on my kitchen table, for a months pay!! Wish I had that 50 years back just for the opportunities missed and the years spent getting up to speed on computer things that became obsolete as fast as i mastered them…pg

  86. philjourdan says:

    Headline, read and not believed: “LA County DA Gascón slams ‘conservative media,’ ‘tough-on-crime types’ amid backlash from crime victims”

    What conservative media?

  87. another ian says:

    “”So we’ve got new hairstyles, maternity flight suits. Pregnant women are going to fight our wars,”


    Colin Buchanan has a song in tribute to the Wanaaring Road, a dirt road in western NSW. Among its achievements were shaking the bolts out of the mailman’s truck and delivering a baby.

    Is the US military going to up the ante to “delivery in high-G turns”?

  88. H.R. says:

    @philjourdan – Really? No kidding?!?

    What conservative media? Is Pravda still being published? If so, I suppose they count that as conservative media. What’s the North Korea daily news called? I suppose it doesn’t matter. They probably call that ‘conservative media’, too.

    Anything to the right of Stalin is ‘conservative media’. Stalin was a piker compared to today’s rabid left-left-left-leftists. Stalin “didn’t do it right.” But this time….

    Can you imagine how much diesel fuel will be required for the excavators needed to bury all of the victims? So much for the Green Nude Eel. CO2. AAAAAACKKKK!!!!!!

  89. jim2 says:

    Retired Army Sgt. Kenneth Harrelson Arrested for Attending Jan. 6 Protests – Family’s Bank Account Locked Down, Wife Loses Her Job, They Are Frightened and Don’t Know What to Do


  90. philjourdan says:

    @HR – I do not know! I cannot find any conservative news! Newsbusters? Pfft! They will not speak the name of the [p]resident biden (the p is silent as in psaki). American Thinker? Pfft! They are banning comments due to DOminion’s impotent lawsuit! Fox News? The one who called AZ incorrectly 72 hours before the fraud was set?

    I am Diogenes. And my lamp is lit..

  91. Compu Gator says:

    Argggh!  C’mon, folks!  The regulars in the Chiefio blog are waaay too intelligent to be propagating this increasingly common exercise in illiteracy:

    “[number] year  anniversary“. The latter word has been in use in English for 8 centuries: since Middle English (ca. 1200), adopted directly from the Mediæval Latin substantive [ᛡ], as trivially derived from the corresponding adjective: ann·us, -i (m.) + vert·ō, …, …, vers·um, thus anniversāri·us, -a, -um“, adj. meaning “turning + year”, thus “[something] recurring every year“. Same as it does in Modern English.

    Note ᛡ : https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=Anniversary.

    ⟨Elder: ᛃ A.S.: ᛡ⟩

  92. E.M.Smith says:


    I settled on Devuan as my preferred platform some year or two ago. BUT had found Armbian protected me against the evil things in SystemD, so was willing to use it in places where Devuan was not available or was a PITA to create.

    With the “split home directory” bug on Armbian, that protection left the building… So I’m finding alternative ways to get my desired product.

    (In the middle we had a couple of nasty surprises that stuck holes in my schedule… live Devuan deciding to make “ARM” releases “community supported”… )

    I’ve also settled in i2p as the primary vehicle for privacy / security layers (built into Debian / Devuan as of the latest release level). And TOR for anonymous clear-net browsing.

    BUT, to get that on Raspberry Pi required a release of the OS that wasn’t ported yet, so I used Raspbian for the test case (as i2p is in it).

    So now I’ve got the needed ability to “Roll my own” Buster / Beowulf based OS on the R. Pi M3. That will be the final step. Devuan 3.0 Beowulf on the Pi M3, with i2p installed (but not configured as that generates unique key sets at first launch). Including a Tor browser and a FireFox with the settings right. Then that can be shared out with the Tor facility for file sharing that gets past the need to have i2p to get an OS pre-configured with i2p…

    So I’m close to that last step of making a privacy / anonymity distribution & desktop.

    All the recipes are up already, but it needs assembly and polishing.


    You ever say “Sahara Desert”? How about “The la brea tar pits”? One is “desert desert” and the other is “the the tar tar pits”….

    Any time you mix some other language into base English you risk reduplications. It’s just what happens.

  93. another ian says:

    Hey E.M. Did you volunteer?

  94. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    No, I didn’t… I thought StoneHenge ran on GMT and so didn’t do the Savings Time thing? Besides, this is “spring forward” not “fall back” so the stones would need to be moved forward an hour, not back… SO those chaps will need to go reset them by 2 hours now ;-)

    Every ask anyone how to reset your sundial for Savings Time?

    Just Sayin’… Some you can, some you can’t. Depends a lot on the concrete foundations on some of them. Or others built onto walls…

    I like this one as it states it is GMT:

  95. Phil Younger says:

    A well made sundial like my grandfather made many of were always easy to calibrate. The heavy metal base could rotate in the limestone base pedestal. :) Just sayin—

  96. p.g.sharrow says:

    “Daylight Saving Time” I wish they throw that Dadgum thing away ! I’m a farmer that works day-light to dark so it only confuses and saves nothing. I built my cabin so that as I approach the front door (only door) my shadow centers the door at high-noon. Dang thing only works right in standard time so now I have to remember to convert due to the calendar day and acts of Congress. Now some Dumbass Congress Critter wants to make this boondoggle permanent ! BAH Humbug ! Eradicate the thing…pg

  97. H.R. says:

    @p.g. – Yah, SPIT!

    Due to some politician’s folly, now you’re going to have to rotate your whole house a few degrees.

  98. E.M.Smith says:

    I run this blog, and most of my computers, on UTC / Greenwich Mean Time. Why? Just so there’s that much less of “Daylight Fraud Time” to deal with. It doesn’t “save” any time. It wastes time by the millions of hours as folks run around resetting clocks and missing appointments.

    For a few years I ran my car clocks on UTC also. But after a few years got tired of doing the mental adjustment for both UTC and DST to get Pacific Time… Right now I’ve got 4 cars to go adjust because we haven’t driven all of them enough to get motivated to figure out, yet again, how the heck to change all the clocks. (Some have 2, one built into the car the other in the radio… for one of the cars I’d run one clock on UTC the other local time for a few years, now it’s more likely to be Standard Time and Daylight Savings Time split).

    Under (sotto voice): That Idiot Nixon, he extended the length of DST. The result was children walking to school in the dark, more accidents, and a general horrible experience in winter. You see, try as they might, when there’s only 8 or 9 hours of daylight, you can’t make more of it by getting up 2 hours before sunrise… Took us decades to get rid of it (and his stupid 55 mph speed limit) and get back to something more normal.


    Why bother with staying in sync with the “approved” time? Just run on Solar Time and think of the rest of the State as a foreign land with alien time. Only when interacting with that Alien Time Zone will you need to figure out what time they are running on…


    Unix / Linux includes a giant table of all the peculiar time zones and shifts in the world. Every G.Damn time some political ass somewhere in the world “diddles the time”, ALL the *Nix tables in the world must be updated. This so that the Linux / Unix machines don’t require manual intervention to set the clock right AND because “time stamps” are crucially important to computer security (certs / expiration) and software updates and more. The “wrong time” can cause your computer to fail. It’s a big deal.

    Whenever one of them (P.A.Holes…) diddles the clocks, a few million computers end up screwed because they didn’t update the table at Just The Right Time. (It must be done essentially in sync with the change of the clock rules in the real world). Now a lot of the time you may not notice if, say, India were to change time shift onset by a week; but for folks in that place it’s a bit issue AND if your computer talks to their computers… or your Tech Support is over there… or…

    As you might guess, this is a sore spot for me… having had to deal with it (on and off) for about 40 years…

    One of the more peculiar ones is Arizona. IIRC the Tribal Lands do DST (why? makes no sense to me…) while the rest of the State does not do DST. Another is India, where their time zones are 1/2 hour off from the rest of the world. I think it is due to wanting Noon to be at Solar Noon. Probably since a lot of folks don’t have clocks…

    Over the decades there’s been a constant move AWAY from DST as various countries (and a couple of States) have decreased the time covered or abandoned it entirely. It doesn’t do anything useful in the Tropics, so most of those using it have been middling northern latitudes. (Only at high latitudes do you get enough seasonal sunlight change for it to accomplish anything, then, as you get far North, the seasonal changes are so large that DST of one hour can’t do anything useful anyway…)

    So take Alaska and Canada: Think when you have 16 hours of daylight (or darkness) moving the other 8 (or less) by one hour will do anything that matters? Nope.

    Or take Ecuador: Think moving your nearly constant 12 hours of daylight one hour back and forth about the natural noon is going to do anything useful? Nope.

    So essentially it’s only of value in a band from about 35 to 50 degrees latitude (and then not for much).

    Were I in any of the Southern States I’d be pushing to join Arizona in the ditching of DST. The Dark Grey never did the idiocy, the light Grey did it, but have now stopped. The colored areas still deal with it:

    You can see that the “never had it” band tends to be the Tropics / Equatorial.

    Since we now run our economy basically 24 x 7 with folks working all sorts of silly schedules, there is no longer any justification for having folks on DST to be better able to get up early to work the farms in summer… what farmers are left have alarm clocks now…

    Looks to me like 4 countries (and one of them only a few States) and the entire Southern Hemisphere can be Time Tyranny Free…

    Northern Hemisphere is more problematic (though mostly Europe and the N.American batch). Canada is already starting to ditch it in some Provences, so just spread it to neighbors. Alaska ought to be pitching it pronto, really. Then the Smugglers Run area of Mexico / Arizona are on board… maybe the Cartels can persuade the rest of Mexico to dump it… I’d also suggest that the Gulf States band together and just dump it. A nice arc from Florida through Texas would be a sign of sanity in the South…

    Notice too the light grey. The majority of the world is “voting with their feet” to abandon the idea. Only the EU, USA, and Canada / Mexico are hanging on, and both Canada and Mexico are drifting toward ditching it (State by State…). Even Arizona has made the first move in the USA.

    (Now you know the source of my complaint about constantly updating DST tables… all those grey areas arriving one by one…)

    Were it up to me, I’d take all of the Southern Hemisphere off of DST as it’s almost there already and they can then more seamlessly integrate with neighbors. Then move all of Canada, Alaska, Mexico and any stragglers in the Caribbean off of it.

    That would basically limit it to “The Lower 48” and the EU (plus such “progressive” places as Iran and Lebanon…)

    At that point, pushing for a Southern Band succession from DST would have some good support from the way they interoperate with the Caribbean / Mexico / ROW and we could start the final push to eliminate it in the USA.

    Also, Britain, being out of the EU now, has a chance to just declare GMT as “IT” and be done. Just run on GMT and dump the rest of the baggage. That would then make it easier to nudge the EU away from “their problem” with shifting the sands of time…

    Well, a fella can dream, can’t he? ;-)

  99. E.M.Smith says:

    Hmmm…. EU, UK, Canada, USA….

    I’ve got it! We need to start calling Daylight Savings Time “White Man’s Time”!!

    See, it’s “racist” and exists so that The Man can work you harder and jerk you around. So just keep “correcting” folks who say DST to “white man’s time” and it will be killed off in no time…

    (I’d like to put a /sarc; tag on that, I really would, but I’m pretty sure it would work…)

  100. cdquarles says:

    I disagree a bit about daylight time. I live in a subtropical state. I am also east of the time zone prime meridian, so DST helps me, since I wake with the sun even if I don’t get up with it. That said, I’m likely an anomaly there. There is also the analemma to consider; for about 6 weeks before the solstice in autumn, the sun rises ahead of the local time zone meridian solar time by nearly 15 minutes. About 6 weeks after, the sun is about 15 minutes behind (so only for a couple of weeks in late Feb and early March is the noon on the dot, so to speak; then repeats later but never gets as close to it for the summer solstice). So, maybe the 30 minute offset folks are on to something, particularly if they are mostly tropical with a bit of subtropical areas included.

    In other news: https://www.scribd.com/document/498454585/2020-Presidential-Election-Contrast-Report, for the denizens here.

  101. cdquarles says:

    And more for that pile: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/03/the_sovereign_crime_of_industrial_scale_vote_fraud.html. How long has election fraud happened in the USA? At least 160 years, for it happened to Abraham Lincoln. What kind of fraud? Mail fraud.

  102. Power Grab says:

    @ EM re:
    “IIRC the Tribal Lands do DST (why? makes no sense to me…) while the rest of the State does not do DST.”

    I would guess it has to do with their involvement with the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA). It always seemed odd to me that the BIA tried to run the tribal business like a railroad. But that’s what bureaucrats do, right?

  103. Steve C says:

    I do agree about abolishing summer time, as we call it here. I keep all my clocks on GMT year-round, not least because I live in Greenwich’s country and it’s only about four and a half minutes ahead of local mean time. All I see in the summer is people pretending it’s an hour later than it is, saying it’s midday at eleven a.m., strange.

    Given that our daylight/nighttime hours here run from roughly 16/8 in summer to 8/16 in winter, I note too that all those businesses working “9 to 5” are actually (for most of the year!) working “8 to 4”, which would actually place their opening hours neatly within a midwinter’s day … but no, they work an hour later then, and go home in the dark rather than at dusk.

    Incidentally, on the Amateur Scientist CD, there’s a design for a sundial which reads clock time, using a curiously curved gnomon to take out the equation of time, a very nice example of human ingenuity at work.

  104. The True Nolan says:

    Digital sundials have been around for a while. There are several approaches to it, but recently there has been a surge of 3D printed versions.

    As for DST — I’m against it. That extra hour of evening sunlight burns my garden every summer.

  105. President Elect H.R. says:

    When I worked, the extra hour of DST evening light made it possible for the golf league I was in to finish out before dark.

    Shifting the evening daylight clock time also allowed me to get home from work, mow or do some other chore, fix dinner, and then I’d have about two hours +/- to fish the evening bass/bluegill feed.

    Then… I’d go catfishing after dark with some live bluegills to use for bait.

    But now that I’m retired, Every day is Saturday and I don’t give a hang about what the clock says unless I have an appointment and I have to interface with the real world.

    I generally get up at 4:30 to 5:30 am local time and go to bed anywhere from 11:30 to 1:30 pm. Someone has to go out and roust the rooster in the morning and put the raccoons to bed at night. Daylight comes and goes sometime during my waking hours.

    You can put me down in the “Who gives a flying freep?” column.

  106. E.M.Smith says:


    The Bank Robbers have now been elected to be the Bank Board and President. You expected them to NOT rob the bank?….

    Just remember, this is just the 2nd month of a 4 year run on the Bank…

  107. another ian says:


    Re your doorway – did you read about Brunel’s birthday?


  108. another ian says:

    “Moderna Begins Testing COVID Vaccine on Children Six Months to 12 Years Old”


  109. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – Perfect! But you still have to watch out for those Non believers who think it is still one hour earlier. Most are gathered around Stone Henge. :-)

  110. philjourdan says:

    Psst! Hey EMS – it was extended after NIxon as well. Talk is afoot to make DST (EDT time in my case) EST.

    Make it so.

  111. philjourdan says:

    @CD – #1 – I wake with or without the sun. It is called getting old.

    #2 – I do not read AT any more since they caved to Dominion (who is going to lose every case – the truth is always the perfect defense).

  112. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I’m looking over a set of Covid graphs including S. Dakota. It’s strange… Posting will be up soon as I get the graphs uploaded. Basically I can’t make much sense of why some are flat-line and some are spiking up. But what is very clear is that there’s some places with horrible outcomes and some with just fine thanks.

    I suspect a lot of it likely has to do with some factors we’re just not watching.

    One of them is likely some of that “take care of your own town” and folks in it attitude of places like S. Dakota and other rural areas. Some of it sun and willingness to use “alternative” remedies. Some of it may be a new strain, or not… (California vs UK is interesting as, in theory, California is a hot bed of the “new UK strain”…) But in any case, it does look like “the usual” thing of places that are more urban are the hardest hit by any disease.

  113. Ossqss says:

    @EM, who is watching and vetting testing and associated attribution reporting mechanisms for any of it during peak Flu season? Are hospital administrators still incentivized for Covid?

    Then we filter the excessive death data coming next.

  114. another ian says:

    Re DST

  115. Ossqss says:

    I have entered into the Mash up’s too far. Here is a poll, who remembers these songs and see’s Hulk Hogan in it? LOL

  116. YMMV says:

    The sun-time-zone changes are like Groundhog Day. It is featured twice a year in the media, there is a discussion about it, complete with articles proving it is dangerous, the politicians say they will make a decision, then nothing happens until the next time change event.

    I should make a list of other things that will or could happen before they get rid of it. Fusion power, fossil fuel free utopia, the next ice age, Hillary admits she lost, …

    What ever happened to the EU? They were going to abolish time changes by 2021. Guess what.

  117. another ian says:

    “the politicians say they will make a decision,”

    Known here as a toilet bowl decision – they’ll look into it

  118. Steve C says:

    @Ossqss (Mar. 8th) – By a nice synchronicity, I treated myself to a similar camera when Aldi had one in recently for £40. Mine has a moulded-on handle, but it looks like yours has a longer snake. This is mine:
    But yes, if you want to see what’s living in your cavity walls, or what’s down the plughole, great fun – though whether you’d want to put it into your mouth after some of the places mine’s been …

    And yes, when I wanted to compare products, I found your link goes to Kindle for me too. In Pale Moon it takes me to a Kindle page which tells me to use a different browser, and in the Tor browser to a page which looks as if it’s apologising for not finding the page, in whatever language it was, but still headed “Kindle”. If E.M.’s getting to Amazon from the same link, maybe the Internet’s caught systemd 8-0

  119. jim2 says:

    BREAKING: Judge Rules MI Sec. of State Benson Directed City Clerks to Ignore Signature Matching Law on Absentee Ballots in Nov. 2020 Election
    March 16, 2021

    Georgia Judge “Inclined to Order [Absentee] Ballots Unsealed” for Review By Election Integrity Watchdog Experts
    Georgia Judge “Inclined to Order [Absentee] Ballots Unsealed” for Review By Election Integrity Watchdog Experts
    Mar 16, 2021

    Washington Post and CNN Caught Lying About Trump’s Call With GA SOS Election Investigator After Recording of Call Was Found In “Trash” Folder
    March 15, 2021


  120. jim2 says:

    UPDATE: Judge Rules that the Group ‘Voter GA’ Can Unseal Fulton County Georgia Ballots and Inspect Them for Invalid Votes in the 2020 Election


  121. jim2 says:

    A wave of support is rising in Arizona to recall the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors among other key leaders in the state. The ‘We the People Arizona’ alliance has hosted rallies and collected signatures to recall the state’s leader, who they believe played a role in covering up alleged election fraud in the state.


  122. E.M.Smith says:


    I suspect a few politicians are discovering that they can’t hide everything while a large number of voters are discovering that they find Biden a broken and worthless “leader”… and were decieved…

    Easiest way to fix this might just be from the bottom up to “discover” the election really was for Trump…


    In California, about 2 years ago, we voted to remove the time change. Our “political leadership” interpreted this to mean that THEY could put us on perpetual Daylight Saving Time, when most people thought it meant “just leave us on Standard Time”.

    The change to Standard Teim can be done by any State at any time (Hawaii & Arizona…) while the change to perpetual DST is not allowed by Federal Law… so California, despite a law saying “Stop[it, just STOP IT!” is still doing it as some Political Animals want us on Mountain Standard Time (i.e. perpetual DST) instead of Pacific Standard Time year round (i.e. close to solar time).

    They are petitioning the Federal Government for a legal change to let them do what they want instead of doing what the people voted for as the only legal option when they passed the law. (People’s petition…)

  123. p.g.sharrow says:

    This is becoming an interesting aftermath to the 2020 election. The people are beginning to discover that they overwhelming voted Republican and Trump and then the political class/bureaucratic machine selected Democrats and Biden/Harris in-spite. The aftermath of this will give us a real change from the statice-quo. The grass roots attack against political business as usual is the only way to force real change in how the Republic is managed. First step is fix our buggered election system. Politicians and bureaucrats can not be trusted to be honorable…pg

  124. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, that was a lot more dramatic than I expected….

    As part of the AwShit fallout from SystemD not being able to keep home directory path names straight, from the Odroid N2 having “issues” with split home dir locations:

    I’d moved the Odroid N2 to the workbench as I’ll need to put a FrankenSystem on it. Basically took it out of service until I can Franken up a hybrid of some sort. Likely Armbian kernel /boot dtb; but with a Devuan aarch64 Userland on top.

    Pending my completing that, I decided to move the Odroid XU4 to the bedroom / TV station where the N2 had been. Now I’d made a nice Beowulf 3.0 Devuan on it (at last… figured it out) and it was doing just Dandy Desktop Duty for me in the office. I had a 2 GB disk plugged into it for holding system images of various sorts and all kinds of “in transit” bits.

    I’d also put my home directory on that 2 GB along with a swap partition since, well, why not?

    Everything was fast and smooth and that 2 GB disk was USB 3.0 and used the 3.0 port on the XU4 nicely. But that disk had things used in the office / lab, so I moved it off the XU4 and used a home directory on the uSD card.

    Expected something similar in snappy performance after the move of location…

    But didn’t get it…

    I had LONG pauses at times when changing tabs, opening the browser, all sorts of things. Just out of the blue, no response to the keys for a good 20 count. Sometimes longer. Then it would catch up.


    I decided to add a hard disk. HOWEVER, the USB 3.0 ports are facing me and I put the “dongle” nubbie for the Logitech keyboard in one of them. Plugging a disk in next to it dramatically shortens the range of whatever radio signal it is using, so could not plug the disk in there unless I wanted the keyboard / trackpad 2 feet from it, which sort of defeats the purpose… But I figured, what the heck, just plug the disk in the USB 2.0 slot in the back. Slow, but acceptable. I hope.

    I then proceeded to put swap on a partition on the disk (instead of the uSD card). FWIW, like Linus, I am a curmudgeon and prefer a swap PARTITION to a swap FILE. Per a link from (Power Grab? I think it was?) Linux devo had a small ooopsy were swap FILES lost track of starting block. This scribbled random swap pages all over the rest of your disk partition… This is the kind of reason I never really liked swap FILES as they do work fine, but with one less protection for oopsies… So I try to put a small swap PARTITION on every uSD with a system; and every USB hard disk, just in case I need one. (And 1 or 2 GB out of 2 TB is a small price…)

    This seemed somewhat faster after bring up, but as nothing much was swapping anyway, I figured it was likely more perception than reality. But maybe it moved swap query activity to a different channel…

    I then proceeded to put /var on a 4 GB partition on the hard disk and /home/ems on a 4 GB partition on the hard disk. Then rebooted.

    Now I’ve go zero pauses, delays, lags, whatever. It’s just Damn Fast and smooth.


    I think it is I/O contention between system reads (program loads) log writes, etc AND swap AND all that browser cache and access time update activity all going against the one uSD card.

    Move a bunch of it to the hard disk, and now the contention is gone.

    Oddly, watching HTOP it often did not show a D short term / disk wait symbol on any task when the pause happened. Maybe the pause prevented it from updating, or maybe it was on a page further down off screen, or maybe it just doesn’t track that kind of I/O clog wait. Who knows.

    But what’s very interesting to me is that even with a slow USB 2.0 spigot to the disk, the browser and such is now fluid fast and smooth.

    One possible is that cache writes from the browser hit the “read a large chunk, update a few bytes, then write a large chunk back out” action of uSD / SD cards. So every minor cache write from the browser monopolized the card long enough for the OS to need to take a pause… I suspect that’s the biggest hit.

    But Note To Self:

    When at all possible, put your home directory on a bit of media / USB disk other than the one with the operating system on it.

    For now, the XU4 is back to being fast and snappy and without any pauses or lags.

  125. another ian says:


    At the start of the day our Health Bureaucrats were telling, ‘’she’ll be right mate – no worries’’.

    And the media were demonising anyone that suggested Australia should not rush, and take advantage of lessons and mistakes from overseas countries.

    By day’s end, they are now urging people with a history anaphylaxis to avoid AstraZenca’s Covid product offerings.


  126. philjourdan says:


    What ever happened to the EU? They were going to abolish time changes by 2021. Guess what.

    They go on at the end of March – Just spoke with AVE (antony) and he had to get use to we started without them this week.

  127. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – Re Fake time

    And Indiana.

  128. philjourdan says:

    @PG SHarrow

    This is becoming an interesting aftermath to the 2020 election. The people are beginning to discover that they overwhelming voted Republican and Trump and then the political class/bureaucratic machine selected Democrats and Biden/Harris in-spite. The aftermath of this will give us a real change from the statice-quo.

    They stole an election Bigly, What makes you think they will not steal every one from now on? They had the cooperation of the courts, the DOJ, and Big Tech. They did it nakedly and with no thought of repercussions. So what makes you think they will not do it again? They are ramming through HR1 will will codify the steal in every future election.

    You have more freedom in Putin’s Russia,which is now going to war with us due to the dottering old fool Biden!

  129. jim2 says:

    Phil @ https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/03/07/w-o-o-d-7-mar-2021/#comment-141043

    That’s exactly what I’ve been telling people. If we had any entity on “our” side it would help. Without the Courts, we are road kill. I’m sure the States will take plenty of cases to court, but if that doesn’t pan out, what then? Sheriffs actually are the King of their domain. If enough of them rebel, or if enough military/law enforcement types honor their oath to the Constitution, then we might stand a chance. But that won’t be pretty. And, well, it doesn’t have to be.

  130. philjourdan says:

    @Jim2 – 2nd amendment.

  131. another ian says:

    My Democrat Friends are Getting Very Embarrassed”


    Via Tip of the Spear

    Posted on another thread but fits the flow here better

  132. E.M.Smith says:

    Interesting… so the EU may be done with DST changes this year:


    EU Wants to Remove DST Permanently
    In 2019, the European Parliament voted in favor of removing Daylight Saving Time (DST) permanently. It will be up to each Member State to decide whether to remain permanently on “summer time” (DST) or to change their clocks back one final time to permanent standard time, also known as “winter time.”

    DST Removal Not Likely in 2021
    The likelihood of the EU abolishing DST in 2021 is very slim. Europe, like the rest of the world, has been busy handling the health and economic effects of Covid-19.

    Negotiations have not yet started in the European Council, making it very unlikely for the new rules—even if agreed rapidly—to apply in 2021.

    The draft law proposes that 2021 will be the last time EU Member States and affiliated countries follow the seasonal clock change. For this reason, all subsequent clock changes in European nations are marked as preliminary on timeanddate.com.


    Countries Decide Their Time
    Under the draft directive, each Member State will decide whether to remain permanently on “summer time” or to change their clocks back one final time to permanent standard time, also known as “winter time.”

    Opponents are worried that this could lead to a patchwork of time zones across Europe. This could cause a fragmentation of the European market, destabilizing the union at a time when the integrity of its single market is in question.

    When Will DST Stop in Europe?
    According to the initial draft, countries that decide to stay on permanent DST were to make their final clock change on March 28, 2021 without changing their clocks back to standard time on October 31, 2021. In contrast, the countries that decide to remain on standard time all year were to set their clocks forward one hour for DST on March 28, 2021 and then back again for the final time on October 31, 2021.

    However, as mentioned above, it is now very unlikely that this schedule will be observed. A new date will probably be set once the European Council resumes its discussions on the directive.

    Possibly Two Time Zones under Brexit
    Brexit, the United Kingdom’s withdrawal from the European Union, is also causing a bit of a hiccup regarding the DST debate.

    Worst case, the island of Ireland could end up with two time zones, Northern Ireland following the time the UK decides to use and the Republic of Ireland, an EU Member State, observing another time zone. However, both the UK and Ireland have vowed to oppose the EU’s proposal to abolish the seasonal clock changes.

    You folks in the UK and Ireland will need to work on that ;-)

    I note with a touch of amusement and some annoyance that “timeanddate.com” does not put the time nor date of articles on their articles so I’ve no idea which of these is first and last…

    This one says it’s a done deal and this is the last year / time change:



    The European Parliament and the Council of Ministers have voted to end the use of daylight saving time or summer time in the European Union in 2021. Member States will have until April 2020 to choose the observation of summer time or winter time year round. On Sunday March 28, 2021 each Member State will observe daylight saving time as previously scheduled. At the end of the scheduled daylight saving time period on Sunday October 31, 2021 Member States that have chosen to remain on summer time year round will not change their clocks. Member States that have chosen to remain on winter time year round will turn their clocks back one hour one last time.

    BACKGROUND: The European Commission officially proposed to end the use of daylight saving time or summer time in the European Union. In the summer of 2018 the Commission opened a public consultation on the issue and received 4.6 million responses. The public consultation was created as a result of pressure from the European Parliament, Member States, businesses and citizens. The resulting response of the public consultation was 84% in favor of ending daylight saving time.

    As a result of the responses to the official public consultation in favor of ending daylight saving time the European Commission determined it would be best to allow Member States to individually choose to observe summer time or winter time year round. This would essentially have the effect of determining which standard time zone to observe on a year round basis. The proposal of the European Commission was put to the European Parliament and Council for a final decision.

    So looks like the EU is going to be free of the Time Fraud Plague…

    That will just leave North America, scattered bits of the Anglosphere, and a couple of stragglers in South America and the Middle East…

    That’s great!

    Now if we can just get the Anglosphere to dump it…

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  134. jim2 says:

    To them, 2020 election fraud was an industrial level crime. It was of such magnitude that it moved from the category of an election crime to a sovereign crime.

    Sovereign crime. It does have a ring to it.

    Sovereign crime is not something we see a lot of in America as our governmental institutions are generally not organized to commit, support or hide a crime.

    Most Americans have never seen an organized crime take place, in plain view, supported by or covered up by governmental institutions. But it happens all the time around the world, even in some countries that are quite Westernized.

    Sovereign crime means your government was a participant, active or passive, enabling vote fraud.

    Governors and secretaries of state refusing to cleanse voter rolls, refusing to check signatures for mail-in ballots – even during recounts, changing the voting rules weeks before an election, qualifies as your government messing with your vote.

    The national government refusing to investigate the most egregious examples of voter fraud like hundreds of thousands of more ballots than voters in several states, that is a pretty good indicator that they are passive participants in industrial level vote fraud.

    The refusal of the FBI to fully investigate Jesse Morgan’s truck with the hundreds of thousands of ballots going from New York to Pennsylvania – yet dispatching agents to a NASCAR location to investigate a garage pull-down they hoped was a noose – well, that’s a good indicator, too.

    Wait, we’re not done here.

    The United States Postal Service managers telling employees to backdate ballots so they could be counted illegally. Does that sound like your government – sovereign government – participating in vote fraud?

    Our team noted that this might be the first time in American history that the government from the states to the national to its agencies coordinated to either fake the vote or hide the faking.


  135. E.M.Smith says:


    The question is how do we prosecute and punish those criminals when they have stolen or broken all the mechanisms of law? Is there a peaceful way out of this mess?

    We know that suppression of the people eventually leads to revolution, but that also tends to be AFTER economic collapse and a whole lot of deaths and misery. I’d rather not go that way…

  136. another ian says:

    “Finally, Something Appropriate to Do with the Climate Section of the NY Times!”


  137. The True Nolan says:

    @ E.M. “Is there a peaceful way out of this mess?”

    Let me be clear that I am speaking on an abstract level and am NOT advising anyone to commit violence or especially aggression. The truth is, there are LOTS of situations which cannot be resolved peacefully. That is why police are armed. That is why the military is armed. That is also why the 2nd Amendment is in place. That is why millions of people choose to carry a weapon of some type. That is why other millions of people study martial arts for self defense.

    In the last 50 years or so there has been a large scale effort (both governmental and private) to convince the average American that ONLY governmental employees are appropriate to employ violence. That is a 180 degree turn from the principles which the US was founded on, and is in fact a violation of natural law and natural rights. The only reason why people fall for that propaganda is that the US system has been so very successful in reducing the individual need for employment of violence that we have began to think that individual use of violence is both unethical and unneeded. Any study of history will show what happens to cultures that prevent or criminalize justified individual violence and replace it completely with organized governmental violence.

    I am still hoping for a (mostly) peaceful resolution, but the truth is, we are already experiencing multiple non-peaceful effects from over legislation, restrictions of freedom, speech and travel. When I am told that in order to travel I must be poked, prodded, and made to “show my papers” or else I will be arrested and put in a cage, then I am already a victim of violence. Every time a person is mugged because they have been disarmed by city or state ordinance, the responsibility for that violence is split between the criminal and the lawmakers. The point being, we are already exposed to non-peaceful experiences because of our political and cultural norms. IF (big if) there is NOT a peaceful resolution possible, we will not be offering a violent solution for a peaceful problem — we will be responding to a violent problem with a violent solution. As much as I dislike the idea of it, I am concerned that TPTB will not go gentle.

  138. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – well, with any country declaring a half or quarter hour meridian, who cares? Just settle on one time zone and be done with it! Had a call with a Dutch bank.. They scheduled and thought it was 9:30 ET. We had to remind them it was 10:30 as we do DST on the second Sunday in March while they do it on the last Sunday in March. So going to one time will be a lot easier (especially for our Indian employees who do not do the fake DST). I am all for it,

    Let the current time remain! Just after you give me my stolen hour back (just kidding).

  139. jim2 says:

    CIO said: The question is how do we prosecute and punish those criminals when they have stolen or broken all the mechanisms of law?

    That’s the $64,000 dollar question, Chief. I won’t be getting that money soon, I’m thinking.

  140. philjourdan says:

    The question is how do we prosecute and punish those criminals when they have stolen or broken all the mechanisms of law? Is there a peaceful way out of this mess?


  141. philjourdan says:

    @TTN – Waiting for Godot

  142. The True Nolan says:

    Great comment regarding the leftist vs conservative use of violence:

    “It is important to remind anyone you are discussing these issues with that YOU are taking the non-violent side of the argument, while THEY are taking the side that requires violence, demands compliance, and destroys freedom. When you take the position of voluntary cooperation, anything else will require force or violence. Anytime anyone suggests that government solve the problem, they are saying that they no longer wish anyone to have the right to say “NO.” And any suggestion that requires or involves government, also involves the use of violence, guns, cages, and even death for non-compliance. YOU came into the argument with the desire to address the issue peacefully, while no matter what they are proposing (unless it is agreement with your solutions that restore freedom), is a violent means of addressing the issue.

    That is why principles matter as well. You cannot sort of advocate for freedom and free choice. You cannot sort of advocate voluntarism, while also advocating that the government be there to make sure of this or that. Most importantly, you don’t need to know every detail of the issue to present the voluntary cooperation argument. Who owns the property, who owns their own body, whose money is it, are all things that can be well-defined, even if more fact-finding is required.

    And the fact is, government has stuck its nose into EVERYTHING. Whether solar, wind, nuclear, oil, or whatever are better is immaterial. NONE should benefit from the government stealing from others, stealing land rights, stealing money to pay for armies to defend, stealing monies to handle waste disposal costs, or whatever. ONLY the free market can decide, and the property rights of everyone must be upheld and enforced. But these kinds of arguments also undermine many so-called conservatives as well, because they too have come to believe that government should be promoting one thing or another (just THEIR thing over someone else’s). So unless you are advocating that government should completely get out of the picture, you too are advocating for violence….just violence that you are ok with.”

  143. E.M.Smith says:

    And there’s the problem… (“Aye now, there’s the rub”)

    I hate with a profound passion any use of violence, as I was subjected to far too much of it by “neighborhood kids” growing up. I’ve studied martial arts and become proficient with many weapons precisely so that I may never need to use them. I’m good at chemistry (‘nuf said…).

    Yet I find myself being pushed to do the thing I most despise to prevent a greater violence.

    I still hope there will be a better outcome before we reach that point. But all I see is hard core full on VIOLENCE of every sort from The Left.

    Folks can only ignore that so long, and it started so long ago I’m not sure of the date anymore.

    I don’t really want to be “Officially Defined By Law” as a criminal for doing exactly what was patriotic for the last 200 years… but if need be, I’m willing to end my legacy in a burst of glory for what once was. Just not, I think, today… Before that day, I’m best used as a source of information on “sources and methods” of “kinetic disassembly” of those who hate America and the Constitution. I think I’ve got about a year before I need to start putting up a Dark Web “cook book” on that. I hope others will “go there” before me and I can spend my retirement years fishing on the beach instead.

    So, for better or worse, I’m seeing my “contribution” coming long after things are clearly “in the soup” and going kinetic in major ways. I intend to be “fishing on the beach” if at all possible until my natural demise. But if it reaches that point where a guy on Medicare is what’s left, well then, I’ll know that day.

    We are not there yet. But I think I can see it from here…

  144. E.M.Smith says:


    Per the Spying Society:

    And folks accused me of being paranoid because of what I saw being created…

    There’s a reason I check email about once every 6 months…
    There’s a reason I don’t “do” the abomination called “social media”…
    There’s a reason I rarely actually use my cell phone and discourage folks calling it…
    There’s a reason I spend hundreds of hours / year working to make my computer use just a tiny bit more secure and private.
    There’s a reason I’m now moving oh so slowly onto the Dark Web. For it is the only place left with a modicum of privacy and anonymity…

    And all of that from a Bonafide White Hat who has spent DECADES defending against “Bad Guys” and who was a Law Enforcement Eagle Scout… I’ve had security clearance to work on Federal Reserve Bank stuff. I’m a certified Good Guy in oh so many ways.

    And I’m afraid of what my government has become.

    Oh Well. IF I’m lucky, I’ve got a decade of “time on the beach” before I’m just another meat lump in a “care” facility and it is all someone else’s problem. (IFF I’m very unlucky, this all blows up in the next few years and it’s a SHTF moment and I’ve got no option of running to a beach in Panama…)

    We’re on the “cusp of history”, also known as “straddling the fence of destiny” and “the boys” do not like fence straddling… so I hope this resolves peacefully and soon. Sadly, I see no desire for peace nor resolution from The Left. Only a desire for Violent “Revolution”…

    I’d really really like to get off this fence and onto a beach with a fishing pole… but that option looks like it is receding at great speed lately.

    The good news? It takes no real skill at all to be a Martyr! So, worst case, I can be a real honest to God Martyr and it won’t even be hard to do! I could get into that.

    Hey, I’m going to die, likely in a prolonged and miserable way, stuck with needles and machinery and with zero control over my fate, or even my own body. Compared to that, “Martyr To The Cause” has a nice ring to it. Hell, in court you get a nice chair and coffee, and in a cell you get free medical care and meals. No lawn to mow. No dogs to feed. No car maintenance bills. No home repairs. You don’t even have to take out the trash or respond to the IRS. I think I could make enough “splash” in interviews to be “That Guy” that they really really wished they had not arrested…

    I mean really, think about it. I’d have a potentially Global Forum. I’m pretty good with words. I have some clue about how to handle media (had formal training in it). And I’d just LOVE the media food fight. It would be a hell of a lot more fun to be twisting the semi-brains of lawyers and urinalists into knots with daily proclamations than to be stuck in a “care home” watching reruns of Days Of Our Lives…

  145. E.M.Smith says:

    CNN ratings down almost 50% (47%) what with Trump out of the news. Poor Babies…


    I know my “news” consumption has dropped to nearly zero since:

    a) it is all lies anyway.
    b) they just do not matter anymore. Dimocrats got away with the Big Steal so nothing else matters.
    c) Celebrities? Please do not make me vomit.
    d) it isn’t even interesting anymore.
    e) I don’t like watching Leftist Progressives giving each other blow jobs.
    f) Idiocy is not attractive.

    FWIW, I’ve been watching re-runs of 1960 to 1964 Danger Man / Secret Agent. It is FAR more interesting, much more honest, and has actually good acting with nice plots and is actually interesting. CNN can’t even come close. Frankly, the idea of watching CNN has me feeling churn in the stomach and wanting to go visit the smallest room in the house.

    I find it rather telling that I’ve “binge watched” 3 years of Danger Man / Secret Agent and zero of {CNN, MSNBC, FOX, NBC News, CBS News, ABC News, Bloomberg, CNBC and more…} AND I’m very happy about it.

    This from their prime News Junkie Audience of the ’80s, ’90s, 0ught-ies, and to some extent even into the 20-somethings… I’ve gone from close to 7 hours a day of news intake, to essentially zero.

    Why bother?

    There isn’t any actual NEWS in the “news” so that’s a waste of time.

    There isn’t any REASON to care about the “news” as the Dimocrats will not be caring about voter attitudes since we no longer matter; only the machine count that they control matters.

    MY Opinion is no longer of relevance to anyone, not even me, so why waste time forming an opinion on the “news”.

    Watching fools tell lies isn’t even entertaining any more. A $5 bottle of good wine is better “value for money” even with the news being “free”…

    The basic problem is that it isn’t interesting to be lied to and we KNOW the news, celebrities, and “media” are just lying for effect; then season that with even if you have an opinion it isn’t relevant in a system with rigged fraudulent voting. So what’s the best thing you can do with your media time? Watch shows that are entertaining, that do have some fundamental truths in them, and that have some actual value for time spent. Turns out a lot of them are in Black & White and with Traditional Themes. Add a 6-pack or bottle of Vino and you are golden.

    Competition, it’s a thing…

    Short Form:

    When your “value added” is negative, even doing nothing is a net win.

  146. jim2 says:

    The Republicans keep emailing me for money as if they saved Trump’s Presidency.

  147. Ossqss says:

    Wait, what did he say today?

  148. H.R. says:

    @jim2 – During President Trump’s initial campaign for his first term, we quit sending any money to the RNC. We started sending money directly to the campaigns of the people we supported. The pleas for money from the RNC started going straight into the recycle bin.

    The RNC mailings are w-a-a-a-y down now, but we still get a few and they still try to trade on Trump’s name. I am wondering if Mrs. H.R. sent back one of the mailings with “No way in hey-all will you ever get another penny from me” scrawled over the mailing in black Sharpie.

    I know she intended to do that. I can’t recall whether or not she did, but the slow-down in mailings makes me think she did get a round tuit. Oh wait… now I remember. I did that. 😁

    You might give something like that a try. Let ’em know you know what a bunch of snakes the RNC Uniparty is and any other choice words that come to mind. Don’t hold back unless your Sharpie is running short of ink. 😜

  149. p.g.sharrow says:

    @HR; LOL ! I’ll tell that story to my XYL. She is totally feed up with the GOP as well….pg

  150. Steve C says:

    @E.M. – Re. Danger Man, is that the British original you’re rewatching, starring Patrick McGoohan? (sorry, I don’t know whether there have been any remakes). If so, you might well enjoy his later series, his own creation, “The Prisoner”, which aired here at the end of the sixties and is a true TV masterpiece. It became an instant cult at the time and imo has remained so – I even have a copy of the special typeface they designed for it.

    Brief outline: A secret agent (McGoohan) retires, angrily, intending to leave the country, but he is ambushed and wakes up in “The Village”. This is a strange place where people are known by numbers rather than names (he is No.6) and where shadowy figures – we never find out “which side” runs the place – try to break him and ascertain exactly why he resigned. He makes, of course, numerous unsuccessful attempts to escape. (The Village, btw, is Portmeirion, in North Wales, an attractively Italianate personal project of the architect Sir Clough Williams-Ellis.)

    17 one-hour episodes, and I think a Danger Man enthusiast would thoroughly enjoy it – I still do half a century on. “Be seeing you”.

  151. The True Nolan says:

    @H.R. The RNC will never have access to my money again. Years back I was getting mailings from the Southern Poverty Law Center, and some of them had the prepaid return envelopes. You would be amazed how much other junk mail you can stuff into one of those envelopes before mailing it back.

    @E.M. Although most of us here are not as eloquent as you (and not as multi-talented either) I suspect that your opinions are near universal among your readers. They certainly mirror mine. I would prefer almost anything over engaging in overt violence. Hell… I’ve been a vegetarian for over a half century. But there are, in fact, some things which simply cannot be allowed.

    It is telling that our economic system is to a great extent responsible for the proliferation of corruption, and that one of the most popular quotes from Keynes is that “In the long run we are all dead.” That attitude is part of the problem, because in the long run, WE are not all dead. YOU will be dead, I will be dead, HE, SHE and IT will be dead — but WE keeps going on in the form of our children, grandchildren, friends and neighbors, even those we never met. We have some responsibility to WE.

  152. The True Nolan says:

    @Steve C: “you might well enjoy his later series, his own creation, “The Prisoner””

    Great show. My wife and I rewatched the entire series about a year ago. We are currently running through the old “Twilight Zone” series. She did not have a TV as a child so they are all new to her. It has been surprising how many minor cultural memes that show was responsible for.

  153. cdquarles says:

    This is interesting: https://twitter.com/gerdosi/status/1372927642563973122https://twitter.com/gerdosi/status/1372927642563973122, but why do folk have tunnel vision over insulin and overlook the other insulin-like peptides, which includes the somatomedin family?

  154. cdquarles says:

    Here is another one that is interesting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5607155/, yet again, why are people not remembering that this happens in natural infections as well (cough, mumps, cough; among others)?

  155. cdquarles says:

    That reminds me, I ran across a report that said some corona viruses, via autoimmune action, also induce Type 1 diabetes. Again, that should not be surprising. All successful organisms or parasites, alter their local environments to enhance their own survival.

  156. cdquarles says:

    What I didn’t remember, though, is that Type I diabetes seems to be more common the further away from the equator the general, locally adapted, population lives. Hmm, that seems like a similar thing to multiple sclerosis, another autoimmune illness. As with other good things, deficiency or excess of a vital nutrient is suboptimal; where suboptimal itself varies and will often have wider variation within groups than between them.

  157. cdquarles says:

    And there is this: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.18.435972v1.full.pdf. Limitations: small numbers and uses p-values. This is a preliminary report, also; but likely will be used for political purposes.

    That said, I am not surprised that the mRNA vaccines work, nor am I surprised at autoimmune mediated complications. They are based on decades of work examining how natural infections occur and what happens at the cell and tissue level first then at the organ level. This is an in-vitro work, as well; so may not generalize well to what happens in the wild.

    A point in favor of the mRNA vaccines: they seem to also induce IgA as well as IgG; whether given to someone who has been exposed to this strain of betacoronavirus or not.

  158. philjourdan says:

    Mann got the boot in court – https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-judge-dismisses-case-penn-state-climate-professors-case-against-national-review

    NR says they are going after attorney fees. GOOD! I hope they win that as well.

    The Hokey stick is still the hokey stick.

  159. H.R. says:

    Mrs. H.R. and I went out for lunch today. She’s always discussed being cremated here and there over the years.

    While waiting for our order, out of the blue she says, “I’d like to be buried.”

    Realizing she had always said she wanted to be cremated, and knowing she’d be dead and wouldn’t really have a say, she asked me, “How would you like me to go?”

    I said, “Quietly.”
    (We started laughing so hard people began to wonder what the heck happened in the restaurant that they missed that was so darn funny.)

  160. Taz says:

    COVID-19 pneumonia diagnosis by using CT texture mapping

    I publisched my little research work on zeronet because none on academics want to listen me… this way is better than forgetting it in my hard drive. By using this method maybe we can diagnose COVID-19 pneumonia by using CT or RX instead nasopharyngeal swab. the same method maybe can be used also to evaluate the prognosis of the patients and also the same math can be used in other field than medicine. What do you think? i made also other works like this with other image types (from astronomy to material science) that i will happy to share here if anyone is interested.

  161. cdquarles says:

    Could you make a .pdf and copy that to our host?

  162. H.R. says:

    Taz – Something is amiss with your link. I’m not getting anywhere with it. Could be a “choice of browser” thing. I dunno, but for whatever reason I got nuttin’.

  163. philjourdan says:

    Similar to others, but I have never given to the RNC. I have given to republicans. As for my vote, I have only one question – Does Trump support you? I know the answer to “Do you Support Trump”, but that is bullshit as I am sure Murkowski et. al. can claim that at some point.

  164. another ian says:

    Seems more people might be spelling it “CN f’ N”?

  165. jim2 says:

    Apparently, Arizona is going to do a HAND recount of the 2020 ballots! Why they don’t get Jovan Pulitzer involved is a mystery to me!


    Arizona lawmakers are ordering another recount of ballots cast in the 2020 presidential election, this time by hand.

    On Thursday, the GOP-controlled Arizona Senate announced its intentions to conduct the audit of more than 2 million ballots from Maricopa County.

    The Senate won a court order late last month, granting them access to ballots and voting machines. Officials believe this will be daunting for any audit firm, citing the need for secure facilities and substantial manpower.

    “We’ve had to do recounts in the past, on just doing it, running them through the machines. It is a nightmare, we’re talking about over 2 million ballots,” Helen Purcell, former Maricopa County recorder said. “How that’s going to be accomplished and what period of time, I have no idea.”


  166. Jim Masterson says:

    Officials believe this will be daunting for any audit firm . . . .
    I'm sure Dominion would claim the ability to handle the recount.


  167. jim2 says:

    JM – it looks to me like they want to signal the desire to audit the ballots, but don’t want it to succeed.

  168. E.M.Smith says:

    Taz link is a ZERONET link. You must be in zeronet for it to work.

    Guess I’ve got me Round Tuit for booting up a zeronet instance ;-)

    Per Counting Ballots:

    2 Million Ballots. Figure just looking at POTUS, A generous 5 seconds to see, recognize, and hit a tally marker. So 10 Million person-seconds.

    A typical work week is 40 hours, but you get closer to 30 after Bio-Breaks, check in, set up, etc. 30 hours x 60 minutes x 60 seconds = 108,000 person-seconds of useful work time per person-week.

    108,000 / 5 = 20,000 ballots processed per person-week

    2,000,000 / 20,000 = 100 person weeks.

    Assuming government is 1/2 as efficient as anyone else, that’s a team of 200 people for a week. Figure you need double that to have a check / balance, call it 400. Then figure 100 “managers”, secretaries and other hangers on… So a staff of about 500 in for a week.

    Just to push it, assume they are 4 x slower than that and need 500 people driving trucks and pushing carts around. A staff of 1000 still ought to be done in one month with 1/3 of a week left over.

    I’m not seeing where this is “impossible” at all. PITA? Sure, but impossible? Not at all.

    When I was at Apple, they had about 15,000 employees. I’m pretty sure Arizona can find 1000 people looking for a job.

    Arizona Unemployed
    The number of people unemployed in Arizona peaked in April 2020 at 504,698. There are now 265,326 fewer people unemployed in the state. Arizona job growth data is also available.

    Unemployed Persons	January 2021	Month/Month	Year/Year
    Arizona	239,372	-3,038	+67,702

    So as a first estimate, about 1/2 % of the present unemployed…( 0.41 %)

  169. Jim Masterson says:


    It’s getting really bad when your supposed allies (the Republican Party) are useless.


  170. jim2 says:

    EMS – I’m not optimistic that government can pull it off. Also, one would need to determine if the ballot was folded (meaning it was put in an envelope and sent through the mail), if it is machine printed, if the ballot paper is legit, if there are ballots that are the same is every way, and some other observations.

    Jovan Pulitzer and a scanner can do this in a few days using his software and will have a much greater chance of detecting fraudulent ballots, which to my way of thinking is the goal – not just to count votes.

  171. E.M.Smith says:

    You are changing the “Problem Specification” on me, Jim2.

    First you said the count couldn’t be done. Now you’re saying a minor forensic audit of the ballot materials can not be done after I’ve shown the size of the count is not a problem…

    So, OK, figure it takes about 20 seconds to look at the paper and see if there is no crease (so set it in the WT? pile) or if it looks just like the “model” of machine printed with only POTUS marked (and set it in that pile), etc. That fits well inside my “x 4 ’cause of government)” estimate ranges.

    BUT if that’s not enough, just do ANOTHER factor of 4. Now you are absolute worst case 4 months for the labor of a modest sized labor pool, or the same one month with a larger but still manageable labor pool.

    It just is not a TECHNICAL nor SCALE problem. MUCH more complicated and large things have been done repeatedly.

    Los Angeles Comic Con, alone, handles
    Attendance 123,000 in 2019

    OVER 100,000 attendees each year. There are plenty of folks who handle things of greater complexity and larger size and do it on short schedules.

    The only real question is Can GOVERNMENT do this given all the political BS involved.

    Physically and as a management effort it is NOT hard to do. Politically and with all the Political / Legal Crap that will be done: that’s the problem.

  172. jim2 says:

    EMS – no bad intent, just not clear enough. The link in the original comment to the info on Pulitzer contained the other part – forensic audit.

    At any rate, scanner and image analysis is best.

  173. E.M.Smith says:

    When doing forensics the first thing to grasp is that NO data is allowed to be ignored. You are not there to choose the best way, the good enough way, to change, ignore or eliminate some data.

    You look for and catalog and examine EVERYTHING in EVERY WAY you can. Only after that can you proceed to drawing conclusions… At least, that’s my way of doing forensics. Every bit of evidence is bagged, tagged and examined before you start painting the picture of what it means.

    So from my point of view neither a Hand Count nor a Scanner & Image analysis is best. You do BOTH then “compare and contrast”.

    “A man with one watch knows what time it is, a man with 2 watches is never sure.” But examination of the two watches and comparing their differences is enlightening about the best way to tell time and the ways things can go wrong. Something you will never get with just one watch.

  174. jim2 says:

    EMS – as long as the forensic image analysis is done, I would be happy, not that it matters to anyone in power. Any additional analysis is certainly welcomed. We’re talking about a stolen election. It’s very important.

  175. A C Osborn says:

    EM, re looking at ballot papers and man hours, there are 6,000 troops in DC that could be put to better use, let them do the initial sorting scan. semi sarc/

  176. Simon Derricutt says:

    On energy/propulsion, and fringe science, if you’ve got time spare could be fun visiting https://www.altpropulsion.com/ . Some weird stuff being tried at the edges, and maybe a large amount of this will be tinfoil hat and may never work. However on the March 6th meeting,, Mike McCulloch gave a presentation that is worthwhile – you can skip to that section by going to part 3. The current amount of thrust produced in the experiments is around 100N/kW, so would be able to lift a 10kg weight using a kW of power if scaled up from the current few mW lab-scale tests. Also, interestingly, the measured force matches the theoretical to within experimental error. This isn’t antigravity, but a violation of Conservation of Momentum (CoM) using quantum theory and the thrust can be in any direction. Mount a couple of these on an axle connected to a generator, and you can also violate Conservation of Energy (CoE) which is of course why most people will consider this as wishful thinking and experimental error. However, there are around half a dozen groups running various types of experiments testing out Mike’s theory, and they are mostly seeing some success and that the measured thrust matches theory.

    The most-promising one seems to be http://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/2021/02/horizon-engineers.html where in essence you need a high-voltage supply and a capacitor (later probably a multi-layer capacitor) to get the thrust. This works on the tunnelling current and having a very high acceleration of the electrons (somewhere around 1e+19 m/s²) and the odd things that happen when you attain such high accelerations. Bear in mind that this doesn’t make sense from classical physics or Relativity, but that it does make sense using quantum theory. Also note that Unruh waves are the explanation used, but these are a bit paradoxical since they appear to need instantaneous velocity or at least instantaneous transfer of information, but that instantaneous transfer of information is an experimental reality and is being utilised in quantum computing. I’d suggest that Unruh waves can maybe be identified as the waves that make up matter, and that the extent of the probability wave of a particle doesn’t actually extend to infinity but instead to the Hubble horizon (which is itself spreading at the speed of light) and that we may need to do more work on the description of what matter and energy actually are. The “big bang” was thus likely more of a crystallisation of reality spreading out from a point than an actual bang and appearance of matter/energy.

    The theory depends on the idea of horizons, since when something accelerates then light from a certain distance away cannot reach it, and we only have knowledge of things when the light (includes any EM wave) actually reaches us. When that light can reach us, though, then we have instantaneous knowledge of what is happening between the particle and that horizon here and now, so thinking about this tends to make the brain hurt. Light can only travel at the speed of light so has a delay, yet it can carry (quantum) information from where it came from with no delay. This also applies to the waves of matter, I think, and a particle is affected by every other particle within the reach of where the edges of its waves currently reach. We are literally one with the known and knowable universe.

    If this turns out to be reality, and of course there’s a fair amount of experimental data by now as well as explanations of various experimental anomalies where the theory agrees with the observations, then we can make energy dirt cheaply. Once you have such very cheap energy, then that makes a lot of other things possible, including getting water and heat/cooling to do indoor farming anywhere in the world. The devices to make that energy also look like being cheap to make in any size you want, and won’t need a lot of material either.

    Food for thought….

  177. p.g.sharrow says:

    @ Simon ; I have purposely avoided examining others work to develop my own theory independently. That said, My own examinations lead me to the same conclusions. Any disagreement might be semantics or word selections.
    In the beginning there was Chaos of energy that in time began self organization/”crystallization” into mater / not mater. Charge and no charge, negative / positive. My key realization was that positive is a lack of charge, a hole in electronics. When that hole was filled we have +/- neutral. Positive is not a charge. All mater is organized energy/charge, versus not mater, space that is chaos of energy at a reduced “pressure” or density. Once that is understood then the things you describe are possible. Even the nature of GOD is reveled as the soul / word of creation…pg

  178. E.M.Smith says:

    @AC Osborn:

    Nice idea! It would be less boring that just sitting in a garage too!


    I’ll take a look. QM does exotic things, but it also works, so expect the unexpected to be true…


    Some interesting recent cosmology has found that “constants” of nature (such as the fine constant and such) are NOT the same in all directions of the universe.

    This is a problem as minor changes of the Fine Constant will cause stars to not form Carbon or life to be impossible and more…

    So folks are now trying to figure out if it really is the case that the universe is NOT iso-tropic.

    Then, if it isn’t isotropic: Why? And can you change those “constants” with some applied forces?

    This would be a huge thing, not just for cosmology, but for everything else too. What happens if you can, for example, modulate the tendency for any given atom to decay on command? Or have speed of light be different in two different directions?

    Lots of hair pulling going on over this one and everyone trying to prove “It just can’t be so!”…


    General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology
    [Submitted on 16 Nov 2020]
    Spatial variation of the fine-structure constant and Hubble’s law in anisotropic coordinate
    of Friedmann-Lemaitre-Robertson-Walker space-time

    Zhe Chang, Qing-Hua Zhu

    Recent updated results of quasar spectra suggested a 3.9σ significance of spatial variation of the fine-structure constant. Theoretically, it is important to examine whether the fine-structure constant, as a fundamental constant in quantum theory, is possible varying with space and time.
    In this paper, we explore the possibility that spatial variation of the fine-structure constant could be compatible with Einstein’s general relativity. Namely, the spatially dependent fine-structure constant in the Universe could be originated in different values of the speed of light in separate local frames that are far away from us, since we have known that light rays must be bending in the present of gravity or non-inertial motions. In addition, to learn more about the anisotropic coordinate of FLRW space-time, we also study luminosity distance-redshift relation. It is found that there is a dipole structure in high redshift regime, while in low redshift regime, there is not such dipole.

    All we know so far is something weird is going on and the available explanations violate the notion of an isotropic universe and that the “absolute constants” are in fact constant. Either that, or some very bright and careful people of screwed up regularly and reliably in peculiar ways…

    But at this point with even the “Constants of Nature” perhaps not constant, you can’t rule out anything anymore…

  179. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh my, this is good. May need to pause it to read things though as it moves a bit fast some times… (or I ought to have a little less wine ;-)


    A series of Video Memes. I especially like the “Madam Speaker, tear down this wall”…

    Channel with more here:


  180. Terry Jackson says:

    May be out of place, but current in time:
    A brief story about a fellow in Anchorage getting a call from someone claiming to be FBI about his presence in DC on Jan 6. References to an FBI Tip Line. Draw your own conclusions.

  181. p.g.sharrow says:

    AS to astro physical constants not being all that constant. Back in the late 1950s, early 60s, I realized that atomic functions of fusion / fission were dependent on local energy/mater density. More density, fusion. Less density resulted in fission. Many of the “constants” are based on local mater/energy density, like “Standard conditions”. As Max Placx said “I don’t need Aether to make my formula to work because I have a constant that solves that requirement” Both he and Albert Einstein believed in the existence of Aether., they just did not required to explain it to make their formula to work. These constants of atomic functions, speed of light, etc, are dependent on local mater /energy density. We now find that increased gravity causing increased mater density to energy slows atomic functions. We already knew that increasing energy speeds up atomic function as in an Fission bomb. We use a Fission Bomb to increase the local mater density to cause Fusion, at that point the energy density goes so high that fission of much of the material involved takes place. The speed of light is not a constant, rather a speed in local space that changes as the density of local space changes…pg

  182. H.R. says:

    @Terry Jackson re FBI – Thanks for the tip. Useful to know.

  183. A C Osborn says:

    Simon Derricutt says: 21 March 2021 at 2:07 pm
    “The current amount of thrust produced in the experiments is around 100N/kW, so would be able to lift a 10kg weight using a kW of power if scaled up”

    Simon, can you explain to this lay person how producing 100N/kW makes energy cheaper, don’t you still have to produce the 1kW in the first place?
    Isn’t 100N about 1/7 of a horsepower and 1/10 of a kW?

  184. Simon Derricutt says:

    EM – for the fine-structure constant discussion in arXiv, one of the basic assumptions is Einstein’s Equivalence Principle, basically that you can’t tell the difference between a gravitational field and a constant acceleration. This Principle is not actually valid, in that a light-beam will bend twice a much as a particle does, which gives rise to “Einstein lensing” around gravitational bodies and where the expected doubling of the bending has been measured experimentally. There’s still some room in the measurements for the possibility it’s not exactly double, though. However, since a lot of the discussions and maths there went above my head, and it’s comparing various models of spacetime which would themselves need quite a bit of study time to understand, about the only decent other point I can make is that those models assume the reality of Dark Matter and Dark Energy, and I suspect those are both illusory and cover up model errors. If you need fudge-factors in the equations to make them work, then it’s pretty likely that you don’t understand what’s actually happening. That’s really what’s attractive about Mike’s theory, in that all the factors are experimental measurements and there is nothing there to be adjusted to get the right answers – it either gives the right answer or it doesn’t.

    Possibly quite a few “constants” will depend on the actual size of the universe at the time you look at it. The main one however will be the relationship between the force applied to an object and its acceleration, which standard theory says is constant (inertia is constant) but where Mike’s theory says that it depends on the current size of the universe, and that the acceleration is quantised such that as the universe gets bigger the minimum acceleration gets smaller. Since telescopes look back in time, and presumably the universe was smaller then, then looking at the orbits of stars in the outer reaches of galaxies with various red-shifts should show that minimum (gravitational) acceleration getting larger with increasing red-shift.

    There’s also some odd things happen when an object is spinning, with a reduction of inertia seen along the axis of the spinning object. A bit too small to actually measure with any confidence when using something like a flywheel, but may affect those astronomical measurements so that there’s slight differences when looking in the direction of the Earth’s poles rather than along the Ecliptic. Possibly there will be differences between an Earth-based telescope and a space-based one that will cause some head-scratching later on and where the effect of the spin will be either confirmed or denied. A spinning object (around vertical axis) also drops a bit slower than a non-spinning one. There are some odd anomalies known about, where there are small deviations from what standard theory predicts. Could be experimental errors….

    What we see isn’t what’s actually there, but is affected by the way we take the measurements, so there are distortions. We know that time slows in a gravity field, and this causes light-rays to be bent, but I think it’s likely that this mixes up cause and effect, and it’s probably more likely that it’s the slowing of time that causes the gravity. I figure that times runs more slowly the greater the local matter-field is (and the matter-field of a particle stretches to the Hubble limit). This can be experimentally tested at Lagrange points, where the net gravity field is zero but the matter-field isn’t, so I’d expect time to run slower there but standard theory would predict that time will run at its maximum rate. I’d also expect time to run slower in deep mine-shafts, and to run slowest at the centre of the Earth. This has had some measurements and whereas standard theory expects time to run faster the deeper you go, it does run slower, with the difference explained away by the explanation that the mantle density is lower than the core density so (net) gravity doesn’t decrease as much as expected.

    Beta decay is measured to be variable, and to have seasonal variations. It can also probably be affected by overall electric charge, though I’m not certain that the reports of that are reliable. Certainly the patents using that idea didn’t result in any device being sold. However, given the likely oscillation rate inside a nucleus and the energy-barrier involved, it seems likely that a relatively small change in the well the other side of the barrier could affect the probability of any reflection of particles at that barrier and could change the probability of an escape to some extent.

    pg – I think that discussions of ideas are pretty essential, to catch logical errors and also to pick up on the odd anomalies that might trigger some new thinking, that someone else has noticed and maybe haven’t had much publicity. I brought up Mike’s experiments here because they seem to be getting close to success, and if they do succeed then we get very cheap energy which isn’t Carbon-based and needs little mining either. Since the people making decisions are so convinced that using fossil fuels is a major problem, yet aren’t going the logical route to installing nuclear power, then this technology gets around the political problem somewhat neatly. They can get “zero Carbon” energy and though will make does bugger-all difference to the climate it’s going to be a lot cheaper than wind or solar power (and cheaper than coal or natural gas) and without the waste-disposal problem. Might even avoid the national suicides that seem to be the way things are heading.

    Maybe a little bit ironic that this resulted from observations of rotational anomalies in galaxies far, far away and a long time ago….

  185. rhoda klapp says:

    ACO, newtons are a force unit, kW is a power unit. You need a velocity component. A jet engine produces constant thrust, a force, but is more powerful the faster it goes.

  186. Simon Derricutt says:

    ACO – That 1kW produces a force of around 100N, and you need to multiply the force by the velocity to get the energy output. Put that 100N at a radius of 1m, and for each radian/s in angular velocity you get 100Nm/s (100J) of mechanical energy. Once you reach 10 radians/second you’ve got break-even, where you are putting in 1kW and getting 1kW out. At 20 radians/s you get 2kW out, and so on, but you’re still only putting in 1kW. The limit of power out will be determined by how strong you can make the rotating bits. The energy in remains constant. 10 radians/second is 600 radians/minute, and dividing by 2pi gives around 95.5 rpm, so there’s quite a bit of headroom here to make it faster.

    The frame of reference for the force here is the device, and not the lab frame. Normally, when we use reaction to accelerate something, the velocity of what we’re throwing out is relative to the rocket or jet engine, so in the lab frame the force produced diminishes as the rocket gets faster. Momentum is also conserved (we’re using constant fields to produce the forces) and so energy is conserved with the rocket. By not using reaction here to produce the force, we violate conservation of momentum (CoM) and thus can also violate conservation of energy (CoE). If it’s any help, this took me a long time to come to terms with, too, since I thought CoM and CoE were inviolable, and had to go back to first principles (Newton’s derivation) to see that CoM only applies when we use constant fields to produce the forces. If instead we use a wave, then we need to consider the time-delay in the force diagrams resulting from the limited speed of light. Thus reaction is no longer equal to the reaction, and Newton’s 3rd Law no longer applies. Any way you produce that non-reactive force will also result in violation of CoM and (if you arrange things right) CoE as well.

    So far, we’ve generated forces by pushing on something else. It turns out we can also push off just a field or from space itself. That raises questions as to what those fields actually are that I can’t answer, but it looks like we can practically use it. It also seems that the Rindler horizon location can actually be measured, and this raises other questions about what matter consists of, and how the universe works, that I also can’t answer. However, as engineers we can use these properties even when we don’t fully understand why they are there. After all, we used fire long before there was a theory of combustion.

  187. Simon Derricutt says:

    Damn – when I wrote 100Nm/s it should have 100J/s or 100W output. Proofreading problem….

  188. p.g.sharrow says:

    Simon says; ” Maybe a little bit ironic that this resulted from observations of rotational anomalies in galaxies far, far away and a long time ago….”
    That is the key piece of information that yields true understanding. The rotating mass/field warps space and changes the effects of local Mass/Inertia. It proves that “space” is filled with something that effects acceleration, gravity, speed of light, etc. Something that can be effected by electronic / electrical fields….pg

    My avoidance of others work is my way of checking my thought processes against their work. If their work results in the same conclusions based on known information that I have come to, then we both should be on the right track. God knows that the accepted standard theories are as full of holes as a good piece of Swiss cheese.

    Nicola Tesla’s work demonstrated that if we “ring the bell” hard enough it becomes substantial and conserves the energy. My guess was that about 30 hp of energy could accelerate 1000 pounds at 1G, about the same as needed for an airplane.

    And you have given me an Idea on how to do a test with the equipment I have at hand. Too bad I just took on a job that will consume most of My time for the summer.,,,,, I may do it anyway!…pg

  189. Simon Derricutt says:

    pg – yep, looks like the structure of space is a bit different than we thought, and EM waves are the building–blocks of what we call matter, and that EM fields can probably affect stuff more than we knew if we apply them in the right way.

    The point about discussing ideas is that for each person the bandwidth is limited. We each see different odd things and have ideas because of them, but someone else’s “odd thing and ideas” could be something you haven’t heard of and wouldn’t come across unless they told you. Might be just the thing you need to get a step further (such as that idea you had for a test you could do).

    It’s important to realise that there’s a lot we don’t know, and that at the current state of knowledge there can be several (or many) equally-valid theories as to the structure of the universe. Equally-valid because they do as well as each other at predicting what happens (as measured so far), and experiments can’t tell us which one is wrong. Hopefully the alternative ideas put forward by Mike will give correct predictions and experiments based on them will work, but that still won’t tell us whether it’s right, only that it is more right than previous theories. It still has paradox, so isn’t perfect, but as physicists we’re used to believing six impossible things before breakfast – it goes with the territory. believing is too strong a word, really, since it’s more like entertaining the possibility and working as if it’s correct until you find out it’s not totally right. Then figure out a modification that lets that experimental anomaly be theoretically possible. Rinse and repeat…. The pothole we tend to trip over is in trying to hold on to an old theory or statement that something is impossible because we’ve never seen it before, when there is at least some indication that something does happen that shouldn’t (those anomalies). Thus we can ignore a small effect because it could be experimental error, and if it was real then some well-established theory or Law would be invalid.

    When we do something significantly different, or achieve conditions more-extreme than we’ve previously achieved, what theory predicts will happen and what actually happens can be different. That’s likely the case for your experiment with the Disk – higher voltages and maybe currents than used before in that configuration. Might however not have a high-enough Q to achieve the currents it needs, because of the loss-tangent of the resin and glass fibre mix. Thus maybe not enough acceleration of the electrons to actually achieve a measurable result. You can’t however tell till you’ve tried it. Importantly, if it doesn’t work that doesn’t mean that the idea is necessarily wrong, but may just be that you haven’t achieved extreme-enough conditions.

    For a long time, I’ve dismissed the claims of being able to get power out of a motor built only from permanent magnets. No energy source, so it can’t work. A few weeks ago, though, I figured out a way of doing that as a result of discussing something else with an acquaintance interested in the whole Free Energy field and magnet motors in particular, using spin-waves to convert thermal energy to rotational energy. I’ll put up an explanation of that if anyone wants it. Not a huge amount of power (a few watts expected for a fist-sized device) and practically useless, but it ought to work. Fairly obviously based on the odd things that quantum physics predicts, and some experimental evidence that points to it actually working in other configurations, and of course it violates 2LoT since the energy out comes from the internal heat. I may test out the ideas by building one, but I need to build some kit to determine the parameters needed for design, and also need to make the kit to impose specific magnetisation patterns on some thin ferrite, so may take a while to change the square tuit to a round one. Impossible things remain impossible until you figure out a way to do them. For the most part, that figuring out is a result of finding (or being told about) an anomaly that also shouldn’t happen.

    Good luck with the test!

  190. jim2 says:

    Sweet! I hope CNN and MSNBC lose their complete and total 4$$.

    The most deeply affected network is CNN. After surpassing rivals Fox News and MSNBC in January, the network has lost 45 percent of its prime-time audience in the past five weeks, according to Nielsen Media Research. MSNBC’s audience has dropped 26 percent in the same period. Fox News — the most Trump-friendly of the three networks in its prime-time opinion shows — has essentially regained its leading position by standing still; its ratings have fallen just 6 percent since the first weeks of the year. The cable networks declined to discuss their ratings outlook for this article.


  191. E.M.Smith says:


    What is really amazing is the actual number of viewers.

    There are many Youtube channels with more… on the order of 1 million on the good days…

  192. E.M.Smith says:

    Says 2.5 million over the AVERAGE of prime time, but at any one time I think I saw a report that it was about 1 million per show…

    CNN is losing a million viewers a day and are down 50 percent in the 24-54 age bracket because they lost their big enemy because Trump left office.

    The left-wing, fake news purveyor averaged 2.5 million viewers a night in prime-time from Nov. 4 to Jan. 20, according to Nielsen ratings data, the Daily Mail reported.

    but further down…

    CNN averaged 1.7 million total daytime viewers from November 4 through January 20 and has since suffered a 34% decline, Fox News reported. CNN has averaged 1.1 million daytime viewers since Biden took office.

    Daytime viewership among the 24-54 age group dropped 44% from an average of 483,000 to only 272,000, according to the outlet.

    So now about spot on 1 million daytime ( 0.66 of 1.7 = 1.12) and the ones with money to spend and good for ad revenue? Headed for 1/4 million… So mostly old retired people or kids assigned to watch by some class project are watching, the Prime Buyers not so much …

    I’d expect the Company Staff & Families to be more than that. Per the wiki:

    Cable News Network (CNN) is a multinational news-based pay television channel headquartered in Atlanta. It is owned by CNN Worldwide, a unit of the WarnerMedia News & Sports division of AT&T’s WarnerMedia.

    So AT&T with 230,000 employees (per their wiki) is about the same size as their prime advertising audience…

    Now that’s sad…

    But AT&T is big enough they can carry it at a loss for decades if they think the propaganda value is worth it.

    FWIW, my experience has been that whatever the present (really Bell South) AT&T touches, decays into dreck rapidly. Especially in the media and customer service spaces. The old AT&T died when Bell South bought them out, trashed them, and absorbed the name.

  193. jim2 says:

    MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The Republican-controlled Wisconsin Assembly planned to pass a resolution Tuesday that would authorize an investigation into the 2020 presidential election that President Joe Biden narrowly won in the state.

    Voting to authorize an investigation comes after Republicans last month ordered an audit of the election results. Biden defeated Donald Trump by fewer than 21,000 votes in Wisconsin. The election outcome was affirmed by a partial recount and several lawsuits brought by Trump and his allies alleging wrongdoing were rejected by state and federal courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court. No significant problems were found with the state’s voting machines after audits and recounts in both 2016 and in 2020.


  194. H.R. says:

    Sundance covers everything you need to know about the Colorado mass shooting over at The Treehouse.



    One thing we don’t know, and will probably not find out from the YSM, is if the shooter was a registered Democrat or voted Democrat. That has often been the case. As far as I know or can recall, none of the mass shootings have ever been a MAGA, White Supremacist, Bible-waving, Joe Six-pack guy, which is the narrative.
    But if the YSM does push this story further, you won’t see the shooter’s name or any pictures of the shooter. They’ll just push the narrative as if the shooter was a MAGA, White Supremacist, Bible-waving, Joe Six-pack guy and focus on the “assault weapon,” not the shooter.

    “These guns kill masses of people!” Ummmm… no. I have never known of a gun to wake up one day, run out the door, and start shooting people. It’s always been a person, the choice of weapon being irrelevant. (cf London and knife attacks).

  195. A C Osborn says:

    Simon Derricutt says: 23 March 2021 at 12:42 pm
    Funny that you should mention “yep, looks like the structure of space is a bit different than we thought”, CERN have just had such a moment, (not for the first time), see

    I would be interested in your Electricity free electric motor, but wouldn’t be able to further your research, I am just interested in all things science.
    Joseph Postma put forward a sort of design for one here

    I also found this interesting

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  197. cdquarles says:

    I have run across some of Mr. Postma’s work elsewhere. That thread is fascinating. Folk seem to forget that inside the pieces of solid materials, the components are all jiggling; so they are correct about magnetic eddy currents. You can bias a random walk and they are biasing a random walk; so this may not ‘get something for nothing’, yet at any thermodynamic temperature above absolute zero; there is always some internal energy you have available. Harnessing it is the question.

  198. Simon Derricutt says:

    ACO – I’ve added the reply here so the new WOOD doesn’t wear out so quickly….

    The Postma idea for a magnet motor is the type of thing I say cannot work. The problem is that people think magnetic field lines are a real thing. They aren’t. They picture the net magnetic force and direction of the vector sums of the magnetic fields at that point from all the little magnets considered to be significant enough to consider in the calculation. Net calculations or measurements also lose information, the same as averages. Basically, with permanent magnets, if you can’t figure out a cycle of movements between two magnets that gains energy when it’s gone all the way around the cycle (and you can’t), then it doesn’t matter how many extra magnets you add to the design or how complex the field pattern looks – it won’t have any net gain. Lots of people have tried variations on that theme, and they never worked for real.

    The Electrodynamics article was well worth the read. Needs more thought and some more time to see whether I can pull anything more from that.

    As an aside before the motor, I realised that there’s a provable violation of Conservation of Momentum (CoM), and it was predicted by Einstein. Imagine a photon passing by a massy body. According to Einstein (and experiment) it gets bent twice as much as its gravitational attraction should produce. Assuming that the effective mass of a photon also produces a gravitational force, then the force times time this exerts on the mass is half the momentum change of the photon, and so momentum is not conserved in gravitational bending of the path of a photon. If we assume instead that the photon’s effective mass has no gravitational effect, the violation of CoM is twice as much, since the momentum of the photon is changed without affecting the momentum of the matter creating the gravitational field. Thus a photon in a gravitational field violates CoM. If CoM can be violated, then CoE (conservation of energy) must also have loopholes where it doesn’t apply.

    OK, for the motor, I don’t know how deep you’ve gone into thermodynamics or spin-waves, and I’ll skim over things a bit to keep this short(er), but you may need to find some deeper explanations of bits of this.
    The first thing is thermodynamic Degrees of Freedom (DoF). These are energy stores in a solid and generally are translational (3 dimensions possible so 3 DoFs, and officially not quantised) or vibrational where molecules for example can bend or vibrate, and these are quantised and have a minimum quantum before they are energised. Each DOF can carry 0.5kT of energy on average, and all available DoFs pass energy between themselves. The quantised DoFs can be partially filled at lower temperatures, and fully occupied at higher temperatures. Various magnetic substances have extra DoFs, though, with the magnetic moments of the molecules basically precessing around the (net) magnetic field direction. These are quantised, with the quantum of energy depending on the magnetic field and thus the precession speed. However, there are only two DoFs available, with spin-left and spin-right, with relationship to the magnetic field. If the field changes, then the current spin-wave stops (since the precession speed is no longer matched to the energy quantum it has) and a new one starts with the new quantum of energy. When a new spin-wave starts, it has equal probabilities to start either direction unless there’s a spinning magnetic field that kicks it in one direction preferentially.

    These magnetic DoFs using spin-waves are utilised in magnetic refrigeration, since when you magnetise the substance it gains more DoFs and the available heat energy is spread between more DoFs and so the material cools. Conversely, reducing the field to zero (or near-enough) disables those spin-waves, so the available thermal energy gets spread between fewer DoFs and the material warms again. These materials are known as magneto-caloric.

    If you apply a spinning magnetic field of the right (or near-enough) frequency whilst changing the main magnetic field, then the new spin-waves will all start in the same sense as your spinning field. Because they’re all synchronised, this spinning wave can be sensed outside the material, much the same as if you were spinning a bar-magnet that was mounted at an angle to the axis. This should also happen if you spin the block at the right rate in a magnetic field that is a bit off-axis.

    What usually happens is that equal numbers of spin-waves start in each rotational sense, which is a symmetry. By adding in the spinning field we’re breaking that symmetry, and this is what the use as a motor depends on.

    The basic design of the motor is thus a rotor made of a magneto-caloric material. A lot of ferrites will do the job. To this we add an axial field which is the bias magnetic field that sets the rotational frequency of the spin-waves in the rotor. We also need a stator with a North-South magnetic field orthogonal to the rotor. This gives the spinning field when the rotor spins – note that you could have the stator spinning if you wanted and the rotor stationary, if the spin-waves are spinning relative to the universe rather than (as I expect) the rotor material. We now need to vary the longitudinal field a bit to make sure that spin-waves are created and destroyed a lot. I’d suggest doing that with a disk on the rotor and a disk on the stator which are both magnetised in quadrants, so looking at the face you see a disk with each successive 90° alternately N and S. As one rotates against the other the net field will change as they alternately add to each other and subtract, and this modulates the longitudinal field.

    Start the motor by spinning it at the right rate, or alternatively spinning it faster and let it slow down. The varying longitudinal field means that new spin-waves are being constantly produce from the heat in the rotor, and the orthogonal field that’s spinning relative to the rotor ensures that only unidirectional spin-waves are started. Those spin-waves also couple to the orthogonal field and will keep it spinning even with a slight load.

    Tweaks and mods: it really ought to work on a single magnetic field (that is, forget the stator) if the main field is off-axis, but I don’t yet know the angle to the axis needed. Maybe somewhere around 30°. You still need to mount the quadrant disk though. The quadrant disks could of course have more segments, giving a faster rate of longitudinal field change and thus a faster recycle of spin-waves.

    Things I still need to find out:
    1: Exactly what the DoF energy quantum is for the materials I can get.
    2: What is the relationship between longitudinal field and spin-wave frequency. This obviously says what speed the motor needs to run at, so we can’t use too strong a magnet since the rotor would need to spin too fast. I figure I’ll need to make a wave-generator with sine-waves at 90° phase difference, and drive a couple of coils at right angles, so I get a spinning field and can vary both the longitudinal field and the spinning field (amplitude and frequency) and plot out where the resonances happen (the coils will pick up when the spin-waves are at the same frequency). Also it’s necessary to know how strong the spinning field has to be. Also it’s necessary to know how much the longitudinal field needs to vary, and at what rate. Once the various field-strengths have been found by using electromagnets, those can be substituted with permanent magnets.

    Very little actual power available, since it depends on heat transfer from the ambient into the rotor block (and ferrite isn’t that good at conducting heat). The rotor will cool down relative to ambient. If it gets too cool it’ll probably stop working because the occupancy of the spin-wave DoF will get too low to provide enough torque (not enough actual spin-waves).

    It’s only been about 3 weeks since I worked this out. The design is obviously not settled yet, and I might well have missed something I shouldn’t have. Still, it looks like it ought to work. It doesn’t violate CoE, though, just 2LoT.

  199. cdquarles says:

    Indeed, that third article is very interesting, and raised some issues that I vaguely remember from 70s chemistry studies/conversations. My college physics of the time briefly glossed over this.

  200. philjourdan says:

    @HR – Here are the faces of mass shooters of late:


    Go 60% down the page to see the faces of the White Supremacists, Guess most work in coal mines.

  201. E.M.Smith says:


    I liked that link so much, I saved a copy of the picture of all those “White Supremacists”…

    Given that the USA is about 70% White, one would expect only 1 in 3 to be a non-white face for a normal distribution…

    Instead of 7 in 10 being white, looks more like 1 in 8 to me…

  202. philjourdan says:

    How dare they wear black and brown face for their mug shots!

  203. E.M.Smith says:

    I wonder….

    Was the momentum of the photon not conserved, or was it moved to the graviton?….

    I can envision a case where photons interact with the theoretical gravity particle when normal matter might not. OTOH, a hypothetical particle with theoretical properties is kind of a cop out…

    But I do wonder if the momentum might just be moved somewhere unexpected…

  204. Simon Derricutt says:

    EM – that’s a tricky question. The strange thing is that gravity acts as if it’s infinite velocity, so the attraction is to where the body is now rather than where you see it to be. Einstein defined gravitons as travelling at the speed of light, and then defined some very complex maths to give the effect of the attraction being towarfs where the body is now rather than the delayed image. Curved space and gravitons are also mutually exclusive – choose one or the other.

    I figure gravitons are as fake as Dark Matter. An idea that didn’t work once we knew a bit more data. For the moment, it’s probably best to swallow the proposition that infinite velocity transmission is possible, since it’s part of quantum theory and has experimental evidence too. Gravity is thus a quantum phenomenon, and a lot of those violate the rules of classical physics.

    It seems you can push on just a field, and not necessarily on the object that is producing the field. When the field is constant, in general momentum is conserved, but a variation in a field travels at a certain velocity. With EM waves, that’s c. Gravity ought thus to conserve momentum, but also is associated with a time gradient that also changes the direction of the wavefront, much like light being bent by a prism.

    The way I’m seeing things at the moment is that momentum is not a conserved quantity, but since all the interactions we’ve used so far have used fields that are either constant or slowly-changing (relative to the experiment size), so the force times time (momentum change) is naturally equal and opposite. Thus the violation of CoM for the photon doesn’t need to dump momentum anywhere else. The gravitational body undergoes a certain momentum change and the photon undergoes twice that, and that’s natural and what happens. Just means that when looking at other situations we also need to figure out whether in that case momentum will be conserved. Nearly always, it will be. However, if you set up the right situation, it won’t be. A photon in a gravitation field is just one where CoM doesn’t apply.

    Unlike the problem Galileo had, it’s somewhat nice that people here do actually look. This is heresy to say some fundamental laws of physics are incomplete and have exceptions, and so it seems most people tend to dismiss it. Interesting but will never work. Actually, I think it will do. Still, first people need to think it’s possible, otherwise they won’t try.

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  206. Russ Wood says:

    Just been catching up with the W.O.O.D. after a month! Re the “Little Black Sambo” at the opening – “Sambo” means “First Son” in one of the Nigerian dialects, and I have a story: My first contact with a non-white person was when I started my engineering degree at a ‘technikon’ in Manchester, UK in 1959. The ‘nonreflective’ person was a trainee traffic engineer, whose first name, to us Mancunians, was unpronounceable. After hearing us garble his name, he said “Just call me by my other name – Sambo”. “But that’s an insult!” we said. “No – it’s my NAME!”.
    So, the most remarkable thing about this ‘odd man out’ wasn’t his colour, but his unpronounceable name!

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