A $35 Million Mouth – What Delta Woke Almost Cost ’em

Georgia passed some kind of Protect The Vote law.

Delta Airlines CEO mouths off about it, being all woke and wanting to Virtue Signal Left.

So the Georgia House figures he doesn’t need their $35 Million of special tax breaks – and votes to remove them.

That there’s one $35 Million Dollar “Get Woke Go Broke” mouth…

Tim Pool’s take on it:


Fox Business report on it:


Georgia House votes to strip Delta of tax break after CEO criticized voting law
Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian called Georgia’s new voting law ‘unacceptable’

The Georgia House of Representatives voted Wednesday to strip Delta Airlines of a multimillion-dollar tax break in a symbolic rebuke of CEO Ed Bastian, who joined other business leaders in criticizing recent changes to the state’s voting laws.

The Republican-controlled House voted along party lines to end a tax break for jet fuel worth more than $35 million annually, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported. Georgia’s Republican House Speaker, David Ralston, acknowledged the vote was meant as a reprimand following Bastian’s remarks.

“They like our public policy when we’re doing things that benefit them,” Ralston said, adding, “You don’t feed a dog that bites your hand. You got to keep that in mind sometimes.”


Georgia’s State Senate did not bring the House-backed measure up for a vote, effectively scuttling
the GOP’s push to revoke the tax break. Some senators reportedly had reservations about revoking a financial incentive as Delta and other airlines contend with the negative effects of the coronavirus pandemic.

One wonders if the Senate can still bring it up a bit later…

Hey, Delta (and Coke): How about you just shut up and fly the damn planes on time and at a decent cost? How about you just put sugar water in bottles and sell it at a decent price? How about I don’t want to know a damn thing about your politics AT ALL not one way or the other.

Does the phrase “just mind the business” mean anything anymore?

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28 Responses to A $35 Million Mouth – What Delta Woke Almost Cost ’em

  1. Scissor says:

    Passenger miles flown by blacks, as well as those having income below mean levels, are undoubtedly underrepresented. Delta should immediately provide means-tested free travel credits to remedy this situation. The degree of under representation in first class cabins is particularly bad, so Delta should address this inequity first.

  2. E.M.Smith says:


    Good point. In fact, isn’t that “Classism” on the face of it? Looks to me like they need to ABOLISH first AND “business” class and make the whole thing “Humixn Class” …

    Also, their crew is rather sexually dimorphic. Most of the ground crew and baggage handlers are big men. Not one of those men in a skirt. Clearly they need to hire women instead… and if it takes 3 x 110 lb. women to toss a 50 lb. bag the way a 250 lbs ex-linebacker can, well, so be it.

  3. Dwink9909 says:

    “Georgia past some kind of Protect The Vote law.”
    “Georgia passed some kind of Protect the Vote law.”

    One of these things is not like the other. Just being anal retentive. These sorts of oversights somewhat diminish the impact of what is being said, and are distracting. Auto correct is not your friend.

    Otherwise, well said!

    [Reply: After a half dozen languages and first thing in the morning while still finding my first coffee, I tend to spell phonetically. I usually catch it in proof reading, but if that is skipped, well, stuff isn’t perfect. Oh, and there’s also the few dozen computer languages with odd spelling and all the variables with bent spelling and all the marketing stuff with made-up spelling and… Hopefully you get the idea… While I try to generally follow spelling rules, it will NEVER be perfect and OFTEN have errors. People are like that. Me more than many. -E.M.Smith]

  4. Nancy & John Hultquist says:

    Delta should do away with identification for folks boarding their planes.
    They don’t need to know who you are — just move you from place A to place B.

  5. philjourdan says:

    If Delta doubles down on the left’s lies about the law, I suspect both Kemp and the Senate will pass the bill. While Delta can incorporate in another state, it is damn near impossible to move the Delta Hub to another city. That will cost far more than the $35m in tax breaks they get.

  6. philjourdan says:

    @Nancy and John – next time you book a Delta flight and they demand some ID, yell, at the top of your lunges “WHAT? You are subjecting me to JIM CROW laws???? Are you a racist airline???”

    Make sure you have someone filming it as I bet they will cancel your boarding, so have another flight booked as well. But the video will be a big black on for them.

  7. Taz says:

    Note to self:

    Never fly Delta again.
    Obtain quality list of woke companies to punish.

    Now to be fair, I’m sick of these state giveaways to corporations anyway. Believe all those involved should be hanged.

  8. Taz says:

    @philjourdan says:

    Hahahahahahahahaha…..especially if you keep booking then ask for your money back.

  9. philjourdan says:

    @Taz – Good Addition!

  10. Pinroot says:

    In music world, the phrase is “Shut up and play your guitar”, which comes from a Zappa album, but it’s pretty appropriate.

    MLB moved from GA to CO, where they have essentially the same voter laws, so either they’re completely unaware of CO’s voter laws, or it’s not really about the laws. Also, Atlanta is nearly 50% black where Denver is ~10% black, so it would seem to be sort of racist to move to a whiter area and disadvantage the blacks in the area you’re leaving. But logic and consistency are two things that liberals know nothing about.

  11. Pinroot says:

    Re: sexually dimorphic crews: Well, United Airlines is about to fix all that:

    United seeks to build its own diverse pipeline of pilots

    Concentrating on ‘equity’ instead of merit or competence doesn’t seem like a winning business strategy, but then what do I know?

  12. rhoda klapp says:

    And will there be slightly lower flight licensing requirements for diverse applicants?

  13. Pinroot says:

    @rhoda – I would expect so, it’s the only way to guarantee ‘equity’. Similar to what the military is doing to help females get through training; lowering certain standards to help them pass.

  14. another ian says:

    “What if United’s got a diverse group of dickheads on board? I don’t want one flying the plane too”


  15. philjourdan says:

    @Pinroot – Re: United Airlines – Well, so much for flying them! When the plane is in trouble,I want a Scully! Not a quota kid.

  16. another ian says:

    Didn’t some of your airlines give this a try a few years ago?

  17. another ian says:

    One of my trips to US included a United flight from Phoenix to San Fran and the plane went on to Alaska. (IIRC) it was a 727 which was best described as “tired”. For a start my seat didn’t lock upright so I had to fake it.it And the landing at San Fran added to my experience of things better described as “arrivals”.

    After I got home I was talking to our resident ground engineer who had started with QANTAS in 1937 and contrasted that to the gentle tiptoe landings that QANTAS pilots seemed to consistently manage with 747s.

    He laughed and said “QANTAS check captains have been notorious for years – Sir, that manoeuvre calls for 150 knots – 149 is inadequate”.

  18. philjourdan says:

    @Another Ian –

    Only question is – are they out of business?

    Anyone trusting their life to a quota kid is an idiot.

  19. Russ Wood says:

    On ‘equity’ in airline operations: South African Airways (whatever’s left of it) was being continually attacked by SA politicians for its lack of ‘transformation’ (i.e. too many white pilots). The problem for the politicians is that airline pilots (and airline engineers) HAVE to have a international licence, which doesn’t take into account skin colour, only competence. So, I heard a story that SAA sent a large group of POC to Australia for full training up to be airline pilots. I don’t know how big the group was, how long it took, or what it cost – but the outcome was that FOUR men qualified. Of those, one is flying for SAA, one more for another airline, one is in an FAA civil service position and the fourth left the country.
    There was also a group of SAA POC sent to Airbus in Germany to train as ground engineers. Airbus sent them home because they weren’t literate enough to be able to read the English manuals and drawings.
    “SAA – I t’ink I can see what’s wrong with your organisation!”

  20. E.M.Smith says:

    There is a common belief that all you need to do is run people through “training” to get a desired result. Be it a competency or an attitude shift.

    But it isn’t like that.

    The huge missing bit is “Motivation”. The party in question needs to have an inner desire to succeed at the thing, or to change their attitude.

    The Tuskegee Airmen PROVED that Blacks were at least as good as pilots as whites. There service record was unmatched. IIRC ZERO escorted bombers lost to enemy attack. Their aerial combat “style” was ferocious AND disciplined. They brought the courage and their commanding officer imposed a style of NOT chasing after a fight but sticking with the bombers always.

    The Men had the desire and motivation to prove something, and they accepted the discipline of forcing the enemy to fight on their chosen ‘ground’. They WANTED to be the best pilots with the best record, and succeeded.

    Compare that to most Government Programs and you find the selected folks have a lower level of motivation.

    A “cattle call” goes out and folks responding on a whim who are not fundamentally motivated show up; who gets picked from them depends on what the interviewer is looking for, and that is rarely high motivation and competency (as you can’t measure those well in a 1 hour interview…)

    Or a “mandated training” is forced on folks who’s major interest is hitting a checkbox and getting back to what they care about. I’ve been through several rounds of “training” intended to change my attitude and “sensitivity” (i.e. make me endorse and evoke Woke PC Attitudes). All it has accomplished is a deep and abiding hatred of things Woke and PC. MY Motivation was not aligned with the program… so the “training” only served to irritate and eventually anger me toward the “sensitivity training”.

    Part of what a Free Market in labor does, is that it allows folks to sort themselves based on their own interests and motivations. Women don’t particularly like getting beaten up by 300 lb men, so tend to avoid a job on a pro Football team (American football). I think ONE briefly made it. Men generally (or at least a lot of them) don’t mind getting greasy or being “insensitive” to animals and smells bother men less. So many more men want to be mechanics or work in slaughter houses.

    As soon as you try to change the outcomes by a counter-acting selection, advancement, or training “program”, you must by definition dramatically reduce the candidate pool of folks actually motivated to do that job, and increase the candidate pool of the folks with lower interests and lower motivation. Basically, when you say something like “Looking for {limiting identity type} to do job, will pay extra” anyone not in that Identity Pool is defacto excluded. Those applying will be doing so in large part “for the money” or for “the advantage” of being in a pool with lower competitive hurdle to make it. (IF they were already good enough and motivated enough in a free market they would already be in the candidate pool, and that implies they have not got as much skill and motivation as those in the pool already).

    Where there are real and structural barriers, like forbidding Black Airmen prior to W.W.II, then a program can act to take down those barriers. But in the modern world we’ve pretty much done that… IMO the “diversity programs” are a victim of the success of fairness. We (mostly) have fair and free labor markets. Nothing stops any POC from starting their own business IF someone won’t hire them. It is in this context that such programs fail.

    “Learn To Code” is one I can speak to. I teach programming. There are folks who like it, and folks who don’t. The ones where the light bulb lights on their first program run are always better coders. The ones who don’t get any thrill out of the success, who are just doing the mechanical motions to get the paper trail, or as a degree requirement, are mediocre and mostly just want to hit the check boxes and move on. Like someone studying accounting who doesn’t really care about it, they are semi-bored and unmotivated. It can be a game and challenge, or it can be drudge and frustrating; and the difference comes from the motivation and interests of the student.

    What really works is to proved OPPORTUNITIES for folks to find their muse and explore their motivations, and let the successful folks advance REGARDLESS of any “identity trait”.

  21. philjourdan says:

    The Tuskegee Airmen PROVED that Blacks were at least as good as pilots as whites.

    Actually superior. They placed mission over ego. You cannot dictate profession by race. Since America is 70% cauc, should 70% of whites strive to be in the NBA? NFL?

    It is as you have said. It is motivation. No one denied women Calculus in HS! They just had no interest! (The best student was also the best Football player, who was black – Doug Henderson – he got a full scholarship to ASU).

    You cannot dictate interest. And contrary to Woke ignorance,. there is an inherent difference between men and women. Neither is better. There just is. Deal with it

  22. cdquarles says:

    “You can lead a horse to water, but can’t make him drink. You can lead a child to knowledge, but can’t make him think.” Our host has nailed it. Education is personal, you get as much as you want during life. Don’t want much, you won’t get much; and generally, just enough to “get by”. Differentials like pay can positively motivate some, but not all, to be the best they can be. As said, they must “be hungry enough” on their own. Does that mean others can’t help, no, it doesn’t; yet it is the motivated visionary that makes new value. When they convince enough others to see how it makes value to them, they get rich in things. They were already rich, though. The poor lack this trait, and often thus end up poor in things, too. This kind of wealth can’t be “redistributed”, no matter how many socialists think their religion can make their wishes be true facts in the world.

  23. YMMV says:

    E.M.Smith: ““Learn To Code” is one I can speak to.”
    If anyone ever needs a one question aptitude test for this, here it is:
    “Do you like math?”
    They don’t mention that in their snarky comments.

    There are more dimensions to it, but that is the first principle component.

    cdquarles: education, motivation, “see how it makes value to them”, etc.

    True. One problem with traditional mass schooling is that the attitudes of others in the class influence the student’s attitude as much as most teachers do. In too many classrooms it’s not cool to be smart. Kids are smarter and more motivated than we think … for things that matter to them. Take skateboarding for example. You don’t have to tell them to practice skateboarding, yet they do it endlessly.

  24. philjourdan says:

    @CD – Yep! Exhibit, me and my brother. Supposedly he has a higher IQ. His life is in the toilet and mine is doing fine.

    Nothing to do with education as we had the same schools. Just different desires.

  25. philjourdan says:

    @YMMV – BINGO! I did not realize how much math played in programming until I had to optimize a search algorithm! I used logs to shorten the loop (based upon the theory of you do not have to search every iteration, just the first nth ones as after that you are repeating).

    Miners probably did not do well in math. Rocket Boys did, but they escaped mining.

  26. cdquarles says:

    I, for one, love math; and always have. Thus my love of music as well as science (old school), technology (yeah, I love building things), and yes, computer programming for my own use. One of my regrets in my old age, is stopping at differential calculus and getting a minor in biology instead. A triple minor, essentially wasn’t possible at my old alma mater.

  27. E.M.Smith says:


    Integral Calculus is not that hard once you have differentials (basically you do it backwards ;-)

    After that math becomes more abstract and not as useful (though I actually like statistics…)

    I’m glad I diverted into more computer programming and skipped the levels of math after partials and integrals (which are actually useful…)

    Oh, and for partials, you have 2 or more things you COULD do the derivative or integral on, but instead just hold them constant (ignore them in a way) and just do the one of interest. (Gross simplification but close…). I also didn’t see why folks found them hard.

    Geometry in many ways was the most elegant math I learned and loved. ~”Given as close to nothing as you can get, derive everything else AND PROVE IT.”… Pure wisdom…

  28. philjourdan says:

    @CD – want to know how big a geek I am? In first grade (I started late), when presented with my first math problems, I asked the teacher for more! LOL!

    Yea I have been L7 all my life.

    @EMS – Remember Lamba Calculus? IN the days before computers, I would use reams of paper to solve those suckers. Just took time and patience.

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