W.O.O.D. – 23 June 2021


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:

and remains open for threads running there (at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:

“Stuff” Happens

In a comment on the prior W.O.O.D. I noted that John McAfee had been found dead in a Spanish Prison:

McAfee antivirus software creator dead in Spanish prison
AOL Associated Press
June 23, 2021, 1:05 PM
MADRID (AP) — John McAfee, the creator of the McAfee antivirus software, has been found dead in his cell in a jail near Barcelona, a government official told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

Hours earlier, a Spanish court issued a preliminary ruling in favor of his extradition to the United States to face tax-related criminal charges.

Security personnel at the Brians 2 penitentiary near the northeastern Spanish city tried to revive McAfee, who was 75, but the jail’s medical team finally certified his death, a statement from the regional Catalan government said.

The statement didn’t identify the U.S. tycoon by name, but said he was a 75-year-old U.S. citizen awaiting extradition to the country. A Catalan government source familiar with the event who was not authorized to be named in media reports confirmed to the AP that the dead man was McAfee.

The charges refer to the three fiscal years from 2016 to 2018, according to the Spanish court’s ruling on Wednesday.

The entrepreneur was arrested last October at Barcelona’s international airport. A judge ordered at that time that McAfee should be held in jail while awaiting the outcome of a hearing on extradition.

In a hearing held via videolink earlier this month, McAfee argued that the charges against him were politically motivated and said he would spend the rest of his life in prison if he was returned to the U.S.

Wonder if he ever pissed off the Clinton’s…


John McAfee on Clinton: The FBI is either incompetent or corrupt in dealing with Hillary’s emails
A new look at the Hillary Clinton email saga seeks the truth behind the FBI’s involvement.

So that would be a “yes”…


Anti-virus software founder John McAfee was an outspoken, critic of the US government, and especially the Jeffrey Epstein sudden “suicide”. Now, all of a sudden, John McAfee has been found, dead of an apparent “suicide” in his Spanish jail cell, shortly before he was supposed to be extradited to the US. He spoke out a lot about the Clinton Crime Family.

An almost prophetic John McAfee tweeted this last October:

John McAfee
I am content in here. I have friends.

The food is good. All is well.

Know that if I hang myself, a la Epstein, it will be no fault of mine.

Clintoncide Days

Clintoncide Days

One can only hope that he has a trove of information somewhere on a “dead man switch”…

CDC admits vaccine causing heart problems


CDC safety group says there’s a likely link between rare heart inflammation in young people after Covid shot
Berkeley Lovelace Jr.

There have been more than 1,200 cases of a myocarditis or pericarditis mostly in people 30 and under who received Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine, according to CDC data.

Roughly 300 million of the shots had been administered as of June 11, the agency said.

For both vaccines combined, there were 12.6 heart inflammation cases per million doses.

That’s the number they have found at least.

Send In The Suits, There Must Be Suits…


1,000 Lawyers and 10,000 Doctors Join Together and File Lawsuit to Prosecute the “2nd Nuremburg Tribunal” Against Corona Fraud Scandal
By Joe Hoft
Published May 29, 2021 at 9:32am

Thousands of attorneys and doctors have joined forces to sue the CDC, WHO and the Davos Group for crimes against humanity.
Humansarefree reported in March:

Should the technocrats who pushed governments to lockdown their citizens be tried for crimes against humanity?

One prominent German lawyer, Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, [in photo below] who is also licensed to practice law in America, thinks they should. And he is organizing a team of thousands of participating lawyers who want to prosecute a “second Nuremberg tribunal” against a cadre of international elites responsible for what he calls the “corona fraud scandal.”

Fuellmich was on the legal team that won a major lawsuit against German automaker Volkswagen in a 2015 case involving tampered catalytic converters in the U.S. He also was involved in a lawsuit that exposed one of Germany’s largest banks, Deutsche Bank, as a criminal enterprise.

The bank was recently ordered by the U.S. Justice Department to pay $130 million to resolve corrupt practices that included money laundering, bribery and fraud between the years 2009 and 2016.

Fuellmich is licensed to practice law in Germany and the state of California.

He believes the frauds committed by Volkswagen and Deutsche Bank pale in comparison to the damage wrought by those who sold the Covid-19 crisis as the worst viral outbreak to hit the world in more than a century and used it to cause media-driven panic, government overreach and human suffering on a scale still not fully quantified.

The truth is revealed in the numbers, Fuellmich said, citing figures that show COVID-19 has not caused any statistically significant increase in the 2020 death counts over previous years.

This group claims the tests used to identify COVID-19 were faulty and was used to commit crimes against humanity.

Fuellmich and his team present the incorrect PCR test and the order for doctors to describe any comorbidity death as a Covid death – as fraud.

The PCR test was never designed to detect pathogens and is almost 100% inaccurate at 35 cycles. All PCR tests monitored by the CDC are set at 37 to 45 cycles. The CDC acknowledges that tests over 28 cycles are not allowed for a positive reliable result.

This invalidates over 90% of the alleged Covid cases / “infections” detected by the use of this incorrect test.

In addition to the incorrect tests and fraudulent death certificates, the “experimental” vaccine itself violates Article 13 of the Geneva Convention.

Under Article 32 of the 1949 Geneva Convention, “mutilation and medical or scientific experiments not required for the medical treatment of a protected person” are prohibited.

While the legal system can be incredibly slow and is a blunt instrument, it promises fun viewing for years to come… And this guy has a record of success against big companies.

Things of interest


‘Horrendous’: Ga. audit lawyer demands full investigation into Fulton County’s ballot irregularities
Attorney warns that county could be “undermining the will of the people.”

Alawyer spearheading a major ballot audit inside Georgia’s largest county is warning the irregularities apparent in that county’s election management are “horrendous” and cut against “the basic principle of our democracy.”

Atlanta-based attorney Bob Cheeley made those claims while talking to Just the News editor-in-chief John Solomon on Tuesday night’s “Securing our Elections: Protecting Your Vote” special on Real America’s Voice.

Cheeley is among the investigators approved by a Georgia court to audit the 2020 absentee ballots of Fulton County, Ga., a county critical to Joe Biden’s historic 2020 win of Georgia that helped propel him to the White House.

Just the News in recent weeks revealed what appear to be major data discrepancies in Fulton’s accounting of its absentee ballot numbers. Cheeley told Solomon on Tuesday that he and his team are working to “allow the truth to come out.”

Cheeley called attention to what appeared to be instances of double-counting and double-scanning of ballots within Fulton’s data, something he said “violates the basic principle of our democracy” and “smacks at the very heart of our democracy by undermining the will of the people.”

He also pointed to extensive notes by an election monitor hand-picked by Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger; those notes revealed the inspector’s belief that “massive” election issues were playing out in Fulton County before and during the 2020 election, including double counting and serious chain-of-custody and security issues surrounding absentee ballots.


Michigan county requesting state audit of 2020 election results
by Daniel Chaitin, Deputy News Editor |
| June 22, 2021 09:43 PM
| Updated Jun 23, 2021, 01:09 PM

A county in northern Michigan requested the state government to conduct an audit of its 2020 election results.

The GOP-controlled Cheboygan County Board of Commissioners voted 4-3 on Tuesday to send a letter requesting a recount and review of whether an “unauthorized computer” manipulated the tallies, according to the Detroit News.

The letter will be sent to Jonathan Brater, the state elections director named to the job in 2019 by Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson. A representative for Benson told the Washington Examiner that once her office will review the letter when it’s received, and the state will “respond to the commission directly.”


Pennsylvania poised to begin Arizona-style election audit with subpoena power
by Daniel Chaitin, Deputy News Editor |
| June 18, 2021 09:07 PM
| Updated Jun 20, 2021, 12:44 PM

Pennsylvania appears to be on the precipice of initiating an Arizona-style audit of the 2020 election.

State Sen. David Argall, who heads a committee that oversees elections, told local news outlets he favors a forensic audit of the contest that state and federal officials insist was secure.

The Republican, under pressure by former President Donald Trump to take action, told the Capital-Star the audit is now a “very real possibility.” The report said he is considering subpoenas for ballot information and has yet to decide which jurisdictions to send them.

“There are a lot of things under consideration right now, and I told them to check back in a week or two, and we hope to have some more detail,” he told the outlet after meeting with audit-supporting activists on Thursday.
Yet, just like Arizona Senate President Karen Fann — who has said the Maricopa County audit is not meant to overturn the 2020 election results but rather to restore trust in the system and influence possible changes to voting laws — Argall seems to acknowledge there will be no effort geared toward trying to change the results of the November contest, even if critics peg it as an effort meant to undermine confidence in the outcome, including Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf.

“The Electoral College has spoken. You know the president has been sworn in. I understand that’s a reality,”
he said Friday during Spotlight PA’s Capitol Live event.

Similar to efforts in other states, GOP lawmakers in Pennsylvania are pursuing a raft of voting reforms, and Argall argued an audit of the 2020 election would only help shore up the process.

And that’s an issue I’ve raised a few times too. Other than impeachment or the 25th, there is no obvious way to remove a sitting President once the Electoral College has voted.

But the trend is positive, so there’s that…

Couldn’t Happen To A More Deserving Group


Report: China’s Power Grid Failing Its Sprawling Southern Factory Belt

Some factories in southeastern China’s Guangdong province have been forced to rent energy generators in recent weeks after the state-run China Southern Power Grid failed to supply Guangdong and other provinces with sufficient energy supplies starting in May, Hong Kong’s Apple Daily newspaper reported on Monday.

Tang Xuehui, the general manager of a shoe factory in Guangdong’s Dongguan city, told Apple Daily in a report published on June 21 that the plant he manages “can produce 100,000 pairs of shoes each month, but the electricity restrictions in place since May have had a serious impact. The factory has had to rent its own generator in order to guarantee on-time delivery.”

Local power grid firms in Guangdong cities including Dongguan, Guangzhou, Foshan, and Shantou began issuing notices in late May “urging factory users in the region to halt production during peak hours, between 7:00 am and 11:00 pm, or even shut down for two to three days each week depending on the power demand situation,” Reuters reported on May 27, citing “five power users and local media reports.”

China’s state-run power grids have failed to supply sufficient power to factories across central and northern Chinese regions in recent weeks as well, including Zhejiang, Jiangsu, Shandong, Anhui, and Inner Mongolia, Apple Daily revealed on Monday.

Tang told Apple Daily this week he has rented a “high-cost diesel generator” to keep his Dongguan shoe factory running during recent power outages, but added that “rising coal prices have had a knock-on effect on diesel. The factory’s electricity costs have more than doubled.”

“The power restrictions are a double-whammy for manufacturers who have already been forced to lower production due to a recent surge in raw material prices including steel, aluminium, glass and paper,” Reuters noted in its May 27 report.

While the inflation of the prices of Chinese raw material goods and power outages have affected provinces across China in recent weeks, the effects of the fluctuations have been most acutely felt in Guangdong. The coastal Chinese province, located just north of Hong Kong, is one of China’s main export hubs and boasts an annual gross domestic product equivalent to that of South Korea, according to Reuters.

China’s state-run Taishan Nuclear Power Plant is located in Guangdong and supplies power for Guangzhou, the provincial capital, and Shenzhen, known as China’s Silicon Valley. The plant, which lies just 88 miles west of Hong Kong, recently suffered from “fuel-rod damage” according to China’s Ministry of Ecology and Environment.

The state-run China General Nuclear Power Group is the majority stakeholder and operator of Taishan Nuclear Power Plant, but it was also built with support from the power group Électricité de France (EDF), which is 85 percent French state-owned. The U.S.-based CNN news network published a letter by a subsidiary of EDF, Framatome, on June 14 warning of an “imminent radiological threat” from Taishan Nuclear Power Plant due to an “increase in the concentration of certain noble gases in the primary circuit of reactor no. 1.” The letter referred to a part of the plant’s cooling system.

Framatome added that the firm had “requested an extraordinary meeting of the power plant’s board ‘for management to present all the data and the necessary decisions,’” according to CNN. Framatome addressed its letter to the U.S. Department of Energy, according to CNN, which said the warning “included an accusation that the Chinese safety authority was raising the acceptable limits for radiation outside the facility in order to avoid having to shut it down.”

China’s Ministry of Ecology and Environment admitted on June 14 that it had recently documented “damage to fuel rods” at the Taishan Nuclear Power Plant but claimed that the problem was “common.”
The ministry’s statement said “fuel-rod damage during the operation of nuclear power plants is unavoidable” and “a common phenomenon,” the BBC reported on June 16.

Funny how we’ve not heard of a lot of “fuel rod damage” and leaking radioactive noble gasses from all the rest of the world. Just how “common” is “damage”, eh?

So it’s damaged AND they don’t want to shut it down? Sounds like a bad idea to me. I’d expect that “shut down and fuel rod swap” would be the better approach.

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227 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 23 June 2021

  1. philjourdan says:

    I am in full support of the lawyer!!! I will donate to his cause and hope he succeeds! They did perpetrate a crime against Humanity, on a scale Rivaling the reason for the first Nuremberg trials.

  2. H.R. says:

    “China’s state-run power grids have failed to supply sufficient power to factories across central and northern Chinese regions in recent weeks as well, including Zhejiang, Jiangsu, Shandong, Anhui, and Inner Mongolia, Apple Daily revealed on Monday.”

    OK. Now the World is kinda stuck.

    No one can make stuff in the old factories from which China stole all the jobs. And now China can’t make that stuff, either.

    It seems there is no Plan B.

  3. E.M.Smith says:


    Yeah, it could get interesting for a while.
    No, I’m not worried.


    Global inventory (Including stuff already bought and at home) on a whole lot of stuff is more than enough for months. Years maybe, with a little “make do”. I have enough pots, pans,TV sets, computers, cars and more for at least 5 years.

    I can DIY for a whole lot of stuff.

    Global production of stuff outside of China is not nil. Plenty of opportunities to expand it and extend product lines.

    A huge part of the Engineering Skill to make “stuff” of all sorts is outside of China. I know folks I can call up to design & build everything from oil refineries to coal power plants to computer chips and cell phones to cars. And so much more.

    Frankly, I’m more worried about global dependence on TSMC and China invading Taiwan knocking it off line. Waaaaayyyy to much stuff depends on semiconductors from only Taiwan…

    I can live happily with essentially nothing new from China. (Other folks will be uncomfortable, but whatever). It might be good to have some highly China dependent sectors get a wake up call…

  4. p.g.sharrow says:

    Fuel rod damage means they have been running the reactor too hot in an attempt to generate more steam to drive the turbines. The size of the fire in the boiler is always the limiting factor in nearly every steam cycle plant. Turbines and generators can be majorly overloaded for some time with no lasting problems. The “Fire” in the boiler is always the limit. The hotter the fuel rods the faster their structure breaks down. Too hot Too long ruins the reactor core and makes it more radioactive. No plan “B” is right. this is desperation. And they want to go to Electric Cars! Sounds like the Chinese have the same planners that California has…pg..

  5. H.R. says:

    @p.g. – Thanks for the info. EZ-peasy explanation. Sometimes, the simple answer is the right answer.
    @E.M. – Yeah, I get my made-in-China cat nail trimmers from the dollar store. They are just fine but don’t last long. I buy a pair about once per year. No biggie.

    The U.S. makers are out of the cat nail trimmer biz and can’t compete. There are plenty of Chinese cat nail trimmers in stock and in the pipeline.

    However!!!! …………….. I can come up with alternatives if I can’t get cat nail trimmers from any maker anywhere. The cat may protest, but he’ll survive. And whenever there’s a shortage of anything, someone will fire up some way to make…whatever… and make some money.

    China maybe should put on their ‘concerned face’. All those gains may go POOF!!

  6. Ossqss says:

    Ok, i think we should only have one category of participation for sports. That is pretty much what is being forced upon us. That will quickly cure the illness we have.

  7. E.M.Smith says:

    Some side reactions in a nuclear core result in heavy noble gasses like xenon, in radioactive isotopes. Run at design power levels or lower, with proper design of fuel rods and spec materials, with proper maintenance and reactor gas scrubbing:

    You don’t get gas production to excess nor fuel rod damage.

    If however you run the reactor at too high a neutron flux or too hot for too long:

    You get too much gas produced for the fuel rods and gas removal system. The rods can warp or even burst (worst case melt). Overrunning the gas scrubbers results in radio active gas venting.

    Continuing to run is nuts. It needs shutdown, refuling with new rod structures, and full inspection.

    China cut corners and pushed too hard (no surprise…) on a reactor. I’d not be surprised to find they had substandard materials in the build and rods that can’t even run at spec levels.

  8. E.M.Smith says:


    Says 5 or 6 fuel rods have cracks and are leaking reacting product gasses.

    Probably not a big risk. Unless the few indicate a systemic fuel bundle issue.

  9. jim2 says:

    I was wondering if anyone saw this link that the China vaccine is ineffective and they distributed it to a lot of other countries?


  10. jim2 says:

    This article also mentions an antiviral given to COVID patients in India …

    India has more than enough production capacity of anti-parasitic drug Ivermectin and the country is also self-sufficient in its raw materials, sources in the Central government have told News18.

    Per-month production capacity of the crucial Covid-19 drug is as high as 30 crore units while the current demand order stands at 7 crore per month.

    The excess supply is despite the Goa government’s decision to give Ivermectin to all adults irrespective of their coronavirus status in an attempt to bring down mortality.

    He said patients will be given Ivermectin 12 mg for a period of five days as expert panels from the UK, Italy, Spain and Japan have found a statistically significant reduction in mortality, time of recovery and viral clearance in COVID-19 patients treated with this medicine.


  11. jim2 says:

    Glenmark’s Fabiflu was among 25 drugs tested by the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) for treatment of COVID-19. The pharma company in its study stated that Fabiflu proved 88% effective on COVID-19 patients. However, the study wasn’t peer-reviewed immediately.

    Read more at: https://www.shethepeople.tv/news/what-is-fabiflu-the-drug-used-for-covid-19-treatment/


  12. Taz says:

    I hate routers EM Smith, and you’ve paid some recent dues. Also “drafted for tech support” here :(

    Trying to find a way to deal with family members new gigabit internet connection. Have pretty much given up on OpenWrt because it doesn’t support those hardware NAT accelerator chips properly. Now eyeing just how much CPU I’ll need to handle PFSense or IPfire. Unfortunately, no good guages exist.

    Based on your dental office “adventure”, what would you wager I’d need at minimum for a home user?

  13. Taz says:

    @jim2 Re: Chinese vaccine

    I just don’t understand China. These are not dumb people – yet they do the stupidest things. And lie to each other constantly.

    Ever hear of fake books? I’m told that nearly every Chinese businessperson keeps two sets of books. One they show the government, the other real.

    Now you can argue such behavior is widespread around the world – but the Chinese extreme is real.

    Well known. One of the easiest ways to accumulate loyal friends when working in China is to help them obtain western baby food. Chinese just don’t trust Chinese.

  14. E.M.Smith says:


    Per Chinese: One can be both very smart and immoral. China is not a Judeo-Christian culture. It has thousands of years of experience living under the boot of despotic emperors and corrupt governments… So “you do what is needed to live”.

    Per Router:

    It was unclear to me if you are attempting to build a router to interface to a Gbit network feed, or are trying to put a firewall device on the Gbit Network Telco router.

    In any case, the CPU ought not be limiting. Pretty much anything with a Gbit Ethernet interface that can run it at full speed ought to be fast enough (i.e. you ought to be wire speed limited anyway). Little SBCs with Gbit Ethernet on them but lacking internal I/O bandwidth or with very small processors may not be able to drive that interface at wire speeds, but that ought to show up in benchmark reports on that SBC.

    FWIW, the current crop of security appliances are about the size of a hardback high school chemistr book. i.e. they don’t have giant PC / Intel CPUs in them with 32 cores…

    For example, a ‘directed search’ on GigaBit router SBC turned up:

    So 5 Gigabit Ethernet ports and states:

    Sinovoip’s “Banana Pi BPI-R2” router SBC gives you 5x GbE, WiFi, BT, 2GB RAM, 8GB eMMC, SATA, and mini-PCIe, plus a quad-core -A7 MediaTek MT7623N.

    The Banana Pi BPI-R2 updates Sinovoip’s earlier BPi-R1 router board, later called the Banana Pi BPI-R1. No pricing or availability information was provided, but full specs and schematics are posted. Like the R1 and other Banana Pi single board computers such as the recent Banana Pi M2 Ultra, this is an open spec board supported by the Banana Pi community. The Banana Pi BPI-R2 runs Android 5.1, OpenWrt, Debian, Ubuntu Linux, including MATE, and Raspbian

    Like the R1, which debuted at $75, but no longer appears to be available, the R2 model runs Linux or Android, offers four GbE LAN ports, one GbE WAN port, and WiFi (802.11n) . Assuming its priced under $100, which seems possible given SinoVoip’s typically low prices, it will be considered a lower cost alternative to SolidRun’s 6-port, $180 ClearFog Pro and $110, dual-port ClearFog Base router boards. Other options here include the more fully open source Turris Omnia, supported as an invitation only project by CZ.NIC. The Turris Omnia debuted at $189.
    Instead of using an Allwinner A20 SoC, the R2 breaks with Sinovoip’s all-Allwinner tradition by advancing to a quad-core, Cortex-A7 MediaTek MT7623N. Clocked to 1.3GHz and accompanied by a Mali-450 MP4 GPU, the networking-oriented MT7623 family is equipped with network and storage accelerator chips, as well as a multi-standard video accelerator.

    The “N” version of the SoC adds audio bit stream input from HDMI and SPDIF, which MediaTek says is useful for Home Theater in a Box (HTIB) applications. It should be noted, however, that there’s no HDMI input or SPDIF on the R2 board. The SoC offers a hardware-based NAT engine with QoS that awards audio/video streams higher priority than other services, and adds support for both Gigabit Ethernet RGMII and TRGMII interfaces.

    Note that this was from 2017 so products have likely advanced since then. So a search on that product and things like support for the NAT engine ought to be fruitful. (Personally, I’d expect Debian to have anything in it you might need…)

    In general, running video in a browser is way more resource demand than anything that comes over the wire. Both for memory and CPU (video rendering is a big load, even if you use the graphics cores. I suspect, but don’t have proof for it, that many of the physically small security appliances have some of their code running in the video cores for packet inspection.)

    FWIW, others are in that market too. From 2020:


    NanoPi R2S Dual Gigabit Ethernet SBC & Router is Powered by Rockchip RK3328 SoC
    FriendlyElec launched NanoPi R1S router with two Ethernet ports based on either Allwinner H3 or H5 processor coupled with 512MB RAM last November. Both ports are “Gigabit” Ethernet port, but one is implemented via a USB 2.0 to Ethernet controller with a maximum bandwidth of around 330 Mbps.

    If you’d like to get two Gigabit Ethernet reaching close to 1 Gbps each, and your target application would benefit from a bit more memory, the company is now working on NanoPi R2S based on Rockchip RK3328 processor with 1GB DDR4 memory, one Ethernet port using the GMAC from the chip, and one Ethernet port relying one a USB 3.0 to Ethernet controller.

    Note that the chip is: RK3328 quad-core A53x4 64-bit processor so nothing exciting and it is still driving at about wire speed to 2 ports with one of them via a USB to ethernet controller.

    Basically, I think you will find that hardware demands to drive Gbit ethernet to wire speed are not that much.

    Now the question of packet inspection in between those two wires will largely depend on just how many rules you are evaluating and does your order of evaluation limit the frequency of very long chains of evaluation. I suspect that’s why you are not finding a lot of benchmarks. Because it depends a whole lot on what you are asking the filter to do and the order of filtering.

    Some discussion of SBC choices here:

    though I didn’t see a lot of filtering discussion.

    The redit looks at a different collection of gear:


    My general “gut feeling” is that a 4 x A53 / GByte memory 1.5 GHz+ board can likely drive 2 ports at Gbit rate (as long as the I/O on board is not hobbled as it is on the RPi); you likely will benefit from more memory, CPU GHz, and advanced cores for a LOT of filtering and packet inspection load. Something like the Odroid N2 is likely overkill, but would be nice…

    The biggest thing I’d be worried about is just “Is the needed software available / supported?”

    You will almost certainly find a SystemD based OS available (Ubuntu, Debian) but may have trouble finding a port of OpenWRT (especially one with full hardware support) or other router oriented software. Likely you will end up doing your own port / integration.

    It would likely be a lot faster and cheaper to just buy a box.

    A little more description of your intended application could result in a better more focused answer.

  15. E.M.Smith says:


    Ivermectin is made in ton lots all over the globe. It is one of the most widely used treatments for parasites in just about every farm animal. There’s way more cattle, pigs, sheep, horses etc. on the planet than there are people.

    Absolute worst case is that we could treat everyone on the planet as long as we didn’t worm cattle / sheep as often or we swapped them to a different wormer for a while.

    It is also a fairly easy molecule to make, so setting up new production isn’t hard either.

  16. E.M.Smith says:

    I’ve been thinking…

    About the “June-teenth Holiday”…

    I think we ALL ought to have a BIG PARTY every year when that comes around.

    AND put up big banners explaining that we are celebrating the “Day The Democrats FINALLY gave up on slavery” after the Republicans did the Emancipation Proclamation.

    After all, it was Southern Democrats who were running Texas then and it was Southern Democrats who fought for slavery… So hell yeah, celebrate the day when the Republicans finally defeated the Pro-Slavery Democrats!

  17. jim2 says:

    EMS – right on IVM. I was just added another data point to the COVID discussion.

  18. E.M.Smith says:


    I wasn’t criticizing, I was “piling on” with a “and this too!” ;-)

    Oh, and yeah, that PJ Media article you linked to was interesting:

    Like all things made in CCP China… it works a little bit until it fails on you… (at least that has been my experience with their stuff).

  19. jim2 says:

    EMS – I’m hoping the vaccine incident and electricity failures are signs of the central planning inefficiencies we expect to happen with a communist government. It would be far better if they crumble from within. The alternatives aren’t pretty.

  20. Taz says:

    @E.M. Smith

    Thanks. Some good info there. Accidentally spotted this one: http://linuxgizmos.com/qualcomm-router-board-offers-10gbe-and-wifi-6/ Which on the surface – looked to be perfect. Especially if I could somehow score official Qualcomm firmware. https://wallystech.com/products_show.php?id=34&lm=1

    Then noticed the price of similar boards. $1500 euros? Whooooooweeee :)

    My own “official” backup router is a $400 box. Cringed upon purchase. 64bit AMD processor in it. Spectre flaws mitigated in software – but never really fixed (thank you CPU industry). Did it just be be CERTAIN I would always be compatible with IPFire loads if things went south. Supposedly will reach 300mb/sec throughput with intrusion detection turned off.

    Actual box I use is old old dual core 64bit Atom. Zero CPU flaws – but doubt it could do 200mb/sec.

    So yeah, this 1gb internet is a real head scratcher. Thought it would be easy to find a simple box with a Qualcomm AR8327N hardware NAT switch. It’s not. Closest I’ve seen to anything low cost is that Archer 7…but you are stuck with the factory’s firmware. No DNS over TLS for you.

    There are some newer consumer routers which claim to handle these 1GB connections – but all are priced @$400+ :(

    Mutter,mutter….think I’ll just try an old T9300 Celeron Thinkpad with a busted display. If that doesn’t work, I’ll scream and use up an I5 Thinkpad instead. Still think a quality router for such connections should sell in the $200 range. It’s not like those vendors are missing economies of scale.

    Don’t like IPFire much either. Bunch of stuck up pigheaded Germans. Whut could go wrong?

    Best router I ever owned was that cheap POS DGL-5500. It was ALWAYS a Qualcomm router. Obvious they designed all of it. Just a closely followed reference design. Few features – but you could count on it. Proprietary QOS was nothing short of fantastic.

    Wish I could buy a Qualcomm reference router today :(

  21. AC Osborn says:

    EM I think there may be evidence of some COVID Vaccine ADE in the UK.
    The figures that came out last week were as follows.
    Hospitalised Unvaccinated = 527
    Hospitalised Vaccinated = 219, (135 with 1 dose and 84 with 2 doses)
    Unvaccinated died = 34 which is 6.5% of those hospitalised
    Vaccinated died = 36 which is 16.4% of those hospitalised
    Single Vaccinated died = 10 which is 7.4% of those hospitalised
    Double Vaccinated died = 26 which is 39% of those hospitalised

    If they get ill enough for hospitalisation they are 6 times more likely to die if they have been double vaccinated.
    It is quite possible that all the double vaccinated were very old and with multiple co-morbidities, but the Vaccines did not save them.

  22. AC Osborn says:

    EM, I forgot to say those numbers are all for the new Indian/Delta Variant.

  23. E.M.Smith says:

    I’ve lost track of who and how I was pointed at this article / video:

    But Mike Yeadon does an excellent job of summarizing all the crap science and crap political maneuvering masquerading as science.

    I’d not watched it until now as it is 1.5 hours long. So it sat a few weeks. My mistake. It is well worth the time.

    I’ve not said this before much (or at all?) but this is a “Must Watch” video.

    His technical abilities are quite strong. He keeps a “tidy mind” and knows both what he knows, and what he doesn’t know, along with the quality gradient of each. So he goes just to the edge of what can be supported, then stops.

    Unfortunately, that edge ends up at “Your government is trying to kill you”. Not unfortunate due to any logic error on his part. Unfortunate as that is very well supported and is most likely true. (OTOH, not really a ‘hard reach’ when you have some of the British Royals, Gates, and several UN Creatures all saying it publicly…)

    Of particular interest is that he is able to show exactly where the risks are, and why, for the mRNA jabs. It is his field of expertise.

    Sound a bit like “Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts (and minds?) of men”… (The Shadow knows…)? Well, maybe that’s because Sociopaths and Psychopaths exist and tend to rise to the top of political structures. History is just chock full of them, and not just the latest German ones. British Kings and French Aristocracy didn’t fare too well on that count either. Spanish Conquistadors and Viking Raiders have a bit of a reputation too. Chinese Emperors (or “Presidents”…) and Cambodian killing fields… Or just the Japanese Empire attempts to take over China and destroy America not that long ago.

    The simple fact is that the world governments are dominated by evil actors lusting for power; because they are the ones with the combination of enough power lust to “go for it” and the lack of moral guardrails to let them do the evil needed to displace the Greedy Evil Bastard already in the seat. We have a “survival of the fittest” paradigm running that actively selects for them to “run the world”. So don’t be surprise when they want to run it for their gain and your loss. Government is not your friend, and Government Leaders as often as not (or more so…) would like nothing more than to enslave you or kill you. (Otherwise things like the slaughter of W.W. I would not have happened…)

    But I’m running far afield of the video… it’s mostly about biochemistry and why the mRNA jab “has issues” of a major sort. While we’ve covered the big bits here, Yeadon packages it nicely, supplies some missing detail, and makes a strong chain of reasoning behind it.

  24. Ossqss says:

    FWIW, If you want a distraction, this was quite fascinating from a forensic standpoint. The video he did, and contained in the article, was quite interesting. I will never look at my electric meter the same again :-)


  25. jim2 says:

    New search alternative!


  26. another ian says:



  27. jim2 says:

    Due to hearing loss I can’t understand much of the Yeadon video. Wish there were a text version. Arrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhh!

  28. jim2 says:

    Let’s throw another log on the fire!

    About a year ago, genetic sequences from more than 200 virus samples from early cases of Covid-19 in Wuhan disappeared from an online scientific database. Now, by rooting through files stored on Google Cloud, a researcher in Seattle reports that he has recovered 13 of those original sequences — intriguing new information for discerning when and how the virus may have spilled over from a bat or another animal into humans. The new analysis, released on Tuesday, bolsters earlier suggestions that a variety of coronaviruses may have been circulating in Wuhan before the initial outbreaks linked to animal and seafood markets in December 2019. As the Biden administration investigates the contested origins of the virus, known as SARS-CoV-2, the study neither strengthens nor discounts the hypothesis that the pathogen leaked out of a famous Wuhan lab. But it does raise questions about why original sequences were deleted, and suggests that there may be more revelations to recover from the far corners of the internet.


  29. jim2 says:

    Thanks, Paul.

  30. p.g.sharrow says:

    I’ve been “surfin the net” on Pine Needle Tea. Pine Oil is a source of Suramin a 100 year known agent treatment for parasites and fevers. stumbled on this as well;

    “Jacques Attali was an advisor to François Mitterrand (former President of France) and wrote this in 1981:”

    “In the future it will be a question of finding a way to reduce the population. We will start with the old man, because once he is over 60-65 years old, man lives longer than he produces and it costs society dearly.

    Then the weak and then the useless who do not contribute anything to society because there will be more and more, and especially finally the stupid.

    Euthanasia directed at these groups; euthanasia must be an essential instrument of our future societies, in all cases.

    Of course, we will not be able to execute people or organize camps. We will get rid of them by making them believe that it is for their own good.

    Too large a population, and for the most part unnecessary, is something economically too expensive. Socially, it is also much better for the human machine to stop abruptly rather than gradually deteriorate.

    We won’t be able to pass intelligence tests on millions and millions of people, you can imagine!

    We will find something or cause it; a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the elderly, it does not matter, the weak and the fearful will succumb.

    The stupid will believe it and ask to be treated. We will have taken care of having planned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution.

    The selection of idiots will therefore be done by itself: they will go to the slaughterhouse alone. “ This fragment is excerpted from his book “Brief History of the Future”, published in France in 2006.”

    Kind of makes you wonder what sort of people our Leaders are…pg

  31. p.g.sharrow says:

    Of note, I just made of Needle tea from Cedar, and Fir, Quite tasty. Tomorrow I will collect White Pine and try that. Our very plentiful Ponderosa seems to be some level toxic and should be avoided. The above mentioned Suramin is supposed to be a treatment to limit the effects of the Covid Jab even for those Not inoculated but in danger from those that are.
    It maybe that the Elites are keeping this as their secret weapon to save themselves. “Pine Needle tea”, actually needle tea from many kinds of conifers,has been used by humans for thousands of years to treat many ailments and Vitamin deficiencies, C&A in particular. …pg

  32. Ossqss says:

    @EM, that video was a superb summation of the SHTF things that have happened. Somebody needs to get him on Tucker. We have all been following this stuff for 18 months. Most of the Globe has no clue how to connect the obvious dots. Just sayin……

  33. David A says:


    Link to post about potential Mcafee drop. No idea if it means anything.

  34. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A:

    I’d love to see a “drop” that shows it was a murder…


    Once, about 60 years ago, camping with Mum & Dad, Mum was making tea using an open pot on the fire. In retrospect, realizing she was a City Girl from Liverpool, it must have been quite the experience for here being in California Pine Forest in a camper…

    At any rate, just as she was tossing tea into the pot, a clump of pine needles fell into it. Don’t know what kind (never got good at tree identification) but the were about 6 inches long and there were a half dozen joined at the end.

    Well, that was all the tea we had, so not going to toss it. We had a cup’a all around…

    It was remarkably good and all of us felt rather energetic the rest of the morning.

    Mum made jokes about “Pine needle tea” for years after.

    Now I see “It’s a thing”…

    Per The French Thing:

    That seems to be a recurring theme among the Sociopathic Masters Of The Universe. I think it would be prudent to believe them when they say that’s their goal…

    @Jim2, Paul – Somerset, H.R.:

    There seems to be a theme here with several of use deaf to various degrees. I’ve wondered for many decades if being partially deaf was protective against subliminal audio indoctrination…

    Or is it just that it’s so damned hard to get a clear message communicated that you can’t understand the mind set that would deliberately “dirty up” the channel. (And any dirt in the channel runs into an ECC – Error Correction Code – process that flags it as BS Dirt…)

    I used to think that damaged hearing was a loss. Increasingly I’m seeing it as a feature… Keeps a lot of the crap out and keeps you focused on what is provably correctly transmitted.

  35. another ian says:

    Defund The Academics! CSIRO, Australian Uni’s had worked with Wuhan Lab too (and they forgot to mention it for 18 months?)”


  36. David A says:

    E.M , perhaps the tattoo on his arm is, at the least, strongly indicative of murder.
    Yet the link to some release with addresses supposed to be indicative of a possible dead man drop to release damaging information on his enemies was entirely unclear to me.
    ( I did not even understand what they were insinuating)

    @another Ian, Australia as well? And our joint chief of staff just defended communism. And who was it on the O admin who said her favorite political philosopher was Mao?

    To all these statist the USA has been and is the big Satan, and they are doing a pretty good job tearing her down. It will be a very bad day for the European statist if they succeed. China has no interest in playing second fiddle to them.

  37. another ian says:

    David A

    You wouldn’t happen to know a character of oil Wally W by any chance?

  38. David A says:

    another Ian, nope, but the question intrigues me.

  39. Simon Derricutt says:

    On a lighter note, see https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2021/06/grrrooooaaaannn.html for a really bad pun.

  40. another ian says:


    With an introduction and a pun like that I had to bookmark

  41. jim2 says:

    Paul, Somerset. Starting to read the articles and already feel better about taking the mRNA shot. By his reckoning, considering my age and health conditions, it makes sense to take it. Everyone must consider their own situation.

  42. jim2 says:

    One thing I don’t understand about the discussion of the spike protein. So mRNA vaccines induce cells to produce the spike protein. Getting a COVID 19 infection ALSO induces cells to create the spike protein, plus the virus particles have the spike protein and presumably there will be individual spikes all over your insides as the virus is degraded and I doubt the viral replication process is perfect, so that might also result in spike proteins.

    Given the above, getting COVID could produce all the problems the mRNA vaccines would cause. So why would you want younger people to just get the disease?

  43. Paul, Somerset says:

    jim2: I believe the thinking is that when encountering the real, whole virus, you either deal with it via your innate immunity (in this case the mucosal membranes in your nose and throat) or, if you’re not in the best of condition, and the virus evades your innate immunity, your adaptive immune system will generate antibodies to deal with it. In this case those antibodies will attempt to neutralize all parts of the virus, not just the spike-protein epitope. So, if you encounter the virus again, or one of a similar type but with alterations, your body will generate a range of defences,some of which will likely be enough to deal with the new virus. This appears to be what has happened with the vast majority of people in good health who’ve encountered this new SARS-2 virus. The memory of previous beta-coronaviruses, such as the OC-43 type, thought to have originally emerged as the so-called Russian flu of 1889 but now just a cold, or SARS-1, has been enough to deal with SARS-2.

    But, with these vaccines, all you’re getting is antibodies to one feature of this particular virus – the spike protein. If you later encounter the real virus, these antibodies may be inadequate to fully neutralize the virus, because either the number or the quality of the antibodies has waned. In that case the spike protein on the virus can actually use these non-neutralizing antibodies as a hook to enter your cells. This, as I understand it, is the phenomenon of ADE.

    But, if you’ve previously encountered the real virus, your body will generate a host of antibodies to target the whole virus, and ADE through inadequate or insufficient antibodies would not be an issue.

    As usual, I’m happy to have it pointed out where I might have misunderstood all this.

    (There’s also the issue of the Hoskins effect, which we see with flu vaccines, where repeated injections against the same class of virus sometimes leave the body unable to deal with a virus of that class which has significantly drifted from the original – the body just keeps producing ineffective antibodies rather than generating new, correct ones; but, I admit, that this is just a pet concern of my own no one else seems worried!)

  44. Paul, Somerset says:

    Re those of us who are deaf: there’s an old saying among gamblers in this part of the world – if you want to be a good judge at the racetrack, the number-one rule is to keep your eyes open and your ears closed.

  45. Simon Derricutt says:

    Jim2 – logically, for minimum known risk, you’d want people to get Covid, take Ivermectin to delay the replications of the virus to slow-enough (and limit the number produced) so that the immune system has enough time to recognise them, and gear up to remove them (which takes around a couple of weeks), and then they’d be immune to that variant and have some built-in immunity to similar variants.You’d also want to make sure that such people had adequate vitamin D and Zinc levels, so their immune systems would have the resources to deal with the infection.

    Seems like the problems are to do with having too many viruses or spike proteins in your body, since production of the virus generally kills the cell, thus cell damage/inflammation in whatever system it has attacked. Effectively sepsis.

    It’s however complex, and I may have misunderstood the processes.

    For the mRNA vaccines, I don’t know whether the production of the spike protein is limited or whether it will continue as long as that modified cell lives. Yep, it is probably safer than producing virus, since AFAIK producing the spike won’t kill the cell.

    Whichever route you take, though, it’s not known yet which is safer. Also, whichever route you take, it seems essential to get extra vitamin D and enough Zinc to enable your immune system to do the necessary job, since it’s always going to be the immune system that deals with the virus.

    A standard unknown I see with vaccines is in the adverse reactions – but my point is that the people who react adversely to the vaccine could well be the ones who would have suffered the worst with the disease. Thus it’s not at all straightforward to assign risks. Given that each person’s biochemistry and DNA will be a bit different, each person is an experiment with n=1. As Dirty Harry said, are you feeling lucky? As a kid, I had mumps, measles, and chicken-pox, and it’s known that some people can have long-term effects or die from the disease, but that far fewer have it from the vaccine. Would the kids that get damaged from the vaccine have been the ones who suffered worst with the disease? No way to tell…. All we can say is that fewer people get badly ill when a sufficient proportion have been vaccinated and the disease is circulating.

    My main cavil with these Covid-19 vaccines is that they are not designed to stop people getting either infected or infectious, but instead only to reduce the degree of illness the virus causes in those people. Thus vaccinated people will still have the virus multiplying in them when infected, and if one of those replications goes a bit wrong and produces a variant that escapes the virus, they’ll produce a lot of it and start a new variant that will infect vaccinated people and make them ill. Basically, standard evolution and survival of the fittest. We’re selecting for new variants that evade the vaccines. Compare with Marek’s disease in chicken.

    That’s why the Ivermectin route seems better to me, since it will delay/stop all variants, and though there’s obviously a possibility of producing a variant that escapes Ivermectin, it appears that the things Ivermectin slow or stops are fundamental to the virus and thus we can’t see the virus changing to get around that. Also, with far fewer replications, the chance of other variants emerging are much lower, too.

    Not really worth worrying about whether the decision to take the vaccine was the best option. Just boost your vitamin D in the sun and otherwise make sure your immune system is up to scratch, since it’s almost certain that a variant will come along that will evade the vaccine. If that happens, on this blog and others there have been detailed medicines that do actually help enough for your immune system to deal with it. The chances of dying from it are pretty low anyway, relative to other causes.

    another ian – glad you liked it!

  46. Simon Derricutt says:

    Paul, Somerset – “There’s also the issue of the Hoskins effect”

    Seems that’s the main point of Geers Vanden Bossche, too, so you’re not alone in thinking that’s a problem. Since he’s spent his life working in vaccine production, there’s a pretty good chance he’s actually correct (though there’s always that problem of misinterpreting results and getting fixed on one explanation to the exclusion of others).

  47. jim2 says:

    Dr. Yeadon, IMO, should have emphasized taking HCQ and/or IVM instead of simply stating that people are better off just getting COVID. COVID has some nasty effects on some people, including long-term covid. I know that’s a real thing because I know a nurse that cares for those people. She said they can be fine and smiling one day and stone cold dead the next.

  48. jim2 says:

    From what I’ve read, and it makes sense to me, the mRNA has a limited lifetime. First, there are a fixed quantity of mRNA molecules. Second, they fade after a few days. So they don’t hang around forever making spike proteins the rest of your life. If they did, it might be a good thing since it would keep your immune system peaked and there would be no need for a booster later, unless some variant became a unique serotype.

    A DNA “vaccine” on the other hand might make spike proteins forever, for better or worse.

    What Stops the Body from Continuing to Produce the COVID-19 Spike Protein after Getting an mRNA Vaccine?


    What would you say to people who are afraid that mRNA vaccines alter your DNA?

    It’s simply not true. In fact, it’s the other way around. DNA makes RNA. The mRNA in the COVID-19 vaccines only goes into a certain part of the cell — the outer part known as the cytoplasm. It doesn’t go into the cell’s nucleus, the part of the cell where the DNA lives. And, mRNA doesn’t last very long because its job is to give the information to the cell — a blueprint for how to make a protein — and then it goes away.


  49. jim2 says:

    Here’s another interesting bit that may or may not apply to mRNA or a covid-19 infection.

    Last year, a study in Nature showed that people who were infected with severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), a different coronavirus outbreak that killed almost 800 people in 2003, maintained T-cell immunity 17 years after they recovered.


  50. A says:

    Jim2 at 2:13pm
    In which case it should have been impossible for the spoke protein to spread throughout the body and end up in every organ
    Which is what the Japanese found in their part of the Pfizer trial.

  51. jim2 says:

    A – I’m not finding the Japanese paper about the spike protein spreading throughout the body. Do you happen to have the link to the actual paper?

  52. E.M.Smith says:

    First, a sidebar:

    It IS possible for RNA to end up transcribed and in your DNA;

    The herpes virus, among many others, does this and as a result about 17% of your DNA is of viral origin (over evolutionary time scales it has built up). In fact, mammals exist because of a viral insertion that makes an immunity barrier protein on the surface of the placenta.

    That’s part of the worry. That protein is very similar to some of the Chinese Wuhan Covid protein.

    HOWEVER… mRNA has some special structures on each end to make it transcribe into proteins but not be inserted into the nucleus. Provided they stay intact…


    So almost certainly for almost everyone there will be no reverse transcription into the nucleus.

    The devil is in the almost…

    As cellular chemistry is not perfect, in fact it can be quite messy, and as molecules can and do have stochastic breaking / degradation, there is a very very small chance “something goes wrong” and the RNA goes where it ought not to have been…

    IMHO not enough to worry about for any one individual.


    Any cell manufacturing spike proteins (the migrate to the cell surface and present…) will be attacked by the immune system and ought to be destroyed. “Ought to be” being the key point. Nature is not a precise machine and makes errors regularly.


    Per Kids and Covid vs Jab – Kids look to be nuking this thing with innate immunity only and without a load of spike proteins or their damage. It is the older population where the viral load goes high, the immune system goes into hyperdrive, and a flood of spike protein ravages the body.

    It is, IMHO, stupid to inflict that kind of spike protein damage on children who otherwise do not get it and just at most have sniffles. The jab is designed to bypass the innate immune system and “poke the bear” of antibody production. IMHO that’s a bit daft as we know it is the antibody system that does a bad job of it with this kind of virus. (From cytokine storms to ADE and more). So my take on it is that nature wants the innate immune system as the front line to prevent that, and it works well in kids, so why bypass it and make them ill with spike proteins?

    At a bare minimum, they ought to be given ivermectin with the jab so that it can bind to the end of the protein spike and minimize damage. But IMHO they ought to just be left alone. They will not form a ‘reservoir’ of virus. Start of school every kid will either get it or be immune already and they as a cohort join the Herd Immunity group. Just like with the zillion other things they get and exchange at the “daily germ exchange” of school classrooms. (Spouse taught little ones… we are way familiar with the Daily Germ Exchange…)

  53. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and one other detail:

    In ADE, it is the particular cells that the antibody binds to that make it a big problem. It isn’t just any cells.

    At high antibody levels, the antibodies neutralize the virus and all is good. When the antibody level drops to a low level (which may take a couple of years), then one leg of the Y binds to the virus and the other binds to a White Blood Cell. Then the virus infects (and eventually kills) that white blood cell.

    Normally the antibody presents the virus to the White Blood Cells and the WBC recognizes it and mobilizes the whole immune system against that virus ( memory T cells are the library of past infections); but in ADE the virus deposits the payload into the WBC and takes it over, making more viruses and blocking the immune response. It wipes out the sentries and recruits your front line WBCs to its ends.

    It wipes out the very cells used by your immune system to fight it.

    This, BTW, it the mechanism by which HIV kills too. It takes out the white blood cells. Though HIV gets put into the nucleus like Herpes so there’s no cure, just suppression.

    So that’s the problem with ADE and why a 2nd round of, for example, Dengue Fever, is so much worse than the first time you get it. At the early stage of the second exposure, it takes down the white blood cells charged with attacking it, so gets a free path to infect the whole body rapidly.

    Supposedly the spike protein analog used in the jab was designed so as not to cause ADE. But then again, the virus doesn’t know that… I have trouble seeing how an antibody that WILL bind to the spike protein of Chinese Wuhan Covid can prevent the virus from “doing what it will do” and inserting the RNA down that path. So I’m left to just HOPE that they did a good job of it.

    IIRC the first folks to get the jab as test subjects were about January of 2020, so about January of 2022 we ought to have a very good indication of the probability. Some, perhaps, as early as this summer.

  54. jim2 says:

    EMS – the reverse transcription requires three component, not just a single type of mRNA, so for the vaccine case, like you said, it ain’t bloody likely. Even if it does occur, it will be extremely rare. You are probably more likely to get struck by lightning.

    It’s been three months since my second jab … waiting and watching with IVM at the ready :)

  55. E.M.Smith says:

    Not the Japan paper, but a discussion of it:

    I found the study. Named “Biodistribution Study”. Unfortunately, it is in Japanese:

    This claims to be an English translation:

    Which I found from a link here: https://www.planet-today.com/2021/06/horrifying-study-reveals-mrna-vaccine.html#gsc.tab=0 (that was reached from a web search on the header line in the Japanese version).

    The translation seems to be missing the photos / charts of the original, so you need to look at both of them to see what the charts are and what the text around them says.

    This link: http://www.kathydopp.info/COVIDinfo/Vaccines/VaccineADE

    Has a graph I’ve seen before of where the nanoparticles end up along with a LOT of links on to other stuff. Probably a bit over hyped, but a nice accumulator of links

  56. jim2 says:

    For Dengue Fever, it comes in 4 serotypes. So getting sick with serotype A won’t protect you from serotypes B, C, and D.

  57. E.M.Smith says:


    An amusing factoid, but to what purpose? IIRC all 4 are prone to the same ADE.


    Got some good snickers and chuckles out of these:

  58. cdquarles says:

    Hmm, I may be misremembering, but the herpes virus family are DNA viruses. Ah, here is a wiki link (keep in mind the limitations): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_virus.

  59. cdquarles says:

    The main reason I am waiting is that there isn’t enough good data for those who have autoimmune diseases (not that there is/was much good data for anyone). Let us not forget Coxsackie B virus, among others.

  60. cdquarles says:

    As a reminder, the HIV virus is a lentivirus, which means that it is zoonotic, enveloped, an RNA virus, and *does* do reverse transcription natively.

  61. jim2 says:

    EMS – RE: Dengue Fever serotypes and ADE:

    Unlike viruses like measles or mumps that only have one type, dengue virus has four different forms, called “serotypes.” These serotypes are very similar, but slight differences among them set the stage for ADE. If a person is infected by one serotype of dengue virus, they typically have mild disease and generate a protective immune response, including neutralizing antibodies, against that serotype. But, if that person is infected with a second serotype of dengue virus, the neutralizing antibodies generated from the first infection may bind to the virus and actually increase the virus’s ability to enter cells, resulting in ADE and causing a severe form of the disease, called dengue hemorrhagic fever.


  62. E.M.Smith says:


    Only reason I mentioned Herpes was as an example of virus in general that can incorporate into cellular DNA. I was not asserting it was RNA / retro… just to clarify what I ought to have said up front.


    So the variations enhance the ADE. Not Good for Chinese Wuhan Covid as it is tossing variations like crazy. Something like 40,000 already identified (almost all of them irrelevant coding for the same or substantially similar proteins). One hopes it doesn’t start throwing significantly different variations that exploit the antibodies from the jab.

  63. jim2 says:

    EMS – concur on Wuhan variations. Thus far, no variation has varied enough to create a second serotype. But the virus has pretty much forever to get aroundtuit.

  64. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh the Ironing… /snark; Alert…

    Another Liberal Ph.D. lacking street smarts learns about life, and death, the hard way:


    Very pretty girl. Raised in too safe a space to know about Real Life ™. Sad really.

    Doctoral Candidate Who Published Paper To ‘Prove’ American Justice System Was Racist Against Blacks Is Stabbed To Death By Black Male In Chicago
    a day ago

    A doctoral candidate who believed that high levels of African American incarceration are the result of America’s systemic racism, not disparate rate of crime committed within the group, was murdered by a black man in Chicago.

    Anat Kimchi, a 31-year-old Israeli-born doctoral candidate, scholar and anti-racist hero at the University of Maryland, attempted to prove that America’s criminal justice system was racist against “young black offenders” and “black drug offenders.” in a paper published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology in 2019.

    While visiting Chicago over the weekend, Kimchi was reportedly ambushed and stabbed in the back and neck while walking near a homeless encampment at 401 South Wacker at around 3:35 p.m. Police said witnesses told them the assailant was a homeless “slim black male with long dreadlocks who wore a red bandana and a blue tank top,” CWB Chicago reported.

    Wonder if BLM will hold a street “protest” for her?… /sarc;

  65. E.M.Smith says:

    Not really familiar with this site, but has some interesting stuff:


    Needs some unpacking of the jargon, but basically says you can have blood problems, and OTT immunity issues especially if prone to allergies. That “Th2 immunopathology” bit that sounds a lot like what happened to Robert Felix.

    Some helpful background / definition links:

    Fc-mediated means the docking port for an antibody on the immune system cells:

    A Fc receptor is a protein found on the surface of certain cells – including, among others, B lymphocytes, follicular dendritic cells, natural killer cells, macrophages, neutrophils, eosinophils, basophils, human platelets, and mast cells – that contribute to the protective functions of the immune system. Its name is derived from its binding specificity for a part of an antibody known as the Fc (fragment crystallizable) region. Fc receptors bind to antibodies that are attached to infected cells or invading pathogens.

    Atopy is all those OTT immune reaction those of use with allergies get as our skin goes nuts.

    Atopy is the tendency to produce an exaggerated immunoglobulin E (IgE) immune response to otherwise harmless substances in the environment. Allergic diseases are clinical manifestations of such inappropriate, atopic responses.

    Atopy may have a hereditary component, although contact with the allergen or irritant must occur before the hypersensitivity reaction can develop (characteristically after re-exposure). Maternal psychological trauma in utero may also be a strong indicator for development of atopy.

    What the heck is a TH2 thingy?

    T lymphocytes are a major source of cytokines. These cells bear antigen specific receptors on their cell surface to allow recognition of foreign pathogens. They can also recognise normal tissue during episodes of autoimmune diseases. There are two main subsets of T lymphocytes, distinguished by the presence of cell surface molecules known as CD4 and CD8. T lymphocytes expressing CD4 are also known as helper T cells, and these are regarded as being the most prolific cytokine producers. This subset can be further subdivided into Th1 and Th2, and the cytokines they produce are known as Th1-type cytokines and Th2-type cytokines.

    Th1-type cytokines tend to produce the proinflammatory responses responsible for killing intracellular parasites and for perpetuating autoimmune responses. Interferon gamma is the main Th1 cytokine. Excessive proinflammatory responses can lead to uncontrolled tissue damage, so there needs to be a mechanism to counteract this. The Th2-type cytokines include interleukins 4, 5, and 13, which are associated with the promotion of IgE and eosinophilic responses in atopy, and also interleukin-10, which has more of an anti-inflammatory response. In excess, Th2 responses will counteract the Th1 mediated microbicidal action. The optimal scenario would therefore seem to be that humans should produce a well balanced Th1 and Th2 response, suited to the immune challenge.

    Many researchers regard allergy as a Th2 weighted imbalance, and recently immunologists have been investigating ways to redirect allergic Th2 responses in favour of Th1 responses to try to reduce the incidence of atopy. Some groups have been looking at using high dose exposure to allergen to drive up the Th1 response in established disease,1 and other groups have been studying the use of mycobacterial vaccines in an attempt to drive a stronger Th1 response in early life.2

    So it is a kind of T Helper cell that promotes an OTT inflammation response. OK… I have it… Helps me fight off all sorts of stuff a LOT faster than those around me, at the expense of allergies… AND makes me a bad candidate for the Jab as I’m much more likely to react badly…

    Then eosinophilia is when you have too many white blood cells floating about indicating disease or a tendency to an allergic profile.


    Eosinophilia is a condition in which the eosinophil count in the peripheral blood exceeds 5×108/L (500/μL). Hypereosinophilia is an elevation in an individual’s circulating blood eosinophil count above 1.5 x 109/L (i.e. 1,500/μL). The hypereosinophilic syndrome is a sustained elevation in this count above 1.5 x 109/L (i.e. 1,500/μL) that is also associated with evidence of eosinophil-based tissue injury.

    Eosinophils usually account for less than 7% of the circulating leukocytes. A marked increase in non-blood tissue eosinophil count noticed upon histopathologic examination is diagnostic for tissue eosinophilia. Several causes are known, with the most common being some form of allergic reaction or parasitic infection.

    With that under our belt, we can actually kind of read this thing:

    57 Top Scientists And Doctors Release Shocking Study On COVID Vaccines And Demand Immediate Stop to ALL Vaccinations
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    A group of 57 leading scientists, doctors and policy experts has released a report calling in to question the safety and efficacy of the current COVID-19 vaccines and are now calling for an immediate end to all vaccine programs. We urge you to read and share this damning report.

    There are two certainties regarding the global distribution of Covid-19 vaccines. The first is that governments and the vast majority of the mainstream media are pushing with all their might to get these experimental drugs into as many people as possible. The second is that those who are willing to face the scorn that comes with asking serious questions about vaccines are critical players in our ongoing effort to spread the truth.

    You can read an advanced copy of this manuscript in preprint below. It has been prepared by nearly five dozen highly respected doctors, scientists, and public policy experts from across the globe to be urgently sent to world leaders as well as all who are associated with the production and distribution of the various Covid-19 vaccines in circulation today.

    There are still far too many unanswered questions regarding the Covid-19 vaccines’ safety, efficacy, and necessity. This study is a bombshell that should be heard by everyone, regardless of their views on vaccines. There aren’t nearly enough citizens who are asking questions. Most people simply follow the orders of world governments, as if they have earned our complete trust. They haven’t done so. This manuscript is a step forward in terms of accountability and the free flow of information on this crucial subject. Please take the time to read it and share it widely.

    SARS-CoV-2 mass vaccination: Urgent questions on vaccine safety that demand answers from international health agencies, regulatory authorities, governments and vaccine developers
    Roxana Bruno1, Peter McCullough2, Teresa Forcades i Vila3, Alexandra Henrion-Caude4, Teresa García-Gasca5, Galina P. Zaitzeva6, Sally Priester7, María J. Martínez Albarracín8, Alejandro Sousa-Escandon9, Fernando López Mirones10, Bartomeu Payeras Cifre11, Almudena Zaragoza Velilla10, Leopoldo M. Borini1, Mario Mas1, Ramiro Salazar1, Edgardo Schinder1, Eduardo A Yahbes1, Marcela Witt1, Mariana Salmeron1, Patricia Fernández1, Miriam M. Marchesini1, Alberto J. Kajihara1, Marisol V. de la Riva1, Patricia J. Chimeno1, Paola A. Grellet1, Matelda Lisdero1, Pamela Mas1, Abelardo J. Gatica Baudo12, Elisabeth Retamoza12, Oscar Botta13, Chinda C. Brandolino13, Javier Sciuto14, Mario Cabrera Avivar14, Mauricio Castillo15, Patricio Villarroel15, Emilia P. Poblete Rojas15, Bárbara Aguayo15, Dan I. Macías Flores15, Jose V. Rossell16, Julio C. Sarmiento17, Victor Andrade-Sotomayor17, Wilfredo R. Stokes Baltazar18, Virna Cedeño Escobar19, Ulises Arrúa20, Atilio Farina del Río21, Tatiana Campos Esquivel22, Patricia Callisperis23, María Eugenia Barrientos24, Karina Acevedo-Whitehouse5,*

    1Epidemiólogos Argentinos Metadisciplinarios. República Argentina.
    2Baylor University Medical Center. Dallas, Texas, USA.
    3Monestir de Sant Benet de Montserrat, Montserrat, Spain
    4INSERM U781 Hôpital Necker-Enfants Malades, Université Paris Descartes-Sorbonne Cité, Institut Imagine, Paris, France.
    5School of Natural Sciences. Autonomous University of Querétaro, Querétaro, Mexico.
    6Retired Professor of Medical Immunology. Universidad de Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
    7Médicos por la Verdad Puerto Rico. Ashford Medical Center. San Juan, Puerto Rico.
    8Retired Professor of Clinical Diagnostic Processes. University of Murcia, Murcia, Spain
    9Urologist Hospital Comarcal de Monforte, University of Santiago de Compostela, Spain.
    10Biólogos por la Verdad, Spain.
    11Retired Biologist. University of Barcelona. Specialized in Microbiology. Barcelona, Spain.
    12Center for Integrative Medicine MICAEL (Medicina Integrativa Centro Antroposófico Educando en Libertad). Mendoza, República Argentina.
    13Médicos por la Verdad Argentina. República Argentina. ´
    14Médicos por la Verdad Uruguay. República Oriental del Uruguay.
    15Médicos por la Libertad Chile. República de Chile.
    16Physician, orthopedic specialist. República de Chile.
    17Médicos por la Verdad Perú. República del Perú.
    18Médicos por la Verdad Guatemala. República de Guatemala.
    19Concepto Azul S.A. Ecuador.
    20Médicos por la Verdad Brasil. Brasil.
    21Médicos por la Verdad Paraguay.
    22Médicos por la Costa Rica.
    23Médicos por la Verdad Bolivia.
    24Médicos por la Verdad El Salvador.
    * Correspondence: Karina Acevedo-Whitehouse, karina.acevedo.whitehouse@uaq.mx

    Since the start of the COVID-19 outbreak, the race for testing new platforms designed to confer immunity against SARS-CoV-2, has been rampant and unprecedented, leading to emergency authorization of various vaccines. Despite progress on early multidrug therapy for COVID-19 patients, the current mandate is to immunize the world population as quickly as possible. The lack of thorough testing in animals prior to clinical trials, and authorization based on safety data generated during trials that lasted less than 3.5 months, raise questions regarding the safety of these vaccines. The recently identified role of SARS-CoV-2 glycoprotein Spike for inducing endothelial damage characteristic of COVID-19, even in absence of infection, is extremely relevant given that most of the authorized vaccines induce the production of Spike glycoprotein in the recipients. Given the high rate of occurrence of adverse effects, and the wide range of types of adverse effects that have been reported to date, as well as the potential for vaccine-driven disease enhancement, Th2-immunopathology, autoimmunity, and immune evasion, there is a need for a better understanding of the benefits and risks of mass vaccination, particularly in the groups that were excluded in the clinical trials. Despite calls for caution, the risks of SARS-CoV-2 vaccination have been minimized or ignored by health organizations and government authorities. We appeal to the need for a pluralistic dialogue in the context of health policies, emphasizing critical questions that require urgent answers if we wish to avoid a global erosion of public confidence in science and public health.

    Since COVID-19 was declared a pandemic in March 2020, over 150 million cases and 3 million deaths have been reported worldwide. Despite progress on early ambulatory, multidrug-therapy for high-risk patients, resulting in 85% reductions in COVID-19 hospitalization and death [1], the current paradigm for control is mass-vaccination. While we recognize the effort involved in development, production and emergency authorization of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, we are concerned that risks have been minimized or ignored by health organizations and government authorities, despite calls for caution [2-8].

    Vaccines for other coronaviruses have never been approved for humans, and data generated in the development of coronavirus vaccines designed to elicit neutralizing antibodies show that they may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) and Th2 immunopathology, regardless of the vaccine platform and delivery method [9-11]. Vaccine-driven disease enhancement in animals vaccinated against SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV is known to occur following viral challenge, and has been attributed to immune complexes and Fc-mediated viral capture by macrophages, which augment T-cell activation and inflammation [11-13].

    In March 2020, vaccine immunologists and coronavirus experts assessed SARS-CoV-2 vaccine risks based on SARS-CoV-vaccine trials in animal models. The expert group concluded that ADE and immunopathology were a real concern, but stated that their risk was insufficient to delay clinical trials, although continued monitoring would be necessary [14]. While there is no clear evidence of the occurrence of ADE and vaccine-related immunopathology in volunteers immunized with SARS-CoV-2 vaccines [15], safety trials to date have not specifically addressed these serious adverse effects (SAE). Given that the follow-up of volunteers did not exceed 2-3.5 months after the second dose [16-19], it is unlikely such SAE would have been observed. Despite92 errors in reporting, it cannot be ignored that even accounting for the number of vaccines administered, according to the US Vaccine Adverse Effect Reporting System (VAERS), the number of deaths per million vaccine doses administered has increased more than 10-fold. We believe there is an urgent need for open scientific dialogue on vaccine safety in the context of large-scale immunization. In this paper, we describe some of the risks of mass vaccination in the context of phase 3 trial exclusion criteria and discuss the SAE reported in national and regional adverse effect registration systems. We highlight unanswered questions and draw attention to the need for a more cautious approach to mass vaccination.

    SARS-CoV-2 phase 3 trial exclusion criteria
    With few exceptions, SARS-CoV-2 vaccine trials excluded the elderly [16-19], making it impossible to identify the occurrence of post-vaccination eosinophilia and enhanced inflammation in elderly people. Studies of SARS-CoV vaccines showed that immunized elderly mice were at particularly high risk of life-threatening Th2 immunopathology [9,20]. Despite this evidence and the extremely limited data on safety and efficacy of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines in the elderly, mass-vaccination campaigns have focused on this age group from the start. Most trials also excluded pregnant and lactating volunteers, as well as those with chronic and serious conditions such as tuberculosis, hepatitis C, autoimmunity, coagulopathies, cancer, and immune suppression [16-29], although these recipients are now being offered the vaccine under the premise of safety.

    Another criterion for exclusion from nearly all trials was prior exposure to SARS-CoV-2. This is unfortunate as it denied the opportunity of obtaining extremely relevant information concerning post-vaccination ADE in people that already have anti-SARS-Cov-2 antibodies. To the best of our knowledge, ADE is not being monitored systematically for any age or medical condition group currently being administered the vaccine. Moreover, despite a substantial proportion of the population already having antibodies [21], tests to determine SARS-CoV-2-antibody status prior to administration of the vaccine are not conducted routinely.

    Will serious adverse effects from the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines go unnoticed?
    COVID-19 encompasses a wide clinical spectrum, ranging from very mild to severe pulmonary pathology and fatal multi-organ disease with inflammatory, cardiovascular, and blood coagulation dysregulation [22-24]. In this sense, cases of vaccine-related ADE or immunopathology would be clinically-indistinguishable from severe COVID-19 [25]. Furthermore, even in the absence of SARS-CoV-2 virus, Spike glycoprotein alone causes endothelial damage and hypertension in vitro and in vivo in Syrian hamsters by down-regulating angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) and impairing mitochondrial function [26]. Although these findings need to be confirmed in humans, the implications of this finding are staggering, as all vaccines authorized for emergency use are based on the delivery or induction of Spike glycoprotein synthesis. In the case of mRNA vaccines and adenovirus-vectorized vaccines, not a single study has examined the duration of Spike production in humans following vaccination. Under the cautionary principle, it is parsimonious to consider vaccine-induced Spike synthesis could cause clinical signs of severe COVID-19, and erroneously be counted as new cases of SARS-CoV-2 infections. If so, the true adverse effects of the current global vaccination strategy may never be recognized unless studies specifically examine this question. There is already non-causal evidence of temporary or sustained increases138 in COVID-19 deaths following vaccination in some countries (Fig. 1) and in light of Spike’s pathogenicity, these deaths must be studied in depth to determine whether they are related to vaccination.

    Unanticipated adverse reactions to SARS-CoV-2 vaccines
    Another critical issue to consider given the global scale of SARS-CoV-2 vaccination is autoimmunity. SARS-CoV-2 has numerous immunogenic proteins, and all but one of its immunogenic epitopes have similarities to human proteins [27]. These may act as a source of antigens, leading to autoimmunity [28]. While it is true that the same effects could be observed during natural infection with SARS-CoV-2, vaccination is intended for most of the world population, while it is estimated that only 10% of the world population has been infected by SARS-CoV-2, according to Dr. Michael Ryan, head of emergencies at the World Health Organization. We have been unable to find evidence that any of the currently authorized vaccines screened and excluded homologous immunogenic epitopes to avoid potential autoimmunity due to pathogenic priming.

    Some adverse reactions, including blood-clotting disorders, have already been reported in healthy and young vaccinated people. These cases led to the suspension or cancellation of the use of adenoviral vectorized ChAdOx1-nCov-19 and Janssen vaccinesin some countries. It has now been proposed that vaccination with ChAdOx1-nCov-19 can result in immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT) mediated by platelet-activating antibodies against Platelet factor-4, which clinically mimics autoimmune heparin-induced thrombocytopenia [29]. Unfortunately, the risk was overlooked when authorizing these vaccines, although adenovirus-induced thrombocytopenia has been known for more than a decade, and has been a consistent event with adenoviral vectors [30]. The risk of VITT would presumably be higher in those already at risk of blood clots, including women who use oral contraceptives [31], making it imperative for clinicians to advise their patients accordingly.

    At the population level, there could also be vaccine-related impacts. SARS-CoV-2 is a fast-evolving RNA virus that has so far produced more than 40,000 variants [32,33] some of which affect the antigenic domain of Spike glycoprotein [34,35]. Given the high mutation rates, vaccine-induced synthesis of high levels of anti-SARS-CoV-2-Spike antibodies could theoretically lead to suboptimal responses against subsequent infections by other variants in vaccinated individuals [36], a phenomenon known as “original antigenic sin” [37] or antigenic priming [38]. It is unknown to what extent mutations that affect SARS-CoV-2 antigenicity will become fixed during viral evolution [39], but vaccines could plausibly act as selective forces driving variants with higher infectivity or transmissibility. Considering the high similarity between known SARS-CoV-2 variants, this scenario is unlikely [32,34] but if future variants were to differ more in key epitopes, the global vaccination strategy might have helped shape an even more dangerous virus. This risk has recently been brought to the attention of the WHO as an open letter [40].

    The risks outlined here are a major obstacle to continuing global SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Evidence on the safety of all SARS-CoV-2 vaccines is needed before exposing more people to the184 risk of these experiments, since releasing a candidate vaccine without time to fully understand the resulting impact on health could lead to an exacerbation of the current global crisis [41]. Risk-stratification of vaccine recipients is essential. According to the UK government, people below 60 years of age have an extremely low risk of dying from COVID-191 187 . However, according to Eudravigillance, most of the serious adverse effects following SARS-CoV-2 vaccination occur in people aged 18-64. Of particular concern is the planned vaccination schedule for children aged 6 years and older in the United States and the UK. Dr. Anthony Fauci recently anticipated that teenagers across the country will be vaccinated in the autumn and younger children in early 2022, and the UK is awaiting trial results to commence vaccination of 11 million children under 18. There is a lack of scientific justification for subjecting healthy children to experimental vaccines, given that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that they have a 99.997% survival rate if infected with SARS-CoV-2. Not only is COVID-19 irrelevant as a threat to this age group, but there is no reliable evidence to support vaccine efficacy or effectiveness in this population or to rule out harmful side effects of these experimental vaccines. In this sense, when physicians advise patients on the elective administration of COVID-19 vaccination, there is a great need to better understand the benefits and risk of administration, particularly in understudied groups.

    In conclusion, in the context of the rushed emergency-use-authorization of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, and the current gaps in our understanding of their safety, the following questions must be raised:

    Is it known whether cross-reactive antibodies from previous coronavirus infections or vaccine206 induced antibodies may influence the risk of unintended pathogenesis following vaccination with COVID-19?
    Has the specific risk of ADE, immunopathology, autoimmunity, and serious adverse reactions been clearly disclosed to vaccine recipients to meet the medical ethics standard of patient understanding for informed consent? If not, what are the reasons, and how could it be implemented?
    What is the rationale for administering the vaccine to every individual when the risk of dying from COVID-19 is not equal across age groups and clinical conditions and when the phase 3 trials excluded the elderly, children and frequent specific conditions?
    What are the legal rights of patients if they are harmed by a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine? Who will cover the costs of medical treatment? If claims were to be settled with public money, has the public been made aware that the vaccine manufacturers have been granted immunity, and their responsibility to compensate those harmed by the vaccine has been transferred to the tax-payers?
    In the context of these concerns, we propose halting mass-vaccination and opening an urgent pluralistic, critical, and scientifically-based dialogue on SARS-CoV-2 vaccination among scientists, medical doctors, international health agencies, regulatory authorities, governments, and vaccine developers. This is the only way to bridge the current gap between scientific evidence and public health policy regarding the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. We are convinced that humanity deserves a deeper understanding of the risks than what is currently touted as the official position. An open scientific dialogue is urgent and indispensable to avoid erosion of public confidence in science and public health and to ensure that the WHO and national health authorities protect the interests of humanity during the current pandemic. Returning public health policy to evidence-based medicine, relying on a careful evaluation of the relevant scientific research, is urgent. It is imperative to follow the science.

    1 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-reported-sars-cov-2-deaths-in-england/covid-19-confirmed-deaths-in-england-report

    Conflict of Interest Statement
    The authors declare that the research was conducted in the absence of any commercial or financial relationships that could be construed as a potential conflict of interest.

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    Figure 1. Number of new COVID-19 deaths in relation to number of people that have received at least one vaccine dose for selected countries. Graph shows data from the start of vaccination to May 3rd 365 , 2021. A) India (9.25% of population vaccinated), B) Thailand (1.58% of population vaccinated), C) Colombia (6.79% of population vaccinated), D) Mongolia (31.65% of population vaccinated), E) Israel (62.47% of population vaccinated), F) Entire world (7.81% of population vaccinated). Graphs were built using data from Our World in Data (accessed 4 May 2021) https://github.com/owid/covid-19-data/tree/master/public/data/vaccinations


  66. Paul, Somerset says:

    Interesting to see the phenomenon of “original antigenic sin” being mentioned in this paper. This being the source of the Hoskins effect, where repeated flu vaccinations against the same original strain of virus result in a lack of response to a significantly different variant of that strain in the future.

    This passage struck me too: “if future variants were to differ more in key epitopes, the global vaccination strategy might have helped shape an even more dangerous virus …”

    They’re concentrating on variants of the Wuhan virus here. But what if it’s the next coronavirus to leak from a lab which happens to be the one to differ sufficiently in its key epitopes …?

    This has been the scenario that’s been nagging at me for weeks. Not that mutations of the current Wuhan virus will be sufficient to trigger ADE or the Hoskins effect – since, as Mike Yeadon contends, the mutations seen so far have been so trivial that antibodies generated by the vaccines will recognize them all. No. My concern is the dozens of other coronaviruses that labs in China (and probably elsewhere) have been enhancing with gain-of-function research. What happens when the next one escapes, and that one happens to display just the right amount of antigenic drift to leave everyone injected with these vaccines acutely vulnerable?

    In that scenario the vaccines are the weapon, and a future viral leak is the trigger to set it off.

    Furthermore, how can vaccinated folk deal this possibility? If they turn down second shots and boosters, then their antibody titer declines, leaving them vulnerable to ADE. But if they do keep getting booster shots, then they leave themselves vulnerable to the Hoskins effect.

    If the vaccines really are a weapon, then they’re a diabolically cunning one. Let’s hope that the virus does just carry on pootling along with minimal degrees of mutation, and that there are no more lab leaks of similar viruses. In that case, all my scaremongering becomes moot!

  67. tom0mason says:

    As far as I can see it all these strange ‘vaccines’ are based on genetic modification technology and have had very little animal testing to ascertain how safe they are in animals or humans (both in the short and long term.)
    If someone offered you a plate of genetically modified food with the same level of testing, would you eat it?
    If the ‘powers that be’ required all processed and most fresh food would be subjected to this GMO change, how would you feel?

  68. jim2 says:

    Zinc treatment induced chemokine and inflammatory cytokine release from HL-CZ cells. Inhibition of NFκB activity by over-expression of IκBα in HL-CZ cells did not block the conditioned medium-induced ICAM-1 protein expression in HUVEC cells. Zinc treatment induced activation of multiple immune response-related transcription factors in HL-CZ cells. These results clearly show that zinc ions induce chemokine and inflammatory cytokine release from human promonocytes, accompanied with activation of multiple immune response-related transcription factors.


  69. jim2 says:

    in vivo

    in vitro

    and now …

    in silico …

  70. E.M.Smith says:

    @Paul, Somerset

    That whole basket of AwShits is exactly why I’ve been extremely reluctant to get on the vaccine treadmill. Why I’m much more interested in innate immunity boosting and ivermectin. (Why I’m looking to buy an RV and some dirt far far away from cities… well, that, and I like camping ;-)

    Maybe I’ve spent too much time in Security, fighting off Bad Guy Black Hats and their sets of Warez and Viruses and crap. Maybe I’m just too tuned in to how Bad Guys escalate privileges and work back doors and do Human Factors Manipulations…. Or maybe that’s THE best skill set for smelling what this crap is really all about. And to me it just stinks.

    Something is up, I just don’t know exactly what.


    The animal testing showed ADE in most cases. supposedly they found a majic subset that doesn’t do it… so they say… I am not convinced. How does that go?

    Rats lie, Primates mislead, Humans tell the truth? Something like that.

    We ARE running an entirely 100% de novo Experimental Test. There is NO usable human data from testing. There is damn little from public experimentation. I choose to stand aside and defend myself with my best skill.

    Per GMO food:

    I already avoid it as far as I reasonably can. Animal reports are that Bt Toxin Corn tears up the guts of farm animals but not enough to kill them before slaughter so that’s OK… even if the Bt Toxin ends up in the meat you eat. Glyphosate (Roundup) is used to “dry down” whole fields of wheat… never mind that it might be killing you slowly.

    I find it more than a bit odd that every single thing that gets a high load of GMO “stuff” in it has become a “food allergy” for me a few years later. First corn. Then beef. Some pork now seems a bit problematic. Wheat is causing ever more issues (though I’m still OK with modest amounts).

    Not a problem? Grass Fed animals that don’t have Bt Toxin in their feed. Grains that don’t get Glyphosate “dry down” treatments to make harvest easier.

    So no, I won’t eat GMO food under the conditions you state, and try to avoid it under all conditions. Not out of some fantasy fear, but because when I eat it I have “issues”…


    Zink is involved in some 400-ish enzyme systems. Just what happens when will be extraordinarily complex to sort out. WHY it happens even harder.

    Also, the glass to silico thing: The point? (For those of us not following along well enough…)

    IOW: I appreciate your links but would like to know more what you are thinking about them so it isn’t a blind hunt / speculation.

  71. jim2 says:

    I was looking for more information on ADE and was a bit surprised to find the one about zinc causing ADE.

    “in silico” apparently has become a term in “science” papers for computer model.

    In other news, I find Rhinovirus has 100 serotypes. I was wondering if they could cause ADE. So far, no evidence I’ve been able (not) to find on the inter-tube.

  72. Ossqss says:

    Go Bolts > Whooohoo! Up for back to back……>

    Y’all need a distraction.

  73. Ossqss says:

    To ensure the message makes it. THE Tampabay Lightning made it to the Stanley Cup Finals, tonight again!

  74. E.M.Smith says:

    OMG! Tampa Bay in the Stanley Cup and I’m not in Florida yet? I think I need to take that offer the realtor sent to me and buy and RV and book it back there NOW!…

  75. another ian says:
  76. another ian says:

    Not the Bee

    “Down a Black Hole
    Even the hard sciences are no longer immune to the ongoing racial hysteria.
    Heather Mac Donald”


    Via https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2021/06/

  77. jim2 says:

    There are a couple of good articles on WUWT this morning. “Andrew Neil challenges Extinction Rebellion co-founder: ‘Why don’t you ever mention China?’” and “Climate Scientist: “Politics Is Now The Battleground For Climate Change””

    These got me wondering about the GEBs trying to kill us all with COVID and its vaccine. It seems to me it would have been easier just to allow business as usual WRT CO2 emissions. Let global warming kill us all off. Everybody loves gasoline and plastics, no?

  78. p.g.sharrow says:

    I really went down the rabbit hole yesterday. The ADE problem is not a problem to the GEBs it is the feature. It is their tool to accumulate power,and wealth as swell as eradicate 85% of the worlds population.

  79. jim2 says:

    PGS – Well, the proclivities of the “little head” may have saved GB. One thing we can always count on is chaos, for good or bad …

    UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock has been caught having an affair with one of his millionaire university chums, Gina Coladangelo, whom he appointed as an aide using taxpayer money.

    This is bad news, obviously, for Hancock’s wife and children. But it’s great news for everyone else because it raises the heartwarming possibility that Hancock, by some margin the most hated minister in Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s cabinet, may finally be booted out of the Cabinet.

    Clearly having affairs is not in itself a sackable offence: if it were Johnson himself would not have kept any of his political appointments for more than about 10 minutes. But what the story does do, most definitely, is expose Hancock to the charge of egregious hypocrisy. For over 18 months now, he has been the man on the television screen ordering the whole of Britain under virtual house arrest with almost everyone, on his orders, forbidden from mingling with anyone outside their household bubble on pain of huge fines.


  80. jim2 says:

    And here’s a video of Hancock exercises his personal social distancing policy …


  81. jim2 says:

    Some in the Cabinet are tired of lock downs and masks:

    Earlier this month, Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced a delay to the end of all legal coronavirus restrictions from June 21st to July 19th amidst concerns over the Indian strain of the Chinese virus.

    Chancellor of the Exchequer Rishi Sunak, the second-highest ranking minister in the British government, was asked whether he would stop wearing a face-covering as soon as it was no longer a legal requirement, responding in remarks reported by The Telegraph: “Yes, as soon as possible.

    “Things are looking good for July 19, as the Prime Minister said, and my strong expectation is we can lift these major restrictions then and get back to normal.”

    Mr Sunak was the second minister to announce he would be ditching the mask after similar remarks from Environment Secretary George Eustace on Thursday.

    Eustace told Sky News on Thursday that he “wouldn’t” be wearing the mask if there were no longer a legal compulsion to do so, adding: “To be honest, once I’m told that it’s safe not to, I want to get back to normal. I think a lot of people will want to shed those masks.”


  82. p.g.sharrow says:

    @jim2; A part of the story is that the Prime Minister will make the lock downs permanent 19 July “due to multiplications of variants” with an increase in “vaccinations” until “vaccing” becomes mandatory.
    Tenders have been put out to supply collection and storage of bodies in the London areas.
    Deaths from the “vaccing” will be blamed on the variants to increase panic…pg

  83. jim2 says:

    You mentioned earlier that UK might be seeing ADE based on more deaths in hospitals. I’m wondering if a second serotype might have emerged. This could still mean ADE is happening.

  84. p.g.sharrow says:

    In my opinion from all the information I have seen is that each batch of inoculates has a different load of active ingredients so that it becomes a crap shoot as to outcome due to ADE reactions. Add to this a official scare campaign to get people to take a series of shots until the desired outcome is reached. …pg

  85. Ossqss says:

    @PG, upon review, I am not buying that memo item. The style and content is such that would be created by a high school student. Let alone coming from a discredited modeler who started the whole lockdown thing last year. JMHO

  86. cdquarles says:

    About rhinoviruses and ADE, well, for anyone that’s not severely immunosuppressed, the actual illness is one of the mildest ones humans get. I’d guess that having that many serotypes is something that limits ADE. Just my guess, though.

    One thing I do need to go check is the question: “Does zoonosis happen with rhinoviruses in particular and with enteroviruses in general?”, whereas we do know that zoonosis does happen with influenza viruses and with corona viruses (and did happen with the lentivirus family SIV to HIV).

  87. jim2 says:

    Looks like the AZ audit is winding down. They are beginning to pack it up. One item left undone is the audit of the machines. Those are still visible in the basement. I’m not sure if those are the voting machines or the tabulators, or what. Last I read, the auditors didn’t have the passwords for whatever those are.

    OAN is reporting the AZ leg will act if necessary on the audit results even though the session will end before the audit results are known.

    This will be interesting.

  88. E.M.Smith says:

    Well my “scrape” of iceagenow.info completed:

    FINISHED –2021-06-26 18:02:41–
    Total wall clock time: 2d 22h 46m 2s
    Downloaded: 17054 files, 709M in 1h 13m 1s (166 KB/s)

    real 4246m1.794s
    user 2m0.545s
    sys 1m4.318s

    Almost 3 days, mostly in the long pauses that lets it pass as a human not a script. Only 4 minutes of compute time (since the bulk of what it does is I/O when it isn’t just pausing…)

    There were a fairly large number of 404 not found messages that I suspect where embedded objects that are now gone. The usual “bit rot” of links to external things that the originator has removed. (I’ve got a fair number of those too, from before I learned to just always make a copy of anything you link to… or any image you include. Though to stay under the free storage limit of WordPress, most of mine are on a disk offline, to be uploaded whenever the original is found to be gone…)

  89. another ian says:

    “The present assessment raises the question whether it would be necessary to rethink policies and use COVID-19 vaccines more sparingly and with some discretion only in those that are willing to accept the risk because they feel more at risk from the true infection than the mock infection. Perhaps it might be necessary to dampen the enthusiasm by sober facts? In our view, the EMA and national authorities should instigate a safety review into the safety database of COVID-19 vaccines and governments should carefully consider their policies in light of these data. Ideally, independent scientists should carry out thorough case reviews of the very severe cases, so that there can be evidence-based recommendations on who is likely to benefit from a SARS-CoV2 vaccination and who is in danger of suffering from side effects. Currently, our estimates show that we have to accept four fatal and 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations in order to save the lives of 2–11 individuals per 100,000 vaccinations, placing risks and benefits on the same order of magnitude.”

    More at


  90. another ian says:

    “Patrick J Michaels, via Judith Curry,

    In the academy the free interchange of competing ideas creates knowledge through cooperation, disagreement, debate, and dissent. Kaufmann’s landmark study proves that the last three in that list are severely suppressed and punished. The pervasiveness of such repression may be a death sentence for science, free inquiry, and the advancement of knowledge in our universities.

    I am led to that dire conclusion because the universities appear to have no way to prevent this fate. No solution can arise from within the academy because it selects its own lifetime faculty, which is largely left wing—increasingly so—and makes the promotion of dissenters highly unlikely. Kaufmann demonstrates profoundly systemic discrimination by leftist faculty against colleagues they find disagreeable. […]

    Kaufmann’s study is shocking in its depth, even to academics (like me) who experienced for decades what he describes. He documents all aspects of an academic career, from advanced graduate study to landing a faculty position, research funding, publication, and promotion. That normal career progression is all but derailed if a person expresses a scintilla of non-left views in casual conversations, faculty meetings, public discourse, teaching, grant applications, submitted publications, or the promotion process.”

    Links at


  91. Power Grab says:

    @ jim2:
    There is a video on this page where they discuss the Japanese research:

  92. Power Grab says:

    @ jim2:
    Here is another video where Dr Tom Cowan talks about the “bio-distribution” problem that was just brought to light:
    My sibling who recently retired from a medical career watched it with me when it first came out. They were amazed, disgusted, and appalled at the news.

  93. another ian says:

    “JoeBamanomics – An Honest Outlook of Inflation and What is Coming
    June 26, 2021 | Sundance | 73 Comments”


  94. jim2 says:

    RE: Bio-distribution. Thanks for that PG. A little more searching turned up this. t’s a good read.

    However, the EMA referenced study PF-07302048 and its biodistribution results as below:

    ”Biodistribution of a LNP-formulated luciferase surrogate reporter”:

    (Meaning they substituted a luciferine protein in place of the actual mRNA part of the vaccine. Using Luciferine to follow biodistribution of a product is common practice. Technically, it is not following the mRNA vaccine itself but following where the LNP container-luciferine goes as a surrogate to understanding where the mRNA may go. This is important to understand.)

    “To determine the biodistribution of the LNP-formulated modRNA, the applicant did study distribution of the modRNA in two different non-GLP (Good Laboratory Practice) studies, in mice and rats,

    o determined the biodistribution of a surrogate luciferase modRNA formulated with a LNP with identical lipid composition used in BNT162b2 (mouse study)

    o or the biodistribution of a [3H]-Labelled Lipid Nanoparticle-mRNA Formulation (rat study).

    The mouse study used three female BALB-c mice per group and luciferase protein expression was determined by in vivo bioluminescence readouts using an In Vivo Imaging System (IVIS) following injection of the luciferase substrate luciferine.
    The readouts were performed at 6h, 24h, 48h, 72h, 6d and 9d post IM injection (intended clinical route) in the right and left hind leg with each 1 μg (total of 2μg) of LNP-formulated luciferase RNA.
    In vivo luciferase expression was detected at different timepoints at the injection sites and in the liver region indicating drainage to the liver.
    As expected with an mRNA product, the luciferase expression was transient and decreased over time.
    Luciferase signals at the injection sites, most likely reflecting distribution to the lymph nodes draining the injection sites, peaked 6h post injection with signals of approximately 10 000 times of buffer control animals.
    The signal decreased slowly during the first 72 hours and after 6 and 9 days the signals were further weakened to approximately levels of 18 and 7 times the signals obtained from animals injected with buffer control.
    The signals from the liver region peaked 6h post injection and decreased to background levels 48h after injection
    The liver expression is also supportive of the data from the rat PK study and the findings in the rat repeat-dose toxicological study showing reversible liver vacuolation and increased GGT levels.

    “The biodistribution was also studied in rats using radiolabeled LNP and luciferase modRNA (study 185350).”

    “The radiolabeling data, measuring distribution to blood, plasma and selected tissues, of IM injection of a single dose of 50 μg mRNA over a 48-hour period is considered more sensitive than the bioluminescence method and indicate a broader biodistribution pattern than was observed with bioluminescence.
    Over 48 hours, distribution from the injection site to most tissues occurred, with the majority of tissues exhibiting low levels of radioactivity.
    Radioactivity was detected in most tissues from the first time point (0.25 h) and results support that injections site and the liver are the major sites of distribution.
    The greatest mean concentration was found remaining in the injection site at each time point in both sexes.
    Low levels of radioactivity were detected in most tissues, with the greatest levels in plasma observed 1-4 hours post-dose.
    Over 48 hours, distribution was mainly observed to liver, adrenal glands, spleen and ovaries, with maximum concentrations observed at 8-48 hours post-dose.
    Total recovery (% of injected dose) of radiolabeled LNP+modRNA outside the injection site was greatest in the liver (up to 21.5%) and was much less in spleen (≤1.1%), adrenal glands (≤0.1%) and ovaries (≤0.1%).
    The mean concentrations and tissue distribution pattern were broadly similar between the sexes.
    No evidence of vaccine-related macroscopic or microscopic findings were found in the ovaries in the repeat-dose toxicity studies (Study 38166 and Study 20GR142)
    and no effects on fertility were identified in the DART, Developmental and Reproductive Toxicology, study.”*


  95. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Then there’s “Folks like me” who would have been great as an Academic, but decided not to bother as the schools were so incredibly painfully left wing and escaping with a degree and my mind intact was all I wanted to do…

    I did get a teaching credential for Junior College level, and for several years taught part time both on campus and off campus in companies (retreading their staff with computer skills…). Lucky for me there was little in the way of “inspection” of part time staff political leanings; mostly just interested in if you knew the computer stuff that was in demand and were willing to accept a paltry payment when compared to your Day Job in Tech Mecca…

    How to fix it? Simple, and likely not going to happen:

    Set up new Conservative Institutions that specify in their charter their bias and that it must be met. Set them up as a counterbalance to the hard left alternatives. Just like we have Rumble and Odysee and Bitchute rising to compete with EwTube and Minds, Gab, etc. instead of Faceplant and Twatter. The only way the problem can be fixed is by starting anew and away.

    @Jab Distribution:

    We already knew the stuff was not staying put, but nice to have the metrics / analysis on it. That liver concentration is likely why there is so much portal vein and other liver circulation clot problems. Something like 40 times more than the CVT (brain clots) that got a pause…

    Given how broadly it can spread, and thus cause tissues all over your body to present inflammation and clotting inducting spike proteins, it is no surprise we get such a high variety of “side effects” and bad reactions. It’s literally making your body attack itself all over the place as cells all over start making spike proteins.


    Of course a drug can be “right wing”. Especially if it works and would derail the Left Wing Plan of making everyone suffer to create a crisis to exploit. ANY drug that worked would be anathema to the Left Wing (and is… as they vilify every treatment shown to work…)

    That that family had to sue the hospital to get it just shows the depths of depravity now.

  96. E.M.Smith says:

    It’s all Another Ian’s fault… He got me working the pages at Red Power:


  97. another ian says:


    Can I claim that “I dun good”?

    The title there is a bit pointed as several earlier joke threads were more robust and got “poofed” as the term used there has it

  98. AC Osborn says:

    E.M.Smith says: 26 June 2021 at 7:09 pm and everybody else.
    Iceagenow has a post up for posters to share their remembrances of Robert.

  99. jim2 says:

    There is another outbreak of reports about the “unapproved” SQL Server software on Dominion voting systems. It is well known that this is a part of the system. I’m not saying Dominion’s software is Kosher, but this to me looks like a dog whistle aimed at conservatives or maybe just a bout of mass hysteria.


  100. Paul, Somerset says:

    E.M.Smith: “Something is up, I just don’t know exactly what.”
    I found this a good articulation of why it’s logically correct to be concerned on that basis alone:

    “Almost everything we have been told about this virus and the response to it has been a lie. Not a mistake, not an accident, not a misunderstanding. Dr Mike Yeadon, one of the few heroes of the moment, lists these falsehoods as follows:

    That the virus is novel, so there is no immunity to it.
    That the virus is very much more lethal than anything else we’ve encountered.
    That there are no treatments.
    That the PCR is a reliable test of clinically important infection.
    That the virus can be spread by infected people without symptoms.
    That masks protect against transmission.
    That Lockdowns slow transmission through the community.
    That variants formed during virus replication are more dangerous and some will escape immunity.
    That it’s uncertain if you can be infected twice.
    That the vaccines are safe and effective.
    Each of these points is, he says, provably untrue. Yet despite this, even if most people were offered irrefutable evidence that they are untrue, they still cannot bring themselves to come to any other conclusion than to question the official narrative is a ‘Conspiracy Theory’.

    Part of the reason for this reluctance is that people demand to know every jot and tittle about how such an audacious plan might work. This is a strange way of thinking. If you knew with certainty that Smith lies repeatedly, you would not need to understand his motives and aims to know that he must have motives and aims. And so it is with what is going on right now. It is enough to ask whether Dr Yeadon’s assertions hold or not, and if they do, it matters not one whit whether we understand everything. We know enough to see that something’s up, and that it cannot bode well.”


  101. AC Osborn says:

    Re my post here AC Osborn says: 24 June 2021 at 5:47 pm on the UK Delta/Indian Variant.
    New figures out and it is getting worse, Double vaccinated are now 8 time more likely to die if they get bad enough to be hospitalised, it was 6 times.
    It is now 20 with one shot, 50 with 2 shots and 44 with no shots.
    So vaccinated 70, unvaccinated 44.

  102. E.M.Smith says:

    Exciting but not fun, and perhaps going to cost me $57…

    This morning, slinging on my backpack, an attached pouch on a bit of straw swung wide and hit the 16 ounce coffee cup that was till about 1/2 full. This went sideways and sent coffee over the Ordoid XU4, attached disk, et. al. Along with the other stuff near it.

    Needless to say some amount of panic-y clean up on isle 7 followed along with hitting the power off button.

    Long story short, I’m now posting this from the XU4, so it still works to some extent. The hard disk has been tested on the N2 and is fine. However, the 2 x USB 2.0 ports appear to be dead. Neither the disk nor a USB Stick works in them.

    I’d done a quick rinse in cold water and let it dry for a half dozen hours, so I don’t think it is a residual damp thing. They were directly facing the flood of coffee (one with the disk plugged in), so I think that it likely had a fluid short under power and blew out some bit of the USB ports support electronics.

    It still has 1 x USB 1.0 port, so I can use it with disk, just not as it was before.

    So some chunk of the rest of the day will be moving my “persona” (on the disk) onto some other hardware as my “Daily Driver” while this guy goes off to “marginal use” land and I decide if I want to try to fix it, delegate it to minor non-disk compute roles, or just buy a new one. We’ll see…

    At any rate, I’m likely going to be low on postings for a few hours / rest of say.

  103. E.M.Smith says:


    “There is another outbreak of reports about the “unapproved” SQL Server software on Dominion voting systems. It is well known that this is a part of the system. ”

    We went over this. It is NOT “well know” to be an OK part of the system. SQL SERVER is known, but the SQL management software that lets you make changes to the database while leaving no logs is NOT supposed to be on it. That detail matters. One does controlled auditable changes. The other the the Admin Bypass that lets a random do anything they want, no log of changes.

  104. jim2 says:

    EMS – at least two states have looked at it and SQL Server was included in the software. I’ve provided the links. It’s not a big secret. As I noted before, I have designed and administered SQL Sever databases. I can assure you that SQL Server Management Studio alone will not allow anyone to change anything, data or DB objects, without proper permissions as set by the DB owner or an admin delegated by the owner.

    I haven’t seen any indications that there are no logs. Typically one will find SQL Server logs on SQL Server, but also Windows event logs on the Windows server which hosts SQL Server.

  105. tom0mason says:

    Are US cattle and beef farmers about to go the same way as pig and poultry farmer before them? This guy thinks so …

  106. E.M.Smith says:


    The prior report stated that to launch the Server Management Studio only required user level permissions. This was set up to allow anyone on the box to do it, the permissions were set loose.

    Yes, normal DB access will cause logs. What was stated was that any user, due to crappy permissions settings, could use the Server Management Studio and change the database while not leaving logs. Exactly which logs may be in the weeds of the report somewhere, but when the forensics guys say it matters, I’m willing to accept that it matters.

  107. E.M.Smith says:


    From the link you provided:

    The review was conducted by Wake Technology Services, Inc. (‘Wake TSI’), whose report detailed the presence of Microsoft SQL Server Data Tools (‘SSDT’),­ on the Dominion Election Management System (‘EMS’) server.

    From page 25 of Wake TSI’s report:

    …Dominion has installed the Microsoft SQL Server Data Tools (SSDT) on the server. This software is not part of the EAC (Election Assistance Commission) certified configuration and makes the system certification invalid”

    For context, the voting system (in this case Dominion):

    there is “no valid reason” for the software to be installed on the system and that the presence “allows any user with access to change and manipulate the EMS databases without logging [recording] to the Database, EMS, or [operating system] logfiles.”

    NOT simple SQL Server. SQL Server DATA TOOLS.

    Now I have not used them and I am not intimately familiar with them, but I was a DBA in a prior few decades on several different systems. In all of them there were Admin Tools that I could use to bypass all the regular user interface and software interface and just “Diddle the data”. “Data Tools” from a quick look appears to be such a facility.

    Yes, I needed permissions set to do it. The assertion made in the article is that permissions were set that way.

    Tool Description
    bcp The bulk copy program utility (bcp) bulk copies data between an instance of Microsoft SQL Server and a data file in a user-specified format.
    mssql-scripter (preview) mssql-scripter is a multi-platform command-line experience for scripting SQL Server databases.

    sqlcmd sqlcmd utility lets you enter Transact-SQL statements, system procedures, and script files at the command prompt.

    SQL Server PowerShell SQL Server PowerShell provides cmdlets for working with SQL.

    Migration and other tools
    These tools are used to migrate, configure, and provide other features for SQL databases.

    Tool Description
    Configuration Manager Use SQL Server Configuration Manager to configure SQL Server services and configure network connectivity.

    Database Experimentation Assistant Use Database Experimentation Assistant to evaluate a targeted version of SQL for a given workload.
    Distributed Replay Use the Distributed Replay feature to help you assess the impact of future SQL Server upgrades. Also use Distributed Replay to help assess the impact of hardware and operating system upgrades, and SQL Server tuning.

    So with that kit installed, and persmissions set so anyone can use it on the database, looks like a gaping hole to me. AND the forensics guys with hands on think so too.

  108. jim2 says:

    Yes, EM. SSDT is a later version of SSMS. And yes, any user can START it, that is OPEN it. That does not mean, once they have it open, that they can even log into a server. It’s not connected to a server when it first opens. If the user can even log on to a server, the user then must log on to a database on the server. To do that, the user has to have permissions to log on to a database. If the user can log on to the database, the user must have permissions to read data from a table or view, or must have permissions to carry out other activities. There are multiple layers of permissions needed that have nothing to do with opening SSMS or SSDT.

    I got a couple of SQL Server certs decades ago and have worked with it ever since – been there, done that, and have multiple T-Shirts.

  109. Ossqss says:

    This caught my attention when I perused it via drilling for data. Makes sense, no? :-)

  110. jim2 says:

    Ossqss – There’s a gold nugget of truth in that one.

  111. E.M.Smith says:


    Which part of “The guys looking at the box said permissions were wide open” was unclear?

    I don’t care what either of us think about it. The guys with fingers on keyboard and eyes on screen said anyone can change the DB due to permissions wide open. You are arguing permission are wide shut. Think about it.

  112. jim2 says:

    Oh, I see. They are saying it bypasses the EMS logs, not SQL Server logs.

  113. jim2 says:

    SSMS isn’t required to manipulate SQL Server directly. SQL Server drivers are commonly used to log on to SQL Server and databases. The drivers are incorporated into programs and would only need a SQL Server user or Windows authenticated user to manipulate the data. The article said any user with ADMIN privs. A user like that would be able to run a custom made program to automate vote changes if they desired. At any rate, I’m certainly not saying Dominion software should be used. I’m for paper ballots myself.

  114. E.M.Smith says:

    Update On My Computer Status:

    Well, things have gone from bad to worse as they dried out. It looks like the TV / Monitor may “have issues” too. (Some coffee drained from the bottom of it when tilted…) as now it gets strange purple mottling on many inputs. So TV or the cable or? Actual TV input looks OK, but HDMI input is off.

    So now I’m back in the office on the little screen. An “Insignia” brand that has it’s own quirks. One I was just reminded of is that it often doesn’t wake up and smell the input on computer boot. One gets to swap to TV input, then back to PC, then is sees it has something to display.

    That likely had me cycle through a couple of SBCs before I remembered it. (It doesn’t do it on all systems, just some).

    So I’m in the wonderful mode of trying to figure out which parts are broken, which work, and which have quirks (and perhaps which only work with certain others due to spec alignment issues….)

    So, for this particular moment, I’m back on the Odroid N2 that was set aside months ago due to a system update that installed a version of SystemD that felt it was in charge of home directories and 1/2 ignored the /etc/passwd file entries (that put me into that crazy 1/2 home as passwd said 1/2 home where SystemD(emented) thought it ought to be. Resulting in an “Am I being hacked?” response.)

    But at least now I can post again.

    I’ll not list the litany of things that didn’t quite play well together… Including that one of my DNS servers has going belly up too (unrelated to the coffee catastrophe. The uSD card looks to be flaking out after several years of use).

    I was almost forced to use a PC ;-) Really, I have a Compaq Evo with Devuan on it and was just about to fire it up… but this one worked. (after doing the “change input and back” dance).

    So now I can go back and start proving out what works, what doesn’t, and what “has quirks”.

    FWIW, I’ve come to really hate the Insignia brand. The Toshiba that got coffeed was far better visually (this one has eye strain issues from crappy LED light mix) and the Toshiba didn’t have the failure to display on boot problem of the Insignia.

    Oh Well. This is what I have for now.

    I’ll be spending many of the next hours trying to cobble together something I want to actually use… and putting “broken bits” in the broken bits pile. Plus, if further testing says Toshiba USB input flaky, doing disassembly and inspection / cleaning on the guts of it to see if it is recoverable or recyclable.

    So for all the joke about spraying coffee on your monitor: Don’t do it… it just isn’t good.

    Now that I’m once again able to make this monitor see the computer (after re-re-discovery of the “quirk”…) I’m going to see if I can get the Odroid UX4 talking to it and get back to an environment I like. It ought to work, and I can still have my disks on it via the USB 2.0 port / USB external hub. I.e. Back To Normal other than a bit slower disks and a crappy monitor…

  115. E.M.Smith says:

    Well that’s a relief!

    Back at the Toshiba… I decided to try debugging it. TV and Cable are the two parts. Swapped for known good cable, works fine.

    OK, end of cable that was inundated with coffee is likely what was causing weird color effects and repeated size changes. I’d thought that the way the machine was laid out coffee on the screen ought to have drained down the bezel and out the bottom, not reaching the electronics higher up behind the screen…

    So $3 cable not $200 TV. Nice.

    I’ve rinsed the end of the cable in running water and then gave it a 91% isopropanol drying rinse, and in a few hours solar drying I’ll see if that recovered it, or am I buying a new cable…

    The XU4 worked sort of, but tosses a SWAP error. (Swap is on the uSD card ATM.) It will take some more work to figure out if it’s toast. I’m going to similarly rinse / clean the uSD card on it, on the supposition that coffee getting into a cable end / socket might also get into a uSD card / socket. I rinsed the whole board as soon as I had most of the coffee soaked up, but didn’t remove / clean the uSD card (thinking that being in the socket would keep stuff out… but maybe not.)

    So, to summarize:

    As of now, I’ve proven Keboard / trackpad / dongle all work. (Wireless Logitech so only the dongle was exposed. Did not require cleaning (was on the far side of the computer from the coffee onslaught anyway.. and keyboard was not involved) but dongle outside was wiped off. I’ve got the TV working fine (so far… one hopes a bit of dried coffee in the bottom of the bezel is not an issue…). The HDMI cable is shown problematic (but may be recoverable with cleaning / drying). Disk is fine (also plugged into USB ports on the back side away from direction of coffee flow…) but was rinsed off / dried anyway.

    So far, only casualty other than the HDMI cable “maybe” is the XU4 itself. USB 3.0 flaky / dead and swap error. Hopefully more complete cleaning will at least recover it to where it can run with the 2.0 port and not toss swap errors. If not, well, it’s a $56 cup of coffee….

    I’m posting this from a R.Pi Model 3 on the Toshiba TV. So some clean up / reorganize cables and such I can likely have this station working well enough for comfortable postings of new stuff later today.

  116. Ossqss says:

    Dang, I and I thought gas was expensive in California @EM. Coffee can be really expensive there :-)

  117. The True Nolan says:

    @Ossqss: Regarding the “history written by the winners” idea, I am reminded of a short verse by Elizabethan writer John Harington:

    Treason doth never prosper, what’s the reason?
    For if it prosper, none dare call it Treason.

  118. E.M.Smith says:


    Well, the SystemD ridden Odroid N2 is making my blood pressure rise again.

    I’ve got it working and back on the Toshiba TV / Monitor (pending getting the XU4 working again / replaced) and have run into yet more grief.

    Doing “all the usual” to kill off IPv6 has failed. It’s now built in to the kernel and near as I can tell, not possible to kill it. Even using their “Advanced Network Configuration” thingy under “settings” didn’t do it. Also, it looks like /etc/rc.local is being ignored, or failing.

    I noticed that my “fix” of /dev/zramX as swap was not happening. Yet a ‘fixswap’ script works fine:

    root@OdroidN2:/# bcat fixswap
    mkswap /dev/zram1
    mkswap /dev/zram2
    mkswap /dev/zram3
    mkswap /dev/zram4
    mkswap /dev/zram5
    mkswap /dev/zram6
    swapon -s
    swapon -a
    swapon -s

    Yes, I know, ought to fix it in boot. But I had done that with rc.local… (I know, I know, I ought to have fixed it in whatever way SystemD insists things be done, not think on my own and just have the OS do what I want at boot time).

    Ok, bottom line:

    From this day forward, if the hardware does not run Devuan (or other SystemD free OS that I like) I’m not buying it.

    I’m also settled that I’m going to do the clean up on the XU4 and then, working or not, order another one. It works. It runs Devuan (after a bit of work that is now done…). Being v7 cores it is memory efficient. It is nicely fast.

    Maybe tomorrow will be better…

    (FWIW, one of my R.Pi M3 boards is tossing file system errors on the / partition. I’m starting to wonder if Cosmic Rays and Solar Flares are hard on uSD chips…)

  119. E.M.Smith says:

    OK, fixed those two…

    Looks like rc.local was dying as I’d done a “chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf” to stop other stuff from molesting my name resolver choices. That was tossing a lethal error in /etc/rc.local as it was set to crowbar in the desired result at boot time. OK, added a “chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf” before that step and “chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf” after. Now it gets on down to where it fixed zram swap.

    After that reboot the fix of IPv6 looks to be back too. No idea why at all on that one. I did add an option to sysctl.d that could have done it, but it would not do it longhand with sysctl -p pointed at the file. Who knows. SystemD makes lots of things that ought to “just work” not work, and a bunch of things you don’t want required and hard to kill.

    Seems every update has a new horror you must find a way to undo. (Still no good way to get it to stop molesting home directories and just let /etc/passwd be the single source of authority as it ought to be.)

    Oh Well. Hopefully this is just a temporary workstation as I get the other Devuan systems proven up.

  120. E.M.Smith says:


    Just wait ’till you see the cost of a beer (when knocked over into the air intake of your engine…)…


  121. another ian says:

    From more digging

    “Ten years ago China was worried about race based genetic bioweapons — Hello Biotech Cold War?”


  122. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh Dear:

    “Right Wing Watch” who harassed right wing folks got banned on EwTube:


  123. another ian says:

    “The “free world” barely pretends to favor free speech these days. The triggered interns who infest the big publishing houses openly demand their employers pulp the latest manuscripts from J K Rowling and Jordan Peterson. The totalitarian wankers of the British police sit around the station all day monitoring Twitter for transphobic quips, which is far more congenial labor than getting off their flabby arses and catching criminals. The woke billionaires of social media boast openly of their success at “fortifying” the US election by memory-holing unhelpful content.”

    More at


    Via SDA

  124. another ian says:

    Via SDA

  125. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, I’m posting this from my usual account on the Odroid XU4.

    I hosed down the various sockets with a squirt from a 91% iso-propanol bottle, then dried it off more or less with paper towels. Including a bit of polish of the uSD card with an iso-propanol damp paper towel. Shook the whole thing off to get what I could out of sockets and spigots, then set it on top of the black Webber BBQ in the sun to warm / dry.

    Seems to have worked.

    There are still a few minor issues that I think are the result of a hard crash under coffee flood mucking with some files. It took a few rounds for the USB Disk to be accepted and stop asking for “enter passwd for maintenance or Ctl-D to continue”. Just continuing and shutting down didn’t seen to fix it, but an fsck said it was fine. Now it boots without halt.

    The 4 zRAM swap partitions occasionally have one fail to build claiming it needs more than 40 (something KB?) to mkswap on it… I’m not sure it worked all that well before either… but OK, that’s an interesting “for later” thing. (I have no idea why 3 out of 4 would be fine and sometimes 4 out of 4, but one sometimes is a runt apparently).

    All in all, not that bad a result. I’m impressed that you can isopropanol bathe the XU4 and it doesn’t seem to care ;-) !!

    With that, I’m declaring the “Recovery & Restoration” essentially done and any future “quirks” as just normal maintenance issues. I really didn’t think the 2 x USB 3.0 ports were going to work, but they do.

    I think I’m going to take a break from tech stuff for a while and look for a reward in the ‘fridge ;-)

  126. jim2 says:

    EMS – I worked in computer repair for a while. 91 or 100% isopropyl alcohol is what we used as a final rinse to clean up boards or rinse off flux left over from soldering. The boards love it apparently.

  127. E.M.Smith says:


    Yeah, I’ve used it before for a fairly long time. I know that it’s supposed to be OK & good and all… but it just seems wrong ;-) I’d expect it to dissolve something important or corrode something I don’t want corroded, but it seems like it just strips off finger oils and dirt then the residue evaporates in no time. IIRC at 91% it takes all the water with it when it evaporates as you can’t distill stronger than that. Azeotropes and all… 70% leaves dampness.

    I used 91% as a final rinse when developing my own films too. Some cheap brands left a faint dusty deposit. The good stuff was pure and perfect. Now I think they put bittering agents in it for retail sales so who knows.

    In other news:


    Black-clad men busting windows, pushing people inside on 1-6 were FBI informants?
    By M. Dowling -June 28, 20215

    Bobby Powell, who hosts the “The Truth Is Viral” podcast, presented a new video that shows rioters all in black breaking windows and defacing the Capitol on January 6th. This took place after DC police were ordered to leave.

    During an interview with OANN, Powell suggested that the two men in black who busted out windows and reportedly attempted to push protesters inside may have been FBI informants.

    A number of people at the rally, some who committed the most egregious acts are believed to be agents or informants based on a reading of court documents.

    He witnessed the incident as he was on the east side of the building on Jan. 6.

    “Two men I saw attacking the building, breaking windows, and even pushing people inside have not been arrested. And they are not on the list of suspects being sought by the FBI,” he opined. “I provided the FBI with 29 minutes of high-definition footage, 1080p, more than five months ago. Neither one of these men has been arrested.”
    Whether the police were ordered to leave or not, they did leave.

    Powell told OANN, “Now I spoke with agents from the FBI, the JTTF, the Secret Service, and NCIS on Jan. 15, provided them each with a copy of the footage I recorded and a narrative of what I saw. To this day, nobody has called me to ask me for an interview. I told them that I would be happy to come in and tell them everything that I know. But the FBI does not want to talk to me. They may after this. Up to this point, they haven’t said a doggone word. They won’t even return my phone calls or emails.”

    Dan, I’ve been a journalist for 36 years. When you address a government official in an official communique, they respond. They might respond with a ‘no comment’ but they respond. The FBI has not said a single word to this. I want to know who gave the order to that squad of eight Capitol Hill police officers to leave that window undefended leaving me to defend it by myself.”

    Gee… I wonder why…

    IMHO, having been “expedited” by a couple of folks to rush up and join the folks going into the building or onto the steps ( I declined) there were folks assigned to try and motivate Trump Supporters to join in to an artificially created “event”. They were just sort of obviously not the same kind of folks at the Trump Speech and looked A Lot like either TLA Junior Agents or members of Antifa (but I repeat myself…)

  128. E.M.Smith says:

    Story and video about 6 Jan event backing up comment above:


    The video from the article, directly on Rumble:

    One of the best I’ve seen for capturing the “set up” nature of the event.

  129. E.M.Smith says:

    While waiting for the Arizona report, this bit from New York.

    “more ballots than voters”…


    More ballots than voters. The elections watchdog issued the following notice to voters, as well as its experience of hostility attempting to get to the bottom of the disparity.

    “We are issuing this preliminary report because, in our opinion, we are experiencing hostility and obstruction from the New York City and the Brooklyn Board of Elections, as well as some coordinators at Early Voting poll sites,” SMART Elections Executive Director Lulu Friesdat wrote in the report.

    “We have discovered discrepancies that raise concerns and deserve further exploration,” the report continued. “These were reported to the coordinators at each poll site and directly to the Board of Elections. The Board of Elections responded by removing our project leader as a poll watcher and changing the information our poll watchers were allowed to view. Now we cannot collect the data necessary for the successful completion of the project.”

    I’m still waiting on a bit of “delivery” on prior claims… so salt applied here, but maybe:


    “I think it’s certainly important for people to understand what happened here, and the more information we can get about that the better” Powell told Brannon House, host of Lindell TV. “It’s particularly important for our state legislators to understand it because they have the power to recall the electors for fraud,” she said.

    Powell explained, “Fraud officiates or disposes of everything—undoes everything that wrongfully happens as a result of that fraud.” The former federal prosecutor appears to be suggesting that the state legislators have the power to undo the election that sent Joe Biden to the White House.

    I can only hope… Unfortunately I’m still waiting on a whole train load of prior “hopes”…

  130. E.M.Smith says:

    Too good to be true. EewTube backpedals furiously on even handed censorship and restores Left Wing Hate Group Account:


    Just Kidding: YouTube Reverses Right Wing Watch’s Ban After Leftists B*tch and Moan About It
    Just Kidding: YouTube Reverses Right Wing Watch’s Ban After Leftists B*tch and Moan About It
    By Jeff Charles | Jun 28, 2021 8:00 PM ET

    Well, that didn’t take long. YouTube, which suspended Right Wing Watch’s channel early on Monday, has already caved in to pressure from the left. The leftist group’s channel has been restored and all is well in the world of whiny Marxists.

  131. E.M.Smith says:

    Air Defense Radar just got screwed:

    Watch US F-18 fighter jets releasing a swarm of Perdix micro-UAV swarm during a Naval Air Systems Command’s demonstration held at China Lake, California. Measured at just six inches, the micro drones are capable of confusing enemy defenses and blocking radar signals. The drones are not pre-programmed synchronized individuals, but a collective organism, sharing one distributed brain for decision-making and adapting to each other like swarms in nature. Consisted of 103 Perdix micro drones, this is the largest-ever test for the cutting-edge swarm technology.

    Not going to be much better for ground based air defense / fire control radars and such:

    The Navy’s new LOCUST (Low-Cost UAV Swarming Technology) launchers fire a swarm of drones that can jam enemy communications, and waste enemy resources by drawing fire. The launchers are capable of tube-launching 31 drones in just 40 seconds. The drones can fly autonomously but can also be controlled manually.

    At just $15,000 a unit, the drones are expendable and can be used in dangerous situations. LOCUS is now in its development and testing phase.

    I’d actually imagined the use of a few small drones deployed from a jet fighter to confuse enemy radar some decade or two ago. But nothing like this. I’d pictured something like a small jet “missile” that could travel at the speed of the jet. With a ‘corner reflector” inside that could make it look as big as a bomber. Then a cage of RAM (Radar Absorbing Material, not the memory ;-) barrier gates around it so it could choose to show up, or disappear, just by opening a gate or door to the reflector.

    Didn’t do anything with the idea for 2 simple reasons:

    1) To play in the military supply arena you must be one of the Major Companies, and I wasn’t.

    2) The law (and practice) lets the government just take any idea with military application and hand it to any one they choose to make it (and take all the profit) and that would not be me.

    Besides, it was a rather obvious idea and I figured plenty of others would have it too.

    What I’d not considers is 6 inch drones by the hundreds so small you can’t really see them being deployed, nor the computer coordination / swarming. Put a 1 lb explosive charge on them and at “near EOL on the battery” have them suicide into the target and that’s hell to deal with.

  132. jim2 says:

    EMS – right. 70% is the azeotropic proportion. It’s cheap to make it cause they just distill it off with water.

    Methanol is very water-like, ethanol not quite so much, IPA is kind of in between water and oil. It makes a good “tying” agent for mixing oil-like and water-like chemicals.

  133. Ossqss says:

    I thought IPA was a type of beer! :-)

  134. rhoda klapp says:

    Yeah, ossqss, but you think Busch Lite is a kind of beer too.

  135. E.M.Smith says:


    Interesting thought… Busch Lite is a purified water drink with a minor percent of alcohol in it… I wonder how it would do as a cleaning agent… It is almost colorless even in bulk and has nearly no dissolved solids or other substances in it (you can’t get zero taste with dissolved solids, after all…)

  136. H.R. says:

    @Rhoda: What; do you think Ossqss actually drinks that stuff?

    Nawww… of course not. When he refinishes furniture, he uses it for paint stripper.

  137. jim2 says:

    Maricopa County announced Monday it would replace all of the voting machines used in the 2020 Republican-led election audit due to concerns the handlers of the equipment were allegedly “not certified” and that the systems could be “compromised.”

    “The voters of Maricopa County can rest assured, the County will never use equipment that could pose a risk to free and fair elections,” the county said in a statement.


  138. E.M.Smith says:

    My local news reader… Didn’t catch it at “4 pilots” and just read right through to the crash…

  139. Steve C says:

    “A purified water drink with a minor percent of alcohol in it”? It’s the wimpy little brother of East European drinking alcohol! (a purified alcohol drink with a minor percent of water in it.)

    The stuff I had was 97% alcohol, but its taste was difficult to assess as it burned its way down …

  140. E.M.Smith says:

    @Steve C:

    I drank Everclear once. ONCE…

    In other news…

    @Election Follies:


    Claim is some 20,000-30,000? something like that fake ballots were identified in one county. The “push” is to “decertify” the election results based on that fraud. Interesting twist?

    While parking the electoral college votes doesn’t show the Trump Win (pending whole State audit) it DOES put in question their Senate seat that ought to belong to a very conservative guy. Flipping the balance of power in the Senate. Doesn’t matter if he is replaced with a conservative or just removed from the Senate pending further review of the whole election; Senate drops from 50:50 with VP tie breaker to 49:50 and no tie breaker.

    As I’ve run out of “Hopium”, I’ll just wait and see… But it would be nice if something happened.

  141. Ossqss says:

    Ha! The best thing about Busch Light is nobody will drink it but me. You have no idea how much money that saves me in the long run in my neighborhood, let alone a case is $13.98 :-)

  142. E.M.Smith says:


    So at $14 / case of 24… or about $1.16 per real beer equivalent content. That’s reasonable. ;-)

  143. jim2 says:

    Biden is mulling masks again due to variant D. (At least someone there is mulling it.) But if you look at the variants in the US, variant A is dominant.


  144. E.M.Smith says:


    They can mull masks all they want. In the USA (and more so elsewhere in the world) the pandemic is over and folks are done with it. Only places still riding this donkey are a few Democrat Damaged Urban Centers.

    Huge acreage of States have just said “We’re done” and gone back to normal life.

    Heck, even here in Kalifornia, in the center of the outbreak zone, China Sister City Land of Silly Con Valley: Stores have signs up “If vaccinated, no mask is OK” and NOBODY is checking anyone.

    I’m not bothering with the mask anymore, other than at work (Medical office so BL-2 rules).

    If you look at World-O-Meter, many States have single digit or barely double digit new cases. Only 2 barely break 1000 (California , Florida) and two are in the 900s (Texas, Louisiana). We’re talking over 30 MILLION people in California, so that’s about 1 in 30,000 odds. I think I’m more likely to have a car accident on the way to the covid clinic for a jab…

  145. Ossqss says:

    One should consider the case reporting is not reporting new cases exclusively. Many, if not most, are free retests of the initially infected, even if with crappy PCR tests. It has been that way for some time. The real delineating factor is no consideration, at all, for those who actually had the virus being immune in order to push the experiment to more arms. The more I read, the scarier it becomes. Look at what is happening in the UK and Australia, again. Just sayin

  146. E.M.Smith says:

    Looking at Texas is instructive.

    Of all their counties, about 254 of them!, only 3 had new deaths yesterday. A total of 4 people.

    Hidalgo 2, Bexar 1, Hays 1.

    I would wager more people died of car accidents OR bar fights OR bad food in Texas…

    Of “new cases”, only 2 counties are in the 3 digit range:

    Hidalgo 202
    Dallas 133

    There are 13 counties with double digit new cases (many in the low double digits…)

    40 counties have single digit new cases ( 18 of which had ONE case, 11 had 2 or 3 cases, so 3/4 of the counties with single digits are in VERY low single digits).

    That’s 55 counties, leaving 199 of them with ZERO new cases.

    Does anyone really think all those folks are going to put up with this lockdown / masks / misery and stupidity for NO CASES?

    Similar story in California. The rural counties have nothing much happening. There are 58 Counties in California. 4 of them had new deaths yesterday.

    Los Angels 3
    Sacramento 2
    Kern 1
    Stanislaus 1

    Total of 7 people. I’d bet more died in L.A. alone from drug overdoses and drug accidents. Heck, that many die from jaywalking accidents…

    19 Counties had zero new cases and 15 more were in single digits ( 9 of THEM were 3 or less and the most was a single county with 7 – so no 8s or 9s)

    Basically this thing is OVER. In wide open States or in hard lockdown States. It’s done. We’re down to dribs and drabs and “clean up committee” numbers.

  147. E.M.Smith says:


    I know, I could “go fish” myself and find out, but clearly you have some idea “what is happening in the UK and Australia,”, so how about a pointer / story?

    (I’ve been doing computer recovery and “other stuff” and not had a lot of “Me Time” for international news…)

  148. Ossqss says:

    @EM, I beg to differ, it is quantity, not quality. Let alone it is still 4.1% and 95 calories with 3.2 carbs. In other words, healthy as compared to a single 12oz coke that has 42 carbs! So, 13 beers equal one soda! >:-)

  149. Ossqss says:

    Sidney, locked down. UK going that way over the delta variant. I don’t have the links, but some were from CNN ( I know) and ZH.

  150. YMMV says:

    “Gallup poll: 57% of Republicans say the pandemic is over. Only 4% of Democrats agree”

    Just thought I would toss that one in. Obviously, anyone in UK or Oz would have a different take.
    UK does not have enough of the young vaccinated. Oz doesn’t have enough vaccinated period.
    UK has lots of deltas since they took so long to stop flights from India.
    Oz has not had many cases, but delta is four times as contagious as the original Wu-hoo flu. They might have been better to get it over with before. Or not.
    Neither country has accepted IVM. UK has supporters for it. Oz had one doctor who was pushing for it. In both, now would be a good time to allow it. Better late than never.

    BTW, UK cases are increasing, but so far deaths are staying down. Perhaps because the vulnerable have already been vaccinated. After so long, I think we are getting the picture that Covid was picking off the vulnerable all along.

    I think in some regions, it is all over. In other regions, it may not be over for a long time.

  151. YMMV says:

    @another ian, yes the backstory about thalidomide is interesting. Hubris, where have I heard that before?

    In the course of my research, I spoke to many people who had been hurt by him in some way.

    They all described him as charming, as a likeable rogue, as charismatic and convincing — and always certain of the rightness of his position.

    Think of all the news reports where they ask the neighbors of a mass killer about the killer and they usually say he was such a sweet kid, they couldn’t imagine him doing that.

  152. YMMV says:

    Dr. John (I’ve watched so many of Dr. Campbell’s videos now that I use his first name) has a conversation with a guy in Perth about the Covid situation there.

    Their hospitals are overflowing already, without Covid, so if they do get Covid outbreaks they couldn’t cope. On the other hand, regarding Covid, hospitals are where you go to die, not where you go to get cured. Assuming hospitals are the same there, hospitals are where you lose control of your own life (and then lose your life). Because some administrator heard a rumor that IVM is not safe.

  153. The True Nolan says:

    @YMMV “Oz has not had many cases, but delta is four times as contagious as the original Wu-hoo flu.”

    I am not disputing that there is a possibility that it is correct — but how on earth do we know? Did we ever get accurate numbers for last year? The PCR tests were worse than useless, stunningly unreliable, but has there been any attempt to replace the official numbers with something better? Are the numbers on Delta any more reliable? We know that many non-COVID cases have been reported as COVID. How many?

    One aspect of human psychology is that even when we KNOW we have been lied to, if the lie comes from an official and unwavering source, most people will eventually tend to speak and act as if it is true after all.

    It seems to me that ANY definite statement on relative morbidity, contagion or spread is ALL guesswork. It is (as Gurdjieff would say) “poring from the empty into the void”.

  154. E.M.Smith says:


    One aspect of human psychology is that even when we KNOW we have been lied to, if the lie comes from an official and unwavering source, most people will eventually tend to speak and act as if it is true after all.

    I guess I’m not quite fully human then…

    I keep a “veracity tag” on every information bit and source. It isn’t perfect ( I have misses and sometimes forget a bit) but things get categorized into “unknown”, “lies”, “unlikely”, “maybe”, … , “likely”, “valid”, “proven”… So do sources.

    Some source lies once, I’ll move them from wherever they were before (usually starting at “maybe” or “likely” for an “authoritative” source) one to the left. By the second lie they are either at “Unlikely” or “lies”. (By the third they are in “Damn Lies and Scoundrels – entirely untrustworthy GEBs”). Faucci has lied at least 3 times… So has the DNC, Biden, Harris, The Clintons (and most anyone attached to them), the entire group involved in the Faux-Impeachment Simefest. Oh, and the FBI Leadership from several “leaders” along with the DOJ “leadership” and so many State DOJ / DAs as to be a horror show. And all the folks running Election Boards in Democrat Controlled cities and counties. (No, I don’t know all their names. At some point, ill defined, the Pattern Recognizer kicks in and tags a “category” – so Democrat DA{ tag: Almost certainly lying for political gain; high bias; probable criminal level}.)

    Similar tags as for Dem DAs are applied, now, to CNN, pMSNBC, NYT, etc. etc. They shot their wad on the Russia Russia Russia Hoax and more.

    At this point, I’d not leave my sack lunch unattended near any of them… BELIEVE anything they say? They can tell me the Sun is up at high noon, and I’m going to check for myself.

    Strange thing is, about a decade back, CNN, pMSNBC, etc. were just “News from the other side POV”. I thought they were wrong a lot, but not evil. That all changed when they went “all in” on TDS and Lies For Effect. Similarly Suckerberg, Faceplant, Twatter, Gargoyle, etc. etc.

  155. The True Nolan says:

    @E.M. “I guess I’m not quite fully human then…”

    No, no you’re not. Me neither. More accurately, neither of us (and most of your regular visitors) are not “neurotypical”. (And thank you for introducing that word to me.) The average person? The average person believes that Saddam Hussein helped the Taliban carry out 9-11. Actually, I exaggerate. The AVERAGE person just thinks that “the Muslims” did it. The average human cannot do long division or add two fractions. The average American thinks John Glenn was the first human into space, or else they have no idea at all. The average American thinks we fought the Germans and the Russians in World War Two. A sadly huge number never read a single book as an adult. None of that makes them bad people, in exactly the same way that a child is not bad just because he does not know his alphabet. It does not make them bad, but it does make them manipulable, and that means they can be made into a weapon without even realizing it.

    Of course there is the top 1% of the cognitive elite, and that would be the odd group of people such as yourself. But you already know that. There is a reason why I said “MOST people will eventually tend to speak and act as if it is true after all” and not “ALL” people.

    (Just a guess — but “top 1%” does not work for you. More likely “top 1% of 1%”. Maybe one more 1% of that, but I think that is pushing it.)

  156. E.M.Smith says:


    On the Kuder Aptitude tests my lowest score was 86 th percentile… on “clerical”… (the mind tended to wander…). On most of the rest of the test categories were 99.9 percentile. IOW, off their scale. I think I had one 98 percentile, then that “clerical”…

    So about 0.1%, not 1% of 1%. Unless it is in the error bars… ;-)

    I must confess that working in Silicon Valley, you get used to the “peer group” around you being in the 1% range. Folks with good hard degrees from name universities. MIT, Stanford, etc. all about. Masters & Ph.D. sometimes.

    OTOH, I’ve met more folks with common sense clue about the world fixing engines and working farms… I like to think I got the best mix of both sides of that particular divide… I’d also prefer to hang out with farmers and race car mechanics and “folks 4 wheeling to fishing” than with Apple or Google Management… Fewer snakes to deal with and a lot less Ego Intoxication in the air…

  157. YMMV says:

    @The True Nolan, re: “delta is four times as contagious as the original Wu-hoo flu.”

    “I am not disputing that there is a possibility that it is correct — but how on earth do we know?”

    Excellent question, and one that should be asked much more often. In good science, every claim should have a footnote referencing its source, so that it can be checked as an accurate quotation and it can be checked for validity. And even in non-scientific things, the provenance of a thing must be clear.

    For this particular question, I am repeating a statement by Dr. John Campbell. He is in the UK and very interested in the delta variant and is always up on the latest studies. I’ve heard it from enough reliable sources that I don’t doubt that it is true, or rather close enough for me, given that I don’t particularly care whether it is or not. The delta difference seems to be that it is faster acting. It starts doing its cloning thing earlier. That and maybe how it spreads. It’s a concern, but not much of a worry if you have your vaccines or your IVM. The delta-flu is just another step toward the virus becoming entrenched/endemic but milder.

    The UK has a Zoe app to monitor Covid which is providing a lot of data.

  158. another ian says:


    For a follower to that


    “FDA Reverses Itself: Rejects Covid Antibody Test Results; Insanity Reigns”


    If true a TLA starting with “W” seems appropriate

  159. jim2 says:

    Maybe we should all take a dive into critical race theory and see what’s up with that one. I don’t know much about it.

  160. E.M.Smith says:


    Critical Race Theory Thumbnail:

    ALL Whites are RACIST! Anything to do with them is RACIST! Being on time. Working hard. Having a job. RACIST! Whites are BORN INHERENTLY RACIST!!!! Blacks, Asians and Hispanics can not be RACIST! as they are not white. The world would be a better place if all whites were murdered as they have done nothing but oppress people of color because they are born RACIST!!! But first they need to pay reparations. Lots and Lots of Reparations. They got their money from enslaving Black People and exploiting everyone else, so just take it. Oh, and stealing shit, that’s fine, because anyone who has some shit must have got it via Oppression of POC and are White RACISTS!!! even if they are Korean Store Owners or Successful Blacks or other Asians. Oh, and Jews are worse ’cause they are both White RACISTS!!! and Jews.

  161. jim2 says:

    OK, EMS, you saved me some time there :) In other news, there are some hopeful cracks forming in the materialized leftist world …

    Lengthy planning and approval procedures stand in the way of the expansion of wind energy. There is too little designated space for possible locations and too many lawsuits against projects. The resistance to the construction of wind turbines is enormous in many places. Countless nature conservationist groups and citizens’ groups see the landscape impaired, health threatened or rare birds in danger and are fighting with all possible means against new wind turbines. Frequently, political leaders of municipalities and states are against easing the elimination of wind power locations.

    To make matters worse for the future of wind energy is the fact that many wind farms are threatened by shutdown. The German Renewable Energy Act which has been in force since 2000 guarantees wind turbine operators secure subsidies for twenty years. For thousands of wind projects this deadline will expire in the next few years. Without subsidies they are no longer profitable. By 2025, there is a risk of 15,000 MW of wind projects being lost which corresponds to over a quarter of Germany’s onshore wind power.


  162. jim2 says:

    And now … micro-nukes …

    Downblended to a uranium enrichment of less than 20%, and still owned by the Department of Energy (DOE), the HALEU will stay at INL’s site in Idaho Falls, Idaho, where Oklo last year received a site use permit to build its Aurora plant. The site use permit, which will be effective for the lifetime of the plant, was the first, and still the only, such permit issued for a non-light-water nuclear reactor in the U.S.

    According to INL, while finalization of the opportunity announced on Wednesday still depends on striking a cooperative agreement with Oklo on the use of the material for the micro-reactor demonstration, the selection is a big step that markedly furthers its goal to accelerate deployment of commercially viable micro-reactors. Several micro-reactors with capacities below 10 MW (by comparison, small modular reactor [SMR] capacities hover between 60 MW and 300 MW) are under development worldwide; one of the biggest hurdles to quick deployment relates to fuel supply.


  163. The True Nolan says:

    @E.M. “So about 0.1%, not 1% of 1%. Unless it is in the error bars… ;-)”

    As you know, all those cognitive tests get wonky near the top (and the bottom as well), and the error bars do indeed hide a multitude of sins. Probably not any way to settle the question, but if I had to bet, I think that 1% of 1% is definitely closer than a mere 0.1%.

    That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!

  164. H.R. says:

    We’re an odd bunch, ain’t we? A smidge of a bubble off plumb.

    And it’s all good. 😊

  165. jim2 says:

    How funny is this. The mini-nuke company is using leftard virtue signalling indulgences. Maybe they could try some Voo Doo dolls too.

    Aurora is the product name for a clean energy plant the company developed to power communities with affordable, reliable, clean power
    The Aurora is a revolutionary step forward towards providing nearly always-on clean power with no need for refueling for decades
    The Aurora powerhouse integrates solar panels and local art to illustrate the ability of advanced fission to integrate with renewables and for a power plant to integrate with a community


  166. H.R. says:

    H.R.: “We’re an odd bunch, ain’t we?”

    I wrote that after reading the comments about make-up of the people posting here. Went to bed.

    When I got up this morning, I realized that I had never had that thought before. I always thought everyone here was pretty normal, which is why I comment on this blog the most.

    The conversation is wide-ranging and gets into the details when there are details to be gotten into. When I hang out with others, any attempt at getting into detail causes mass eye glazing-over.

    Speaking of wide-ranging, there are not a whole hell of a lot of blogs out there where you can discuss anti-gravity and lamb chops and fishing on the same day.

    So I guess I should I should rephrase that as, “All those other people out there, they’re an odd bunch, ain’t they?”

  167. Simon Derricutt says:

    H.R. – the people who can’t take the eclectic mix of subjects here have probably gone somewhere else where they can beat the one drum they have and get applause.

    Most people I’ve met don’t go as deep and glaze over if I start digging any deeper than skin depth. Jason’s comment was pretty spot-on for normal people. If a lie is repeated often enough it is accepted as being the truth by most. For AGW, I go back to the actual data, and thus see no real problem unless it gets colder or we lose too much CO2 to the standard processes that sequester it, but most people I talk to seem to think the problem is getting too warm, because that’s what’s on the media. Very few people I’ve talked to are themselves racist, but think that everyone else is.

    As you know from the antigravity discussions, I’ve also been examining the physics I was taught was true, and I’m finding faults in some very basic thinking and logic, but it’s very hard to get anyone else to do the same sort of re-examination of what I can best term beliefs. What people learn when young tends to be difficult to dislodge until they can buy that “impossible” thing at the local hardware shop and they have to accept it’s possible.

    A saying from my youth:
    “All the world is queer, dear,
    Except you and me…
    And even thee’s a little queer.”
    Of course, not the modern usage of “queer”….

  168. jim2 says:

    Gateway Pundit has some good reads today. One is about Vernon Jones who is running for AZ gov. His comments about CNN are spot on. (He says CNN stands for “controlling negroes”). We need to send him an invite to join the discussion here :)

    Another is about the SC upholding AZ voting laws concerning out of precinct voting and ballot harvesting.

  169. E.M.Smith says:


    Per “Aurora”: Hey, you run with what you’ve got… and if “Green useless Virtue Signalling” sells the goods, that’s the pitch you run…

    @Simon & H.R.:

    I could never be a “one trick pony” and anything that is interesting gets interest and a bit of a “Dig Here!”. IOW, “Squirrel!”… driving force for me (and my dogs…)

    Sure, call it “eclectic”… sounds better than “scattered and easily distracted” ;-)

    IMHO this all stems from my 5th grade science teacher. He said it was now impossible for anyone to know everything (unlike in the Renaissance Era). I thought that was being a bit silly of him, so set out to know everything possible. In the end, I’ve discovered that you can’t know everything in full detail but you can know about everything to some degree. So does that count?

    For example: I can not design a nuclear power plant to complete detail nor do the documents needed to get it through the required government licencing. BUT… I do know the basic designs, many of the design considerations (thermal limits, neutron hardening, stress cracking, thermalizing neutrons, Xenon poisoning issues, etc.) So I know about nuclear reactors and nuclear reactor design. Were I ever required to get more detail, a big “Dig Here!” can fill in the needed details fairly quickly.

    I picture this as a series of “knowing domains” shaped like the valves in a gas engine. The skinny little base is fully known and reaches down to some fundamental understanding, like basic math through college level that I learned, then the top spreads out over unsupported areas cantilevered off of that base (so I can’t calculate a Hamiltonian but I can understand the idea of the calculation).

    As the tops of these “mushrooms of knowing” touch each other, they form a more complete canopy of understanding of the whole of the world. Even where they have no base all the way to the bottom, they are almost certainly true due to their extension from what is known. (Like Geometry where you derive all of it with proofs from a base set of 3 assumptions; the base of the stem gives an anchor from which the cantilever can be proved up too.)

    Then, when any further depth or detailed proof is needed, it’s easier to send down a new stem under the extended area by back-filling some detail knowing. (So I could spend the time to learn, in detail, the derivation of Hamiltonians and how to calculate them fairly quickly given the physics and math on each side…) But for now I’m OK with just being able to read about them and know that the math “looks right” and the physics is “reasonable” given adjacent understandings.

    Kind of an extreme example, but you get the idea.

    As a side effect of that, when I find an area with zero “canopy” over it, I really enjoy filling in enough of it to “get it”. Or sometimes I just set it aside as “not going to go there, no utility”.

    Take, for example, “Rap Music”: I know essentially nothing about it. My limit is that I’ve heard some of it (usually against my will and I escape as fast as possible) and know “some white guy” was a top Rapper in some year where Rap is considered to be a Black music genre. That is literally all I know about it. I see zero value in learning more and it does not support “near by” knowings in any discernible way either.

    OTOH, “Car Camping”: I knew a fair amount about camping, mostly in a Pick-up Mounted Camper and in Tents. Discovered this whole sub-genre of “Car Camping” with a platform in the back. You’all got to watch me go down that rabbit hole and figuring out good design for my Subaru and Mercedes Wagon. I now have a “stem” of knowing about camping IN a car that extends all the way to base knowings. It has a bit of an umbrella that now supports some ideas about RV camping too. Overall, my “camping knowing” is both broader and more fully supported than before that dive.

    Now do I know everything about, say, Bushcraft Camping? Nope. But I know enough to make an emergency shelter and a fire, and I’ve put the appropriate gear in my cars. (Tarp, space blanket, knife, stove, cordage, fire kit, etc.). I’m NOT going to become a Bushcraft Camper out on a weekend cutting down saplings with my hatchet and building an ersatz shelter with forest litter (unless some unexpected emergency forces me to try…), but I have enough specifics and enough “nearby knowings” that I’m comfortable in thinking I can do “good enough with some non-lethal errors” in an emergency. I’m not going to expand that “mushroom” explicitly. OTOH, I do now know that since I’m always near my car, Car Camping is something I will be practicing and getting “perfect knowledge” of how to do it (by doing it…). I’ve done enough of “stuff like it” (camping with a car & tent and coast to coast sleeping in the car) that the stem reaches the ground ok at narrow points.

    So for me, Camping in general is a hard wide stem of experience and knowings that reaches base starting points. Car Camping is near that stem on the shoulder and is sending down a buttress off the stem to be filled in completely later. Bushcraft Camping is out near the edge of the canopy up top. Not supported by actually doing it, nor detailed study and practice. But I can see how to fill in the missing bits…

    Given that way of seeing the world and knowledge about the world, it is sort of inevitable that things would be “eclectic”… (Just don’t ask me any questions about Ballet, Opera, “Celebrities” of any kind, or Rap and we’ll be fine ;-0

  170. jim2 says:

    Former President Donald Trump’s team has launched a new social media platform, billing it as an alternative to Big Tech sites.

    Named GETTR, the app advertises its mission statement as “fighting cancel culture, promoting common sense, defending free speech, challenging social media monopolies, and creating a true marketplace of ideas,” Politico reported Thursday.

    Trump’s former spokesman, Jason Miller, is leading the platform, described as similar to Twitter, Politico reported.


  171. The True Nolan says:

    @E.M. re “mushrooms of knowing”

    Most polylinguists will tell you that as you learn more and more languages, each successive one becomes easier. I think that is a general principle not just with language, but with MOST subjects, especially with science, math and technology For those of us addicted to thinking, learning new things is rather like chewing gum; I get the most fun out of the first 90% of the flavor. Sure you can keep chewing and chewing and chewing until you have removed 99.9%, but ah, life is short and there are so many other flavors to delve into! And there are some flavors worth avoiding.

    Here is a short video of Edward Teller speaking about John von Neumann. Worth a quick listen:

  172. E.M.Smith says:

    Per that Teller video:

    YES! I call that “Recreational Thinking”. Whenever possible I indulge in Recreational Thinking. Much of this blog is the result of it. Some Idea (Squirrel!) runs past and down the rabbit hole I go chasing that idea… When I’m sitting alone in the car, I don’t turn on music and “zone out”. I pick some idea to worry and groom. Ideas are the toys of my life and must be played with. All the time.

    It is great fun, and I really don’t understand the folks who find thinking a PITA.

    I get absolute pleasure and sometimes joy out of learning a “new trick” or “interesting thing”, and revel in bagging a new skill as much as any hunter bagging a deer or pheasant. Always in the context of a Tidy Mind, with the mushroom forest well supported on a base of proven knowings. Constructing an ever more stable and proven structure, but sometimes learning how to put polka dots or stripes on some of it ;-) After all, making a structure pretty can be as valuable as making it strong.

    What offends me is when I find out some proposed “idea” is in fact just rotten grapes of wrath or the smelly excrement of an untidy (or worse, evil and deceptive) mind and having let even just the smell of it in, a whole area needs a good thorough scrub… Like thinking about CRT. It reeks of fraud and deception. Even the notion of “hate speech” is broken and anathema. “Hate crime” is even worse. There is no reasonable way in which you can have an emotional modifier on “crime” as it is just un-emotive “violation of laws”, nor on speech, as one person’s hate is another persons love. Untidy, and rejected, but the stench keeps drifting about in public discourse… Once you define “hate” as a crime, then there are reasonable grounds for locking up every TDS sufferer, no?… What about the person who “hates” peas? Isn’t that evil and offensive to peas lovers and growers? Just a YUCK kind of cognition that stems from “hate speech” and simply must be rejected.

  173. cdquarles says:

    Ah, the Hamiltonian. A term I’ve not heard since advanced Chemistry :P (yes, I had to deal with them, a bit; and with some of Maxwell’s equations, too).

  174. E.M.Smith says:


    FWIW, I think of most folks as “Silo People”. They learn things in a cylinder from ground to top of competency. They can only expand at the perimeter of their cylinder and with the volume of new stuff they need to add a ‘ring’ being the whole volume of that cylindrical ring (which gets much larger at each increment outward…). So they rapidly limit in what they can know, or know about.

    Universities try to fix this with requirements for electives and “breadth” requirements, which helps some, but for most folks it seems that just entertainment on their way to their cylinder of mastery.

    For me, I find that dreadfully dull and limiting. I can plant a new stem ANYWHERE in a new knowing domain or next to an old one. Then pop up a new competency and reach for the sky / canopy above. The more of them I plant, the easier it becomes to grow them as they are near others…

    So, for example, I had 6 years of Spanish. Started in 5th grade in my “progressive” school district. BUT that put only 2 years in High School. Not enough for U.C., who demanded 3 to dodge the language requirement. Had I ‘tested in’ to Spanish, I’d have been taking Advanced Spanish with native speakers. OK, I then took French instead. In 3 classes (or one elapse year in a normal school year as we were on a quarter system) finished ALL of French Language. (French 4 was reading French literature in French and discussing it / writing about it in French… I decided ‘no’ ;-). Some years later… business trip to Italy. On the flight over, ran the “Getting by in Italian” tape on the flight. Practiced the book after landing in London. On arrival in Italy, had enough to get a Taxi, check into the hotel, go out to dinner, shop. Even later, looked at Interlingua and realized I could mostly already understand it.

    Interlingua literature maintains that (written) Interlingua is comprehensible to the hundreds of millions of people who speak Romance languages, though it is actively spoken by only a few hundred.
    Interlingua recognises that many European languages share common vocabulary – due to the historical prominence of Latin and Greek – and therefore aims to extract and standardize the most widespread words for a concept. To qualify for inclusion in Interlingua, the presence of words must be shown in the primary control languages (English, French, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese) or secondary control languages (German and Russian). However, words from a diverse range of languages are found in Interlingua, including Japanese (geisha and samurai), Arabic (califa), Guugu Yimithirr (gangurru) (Interlingua: kanguru), and Finnish (sauna).

    Speakers of other languages can learn to speak and write Interlingua in a relatively short time, due to simple grammar and regular word formation using a small number of roots and affixes. This is particularly true for speakers with a good knowledge of Romance languages and international scientific vocabulary.

    Research with Swedish students has shown that, after learning Interlingua, they can translate elementary texts from Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish. A 1974 study showed that an Interlingua class could translate a Spanish text that students who had taken 150 hours of Spanish found too difficult to understand. Gopsill has suggested that Interlingua’s freedom from irregularities allowed the students to grasp the mechanisms of Romance languages quickly.

    Basically almost all of it was under the umbrella of French / Spanish / Italian / English that was already formed for me.

    FWIW, while I find spoken Portuguese hard to follow (my hearing interacting with their strange pronunciation rules); on a flight from Florida that originated in Brazil, I found I could mostly read the magazine onboard that was in Portuguese. Written form is under the shared umbrella… Similarly Catalan, Provincial, and a few more. I’ll get some very fine points wrong, but the general story is clear. Between Spanish, French and a bit of Italian, it covers most of the variation between those other languages / dialects; at least for basic communications.

    The mushroom tops have merged… only a few stem bits missing…

  175. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh (best Colombo voice…) Just one more thing…

    I actually took French 1 in the last “quarter” of the year. 6 units in 10 weeks. About 1k to 2k vocabulary items and 3? or so verb tenses. During “Summer Session” I took French 2. Again, 6 units. BUT… they ran TWO summer session sequentially, so everything was double time. IIRC it was a 5 week session, but the last week was “finals”. We did something like another 3k vocabulary words and another 3 or so verb tenses. It was 2 hours of classroom per day AND something like 3 hours of lab per day. Plus a few hours of written homework / day. Basically a full work day all in French. Intense? You bet. I’m still a bit fuzzy on the spelling of those words and some of the finer points of the verb tenses.

    I was working then too. Clerical stuff for a hospital at night with nobody much to talk to. One night, someone comes to the Billing Window and squawks something at me? “Qu’est-ce que c’est? Qu’est-ce qu’ll a dit?” I think… then I realized I was operating in French full time… I had to shift back to English and ask for a repeat…

    French 3 was the following quarter. After summer session, it was MUCH easier paced…

    So, in fact, I had all of the French Verb Tenses and about 6000+ words of vocabulary in 26 classroom weeks spread over about 36 elapsed weeks.

    Yeah, I’ll never do that again either…

  176. cdquarles says:

    Ah, French. I had 4 years in high school (teacher was Basque), 4 in college, too. 6 weeks of Spanish in middle school and 1 year of Russian in college. Add to that my own study of Latin and a bit of Greek. I’ve heard Portuguese spoken, and it seemed to be a cross between old Spanish, old French/Basque and old Italian/Tuscan. If I’d taken time to study it via immersion ;p. I will say that my high school English teachers were rather old fashioned and emphasized the Latin influence on English.

  177. another ian says:


    Portuguese from my brief exposure seemed to be about half French – even uses the “c cedilla”

  178. another ian says:


    A couple of “coffee ones” and an “RV” for you in here


  179. tom0mason says:

    Dear Critical Race Theorist,
    As of the last time I was in hospital I had about 30% of my blood replaced via transfusion, and given that for my blood group about 20% of it come from non-white people, am I now about 10% less racist then before I went into hospital?
    Your in anticipation,
    BM (Blood Matters).

  180. Ossqss says:

    So my power went out this week a couple times. So, I booted up the old Generac 4000 XL to pump the pool after 5 inches of rain a few days ago. It worked well for about 10 minutes. Background, this genny has been around the block for almost 2 decades, and multiple storms, and multiple people using it across the state to compensate. Always used synthetic oil in it.

    So, it became apparent, that Houston We Have a Problem. Thought perhaps it was a gas tank, or feed line anomaly with debris since it quit like not enough fuel. The only crap that could have been in the tank would have had to grow there. I changed the oil, and filter, after a much longer period of time than is prescribed. Remember, oil doesn’t break down, it gets dirty. It ended up being the oil pressure sensor was toast. Disconnected it and it ran fine. New one on the way for 12 bucks, but really not necessary.

    Just thought to share if needed.

  181. p.g.sharrow says:

    @Ossqss; have a 20 year old Generac 5000 that started giving me fits. It would fart and wheeze acting like it was having fuel problems. I cleaned the tank and several times cleaned the carburetor. Then noticed that the Idiot light in the on-off switch was cutting off as the engine farted off and after a while got down on my hands and knees and read the little placard there that said that the machine had a low oil ignition cut off. Strange, the dip stick read nearly full. I filled it a bit overfull and Damn ! It ran fine, If it is about 1/8th inch over full.
    My guess is the dip stick used is not the correct one and at half level is actually low So that the low level switch is cutting off the ignition.
    Bet if you over fill a bit and reconnect that cut off switch your old Generac will run fine…pg.

  182. another ian says:

    Now censored

    Tucker Carlson Tonight 7/1/21 FULL | FOX BREAKING NEWS July 1,21 – YouTube”

  183. jim2 says:

    Tucker Carlson Tonight 7/1/21 can still be found on the internet, but yeah, YouTube sucks.

  184. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – Re: Juneteenth

    Sadly your celebration is incorrect. Juneteenth is when some slaves in Galveston were told they were free. However the Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in rebelling states, not states that had no seceded. Such as Maryland, Delaware, DC and Kentucky. Those were not freed until the requisite number of states passed the 13th amendment which was not until December 6,1865.

    That is why the holiday is so stupid. Democrats still had slaves for almost 6 months after Juneteenth.

  185. Ossqss says:

    @PG, Thanks, but I tried everything to no avail. The pressure switch circuit was staying open as it was seized up, probably from dirty oil and filter not being changed for many years. They only operate at about 8psi, but is not really necessary if you don’t burn a bunch of oil and know your full. It runs perfectly unplugged and the switch will be replaced upon receipt of the new one.

  186. Simon Derricutt says:

    A rather nice video about how to make a wind-powered craft that moves faster than the wind downwind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCsgoLc_fzI . Sounds counter-intuitive, but both explained and experimentally tested. Something for EM to add to the mushroom….

  187. E.M.Smith says:

    @Simon Derricut:

    I was familiar with things like ice sail and other sail driven craft that can exceed the speed of the wind, but they do it at an angle to the wind (basically doing a bit of cross wind). Sailing directly down wind is typically limited to wind speed minus drag losses of the hull.

    So it took me a little while to figure out where the energy was coming from to push the cart faster than the wind directly down wind.

    The prop continues to “throw air backwards” and that air WILL slow down the air of the wind. That energy is what is available to the prop to move the car forward; which then turns the wheels to power the prop fast enough to do its job… Even as the craft exceeds the speed of the wind from behind it. Even if the car is going 2 x wind speed, the prop can throw air backwards faster than that and thus slow down the wind air behind it and extract that force and thus power (over time and distance).

    Nice thought experiment ;-)


    OK… So I guess we need TWO celebrations per year. One on JuneTeenth celebrating the Texas Democrats Slavery defeat, and one on the ratification date of the 13th Amendment when the Democrat Slavery of The North was finally ended… ;-)


    Yeah, word has gone out to “Get Tucker” I think… Too much truth drives the Dims nuts.

    @PG & Ossqss:

    Hmmm… things to keep in mind. FWIW I’d suspect your pressure switch was just getting cranky before I’d think they got the dipstick wrong. Those engines are pretty darned standard. But easy way to check. Go to the hardware store and look at a new one with the same engine. (B&S right?) Then take a look at the dip stick. Apply tape measure if needed…

    The pressure of an couple of inches of oil can’t be very much so any degree of stiffening of the spring / counter pressure device is going to make the sensing depth be off by a fair amount. (Envisioning a rubber disk with electrical contact held outward by a spring; presence of oil compresses spring and makes contact. IF that disk hardens and stiffens, it can become a bit of a spring like force itself and shift set point… just as an example.)

    OTOH, those engines are “splash oiled” so a little higher oil in the sump just means a little better lubrication. The crank and rod journal are already hitting the oil and splashing it about, so it isn’t like you are suddenly introducing un-intended oil splashing and forces on the crankshaft…

  188. Ossqss says:

    @EM, I can’t speak for PG, but my unit has a pressurized lubrication system complete with a traditional oil filter. Hence, the oil pressure switch failure, killed it. This is the little bugger.

  189. E.M.Smith says:

    Interesting bit of lawyer-ing by Lincoln:

    Lincoln understood that the Federal government’s power to end slavery in peacetime was limited by the Constitution which before 1865, committed the issue to individual states. Against the background of the American Civil War, however, Lincoln issued the Proclamation under his authority as “Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy” under Article II, section 2 of the United States Constitution. As such, he claimed to have the martial power to free persons held as slaves in those states that were in rebellion “as a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said rebellion”. He did not have Commander-in-Chief authority over the four slave-holding states that were not in rebellion: Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland and Delaware, and so those states were not named in the Proclamation. The fifth border jurisdiction, West Virginia, where slavery remained legal but was in the process of being abolished, was, in January 1863, still part of the legally recognized, “reorganized” state of Virginia, based in Alexandria, which was in the Union (as opposed to the Confederate state of Virginia, based in Richmond).

    In order to make his proclamation (executive order?) all legal like in the face of a constitutional provision, he had to shelter it under war powers… that force him to not use it in Union States…

    But 3/4 of a loaf was better than none, so it was a big start.

    Then there’s some very peculiar details that can only be due to political considerations of expedience…

    The Proclamation applied in the ten states that were still in rebellion in 1863, and thus did not cover the nearly 500,000 slaves in the slave-holding border states (Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland or Delaware) which were Union states. Those slaves were freed by later separate state and federal actions.

    The state of Tennessee had already mostly returned to Union control, under a recognized Union government, so it was not named and was exempted. Virginia was named, but exemptions were specified for the 48 counties then in the process of forming the new state of West Virginia, and seven additional counties and two cities in the Union-controlled Tidewater region of Virginia. Also specifically exempted were New Orleans and 13 named parishes of Louisiana, which were mostly under federal control at the time of the Proclamation. These exemptions left unemancipated an additional 300,000 slaves.

    So about 800,000 exempted in a bit of a patchwork. Out of aprox. 3.9 million (see below). So that’s leaving about 3 out of 4 as “emancipated” (but largely in name only… EINO?) until a Union force could take over an area.

    The Emancipation Proclamation has been ridiculed, notably in an influential passage by Richard Hofstadter for “freeing” only the slaves over which the Union had no power. These slaves were freed due to Lincoln’s “war powers”. This act cleared up the issue of contraband slaves. It automatically clarified the status of over 100,000 now-former slaves. Some 20,000 to 50,000 slaves were freed the day it went into effect in parts of nine of the ten states to which it applied (Texas being the exception). In every Confederate state (except Tennessee and Texas), the Proclamation went into immediate effect in Union-occupied areas and at least 20,000 slaves were freed at once on January 1, 1863.

    The Proclamation provided the legal framework for the emancipation of nearly all four million slaves as the Union armies advanced, and committed the Union to end slavery, which was a controversial decision even in the North. Hearing of the Proclamation, more slaves quickly escaped to Union lines as the Army units moved South. As the Union armies advanced through the Confederacy, thousands of slaves were freed each day until nearly all (approximately 3.9 million, according to the 1860 Census) were freed by July 1865.

    It was a LOT more complicated than was presented in Grammar School when stated in “History Class”… (I’ve come to appreciate that most of what I was taught in “History Classes” was a cut down Readers Digest version of things that often had a lot more and sometimes quite different reality behind them…)

  190. E.M.Smith says:


    What brand of engine? (All the older Briggs & Stratton engines I’ve taken apart have been splash oiled… have they gone to oil pumps? Or is it non-B&S?)

  191. jim2 says:

    This is not intended to say slavery is OK in any form.

    However, back when the US was formed slavery was common and wasn’t limited to Blacks. Just about every race had individuals enslaved at some point and just about every race had slaves, including Blacks.

    For any large enough group, there will be individuals in those groups who are racists. I believe this is due to evolution, where group cohesiveness was necessary for survival, and it’s a powerful force. I do believe most people can overcome the tendency, but there will always be a handful who harbor hatred.

    Sex will overcome a lot of that problem.

  192. The True Nolan says:

    @philjourdan: “That is why the holiday is so stupid. Democrats still had slaves for almost 6 months after Juneteenth.”

    I once got into a bit of an online exchange with a person claiming to be a college level Professor of American History. He had claimed that the Emancipation Proclamation “freed all the slaves” and I pointed out that no, it specifically did NOT free slaves in any area under Union control. He disagreed. I asked that he READ the proclamation (it’s only a couple of pages long). No deal. I suppose that he was so certain of his expertise that he didn’t want to waste time checking something he just KNEW was correct.

    One question I have regarding the cessation of slavery in the US (and I admit that I have not done much research on it for a decade or so because I got frustrated). Exactly WHEN did each State end slavery? Yes, Dec 6 1865 for the 13th Amendment, but some states had moved in that direction earlier, and therein lies the confusion. As near as I can tell, most of the States that had already started the end of slavery did so incrementally, not as an absolute. They had laws like “any person born of slaves after the year so-and-so will NOT be a slave, but those born before year such-and -such will remain slaves for a term of XX years after the passage of blah, blah, blah…” Consequently it looks like some States which had MOSTLY freed their slaves still had some fraction of them remaining as slaves for decades later. I guess an easier way to phrase the question is “What States still had ANY legal slaves at all as of December 5, 1865? ” I once emailed an Abolition Society (there are still some out there) with the question but never got a response. In fact, I seem to remember that we have touched on it here at EM’s blog, but it quickly devolves into a mass of weeds. Turns out it is a much harder question than I had expected. My hope? That some aspiring scholar somewhere has done the State by State research into laws and census reports. Would be a nice project for some post-grad.

  193. The True Nolan says:

    @E.M. : “It is great fun, and I really don’t understand the folks who find thinking a PITA. I get absolute pleasure and sometimes joy out of learning a “new trick” or “interesting thing”, and revel in bagging a new skill as much as any hunter bagging a deer or pheasant.”

    Yes, I understand, same here — although I DO wish I had your facility for new languages. Me? Mostly science, technical, math stuff. My theory is that those with that mindset which makes learning fun, are, in a sense, still childlike. I do not mean “childlike” is an unsophisticated way, but that “childlike” way of being intensely curious, open to new ideas, and able to absorb concepts without effort. Everyone has that ability as a child but most adults lose that and become canalized, or “siloed” as you say. I admit that for me at least, the ease and speed of learning have slowed somewhat, especially after about 60 or so, but the curiosity? Nope! Still got it! :)

  194. YMMV says:

    Wow. Somehow I don’t think I ever heard how many slaves there were!

    1860 – U.S. Census. U.S. population: 31,443,321. Total number of slaves in the Lower South : 2,312,352 (47% of total population). Total number of slaves in the Upper South: 1,208758 (29% of total population). Total number of slaves in the Border States: 432,586 (13% of total population). Almost one-third of all Southern families owned slaves. In Mississippi and South Carolina it approached one half. The total number of slave owners was 385,000 (including, in Louisiana, some free Negroes). As for the number of slaves owned by each master, 88% held fewer than twenty, and nearly 50% held fewer than five.


    They must have been very rich!

    the average cost of a slave in 1860 peaked at $800. Adjusted for inflation, this is $20,147.95. That was the peak average price of slaves, as it steadily rose in the years up to the Civil War.

    That comment was 2013 dollars. The discussion where that came from is illuminating and contains links for more info.

    This really puts a different perspective on the civil war- the south was fighting to keep a system worth 57 times more than Apple, enough money that most of the US could be supported by it if it was still here today.

    If slaves cost that much, wouldn’t it have been cheaper just to hire someone to do the work?
    Or buy it from India. Britain had a tight hold on India because of cotton. But before the Civil War Britain bought cotton from the US and so the Confederates thought that Britain would back them in the war. Oops.

  195. E.M.Smith says:


    I’ve tried pointing that out to some Dim folks and they don’t like it. Oh Well. They also get that glazed look when you point out some Blacks in America held slaves.

    FWIW, we still have slavery today. China does it as a government (calling them criminals then putting them in sweat shops). Islam specifically says it is “OK!”, so anywhere with a Muslim Majority can vote it to be legal (or just do it with a winky…). Since The Koran specifically says it is Just Fine and lays out the rules involved, and that is the Holy Word Of The Prophet, no way that’s going away. There’s other bits scattered around the world too.

    For a really fun time, find a Dim who’s berating folks about “White Racism” and inform them that the Blacks sold into slavery and shipped from Africa to America were enslaved by fellow blacks and sold via Arab slave traders. When one tribe conquered their neighbor, the winner sold off the loser. So a whole lot of the “Black Slave Trade” was directly driven by Blacks & Muslims (and in some cases Black Muslims as they spread Islam southward from North Africa).

    Also note that African Muslims loved to raid what is now the UK and take back white slaves to be sold into the Islamic World. ANY image of a “dancing girl” doing a belly dance for a Sheikh or other Arab Trader in tent? That’s a Slave. (The Koran says Muslim women must be kept covered, so only Infidel dancers can be so displayed, and they were via slavery until Britain and America ended it. That “shores of Tripoli” in the Marine’s song…)

    It wasn’t until the British decided to end the practice (and later the North of the USA caught up) that the Atlantic Slave Trade was slowed and eventually stopped. It was the White British and Americans that ended the Slave Trade started by Blacks & Muslims. (Well, really slavery had been around since before the Roman Empire, so at least 2000 years… but the trans-Atlantic slave trade was via the Black Africans selling other Black Africans and Muslims as the traders on shore).

    So “when did Slavery end”? It never has. Just the area of the Earth that still does it has shrunk a lot.

    Oh, and “honorable mention” as slavers? W.W.II Nazi labor camps. They tended to work folks as slaves until near death, then kill them. So still around in Europe in the 1940s. And as mentioned above, in China today with similar “dissident labor camp” cover story. FWIW, pretty much every Chinese I’ve gotten to know reasonably well has fessed up that Chinese think every other race is inferior. Though they will sometimes rank whites as better than blacks, but both well below Chinese… So no surprise they would run slave camps, really.

  196. Ossqss says:

    @EM, it is a 7.8 HP GN-220 Generac overhead valve industrial engine. Not a B&S.

    My newer (old) 10,000w unit has a 18HP B&S Vanguard engine and it too has a pressurized lube system. I only typically use this unit to power the whole house AC and prefer to use the smaller one mostly. Big difference in mileage. The little guy uses about 1/4 of the gas the big one does (1 gal/hr)

  197. YMMV says:

    “Chinese think every other race is inferior”

    From history, not my own experience, China v Japan, Japan v Korea, racism can be very finely granulated. Even in Mexico, there is racism ranked by percentage Indian heritage (whiter being “better”). And an exception? I don’t know of blacks in the US discriminating against blacks who are blacker or whiter.

    In say England of Downton Abbey times, there are servants who seem to work 24×7 (with time off for church, but not much else), and the pay is more or less room and board. In theory, you can quit, but is that not just a milder form of slavery? (plus racism against the Irish)

    While Barbary corsairs looted the cargo of ships they captured, their primary goal was to capture people for sale as slaves or for ransom. Those who had family or friends who might ransom them were held captive, but not obliged to work; the most famous of these was the author Miguel de Cervantes, who was held for almost five years. Others were sold into various types of servitude. Attractive women or boys could be used as sex slaves.

  198. p.g.sharrow says:

    @Ossqss & EM my 5Kw Generac is powered by 10hp Tecmseh. Looks much like a standard B&S flat head, No pressurized oil system that I know of, just splashed. Not too bad on fuel around a half gallon per hr. But my guess is that 5Kw/10hp is wish-full thinking as a full 5Kw load will stall the engine or pop a breaker…pg

  199. cdquarles says:

    Well, my own experience says otherwise, regarding bigotry among Black Americans. Some of the most vicious racism today lives there, against all who are not as dark skinned as themselves or if they are, didn’t come from some place in Africa in the distant past.

  200. E.M.Smith says:


    Typically the “rating” big number is “surge” (basically rotating inertia load) and the “continuous” for a 5 kW is pegged about about 20% off, so about 4 kW.


    Oddly, I’ve observed odd “black racism” in a few divergent ways.
    1) Blacks hating Whites. Really common now in the BLM racists.
    2) Blacks priding themselves on being “lighter” (more common in the ’60s than now).
    3) What you pointed out, very pure Blacks being uppity towards those less “pure”…

    The really strange experience?

    A trip to Jamaica. An essentially Black country. It was the first time I saw a Black Society that was comfortable in it’s own skin. Police just being the Police Authority. Singers and musicians just making the music they, and their mostly black audience, wanted. Bus drivers who were happy at being a bus driver. Families out in the countryside with a goat in the yard and Their Home, being happy with their life. NOBODY seemed to stress about “being Black” or some ancestral slavery. They were just getting one with enjoying their life and liberty.

    Impressed the hell out of me.

  201. Compu Gator says:

    Here’s wishin’ Chiefio‘s UnitedStatesian readers a happy Real independence Day: Yes, today, July 2nd (albeit belatedly in GMT/UTC and eastward, sigh), not July 4th.  The 2nd was the crucial day, one of genuine suspense: A previously approved motion had required that any vote for independence be unanimous!  Crucial points in favor of that motion were that the delegates were, in effect, voting for war: A nonunanimous vote would sort the colonies into 2 sides that were enemies of each other!

    I realize that I’m siding not only with a Yankee Protestant, but possibly worse, citing as evidence The Washington Post [†]:

    [….] John Adams, who had a lot to do with the American colonies’ break from Great Britain, didn’t think the day to commemorate was July 4.  Adams, a leader of the American Revolution who became the first vice president and the second president of the United States, thought July 2 was the date that would be celebrated “as the great anniversary festival.”

    The next day, on July 3, Adams wrote a letter to his wife Abigail with this prediction:

    The Second Day of July 1776, will be the most memorable Epocha, in the History of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding generations, as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more.

    [….] Why?  Because it was on July 2, 1776, that delegates at the Second Continental Congress meeting in Philadelphia officially separated the 13 American colonies from Britain by approving a motion for independence advanced by Richard Henry Lee of Virginia. Twelve of the 13 colonies approved it (New York abstained, as its representatives did not have permission to vote for it at that time)

    I’ve believed for years that by comparison, the mistakenly hallowed 4th was merely a paperwork-review day, stressing out Thomas Jefferson, as the other delegates argued for individual changes in his draft Declaration, phrase by phrase, and word by word. After mangling his draft, which none of them could have have written themselves [✍], they eventually adopted the draft-as-marked-up later on the 4th []. Contrary to the imagination of various artists, notably John Trumbull, no one signed that Declaration on the 4th, except possibly Second Continental Congress president John Hancock and secretary Charles Thomson. I’ve previously read assertions along those lines [†]:

    It is now believed that most of the delegates signed it on Aug. 2. That’s when the assistant to the secretary of Congress, Timothy Matlack, produced a clean copy. John Hancock, president of the Continental Congress, signed first, right in the middle of the signature area. The last delegate to sign, according to the National Archives, is believed to be Thomas McKean of Delaware, some time in 1777.

    Note † : “Is July 2 America’s true Independence Day? John Adams thought so.”  By Valerie Strauss (This is a version of a post I have published previously). “Answer Sheet”, The Washington Post, July 1, 2016 at 4:40 p.m. EDT [††]. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2016/07/01/is-july-2-the-true-independence-day-john-adams-thought-so/.

    Note †† : Legend for partial header image: “The rough draft of the Declaration of Independence is preserved in Washington. The draft was written by John Adams and Benjamin Franklin before adoption by the Congress. (AP)”.  Sez Associated Press!?  Or maybe Wash. Post editors?  Hell!  That’s fake news!  Was Thomas Jefferson, far-&-away the principal author of the Declaration [✍], being cancelled back in 2016 on the grounds of being a slaveholder at the time?

    Note ✍ :  T.J. was credited with a “happy talent for composition” and “peculiar felicity of expression”. Adams and Franklin marked up Jefferson’s completed “Rough Draft” in the Declaration Committee, before presenting it to Congress.  See, e.g., Catherine Drinker Bowen ©1949,1950: John Adams and the American Revolution. Atlantic Monthly Press (Little, Brown and Co.): Boston, xix+699 pp.  For content located by this reference-mark, see Bowen’s p. 590–603, and ch. 33 n. 1 on p. 638–639.

  202. YMMV says:

    @cdquarles, thanks for that update. So I can safely say that racism is a human thing. Although I think dogs have it too.

    Jamaica, never been there, but I have been other places in the Carib and did not feel comfortable (probably more anti-tourist than racist) and I’ve never wanted to go back. I’ve known people who went to Jamaica for the music and came back very disillusioned. Like everywhere, it depends how well you fit in. Don’t like it, I love it:

    regarding Covid reinfections, Dr. John had a neat graphic:
    from the paper investigating reinfection

    I think the meaning of “infection” and “reinfection” in this paper is just a positive PCR test. To me that means you have some virus in your nose not that you are necessarily sick or even asymptomatic. Since neither vaccines nor previous Covid can keep you from breathing the virus.

  203. YMMV says:

    I hate YT censorship, but I have to give their AI some credit. After playing that 10cc song, it told me about the story behind it. The song is a bit ambiguous, so it’s good to hear what it really meant. Plus, the video has clips from other hit songs he wrote starting in 1965.

  204. The True Nolan says:

    @E.M.”A trip to Jamaica. An essentially Black country.”

    I have not been to Jamaica but have had several Black Jamaicans as friends. My experience with them is essentially what you describe. No chip on the shoulder, no default anti-White attitude, smarter and harder working than most of my Black American friends.

    For an interesting look into the pre-Civil War, but post-British-antislavery campaign, read “A Slaver’s Log Book” https://www.amazon.com/Slavers-Log-Book-Manuscript-Theophilus/dp/0137887523/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=20+years+a+slaver&qid=1625277779&sr=8-1
    The author (being a slave merchant) certainly cannot be considered a fair witness, but claims that much of the horrendous conditions for the ships transporting slaves was due to the illegality of the cross-Atlantic trade. (It was illegal in the US to import slaves after 1808. There is a clause in the Constitution which set that as the earliest end date for importation.) Much like drug smugglers today, the slave traders would forfeit not only their wealth and perhaps their lives, but their ships would be seized and destroyed. Because of the additional risk of losing ships some traders would double up on their human cargo, so that if one ship were lost they could perhaps recoup some of their loss on another load on a different ship. Often, even good causes and good laws still have unpleasant side effects.

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  206. Ossqss says:

    @EM, my 4k number is not surge. It is running load capacity. I have put a deep freezer, fridge and 14k BTU AC unit on it and it worked fine. Let alone, TV and internet stuff. Start them in order, and it works better instead of all at once. Start up load can be a problem if simultaneous. .

  207. another ian says:


    Re dipstick problems

    IIRC one series of British Leyland front wheel drive cars had a dipstick length problem that overfilled the oil level and the crank frothed the oil.

    A cynic might say that BL had numerous “dipstick” problems though

    And (not BL)


  208. another ian says:




  209. philjourdan says:

    @TTN – When each state abolished slavery and which states still had legal slavery as of 12/6/1865 are 2 vastly different questions. In 1619, as EM hinted at, the first blacks were not slaves as it was not legal in the colonies. Instead they were indentured servants (just as the most Irish coming over in the 17th and 18th centuries). Hence the first big lie of Nikole Hannah Jones (and why no grandchild of mine will set foot on a fools school’s campus – UNC).

    Shortly after 1619 however, the king did make it legal and all colonies were legally allowed to have slaves. Over the course of the next 100 years, slavery died on the vine in the northern states as they cost more than their labor produced (Econ 101 for lie #2 of NHJ). So slavery disappeared in most northern colonies before the influence of the Quakers encouraged them to make it illegal. I believe by the war, only one Northern state still allowed slavery, although there were probably no slaves in it.

    But wheels of legislation grind slowly, so that by December 6, only MD and DC had outlawed slavery. TN, KY, MO, WV (still part of VA, but exempt from the emancipation Proclamation) and Delaware (who hated Lincoln and hence they kept them out of spite) slavery was still legal. Maryland rewrote their constitution in 1864 and outlawed it then. Here is a quick and dirty guide to the ending of slavery in America – https://lib.guides.umd.edu/marylandslavery

  210. E.M.Smith says:

    See: https://gettr.com/

    The new Trump social media platform.

  211. The True Nolan says:

    @philjourdan: Oooh, some good information. Thanks! You say that “the wheels of legislation grind slowly”. Sure enough. Look at Connecticut. (via Wiki)

    “Connecticut blocked the importation of slaves in 1774, via the passage in the state legislature of the “Act for Prohibiting the Importation of Indian, Negro or Molatto Slaves”[2] and began a gradual emancipation of slaves in 1784, through the passage by the state legislature of the “Gradual Abolition Act” of that year. Through this “freeing the womb” act, all slaves born after March 1, 1784, would become free upon attaining the age of 25 for men and 21 for women,[3] though it did not free the parents, or any other adult slaves. In 1844, Governor Roger Sherman Baldwin proposed legislation to end slavery, but the General Assembly did not pass it until it was reintroduced in 1848 as “An Act to Prevent Slavery”.[4][5] Connecticut’s last slave, Nancy Toney of Windsor, died in December of 1857.[6]”

    64 years (1784 – 1848) between “gradual abolition” and the actual end. I wonder how many slaves approaching manumission were surreptitiously sold down south, regardless of laws against interstate sales?

  212. jim2 says:

    Finally, SCOTUS does their job …

    The Supreme Court just ended the Democrats’ attempt to continue the Russia-Trump witch-hunt.

    The Supreme Court vacated earlier rulings and denied congressional Democrats records from the Mueller investigation’s grand jury proceedings.


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