W.O.O.D. – 3 September 2021


This is another of the W.O.O.D. series of semi-regular
Weekly Occasional Open Discussions.
(i.e. if I forget and skip one, no big)

Immediate prior one here:

and remains open for threads running there (at least until the ‘several month’ auto-close of comments on stale threads).

Canonical list of old ones here:


A reminder from the last W.O.O.D.:

A property owned clear is now “under contract”, so in about 10 to 20 days, we will be madly packing and /or relocated (mostly…) to Florida.

In between now and then “a whole lot of stuff” must happen. So expect there will be long times when I’m “Away From Keyboard”, or posting very short postings, once the computers and monitors are packed up.

More details in the prior W.O.O.D.

“Stuff” Happens

Same thing I started with last time. Memes. This one is a bit dark and has some F-Bombs in it. Why? The C-Fk leaving Afghanistan for one…

I really really like these guy’s “top 10 memes”. They watch what is going on on Gab and Patriot.win and select the ones that they like best. A nice filtering service if nothing else; but the way they match music to the theme is also good. Unfortunately, can’t do an embed that works with my free WordPress plan (it does do free EwTube embeds… but only them) so you get to “hit the link”.


As before, do be prepared to hit pause to pick up the details.

Bits N Pieces

We had a hurricane during hurricane season. Must be climate change /sarc; I’m not sure how well folks came through it, because I’m busy, but I’m hoping it was OK.

Biden Pondering No Fly List for the Unvaccinated

But happy to fly covid infected illegal aliens all over the country and deposit them in your town…

FWIW, I’ve plotted a course to Florida from California that bypasses all major State Lines. Just in case they think putting Border Patrol between the States might work. We’ll see. There are interesting little places where a town is sort of on both sides of the border and a mesh of streets cross it. Nice ;-)

Texas Is Now Constitutional Carry State

The Texas Governor signed into law 7 gun bills. This will get interesting.

One is “Constitutional Carry”. Basically recognizing that when the 2nd Amendment says “Keep and Bear Arms” it means you can have a gun and you can carry it.

Two makes Texas a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary State. Fed can not expect help with abuse of citizens.

Three forbids stopping the transport of guns or ammo during a disaster. I.E. you CAN take your stuff with you.

No government agency can do business with any business that discriminates against gun organizations or companies (such as the NRA).

They repeal a law requiring a shoulder or belt holster, so now you can choose what you like.

#6 is that Travelers can store firearms in their hotel rooms. I didn’t know you couldn’t… but why would anyone EVER want guns left in cars where they can be stolen easily and used in crimes?

Also #7, a controversial Texas Suppressor law that says “Made in Texas sound suppressors are legal as long as they stay in Texas” and Federal Law does not apply. – expect this to go to the Supremes (where we will learn if they can read…).

Hey Ladys! Get ready to be DRAFTED!


Democrats Tuck Female Draft Into Defense Bill
Republican bids to eliminate critical race theory, protect all-male draft shot down in late-night debate

Jack Beyrer • September 2, 2021 4:45 pm

The Pentagon will have to start drafting women in order to receive funding after House Democrats amended the defense budget.

Rep. Chrissy Houlahan (D., Pa.) put forward a measure on Wednesday to require all women over the age of 18 to register for selective service. Houlahan said her policy would best draw on the “talents of our entire nation.” Only one in three women, however, support adding women to the draft, according to an Ipsos poll. Republicans pilloried the legislation. Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R., Mo.), a House Armed Services Committee member, lampooned the prospect that millions of America’s daughters could be put needlessly in the line of fire.

Does The Resistance Begin With Guitars?


The punk rock movement let musicians rage against the artistic machine.

The songs were short, surly and yet melodic. The lyrics delivered in-your-face rebukes to conformity, a tone which caught fire with both the young and young at heart. Their music established a bulwark behind which the counter culture bloomed.

The era burned out quickly, but it left us with legendary acts like The Clash, The Ramones, the Sex Pistols and more. Their counter-culture cries shook the artistic world, and it’s well past time for something similar to rise up in our calcified woke age.

Is it heading our way soon?

The Spectator recently argued in the affirmative. The outlet suggested the wave “will drown Hollywoke like the Red Sea did the Egyptian army in that old two-part tome they never read, and in a manner even Ridley Scott couldn’t direct.”

The conventional entertainers – think late night TV, woke streaming platforms and relics like “Saturday Night Live” – lack anything resembling that punk aesthetic. […]

That leaves a massive hole for renegade artists to march right through.[…]Today’s punk artists must dodge Big Tech censors, Cancel Culture scolds and, too often, fellow artists eager to snag a scalp in the woke wars.

Yet, as it stands right now, many are doing just that. The counter culture revolution is well underway. Look no further than the new king of late night comedy, Fox News’ “Gutfeld!”
What Gutfeld offers, though, is a free-thinking approach to the late night arena. He might as well be Johnny Rotten snarling at the status quo five nights a week.

He’s far from alone in defying pop culture groupthink.

Rapper Tom MacDonald’s songs are like Gutfeld monologues sprung to life. He rants against the woke police, the death of nuance and how we’re “brainwashed” by the media. […]

His music videos rack up a million-plus views in roughly a day of late, and the songs typically bum rush the iTunes music charts.
It’s precisely what The Babylon Bee has done in a relatively short period. The Christian satire site is telling all the jokes Stephen Colbert won’t from his late night TV perch. Think right-leaning, God tweaking “news” that appeals to audiences with open minds.
Consider the following faux news article: “Report: Biden Wasn’t Checking Watch, Just Making Sure There Was No Blood Left On His Hands”

So it goes…

For more, see:

Trump Social Media site:


Bongino Report:


Or Whatfinger:


I’ve also gotten addicted to the Top Ten Memes of the week from WatchMAGA here:


They have interesting “bite” to them, along with a tendency to highlight the news of the week in memes, so good as a social attitude pointer too. Plus they are “way fun” ;-)

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435 Responses to W.O.O.D. – 3 September 2021

  1. E.M.Smith says:


    I see your Honest Australia News and raise you an Honest Hawaii News (F-Bomb included):

  2. H.R. says:

    It seems Greg Gutfeld is now the King of Late Night Television.

    His show is strongly MAGA and is a sharp stick in the eye of most all politicians, Hollyweird, and the wokerati.

    His show is number one in the ratings. People are fed up with the woke, leftist, alleged late night comedy show. There are a LOT of sane people who are tired of the leftist shows with leftist comedy that isn’t even funny.

    It’s no surprise that the Forgotten Man that Trump appealed to would gravitate to the Gutfeld show.

  3. philjourdan says:

    We got some good rain out of Ida, and a couple of Tornados in nearby counties, but as I- Storms go, this was a dud. (we have been slammed by Isabel and Irene).

    BTW: Love the Hawaii video.

  4. The True Nolan says:

    @EM: “We had a hurricane during hurricane season. Must be climate change /sarc”

    My dear wifey thing read a headline to me this morning: “HURRICANE CAUSED 13 FOOT STORM SURGE IN NEW YORK CITY”. See saw it in her Farmers Almanac, a report from 200 years ago, Sept 3, 1821.

    Oohh, love the Hawaii video as well! But that brings up the question of how old is too old? Some of my Cherokee ancestors walked the Trail of Tears, but am I entitled to any sort of compensation for the land seizures back then? Does north Georgia REALLY belong to ME? I don’t feel like it does… But how old is too old? With Hawaii it looks like all the people involved in the capture of Hawaii are dead and gone, no way to unscramble that particular egg. My solution, imperfect as it might be? The heck with what dead people did or did not do. Ask the people of Hawaii alive today, all of them, “indigenous” or not. (And of course, no one is indigenous to Hawaii, that is just semantic warfare.) Do you, the living, want to separate from the US? Yes or no? Not a perfect solution, but I don’t see anything better.

  5. H.R. says:

    @E.M. – It seems you’ll be landing in Florida in Early October. You certainly will be *ahem* busy.

    I well remember our move to our current house. We bought it with closing to be in 45 days. We had not even listed our previous house. Our realtor thought we were nuts. He did not know our neighborhood.

    Our house sold for what we wanted and closed within 30 days. The realtor could not believe it. We just gave him a “told ya so.”

    The compressed time frame to move was a crazy time. Have fun.

    Pro tip: Anything you don’t want to fuss with, just put it by the curb the day before trash pickup. The ‘pickers’ will disappear it that night or in the early morning hours.

  6. John Hultquist says:

    About deaths in NYC via the WSJ:
    “At least 13 people died from flooding in the city, including 11 in basements of residential homes, …”

    I don’t claim to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but flooding was predicted and basements are an easy place for water to find — unlike say the 3rd floor.
    I’ll guess many of these folks were vulnerable – – and relatives, friends, neighbors, social workers, or someone should have made the effort to move them. If something like this scenerio is NOT the case, then I suggest a Darwin Award.
    Or am I missing an important point?

    Good luck with the packing, travel, and new digs.
    You might want to find and listen to ‘ George Carlin Talk About “Stuff” ‘

  7. rhoda klapp says:

    If you have Hawaiian ancestry enough, the state will give you a piece of land. That is denied to those who are merely US citizens. I thought that a little strange.

  8. H.R. says:

    @Rhoda – I learned about that only a few years ago. It surprised me, too. I think Hawaii is the only U.S. State with such a law.

    I’m guessing they figured that rich people from everywhere else would soon bid up and buy up all the property and no native Hawaiian would actually own a piece of their native land.

    IIRC, you can “buy” a property in Hawaii, but it’s actually more like a 30 or 50 year lease from a native Hawaiian landowner. To “sell” your property, you sell the remainder of your lease.

    I’m not 100% certain of the details, but it’s something along those lines. It’s really strange to a Continental U.S. resident.

  9. YMMV says:

    I saw something very recently and now I can’t find it again. It said Fauci has always wanted to find a vaccine against HIV the virus which causes AIDS. There is little doubt about that. And that is why he funded bat virus research at Wuhan. That is at least plausible. Certainly lots of bat virus research was done at Wuhan and done publicly.

    From Apri 2020l: https://www.livemint.com/news/world/nobel-winning-scientist-claims-covid-19-virus-was-man-made-in-wuhan-lab-11587303649821.html
    “France’s Luc Montagnier says SARS-CoV-2 virus was the result of an attempt to manufacture a vaccine against the AIDS virus”

    Montagnier has the Nobel Prize 2008:

    Montagnier, an established expert in virology, was approached in 1982 by Paris clinician Willy Rozenbaum to examine a new illness (AIDS). Rozenbaum and his colleague, virologist Françoise Brun-Vézinet, suspected the disease might be caused by a retrovirus – a viral RNA strand that corrupts existing DNA to its pattern – and within weeks Montagnier’s team found evidence of an active retrovirus in tissue from a patient’s lymph node.

    source: https://www.mediatheque.lindau-nobel.org/laureates/montagnier

    Montagnier also believes vaccines create new variants. Not a popular opinion, so of course he has been “fact checked”. But if Wuhan offered any hint of help with an AIDS vaccine, I would bet that he would have jumped on it.

  10. David A says:

    Ian, thank you, excellent and intriguing article.
    Essentially zero side affects and potent against various cancers.

  11. The True Nolan says:

    Just a video reminding us that people who have made bad decisions tend to become adamant in getting others to do likewise.

  12. another ian says:

    “It Should be Over” “But it’s not”:


  13. Ossqss says:

    Sooooo, I was watching FX and a WWF commercial came on about adopting an Elephant. It was not even like the money was going to the animal, they even said it was some kind of virtue signaling donation. WT*!

    WE all live in strange times>>

  14. YMMV says:

    another ian: “It Should be Over” “But it’s not”:

    I looked at that link. The “should be over” part is from Table 2 of this Canada govt report:
    Indeed, it shows very high vaccination rates, and that agrees with the graphs Dr. John Campbell shows.

    The “but it’s not” part’s data is not given, but I found it here:
    Indeed, it is not “over”. Again, the data agrees with what Dr. John shows.
    That said, Canada is not doing so bad, relatively speaking.

    I agree that according to what was said and believed before, that level of vaccination should have resulted in herd immunity. But it did not. That was before they realized that vaccination does not prevent the spread of the virus. Should they have realized earlier? In hindsight, it is easy to say yes. Now I think herd immunity was an illusion and that we will not reach it until everybody has been exposed to the virus. So stock up on IVM and/or everything else that might prevent it. Herd immunity is not going to protect you.

    As for any claims that the vaccines do not work to protect from serious illness and death, I suggest you take a peek at Figure 5 here:

    Where are all the other “new improved” vaccines? There is talk about a booster shot, but with the same old same old? Really?

  15. another ian says:

    “What would you do?”


    And what you might call “Creative Comments”

  16. another ian says:

    CTH moves on from definition of the problem

    “Part I, The Solution – Deconstructing the Fourth Branch of Government
    September 3, 2021 | Sundance | 60 Comments”


  17. jim2 says:

    another ian says: 4 September 2021 at 9:22 am.

    CTH has this one nailed! Non-leftests tend to be the productive members of society. While we have been working, the left has been infiltrating every entity in society – government at all levels, the schools, newspapers, boards of directors – you name it. Non-leftists have to take these back.

  18. David A says:

    I looked at your link.
    “ Data extracted on August 30, 2021 for cases from December 14, 2020 up until August 14, 2021.”

    Please understand they got the peak infection and deaths rate with almost or 100 percent not vaccinated. The vaccines are effective, in fact they produce far higher antibodies then needed! However they lose 40 percent of there antibody production monthly. Look for information on the last month only. Notice the current rise in cases. And be aware that even those numbers may be jiggered.

  19. jim2 says:

    Heather Mullins: “This is huge… I came across a document a few months back… They have basically been collecting a bunch of geospatial data … that’s basically cellphone pings …. and creating software that can filter through this data and help them piece together what they now believe is ballot trafficking… So they collected this data over the last few months and not just in Georgia, but Arizona, Wisconsin, and several other states. In addition to that data in Georgia specifically, they have the corresponding dropbox footage because under Georgia law they’re supposed to be under surveillance. So now what they’ve been trying to piece together is to find the footage that corresponds with timestamps of these people that were going from dropbox to dropbox to dropbox. And what I’ve been told on average they visited 23-24 drop boxes (a night). So in the state of Georgia, you’re not allowed to harvest ballots; it’s illegal, so this is a crime if the Georgia Bureau of Investigations will take it up.”


  20. jim2 says:

    In late 2020, True the Vote engaged a select team of contractors and set out to determine whether widespread ballot trafficking was occurring as part of an organized criminal enterprise.

    We’d watched the mass mail out of paper ballots to highly inaccurate voter records, the harried installation of ballot dropboxes privately funded by billionaire tech magnates, and the hundreds of legislative changes, lawsuits, and consent decrees that fundamentally altered election processes. All of it came together in 2020, under the fog of COVID. It was planned. It was purposeful.

    Having studied election process for decades, our team was well aware of the pitfalls associated with America’s uniquely insecure approach to elections. We knew that attempts to prove certain types of election malfeasance would fail, so we chose instead to focus on the grifts that would necessarily leave trackable, provable data trails.

    To test our trafficking theory, we acquired over ten trillion location-based cell signals in major metropolitan areas across six states. Initially, we worked with whistleblowers and witnesses, but soon enough, the data alone told the tale. Using mobile and GPS data, we mapped the travel patterns of ballot traffickers to ballot dropboxes.

    This tracking method is explained in great detail by The New York Times in a series they ran called The Privacy Project. They and others have published much about how mobile data was used to track President Trump and identify individuals at the January 6th event at the Capitol. Law enforcement uses this type of data routinely. So, lest anyone say we did anything untoward, let us be very clear, all of this data is regularly bought and sold, about all of us.

    What We Found

    Our findings reveal overwhelming evidence of ballot trafficking, some of which is highlighted in the article. We have much more.

    All our research, including suspected locations where ballots were delivered, processed, and distributed, along with the individual devices associated, has been submitted in the form of a formal complaint, along with all data, to the FBI. Briefings have been provided to state law enforcement and political leadership in several states. These conversations will continue to broaden in the coming days.

    We’ve also acquired over a petabyte of video surveillance data. The quality of this video is inferior overall; lighting is bad, cameras are poorly positioned, timestamps are manipulated, key timeframes are often missing. Nevertheless, we are working video by video, using proprietary AI-based code we’ve written to screen the over 100,000 clips in our possession. The result? We are successfully finding video evidence that corroborates the digital data and supports the need for full investigations by law enforcement.


  21. E.M.Smith says:

    @Per all the election fraud evidence:

    Like with Cold Fusion… I’ve reached the “Show me when the results are astounding” phase. It’s been “Beer Tomorrow” for so many months (years?) that I’m jaded and won’t believe it matters until I see a parade of falling down drunks in evidence that the beer has in fact arrived…

    So when we have a half dozen folks doing “Perp Walks” and some with Official Offices In Government (i.e. DNC Denizens) then I’ll believe it… maybe… (Or maybe after the DA gets a conviction…)

  22. jim2 says:

    EMS – I am also tired of conservative virtue signalling. If objecting meant anything, Republicans would be stellar government achievers.

    Republicans object to special session rules

    Republicans Object To Partisan Election Laws — Unless

    Republicans object to counting of Electoral College votes from Arizona

    56 House Republicans object Nevada’s election results

    Top Republicans Object to Biden’s Afghanistan Pullout

    These House Republicans plan to object certifying Biden’s

    House Republicans pressure Senate GOP to object to

    Republicans Object To Biden Win After Capitol Riots

  23. YMMV says:

    David A: “The vaccines are effective, in fact they produce far higher antibodies then needed! However they lose 40 percent of there antibody production monthly.”

    Someone said the vaccines were developed purposely with a too high level, to save time figuring out what the right levels would be. That is believable. But then they said the downside was that the body does not go ahead and make memory cells etc. Which would account for the rapid fall in antibodies compared to a “natural” covid caused immunity. I would like to see data on that.

    “Look for information on the last month only. Notice the current rise in cases. And be aware that even those numbers may be jiggered.”

    I’ve gone off case counts, jiggered or not. It’s the difference between being shot at and being shot when you are on the battlefield. Body armor does not keep you from being shot at.

    Further to the Canadian data mentioned above, I found this treasure trove of data from BC: http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site/Documents/COVID_sitrep/2021-08-26_Data_Summary.pdf
    Scroll to page 23. “COVID-19 hospitalization rate by vaccination status and age, July 1 – Aug 23, 2021”

    Click to access 2021-08-26_Data_Summary.pdf

    The data is clear. Vaccination provides a lot of protection. And age is a huge handicap (slide 19).

    Now look at slide 35 in that PDF. Israel is not doing so well anymore. Possibly because of that rapidly decaying protection from the vaccines. More data needed.

  24. The True Nolan says:

    Laughter is the best medicine:

  25. another ian says:


    Doing my bit to get that to epidemic level!

    “The “vaccine” you get when you have thoroughly woked the definition of “vaccine” “(IMO)

  26. another ian says:

    “This is an even more Hillarious Biden, COVID and mask spoof. Only 1 minute.”

    Via a comment at Jo Nova

  27. David A says:

    YMMV “ Someone said the vaccines were developed purposely with a too high level, to save time figuring out what the right levels would be. ”

    My perspective is that logically they knew, how could they not. They HAD to skyrocket the antibody counts to get any lasting affect. They had time to study this. If they knew the vaccines were as failed as they appear, they would very likely lose their legal immunity. ( karma can be a bit..) They certainly deserve to. Seeing the fall off in antibodies they jacked the levels very high, so that a 40 percent monthly drop takes almost six months to get below a critical threshold. Look at the UCSD study of their 18 thousand employees, and notice the very steady 90 percent plus effective vaccine month after month, then the sudden July crash to 60 percent effective, in one month, just like Israel, only lagged to their vaccine schedule.


    I think we are all on this pattern. The Uk, Iceland, the US, basically the world.

    Here with comments added…
    “ In vaccinated subjects, antibody titers decreased by up to 40% each subsequent month while in convalescents they decreased by less than 5% per month. Six months after BNT162b2 vaccination 16.1% subjects had antibody levels below the seropositivity threshold of <50 AU/mL, while only 10.8% of convalescent patients were below <50 AU/mL threshold after 9 months from SARS-CoV-2 infection.

    “In other words the dosing they used, and the original titers, concealed the decay below effective levels which was not being tested for but would have shown up in infections among vaccinated people had the original level been lower.”

    In our study, we show that following vaccination, the levels of anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies decrease rapidly, indicating that BMPCs may not be created adequately and therefore anti-SARS-CoV-2 humoral immunity might be transient (Ibarrondo et al., 2020; Seow et al., 2020). 

    So. If there is little or no B-cell recall then the vaccine is a failure as it cannot stimulate durable immunity at all.  That is, the jabs are basically the same (via a different mechanism) to receiving monoclonal antibodies if you get infected; yes, you have an antibody titer but the jabs fail to train your immune system to recognize the infection in the future.  As that titer wanes the protection becomes increasingly worthless and, since we know mutational binding changes are occurring the potential for vaccine-caused harm by potentiating infections remains a distinct possibility as that occurs.“

    OAS is another distinct possibility. Many nations, (ALL?) on on the Israel pattern where an uptick in cases and hospitalizations follows the nations vaccine pattern. Look in your study you linked. They were late to the vaccinated party. By mid April only 15 percent vaccinated. And then a rapid and durable incline in vaccines. So only the initial slow period to about 10 percent vaccinated is coming into the critical fall below the necessary antibody level to fight the virus.

  28. Compu Gator says:

    Ossqss commented on 4 September 2021 at 4:24 am GMT:

    I was watching FX and a WWF commercial came on about adopting an Elephant. It was not even like the money was going to the animal, they even said it was some kind of virtue signaling donation.

    Ahhh, yesss! Not much different from the Florida-based “Save the Manatee Club”‘s (SMC) “Adopt a Manateescam. Their expenditures almost certainly include their conspicuous political lobbying to close alleged “manatee habitat” [⌖] to recreational divers and other aquatic humans, because of an alleged threat that the presence of those humans poses to “Florida manatees” (Trichechus manatus latirostris).  Notably at the once crystal-clear springs along the Crystal River (Citrus Co.).

    The Crystal River springs had been popular for decades for new-diver training, notably open-water dives. Those are dives that must be successfully completed to earn each diver’s basic diver certification card. Those springs are still probably popular despite the spring-waters being fouled by fertilizer-intensive St.-Augustine grass lawns that were somehow allowed to be planted by new-home owners right up to seawalls built at the edge of the water. Can you say “eutropification”?  Manatees might not care; they can be seen in outright muddy water, as long as the water is warm enough. Notably in the Caloosahatchee R. (Lee Co.), whose nuke plant provided warm exhaust water where manatees congregated.

    I strongly doubt that there were any claims of significant negative impacts to the state’s manatee population from divers until (in my opinion) SMC needed (another) crisis to justify seeking an extra source of charitable donations. Of course, you can just trust them to make effective use of the extra money. Well, can’t you?

    Note ⌖ :  Even better politically for “orthodox environmentalists” when a critical habitat designation can somehow be finagled. It’s a potent feature of the Endangered Species Act (1973?) and its subsequent racheted-up revisions.

  29. Compu Gator says:

    Ossqss commented on 4 September 2021 at 4:24 am GMT [*]:

    I was watching FX and a WWF commercial came on about adopting an Elephant. It was not even like the money was going to the animal, they even said it was some kind of virtue signaling donation.

    Weren’t you living somewhere in Florida back when the scandal broke (late 1990s?) that the extra charges [†] for the State of Florida’s “[Save the] Florida Panther” vehicle-registration (license) plates were being used for general-purpose “conservation”.  Not for “conservation” of the likely merely isolated population of the U.S. mountain lion Felis concolor, promoted as the “Florida panther”.  Maybe it’s a legit subspecies, maybe not; I’ve learned skepticism of claims of genetic uniqueness.

    Note * :  https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/09/03/w-o-o-d-3-september-2021/#comment-149941.

    Note † :  That’s “extra” relative to cheapest vehicle-registration renewal, which gets the boring state-silhouette standard plate.

  30. E.M.Smith says:


    I ONLY have the panther plate on my Florida Car because I really like the picture (and my daughter does too…)… Honest… I don’t like that California Mountain Lions in my area are eating house pets (because, you know, mountain lions are not at all like all the Panthers that are in other populations with the same appearance and genetics… California is “special”…) nor that they ate a couple of people inside 50 miles…

  31. Ossqss says:

    @ CompuGator, I live in an area where the Sierra club pushed to have a no wake zones due to Manatee’s in the Braden River up by me. They got it passed too!

    Considering the Braden River has a dam about 6 miles down stream, the Manatee’s better have wings. Goes from fresh water to Brackish at the 6’+ dam.

    BTW, the reservoir is the drinking supply for much of the county, from such dam.

  32. Ossqss says:

    Couldn’t stop my mouse>

  33. another ian. says:

    And here we go again!

    “Sunday Talks, Fauci Says First Vaccine Booster Coming Soon and Mu Variant Showing Increased Avoidance of High-Level Antibodies, Making Way For Booster Two
    September 5, 2021 | Sundance | 362 Comments”


  34. another ian says:




  35. another ian says:

    “Israeli scientist on ivermectin study – treating Covid for under $1 per day”


    Double blind study not double blind commentators for a change!

  36. another ian says:

    And Curiosity Restricted

    Life getting tough in NSW

    “NSW Government bans stray shags – regulars only please.”


  37. another ian says:

    A grand collection of memes (IMO)

    Some bloody beauties in fact.


  38. H.R. says:

    Those were some nice finds, another ian. I liked the memes this week, too.

  39. Simon Derricutt says:

    Probably WOOD for this one is the logical choice. Another good rant from Neil Oliver on GBNews. It’s about a loss of trust in media (despite him being part of the media), politicians, and doctors.

  40. H.R. says:

    I wonder how long Australia could function if the majority just sat home and refused to get vaccinated?


    I’d think that after a short while, everything would grind to a halt.

    Currently, there are so many “special” exceptions for the unvaccinated to continue to contribute to the economy. Under the strict tyranny outlined in the CTH article, the PTB (Powers That Be) would have to continue with the exceptions if they do NOT want to starve to death in the dark, all the while looking like obvious hypocritical jackasses. Or they can strictly follow their rules and crash the country.

    The growing protests show that the Aussie citizenry are aware that the PTB are tyrannical jackasses and their blood is beginning to boil.

    You can only beat a mule so long before it sits down and refuses to move no matter how much more you beat on it. That, or it starts “kicking like a mule” and runs off.

    I am counting on the Aussies to do a bit of both, but we’ll have to wait and see.

  41. jim2 says:

    @another ian says: 6 September 2021 at 3:59 am

    Yep, as far as standards of evidence goes, the Richardson Post article is very weak tea. Lot’s of FUD, no evidence.

  42. Steve C says:

    @Simon Derricutt – I had a lot of time for Neil Oliver before he joined GBNews, but on the evidence since he joined them I have to say he is assuredly one of the soundest men left in this sad country. Certainly on the shocking issue of tyrannical politicians forcing themselves between parents and children – once one of the most sacred spaces there was, ffs – you can’t get a cigarette paper between him and me. A bit unfair to tar him with the “media” brush, btw, he is a highly respected historian and archaeologist in his own right – a pretty good place to start from for developing a solid perspective.

    There was a tragic incident here in Nottingham late last week. Fit teenage boy, taking the field to play in a Youth Cup football match, collapsed five minutes into the game, rushed to hospital, died. Not one of the media ask the question that sprang instantly to my mind, which I suspect is the first question that most of us here would have. If I see anything either way, I’ll leave an update here. R.I.P., young man.

    (I’ve mutilated the links a bit in the hope that I won’t run into the WP “too many links” tripwire. Add your own h t t p s etc.)

  43. Steve C says:

    (Oh, I see. WP puts them back together anyway. Still, didn’t trip anything.)

  44. E.M.Smith says:

    @Steve C:

    The “number of links” limit is set by the site admin. Default is, IIRC, 4; but I’ve set it up to 7 or 8. Some sites may set it lower than 4, but that would be very unusual. And yes, WP “helps” by turning what looks like a web site without the http part into “proper” links…

    BTW, “too many links” just go to moderation where I let them through anyway if they are not SPAM.

  45. Simon Derricutt says:

    Steve C – Neil Oliver pointed out himself that he was part of the media in that article. I thought that was fair, since he’s now doing that job. I also find myself in complete agreement, which is somewhat unusual on a mainstream news site. I’ve enjoyed his other work, too, before he joined GBNews. Sound guy.

    I also suspect Prince Philip was hastened to the grave by getting vaccinated. We knew he had heart problems anyway, but that micro-clotting may have been the last straw.

    For that young kid, that’s really sad. Not many autopsies have been done for victims of the virus or the vaccine. I wonder if they’ll do one here?

  46. E.M.Smith says:


    Interesting chip analysis, and I mostly agree with it all. They have their facts right.

    One nit to harvest:

    Some folks get breathlessly wrapped around the axle about “cutting edge chip” and the article mentions them several times. My answer is “So what.”

    Did cars work 10 years ago? 5? Did airplanes fly? Did we have cell phones? Did computers compute? ( I’m still using a few that are nearing 20 years old…)

    NOTHING prevents us making the devices that work using the last generation chips instead of the next generation chips.

    Yes, in the long run, to have a place in the future growth of the industry, you need to be advancing your production methods. But that largely comes out of the tool making part, not the foundry part. The foundry just buys the new tooling every 5 years or so.

    The process of making chips is not particularly hard. The photolithograpy is in principle the same idea as used by hobbyists to make their own PC Boards. Just larger masks, shorter wavelength light sources, and different etchants. Clean room tech and exposure to dopants has not changed much.

    IMHO, a large part of what fueled the move to Fabless was local laws. Phosphine and Arsine gasses are very toxic. California made it a royal PITA to have big vats of those on property.

    Here’s what was going on in 1987 when Fab in Silicon Valley was large:


    A new report has warned that the high-technology area south of here is not prepared for a ”catastrophe” that could result from a major release of highly toxic gases in an earthquake, fire or traffic accident.

    The report by researchers at San Jose State University said materials used in the manufacture of silicon chips could menace the health of people within a dozen miles of a plant in the event of an accident or a natural disaster.

    A major concern is over the release of arsine, a highly poisonous, inflammable gas that is stored by manufacturers of computer chips. The gas destroys red blood cells and is fatal within a short time of exposure in very high concentrations, the researchers say.

    The report found that five companies in the electronics valley 50 miles south of here stored enough arsine to endanger the health of people within a 12.5-mile radius if they breathed the gas for several hours in the event of a major release of arsine into the atmosphere.

    ”We drew circles out from the storage sites and they covered virtually the entire valley,”
    said Dr. Kenneth P. MacKay, a professor of meteorology at the university who helped write the report.

    The five companies listed in the report are Raytheon in Mountain View, Advanced Micro Devices in Sunnyvale, Exel in San Jose and Precision Monoliths and Epitaxy, both in Santa Clara.

    Eight other plants store arsine in quantities that could affect people within a six-mile radius of a leak, said the report, which based its calculations on the Environmental Protection Agency’s air pollution dispersion models.

    They are Xerox and General Instruments, both in Palo Alto; Data General, Advanced Micro Devices and two plants of Signetics, all in Sunnyvale; and Intel and National Semiconductor in Santa Clara.

    The report was prepared for for the Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition, which is made up of environmental groups and labor unions in the area that are seeking to reduce the use of hazardous chemicals in the workplace.

    Toxic gases such as arsine and phosphine are added to pure silicon, a derivative of sand, to give the semiconductor chips their electrical properties. They are normally stored in compressed gas cylinders.

    The Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition plans to use the report to support its arguments in favor of specially designed containment buildings for storing the toxic gases, neighborhood emergency warning systems in case a leak occurs and requirements that companies develop computer models to show how leaking gas would be dispersed.

    ”We’ve allowed this industry to grow up in residential neighborhoods,” said Theodore G. Smith, the coalition’s chairman, who is a lawyer in nearby San Jose. ”Now we are held hostage to these gases.”

    The issues are being raised now because the Santa Clara County Fire Chief’s Association is drafting a model ordinance to regulate the storage and handling of toxic gases in the valley.

    Steven W. Pedersen, the director of Environmental Affairs for the Semiconductor Industry Association, a trade group representing about 50 companies in the valley, said that many companies already complied with standards being devised for the national Uniform Fire Code regarding the handling of toxic materials.

    Guess what you do when your company is in the news as a threat to the entire population of the valley. Yup, you move your fab elsewhere or contract it out. (And “planning commissions” become reluctant to issue permits too…)


    Interesting thought on Philip…

  47. The True Nolan says:

    @EM: “Here’s what was going on in 1987 when Fab in Silicon Valley was large:”

    I was working for National Semiconductor in 1987 and spending a lot of time out in Silicon Valley. NSC was, at the time, one of if not THE largest manufacturer of chips in the world, with literally square block after square block after square block of manufacturing buildings. Every time I think about the current dependence of the US on overseas sources for electronics, I see all those buildings, all that equipment, and all those jobs that used to be here.

  48. The True Nolan says:

    Having a bad day? Don’t fret. Someone has it worse… :)

  49. E.M.Smith says:


    Interesting… I was a production planner for NSC in about 1977 or so… Linear chips. Most of my fab/assembly was in overseas locations (various Asian countries). I think we made the wafers in Silicon Valley and shipped them overseas for final die mount, wire attach and packaging in the fab there.

    All the Mil-Spec stuff was SEM inspected and assembled in silicon valley. I think it was a contract requirement at the time. IIRC the guys doing digital chips had more domestic fab.

    Folks tend to forget about analog chips, but they are very important. Amplifiers, power regulators, radio chips, etc. Most of your “digital equipment” has some essential analog parts in them.

  50. Steve C says:

    @Simon – Point taken about Neil’s self deprecation, but as well to mention for those who don’t already know him that he’s a lot more than just that. Coincidentally, I’m reading one of his books at the moment, The Story of the British Isles in 100 Places – with only 400 pages there’s only room for a reflection on each one, but his love of the country fairly radiates from every page.

    Good point about ‘Phil the Greek’ – I think a lot of us were waiting to see whether he’d get a telegram from Her Majesty on turning 100, like the rest of us, and now we’ll never know. He was also the patron of the Radio Socirty of GB, of which I passed 50 years’ membership on Sept 2nd, so I mourn his passing on that account too.

    As for young Dylan, I wonder whether we’ll hear anything if they do autopsy him. If he was vaccinated, he wouldn’t be the first sporting person to be hit by it, but he’d surely be one of the youngest.

    @E.M. – Thanks for the info on links. I normally try to keep the count down, but useful to know.

  51. E.M.Smith says:

    @Steve C: You are most welcome.


    How I’m feeling about now:

  52. another ian says:

    One way of looking at it


    E.M. I got a bit vocal back there but they just kept showing up

  53. jim2 says:

    Wendy Rogers
    Sep 5
    The audit is coming guys, I promise you. I get a lot of comments asking and people think I can speed it up but I can’t speed it up. It is a process and it is coming. Also – other information is coming out I can’t disclose. Just know that it is all going to happen and this (1/2)

  54. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh My… our PotusSino In Waiting has a laugh issue:

  55. Ossqss says:

    Just got my alert. This may be trouble in that location. Yikes!


  56. H.R. says:

    YIKES! indeed! That sounds like trouble.

    A 7.0 in Acapulco? Are their earthquake-proofing building codes up to snuff?

  57. E.M.Smith says:

    A 7 is damaging even if your building codes are good. I was in the Loma Prieta quake and it knocked houses off foundations and dropped double decker freeway segments. Apartments built over parking garage areas tended to fall in (S.F. Marina fire…) and power was out over a large area.

    I expect it will be a lot worse in Mexico as I think they use a lot more unreinforced masonry.

    NYT says 1.6 million without power. It will take a while to get good reports out.

    FWIW it also says “off the coast” which ought to mean less land damage but a risk of tsunami damage.

  58. Ossqss says:

    Liquification of the ground could be an issue also @EM. I did not check their geologic composition. My first check on Google Lat/Long put this in the center of a city N of the big city. Albeit, 8 miles or so from the big city with high rise domains. Upon 2nd check an hour later, it moved. I don’t expect their building codes were better until construction after the last problem.

  59. H.R. says:

    @Ossqss re their building codes – I asked, because I was vaguely recalling a prior quake where a lot needed to be rebuilt. I think Mexico City also experienced much the same.

    So yeah, some buildings might have held up, but I don’t think it will be a lot of them. And then there’s the corruption factor where officials get paid to look the other way as a building goes up.

    We should get a good idea of the extent of the damage today.

  60. jim2 says:

    Last year, three cryptocurrency enthusiasts bought a cruise ship. They named it the Satoshi, and dreamed of starting a floating libertarian utopia. It didn’t work out
    by Sophie Elmhirst
    Tue 7 Sep 2021 01.00 EDT

    Last modified on Wed 8 Sep 2021 09.23 EDT

    On the evening of 7 December 2010, in a hushed San Francisco auditorium, former Google engineer Patri Friedman sketched out the future of humanity. The event was hosted by the Thiel Foundation, established four years earlier by the arch-libertarian PayPal founder Peter Thiel to “defend and promote freedom in all its dimensions”. From behind a large lectern, Friedman – grandson of Milton Friedman, one of the most influential free-market economists of the last century – laid out his plan. He wanted to transform how and where we live, to abandon life on land and all our decrepit assumptions about the nature of society. He wanted, quite simply, to start a new city in the middle of the ocean.


  61. H.R. says:

    @jim2 – Thanks! The Satoshi reminded me of the luxury cruise ship owned by 165 residents.

    I saw ads for units aboard the ship years ago, before it was even finished and launched. It is strictly high end for wealthy people. There were wrinkles and I never followed up over the years if it all worked out. It seems it finally did, though it looked like it all might fall through early on.

    Here’s a link to .The World I wish I had that kind of spare cash…


    @E.M. – Are you sure you really want an RV? You said you really enjoyed living aboard a boat. 😜

  62. jim2 says:

    BREAKING: Violent White Liberals Assault Larry Elder – Hurl Eggs at GOP Candidate — BEAT HIS CAMPAIGN OFFICIAL IN STREET! (VIDEO)


  63. The True Nolan says:

    Here is a very interesting speech concerning the economic implications of the COVID shutdown:

    From the article:
    “Paraphrasing Carl von Clausewitz: War is the realm of uncertainty; the factors on which action in war is based are wrapped in a fog of uncertainty. Fog and friction cloud the commander’s judgment—even where the commander wholly shares our interests, which is hardly a given with Covid. When we declared war on a virus, clarity went out the window. And so we’ve lived with 16 months of fog, of Covid misinformation. This happens in tandem with the media, which parrot official pronouncements from sources like the deeply-compromised Fauci and stir up alarmism at every turn.

    And we’re still living with it. Consider we still don’t have definitive answers to these simple questions:

    Do masks really work?
    Do kids really need masks? As an aside, our great friend Richard Rider reports that San Diego County– population 3.3 million– shut down its public schools for a year with one student death!
    Is there asymptomatic spread?
    Does the virus live on surfaces?
    How long does immunity last after having Covid?
    How many vaccines will someone need to be “fully” vaccinated? How many boosters? Annual?
    Aren’t Delta and other variants simply the predictable evolution of any virus?
    How do we define a “case” or infection if someone shows no symptoms and feels fine?
    Can Covid really be eradicated like polio? If so, why haven’t we eradicated flu by now?

    And so on. We never get clear answers, but only fog.”


    “I can’t stress this enough: millions of Americans have no conception of economics, and simply don’t believe tradeoffs exist. They think, are are encouraged by the political class to think, that government can simply print money in the form of stimulus bills and pay people enhanced unemployment benefits to stay home. That the CDC, of all cockamamie federal agencies, can simply impose a rent moratorium and effectively vitiate millions of local contracts—it will just work itself out somehow. That Congress can simply issue forgivable PPP loans to closed or hobbled businesses so they can magically make payroll. That the Federal Reserve can simply buy up assets from commercial banks, lend them limitless funds, and command lower interest rates to stimulate housing and consumerism.

    Millions of Americans, through sheer ignorance of economics, literally think these actions are costless and wholly beneficial- without downside.”

  64. H.R. says:

    @jim2 re Larry Elder- So… the FBI is bored and has nothing better to do?

    I suppose the Fan Belt Inspectors can expense those eggs they threw. Someone in D.C. will approve it.

    I am willing to bet some bit of hard cash that there are enough white, fed-up voters in California who would like to see Larry Elder win that you couldn’t find even one who is willing to throw an egg at Mr. Elder.

    The white woman in the monkey mask throwing eggs was an FBI false flag imported from… what…. Timbuktu? Washington D.C.?

  65. The True Nolan says:

    @jim2: “Violent White Liberals Assault Larry Elder”

    Disgusting — but totally expected. I am concerned that the days of peaceful discussion are simply no longer possible, and it was not the conservative side that brought us to this point.

  66. H.R. says:

    @TTN – “Disgusting…”

    Worse. Evil. Evil exists. Believe it.

    Do your best to stamp out evil when confronted by it. Otherwise, live your life around it or, as best you can, without it.

  67. jim2 says:

    H.R. says:
    9 September 2021 at 1:29 am

    @jim2 re Larry Elder- So… the FBI is bored and has nothing better to do?

    Good one, HR! It seems the FBI’s job now is to harass conservatives. So, nope, they ARE on the job.

  68. jim2 says:

    HR – I’m willing to bet there are some Hispanic and Black voters that would joyfully welcome Elder to the governorship.

  69. E.M.Smith says:


    Living aboard an RV has most of the advantages of a boat and a lot less of the disadvantages. When I really want to be on the water, I can always get on a boat. (Nothing says I can’t have both ;-)

    Problems of boats not RVs (inexhaustive):

    RVs have leveling jacks.
    RVs do not rock and sway all night long.
    RVs do not have the “Ding Ding Ding:” of halyards banging aluminum masts all night long.
    RVs do not need bottom scrapping every year and periodic haulouts for bottom paint.
    RVs do not have near infinite water just a couple of feet away so are not mold farms…
    RVs do not need the services of a constant dehumidfier.
    RVs do not have a near infinite heat sink under their uninsulated bottom all winter long.
    RVs do not have a poorly sealed wooden hatch to keep all the rain out. A hatch you MUST enter through…
    RVs have awnings.
    RVs can have a BBQ and lawn chairs next to them.
    RVs cost a WHOLE LOT LESS per month to park (i.e. few marinas many RV parks and BLM land)
    RV Parks LIKE “live aboards” while most marinas forbid them.
    RVs are HUGE for the dollar compared to a boat.

    and many more…

    Much of what i like about the lifestyle is in common to both. What I really like about a boat, that only a boat can provide, can be had on a few days a month, when the weather is nice, and without needing to secure everything in the “house” before you can think about sailing.

  70. E.M.Smith says:

    Per Elder:

    Best Optics we could ask for. A polite and respected professional Black Man being harasses by White Liberals in the classical DNC – KKK -Jim Bird mold.

    That’s got to burn in the soul of Blacks and Hispanics throughout the State. Their turnout just got a LOT larger.

    FWIW, My Vote is now FIRMLY for Elder. So is the spouse.

    BTW, thanks to geolocation, you folks have likely not seen the ads for Neusance. He’s running adds PROMOTING masks and shutdown and lockups, er, lockdowns and saying if you don’t vote for him, you will get a Republican who will stop the mandates and put you at RISK by letting you have your life back… One of the STUPIDEST ads I’ve ever seen.

    It is ALL FUD – Fear Uncertainty and Doubt and proposes that ONLY the Great And Wise Neusance can save you from Covid and the evil Trump Republican.

    They have got to be bat shit crazy about Elder as all the ads are targeting and dissing him. And the ads play constantly on EwTube (and some other places). Yet when I watch the ads, I think “Hey, he’s RIGHT! That IS the guy I want! Elder! He’ll dump vaccine mandates and return to individual responsibility and judgement! He’ll end the draconian StaSi Regime. (State Socialist…)

    Oh Well… only 5 more days of it…

  71. President Elect H.R. says:

    @jim2 – I just looked at my comment from upside down, and you’re absolutely right. The Fan Belt Inspectors are actually on the job.

    P.S. If someone is really, really, really incompetent, isn’t that some sort of competency; being highly competent at being incompetent?

  72. another ian says:

    China economics



  73. H.R. says:

    @E.M. – Yah, but… does your RV have a 2,000 square foot suite with its own plunge pool?. Oh sure, you’d have to share that boat with 164 other people, but it’s a nice boat 😜

  74. H.R. says:

    Oh, and I wasn’t talking about just any boat, E.M.. I was talking about THAT boat, The World.

    The 3 bedroom suites are *ahem* nice.

    And do note they don’t mention prices. If you have to ask “How much?” you can’t afford it. Lessee… a 1/165 share of ownership in a cruise liner and a staff of – I’m guessing – 200+ will set you back at least a couple of week’s salary, or maybe even more.

  75. cdquarles says:

    There is a quote in “Atlas Shrugged” that goes: “To do nothing is to do something”, so yes, to be really incompetent means that you are competent at being incompetent ;p.

  76. jim2 says:

    Heather Mullins from Real Americas Voice broke this news earlier this month on the John Fredericks radio show. There is video that captures 240 ballot traffickers in Georgia. Each of the traffickers averaged 23-24 drops where they would empty backpacks into the ballot boxes. This is completely illegal. No harvesting is allowed in Georgia.

    TRENDING: BREAKING – HUGE: Results of Canvassing in Arizona Released – ELECTION STEAL IS NOW CONFIRMED

    This was a massive organized effort by the American left to commit fraud.

    Catherine Engelbrecht and True the Vote are behind this investigation and it involves SEVERAL STATES.


  77. p.g.sharrow says:

    Liberal – Progressives, Modern Democrats, are doing everything that they can to destroy their credibility with the voters because of their contempt of them.. The Deep State has control of the vote count and they no longer fear the voters wrath. That said, they greatly fear the Patriots efforts to end that control thru investigations of that fraud and publishing their findings. This effort marks all the traitors by their own actions and words. Conservatives are by their nature very quiet and accommodating and loath kicking over the cart, BUT, now WAR has been declared on them and their backs are to the wall. There will be no place to hide because socialists will make sure of it! It is us or them. There can be no accommodation with them, no compromise. At this point they think that they have won their revolution are out to eradicate all opposition.

    Bad move ! Real Conservatives will not back down and very soon no longer quiet. ..pg

  78. jim2 says:

    Chinese-backed accounts promoted the narratives of systemic racism, coronavirus fears and anti-Trump sentiments. In addition, some COVID misinformation in Russian and German language posts were found to be written by nonnative speakers of those languages.

    The accounts were found to be interconnected in the sense they posted similar content, and in many cases identical messaging. It was also reported the accounts engaged in coordinated sharing across 30 social media platforms and over 40 other websites and online forums.

    A misinformation campaign on social media in support of Chinese government interests has expanded to new languages and platforms, and it even tried to get people to show up to protests in the United States, researchers at FireEye and Google said https://t.co/YMYnKFk3bU pic.twitter.com/IoBNx83ioy

    — Reuters Tech News (@ReutersTech) September 8, 2021

    The FireEye report suggested China drove division between the U.S., Europe and Russia. Additionally, it sought to motivate real world activity in those countries.


  79. E.M.Smith says:


    One of the things I do when setting up a “Security Appliance” at a site is “Geo-Blocking”. Many nations, prime among them China, simply have ALL IP ADDRESSES BLOCKED.

    IMHO, absent some peculiar need at a site, there is ZERO benefit and a great deal of harm in allowing ANY IP traffic to Chinese addresses. So I don’t.

    For a HIPPA Client I went even further. There was a known list of needed countries (USA, Ireland, UK, and a couple of others where a particular vendor was located) and ALL others were blocked. Then we let it run for a week while I’d “allow” new countries as we found out some bit of software or other was from there. In the end, it was on the order of “between 1/2 dozen and a dozen” countries. Total.

    China? Just say no.

    I think that policy needs to be adopted by “Social Media” sites too.


    As I’ve said before “I’m not there yet, but I can see it from here.”

    I’m in the “Hunker down and prep” stage. Decision time for “pick a side” is over. All that’s left is deciding on a “trigger event”. Don’t particularly want to do anything but enjoy my retirement drinking beer on a beach and fishing… but if I’m prevented from doing that, well, a fella needs a hobby…

    I’ve signed up with a Free Speech video platform, but I need to buy a Go Pro or similar and learn how to do “Educational Videos” prepping for “For The Cause” videos…

    Imagine a fantasy future…

    “This is Video Free America broadcasting from our Mobile Pirate RV Station somewhere in the Continental USA bringing news and methods for Patriots everywhere…”


    I’ve usually said that as “No decision IS a decision” when I was having trouble getting folks to make a decision… usually followed shortly by my saying “OK, then we’re doing THIS”… and take the decision away from them. Oddly, most folks were happier when someone else took the decision away from them…

    Sometimes, someone would pipe up and say “But that’s not as good as FOO!” and I’d say “OK, then we’re doing FOO” and then the next person would say “But BAR fixes this…” and after a bit of discussion the actual best decision would be made… It was a tactic I’d use in staff meetings when everyone was just being “don’t call on me”… Just plop a “decision” on the table and say “Anyone have a better idea?”. Sometime I’d put a really bad “decision” on the table just to get things going ;-) IF “the decision” was more uncomfortable than speaking up, folks would start to speak up ;-)


    One hopes we actually see some results and some response to the results. I’ll go take a look… but I’m getting very jaded that the “Proper Channels” will do anything other than posture and preen.


    One can always park the RV for 2 weeks to go on the Monster Barge Resort w/ Bar…

    I thought I mentioned the idea of a “sometimes boat” + RV instead of a “Always boat into which you pour money for 52 weeks to use it for 2″…

  80. Steve C says:

    @jim2: “Violent White Liberals Assault Larry Elder”

    Natural News, January 13:
    “WARNING: FBI planning fake false flag “armed protests” that will be blamed on conservatives and used to go after gun rights”

    Information Liberation, Sept 2:
    “DHS: White Americans Support The Taliban And Are Poised to Carry Out Terror Attacks At Any Moment”

    Funny how so many “conspiracy theories” keep coming true these days.

  81. E.M.Smith says:

    Who supports the Taliban? Not “Conservative Americans”.

    Obama gave them their leadership back from Gitmo.
    Biden gave them an Air Force and equipped their army.

    Tell me again why any Conservative American would be on that team?

    Anything like that happens, it is clearly and obviously a False Flag Fraud.

  82. another ian says:

    “Bizarre: Early samples from Wuhan patients also have bits of Influenza, Nipah, Leukemia, HIV”


  83. another ian says:

    You trust the experts then?

    “How confident are infectious disease “experts” in the efficacy of the vaccines that they themselves have taken? Not very.

    Most of them still won’t go to a movie, eat at a restaurant, or let their vaccinated kid go to school without a muzzle, half won’t even go to an outdoor sporting event or concert.”


  84. jim2 says:

    Wife just got a new T shirt: The Final Variant is Communism.

  85. H.R. says:

    Oh, very good, jim2.

    I made a joke somewhere about the ‘omega’ variant, but yeah… after that comes communism.

  86. another ian says:

    Re @Another Ian above

    A good reason they should stay away from us!

  87. H.R. says:

    I just saw a clip of Biden announcing that they were *ahem* mandating that employers of 100 or more require vaccines.

    HA! That’s, thankfully, recognition that the US Febrile Gubbmint can’t Constitually mandate that everyone be vaccinated. They are pressuring employers to do the dirty work.

    But as has been posted about here previously on E.M.’s blog, employers are in a bind. If they mandate vaccines as a condition of employment, they put themselves in legal peril.

    I do not know for sure what will happen. Just as most people have made up their minds whether or not to get jabbed, I think most companies have had enough and don’t want to deal with all of the B.S. They stand to get sued no matter which way they jump.

    So I am waiting to see the reaction from businesses. Some will say “Screw it! We’re not playing.” Others will comply, and with luck, to their regret.

    I’m just waiting to see the proportion of “Stuff it!” companies to “Thank you sir, may I have another!” companies.

    Gonna be interesting.

  88. cdquarles says:

    We are living in F word times, the 6 letter version, not the 4 letter one.

  89. jim2 says:

    Supposedly there is already a shortage of workers and some millennial types are quitting jobs … well … just because! Do employers REALLY want to go there? I hope not.

    While I think the Fed should stay the hell out of things COVID. Since they have gone there, anyone who tests positive on an antibody test should be treated as if vaccinated. That is a glaring omission and one I consider sinister.

  90. Terry Jackson says:

    From Sundance

    He is looking forward to the coming forced division by vaccination status and his vision of “Resist”. He is usually insightful, but no comments on the coming change in definition from 2 shots plus 2 weeks to then include as many booster doses as suits their fancy,

  91. E.M.Smith says:

    Over here:

    A discussion of the Employer Mandates broke out, and I posted 2 links to articles about it.

    The second one is about Contractors to the Feds who got hit first. The interesting bit there is that when an Employer mandates the Vexxine, any adverse reactions become OSHA reportable events (so hit the insurance bill too…) while the other one points out Biden is directing OSHA to mandate the requirement…

    Leveraging Agencies to try to give businesses some cover…

    I think it is NOW time for the Legal Side to “hit the wall”. Let a million lawsuits blossom…

    Employees need to ALL take ALL their sick leave and vacation time NOW too. Let folks feel what it will be like when they are all gone…

    Biden can NOT dictate what happens inside my body.

  92. E.M.Smith says:

    @Terry Jackson:

    That Sundance article is a good one. About what I’m thinking, but wasn’t saying.

    Someone wants to ban me from “formal” work, I’m happy to work for cash or barter “under the radar” and avoid all those taxes too ;-) I’ll just claim I’m Hispanic (which, by US Law, I am…) and don’t have the necessary “papers” (which will then also be true…)

    I’m reminded of Joubert (3 Days Of The Condor):

    Well, the fact is,
    what I do is not
    a bad occupation.
    Someone is always
    willing to pay.

    [Response deleted]

    Oh, no. It’s quite restful.

    It’s almost peaceful.
    No need to believe
    in either side or any side.

    There is no cause.
    There’s only yourself.
    The belief is in
    your own precision.

    For those who don’t know, Joubert is a paid assassin with a sense of ethics (of a certain kind…) who left the employment of A Side and let go of allegiance to his government and its mandates…

    I’m sure there will be a market for Computer Installation and Repair in the underground economy… Encrypted email, log free VPNs, burner phones, etc.

  93. David A says:

    Yes, I think bad just got a lot worse. 80 million Americans were just horribly insulted by an unelected President.
    I am concerned this could crash the unstable economy, and really throw a wrench into supply lines etc. I saw a comment that most highway snow plow drivers in the US are close to 60 and unvaccinated, as just one very small example of the many many problems that this could create as well as increasing existent problems very significantly. Perhaps the city flight will accelerate even more. The comment boards all over are lit up big time. Who said, “Never under estimate Joe’s ability to f*** things up.” ( Of course we know Joe is following directions.)

    It is sickening and raising my blood pressure. My nation is being destroyed. It is way past noble cause corruption, except for the “ useful idiots” that blindly support all things government.

    Gallows humor
    “There will be blood in the streets, clots and clots of blood” from Biden’s shot heard around the world.

  94. David A says:

    Will this break the already weak economy?
    Will supply lines problems, already bad, get far worse.
    Will it get far worse then that?
    Will the city exodus accelerate?
    Will they allow elections.
    Will the acceleration of vaccine failures turn far far worse this fall?

    An unelected President just insulted and dictated to 80 million Americans.
    ( curious that he used the number some say that actually voted for Trump.)

  95. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A:

    Your first indication will be the current election in California. Recall of Gov. Neusance is underway right now, and “mood” is to dump him. But as Pelosi’s nephew, the DNC / DCC will be wanting to use the Diddle Boxes again and seal the deal.

    So if we get Larry Elder as Gov, you know the Dems are too scared to push it. IF we are told Neusance won in a landslide, abandon all hope as they KNOW they have zero risk from stealing elections.

    My hope is that the vaccine gets and upgrade and works perfectly (as my kids and other family are fully vexxinated…)

    My fear is that I’m right. That we lose a generation+

  96. jim2 says:

    I hope you are wrong also, EMS. I haven’t been convinced the elites are trying to kill half of us off, yet. It’s not that I think it’s impossible, I don’t. I just don’t see enough evidence. I do see a lot of lying out of the various Fed agencies and other organizations. Right now I’m going with greed and noble cause corruption – along with a whooping helping of pure incompetence. That said, I’m uneasy, and watching.

  97. jim2 says:

    Evil, incompetence, or whatever … it’s all over the world.

    “Our study shows first and foremost that ivermectin has antiviral activity,” said Prof. Eli Schwartz, director of the Center for Geographic Medicine at Sheba Medical Center. “It also shows that there is almost a 100% chance that a person will be noninfectious in four to six days, which could lead to shortening isolation time for these people. This could have a huge economic and social impact.”

    News of the study appeared in The Jerusalem Post last week.

    Schwartz’s double-blind study wrapped up in January. He was interviewed in English six months ago.

    And consider that before – and since then – several other studies have shown the anti-malarial drug to be safe and effective in reducing COVID symptoms. The American Journal of Therapeutics published a study, “Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection,” which concluded that the evidence was moderate-to-certain that “large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin.”

    So why is Israel not using it?

    “There is a lot of opposition,” Schwartz said regarding his study. “We tried to publish it, and it was kicked away by three journals. No one even wanted to hear about it. You have to ask how come when the world is suffering.”

    Neither the U.S. Food and Drug Administration nor the World Health Organization have approved it.

    Several Israelis who have recovered from COVID told ALL ISRAEL NEWS that when they asked their doctors for ivermectin to treat their symptoms, they were told by the doctors they could not prescribe ivermectin nor hydroxychloroquine.


  98. E.M.Smith says:


    Given the massive evidence from several COUNTRIES using IVM to good effect, all I can figure is that key government officials in other countries have ever growing savings accounts and stock portfolios…

    FWIW, the best evidence and reason I’ve found so far also argues that Ivermectin would work well in preventing side effects from the “vaccinations” (so if EVER forced to take it, I’ll be on a double dose of IVM the day before…) and that it will help a lot IF we ever end up with ADE problems from low antibody titres as the vaccine wears off…

    Since it binds to both the spike protein and the ACE 2 receptor, and doesn’t care about variations, it ought to work regardless of antibody levels and Original Antigenic Sin and more.

    Should I get a call that one of my kids is having “issues” as their vaccination wears off, I’m taking a jug and hopping in the car…

  99. AC Osborn says:

    EM, would a vaccine even work with Ivermectin in your system?

  100. H.R. says:

    @AC Osborn – I thought about that only a little, but now that you bring it up again…

    If I ever get the jab – at gunpoint – I’ll load up on Ivermectin and pretend I’m treating a case of FauXi’s Flu.. I think it would negate most of the effects of the vaccine.

  101. E.M.Smith says:

    @AC Osborn:

    I think you would still make antibodies, as the “junk” is still in your body and still being found by various white blood cells who’s job is to clean up the trash. But I don’t know for sure.

    The mRNA ought to still make it into the cells. They will still make spikes. The spikes will still end up on cell surfaces and floating in the blood. But that’s where it changes.

    IVM will bind to ACE-2 receptors preventing spike entry into other cells. It will bind to free floating spike protein in the blood, preventing them from damaging other cells or organs, and I’d expect, also preventing binding to red blood cells to cause clotting and such. IVM will also bind to the spike proteins on the surface of cells that are creating and presenting them. That ought to also prevent damage from the spike to passing blood cells.

    So I’m pretty sure it will have broad protective effects.

    Then next it is where you take a leap:

    I do not know if the combined spike protein / IVM complex presents to the immune system in such a way as to create antibodies, or if it just looks like trash for the macrophages to clean up.

    I did see a Dr.Been video which, IIRC, said IVM does not interfere with the vaccine. That you ought to still get antibodies. But I don’t remember if there were any measurements or if it was just “directed conjecture” based on professional opinion.

    As the “protection” seems to be 6 months or so at most, I’m happy with just the binding up of the active ends of the spike proteins…


    “At gunpoint”… You and me both… Though from the looks of it they are going for the Economic Big Guns. Expect all sorts of crap to be thrown at folks, in the legal system and financial. Me? I’m waiting at least 6 months from now even WITH “guns pointed at me”, as that’s about when it would be painfully obvious that everywhere is failing… (Or that it’s OK after all and I’ll take the shot…)

    There’s also a new vaccine in approval process that I’m liking. (So Far). It does not recruit your cells to make spike protein… More on that in a posting “soon” ;-)

  102. The True Nolan says:

    @David A: “Will they allow elections.”

    Of course they will allow elections, but only for the socially responsible cohort. Naturally, you’ll have to have your vaccination card (and a photo ID) to prove you are not one of the unvaxxed…
    (end sarc/)

    @EM: “Should I get a call that one of my kids is having “issues” as their vaccination wears off, I’m taking a jug and hopping in the car…”

    Good to have that extra jug. Maybe for neighbors as well. But if it ever comes to that, kids get priority; it’s not their fault. Old folks not so much. (I hope it never comes to that — but I am adjusting my attitude beforehand just in case.)

  103. H.R. says:

    E.M.: “There’s also a new vaccine in approval process that I’m liking. (So Far). It does not recruit your cells to make spike protein… More on that in a posting “soon” ;-)”

    I just caught a brief something about the new vaccine today. I believe it’s a vaccine and not a ‘vaccine’.

    It’s awaiting FDA approval. My guess it that the FDA will make them go through the whole rigmarol if FauXi & Friends don’t have a stake in it.

    Also, if the GEBs are intentionally setting us up to cull the herd, this vaccine won’t get approved if it’s “not with the program” and is actually very good with few negative side effects.

    Just learning more about this vaccine will answer a lot of other questions pointing to political aspects.

  104. The True Nolan says:

    @HR: “Also, if the GEBs are intentionally setting us up to cull the herd, this vaccine won’t get approved if it’s “not with the program” and is actually very good with few negative side effects.”

    Good point — although the question of long term side effects will linger until some long term has passed. Still, if the new product is sufficiently similar to previous shown-to-be-safe vaccines, that would be a VERY encouraging factor. (Of course there would still be the ethical issue if it were deemed mandatory.)

  105. jim2 says:

    Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) went after social media companies who have banned users with conservative views. On Thursday, the governor signed a bill to forbid social media companies with more than 50 million monthly users to ban content based on their political stances.

    The law has directed social media sites to issue a complaint on any potentially violating or illegal content and give reason for why such content was removed. This would offer individuals and state attorneys the right to file lawsuits if they felt they were wrongfully banned from such platforms.

    “Freedom of speech is under attack in Texas. There is a dangerous movement by some social media companies to silence conservative ideas and values,” Abbott asserted. “This is wrong and we will not allow it in Texas. Today, I’m about to sign a law that fights against Big Tech political censorship. ”


  106. E.M.Smith says:


    Hmmm… I got family in Texas… (Well, by marriage anyway… so I’m sorta kinda a Texan… by marriage anyway…) maybe Texas has a certain charm instead of Florida.

    Texas has ports on the gulf, right? I could still sail the Carrib…

    Decisions decisions 8-)

  107. another ian says:

    “Are Mr. Biden’s demands a Trojan horse, to expose dissenters and compile a “hit list”?”


  108. jim2 says:

    EMS – the property taxes are pretty stiff in Texas, which also has a sales tax. No income tax though.

  109. jim2 says:

    Ariz. audit nearing completion despite setbacks

    OAN Newsroom
    UPDATED 8:19 PM PT – Friday, September 10, 2021

    The Arizona audit is starting to come to a close, even after many of the auditors caught cases of COVID. One America’s Christina Bobb has more.


  110. H.R. says:

    @E.M. – I have relatives down in Port Lavaca. Not a bad place to be, unless the eye of a hurricane like Carla happens to pass through.

    I was visiting after that hurricane went through. It killed most all of the rattlesnakes. Darn! (Kid’s viewpoint.)

  111. Compu Gator says:

    True Nolan commented on 1 September 2021 at 9:14 pm UTC [*]:

    This maybe should be better placed at the W.O.O.D. topic

    So voila!  Here we are!

    [A YouTube] commenter, “Patriot Nurse” makes a good reminder that we citizens still have TWO Constitutional, non-violent courses of action — a Constitutional Convention and secession.

    E.M.Smith commented on 1 September 2021 at 11:26 pm UTC [**]:

    Is there any way to forcibly eject a few States?  “Involuntary Succession”? Say New England and the West Coast[?]

    Silly  SemiBritish Californian!  It’s “secession”.  Arguably being a Southron myself [❎], I just couldn’t let it slip by without correction.

    True Nolan commented on 2 September 2021 at 12:05 am UTC [***]:

    I wanted a tee shirt with a picture of the US, but with the north-eastern quarter detached and moved slightly off from the rest. The caption would be “I support Northern secession”.

    I’d probably buy 1 if it had some artistic merit (i.e., not just text: borrring!), and presented it on the front instead of the back of the shirt.

    But my primary reason for commenting is to alert readers to the self-righteous Yankee-dominated historians who devise courses in U.S. History, and who have habitually omitted the real historic attempt at Northern secession: the Hartford Convention of 2 centuries ago: 1814–1815 [❄] [❄❄]:

    The convention was controversial at the time, and many historians consider it a contributing factor to the downfall of the Federalist Party. There are many reasons for this, not least of which was the proposed idea of New England, the Federalist’s main base, seceding from the union and creating a new country.

    Secession was again mentioned in 1814–1815; all but one leading Federalist newspaper in New England supported a plan to expel the western states from the Union. Otis, the key leader of the Convention, blocked radical proposals such as a seizure of the Federal customs house, impounding federal funds, or declaring neutrality. Otis thought the Madison administration was near collapse and that unless conservatives like himself and the other delegates took charge, the radical secessionists might take power. Indeed, Otis was unaware that Massachusetts Governor Strong had already sent a secret mission to discuss terms with the British for a separate peace.[[Wikip.] 5]:362–370[[Wikip.] 2]:48

    Hey-ell, during the concurrent War of 1812, New Englanders were smuggling supplies to the British military units fighting the U.S.A. on our own side of the Pond.

    Perhaps the omissions–I suspect deletions–were made during W.W. I or W.W. II, in support of our alliances with the British.

    Now in the 21st Century, there should be no doubt that at least New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania need to be added to an “Involuntary [Secession]”.

    Note * :  https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/08/30/chinese-wuhan-covid-autopsy-results-its-the-lungs/#comment-149799.

    Note ** :  https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/08/30/chinese-wuhan-covid-autopsy-results-its-the-lungs/#comment-149809.

    Note ❎ :  Never having looked it up before, I never knew that “Southrons” (pron. -rŭnz) is originally Scot, a reference to the inhabitants south of them on the island Britannia [🇬🇧]: the expansionist English!  (Alt. newfangled ref-mk. for this note: ‘ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 ’.)

    Note 🇬🇧 :  Confirmation mostly for my failing memory: ‘Twarn’t “Great” Britain until 1706 or 1707, depending on which of 3 events an historian counts as the key event :  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Union_1707. So the succession of James VI of Scotland to the English throne as J. I, in 1602/1603, didn’t do it.

    Note *** :  https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/08/30/chinese-wuhan-covid-autopsy-results-its-the-lungs/#comment-149813.

    Note ❄ : E.g.:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Convention.

    Note ❄❄ : E.g.:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Convention#Secession.

  112. another ian says:


    “people seem worried and depressed post biden speech. don’t be.

    last night was biden losing. it was his reign of terror ending. it was a tepid, angry, bitter speech in which true colors were shown and nothing was gained. biden was the angry grandpa 5 drinks in at thanksgiving dinner talking about how the damn beatniks and minorities were ruining america.

    and everyone heard it.


  113. another ian says:

    Also FWIW

    “An Articulate Nurse Dealing With COVID Hospitalization Gives Honest Insight About What Really is Happening – Alarming Secondary Confirmation of Details Provided and Cited
    September 11, 2021 | Sundance | 171 Comments”


    Must be pretty bad when you can’t talk about it

  114. another ian says:

    And “You’re not supposed to look at it this way”

    “If CO2 mattered, the UN would prefer Australian coal”


  115. another ian says:

    “Pinkerton: Five Hard Lessons from America’s 20-Year Journey Since 9/11”


    Will need a large dollop of this IMO

    R.V. Jones “Most Secret War” P 32

    “He warned us that if another war broke out there would be a disastrous period for six months while those who had reached high positions on inadequate abilities in peacetime would have to be replaced”

  116. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    That’s a pretty good article.

    I did find this bit something of a chuckle:

    But okay, enough of polls, what do ordinary people think? What do they themselves say in their own words? The New York Times interviewed some regular folks in Hacienda Heights, California, including Brenda Ortiz, who said of the Afghan war, “I don’t think it was ever going to be easy to leave.” And yet as she watched her kids play soccer,

    So the NYT thinks the folks of Hacienda Heights are just ordinary folk, eh?

    Noted in passing: Soccer, not American Football…

    Couple of points to ponder.


    Elevation 453 ft (138 m)

    In the coastal areas of California, being up on a hill overlooking the poor folks below is where the “better” folks like to live and where housing costs are higher… A 500 foot elevation is about ideal for that. Further up building gets harder and the commute is worse. Oh, and it has a no-build “Green Zone” assuring nobody builds around them:

    Hacienda Heights also has the Puente Hills forming its ‘green belt’ southern border and much of its western border. The highest point is Workman Hill at 1,391 feet (424 m).

    Usually takes some clout in Government to get the land around you blocked off from development.

    The racial makeup of Hacienda Heights was 38% White (12.6% Non-Hispanic White), 1.1% African American, 0.3% Native American, 39.3% Asian, 0.3% Pacific Islander, and 2.8% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 46%).

    So these typical Americans, representing ALL of the USA, per the NYT, are almost 40% Asians and 46% Hispanics, 86% total, with all of 12% non-Hispanic whites. (The other 2% being everyone else including all of 1% Blacks…)

    Hsi Lai Temple (meaning “Coming West”), a branch of Fo Guang Shan of Taiwan, is the largest Buddhist temple in North America. The temple was completed in 1988 and encompasses 15 acres (61,000 m2) and a floor area of 102,432 sq ft (9,516.2 m2). The temple’s Ming dynasty (1368–1644 AD) and Qing dynasty (1644–1911 AD) architecture is faithful to the traditional style of buildings, Chinese gardens, and statuary of ancient Chinese monasteries. Hsi Lai was built to serve as a spiritual and cultural center for Buddhism and Chinese culture.[

    So, gee, take a survey about wanting a war in a city with The Largest Buddhist Temple in North America… think that might bias toward a “no war” result?

    (Don’t get me wrong, I’m not advocating for any war. I’m against any war that can be avoided. Then again, I “connected” more with the Buddhist temples and teaching I’ve experienced than with most other religions, so there’s that… I’m just pointing out how Biased the NYT was.)


    The median household income in Hacienda Heights, CA in 2019 was $91,956, which was 12.5% greater than the median annual income of $80,440 across the entire state of California.

    California is not a low income place, and these folks are above average…

  117. rhoda klapp says:

    “‘Twarn’t “Great” Britain until 1706 or 1707, depending on which of 3 events an historian counts as the key event : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_Union_1707. So the succession of James VI of Scotland to the English throne as J. I, in 1602/1603, didn’t do it.”

    As I understand it, Britain is the island on which England, Scotland and Wales are. Great Britain is that island and the various surrounding islands, the Hebrides, the Isles of Anglesey and Wight and smaller ones. Both of these are geographical rather than political terms. The United Kingdom is a political term at first referring to the union of the crowns under James I and VI, although England and Scotland were still separate countries with their own parliaments. The Union of 1707 united the two countries. Ireland was dragged in in 1801, giving the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

  118. E.M.Smith says:


    My understanding too… though a minor nit to harvest: I think you left off Cornwall… though many might consider that a feature… especially if certain Royalty went with it. ;-)

    While many consider it just a county of England, others think of it as a Celtic Nation with a national language… Yes, I know, political not geographic…

  119. another ian says:

    From a comment string at Jo Nova

    “US media labled elder as the black face of white supremacy that’s how morally bankrupt the USA is now days”

    “Does that make Biden the white face of Black supremacy?”

  120. H.R. says:

    @Amother Ian – It seems Alice is Editor-In-Chief of the YSM.

    She seems to be getting editorial assistance from the characters she has chanced upon. The Red Queen has to up her game. Believe only six impossible things before breakfast? The Old Girl now has to go for at least 15, and maybe more to be heard above the “Good Morning ____” news shows.

    Lewis Carrol wasn’t whimsical and nonsensical. He was prescient.

  121. Paul, Somerset says:

    “a distinct compositional border divides Cornwall and south Devon from the rest of the nation.”
    Cornwall is actually geologically distinct from the rest of the UK. That’s why Cornish sea salt sells at a premium – it contains a wider variety of minerals than sea salt from other sources.
    The last person to speak Cornish as their sole language actually died in the eighteenth century, and you certainly wouldn’t encounter it as anything more than an academic curiosity now. In fact, it’s reckoned that there are more people who understand Cornish living in London than in Cornwall itself!

  122. Ossqss says:

    Well this was certainly uplifting! NOT>


  123. Terry Jackson says:

    How to tank an economy for noble purpose
    Ban fertilized overnight, reduce yield.

  124. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A:

    Just found your comment ( https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/09/03/w-o-o-d-3-september-2021/#comment-150252 ) in the trash folder and retrieved it. The F-Bomb tossed it there. (I’ve fixed it). Unfortunately, I don’t check trash often…

  125. another ian says:

    Stock up if you are a tea drinker by the look of that!

  126. another ian says:

    “COVID Data, Facts Not Fear
    September 12, 2021 | Sundance | 162 Comments

    Twitter user Jason Bailey [LINK HERE] has done a deep dive into the latest CDC data on SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19). There is obviously a lot of noise amid the competing COVID narratives, as politicians and media are intent on weaponizing the fear for maximum political value. Baily provides the links and just looks at the raw data.”

    Links to data and spreadsheets for those inclined


    Click to access covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf



  127. another ian says:


    CTH from Dec 2020

    “This is mostly a repost by request. CTH accurately predicted ten months ago that through Biden the control agents would use OSHA to force vaccination requirements. It’s not prescience, it’s just a matter of knowing who is operating this and why. As requested – here is the “who”, “what, “where” and “why” they are attempting this….

    [December 2020] Why is COVID-19 being disproportionately hyped as such a dangerous threat, when the reality of the statistical danger is much less than the intense level of hype?… That is the key question.”

    More and links at


  128. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – re: “RVs do not rock and sway all night long.”

    I would put that under an advantage for the boats! I love the soft rocking of a boat at night,

  129. another ian says:

    Suprise! Suprise!



    However, the group responsible for the ivermectin non-recommendation has been discovered through a FOIA request to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention. The FOIA response shows that the working group has nine members. Three members of the working group, Adaora Adimora, Roger Bedimo, and David V. Glidden, have disclosed a financial relationship with Merck. Merck has campaigned against the use of ivermectin in COVID-19. A fourth member, Susanna Naggie, had an extraordinary potential conflict of interest. She received a $155 million grant for the study of ivermectin following the non-recommendation. Funding for the study would have been difficult to justify if the drug was recommended for use in COVID-19. It is not known, however, if the panelist was aware of that opportunity or was planning to apply for that grant at the time of the deliberations on ivermectin.

    The deception and secrecy surrounding the NIH ivermectin non-recommendation should have raised serious doubts about its integrity. The grotesque conflicts of interest of Panel members should make it clear that the NIH, as the FDA with its slandering of ivermectin as a “horse dewormer,” should not be taken seriously.



    Best response to that “horse dewormer” I’ve seen was

    “They give that to horses worth millions. The ingredients are probably better quality than in the human version”

  130. another ian says:

    “Sky News Journalist Offers to Write a Check To Anyone Who Can Decipher What The Heck Joe Biden is Saying
    September 13, 2021 | Sundance | 76 Comments”


  131. The True Nolan says:

    A nice bit of what-if-fear-porn (at least for the present) about earthquakes in the Canary Islands. The government of the Canary Islands has issued a YELLOW ALERT for a probable volcanic eruption on the Island of La Palma from the Cumbre Viejo Volcano.

    The big concern is that there MAY be a huge subsurface rockslide which would cause a tsunami. Most of you have heard that idea before, I am sure. There are historical precedents for such a thing.

  132. jim2 says:

    I find this disturbing.

    We make the argument that solving climate change is ultimately a waste management issue. Once we all agree it’s waste, then we agree that we have no choice but to clean it up. It’s not like we have not aspired to make no sewage. We have aspired that we should treat it and not put it in the rivers. In the end it comes down to how much does it cost to collect it and dispose of it. From Nori’s perspective, we want the cost of what it’s worth to buyers to always exceed the cost of collection. What we deliver is carbon removal as a service. Our hypothesis is that by building this for volunteers, we will learn a lot more quickly, and build the underlying infrastructure needed when this waste management service is in high demand. Lackner’s guess is that when it happens, the demand will occur suddenly.

    View at Medium.com

  133. philjourdan says:

    I have a new favorite Rapper, and I do not think I can name a single song of hers! https://www.foxnews.com/media/nicki-minaj-msnbc-joy-reid-vaccine-skepticism

    I am impressed that she not only can think and reason, but can research. I suspect Joyless Reid will not be having any response. She just got owned!

  134. H.R. says:

    jim2 found this: “Once we all agree it’s waste, then we agree that we have no choice but to clean it up.”

    Presuming a fact not in evidence, methinks. Who says it’s waste? No, we can’t all agree CO2 is waste. We are carbon-based lifeforms and depend on CO2 as fart of the cycle of life. We could use quite a bit more of it to help the remaining plants when the next glaciation occurs.

    What?!? The oceans will boil away and there will be no “next glaciation?” Anyone who thinks that has not been paying attention, starting with the ice core data and then having a look at the geological record.

    (With luck, we’ll get the giant Mr. Fusion hair dryer up and running so we can melt the next glaciation as it is occurring.)

  135. rhoda klapp says:

    Is that a typo? As it’s HR, I can’t tell.

  136. The True Nolan says:

    I suppose this MIGHT have gone into the Friends of Australia thread — but technically it should be here.

    You know how people often refer to the movie “Idiocracy” as a documentary? Here’s a documentary about Australia.

  137. H.R. says:

    Typo, Rhoda? Given the idiot in the article that jim2 found, it shouldn’t have been a typo. It does fit right in there, eh?

    OK. It was fairly early in the morning and I hadn’t even started on a cup of coffee, so I can only wish I was that brilliant while still half asleep. Sadly, no. But it was a great typo for that bozo.

  138. Steve C says:

    E.M. – May I ask for a teensy weensy bit of tech advice here? With all your experience of small board computers, you have to be well practiced in SD cards. I have one (‘Integral’ brand, 32GB) which has been used in my digital sound recorder (Tascam DR-40). It has gone “read-only” to the extent that not even the standard Diskpart process retrieves it. It’s not an old card: the use in the recorder was its first use from new, and it’s less than half full. Any suggestions to save it from the Enraged User 3-lb Club Hammer treatment?

  139. another ian says:

    “Never before in history has there been a need to “protect the vaccinated.”

    There isn’t one now unless the jabs not only don’t work, in some percentage of people who took them they make infection worse — and they know it.”

    More at


  140. Ossqss says:

    SteveC, make sure the write protect little switch (lock) is not in protect position. They do go bad and or get corrupt. They are also pretty cheap now days for basic use. Well under $10 for a 32 gig chip.

  141. E.M.Smith says:

    @Steve C:

    Some cards and sticks “do that” (and even think it a feature…).

    I bought a 128 GB SanDisk stick only to have it “brick” on first format. That’s where I found they think it a ‘feature’ to protect you from a bad “write” system to brick the device in “Read Only” so you can pull your data off before the device can “break”…

    So I’ve never EVER bought another San Disk device since…

    So didn’t say if it was an SD or micro SD (well, really, you said SD, but sometimes uSD is called that in haste..). As Ossqss said: SD cards have a “write protect tab”, so make sure that’s in the correct postion. (uSD does not, but the SD adapters for them do).

    IF really bricked in “Read Only” all you can do is suck the data off to a new device and toss the old one into your “Involuntary backups” pile. At least that was my experience with the SanDisk. Oh, and never buy one of that brand again… (I’d only heard of this as a SanDisk “feature” and now a “Integral” one… so the others ought not do it.)

    FWIW I’ve really liked my Samsung cards. The 32 GB uSD (with SD adapter) currently running $8.

  142. David A says:

    Another Ian, good article as usual from that source.
    Scotland numbers for most of August. –
    98 vaccinated dead vs 25 not vaccinated.

    More reports of vaccinated deaths happening quickly in rapid crash, deadly following shortly.
    Many rumors of non vaccinated in hospital wards getting Covid diagnosis and moved to Covid ward on accelerated ineffective and some say deadly Covid protocols. One way to confirm such rumors would be to accurately check the ratio of non Covid hospital dead.
    If the stories are true, then the non Covid related deaths should slant abnormally high to the vaccinated.

  143. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A:

    That link gives:

    No Outside Links / Please Sign In
    Access to large images, or links from outside sites, are not permitted unless you are viewing the board. Please browse to http://tickerforum.org and select your image or file from the appropriate message.
    Thank you,

  144. jim2 says:

    Remove the ? and after and you can get to the page.

  145. Ossqss says:

    Well, it appears a Gov following the Science is doing better over the long haul.


  146. David A says:

    Ah, a study about diagnosis in hospitalized patients. Most not there for Covid but then placed in Covid category.

    So we need statistics on if this is mostly unvaccinated labeled Covid.

    EM even if link failed, those are the recent Scotland numbers over most of August.

  147. Steve C says:

    Thanks, folks, for the overnight SD advice, even though it doesn’t look like I’m going to be able to “Lazarus” this one. Yes, it is a micro-SD in an adapter, but I checked the adapter switch with another uSD and it’s OK. And it was because I saw these at a ‘too good not to buy’ price that I bought in a small stock of ’em, so I’m now looking askance at this one’s several brethren. I’ve seen SanDisk panned for unreliability before, so avoid them anyhow – on prior experience I thought Integral were OK. But Samsung?? Never even seen their SDs over here, though if I did I’d certainly go for them on the basis of never (yet …) having had any Samsung device suffer an untimely death.

    Oh, well. Looks like EU3CH time for Mr. Integral’s baby, then. At least it’ll relieve some of the rage … :-(

  148. Steve C says:

    Re “vaccinations”, this morning I read an interesting article on Independence Daily, originating at freenations.net. Takeaway points: (a) Now that the rate of UK “vaccinations” is slowing as most are “vaccinated”, the rate of hospitalisations is slowing in step with it, and (b) This year’s “Covid deaths” with “vax” are higher in the same period than last year’s without. There must be a message in there somewhere. Plus some gut-wrenching personal experiences re babies and children.

  149. David A says:

    Updated my list on why it is extremely insane to trust the yahoo’s in charge…

    * Ivermectin – Safe and effective. Proven in numerous third world countries and DOZENS of Peer Reviewed studies as an effective covid killer. – CENSORED
    * Falsely portray one of the safest drugs in history used on 3.5 billion humans as unsafe horse medicine. POLICY
    * Hydroxychloroquine – Proven Effective at early stage COVID and as a preventative. Used worldwide for the off label use of fighting arthritis.  – CENSORED
    * Various effective vitamin regimens (including zinc) – CENSORED
    * Use of steroids and anti-inflammatory to treat bad cases – CENSORED
    * Ignore thousands of Doctors and successful PHD immunological and viral specialist warning if observed and potential harms. POLICY
    * Punish, debase or marginalize said scientists and Doctors. POLICY

    Approved treatments:

    * Remdimsivere – Causes slow heart rate and kidney failure in up to 10% of patients. – PROMOTED.
    * Sending infected home with ZERO treatment plan and telling them to call you back when you have trouble breathing. POLICY
    * Ventilators – Statistically more likely to kill you than not being on it – PROMOTED
    * Not allowing you visitors while you waste away in a hospital without a valid treatment – PROMOTED
    * Taking the most deadly vaccines created in history and then vaccinating groups that have a higher risk of dying from myocarditis CAUSED by the vaccine than from the actual disease – PROMOTED
    * Approving novel experimental vaccines while giving blanket immunity from all vaccine caused harms. POLICY
    * Ignore that 4O percent a month drop in antibodies leaky failed vaccine given to billions, is guaranteed to produce vaccine resistant mutations. POLICY
    * Ignore that the vaccinated are MORE likely to become asymptomatic disease spreaders and stop or reduce testing them. POLICY
    * DIVIDE society and blame the unvaccinated despite overwhelming evidence of failed vaccines and deadly vaccine harms. POLICY
    * Continuing flights from Infections source, China. PROMOTED
    * Approval of experimental novel vaccine without verifying ADE or OAS potential. POLICY
    * Ignoring negative health, LONG TERM extreme economic and happiness consequences of lockdowns. POLICY
    * Ignoring natural immunity and giving hundreds of millions unnecessary unhelpful proven harmful experimental vaccines that already have longer lasted broader and true immunity. POLICY.
    * Ignoring fresh air, deep breathing and Sunshine as an effective preventative to Covid. POLICY
    * Set up Bill Gates as a figure head to support vaccines for all despite the fact that he promoted vaccines as a path to Eugenics. POLICY

    Any additions changes recommended??

  150. jim2 says:

    OssQss – the Florida deaths aren’t looking very good …


  151. Graeme No.3 says:

    Interesting article on
    I like his comment “These quantitative facts are based on calculations using consensus scientific data and diagrams from CO2 GHG proponent sites such as the IPCC, NASA, NOAA, and the International Energy Agency.”

  152. Ossqss says:

    @OssQss – the Florida deaths aren’t looking very good …


    Deaths are never good to look at….

    My point was the trajectory went off a cliff a few weeks back. Look again.

    Could it be the antibody treatment centers across the state DeSantis set up in August?

    On another note, this was interesting to say the least.


  153. Ossqss says:

    Try this link instead. Seems the source site wants your DNA. Go figure.


  154. jim2 says:

    So Li batts can’t get too hot or too cold!

    With the rapid development of lithium-ion batteries in the field of electric vehicles and military industry, the low-temperature performance can not adapt to the special low-temperature weather or extreme environmental defects. Under low temperature conditions, the effective discharge capacity and effective discharge energy of lithium-ion batteries will be significantly reduced, and at the same time it is almost impossible to charge in the environment below -10 °C, which seriously restricts the application of lithium-ion batteries.


  155. Ossqss says:

    @Jim2, that was a good article, but they never entered high temps into the discussion. My gut tells me that high temps are not good either :-) Maybe the solution is to surround everything with MR. Slim heat pumps for so many batteries or something?

    Wait, what?

  156. jim2 says:

    Ossqss – I see what you mean. Deaths declined steeply. Got it.

  157. E.M.Smith says:


    Yup! LIon batteries have a fairly narrow ideal charge / discharge temperature range. A big part of what Tesla did was handle that (at the IEEE show & tell before they sold the first one, I got to see a roadster, without a body, and the head engineer told us about problems they solved. One was heat management…)


    How hot is too hot for the lithium-ion battery?
    After 45 degrees Celsius, the warm weather will be not favorable for lithium-ion batteries. It maybe takes to 50 degrees but in many cases, 45 is the maximum point. As the battery starts to charge it will also release some heat that is just because of internal cell extensions so that is why the outer and inner temperature should be moderate so, the lithium battery does work efficiently.

    As the lithium-ion battery itself discharge heat, it is essential to keep it at a favorable temperature because it will give you harm or device. Whatever device you are using like a mobile phone, laptop or even car battery, keep it in a safe and moderate place. In cars, check the battery and water it as per requirement.

    45 C is about 113 F, so a hot day across a lot of the West & South is going to get close to that. Now figure you are shoving electrons by the megawatt through a really big battery and it is setting in the sun, not in the shade…

    One of my favorite sayings about my Old Home Town was that in summer it was “110 in the shade… and there ain’t no shade!”

    So to use a Big Industrial Battery in the Grid, if Lithium, In summer, they will need to keep the INTERNAL temperature below about 110 F. That means active cooling part of the day. That part of the day when Solar is making the most juice you want to store… so charge efficiency values must be rated down by the consumption of megawatt scale A/C. Just sayin’…

  158. YMMV says:

    Li batteries of various chemistries have some known safety issues. Now I am starting to hear about BYD batteries (China) which are claimed to be safe even under extreme torture. lithium-iron-phosphate without any nickel, cobalt, or manganese. Is this hype or not?

  159. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and in other Non-News, Gov. Neusance had enough votes manufactured and trucked in to not be recalled… Yawn…

    It’s a very strange feeling to know that the Fix Was In from the start and not even bother to watch the returns…

  160. another ian says:

    More pro IVM

  161. jim2 says:

    From the I-will-believe-it-when-I-see-it Department:

    Breaking news from the New York Times:

    John H. Durham, the special counsel appointed by the Trump administration to scrutinize the Russia investigation, has told the Justice Department that he will ask a grand jury to indict a prominent cybersecurity lawyer on a charge of making a false statement to the F.B.I., people familiar with the matter said.


  162. E.M.Smith says:


    LiFePO4 batteries are known to be much more durable and safe. They are widely used in RVs and similar applications as “house batteries”.

    Their “problem” is much lower energy density than Li- Ion, so you get a battery about the same size but 1/2 the power of Lion, or compared to lead acid: much lower weight for about double the power. That’s not good at all compared to LIon batteries for cell phones and EVs where you MUST have as much power density as possible to make them the size you want with the run time you want.


    Lithium-ion can consist of two different chemistries for the cathode, lithium manganese oxide or lithium cobalt dioxide, as both have a graphite anode. It has a specific energy of 150/200 watt-hours per kilogram and a nominal voltage of 3.6V. Its charge rate is from 0.7C up to 1.0C as higher charges can significantly damage the battery. Lithium-ion has a discharge rate of 1C.
    Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4)
    Lithium iron phosphate has a cathode of iron phosphate and an anode of graphite. It has a specific energy of 90/120 watt-hours per kilogram and a nominal voltage of 3.20V or 3.30V. The charge rate of lithium iron phosphate is 1C and the discharge rate of 1-25C.

    Notice the LiFePO4 does NOT say “damage the battery”. You lose charge power to heat (inefficient) but it doesn’t blow up on you. For solar equipped RVs it is a feature to have a battery that takes charge from the rack as it comes and doesn’t set the coach on fire; plus you don’t care about an extra 50 lbs of battery (compared to LIon or 1/2 compared to lead) in a 40,000 lb GVWR coach ;-)

    So, compared to LIon, almost 1/2 the capacity per pound, and volts are lower by about .3 V too.

    One you can get for golf carts or to play with for $125:


    12V Battery Lithium 28Ah 360 Wh LiFePO4 LFP Solar Trailer Scooter Boat Audio
    Battery Evo
    Was: $169.00

    Now: $125.00

    So at 28 Ah 12 VDC it is about 1/3 my car battery capacity (or 1/4 the Diesel car battery…).

    Battery & Charging Specifications
    Capacity: 360 Wh Max Continuous Current: 40 Amps
    Connector: P/N Pole Charge Voltage: 14.4 Volts
    Max Charge Current: 20 Amps Height: 7.3 Inches
    Width: 6.7 Inches Depth: 3.0 Inches
    Weight: 8.0 Lbs

    In a MUCH smaller package. Height is about the same, but a 3 inch x 6.7 inch profile? I could fit about 4 of those in my battery tray.

    Which is why folks put them in RVs. You get about double the power for the volume used at lower weight. But still about half the power of LIon cells…

    They are really a very common battery and the only Li battery I’d use in anything I cared about not burning up…

  163. E.M.Smith says:

    And a nice write up on one of the Car Replacement Battery makers:

    IF you are prone to the odd “lights left on battery dead” problem, this is your friend:

    In recent years, some automakers have started to make lithium-ion starter batteries available in their vehicles, but the batteries have largely been limited to expensive optional offerings in high-end sports cars from companies like Porsche and McLaren. Antigravity wants to change that.
    Antigravity offers automotive batteries that will fit nearly any passenger vehicle on the market today, so we decided to put its latest and greatest to the test with a late-model Dodge Challenger, which uses an H7-size battery. Beyond the charge density benefits and sheer novelty of the concept, Antigravity’s batteries offer several important benefits over a lead-acid battery that matter in real-world use.

    “The battery has an emergency jump-start feature built into it,” Schafer points out. “So if you accidentally leave your lights on or the battery fully discharges for some other reason, the battery puts itself to sleep and maintains a reserve capacity that can provide four or five more engine starts
    so you can get the car running again.” While the feature can be accessed by a button on the battery itself, Antigravity provides a key fob that allows the function to be triggered remotely as well.

    But it looks like about $800 for the size battery my big ol’ Mercedes wants 8-(

  164. YMMV says:

    I’m a fan of LiFePO4 batteries, but I got the impression that the BYD Blade battery was something more than that. I guess not. They claim 10,000 charging cycles. “BYD batteries are about 10% bigger and heavier compared to other systems.”

  165. E.M.Smith says:

    Key bit is this:

    To improve the batteries, BYD changed the conventional prismatic LFP cells into thinner and longer cells, which were designed to become structural parts (beams) of the pack. That simplifies the pack design.

    All the big EV makers are looking at their batteries and trying to find a way to integrate the battery as support structure in the pack. Present builds have a frame and enclosure holding cells that are non-structural. So they are looking to ditch the frame and enclosure by making the battery itself be the structural element.

    None of that changes the basic physics or chemistry of the battery (not pack) technology nor changes things like energy density of the chemistry.

    They will still be 2 x the volume and weight of a similarly built “battery as structural element” LIon based car (and yes, folks like Tesla are looking to do this too).

    It’s important to watch for the word “pack” vs “battery” vs “cell” in anything about EVs.

  166. jim2 says:

    AZ AG:

  167. E.M.Smith says:

    My increasingly skeptical side looks at Az and thinks: “If it is losing the presidency and thus control of the country, or one county take a financial hit, Soros’s Minions / NGOs will just cat the county a check for the losses…”

  168. H.R. says:

    Hey, I just found a new-to-me survival food.

    We planted a Kousa Dogwood in a little courtyard area off our front porch the year we moved in. It stays fairly compact; not too tall and doesn’t spread out much. 21 years later and it is nowhere close to taking over that small space.

    It has beautiful flowers in late Spring. In the Fall, it has some cool looking fruits. I thought they weren’t edible and left them for the birds.

    It wouldn’t surprise me to find a few others here have a Kousa Dogwood planted, as they are a great landscape tree that can be planted closer to the house than the usual deciduous trees.

    This year, I finally got around to searching out if the fruits are edible since I knew that I had only assumed they weren’t. It turns out that not only are they edible, they are delicious! I just ate my first one about 15 minutes ago. wOw! Yummy!

    Here’s a link to the Kousa Dogwood that focuses on the fruit. It’s now on my list of forage foods if the SHTF. Most people assume the fruits aren’t edible, like I did. Should be plenty of fruits for someone in the know, because it’s a popular landscape tree.


  169. another ian says:


    “From the I-will-believe-it-when-I-see-it Department:”

    “Clinton Lawyer Michael Sussmann Indicted For Lying to FBI While Spreading The False Alfa Bank Trump-Russia Collusion Conspiracy on Behalf of Clinton Campaign
    September 16, 2021 | Sundance | 299 Comments”


  170. another ian says:


    If this actually progresses just as well you didn’t offer to eat your hat as a video would be expected

  171. another ian says:

    “Big Trouble In Big China”


    As the collapse of Evergrande reverberates throughout the Chinese economy, pissed off retail investors have gone from storming the company’s headquarters to taking management hostage, according to the Straits Times, citing posts ‘making the rounds’ on social media.”

    More at


  172. jim2 says:

    Europe is in the throes of a energy crisis. It’s due to unreliables, but you won’t hear much about it in the US.

    European benchmark prices have more than tripled this year. While the fuel isn’t a widely used commodity in the biggest Nordic country, it has sent other energy prices from electricity to carbon emission permits soaring, raising costs for everything from chemicals to auto parts.

    “Electricity prices face a perfect storm both given the weather and structural factors,” Swedbank AB said on Friday. The bank said Swedish inflation could sail above 3% in the coming months, which would be the highest level since 2008. It has averaged 1.6% over the past five years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.


  173. jim2 says:

    another ian – Well, if I had a hat, I’d eat it …

  174. jim2 says:

    More from the Sweden/energy article:

    Electricity “prices keep going up and nothing will be able to stop that,” analysts at Bixia AB, a Swedish utility, said in a report.

  175. jim2 says:

    And it looks like Brexit may have been in name only.

    LONDON/PARIS, May 12 (Reuters) – Investment banks are shifting more rainmakers out of London to financial centres across the European Union, accelerating the pace of moves after the pandemic and uncertainty over Britain’s access to the bloc slowed relocations.

    Morgan Stanley (MS.N), Barclays (BARC.L) and Goldman Sachs (GS.N) are among those moving senior bankers, according to sources at the lenders, as European regulators push banks to better staff their EU offices and travel restrictions ease. Local hiring has also increased.

    The lack of a breakthrough in talks for a meaningful deal between Brussels and London on financial services post-Brexit has added to the impetus. Client-facing bankers in London are required a “chaperone” based inside the bloc whenever they speak to clients, spurring some to relocate to avoid that complication when sealing deals

  176. jim2 says:

    Question for any Brits here: What is your impression of Brexit?

  177. H.R. says:

    @jim2 re eating hats – Ketchup. Lots and lots of ketchup. Don’t ask me how I know. Besides, it was a very small hat. 😜

  178. E.M.Smith says:


    Just warm up the BBQ first and use Sweet Baby Ray’s:

    I’m thinking the Brisket Yarmulke is the best:

  179. Ossqss says:

    Well this could be an interesting vehicle for a SHTF or just fun moment.


  180. The True Nolan says:

    Here is an anecdotal report that vaxxed Australians with COVID are being treated with Ivermectin but unvaxxed are not. This may be related to the general ban of off-label Ivermectin prescriptions which still allows specific doctors to continue prescribing it off-label.
    Are there any Australians who can confirm or deny this story?

    @EM: “I’m thinking the Brisket Yarmulke is the best:”

    The Yarmulke may be good, but for really good SOUTHERN BBQ you need to try Toby Jones’ menu. Where else can you get BBQ and a foot massage? (slight bad language warning)

  181. E.M.Smith says:


    They are figuring on 50 MPG so an 80 Gallon tank… in a truck with 22.5 inch rims? Off road?

    Um, I’ll believe it when I see them drive it 4000 miles… I think it has a shot at 3000, maybe, on the freeway at 45 mph or less…

  182. E.M.Smith says:


    One hopes that it isn’t true… but so far the typical pattern fits just that kind of abusive slanting of the system. One hospital (forget where) said they would not treat the unvaccinated… Leaving me to wonder if they include the “only shot once” and the “2nd shot under 14 days ago” folks in that definition of “UNvaccinated” too?…

    BTW, like the BigA BBQ vid ;-)

  183. E.M.Smith says:

    My kind of people:

    I especially like at the end, lighting the birthday candles with a propane torch…

  184. E.M.Smith says:

    OMG! I thought “Brick Suit” on RSBN was NEW. He isn’t. Check out at 5 min:

  185. David A says:

    @TTN, along those lines the interview of this woman is over the top believable.
    We Remember Dr Ryan Cole’s video about the very large uptick in certain cases.
    This video confirms Dr Cole’s large uptick in severe “other” disease as a result of vaccination.
    It explains the continued, post vaccine roll out time period, excess deaths not associated with Covid. (They are mostly if not all vaccine related)
    It very clearly and believably explains why adverse events are extremely underreported.
    It demonstrates in a logical believable manner why double vaccinated Covid patients are under reported, and even counted as unvaccinated.
    We get to see “toe the company line” policy in action. ( don’t know how some people live with themselves.) The company calling the shots is clearly the CDC.
    She will lose her job very soon. They are intending to fire her as a “ voluntary resignation “ She want let them do that.
    The interviewer says we have many such whistleblower reports, but very few are willing to come into the open. (He does a good job)


    Another way the numbers are jiggered is that the vaccinated apparently weakens immunity in general, (By a lot for two weeks, about 70 percent) and when they come down with Covid it is assigned to the unvaccinated, a two strike move, 1 out of the vaccinated column, and 2, into the unvaccinated column. Strike 3 is back into the vaccinated column where they are very unlikely to get Covid, benefiting to a significant degree from natural immunity.

  186. The True Nolan says:

    @EM: Hotel California is without argument one of the very best rock songs of the 20th Century. I would not be surprised if SOMEONE is still playing it 100 years from now. Hard to decide what other small group of songs would be grouped with it. Stairway to Heaven? While My Guitar Gently Weeps? But as for Hotel California… I am a bit of a heretic. My favorite version?

  187. The True Nolan says:

    @David A: That link you posted is a real eye opener. The section of 20:00 to 28:00 concerning reliability of the VAERS database is very valuable. The stories of how difficult it is to create entries and the follow up verification by VAERS shows how unlikely it is that “just anyone can create an entry and none of them are verified”.

    There are several points (38:00) where she details her confusion that officials seemed unresponsive to their legal duty to report adverse effects. Actually, less than unresponsive, in fact discouraging.

    She mentions also an increase in cancers, especially solid body tumors. Just as an anecdotal incident, my neighbor two doors down (double vaxxed) just developed such a tumor.

    The recorded phone call between her and her organizational superiors from 42:45 to 53:00 is sad but not unexpected. Condensed version? “We support your efforts to report adverse events — but shut the hell up.”

    At 1:01:00 interesting detail on how vaxxed are counted as unvaxxed.

    Great interview. Very sobering. Thanks, David.

  188. AC Osborn says:

    Yes TTN that is a very good video Ian posted.
    I think it should probably be on the latest India v Japan post as well to get more of an audience.

  189. jim2 says:

    RE: VAERS.

    Guys. Really. The VAERS database is publicly available. You can download it to your machine and put it into a database, query it, whatever.

    If you have ever read any of the “death” entries, a lot of them give almost NO detail whatsoever. Totally worthless as far as a report goes. Why do you believe some woman on the internet when you can read it for yourself.

    For example, from openvaers (notice all the NOT REPORTED). Really sketchy information. Nobody spent hours entering that one!


  190. jim2 says:


    If a climate scientist posts a chart of CO2 juxtaposed with one of global temperature and tells you temperature goes up as CO2 goes up, so CO2 causes global warming. I bet just about everyone here would point out “correlation does not imply causation.”

    Why wouldn’t you say the same thing about a temporal correlation of illness or death after a vaccine injection? I’m just not understanding why you don’t see these two thing in the same light!

  191. E.M.Smith says:


    Supposedly (and I have no reason to believe she was lying about her employment since it can easily be verified) she is a Health Professional who treats patients. A P.A. I think it was. She uses VAERs and is embedded in a hospital observing first hand the degree to which the data entry does not happen and is very poorly done when a doctor is in a hurry.

    The way it ought to be done looks to be long and tedious (or she just likes to complain about her job and tools…)

    YOUR “rebuttal” to her is to say the VAERs data is poor and doesn’t tell us what the actual vaccine injury rate is…

    Um, that seems far more like a support of her assertions than a dismissal…

    FWIW, I really did like the video content as to detail and “insider view”. I did find a few things somewhat offputting.

    1) The guys voice just has this “strained vocal cords” sound that grates.

    2) The woman comes across to me (wearing my manager hat) as a problem employee. Someone causing more trouble that is just not their place to make. She’s reporting OTHER FOLKS patients and seems to want to report any bad thing as vaccine related. UM… as Jim2 points out, just because I got the Jab doesn’t mean it caused my toenail fungus… /snark;

    3) The “Management Call” which is presented as a grand conspiracy to muzzle her, to me sounds more like a Manager Counseling session for a problem employee bothering other folks who have whispered in the Mgr. ear about it. Yes, it could go either way, but I’ve done those kinds of sessions. You don’t want to piss off the bothersome employee, but you also need to back them down a notch for the sake of the other employees.

    Basically I take it as a potential good insider insight into what is really happening on the ground, but I want to see some confirmation. Like maybe Cancers up 20% year over year in a billing or tracking system that’s more reliable, or deaths in the 50-70 cohort way out of line with prior years. Something that matches up.

    Basically it’s a good “Heads Up” but needs proving up…

  192. The True Nolan says:

    @jim2 ““correlation does not imply causation.”

    So when a pharmaceutical company runs a trial with 2,000 volunteers, (1,000 placebo and 1,000 drug recipients) and all placebo patients die, but all drug recipients survive and thrive, the proper response is “there was a correlation, but we don’t know what caused it”?

    Yes, ““correlation does not imply causation”. I know that is the common phrase, but it needs to be corrected. Correlation DOES imply causation. It does not PROVE causation, but it does IMPLY it. That, of course brings us to the next step. At what point do we pragmatically shift our opinions from “this is implied” to “this looks very likely” to “this is proven”? And note that I say “pragmatically”; science and experience do not “prove” things in the same way that mathematics does. We have a new vaccine which has produced more VAERS reports in 9 months than ALL the previous reports from the last several decades. Suspicious, yes? So, as a practical question, and as a scientist, if there were some material which PERHAPS was a poison and you gave it to 100 million people, how many people would have to die, and how soon, before you began to treat it as a poison?

    More importantly, if VAERS is not to be trusted, why is there no ACCURATE (I stress “accurate”) system in place to collect data for how many people are infected (vaxxed and unvaxxed), how many are hospitalized (vaxxed and unvaxxed), how many sick die (vaxxed and unvaxxed), and overall death rate (vaxxed and unvaxxed). I look at the current systems we have in place and all I see are guesses and estimates and a bizarre, irrational and never-ending use of psychology and coercion to push more and more vaxxing. The absolute void in rationality and information is so overwhelming that the void itself has become a gigantic piece of information. VAERS for all its faults (and I believe that those faults are “features and not bugs”) is still as good as anything else we have.

  193. E.M.Smith says:


    The way I always heard it was “Correlation is not causation”, which is quite true. And yes, I’ve frequently said something along the lines of “Correlation is not causation; but it tells you where to dig…”

    It is NOT causation; but it’s a big red flag saying causation is likely nearby…

    We now have 2 “health professional” videos that claim basically the same thing. (I’ve lost track of the other one, but it was a nurse saying the folks in the hospital were all the Vaccinated ones – which we now know are classed as UN-vaccinated in several ways…)

    We need to call them out on the “UNvaccinated” and instead phrase it as “Injected vs not”.

    Basically we need about a 5 way sort:

    NO injection of any vaccine.
    ONE injection of a vaccine.
    2nd injection of a 2 part vaccine
    2 weeks past final vaccination
    Had a booster shot.

    Any less fine grained than that will have the data “gamed” as is being done.

  194. The True Nolan says:

    @EM: I have lost count of how many times TPTB have “redefined” (aka “lied about”) basic medical terms.

    They have changed the definitions of “pandemic”, “vaccine”, “case”, “vaccinated” and have flat out lied about alternative treatments, safety, effectiveness, whether the drug is approved, told us Remdesivir was safe, sent infected patients into nursing homes, sent other patients home without treatment, used dangerous ventilator treatments, failed to accurately gather the most basic information, destroyed their placebo group, isolated the most vulnerable, destroyed businesses and violated basic human rights. Now they say, “Trust us, EVERYONE MUST get the shot or face the consequences. It’s for your own good!”

    Not gonna happen…

  195. cdquarles says:

    Catch with correlation is that it may be spurious. Causation entails correlation. That’s why it may give you a dig here.

  196. E.M.Smith says:


    Very well put.


    Yup, I’m firmly in the Not Gonna Happen group. At least until there’s a good long duration result in the bag and verified.

    NEVER the Pfizer pfizzle / Modern Meh, nor the JnJ Jab. Don’t need clots and autoimmune issues.

    Frankly, I’d rather just tank up on ivermectin and kiss someone who was an active case. I figure I’d have a good chance at getting natural immunity and with far lower risk of complications!

    The Mothra vaccine has a chance, if the longer duration testing shows it to be OK. I’ve got about 2 years of “soup” before I need to get worried about it again.

    What’s quite clear is that the Pfizer Pfizzle is a 6 month delay, not a fix, and most likely the same for any others that are not a “killed whole virus”.

  197. jim2 says:

    Well. We all agree the data we have to work with sucks. So there’s that :)

  198. The True Nolan says:

    @cdquarles: “Catch with correlation is that it may be spurious. Causation entails correlation. That’s why it may give you a dig here.”

    Absolutely! You can have correlation without causation — but you cannot have causation without correlation. In other words, if you have a hypothetical causation which does not have a detectible relationship to its result, then your hypothetical cause does not exist. The essence of science is to run two experiments at the same time, two setups that only differ in ONE way. That is why science is so difficult to do correctly; in every real experiment there will be MANY possible differences which might be intrusive. It is VERY hard, perhaps even impossible to ever restrict the conditions of opposing experiments so that you are really down to only ONE initial difference, ie, restrict the difference down to only the one possible causative agent.

    So what do we do? We do our best to at least reduce the differences down to those which we intuit (aka “guess” “have a hunch” “believe based on past experience”) will NOT have an effect. In a medical trial we use matching sex and age groups, health status, environmental factors, etc., but we do not worry about styles of clothing or favorite TV shows.

    As a side note, I once spent some time considering a traditional physics experiment. You go outside and throw a ball into the air. Measure the trajectory and you will get (roughly) a parabola. How many other reasons can you think of which might, however small, change that trajectory from a parabola to something else? I think I stopped counting somewhere after a dozen or two factors. The point being, there are NO perfect experiments and NO perfect data. The best we can hope for is “good enough” with that being defined as dependent on what your purposes are.

    The VAERS data sucks. But it is as good as we have. Combine it with eyewitnesses, theoretical considerations, past studies of the VAERS database, practical issues, and it is STILL not as good as we like. But it looks damning — and the exact people who SHOULD HAVE implemented a better system seem hell bent on preventing access to reliable data.

  199. E.M.Smith says:


    Consider Newtonian vs Relativistic Physics. We didn’t control for speed approaching that of light in the era of Newton…

  200. The True Nolan says:

    @EM: “Consider Newtonian vs Relativistic Physics.”

    Believe it or not, I don’t think RP was one I considered. Of course air drag is the only really big factor. And possible wind. But how about the gradient of the gravitational field? The parabola is only for a field with no variation in direction or strength. In the real world the path of the ball is part of an ellipse; the ball is in orbit. And even the elliptical orbit assumes there are no other bodies nearby (and that the ball is very tiny). And the world has spin, so there is a Coriolis factor. And if the ball has a spin there is the Magnus Effect (curve balls). And electric charge on the ball — bound to be at least SOME! That will cause electric forces. And that charged ball is moving in a magnetic field so it will curve. Speaking of the magnetic field, are there any paramagnetic bits in the ball? Any diamagnetic bits? And the ball is not perfectly symmetrical. Or smooth. Any local mass concentrations like mountains? Or like the person throwing the ball? And if the Sun is shining there is radiative pressure. Maybe get hit by an REALLY energetic cosmic ray. Is one side of the ball damp? Reactive thrust from evaporating molecules. The ball itself has a tiny bit of Brownian motion, just less visible than that of a microscopic particle. Any loud sounds causing pressure waves in the neighborhood? Is the Moon overhead? Did a collapsing black hole just send a gravity wave by? Is the ball the same color on all sides? Heck! Does a round ball even have “sides”? Just asking for a friend…

  201. another ian says:

    “Whoopsie, Too Funny – Overzealous DC Stormtroopers Accidentally Target Undercover Fed Dressed Like Antifa Then Had to Pretend Like They Were Arresting Him
    September 18, 2021 | Sundance | 358 Comments”


    Menes at Sundance/Rosie in comments

  202. The True Nolan says:

    @another ian: The use of undercover instigators is an old and often used trick. One thing I have seen in video from previous occasions is that the undercover guys often do not change their footwear. Cops will change their uniforms for civies, but continue to wear the department issued boots.

  203. E.M.Smith says:


    It takes a long time and some effort to effectively adopt a “role”, and when pressed into suddenly undercover duty, the folks often just don’t quite cover all the bases. From hair that takes time to grow out to meticulous manicure habits out of place on a Biker Dude to, as you pointed out, boots (or other bits like rings and watch tan lines) and similar “small things” are often overlooked.

    For me, it is often a particular “look in the eye” and vocal mannerisms that flag them. High “situational awareness” out of character. A crisper than expected speech. Basically feeling a little too competent and aware than their character ought to be. Sometimes it is just an over ambitious portrayal. Like on 6-Jan when I was solicited a couple of times by “eager 20 somethings” to go into the Capitol Building… Why so “eager”? IF “that’s where all the action is”, why were they not there? And just about the right age to be out of Academy a year or three, but not a senior guy. Speech pattern like a person reading a well practiced script, so no “Hey, where you from? We’re having a blast. We were inside and just came back out. Gonna go back in, wanna come?” but “The South Door is open! That’s where all the action is! Come on in.” Then when it doesn’t work, on to the next group and similar pitch…

    We chose to stay on the public side of the barrier and on the public roadway. Then left as soon as we saw “trouble on the stairs” and gas in use… Sometimes it’s good to have been raised a Law Enforcement Eagle Scout and goodie two-shoes who doesn’t like “doing the wrong thing” ;-)

    I was pretty sure it was a Set Up on the first approach of a “Camo not quite right” guy, but by number 3 it was certain. #3 was a black clad ANTIFA type with bull horn who mistook me for his handler. She (middle aged woman with a partner) came up quickly and they had a nice conversation about group dynamics and action on the steps while I pretended to not care or listen… (I was in all black too, as my own kind of camo…)

    Definitely “operatives” working the crowd. One guy was in a cassock with the mickey mouse ear kind of hat, but was doing a fast Groucho Walk (low long strides) holding a video camera like a GoPro in a “Document people, not filming for aesthetics” way as he rushed through the crowd always pointing it only at people close enough to capture faces… Similar “clothes not quite like he wears it every day” and “just out of academy” look to him. Never filmed the “action on the steps” too far away to make out faces, but always folks at about 30 feet or closer. I’d like to find public film of the event with him in it. He would be easy to pick out in that costume. It was kind of like a rounder Biretta (or maybe just round ’cause it was stuck on his head ;-)


  204. Ossqss says:

    @HR, we had a failure of one of the beer caps on the Hillbilly Backscratcher. Is there a warranty period on such?

    The situation was rectified, due to the thickness of the wood involved, and available tools, by using a SS 3/8″ staple and tapping it down fully with a nail set. Perfect repair. You were in manufacturing IIRC. I consider it a Six Sigma type thing :-)

  205. H.R. says:

    @Ossqss – I have some small brass round head brads that I was going to drive in the center of each cap. I wasn’t sure how my choice of glue would perform. I considered it may (or may not) be a weak spot. After all, there are only two of those in the World, so there isn’t a lot of data available on those things😜

    Anyhow, I got busy getting ready for Florida and there was no time to nail them down. I wondered how the glue I chose would hold up. Now I know. Humidity may be the problem. My son has the other one but it’s in a low humidity environment. You’ve kept yours in your shop, yes?

    I’m thinking of producing one or two more. I think I have a bit of suitable tree limb to use for two or perhaps even 4 more. They are a bit of funky fun to have around, and I don’t have one ☹

    💡 Maybe the next ones will have a RR spike bottle opener as the handle. Bottle cap backscratcher on one end and bottle opener on the other.

    Hmmmmm…. how would I do that? ….. Oh!I am getting some ideas.
    BTW, if the pull tab on a can of Busch Light ever fails, you can always drive that RR spike opener through the top and there’d be hardly a pause in refreshment. It would make a much better size hole than a screwdriver, the usual rescue tool. Full flow and all that.

  206. E.M.Smith says:


    Somewhere in the garage is my Rock Hammer / Pick from the early 1970s college geology course… In those days there were not pull tabs on our beverages when in the field. Our T.A. / instructor each took out their soda, and with a quick practiced swing, put a large hole on one side right to the rim, and a small one on the other. We all took note…

    After a few scary practice runs where I put the hole in the middle of the lid… Eventually I got it down to a decent swing and calibrated size. Also, if hit near the rim at all, the rim prevents too far an excursion that way and the hole enlarges inward, giving a perfect alignment to the rim.

    All this is done while holding the can still with your other hand, and you do NOT want to miss…

    The things we did for Science then ;-)

  207. David A says:

    EM, that woman was NOT a problem employee. I listened twice to the entire thing.
    She never heard of VARES, and NOBODY was filling out appropriate VARES reports, or any. She was in a leadership position and she found out she was required to report for specific things. She saw a huge influx of never before seen problems. “The year blood thinners failed” She saw a publication about a particular bleeding problem manifesting and the hospital report about it missed it entirely. People could die. She had been effectively told that the hospital had no interest in doing VARES reports, but yes, the nurses and doctors were self guided on this. and she articulated that they told her she could do as she was doing. In a position of leadership she sent a memo that in such and such a situation this treatment could backfire. The hospital position was clearly CDC agenda suppression. She articulated how vaccinated were being classified as unvaccinated. She was vey much respected there for what 15 years. No mention of any prior history problems. She was witnessing people suffering horribly with very unusual conditions. ( that were in the VAREES report to watch for). When “Toeing the company line” is killing people, it is time to be a problem. I am grateful to her. There is no evidence that anyone but management was offended. She intimated that many at the hospital saw the problems Many many nurses report similar stories. Many are refusing the vaccine at the risk of her job. What I found most interesting was her report demonstrates how Harvard could come to a conclusion that at most 10 percent get reported. The pharmaceuticals run the CDC.

    Her story clearly supports Dr Carl lab results and patients observations, and the NBC affiliate report that got inundated with vaccine horror stories when they asked for horror stories about the unvaccinated. I can find easily dozens more similar tales from working medical professionals.

  208. David A says:

    Also VARES and the other adverse event reporting agencies exist for a reason! And that reason is NOT to be dismissed with tautology- “ Correlation is not necessarily causation, anybody can report an adverse event”. Yes, a 100 percent true generalization completely dismissing these professional agencies, and completely ignorant of how they actually work. Also completely ignorant of the Harvard study that suggested only one to ten percent of adverse events get recorded. She clearly explained how demanding the reports are and what happens when you don’t complete it. ( how come only government software does this (-;

  209. David A says:

    With over 15 thousand deaths, and I have seen the people’s stories and videos from nurses, and the US has done ONE autopsy.

    Excess deaths in the US are continuing above any Covid count
    One would think that the deaths would be down with so many vulnerable culled last year. Down for diabetes, down for hear failure, etc…. In Sweden they are.

  210. David A says:

    Some of the latest updates include instances of CNS demyelination, functional neurological disorder, waning immunity, Bell’s palsy, antibody dependent enhancement (ADE), heart disorders, Guillain-Barre autoimmune paralysis, Graves’ disease and blood clots all stemming from the injections.

  211. another ian says:

    “General Milley Is Releasing A Revised Version Of ‘The Art Of War’ — And We’ve Got Exclusive Excerpts”

    “General Mark A. Milley says he can make it even better. Milley believes the book needs to be updated to integrate all the advancements America’s modern military has made in military tactics and strategy. To that end, he’s releasing his own version of the book.

    “If you think you might attack an enemy, pick up the phone and give ’em a heads up. It’s only fair.”

    “You have to be careful not to surprise your enemy. They really don’t like it.”

    “Treason is not treason if it is the lesser of two treasons.”

    “Know thy pronouns, and know thy enemy’s pronouns.”

    “The supreme art of war is to surrender to your enemy without fighting.”

    “All war is white rage.”

    “If you surrender, you can never lose.”

    “If thy commanding officer sends mean tweets, thou need not follow orders or the chain of command.”

    “The enemy of my friend is my friend.”

    “Keep your friends close and your enemies on speed dial.”

    “You can not betray the one to which you were never loyal.”

    “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for China.”

    “When retreating, leave most of thy armaments behind so you know what you’ll be up against next time.”

    “Chinese bros before American hoes.”

    “He who turns on bad orange man gets big book deal.” ”

    Via https://joannenova.com.au/2021/09/open-sunday/#comment-2470240

    Link is there

  212. another ian says:

    Re batteries

    Try the torpedo battery c-f that gets mentioned in the loss of one of your nuke subs in

  213. Steve C says:

    Re “Covid deaths”, I spotted an interesting comment on an article on The Daily Sceptic last night. The commenter pointed out, using the government’s own figures, that these deaths in the UK are 10-15 times higher this August/September, with 80%+ “vaxxed”, than they were last August/September, when no-one was “vaxxed”. All this data – his table shows Aug 5th to Sep 12th – unmentioned by the MSM, of course. (Click on the tiny image to enlarge it to readable size.)

  214. jim2 says:

    91% of deaths after covid vaccine are of people over 50. This is just the cohort one would expect to have more health problems – vaccine or no vaccine.


  215. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A:

    I didn’t intend to say she was blowing smoke and full of bull, but rather was commenting on her demeanor and Management demeanor. Those “we need to talk” sessions with a follow up letter are what you do (I have done…) with a “problem” (be it an action or the whole person). Note I said with my “Managers hat on” – that is, Management POV.

    She has a very high focus on One Thing. Obsesses about it even. Very prone to “Down the rabbit hole” on details and 100% completeness. That can be a good thing sometimes ( I have it sometimes too…) but when it is “Other People’s Job” and not yours, it veers toward “Busy Body”…

    So seen from Her POV: She is just trying to do a Good Job (100%) and Comply With Law. (While complaining about not getting training to do that job). But…

    Seen from Mgt. POV: Probably has some other staff complaining she nags them about not doing their job (and “she’s not my boss”…) and / or gripes a lot about doing the VAERS stuff (and folks getting tired of hearing it). Then, as supposedly a high skill professional who ought to be self training,… wants “hand holding” about forms? Comes across as “has a chip on her shoulder about the vaccine” (cases where she cites the failure, but in an emotional state not clinical…)

    Then the tone of the managers talking with her… There’s 2 of them on the call, one mostly being quiet. I don’t know their proper titles but it sure felt to me like “Boss & Bosses Boss” or “Boss & H.R.” as I’ve done those kinds of calls. You do that to Document A Problem. (As seen from the managers POV)

    Then the “follow up letter to clarify discussion and agreement” is straight out of the Human Resources Playbook. I’ve written them after “the call” several times… (sometimes before ;-)

    So my point is not that SHE IS a problem employee but that from her managers POV she is being treated as one (and perhaps with some cause depending on accuracy of her perception vs it being overblown and modulo that Management will prefer expensive staff working on revenue generating activities not on time sinks with zero return… and she may not have “got the hint”…)

    None of this is about the veracity of her claims, the actual vaccine injury rates, actual clinical observations, legal requirements of VAERS, etc. It is JUST and ONLY a professional managers assessment of the SOCIOLOGY of the phone “meeting” and followup letter.

    I can’t say if she’s a PITA Problem Employee or a Valued Professional With Crappy Lazy Managers (Now with Director Of Department hat on…). I can say it could go either way and I’ve got evidence for both. One her statements. The other her managers actions. So need some more data to “prove it up” one way or the other.

    Could be management sweeping professional VAERS legal trouble under the rug by dumping the wistleblower.

    Could be an employee making a fuss about “Other People’s Jobs” and creating workplace strife.

    Could be both interacting badly.

  216. E.M.Smith says:


    And that’s the big problem with “Vaccine Side Effects”. It’s a statistical mine field.

    Take, for example, me. Some foods make my joints cranky. So I get the jab. 3 days later I’ve got mildly arthritic joints flaring up. Was that The Jab? Or did I eat some tomato sauce that I didn’t know was in my curry? (did that about a month ago…) Or did I clean out the garage and worked them hard? So it gets reported as a “maybe”, but does it mean anything?

    Similar but different, take my neighbor across the street. Died. I’d guess her age as about 60’s+ something, morbidly obese, diabetic and several other issues. I have no idea if she was vaccinated, but suspect probably so (that kind of worry prone person). So was it The Jab, or just Her Time? (Me? I’d vote for Her Time. Been wondering a few years now…) But if she was jabbed it is also possible some (for me relatively minor inflammation thing) might have been enough to push her over the edge. Being female, she will have a slightly higher tendency to clotting and may not have taken the aspirin I took after cleaning out the garage…

    So which is it? The Jab? Her Time? No aspirin and increased inflammation / clotting after just about any vaccine for her?

    No real way to say, so you end up in the land of Big Data and Fancy Statistics and a lot of Hope…

  217. philjourdan says:

    @OSSQSS – Thanks for that video! It is so true and more true today than before due to the rising demand for socialism by the ignorant who have no clue what they are demanding.

  218. cdquarles says:

    While not experienced with VAERS directly, I have done pharmaceutical post-marketing surveillance work looking for adverse events. My opinion is that much of the public is being mislead, by both sides here. Proper longitudinal studies like this require large amounts of correctly collected and transmitted data to mean much. The epidemiologist and post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacies abound, sadly, in medicine. Statistical studies relying on p-values don’t help.

    Anecdotes are just that. That doesn’t mean they are useless. Studies that don’t do proper error analysis and propagation are often harmful.

  219. David A says:

    “ So seen from Her POV: She is just trying to do a Good Job (100%) and Comply With Law. (While complaining about not getting training to do that job). But…”

    EM, I hired up to 120 people daily. ( fired a few as well) I would hire this person in a New York minute, dedicated, caring, educated qualified etc…. She was in a position of leadership. Sending memos to specific groups was part of her job. Her job involved saving life’s. Her management emphasized that for years.

    Suddenly people were dying. Vaccinated people were coming in with very serious issues with medical problems that were not part of their medical history, unusual problems. Blood thinners for the first time in anyones memory were failing.

    She found out about VAERS, and that it was a legal requirement to do it, and nobody was. The administration clearly did not care in the least. There only concern was creating an aura of safety about the vaccine, and they said so. They did not CARE if the vaccines were the cause. They did not care if an entire population was given a novel medication that could kill and cripple many. They did not care for their patients, just tow the company line, vaccines are good, get a shot. They were neglecting the heavy responsibility to give VAERS the information they needed to do the investigative work required. VAERS is suppose to take that information, quantify it and do detailed investigation into recurrent similar manifesting pathologies of harm and find the cause and relationship. ( certainly this should include autopsies as you can’t find what you don’t look for. The hospital was not interested and did not care to support this.

    Of course she asked for guidance. Just for her patients alone she about 140 cases matching the profiles she was seeing and in the VAERS literature to be particularly aware of. Clearly the hospital should have hired someone for that position alone. 330 million citizens have a right to know. She intimated that yes, many in the hospital were very concerned and seeing the same issues. She described how very time consuming this legal requirement. was, just for her cases.

    Again, and Management essentially said so, “our job from the CDC is to convince people how wonderful the vaccines are, be a team player”. This is in direct contradiction to her legal obligation to help track and monitor potential harmful and deadly complications from a novel experimental shot, and be scientific about the shots and there effects.

    And management added, but you can do your own reports. Clearly they could not have cared less weather she did or not, and were guilty of gross negligence of their primary duty, the health of their patients.

    She also revealed how vaccinated patients were being counted as unvaccinated, simply because they were outside of their system. So they are being assumed to be unvaccinated. The patients were not even being asked. ( applied to both Covid patients and potential adverse event patients) We know that this neglect was fine with the CDC. They do not require that information.

    Management was aware of her doing other reports and did not stop her for sometime.
    When a new procedure was put out it had potential deadly consequences. She did a memo correcting that, sitting the study she read.

    Now I would have handled it differently. I was acutely aware of the need to request or write in the correct manner to protect myself and force an answer addressing the issue.
    ( peoples life’s did not usually depend on me however) After the meeting I. Would likely have, in writing, written down exactly what the problem with the procedure placed by the hospital was, siting the study, and detailed the deadly potential for not following it, and asked management what I should have done, in writing.

    It is likely that I would have done this first, more aware of the potential politics. For instance I was asked to close off a 300 foot by 30 foot end of a 100,000 square foot convention facility that was under a superstructure canopy but open to the bay on one side. Something we would be expected to do for multiple trade shows.

    I did some simple calculations on the potential wind loads. ( the only algebra I ever
    learned) and wrote management that I could put up the canvas barrier, drive hilti bolts into the building support structure, but could not guarantee the potential wind loads would not possibly snap the cables, and suggested that this was likely a job that required professional engineering. They asked me do do it anyway, and I did, but I had this in writing at least, and made a mental note to check the weather forecast every time this was up. After doing this about four times over an 18 month period the facility permanently enclosed the end with a steel framed glass wall.

    Had she written such a letter to management they would have been forced to address the issue. ( They would yet certainly consider her a problem). Management was, in my view, extremely negligent and irresponsible in this entire manner. And because they were following CDC policy – mantra, the vaccines are great, get your shots.

  220. another ian says:

    For something differernt

    “According to The Seattle Times, the go-to paper on all things Boeing, Boeing’s chief technical test pilot on the 737 Max at the time, Mark Forkner is about to be charged.

    Hear Maximus tell the story:

    The latest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnsNTj0SdhE

    His lead up vid from Jan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQlMiRDiyhc&t=0s


  221. another ian says:

    “Let’s Take the FBI at Their Word
    September 19, 2021 | Sundance | 275 Comments”


  222. another ian says:

    “‘Cry Macho’ Review: Clint Eastwood’s Lessons on Being a Man”


    IIRC the latest, greatest wokest from Hollywood haven’t been doing so well. Be a real kick in their arse if this does.

  223. The True Nolan says:

    @another ian: Ouch! Good link to the FBI article. I was surprised that the role of the FBI in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was not mentioned. The man who made the bomb was working with the FBI at the time. He requested that he be allowed to make a fake bomb but his handlers told him to make a REAL bomb. Luckily for him, he recorded his phone conversations.

  224. philjourdan says:

    @Another Ian – I use to trust the FBI. Nevermore. Sundance is correct. The FBI is the terrorist organization, and the rot goes completely through the organization. The rank and file are complicit either actively pursuing terrorist actions, or by their silence. This country would be better off without the FBI.

  225. another ian says:

    Try this!

  226. H.R. says:

    Brief note: There now exists three hillbilly backscratchers in this World.

    Based on customer feedback, the bottle caps were not only glued in place, but secured with a #2 x 1/2″ round head brass wood screw. They ain’t goin’ nowhere.

    This 3rd one carries a – not one – but TWO-year warranty unless used for defensive purposes.

    Money back guarantee if there’s an itch you can’t scratch with this puppy.

  227. Ossqss says:

    @HR, I musta got a prototype. I secured the rest of them with SS staples just tonight. :-)

    On another note, watched the Mark Levin monologue earlier on FOX and it would be worth a watch.

  228. H.R. says:

    @Ossqss – If you got the second one, that was one heck of a short production run.

    I really did wonder about the glue being ‘permanent’ enough. No clue until I got your feednack. Thanks.

    #3 is all secure.

  229. E.M.Smith says:


    What? No comments on my “Geology Can Opener”?

    @Another Ian:

    I’m liking those pipes!

    BTW, liked the bottom part of that Babylon Bee link @Jo’s, where it spoofs the iPhone and that the next one will only unlock for the vaxxed ;-)

  230. Ossqss says:

    @HR, don’t get me wrong, I simply secured the ones left. There were no other failures. Additionally, the single glue failure may have been attributed to a Mosquito assault defense. Just sayin :-)

    All good Bro! The Mosquito did perish in the end regardless.

  231. Ossqss says:

    I would add, I have several beer cap outlines permanently embedded in my thigh. I did remove the influence quickly upon impact. Kind of like a tattoo. Word up > LOL

  232. H.R. says:

    @E.M. – I have one of those too, but have never had an opener failure. Scout training is to always be prepared, so I was never without a church key in the days before pull tabs.

    They used to have a box of the stamped ones on the counter at the register, just in case you needed one. Need one? Take one. Some places charged a nickel. But then pull tabs came along and those stamped openers disappeared.

    BTW, those old give-away openers are probably collectible now. I haven’t seen one in years, even in flea markets. They’re all in dumps or under a foot or two of dirt out in the woods somewhere now. About the only place you’d find one is in some garage junk drawer here and there, and a lot of those got pitched because, on the decadal drawer cleanout it was “Eh, what do I need this for now?”

  233. Steve C says:

    @E.M. – “Geology Can Opener”: Very gneiss.
    I’ll get me coat …

  234. jim2 says:

    On other events in the world, Europe’s energy supply is crashing. They are reaping the advantages of a “green” energy system. Ya!

    As some pointed out, the crude equivalent for Dutch natural gas prices is now exceeding the highs seen for Brent oil during 2008. Shortages of natural gas across Europe have triggered sharp gains in power prices for consumers across the continent and the U.K., as well as forcing up coal and carbon emissions prices.

    To cope with electricity bills that have been surging in Spain since the summer, for example, customers have been doing laundry at midnight and other nonpeak hours and trying to trim usage overall. Under pressure to reduce those bills, the Spanish government recently drew up a plan to raid the “extraordinary profits” and tax cuts of the country’s energy companies, who have vowed to fight back.

    Shares of Spain’s Iberdrola Endesa Portugal’s EDP and were all down by 3% or more on Wednesday. The electricity sector was one of the weakest sectors in Europe, with the Stoxx Europe 600 index sliding 0.5% to 465.39.

    In the U.K., meanwhile, a major fire at a converter station in Kent on Wednesday knocked out a high-voltage power cable that imports electricity to France. There were fears of an extended outage of that cable, with a market price for the U.K.’s main electricity auctions reportedly surging to a record price of £2,500/MWh for peak demand hours on Wednesday. That is from an average £40/MWh.


  235. philjourdan says:

    @Another Ian – re: Sebastian Gorka – another brilliant one!

  236. The True Nolan says:

    @HR: Regarding the hillbilly back scratcher, I know I have missed a few posts about it, so this suggestion may have already been mentioned. Don’t use those 1/2 inch screws. Use 2 inch deck screws so the points come out the back. Good for those really DEEP itches. Also, better for that defensive use, even though it would void the warranty.

    @jim2: “They are reaping the advantages of a “green” energy system.”

    They have sown the wind farm and are reaping the whirlwind. (Apologies to the Book of Hosea.)

  237. E.M.Smith says:


    I have an itch in my left ear canal… will it scratch there?… Is that part of “everywhere”?… 8-)

  238. H.R. says:

    @E.M. – Yes, it will do the ear canal if you jamb it in hard enough. You probably won’t survive the experience. But the itch would be gone.

    Similar to the tree/forest/sound question:

    If a mosquito bites a dead guy in that spot on the back that nobody can reach, does it still itch?

  239. cdquarles says:

    If the guy is dead, by definition, it can’t, for him, itch any more ;p.

  240. Ossqss says:

    @HR, here is a complementary marketing idea for you to package with the scratcher :-)

  241. H.R. says:

    Yah, but… by definition, don’t mosquito bites itch, cdq?

    And now you want to bring up the ‘dead guy’ factor?

    I just figured philosophers have been arguing the wrong questions like, does the dead guy still make a good paperweight?

  242. jim2 says:

    Here’s everything you need to know about the Gabby Petito case:

  243. E.M.Smith says:


    OK then, next time we get together, I’m in! I can jam shit up spaces like nobody’s business. Just ask my… oh, never mind…

    Per Mosquitos:

    I have a blow torch and I’m not afraid to use it. I mean, really, searing pain for a day, or an itch that lasts for a week and you make it into a hole in your body and still dig at it? No brainier choice…

    Besides, I still have the other ear that doesn’t itch 8-|

    @Per Dead Guys:

    My solution is simple, and obvious:

    Does he scratch it? No scratchy, no itchy. Really. An Itch From Hell? I’m scratching even if I am dead…


    I think you left out a linky linky…

  244. H.R. says:

    I’ll make you one, E.M. and you can scratch whatever itches.

    Per dead guys: I specified it was in that place you can’t scratch. Just because he’s dead doesn’t mean he’s stupid and knows better than to attempt to try to scratch that spot.

    Where’s one of those ancient Greek philosophers when you need one? Oh, that’s right. They’re dead. Maybe they have an itch they can’t scratch, eh?

    I think you may be right that hell isn’t all fire and brimstone. It just may be an unscratchable itch. That would really suck for eternity.

  245. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – I do not think jim2 left out anything. Sorry she is dead, but it is just another crime of passion. and I am tired of getting 4-walled by it, while hundreds of Americans are being held hostage in Afghanistan, and grandpa gropes is taking a vacation. That story is WAY over played – to distract from Biden’s crapola.

  246. H.R. says:

    Gabby who?

    I had no idea what jim2 was referring to. philjourdan gave me all the clue I needed, though.

    I’m guessing it’s some soap opera of a case that’s taking place in the center ring of the media 3-ring circus.

  247. E.M.Smith says:


    I think it isn’t in the “center ring”, it is over in the corner of the ring….

    Oh, wait, corner… ring… um….

  248. Ossqss says:

    C’mon, skeeters see in the IR spectrum, so if your not warm, you ain’t getting bit. They also are attracted to CO2, so if you ain’t breathing, you ain’t getting bit. They are also blood suckers, no pulse, no meal. Just sayiin>

    Moral of the story is, not to get bit, but for all the right reasons :-}


  249. jim2 says:

    EXCLUSIVE… Maricopa County Supervisor Steve Chucri Caught in Leaked Recording: The Maricopa County Voting Machine Company Audit and Recount – “Was Pretty BULLSH*T By The Way” (AUDIO)


  250. E.M.Smith says:

    @Phil Jourdan & Jim2:

    I have no idea who Gabby Petito is. I have no idea what “story” it is about.

    I assumed (my bad…) that Jim2 intended to point at something that would say want “everything I needed to know” was, or at least who / what the whole thing was about.

    Let’s try this:

    Here’s everything you need to know about survival in a snow storm:

    Does that do it for you? Or are you left wondering if there was a link missing?

    Are you prepared, now, to survive in a snow storm?


    IF it is a Media Circus Story, then maybe it IS all I need to know. But without even having any understanding what it is, I don’t even know that.

  251. Ossqss says:


    I agree, your post is on target.

  252. Ossqss says:

    Ha, we live in times of fantasy. LOL :-)

  253. H.R. says:

    @Ossqss – Never underestimate kinky mosquitos that have a ‘thing’ for dead people😜

  254. another ian says:

    More from the woodwork

    “Via Yuri Deigin – Well, this is interesting. So EcoHealth and WIV *were* proposing to create novel cleavage sites in SARS-like bat CoVs to possibly use them as self-disseminating animal vaccines.”

    More at


  255. jim2 says:

    EMS – sorry to discombobulate you. I was attempting sarcasm utilizing (what I thought was) an artful play on negative space. YMMV, obviously.

  256. jim2 says:

    One of the more controversial events to happen in the world of astronomy occurred when Pluto was demoted as an official planet in 2006. Now, one of the planetary scientists who lobbied the fiercest for the celestial object’s demotion says he found an actual planet worthy of recognition.

    Caltech astronomer and planet killer Mike Brown claims he has found evidence of a potential planet in the Kuiper Belt roughly 2.7 billion miles from Earth, reports The Daily Beast. He explained to the publication that the object is possibly “six times more massive than the Earth and the fifth largest planet in our solar system.”


  257. jim2 says:

    What the hole?

    Scientists with the Copernicus Atmosphere Monitoring Service announced that the hole in the ozone layer over the South Pole is now larger than Antarctica, according to a press release from the organization. Researchers say that the hole has grown “considerably” in the past two weeks, and is currently larger than 75 percent of holes in the ozone layer since 1979.

    “[The hole] seems pretty similar to last year’s, which also wasn’t really exceptional until early September, but then turned into one of the largest and longest-lasting ozone holes in our data record later in the season,” said Copernicus’ director Vincent-Henri Peuch in the press release. “Now our forecasts show that this year’s hole has evolved into a rather larger than usual one.”


  258. jim2 says:

    A team of students from the Eindhoven University of Technology in the Netherlands have created an awesome-looking RV that depends entirely on massive solar panels mounted to its roof for power.

    The students claim their solar RV, dubbed Stella Vita, can cover 454 miles in one (sunny) day using solar energy, an impressive feat for a vehicle that can double as a home away from home.


  259. E.M.Smith says:

    @Per Pluto:

    Good luck with that whole “New Planet IN the Kuiper Belt” thing…

    The whole rational for de-listing Pluto was that it was a KBO so had not “cleared the orbit” of other stuff. So, by his own definition, and by that design goal: There can be NO PLANET EVER in the Kuiper Belt. Nor in the Oort cloud.

    Now I’m of the opinion that is just a daft and horridly broken definition for 2 simple reasons.

    1) There’s a whole lot of “junk” around all the other planets too. They had to make a special exception in the definition for the Trojan Asteroids otherwise Jupiter would not be a planet. Just dumb.

    2) By that definition, ALL of the planets were not planets until they suddenly were when the crap falling on them fell below some level that is not defined. We STILL get impacts from comets and asteroids and meteors and all manner of stuff, but that doesn’t count? When did it stop counting? Late Heavy Bombardement? No planets existed before then, then they were? Or sometime after that? (If so, when, exactly?)


    The Jupiter trojans, commonly called Trojan asteroids or simply Trojans, are a large group of asteroids that share the planet Jupiter’s orbit around the Sun.

    Does this look like “cleared” to you:

    What they ought to have done, IMHO, is pick some other arbitrary thing, like self rounding for a rocky mass, and just put a fixed limit on that. So call it 2000 km or 2500 km or “whatever” diameter. IF they really wanted to kill off Pluto, make it 2k. But just have a size where the definition is not subject to changing the class of an object over time as debris arrives and / or is cleared.

    The present definition depends on when a process is “complete enough” but doesn’t clearly state when that event is done. The planet isn’t until it sort of is, then it is, unless it isn’t. Just daft.

  260. E.M.Smith says:

    Per “artful play”

    To have that work for folks who have no clue what you are talking about, make the negative space appear. Like:

    Everything that’s going on in Biden’s head:

    ” …… ”
    ” ”

  261. Steve C says:

    Rather nice that the “Trojans” and the “Greeks” seem to be at about +/- 60 degrees from Jupiter, though. And the “Hildas” more-or-less opposite, if a bit inside Jupiter’s radius. It doesn’t half look like some sort of resonance phenomenon.

  262. Ossqss says:

    This Dem maneuver will probably catch some hair on fire out there.


  263. E.M.Smith says:

    @Steve C:

    Lagrange points.

  264. Steve C says:

    @E.M. – With the Hildas approximating one of the unstable positions? Nicer than I thought. (And why Hildas? – Greeks & Trojans ref Jupiter, OK, but I don’t recall coming across the Hildas in the mythology)

  265. YMMV says:

    jim2 20 September 2021 at 9:49 pm: Here’s everything you need to know about the Gabby Petito case:

    I got the joke. good one. keyword: ‘need’

    On the other hand, it is exactly what the people need. It’s reality TV, but it’s not fake.
    Suspense. Detective stories, crime stories, CSI, thrillers, there is some subconscious need for this. vicarious, unlike the usual political bad news which I would rather escape from.

  266. jim2 says:

    It’s pretty sad that political news is more disturbing than crime stories … generally speaking.

  267. jim2 says:

    In a recorded phone call on January 22, Chucri shared what he really thinks happened before he agreed to perform an audit of only 2% of the ballots, and fought against audit efforts in unity with the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.

    Chucri: I think it was done through dead people voting. I think it was multifaceted.

    Busch: They threw everything but the kitchen sink at these elections. The information, the data we have is incredible. USA Today has put out a hit piece on our organization stating that the information we provided at our rally was conspiracy and unfounded truth. We have the evidence. We have the voter rolls. We have it, but they don’t want to admit it and you’re right it was multi-layered. It was dead voters

    Chucri: Ballot harvesting, ballot harvesting!

    Steve Chucri knew exactly what types of security issues were encountered, yet he did nothing to look into this.


  268. Simon Derricutt says:

    EM – just a note you’ve set comments off on the latest RV post.

  269. Doug Jones says:

    Ed, I can tell you from experience that you absolutely should NOT use Allstate moving, https://www.allstatemoving.us/

    They picked up our stuff July 24 in Tehachapi, stored it in LA, and nearly two months later they STILL claim they can’t get it onto a truck to Florida. I’m sitting in a camp chair at a folding table, wondering if I’ll ever see my antique Belgian desk again.

  270. another ian says:

    “Now It Is TRULY Coming Apart
    [Comments enabled]

    Well well….

    Project Veritas now has an on-the-record federal HHS employee blowing this whistle.

    UAB Hospital in Alabama dropped their vaccine mandate after being threatened with a lawsuit. (They may attempt to play too-cute-by-half with the OSHA rules but if their original position was a loser, so is that one.)

    Further, read this:”


  271. E.M.Smith says:


    No idea how that happened. I had to, just now, learn where you do that so I could undo it. I’ll have to watch for it in the future to see if maybe WordPress has changed the default value… So Thanks, and comments are now working on it.

    @Another Ian:

    Someone needs to do that same to Cal-OSHA. Yes, California has it’s own little dictatorial OSHA that has mandated the Jab to Work… So I’m no longer working.

  272. a says:

    More sombre reading

    “The more things change, the more they stay the same…”

    “Very few generations, ever, can lay claim to having witnessed two different empires fall. Ours will be among that select group. Within my lifetime, we have seen the Fall of the Soviet Union – with, as it happens, nary a shot fired – and we will almost surely live to see the Fall of the American Empire.”

    More and link at


  273. E.M.Smith says:


    We older folks also lived through the slow decline fall of the British Empire post W.W.II.

    Pakistan being a Dominion until 1956… and others even a bit later.

    Then wasn’t the fall of China to Mao a fall of an Empire? Not one with a lot of overseas holdings, but of the parts of China… Technically the Qing dynasty ended (after restoration) in 1917, so only folks over 104 will have been around for that one. But if a Republic can not be counted as an empire, then the USA can’t be counted either… Just sayin’.

  274. another ian says:


  275. H.R. says:

    California will issue one mandate too many, and those who haven’t already left and are teetering on the edge will say, “That’s it. That’s the last straw, Ethel. Let’s pack it up and just leave. We’ll find work somewhere.”

    There are so many renters in California, due to sky high housing prices, that they can just pack up the car or a truck, turn the key in to the landlord, and leave.

    I’m not sure we’ll see any great confrontations in California. No one has to march on the Statehouse. They only have to up and leave.

  276. E.M.Smith says:


    A lot of renters already did that. Signs of “Help Wanted” for all sorts of low wage jobs done by the renting class… It’s the folks with a home to sell and $8 k moving expenses who are leaving now. Was already starting in this neighborhood 2 years ago. Now it seems like every time I leave the house I see a POD in a driveway or a truck loading up at a house.

    Like I said, Spousal Twin sold and just left. Spouses 1/2 is in her account now. She’s on a plane to Disneyworld in about 1 month, and not coming back. Between now and then I’m pitching out the trash, loading up the keepers (in “something”) then leaving too. Sometime ill determined in there the house gets fixed up and sold, or sold and fixed up.

    We’ll see if the Gov. Neusance re-installation accelerates things at all. I know the “lockdown, shut-up, and get jabbed” mandates have… Folks who have closed / lost their businesses are also very prone to just leaving. Pack up your exercise gear and rent a new building in Reno or Phoenix or Fort Worth and get back to life.

    Anyone retiring tends to just exit too.

    But there’s a lot of money still buying…

  277. another ian says:

    On cricketing terms – caught in slips

    “Well, well, well… FBI agents identified from gay pride parade photographs?”


  278. another ian says:

    FWIW for inspection

    “OT for this posting but you might like to know, from Vox blog a link to a story from Riverside, CA research into ways to have plants, your lettuce, spinach, etc, have mRNA spike as part of their genome. Vaxxed with your salad. Now, how could anything like this go sideways? Gets loose in the wild, animals eat the plants, pass on the vaxx, in 5 or 10 years or sooner, boom an Earth minus the humans. I almost wish now my near misses with mortality in Viet Nam had been successful.



  279. another ian says:

    In comments on that photo ID thread

    “The Gaystapo”

  280. another ian says:

    Obviously you CAN pile shit that high!

    “The FBI’s Incurable Rot

    The bureau is an institution with no shame, no remorse, and no accountability. There’s no fix for that.”

    ” (As Lee Smith recently noted, the FBI “has been used for a quarter of a century as the place to clean up the Clintons’ dirt.”)”


    Via SDA

  281. Simon Derricutt says:

    EM – I’ve heard that the big investors are buying up property which is pushing the prices up. Safer home for the wealth than most investments. No links saved for that. Thus maybe the optimum time to sell the house in Ca anyway. Not your problem if Ca then empties and the house value drops. I hope it’s also a good time to buy some land to live on elsewhere; maybe some plot not in a township won’t be seen as desirable to others and so the price won’t inflate so fast.

  282. E.M.Smith says:


    There’s clearly some of that. Folks looking to either do “Flipping” and / or become landlords were frequent in the “not on the market yet” bunch of folks who wanted to see the house…

  283. YMMV says:

    Another article about this:
    “Leaked docs show DARPA considered funding $14mn project to infect Chinese bats with altered coronaviruses in 2018 – reports”

    Release infected bats into the wild? What could go wrong?
    But wait … Peter Daszak is in charge! What could not go wrong!

  284. jim2 says:

    In both a January phone call and a March meeting, Chucri expressed his doubts about Dominion software and his belief that it should never be used again.

    He said it was a “screw up” for them to use Dominion after Texas declined to use the software due to critical security concerns.

    Chucri also said that he’s expressed these concerns to the Chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, and that County Recorder Stephen Richer was on his side.

    This is damning new audio. It puts into question these officials’ public statements with their private comments.


  285. another ian says:

    Some geology behind our earthquake


    And in another comment there

    “Were not earthquakes a sure sign of a soon-to-be fallen leader in ancient Chinese times?”

  286. H.R. says:

    I’ve got the solution to vaccine passports.

    It seems you’ll need them if you’re a citizen or if you fly into the country legally. But if you come into the country illegally through the Southern border, no vaccine passport needed.

    So when asked, you hunch down look around furtively, give a pleading look and in your best fake foreign accent conspiratorially say, “Hey. I just crossed the border illegally. Don’t turn me in to immigration. Give me a break, here.”

    Or perhaps, in a heavy Mexican accent, “Passport? Passport?!? I don’ need no steenkin’ passport. El Presidente Bideen say so. He say com on in.”

  287. philjourdan says:

    @HR – I already beat you to it. I told EM to ditch his ID and if stopped, just claim to be an illegal! And no accent needed since they are coming from all countries.

    Besides, the biggest group coming in now is Haitians. And not Haitians from Haiti, but Haitians that already escaped Haiti and now friends in the US are saying “The borders are open! Come on in!”. Before they cited Grandpa Gropes. Now they are citing ChuckUschumer. They are interchangeable in any event.

  288. another ian says:

    “Gentlemen, if you’ve had the jab you might want to keep an eye on your onions. Reports indicate some potential problems.”

    More and links at


  289. Compu Gator says:

    New Surgeon General of Florida announced by Gov. DeSantis
    Not a Mask-Mandate or “Vaccine” Idealogue!
    MSM indignant !


    Many local MSM stories feature photos of DeSantis. Yet the new guy was introduced to the media yesterday, and of course, they photographed him. Sooo, why aren’t readers shown the real subject of the story, hmmm? 

    Might it be because MSM wants to build a case against the new guy, before it becomes publicly realized that he’s not some white medical extremist from a Southern Land-Grant college. Ummm, no.  His bona fides include M.D. from Haavaad, professorship at UCLA. And I’ve had such a strange day today, why, I almost forgot: He’s black !  Photo above headline, here:


  290. jim2 says:

    I’m happy to report that my onions are BAU.

  291. another ian says:


    Scenario 8.5?

  292. Compu Gator says:

    Aside from the conclusive photo of Dr. Joseph Ladapo [⚕], the USA Today story I cited recently was made useless by the usual MSM lies, e.g.: dismissing new Fla. S.G. Dr. Ladapo because of his association with America’s Frontline Doctors.

    USA Today clarified its editorial opinion by linking to its own hit-piece on America’s Frontline Doctors from nearly 14 months ago, promoting conclusions from Big-Pharma’s, U.N & WHO’s, and MSM-lapdog alleged “science”,  e.g. [†]:

    [….] the group that calls itself America’s Frontline Doctors: touting the alleged benefits of hydroxychloroquine as a cure for COVID-19 and shooting down the science that has shown it does not have a clinical benefit for COVID-19 patients and even has increased risks.

    Am I making too Wild-Aß a Guess that it’s the “science” touted from the grossly misdesigned study that called for HCQ to be used damnably late in the progression of COVID-19 for each individual in the study. That major design error made despite the correct parameters, in a word: “early!” for administering HCQ being widely disseminated by genuine experienced care-givers of COVID-19 patients? And citing the unquestionable demigod alleged expert, as promoted by Big-Pharma, U.N & WHO, and MSM-lapdogs, incl. USA Today: Dr. Faux-Xi, not yet being known to have directly treated any COVID-19 patients, never mind doing so successfully?

    Note ⚕ :  Perhaps best accessed with this URL :  https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/09/21/PTAL/96d70652-c508-4bfa-b396-05e37c418f1a-Dr._Joseph_Ladapo.jpg (1920×1080: 112.68 KB).

    Note † :  “‘America’s Frontline Doctors’ may be real doctors, but experts say they don’t know what they’re talking about”,  by Ryan W. Miller & Joel Shannon. USA Today, published July 30, 2020, updated July 31, 2020 :  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/07/30/americas-frontline-doctors-tout-hydroxychloroquine-covid-who-they/5535096002/.

  293. David A says:

    So does all the media play fear and psychological woke games?
    While outside I noticed heavy smoke due north. I am in Riverside County California.
    So went to see what’s up. First google California search
    Triple digit San Bernardino county Temperatures as firefighters battle blaze. Then talks about a 100 acre fire well contained yesterday. Then says that Cal Fire told everyone in LA and my county that the smoke was from central California fires and stop calling, or something like that. No way says I. So first…
    County Temperatures

    Nada above low 90s.

    Then found a site that said yes, the 100 acre fire was fine, but two new ones started in last 24 hours. No information. So went to satellite hot spot map to see all infrared signatures…
    Note how almost EVERY fire is very very near a road…


    A nowhere near triple digit today.
    B. Smoke is central north California.

    Media impression, overwhelming heat and MASSIVE fires.

  294. David A says:

    Well he double hockey sticks, I can’t do links any more

  295. David A says:

    Frontline Doctors, Doctors for Covid ethics. other organizations are all heavily marginalized by the statists.
    Their plan is this…
    As crap, Trump will win re-election
    So go down, or double down. They double downed hard.
    Go after Trump with all.
    Portray average US middle road conservative as radical nut jobs.
    Censor all opposing views.
    Marginalize anything slipping through the cracks.
    Cheat like hell.
    Use, if not created from the top, Covid to size power. Inflame fear big time.
    Create all the FUD possible. Let BLM and ANTIFA go crazy.
    Divide America as much as possible.
    Open the borders.
    Embarras the US internationally.
    Free the radicals everywhere.
    Use every bit of the mostly successful March Through the Institutions as possible now, double down on Everything, Trump scared the hell out of them.
    Triple down on CAGW, and pressure every local institution to full activity.

    And here we are. Just my view.

  296. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A:

    I’ve noticed that if you just assume the goal is the “take down” and plunder of the USA by folks of evil intent and no morality, it all makes perfect sense…

  297. another ian says:

    Serious reading IMO

    “COVID and the world balance of power – an unholy relationship?”


  298. another ian says:

    “Once Upon A Time…*
    [Comments enabled]

    … in a not-so-tiny nation called Spain, a nursing home had a nasty virus get into it.

    It was March of 2020. The nasty virus was called Covid-19. And this nursing home, like so many others all over the world, was full of elderly, morbid people. The mean age of residents was 85 and 48% were over 80 years old. It was a killing field, like so many others…..

    Within three months 100% of the residents had caught the virus. Not presumed to have — proved to have.

    How do we know this? Because almost every one of them seroconverted. All but three out of 84 of them, to be precise.

    Think about that last sentence for a second.

    Almost every one of them seroconverted.

    How’s that possible? Many of them died, right? You can’t seroconvert if you’re dead.

    No. Not only did nearly none die none went to the hospital either because they rapidly figured out how to stop the virus from killing people — and did exactly that.”

    More at


  299. jim2 says:

    Conventional nuclear power is alive and well, despite what you might read elsewhere. U prices are moving up and new sources are under development. There are also multiple molten salt projects, including one in China where the goal is to build 30 of them.

    444 Operable Reactors Worldwide
    50 Units Under Construction
    57 New Reactors Connected since 2012
    3.1% CAGR Uranium Demand Growth Expected (2020-2040)

    CHINA announced that it is likely to triple nuclear power capacity by 2030

    INDIA plans for 21 new nuclear reactors by 2031

    U.A.E. completed 2 reactors; 2 units under construction

    U.K. upgrading nuclear fleet to new advanced reactors

    RUSSIA is building 36 reactors in China, India, Bangladesh, Turkey,
    Egypt, Iran, Finland, Belarus, Slovakia, Armenia, Uzbekistan and

    JAPAN 33 operable reactors, Energy Plan targeting 20-22% nuclear power, nuclear deemed essential to achieve net-zero target by 2050

    is completing two new AP-1000 reactors in Georgia and has maintained
    a 20% market share for 30 years with power uprates and efficiency = to 32
    new reactors as electricity demand grew over 36% from 1989-2019

    –A Stealth Growth Story!


  300. AC Osborn says:

    another ian says: 24 September 2021 at 11:15 am
    Amazing how long that took to be published.

  301. AC Osborn says:

    EM, re Globalists and the NWO via the UN.
    The latest Agenda, World information Supression coming our way soon.


  302. David A says:

    Another Ian, read the article and yes, I think valid. The one line about internal actors supporting this is key. Trump had them dead to rights. His bilateral and trilateral trade deals were working well. Remember how they did all possible to keep Trump from Russia. I think Trump had two primary keys with China beyond that he was already winning in parts of Southeast Asia, Japan, Mexico and even South America. Those keys were India. India was a done deal with Trumps relationship there. ( ignorant conservative people, not seeing global financial implications, whined when Trump continued to bring Indian students to America for work. They could not see the big picture. India was in. The other was Russia. The leftist traitors made any advancement by Trump towards Russia impossible. Trump needed another term to convince Russia to not go in the direction they were, because that move was blocked in the first Term.

    Trump was winning. He dragged China back to the table twice. Sans Covid, they were done. He was dragging Europe along to. I do think he did not fully understand the depth of betrayal of America by the statist one world crowd. He tended to trust and the forces against him are very very large. I thought he played the global chess game very well, but underestimated the corruption.

  303. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I’m going to paste in the “cure” they used here, just so that it does not get lost if the other site got taken down:

    So what did these few nursing homes do that nobody has done since and nobody reported out at the time?

    1. Early start of treatment, regardless of the severity of patient symptoms.

    – Antihistamines every 12 h: dexchlorpheniramine 2 mg, cetirizine 10 mg or loratadine 10 mg.
    – Azithromycin 500 mg orally every 24 h for 3 days if there is rapid improvement, and for 6 days if the duration of symptoms is prolonged.
    – If pain or fever, acetaminophen 650 mg/6–8 h.
    – Nasal washing and gargling with sodium bicarbonate water (half a glass of warm water with half a teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate).

    2. Patients with mild or recent-onset symptoms (cough, fever, general malaise, anosmia, polymyalgia):

    – Antihistamines every 12 h: dexchlorpheniramine 2 mg, cetirizine 10 mg or loratadine 10 mg.
    – Azithromycin 500 mg orally every 24 h for 3 days if there is rapid improvement, and for 6 days if the duration of symptoms is prolonged.
    – If pain or fever, acetaminophen 650 mg/6–8 h.
    – Nasal washing and gargling with sodium bicarbonate water (half a glass of warm water with half a teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate).

    3. If symptoms of severity (dyspnea, breathing difficulty, mild or moderate chest pain, with SpO2 >80%, heart rate <100 beats per minute at any time of the process):

    – Antihistamines + Azithromycin (see mild treatment management)
    – Levofloxacin 500 mg/12 h, up to 14 days of antibiotic treatment from diagnosis.
    – Mepifilin solution, 50 mg/8 h as a bronchodilator, until subjective improvement. Patients with previous lung disease (asthma or COPD) used their usual bronchodilators.
    – If the patient experienced increased breathing difficulty, prednisone 1 mg/kg/day divided into two doses until clinical improvement, and then it was slowly tapered down.

    4. Prophylactic treatment for close contacts, including all asymptomatic residents:

    – Antihistamines at the same dose as symptomatic patients.

    Look at that top line.

    Cetrizine is otherwise known as Zyrtec. Loratadine is otherwise known as Claritin. Dexchlorpheniramine is not often-used in the US anymore, but it used to be. The other two core drugs were Azithromycin and Levofloxacin, both common antibiotics with the first being the infamous "Zpak" from the HCQ+Zinc+Zpak combination that a fraudulent study was used to discredit.

    Both of the first two antihistamines are available over the counter in most nations including the United States. The dosing they used is twice that on the label. The two antibiotics are both available anywhere for little money.

    Before they started treating people three residents died. The entire group of them had the common maladies of old age — hypertension, diabetes, COPD, cardiovascular disease. Most were using a huge range of existing drugs for their conditions (5 or more.)

    As soon as they started treating people the following happened:

    All of our patients evolved satisfactorily and were recovered at the beginning of June. No adverse effects were recorded in any patient and no one required hospital admission. At the end of June, 100% of the residents and almost half of the workers had positive serology for COVID-19, most of them with past infection.

    It looks to me like something was lost on line number 3, so I’m going to check links to the original if I can find it and check the copy quality.

    UPDATE: The Paper:


    Pulm Pharmacol Ther. 2021 Apr; 67: 101989.
    Published online 2021 Jan 16. doi: 10.1016/j.pupt.2021.101989
    PMCID: PMC7833340
    PMID: 33465426

    Antihistamines and azithromycin as a treatment for COVID-19 on primary health care – A retrospective observational study in elderly patients

    Juan Ignacio Morán Blanco,a,b Judith A. Alvarenga Bonilla,a,b Sakae Homma,c Kazuo Suzuki,d Philip Fremont-Smith,e and Karina Villar Gómez de las Herasf,∗

    Given the limited scientific knowledge existing in March 2020 about SARS-CoV-2 and effective COVID-19 treatments or protocols, we developed our own clinical guidelines for the management of patients with COVID-19. These guidelines are based on our clinical experience in the management of severe respiratory infections, especially in patients with underlying high risks pathologies such as chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), asthma, and bronchiolitis.

    Antihistamines are old drugs commonly used in Primary Care to treat all kind of allergies. Second generation antihistamines such as cetirizine, loratadine, ebastine, bilastine, levocetirizine, fexofenadine, desloratadine, mizolastine and rupatadine, have a good safety profile without adverse effects when updosed up to four times the standard dose [2]. The use of antihistamines is widespread in our area due to the high prevalence of winter and spring allergies, and for the prevention of catarrhal relapses in children and adults at risk. We included antihistamines for the treatment of all patients after observing that when added to the initial treatment, our patients had a notable improvement in 24–48 h.

    Azithromycin and quinolones are also part of the therapeutic arsenal of Primary Care. Azithromycin is an antibiotic widely used for the treatment of respiratory infections due to its safety profile, comfortable dosage, good tolerance and a low incidence of treatment-related adverse events. Furthermore, dosage adjustment is not necessary for elderly patients with mild to moderate renal impairment, and it has demonstrated effectiveness in the treatment of patients with community-acquired pneumonia
    3.2. Complementary diagnostic tests
    Until mid-April PCR or serology diagnostics were not available in health centers. Therefore, most patients who became symptomatic since the beginning of March were diagnosed based on symptoms. When available, PCR confirmation was performed for new cases that emerged (after April 28th).

    Our health center does not have the facilities to perform chest X-rays. Due to the frailty of the elderly population coupled with the collapse of the health system, our patients were treated directly at the nursing homes without the possibility of complementary diagnostic tests. A rapid test serological study was carried out in mid April 2020 to all the surviving residents included in this study. The rapid tests used were 2019-nCoV IgG/IgM Detection Kit (Colloidal Gold-Based) Vazyme Biotech (nursing home A) and BIOZEK COVID-19 IGG/IGM rapid test (nursing home B). The results obtained indicate that all patients in this study had SARS-CoV-2 antibodies.
    3.4. Clinical management of COVID-19 used in the nursing homes of Yepes

    Yup, found the missing bit under 3.4 and added it above. It looks like he left out the #2 stuff and had the #3 there.

    A daily telephone assessment was performed until recovery. If recurrence of symptoms, azithromycin 500 mg/24h was prescribed for 3 more days.

    All patients were trained in techniques of respiratory physiotherapy (mainly deep inspiration and expiration).

    Caregivers were given home isolation instructions which included the use of facemask and were prescribed antihistamines at the same dose as patients.

    Fig. 1 represents the flow chart of the complete treatment protocol we used in Primary Care. This treatment protocol was used to treat patients residing in both nursing homes as well as the general community.
    The mean age of the surviving 20 patients in nursing home B was 85 years, range (69–96), with a median of 85 years. All of these patients were symptomatic and were treated early with antihistamines (dexchlorpheniramine, loratadine or cetirizine) and azithromycin. Five of these residents were also treated with levofloxacin due to mild or moderate symptoms and high-risk pathologies. Two residents with moderate symptoms also required low-concentration oxygen therapy and oral corticosteroids. None of the patients treated progressed to severe disease, required hospital referral, or had adverse effects related to treatment. All residents recovered in a few days after beginning treatment, and were confirmed later as COVID-19 cases by seroconversion by rapid test when available.

    Among the 44 caregivers in nursing home A, 18 had positive serology, and 12 of them had mild symptoms.

    Of the 14 caregivers in nursing home B – all under 50 years of age – 7 presented positive serology by rapid test: 4 were asymptomatic and 3 were mildly symptomatic. The protocol of treatment and home isolation was applied to all, with recovery in a few days and without known sequelae.

    All of our patients evolved satisfactorily and were recovered at the beginning of June. No adverse effects were recorded in any patient and no one required hospital admission. At the end of June, 100% of the residents and almost half of the workers had positive serology for COVID-19, most of them with past infection.

    A paper well worth saving and distributing, IMHO. Also, note to self, stock up on those OTC meds…


    Further down, this bit on mechanism is interesting:

    Regarding antihistamines, in recent years molecules with antihistamine activity have been identified as having powerful antiviral properties, inhibiting the entry of certain viruses into the target cell, such as the Ebola virus
    (filovirus) [28], or the hepatitis C virus (flavivirus) [[29], [30], [31]], or by other mechanisms [32]. Several H1 receptor antagonists have demonstrated inhibitory properties on the production and expression of interleukins, chemokines, and other cytokines [33]. Specifically, cetirizine decreases interleukin production [34,35].

    According to the mechanisms of action described, these drugs would act synergistically in the early stages of the disease, which is why we consider it essential to start the treatment as soon as possible. Once the virus has colonized the respiratory system, the effectiveness is probably more limited, and hence the failure of these treatments in more advanced stages of the disease, when hospital admission is necessary. In our experience, early double antibiotics were effective to control the process in cases with moderate symptoms.

  304. David A says:

    Ian, EM thanks, and once again the western world and more practice of no treatment program , go home and come back when breathing is very difficult, looks insanely evil.

    And compounded by the treatments chosen. Remember the IK study I linked earlier and how they literally took the sick elderly out of hospitals and sent them back to facilities with a treatment plan and medications that exasperated and killed them.

    Our brains have trouble grasping what has occurred. Evil or Stupid? The answer is crystallizing in a very uncomfortable direction. The E in GEB is not hyperbole.

  305. The True Nolan says:

    People keep saying “Follow the money”. Here is a lady speaking at a school board meeting in Illinois who says that public schools get extra Federal money when they force children to wear masks and follow CDC guidelines.

  306. philjourdan says:

    @EMS – Zyrtec? NO wonder my paranoid wife has not gotten the bug! She takes that year round every day! She is allergic to everything! (I am allergic to nada).

  307. philjourdan says:

    In case you have not heard, William Shatner is going where only a few dozen people have gone before! He is on Bezo’s next launch. He was the best Enterprise Commander, bar none (Stewart was a sewer).

  308. Terry Jackson says:

  309. jim2 says:

    The AZ audit count of the ballots showed Biden won. But that isn’t everything that was done. Some results have been forwarded to the AG, but it’s not the big day we hoped for. So … again … we wait. See TGP for (only a bit) more info.

  310. H.R. says:

    The latest uproar over mandatory vexxines and renewed mask mandates is the desired result of the PTB.

    Notice that there has been little said about Afghanistan? Nothing in the news and the YSM coverage only lasted just over a week. The FauXi Flu edicts are just to create a distraction here in the U.S.

    Note that there is also another narrative being pushed out. The Border Patrol is raaaaycist! They are white-privileged slave drivers cracking their whips. We have to let all those people at the border into the country because the white raaaaycist Border Patrol hates them all because of the color of their skin.

    No mention that the majority of the BP supposedly whipping those poor future Democrat voters are Hispanic (brown people) themselves and not lily white people as they they are being portrayed.

    The “Climate Change and we’re all gonna D!E” narrative is also being pushed very hard. We must, must spend as much as we can on the problem. If you are against all that money being spent to ‘Save The Planet’, you are evil and do not deserve to live.

    All of these YSM-hyped distractions are “Look at my left hand. Pay no attention to my right hand.” People upset by these distractions are supposed to be upset so they will not start looking at the big picture; the elimination of the middle class and the looting and destruction of America itself. “You will own nothing and be happy.”

  311. p.g.sharrow says:

    “We counted the ballots and Biden Won !” Well Duh!
    The problem is… at least 10% of the Ballots cast for Biden and other down ballot positions were phony, from non-existent voters, or flipped from Trump/Republican to Biden/Democrat through ballot stealing and adjudication. Large numbers of non-ballot ballots were added into the piles. It took over a week to manufacture additional ballots to add to the pile to make sure that there were enough to count for Biden.

  312. jim2 says:

    PGS – Yep, I’m hoping that sort of thing was what sent to AG.

  313. David A says:

    Tyrants stepping up the attacks against the unvaccinated
    Germany. http://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-25-covid-quarantine-camps-germany-strips-prisoners-compensation.html

    Italy. https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/italy-orders-companies-not-pay-unvaccinated-workers

    We have read about Australia and Biden’s threats.

    Croatia moves in the opposite direction, stops the vaccines…

    Ian’s earlier post about Vanguard is in-site to the leadership. A deep dive into Gates is challenging as he is said to have a staff of 30 image clean up. Bottom line is he is depopulation all the way. He claimed that he learned that dying children caused parents in the 3rd world to have more children. ( There are many problems with this theory as A it is a fifty fifty thing – minus one, plus one is right back where we started, and the KNOWN key to smaller families is cheap abundant energy and social advancement.)

    At any rate the thing about Gates is to analyze the results of his programs. Including extensive farm programs, including massive land purchases, vaccine developments, massive payments to WHO CDC, and manipulation of NGOs and Governments. He is Siri’s on steroids and so far an examination of his efforts indicate often the opposite of the purported goal as to saving lives, producing more food etc.

  314. David A says:

    Not siri, Soros on steroids. Far more money

  315. The True Nolan says:

    One more doctor reporting that many vaccine side effects are not being reported.

    “In recent weeks, I’ve personally seen multiple cases of myocarditis that occurred days after vaccination. When I’ve suggested to colleagues that we should report them to the authorities as possible vaccine side effects, the response I’ve been met with has been roughly this: “oh, yeah, maybe that’s a good idea… I don’t know how to do that”. I’ve reported the cases I’ve handled personally, but my guess, based on this reaction, is that most other cases have not been reported. Obviously, if you believe that what actually gets reported is an accurate estimate of the reality, then you will grossly underestimate the case rate.”

    Oakville, Canada announces that the unvaxxed will not be allowed to apply for marriage licenses.

  316. another ian says:

    “Saturday Snippet: How our forefathers coped with everyday life”


  317. another ian says:

    “Geert Vanden Bossche and Robert Malone MD Discuss COVID-19, Scientific Investigation, the Viral Revolution and Political Media
    September 25, 2021 | Sundance | 51 Comments”


  318. jim2 says:

    Under the late Sen. John McCain, the Armed Services Committee engaged a former FBI official and his progressive-funded nonprofit to produce a report on the matter, according to court records obtained by Just the News.

    The Senate committee, now under Democrats’ control, successfully waged a secret federal court battle this summer to quash a subpoena that would have forced one of its staffers, Thomas Kirk McConnell, to turn over documents and testify about his dealings with former FBI analyst Dan Jones and his nonprofit, The Democracy Integrity Project, the records show.

    A spokesman for George Soros confirms the progressive megadonor was one of the financial backers of The Democracy Integrity Project. Tax records show the group raised more than $7 million in donations in 2017 and hired Fusion GPS — the same firm that produced the debunked Steele dossier for Hillary Clinton’s campaign — to pursue allegations of foreign interference in elections.

    The episode, recounted in hundreds of pages of federal and D.C. Superior court records, provides extraordinary insight into how current and former government officials in multiple branches of government were able to sustain a Russia collusion theory on artificial life support for years after the FBI first dispelled it.



  319. The True Nolan says:

    Former nurse testifies how bad PCR tests drove false COVID cases. Says that COVID patients received lower standard of care than normal pneumonia cases, leading to inflated COVID death statistics. Says “I am the man who euthanized people.”

  320. Ossqss says:

    So,,, was looking at Flu data. Quite interesting. How does the Flu pretty much disappear during a year? Testing, presumptive diagnosis in a Pandemic?

    Either way, it pretty much disappeared, and it don’t do that.

  321. Ossqss says:

    Sharing an Ad take. Watched a car commercial and they boasted of it being assembled in America. What exactly does that mean? Where did manufactured in America go?

    Think about it…

  322. cdquarles says:

    Mostly south, where they were not forced overseas by bad government policies; mostly taxes and regulations (redundant). Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, and Alabama make automobiles. Hyundai, Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Toyota, and Honda. Maybe VW these days, too. KY, I think, still makes Corvettes. That said, OH, MI don’t make them nearly as much any more. If CA still does, in a way, other than Tesla, I’d be surprised. USA mostly makes capital goods these days. Autos are among the few consumer hard goods still made here. You have to search for many these days.

  323. another ian says:

    “Neil Oliver: “The Strongest Smell of Fear is Coming From Government” – “It Smells Like Victory, Hold The Line”
    September 26, 2021 | Sundance | 55 Comments”


  324. another ian says:

    “If 2021 were 1941 . . .”

    “In this video, Carolla compares the current insanity over Covid and the Covid vaccines to the persecution of the French Resistance during WW2. This got me thinking, if 2021 were 1941, here’s how the following people who likely line up:”

    And Oz politicians get an early mention in that item


  325. H.R. says:

    @Ossqss – Assembled in America means that some of the parts are sourced from other countries.

    As the Japanese cars became popular – Toyota, Datsun, Honda – due to low price and good quality, a tariff was slapped on imports. I think it’s still in place for all imports, though the details have been rejiggered..

    Anyhow, no more than 10% (IIRC) of the car could be foreign made if the tariff was to be avoided. The Japanese makers set up assembly plants and their Japanese component suppliers sent over small teams and set up small satellite component manufacturing plants.

    So the Japanese parent company had complete control, raked in the bucks and avoided that tariffs. The other thing the Japanese avoided was the Automotive Unions.

    The NAFTA agreement was what got the components for Big 3 automakers globally sourced, yet the car was still, “Made in America”. Components would come in to Mexico or Canada from China. They’d get a dab of touch labor in Mexico or Canada, labeled ‘Hecho In Mexico’ or ‘Fabrique du Canada’, and then they were shipped into the U.S. under NAFTA rules and didn’t count as foreign-sourced.

    There’s a lot more to the story behind how America quit making things and all the work was off-shored. It is an ugly story.

  326. jim2 says:

    So after getting battered by lawfare, the right takes the hint and starts to use it too. But now, of course, it’s a bad thing.

    The Texas anti-abortion law that incentivizes ordinary people to file lawsuits against health care providers has human rights advocates and legal experts worried that the legal maneuver will spread to other states—and other social issues.

    So far, the citizen enforcement clause in the Texas law has fulfilled its intended purpose, dramatically curtailing the number of abortions performed in the state since it took effect Sept. 1.

    Abortion rights advocates worry that the legal gambit will quickly expand to other state anti-abortion bills, potentially denying abortions to tens of thousands of people.

    At least 14 other states could propose similar legislation, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a Washington, D.C.-based reproductive rights research and advocacy group: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Tennessee.


  327. jim2 says:

    Little was a victim of a ploy known as paper terrorism, a favorite tactic of an extremist group that is one of the fastest growing, according to government experts and watchdog organizations. Known as the Moorish sovereign citizen movement, and loosely based around a theory that Black people are foreign citizens bound only by arcane legal systems, it encourages followers to violate existent laws in the name of empowerment. Experts say it lures marginalized people to its ranks with the false promise that they are above the law.

    The man who entered her house, Hubert John of Los Angeles, was arrested June 17 and charged with criminal mischief, burglary, criminal trespass and making terroristic threats. Prosecutors in New Jersey are preparing to take the case before a grand jury, according to Katherine Carter, a spokeswoman for the Essex County Prosecutor’s Office. He was released on his own recognizance.

    But the strange letters declaring that Little’s home is not her own still come. They arrive on faux-consular letterhead using the name Lenapehoking of the Al Moroccan Empire at New Jersey State Republic. Lenapehoking was the land between New York City and Philadelphia that includes New Jersey and was home to the Indigenous Lenape tribe before it was colonized by European settlers. John and his group refer to themselves as Moors.


  328. E.M.Smith says:


    My favorite absurdity was pickup trucks. You had a special added tax on pickup trucks. HOWEVER, “Cab + Frame” was a utility frame, not a Pickup Truck. Any kind of specialty work body might be put on it. From Utility Body to Box Truck to Ambulance to RV… So of course what happened is that large fleets of “Utility Frame” were sent over along with huge stacks of truck beds and 4 to 6 big bolts….

    I’d often thought it might be fun to special order one of those Pickup Trucks but with the cab a different color than the bed “from the factory” ;-) Red / Green as a Christmas truck. Blue / Black as a Football Fan truck. Red / Yellow for an ambulance chaser. Green / Brown for camping. You get the idea ;-) (No reason they couldn’t do that. After all they have the two parts of different colors already and just need to bolt them up…)

    The other twist to this story is a Financial Manipulation Twist. In an attempt to make the “Car Companies” stock go up, the “Financial Manipulators” insisted that low value parts manufacture be spun out of the “car companies”. So Mopar would no longer be a division of Chrysler. Delco no longer a division of GM. Etc. Car companies obliged and spun off / sold to vulture capitalists the parts divisions.

    So you tell me: Who “made” my car if all the PARTS for it came from who knows whom wherever? Yes, the major Part Assemblies might all be bolted together in a barn with the FORD logo on it, but with the ability now to source parts from any part vendor, you get Chimera Cars with parts from many makers. Those parts makers now also get their sub-parts of assemblies from others in other countries. Is that Mopar Instrument Cluster with parts made in China really a Dodge Car Part? If I want a replacement alternator for my FORD, is it a FORD part, a GM / Delco part, or a Mopar part? Was the winding or rotor made in China or Detroit or Mexico or somewhere else entirely? What is the actual quality I’m getting?

    This started going silly in the ’90s to early ’00s. Chrysler was bolting Mercedes Diesels into some trucks while using Mitsubishi frames from their “GS” global frame. A FORD compact pickup might be a Mazda (I owned one, nice truck). Your Chevy Metro was really a Suzuki. Whole cars were being re-badged with engines, transmissions, even frames from who knows what maker. But “Made in the USA” ’cause the last bolt was turned here…


    The Compass and Patriot are both based on the DaimlerChrysler/Mitsubishi GS platform. These vehicles are differentiated by their styling and marketing: The Patriot is a traditionally styled 4-door Jeep wagon, while the Compass has a softer hatchback look, similar to the Dodge Caliber.

    Yes, some of that started earlier. In the ’80s I had an International Harvester Scout with a Nissan Turbo Diesel engine in it. But the Scout was always made from “other people’s parts” as International had only a very small assembly plant. (The body furniture – knobs and such – I think were GM from the look of them. Then the 4 WD axels and such of course came from the major axle makers – something Jeep guys have done almost forever..) What changed was taking it from boutique shops and going mainstream majors and global.

    Welcome to globalism…


    See also: Jeep Cherokee (KL)

    Jeep Cherokee Limited Multijet (United Kingdom)
    For the fifth generation, the Cherokee nameplate returned to North America as the vehicle was converted to a crossover and grew to midsize in order to make room for the Jeep Renegade below the Cherokee and Compass. It was introduced for the 2014 model year at the 2013 New York International Auto Show and the sales started in November 2013. The Cherokee is the first Jeep vehicle to be built on the Fiat Compact/Compact U.S. Wide platform, co-developed by Chrysler and Fiat. The Jeep Cherokee is built at Belvidere Assembly Plant in Belvidere, Illinois.


    Like previous generations, the WK2 Grand Cherokee chassis is a steel unibody. Unlike previous generations, it features four-wheel independent suspension for better on-road handling. The WK2 and 2011 Durango use a Chrysler designed and engineered platform/chassis that Mercedes-Benz later used for the Mercedes-Benz W166 series. The Chrysler designed platform was part of the DaimlerChrysler engineering projects that were to launch the WK2 Grand Cherokee with the Mercedes-Benz ML to follow.

    So is your Mercedes ML a Mercedes or a Chrysler? Or a Jeep? Just wondering…

    Folks in Europe might get a Fiat Diesel:

    A 3.0 L turbocharged diesel V6 developed and built by Fiat Powertrain Technologies and VM Motori (with Multijet II injection[23]) rated at 177 kW (241 PS; 237 hp) and 550 N⋅m (406 lbf⋅ft) of torque offered in export markets from mid-2011.[24] The new 3.0 L CRD turbodiesel engine is available in European markets as 140 kW (190 PS; 188 hp) low-power version.

    The new Grand Cherokee SRT8, which started production on July 16, 2011, is equipped with a 470 hp (350 kW; 477 PS) 6.4 L Hemi V8 engine.

    Then there’s this:


    Mitsubishi Jeep

    The production of jeeps by Mitsubishi motors of Japan started with producing jeeps under licence from Willys corporation USA. Over 30 different Jeep models were produced based on the CJ-3B body style, and built in Japan under licence from Willys from 1953 through 1998.

    Mitsubishi Motors announced on 4 June 1998 that it would stop production of Jeep models, 45 years after their commercial debut in Japan. The Tokyo-based automaker produced its last Jeep in August. The decision was made because the vehicles don’t meet new environmental and safety standards.

    The Jeeps were been built with short(J3, J4, J44, J50), medium(J20) and long(J40) wheelbases as well as J30(wagon type) and J20H hard top models, with various gasoline and diesel 4-cylinder engines. The engines that were mainly used include Mitsubishi diesel 4DR5 (Normally aspirated) and 4DR6(turbocharged) engines.

    Theses jeeps are known for their sturdy built and for their simple architecture letting owners swap engines easily. Many of these are popular in South east asian countries. Many jeepneys in Phlipines have been modified from theses Mitsubishi Jeeps For a lack of common name theses are called “4DR5 jeeps” as many of theses came with or retro fitted with Mitsubishi 4DR engines.
    The gasoline version of these vehicles came factory fitted with Mitsubishi Hurricane engine.


    Jeeps have been built under licence by various manufacturers around the world, including Mahindra in India, EBRO in Spain, and several in South America. Mitsubishi built more than 30 models in Japan between 1953 and 1998; Most were based on the CJ-3B model of the original Willys-Kaiser design.

    While Jeeps are an extreme case of this, it is where most car makers hare headed. Is my Jeep a Mitsubishi? A Fiat? American? German? Who knows…

  329. another ian says:

    “Dear Idiot: I Will Laugh”

    “Well here’s a bit of science for you, *******: The jabs don’t work.

    In fact you admit they don’t work. If you believed they did work you wouldn’t care about us. You might call us stupid, but that’s the end of it right? You’re safe, we’re not. So what? You live your life and if we kill ourselves, so be it. You don’t ban beer because I can drink myself to death, right?”

    More at


    And some links via SDA

    “Non-Responders – Is the word, or phrase of the day (help me grammar nazis) after going through some research papers this afternoon.

    Primary vaccine failure to routine vaccines: Why and what to do?

    A paper relevant to the one above focusing on cancer patients and covid vaccines.

    And to round things out a paper on how they can determine causality from VAERS reports. ”


  330. The True Nolan says:

    Not sure whether this is correct, but it is nice to see someone thinking of alternative reasons for the COVID scenario. Killing off the Chinese boomers?

    @another ian: Well written post on market-ticker.org. Brutal, and sad too. I try NOT to surrender to such an outlook against those screaming against anyone choosing to not get jabbed, but I certainly understand the mindset.

  331. another ian says:


    Military flight crews


  332. beththeserf says:

    Great links another ian.

  333. another ian says:

    Self explanatory

  334. another ian says:


  335. jim2 says:

    A planned new generation of mini nuclear reactors could protect Britain from future energy crises.

    Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng is poised to approve funding for British engineering giant Rolls-Royce to create a fleet of mini-reactors.

    Ministers are understood to have adopted a ‘change of focus’ towards nuclear power amid the current crisis caused by rocketing global wholesale gas prices.


  336. rhoda klapp says:

    There’s an idea that small modular reactors will be spread around as single units. With the associated permitting and security problems. The correct way to use them is in multiples on the sites of obsolete nuclear or coal stations where the electric lines already go. License one design and then the next SMR is a drop-in. The site already has a cleanup problem before it can be used for anything else and the zoning problem is reduced because of prior use.

  337. jim2 says:

    RK – yes, that is a sensible approach. An anathema to government all over the world.

  338. cdquarles says:

    Here is the lengthy article itself: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221475002100161X, mentioned in that Townhall piece.

  339. cdquarles says:

    A comment on original antigenic sin, which is my opinion only, is that this effect is going to be greater for the generations following the boomers than it may be or has been seen in the generations preceding and up to the boomers. Why? Mass inoculation campaigns started with the boomers; but many of us (boomers) didn’t get the multiple inoculations that subsequent generations got. Boomers got a mix of natural infections and vaccination campaigns. Flip side of that? Boomers may see the worst of both worlds, too, via other auto-immune effects. I am coming to the conclusion that inoculations should be limited to MMR, DPT and polio for the general population. Others should be targeted to high risk subgroups.

  340. cdquarles says:

    Crikes, forgot small pox and might include chicken pox to the three mentioned.

  341. p.g.sharrow says:

    another ian says:
    27 September 2021 at 6:00 am

    OMG !!
    This is a big deal, Much worse then I imagined.

  342. Simon Derricutt says:

    CDQ – I think your logic there is spot-on. For the other diseases, only vaccinate those at high risk.

    However, there could be an alternate option. The idea of the adjuvants is to goose the immune system to take notice that this infection is important, and thus to produce a large titre of antibodies and to store the memory of what the stuff looks like for next time. Possibly it’s only really necessary that the body remembers how to produce the antibodies, rather than actually produce a load of them that don’t really have a real target right now. Might take a bit longer to produce those antibodies when needed, so people would realise they are ill before they get better, but might reduce the danger of OAS and ADE as well as the autoimmune diseases.

    Thus rather than use the high-power adjuvants, maybe they should be using ones that are far milder and nudge the immune system rather than hold a knife at its neck.

    Do you think that might work that way? I’m just looking as an engineer, and don’t have enough knowledge of the interactions.

  343. David A says:

    Simon, well over 90 percent of people produce memory T cell response to Covid now.
    So far,AFAIK, there is zero evidence the vaccines give long term immunity and considerable evidence they do not.

  344. cdquarles says:

    One of the things that I think should be looked into, is that TB vaccination never happened in the USA, if I am remembering correctly. Where that did happen in the rest of the world, also if I am remembering correctly, adjuvants were used, variably.

    Yes, the kinds and amounts of adjuvants may be more important than the antigens, in an of themselves.

  345. another ian says:

    “Joe has no idea what’s coming.

    I do.

    He thinks the roughly 25% of Americans who “can” get a jab but refuse for Covid-19 will be “swayed” by his order.

    He’s wrong; he might get a couple of percent of the 25%, but that’s it.


    Because playing Hitler, which is exactly what he’s done (and now Kamala has done it too) not only doesn’t work it pisses people off.”

    More at


  346. Paul, Somerset says:

    @ cdq:
    Thanks for posting the link to that lengthy paper. Down in Appendix C is a reference to a variant of the Original Antigenic Sin hypothesis which I’ve always known as the Hoskins Effect, where repeated vaccinations against similar strains of a flu virus leave your body unable to manufacture the correct antibodies should it encounter a version of the virus which has drifted too far from the original. In Appendix C the effect is described thus:

    ” Antigenic Distance Hypothesis (negative interference from prior season’s influenza vaccine (v1) on the current season’s vaccine (v2) protection may occur when the antigenic distance is small between v1 and v2 (v1 ≈ v2) but large between v1 and the current epidemic (e) strain (v1 ≠ e).)

    I posted here months ago an idea I had that repeated vaccinations against the current coronavirus might leave you vulnerable to a future coronavirus strain. I’m concerned here not so much with mutations of the current SARS-2 virus, but with one of the dozens (or maybe hundreds) of other similarly engineered coronaviruses lurking in labs in China and elsewhere.

    In that scenario a really malign actor could already have the precise coronavirus ready to release or leak to be the epidemic (e) strain with just the right degree of lethal antigenic drift from the vaccines (v1, and the booster v2) currently being injected.

    In fact, you wouldn’t necessarily even need a malign actor for this to happen. Just sloppy lab safety could do the trick.

    Complete speculation on my part, i admit. But that’s what happens when the world around me has turned so bizarre.

  347. another ian says:

    “It Was A Con – White House Has No Idea When, or Even If, OSHA Will Ever Provide Rules to Support Legally Enforceable Worker Vaccine Mandate
    September 27, 2021 | Sundance | 294 Comments”


  348. Ossqss says:

    @AI, the mandate thing eludes me. I can’t find any other vaccine mandate that was imposed by OSHA…

    No doubt it was a tactical faux maneuver to enhance capitulation, and it certainly worked on many.

  349. another ian says:

    “About the Maricopa County election audit in Arizona…”

    “I have no problem with the audit’s findings that its final vote totals closely matched those reported immediately after the election. However, that’s not the point. All the mainstream media and progressive-left pontificating about how this “proves” that the election results were valid is so much hooey.”

    More there


    “EDITED TO ADD: Larry Correia, who’s a forensic auditor himself and had so much to say about electoral fraud immediately after the November 2020 elections, takes a look at the Maricopa County audit. Bold, underlined text is my emphasis.”

  350. David A says:

    https://newstarget.com/2021-09-27-moderna-ceo-booster-shots-need-taken-forever.html That or die is the threat.

    Curious what Biden and now Fauci mean by the coming “Dark Winter”

  351. David A says:

    The did 10 autopsies in Germany.
    Certainly explains why we don’t do them here.

  352. AC Osborn says:

    David A says: 28 September 2021 at 4:02 am
    Shocking, but not unexpected, as some of the doctors predicted this kind of effect.

  353. AC Osborn says:

    This link posted on the Treehouse is a great summing up of where the world is heading. A politician that speaks truth and warns everybody.

  354. H.R. says:

    @David A re taking Moderna booster shots forever or die:

    Moderna is the one backed by the Gates Foundation. FauXi has a stake in that one, too.

    Things that make you go Hmmmmm….

    Why sell crack when you have a product that people must take repeatedly and forever and costs a bundle?

    Oh, and if the ‘customer’ becomes problematic or a political threat or is deemed ‘surplus’, all you need to do is withhold the booster shots. Problem solved.

    Some people would call that a conspiracy theory. Or maybe it’s actually just a spoiler alert.

  355. David A says:


    HR, there are indications that each boost increases the negatives and decreases natural immunity. An astounding insane proposition for an experimental jab with proven very very large harms, to expand its use with ZERO studies. So I think some may be true eugenics supporters, and multiple shots the means. In researching Gates, he is likely Soros only far far wealthier. The results of his work do not support the pro ported goals. Fauci may be insane. His bizarre love letters to Hillary Clinton, in a business setting, are very sketchy.

    Relationship of flu vaccines to Covid survival appears to be strongly negative correlation with several pathologies possible to get there. https://principia-scientific.com/flu-vaccination-linked-to-higher-covid-death-rates/

  356. David A says:

    AC, what a fantastic speech, very rapidly accurate and articulate presentation of the OWG plan. Heading to conservative treehouse for more information on this man. I feel less unrepresented in this world now. Bravo to this brave truth-teller.
    The world desperately needs more like him.

  357. David A says:

    Less unrepresented
    Auto incorrect is a beast.

    [Reply: But Manual Correct can recorrect the incorrect autocorrect! ;-) -E.M.S.]

  358. jim2 says:

    Main Outcomes and Measures Incidence of serious outcomes, including acute myocardial infarction, Bell palsy, cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, Guillain-Barré syndrome, myocarditis/pericarditis, pulmonary embolism, stroke, and thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome. Incidence of events that occurred among vaccine recipients 1 to 21 days after either dose 1 or 2 of a messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine was compared with that of vaccinated concurrent comparators who, on the same calendar day, had received their most recent dose 22 to 42 days earlier. Rate ratios (RRs) were estimated by Poisson regression, adjusted for age, sex, race and ethnicity, health plan, and calendar day. For a signal, a 1-sided P < .0048 was required to keep type I error below .05 during 2 years of weekly analyses. For 4 additional outcomes, including anaphylaxis, only descriptive analyses were conducted.


  359. jim2 says:

    Autopsy: Drene Keyes death direct result Covid-19 Pfizer Vaccine, Officials Deny, Engage in Cover Up


  360. David A says:

    “ Reply: But Manual Correct can recorrect the incorrect autocorrect! ;-) -E.M.S.]

    True!! Would require me to take the common curtesy to proof appropriately.

    [Reply: I was actually thinking of me doing the “fix up”… -E.M.S. ]

  361. David A says:

    Here is an extensive interesting unsigned summary of Covid, the vaccines , and political evil.
    Very extensive, covers much of what we have uncovered here, with some provocative scientific assertions of gray areas discussed.

    I really hope the more educated readers here at EMs site, ( most all of you relative to myself) will take a look and offer some critical analysis.


  362. cdquarles says:

    Hmm, I think I’ve commented on this one, though maybe at WM Briggs’ site. It is mostly correct.

  363. The True Nolan says:

    Short clip of testimony to the FDA. “Two killed for each one saved.”

    Nice study re dangers of vaxxing:
    “The COVID-19 reported deaths are people who died with COVID-19, not necessarily from COVID-19. Likewise, the VAERS deaths are people who have died following inoculation, not necessarily from inoculation. As stated before, CDC showed that 94 % of the reported deaths had multiple comorbidities, thereby reducing the CDC’s numbers attributed strictly to COVID-19 to about 35,000 for all age groups. Given the number of high false positives from the high amplification cycle PCR tests, and the willingness of healthcare professionals to attribute death to COVID-19 in the absence of tests or sometimes even with negative PCR tests, this 35,000 number is probably highly inflated as well. On the latter issue, both Virginia Stoner [85] and Jessica Rose [86] have shown independently that the deaths following inoculation are not coincidental and are strongly related to inoculation through strong clustering around the time of injection. Our independent analyses of the VAERS database reported in Appendix 1 confirmed these clustering findings. Additionally, VAERS historically has under-reported adverse events by about two orders-of-magnitude, so COVID-19 inoculation deaths in the short-term could be in the hundreds of thousands for the USA for the period mid-December 2020 to the end of May 2021, potentially swamping the real COVID-19 deaths. Finally, the VAERS deaths reported so far are for the very short term. We have no idea what the death numbers will be in the intermediate and long-term; the clinical trials did not test for those. The clinical trials used a non-representative younger and healthier sample to get EUA for the injection. Following EUA, the mass inoculations were administered to the very sick (and first responders) initially, and many died quite rapidly. However, because the elderly who died following COVID-19 inoculation were very frail with multiple comorbidities, their deaths could easily be attributed to causes other than the injection (as should have been the case for COVID-19 deaths as well). Now the objective is the inoculation of the total USA population. Since many of these potential serious adverse effects have built-in lag times of at least six months or more, we won’t know what they are until most of the population has been inoculated, and corrective action may be too late.”

    And lastly, a disconcerting announcement from Canada. If you are sick at home but not tested, you are part of the outbreak.

  364. E.M.Smith says:

    @David A:

    The link in the Sparticus article to the “original PDF” now gives a 404 missing… someone didn’t like it being up.

    I did a print to PDF from that article, but each page gets an “Accept Cookies” Nag (and the actual page doesn’t give a way to accept cookies… odd.).

    So I’ve got to do a lot of “Cut Paste” to try to preserve that page (and maybe the PDF is on the Wayback Machine…)

    At any rate, I’m going to focus on preservation before I can do critique.

  365. David A says:

    Thanks Jim and EM.
    Looking forward to any of your feedback E.M. There was some new to me in there.

  366. another ian says:

    “House Democrats Quietly Insert a Ten-Fold Increase in OSHA Violations into 3.5 Trillion Human Infrastructure Reconciliation Bill
    September 29, 2021 | Sundance | 31 Comments”


  367. another ian says:

    “”Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”


  368. another ian says:

    “CDC Beclowns All Mandates”


    For those of boundless faith

  369. jim2 says:

    Biden now has a lower approval rating than Trump at this time in Trump’s Presidency.


  370. H.R. says:

    @jim2 re approval ratings:

    What’s remarkable about that is that President Trump had 97% negative media coverage (anything and everything was Orange Man Bad and stupid) and there was Russia, Russia, Russia.”

    Biden has no negative press. He’s either a caring, brilliant statesman, nothing is printed or shown about his screwups, and if something negative is presented it was all Trump’s fault.

  371. another ian says:

    September 29, 2021 at 11:49 pm · Reply
    Feel free to join me.. $7 buys a floro yellow safety vest, $4.40 buys an aerosol of matt black paint. Put the Star of David on the back of the vest in masking tape & a stencil crossing out the word “juden” and saying “Un-vaxd”.

    Spray gently with black paint to get a yellow star with yellow writing, which is what the Nazis had the Jews wear. I can toss the vest over whatever I’m wearing to display exactly where I think their treatment of the un-vaxd comes from.

    The picture of the Nazis demanding papers from the Warsaw Jews that is taped to the back of my driving licence amused then disturbed the only cop I’ve ever had to show it to.”


    “Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Drops Truth Bomb On Australian Response To COVID, Questions if Diplomatic Relations Should Be Reviewed
    September 29, 2021 | Sundance | 223 Comments”


    As I’ve mentioned before I reckon that, when this Peking Pox thing is settled, there will be a large gold mine in being positioned as a promoter of international tourism.

    The view given to the outside world will require big buckets of government money to try and get back all those tourists that are going to fund those new green jobs in tourism (/s in case)

  372. E.M.Smith says:

    Anyone promoting “green” jobs in tourism will need to confront the fuel burn of Jet Airplanes…

    The only “green” vacation is the “stay-cation” in your backyard (no BBQ though…)

  373. philjourdan says:

    DAMN! My wife just figured out we are starting to experience shortages again! I am still drawing down on her last hoarding binge!

  374. E.M.Smith says:


    Tell her about the shortage of tires, new cars, RVs, and Scotch (or Rum or…) and how you need to stock up quick! Oh, and Bass Boats, don’t forget the Bass Boats… ;-)

  375. The True Nolan says:

    Here is a good example of why NOT to get excited by every anti-vaxx bit of news:
    “Whistle blower says 50,000 Medicare patients dead within 14 days of receiving vaxx.”
    VERY rough estimates follow:
    330 million people X 1 death/82 people years = 4025000 deaths/year (most of them old folks on Medicare, but lets round down to a conservative 3 million Medicare deaths per year. Assume somewhere around 80% vaxx rate for elders.)
    3000000 deaths/year X 8 vaxxed/10 = 2400000 vaxxed Medicare deaths/year
    (Vaxxes have been available roughly 9 months)
    2400000 vaxxed deaths/year X 9/12 year = 1800000 vaxxed deaths since vaxxes began
    (In 9 months there are about 18 periods of 14 days, but since a person cannot be counted as a vaxx death unless vaxxed BEFORE death, the average number of 14 day periods would have to be half that, or 9 periods)
    1800000 deaths/ 9 periods = 200,000 Medicare deaths over the last nine months occurring within 14 days of having received the vaxx. And that 200,000 deaths is if there is NO correlation between the vaxx and the death. Whistle blower says 50,000 deaths? Sounds bad at first — but is it?

  376. H.R. says:

    @TTN – Eggs-zactly! The highest number of deaths per year is always going to be in the Medicare cohort.

    They’re OLD, fer cryin’ out loud! The merry-go-round of life stops and it’s time to get off.

  377. E.M.Smith says:


    Same math problem, from the other side, with Therapeutics & Vexxines. Since 99.xx% of almost everyone, but the very old and ready to die, recover anyway: how do you prove that the 99 out of 100 people you gave ivermectin OR the “vaccine” to, who did just fine and recovered nicely from a mild case, had anything happen at all?

    Only thing I can see as “proof” is a fuzzy “severity” subjective rating, and objective “days to recover” or “percent to ICU”; and then “cases” in a given geographic domain over time on onset of a treatment method. (In that case vaccine is horridly failed, see Israel, and Ivermectin is a champ, see India).

    But really, for the majority of all folks, it’s a “flu like disease” and done and can range from nothing to 1957 flu pandemic severity. No really good handle on showing what works vs doesn’t.

    FWIW, for me, I’m now happy to say ivermectin certainly works as a preventative. I’m pushing the 2 year mark in TWO hotspots along with road travel between them (about 7500 total miles) almost all of it without mask or much of anything “protective” and with contact with 10s of thousands to a hundred thousand+ group. In all of that, I’ve undoubtedly had several exposures. Not so much as a head cold… Others in the family using it have been similarly exempt…

    But the math to prove that? Sample size of 2 or 3 if you count friends? When some folks already have natural immunity?

  378. David A says:

    TTN, I had the same thoughts reading that article. Give the dang demographics and normal fatalities within that group. At one point I thought they were talking within 3 days of the vaccines. At any rate it is worthless without much better understanding of what the numbers mean.

    This was great ADDITIONAL information on the success of Ivermectin in India
    “ The WHO noted, “Government teams are moving across 97,941 villages in 75 districts over five days in this activity which began May 5 in India’s most populous state with a population of 230 million.”

    The activity involved an aggressive house-to-house test and treat program with medicine kits.

    The WHO explained, “Each monitoring team has two members who visit homes in villages and remote hamlets to test everyone with symptoms of COVID-19 using Rapid Antigen Test kits. Those who test positive are quickly isolated and given a medicine kit with advice on disease management.”

    Wow, first off the WHO knew all about the India experiment, which was a direct contradiction of the globalist ZERO treatment go home and come back when breathing is difficult” policy. How involved WHO was I do not know, but they were involved…

    “The Rapid Response Teams derive support from the United States CDC under the umbrella of the WHO. This fact further validates the Uttar Pradesh test and treat program and solidifies this as a joint effort by the WHO and CDC.”

    However WHO did NOT say what was in the medical kits. Well, here it is…
    Each home kit contained the following: Paracetamol tablets [tylenol], Vitamin C, Multivitamin, Zinc, Vitamin D3, Ivermectin 12 mg [quantity #10 tablets], Doxycycline 100 mg [quantity #10 tablets]. Other non-medication components included face masks, sanitizer, gloves and alcohol wipes, a digital thermometer, and a pulse oximeter. See mark 2:33.

    Wow, ok, somehow the Indian government of Uttar Pradesh got the three most essential preventives and early treatment items ( Ivermectin Zinc, Vitamin D) which they have repressed internationally.

    The post further details the incredible success of the program, only missing what I read from other sources, they gave the medical kits to the Covid positive AND family’s and close contacts.

    This information, IMV, sets up WHO and the CDC as even more vulnerable to convictions warranting prison or death. They KNOW that early treatment works and the vaccines are almost useless, even before considering the KNOWN vaccine harms and potential harms. Yet they knowingly press ever forward on vaccines for all, and boosters forever, while repressing KNOW VERY EFFECTIVE treatments that shatter the RO and eliminate the disease. ( That must be prosecuted)

    Oh, the link…

  379. another ian says:

    “General Mark Milley’s Sketchy October 2020 Intelligence on China Fears Likely Came From Twitter and New York Times, Congressman Mike Turner Will Confirm
    September 30, 2021 | Sundance | 113 Comments”


  380. another ian says:

    On reflection we might have been in better hands when CDC was primarily a company that made big computers

  381. jim2 says:

    Mark Milley need to be convicted of treason and shot.

  382. another ian says:

    “Vaccine Consent Checklist from Britain’s National Health Service”


  383. another ian says:




    A couple I checked give the contents as the IVM content made up to 100% with NON-TOXIC SUBSTANCES!

  384. jim2 says:

    Safety controversy

    In April 2020, a whistleblower complaint by former Head of US Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) Rick Bright revealed concerns over providing funding for the further development of molnupiravir due to similar drugs having mutagenic (DNA damaging) properties.[4] A previous company, Pharmasset, that had investigated the drug’s active ingredient had abandoned it. These claims were denied by George Painter, CEO of DRIVE, noting that toxicity studies on molnupiravir had been carried out and data provided to regulators in the US and UK, who permitted safety studies in humans to move forward in the spring of 2020. Also at this time, DRIVE and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics stated they planned future safety studies in animals.[5]


  385. The True Nolan says:

    A good article by William Briggs on how the CDC lies with statistics about school room mask mandates:

    Oh, and here is a second article by Briggs — although this is more polemics and not numbers.
    Seems that Biden’s booster shot was on a looks-like-the-White-House set, not in the real place. Someone leaked a picture of the set. I watched the video of the shot and wondered why the windows looked fake. Turns out they are fake.

  386. David A says:

    Perhaps the show was as well, saline only. I would not be surprised.

    I know my post above was a bit long, yet it is fascinating that both the CDC and WHO were involved in distribution of Ivermectin, vitamin D and Zinc in Uttar Pradesh India.

  387. Ossqss says:

    I had a discussion with someone in the medical field on getting a Vaxx.

    I asked, is a vaccine supposed to neutralize a virus and stop it from being transmissible?

    Answer, Yes.

    My next question was, this Vaxx doesn’t, so is it an Inoculation instead?

    By definition, it is.

    Short term at that.

    Boost this>:-)

  388. another ian says:

    Maybe time to remind people that Tom Lehrer pointed out in the 1960’s that

    “The US military is the first organisation ever to abolish discrimination on the base of sex, colour, creed, race or ability”

  389. jim2 says:

    FEMA is blaming this rate increase on “climate change.” But the rate increase is due to FEMA. I’m wondering if the eco-loons in the government just want to drive people away from the coast.

    “Only those who faced the menace of the encircling and engulfing tide realize the fear that gripped the hearts of every person in the path of the seething wall of water, the most destructive force at the command of the elements.”

    That’s the Irontown Register in Ohio reporting on a massive and destructive flood in January 1937. For 11 days the waters of the Ohio River terrorized area residents with ferocious flood waters due to 12 inches of rain combined with snow melt.

    “Residents of the higher ground, never before touched by the massive floods in the Ohio Valley in 1884 and 1913, saw the encroaching fingers of the deluge grasp them and damage and destroy their properties,” reported the Irontown Register.

    Now, residents just east of Irontown in Lawrence Country, Ohio, face another threat: They will experience the largest flood insurance rate increases in the country when FEMA updates its rates starting Oct. 1, 2021.


  390. jim2 says:

    This a about the drug that may damage DNA @ https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/09/03/w-o-o-d-3-september-2021/#comment-151290

    Pharmaceutical giant Merck and its partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics announced Friday that it plans to apply for emergency approval of its oral antiviral treatment for COVID-19 after the experimental drug showed “compelling results” in clinical trials.

    The pill, called molnupiravir, cut the risk of hospitalization or death in patients with mild to moderate COVID-19 by about 50 percent in a late-stage trial, the companies said.


  391. jim2 says:

    In Vitro study showing that NHC (initial metabolite of molnupiravir) has high antiviral activity against SARS-CoV-2, but also shows host mutational activity in an animal cell culture assay. Authors note the concern that mutations in host DNA could contribute to the development of cancer, or cause birth defects either in a developing fetus or through incorporation into sperm precursor cells.


  392. jim2 says:

    Molnupiravir is being touted by those with a vested interest as an oral drug that could treat COVID-19.

    It earlier name was EIDD-2801 and the history of its development and those involved directly or indirectly are simply shocking and interesting as many names involved with the coronavirus research and gain of function studies were also involved!

    The drug is being claimed to be able to work by interfering with the virus’s ability to replicate in human cells. In the case of molnupiravir, the enzyme that copies the viral genetic material is forced to make so many mistakes that the virus can’t reproduce.

    That, in turn, reduces the patient’s viral load, shortening infection time and preventing the kind of dangerous immune response that can cause serious illness or death.

    However concerns are being raised as to whether molnupiravir could be metabolized into a precursor of DNA and as to whether it could enter the host cell nucleus, leading to oncogenesis and also induce mitochondrial toxicity.

    In April 2020, a whistleblower complaint by former Head of US Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) Rick Bright revealed concerns over providing funding for the further development of molnupiravir due to similar drugs having mutagenic (DNA damaging) properties.


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  394. The True Nolan says:

    @jim2: From your last link “In June 2021, the Biden administration announced it had agreed to obtain about 1.7 million treatment courses of Merck’s molnupiravir, at a cost of $1.2 billion, if the product receives emergency authorization or full approval.”

    $700 per treatment up front, plus all the profit from a round of chemo treatments a few years later.
    (Good catch on the link, jim2. I am in awe of your google-fu!)

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