Well, I’ll not be doing the RV Coast To Coast thing after all. Spouse gets a headache or a bit dizzy in some vehicles ( I can feel it too) due to low frequency resonances. Infra-sound sort of stuff.
We first noticed this in a Ford Van about 30 years ago, so didn’t buy it either. In an extended test drive of a nice new Newmar, I could feel it and she reacted to it. So a no-go on that plan. ( I may try an old Blue Bird “someday” to see if it is just a size thing or if it is a maker / model thing, but not in time to move…)
So she’s going to fly out, and I’m going to drive a car load of stuff. Then either movers move the house full or I get a big truck and DIY. TBD at this point. (Likely movers I think…)
BUT, along the way, saw several ads for Diesel Trucks and Buses that said something like “Can’t use this anymore due to new Smog Law”. WT? In California, old Diesels have typically been exempt from any smog laws. Only after 2007 was there anything applied to Diesels.
Well, I decided to find out just what was what. Don’t live in California so don’t care? It applies to people VISITING California in an RV too…
New Laws in California Could Be Trouble for Diesel RV Owners
by Cary Hillside on March 29, 2021
Having enacted many laws and regulations over the years to curb the emission of greenhouse gases (GHGs), California has long been known as one of the most active states in the fight against climate change. Whether these regulations are good, bad, or in-between, consumers’ perspectives are often significantly influenced by the type of vehicle they drive. Some diesel RV owners may be bristling right now at a new proposed law that could spell big trouble for them.
Climate Change, huh? Do they know that Diesels get much better MPG so emit far less CO2 / ton-mile? Do they know that “smog controls” for most vehicles cause them to consume MORE fuel and emit MORE CO2? Broken logic runs deep in these folks.
An embedded tweet says:
Last month, @CAgovernor directed @AirResources to develop regs to achieve 100% #EV car sales in CA by 2035, transition to #ZEV short-haul trucks by 2035 & ZEV heavy-duty vehicles by 2045. This will protect the air we breathe. #CleanAirDayCA #airpollution #emissions
So Zero Emmissions heavy-duty trucks… boy is that going to drive prices of everything shipped through the roof. Nothing but EV cars to be sold starting in 14 years.
But what does this have to do with old trucks?
By 2035, California hopes to move to 100 percent zero-emission vehicles and phase out remaining diesel vehicles by 2045. Along with the California General Assembly, CARB has aggressively targeted diesel-powered vehicles, given that they produce more GHG than gasoline-powered ones.
Definitely short on the “understanding physics” department. Diesel Powered trucks make more gasses because of their SIZE not their type of engine. For a given SIZE the gasoline powered trucks make more exhaust gasses.
But they are correct that an 18 wheeler makes more exhaust gas than a Toyota Prius…
A recently approved law should be of specific interest to diesel RV owners. Senate Bill 210 directs CARB to develop a “Heavy-Duty Vehicle Maintenance and Inspection Program” applicable to all vehicles greater than 14,000 pounds operating in California.
In short, these vehicles will have to follow California’s emissions standards and hold an annual certificate from CARB validating their vehicle meets these standards. This regulation will apply no matter where the vehicle was registered, according to Camper Report.
Senate Bill 210 directs CARB to establish this program starting with a pilot, followed by a full inspection program. The inspection program will be coordinated with the California Department of Motor Vehicles and include procedures for both visual and functional inspections and necessary emissions testing. Those who do not comply would be assessed fees, and penalties CARB establishes.
This proposal is one of many CARB measures intended to curb diesel emissions from trucks, both operating in-state and out-of-state. But it also has implications for diesel RV motorhomes owners residing in California, along with owners traveling to and from the Golden State.
It very well could reduce emissions significantly. But it could also have adverse business impacts on the transportation and tourism industries.
“Could” have adverse impacts? Could. Ya think? How about flat out killing off a chunk of visitors in the most expensive and biggest RVs around? Folks who drop money like crazy. Movie Stars who live in coaches “on set” fairly often and the movies they make going elsewhere?
Were I running a trucking company, I’d just charge a huge fee for anything going to California and arrange a “trailer swap” location on the Nevada or Arizona border. Things will take longer to move, and there will be an added charge for the truck change and two drivers coordinating and the land for the swap spot, but hey…
Were I an ocean shipper I’d just land cargo in Mexico, Oregon, Washington, or Canada and skip the whole California thing.
California’s Governor Gavin Newsom approved this bill in September 2019. And while the long on-ramp for implementation of the law (coupled with the pandemic) may have muted public reaction, industry and environmental groups have, and continue to, weigh-in.
However, other industry groups within the transportation and agriculture industries, including the California Farm Bureau Federation, California Cattlemen’s Association, and Western States Trucking Association, oppose the law, as per CDLLife.
Senate Bill 210 could put a damper on what has been a historic period of RV sales. The RV Industry Association has also taken note of the bill. It plans to work with CARB to ensure that the development and implementation of Senate Bill 210 do not unduly burden diesel motorhome owners in or visiting California.
As of now, the certificate requirement is not yet in effect but is expected to be effective sometime in 2023. So if you own a diesel-fueled motorhome and were planning on one of California’s many RV parks, you may want to do so soon.
The Stupid, it burns… But at least in late 2022 there will be a lot of cheap Diesels to buy and drive out of California…
But at least now I know why folks are saying they are selling their old trucks and buses due to the new smog requirements. Dump the old Diesel, buy a replacement Gasoline bus, burn more fuel and make more CO2. Way to go, Gov.
This Forbes article about increased regulations on NEW trucks quotes a “spokesperson” who says it “only” will increase costs by 6%. Sure…
The omnibus regulations apply to California-certified vehicles sold starting in 2024 and will increase the cost of a truck by less than 6%, according to a spokesperson.
Figure closer to 10-12% when it is in place and operating. So hitting new trucks one way, old ones another way. And then they wonder why there is a Trucker Shortage…
Manufacturers of heavy-duty trucks have several engineering options to comply with the new rules, according to CARB. Strategies include better engine calibration, improvements to selective catalytic reduction (SCR) systems, and new fuel-saving technologies like cylinder deactivation that also enable much lower NOx emissions.
When fully implemented in 2026
So 4+ years until that one is fully cramping truckers.
California Mandate: We’re Coming For Your Diesel Truck
by Thom Taylor on June 29, 2020
In a landmark decision that will reverberate for years, California announced it will require manufacturers to start selling zero-emission vehicles by 2024. The mandate applies to medium-duty and heavy trucks. The goal is to have a minimum of 300,000 zero-emission trucks traversing the state by 2035. By 2045, all medium and heavy-duty trucks will be ZEVs. In other words, California is coming for your diesel truck.
Another mandate will follow from the California Air Resources Board requiring large fleet owners to purchase a certain amount of ZEV trucks. Heavy-duty diesel trucks are the number one source of smog-forming nitrogen oxide pollution in the state. The goal is naturally to reduce climate-warming emissions to improve public health. It is also seen as a way to increase the health of low-income residents living in fairly close proximity to freeways.
Yeah, because buying electricity from out of State is so much more efficient at reducing emission IN California… But at least we know Tesla will have a mandated market for his e-Truck regardless of cost or efficiency…
Note that California imports a load of electrons from the Palo Verde nuclear plant in Arizona and via the Pacific DC Intertie from Washington State.
Oh, and I wonder what happens to shipping / trucking when we have a rolling blackout hit the Truck Charging stations?