Friends Of Australia Friday 22 April 2022

It’s once again an Australia Time Friday! It’s FRIDAY!!!!

The Tucker

Life is getting back to normal a little bit. I now have a kitchen in this unit, if small, and found a decent source of Australian Lamb at Publix. (The local Walmart did have lamb, which the ones in SillyCon Valley did not – but it was American lamb and about $1.50/lb more expensive. Flavor was very good, but a bit different from Australian lamb.)

Not quite up to full speed on the kitchen, but getting there. This stove has a glass top and very slow electric heat. Both warming up and cooling down require you to act a couple of minutes ahead of the food. Gas stoves are vastly better than electric.

Tonight was a lamburger with colby jack cheese. Side of potato chips. Desert of a fruit cup. Yes, still doing things a bit more camping style. We are in an RV Park after all…

The Wine

Haven’t found a well stocked wine store near me, but also not looked hard. I know of a Total Wine store, but it is in downtown Orlando… So I got one each of Yellowtail Shiraz and Cabernet and blended them. Both are very nice on their own, but something lights up in the blend :-)

The News

Russia seems to have driven Australia from the news. Sky Austrslia (via EwTube) has stories about Libs Of TicToc, Boris Johnson, and Putin, with a dozen stories sbout Ukraine. Then complains about China buying politicians in the Solomons.

9 News Australia says Aged Care Workers are going to strike. NSW and Victoria scrap Covid rules. Then wanders off to talk about hot air balloon crashes in Melbourne, NSW Premier texting about trans athletes being leaked, and Johnny Depp testifying. None of which really moves me… except maybe someone getting clue that Chinese Wuhan Covud Rules are so 2019…

Oh Well… maybe no real news IS good news.

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30 Responses to Friends Of Australia Friday 22 April 2022

  1. John Hultquist says:

    Well, for news the Biden-Harris train is still wobbling down a steep grade. The White House issues more corrections than my spelling checker.

  2. Your blending, and ‘lighting up’, the wine makes me think of Primo Levi’s Periodic Table , when Levi describes the laboratory preparation of zinc sulphate. He discovers that ‘the so tender and delicate zinc, so yielding to acid which gulps it down in a single mouthful, behaves, however, in a very different fashion when it is very pure .’ Its reaction needs impurity, a touch of strangeness, a drop of copper sulphate in the diluted sulphuric acid, or it won’t work.

    As a Jew among Mussolini’s Blackshirts, Primo Levi draws a philosophical lesson: purity protects; but impurities give rise to change, and generate life. ‘Dissension, diversity, the grain of salt and mustard are needed: Fascism does not want them, forbids them, and that is why you are not a Fascist, it wants everybody to be the same, and you are not.’

  3. Graeme No.3 says:

    EMS:
    Here is some authentic news from Australia, even if it is the forgotten bit in the middle of the south (& called for some strange reason South Australia – I guess the original inhabitants were low on imagination). It’s the place that had a State-wide blackout in 2016 owing to a failure of supply by an excess of renewables. I guess the current inhabitants were low on forethought.
    We had an election March 20 and the incumbent Government of 4 years was dumped by the electors in favour of the Labor party which had been quite hopeless in the 16 years before that. In the run-up to the election the Attorney General upset many members and was accused of misleading Parliament (over a conflict of interest) and a revolt lead to a vote of no confidence in her, and she was suspended from sitting in the House. She was also Deputy Premier, and had to stand down pending an Inquiry which the then government set a date for completion after the election.
    The government was walloped at the polls but she was returned in her very safe seat, but with an 8.8% swing against her. The old Premier resigned but stayed in Parliament. The new Liberal Leader was elected and formed a Shadow Cabinet which didn’t include her. She suddenly, one month after being re-elected (and on the date the new Shadow Cabinet was announced) retired. The Report on her conduct is going to be released next week, but she escapes penalty.
    By retiring she avoids Censure by Parliament and forgoes a salary of Aus $207,000 a year but now collects an annual pension of $300,000. And, if the Good die young, we’ll be paying out for many years.

  4. H.R. says:

    Graeme No.3: “[…] but now collects an annual pension of $300,000. And, if the Good die young, we’ll be paying out for many years.”

    I was going to say “Priceless!” But I guess we know exactly what it will cost.
    😉

  5. H.R. says:

    @bethetheserf – I like your comments and your essays. You seem to have browsed your way down an aisle of the library that I never got to. So, your selections are some that I would not have run across on my own. “And that’s a g-o-o-o-d thing,” as Martha Stewart would say.


    @all – Check out Beth’s latest. It’s a good one for those of us who possess the ‘Gotta Tinker Around’ gene. It reminds me of that couple of weeks when we went down the rabbit hole on boats, starting with when hominids first clung to a floating log.

    So’s you don’t have to hunt for it…
    https://beththeserf.wordpress.com/2022/04/03/76th-edition-serf-under_ground-journal/

  6. philjourdan says:

    Thank you Graeme #3 for the update. What is missing is the concentration camp status. Is Oz still doing that? Or were they shamed by the Anchor who laughed at them for the faux outrage over China’s behavior when they were doing essentially the same thing?

  7. philemon says:

    Well, this doesn’t look good: https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/are-mrna-vaccines-causing-innate

    It’s consonant with what I read and learned during cancer immunotherapy trials. (None of them were approved.)

    But wait! If you thought the short term events were bad, just wait for the long term ones to show up.

  8. Graeme No.3 says:

    philjourdan:
    There seems to be a slight withdrawal of repression. The new State Government has modified “health” measures so they end next week. No more isolation for ‘close contacts’ but they are expected to have 5 RAT (rapid antigen tests) over that time (and you can guess which sheep will do that). The Health Advisor (‘das Fuhrerin’) has ceased to appear on the TV announcing restrictions. Travel in an out of the State is OK except to Victoria where the locals no longer refer to the Chinese leaning Premier as Do Pi Dan and many are just waiting for the State election later this year.
    The ban on the unvaccinated leaving the country has suddenly disappeared (we have a Federal election on-going). Various States have recently reduced or eliminated travel restriction.
    The Leader of the Federal Opposition, after 2 weeks of gaffes, has cought Covid and is isolating. Already referred to as the Biden tactic. His backroom has said that they’ve been ‘war-gaming’ this possibility for months. This might not be quite as good as they think as several publicity hungry followers have made new gaffes. Not very helpful as they were ahead in the polling (which probably accurately reflected public dissatisfaction with the PM and his mob). The fly-brains in the ointment are the “independents” (known as the Teal greens) who have all suddenly appeared in marginal seats (all held by the government) with substantial finance from those who want to impose “renewables” on us. Strangely none are campaigning in country electorates.
    There is a mood of disenchantment in the electorate. Neither major party has anywhere near majority support (both below 40% and barely above the combined support for alternatives). There has even been comments about the mistake we made setting up Canberra as the Federal Capital and maybe we Plebs would be better off if public servants had to live in the real world.

  9. p.g.sharrow says:

    @philjourdan;
    In my experience,Bureaucrats that are overworked and underpaid tend to be public servants. If well paid and staffed they become public MASTERS,. Much the same can be said for politicians. If the covet the job then they are not qualified to be elected. Public service must be a civic chore, not a career. AND ! they can not exempt themselves from the effects of their decisions
    . ..

  10. philjourdan says:

    @p.g.sharrow – we are in agreement there. I have long said that if you covet public office you are not qualified for public office. same goes for federal jobs (outside of the military). They are WAY overpaid as it is.

  11. another ian says:

    When I got into range management here it was the accepted thing that people served a stint in head office and then resume back in rangeland.

    “Redundancy” was “X is due to retire in 2 years. So we need a new recruit to work with Y and get an on the ground training as the replacement for X.”

    Gone with the wind

  12. another ian says:

    Just back from the 2022 Anzac Day service

  13. Another Ian, we had an Anzac service couple of houses down starting at 5.45PM for dawn. The service started with a recording of gunfire and helicopters flying over and a yellow smoke bomb set off to signify agent orange. We have a cluster of helicopter pilots and plane mechanics around us. There were a few around who were in Veitnam and other wars such as Timor, Gulf war etc. I was in the CMF (Citiizen Military Force) in the university regiment at the time of Veitnam and I was lucky to not be called up. I my wife’s father was a prisoner on the Burma Railway. Something to remember and not to forget the sacrifices.

  14. another ian says:

    cementafriend

    This was a plain and simple service.

    I was just after the old Nasho system and not of interest to the next one. I’m related to a lot of the names on the WW2 Honour Board in the local hall.

    There were a lot of 8th Division troops from out this way. One uncle was 2/10th, survived the Burma Railway but not the Rakuyo Maru. Another local survived through Japan – as he put it “Saved by the Bomb”.

  15. E.M.Smith says:

    A lot of folks were saved by the bomb. Wife’s Dad was USA Airborne. Had received orders in WWII Europe to pack up for the Japan invasion… then the bomb and he was sent home instead…

  16. YMMV says:

    Two bombs. I was curious how fast acting that pill was.
    6 August Hiroshima.
    8 August “the Soviet Union declares war on Japan”
    9 August “the Soviet invasion of Manchuria”
    9 August just before midnight Hirohito told his cabinet “that he did not believe Japan could continue to fight the war”
    10 August “Soviet forces invaded Karafuto”
    10 August (no time given) “Japanese Foreign Ministry transmitted to the Allies that they would accept the Potsdam Declaration”
    18 August “Soviet troops began invading the Kuril Islands”

    That seems pretty convincing. There is a strange plot twist. Potsdam was 17 July 1945.

    Before the Potsdam Declaration was issued, Japan had wanted to attempt peace with the Allies, with some early moves by the government apparent as early as the spring of 1944. By the time the Suzuki cabinet took office on April 7, 1945, it became clear that the government’s unannounced aim was to secure peace.[8] The repeated attempts to establish unofficial communication with the Allies included sending Prince Fumimaro Konoe to Moscow to try to get the Soviet Union to make the Americans stop the war. However, the Soviet Union did not want the Allies to have peace with Japan until they declared war on Japan.[8]

  17. YMMV says:

    The source for the last Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_World_War_II_in_Asia
    Then the next question was how the Russian war against Japan ended.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Japanese_War

    Since the first major Japanese military defeats in the Pacific in the summer of 1942, the civilian leaders of Japan had come to realise that the Japanese military campaign was economically unsustainable, as Japan did not have the industrial capacity to fight the United States, China and the British Empire at the same time, and there were a number of initiatives to negotiate a cessation of hostilities and the consolidation of Japanese territorial and economic gains. Hence, elements of the non-military leadership had first made the decision to surrender as early as 1943. The major issue was the terms and conditions of surrender, not the issue of surrender itself. For a variety of diverse reasons, none of the initiatives was successful, the two major reasons being the Soviet Union’s deception and delaying tactics and the attitudes of the “Big Six”, the powerful Japanese military leaders.

    Easier to keep fighting than to arrange a surrender? What a strange world.

    Tsuyoshi Hasegawa’s research has led him to conclude that the atomic bombings were not the principal reason for Japan’s capitulation. He argues that Japan’s leaders were impacted more by the swift and devastating Soviet victories on the mainland in the week after Joseph Stalin’s 8 August declaration of war because the Japanese strategy to protect the home islands was designed to fend off an Allied invasion from the south and left virtually no spare troops to counter a Soviet threat from the north. Furthermore, the Japanese could no longer hope to achieve a negotiated peace with the Allies by using the Soviet Union as a mediator with the Soviet declaration of war. That, according to Hasegawa, amounted to a “strategic bankruptcy” for the Japanese and forced their message of surrender on 15 August 1945.

    Whatever the reason, everybody can be happy that Japan did not need to be invaded from the south.

    So Russia gained North Korea and then gave it to the local Chinese communists.

    Wars never end, they just get rebranded.

  18. H.R. says:

    @YYMV – I think the bombs were the ‘convincer’ and got everyone on the same page.

    Except… the communists saw opportunity. Commies gotta commie, so they pushed their people to keep going and expand communist holdings, power, and influence.

  19. E.M.Smith says:

    @YMMV:

    Left out of most discussions is that Japan had a nuclear bomb program too. (One of the scientists who ran it has talked on camera and published his notes from then). The claim is that they tested one device in occupied Korea (now North Korea) or were days away from testing: BUT it was so hard to make the nuclear boom stuff they believed the USA only had one device.

    There was argument in the exec levels over it, which took days, but after bomb #2 Japan Exec Level decided they didn’t know how many the USA might have, so surrendered.

    There are 2 interesting results from this understanding:

    1) It explains how North Korea was able to make a bomb so quickly. Leveraging the leftovers of the Japanese program there.

    2) Had the USA not bombed, but invaded 6 months later as scheduled, our fleet would likely have been nuked. That was the Japanese expected schedule for their first use…

  20. philemon says:

    Japan had been looking for a way to end the war since the end of 1944, but they weren’t ready to surrender unconditionally (which was an unprecedented policy on the U.S.’s part). As far as I know, the U.S. military did not advocate the atomic bombings – this was a political decision. Regarding why Japan surrendered, based on their cabinet meeting minutes, the atomic bombings were barely mentioned. The decisive factor was Russia’s declaration of war and the success of Russian operations in Manchuria and in advancing from Sakhalin down the Kurils. Prior to Russia’s declaration of war, Japan had hoped for Russian mediation. Russia was readying to invade Hokkaido and both Japan and the U.S. wanted to stop the war at that point. The atomic bombings were a political action, and the message was directed both to Japan but also, and especially, Russia.

    The narrative that the atomic bombings were necessary to save U.S. servicemen’s lives is purely propaganda for domestic U.S. consumption. From a military law perspective, deliberately targeting civilians for any purpose, including saving soldiers’ lives, is of course a war crime.

    Oh, and the Bikini atomic tests showed how much the U.S. regarded servicemen’s and Marshall Islander’s lives, as in, not very much.

  21. another ian says:

    Not Australia but it involves recipes

    https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2022/04/more-hot-dog-variations-on-theme-oh-my.html

    Builds on his first posting on the subject which is linked in this

  22. philjourdan says:

    Re: Japan and how I learned to love the Bomb – There use to be a troll around here who was a one trick pony. All he talked about was the Japanese Bomb Program that rocket man now has.

    Japan was not that close to having the bomb. They were importing the heavy water from Germany.

  23. YMMV says:

    The selected locations in Japan for dropping the big ones were saved from ordinary bombs, in other to get a test of the bomb’s effects. Two things about that. The Japanese noticed and might have attracted to those places. And there must not have been any military targets there. No war crimes if you win.

    But that is history. What would the US do if the big one was dropped one one city? return strike one city? Or go full out nuke ‘em?

  24. E.M.Smith says:

    @YMMV:

    IIRC, both were valid military targets (manufacturing or ports & ships):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasaki

    Part of Nagasaki was home to a major Imperial Japanese Navy base during the First Sino-Japanese War and Russo-Japanese War.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroshima

    The city was a center of military activities during the imperial era, playing significant roles such as in the First Sino-Japanese War, the Russo-Japanese War, and the two world wars.

    Some folks did notice the lack of bombing and moved there. Big mistake. I think it was not a big migation, just a few.

  25. E.M.Smith says:

    @Philjourdan:

    Um, I think that “troll” was me…

    My belief is that during war, there is no truth and all claims are suspect, including the one that they did NOT succeed in making a bomb. Every side lies during wars (and their immediatd aftermath).

    I’ve seen film of the interview with the Japanese scientist who designed their bomb, and he claimed they were quite far along, but ordered to keep quite about it at war’s end.
    https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2020/09/untold-story-japan-atomic-bomb-robert-k-wilcox.html

    Says it was real. Others say it was not. Pick your fantasy, as neither can be proven.

    It’s little known, however, that at the same time that occurred, August 1945, Japan was desperately trying to perfect its own atomic bomb in Korea and may have tested one by then. The Japanese government was hoping to use it on the coming invasion of the home islands.

    But the test was too late. Nearby Russia, sharing a border with Korea, knew about the Japanese atomic plants. Declaring war on Japan in those last tumultuous days, the Soviets invaded northern Korea, took the Japanese plants, and imposed tight secrecy. When, nearly two years later, they’d finished looting the Japanese atomic plants, they gave them to then fledgling North Korea. That’s the real beginning of today’s North Korean nuclear threat.

    https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/12/113_56715.html

    A debate is still under way as to whether Japan tested a nuclear bomb in Korea during the Second World War. This photograph depicts the area, previously called Konan, but now known as Hamheung, in northeast North Korea. This is where the bomb is said to have been built. More specifically, in the factories seen in the top right hand corner of this photo. The bomb is also supposed to have been tested in the surrounding area, on the morning of August 12, 1945. / Courtesy of Robert Neff

    By Robert Neff
    Contributing Writer

    It is common knowledge that on October 9, 2006 North Korea tested a small nuclear bomb. But there is debate as to whether or not this was the first atomic bomb test done in Korea. Ever since the end of World War II there have been rumors that Japan, just days before its surrender, tested a small atomic bomb off the coast of modern Hamheung.

    Allegedly, on the evening of August 11, 1945, a number of ancient ships, junks and fishing boats were anchored near a small inlet by the Japanese. Just before dawn on August 12, a remote controlled launch carrying the atomic bomb known as “genzai bakudan” (greatest fighter), slowly made its way through the assembled fleet and beached itself.

    Nearly twenty miles away, observers wearing welders’ glasses were blinded by the bomb’s terrific blast. “The ball of fire was estimated to be 1,000 yards in diameter. A multicolored cloud of vapors boiled towards the heavens then mushroomed in the stratosphere. The churn of water and vapor obscured the vessels directly under the burst. Ships and junks on the fringe burned fiercely at anchor. When the atmosphere cleared slightly the observers could detect several vessels had vanished.”

    David Snell, an American journalist, broke the story and published his article on October 2, 1946 in the Atlanta Constitution. The article was based primarily on an interview Snell had with Captain Tsetusuo Wakabayashi (pseudonym), a Japanese counter-intelligence officer, near a Shinto shrine overlooking Seoul (probably near present day Namsan Tower).

    This account has been controversial since it was first published and continues to remain the subject of books and documentaries. Few question Snell’s integrity as a journalist and, as an investigator attached to the 24th Criminal Investigation Department in Seoul, he clearly had access to Japanese officers and scientists but there are many inaccuracies in his account.

    The 2002 discovery of blueprints for a 20-kiloton bomb clearly indicates that the Japanese were trying to develop an atomic weapon at the end of the war. But how close were they?

    Wakabayashi claimed the Japanese atomic bomb project was moved from Japan to Hamheung, at the time the largest industrial center in East Asia, following bombing attacks by American B-29 bombers in April 1945. “We lost three months in the transfer,” declared Wakabayashi. “We would have had genzai bakudan three months earlier if it had not been for the B-29.” Recent accounts support Wakabayashi’s account of the damage done by the B-29s to the research center in Japan but disagree on how close atomic bomb was to production.

    According to Tatsusaburo Suzuki, a Japanese physicist who served as a lieutenant colonel in the Japanese army during World War II: “We believed in 1945 that we could build a bomb but we had to work much harder…I was confident at the time we could have built a bomb if we had better equipment.”

    Nakane Ryohei who worked on enriching uranium for Japan’s atomic bomb efforts said, “We were carrying out our research so leisurely. None of us thought we would finish before the war ended.”

    Wakabayashi claimed that the Japanese, shortly after successfully testing genzai bakudan, realized that the Russians would soon occupy Hamheung and tried to hide or erase the project. They smashed much of the machinery, burned documents and destroyed “several partially completed genzai bakudan.” They also dynamited shut the cave entrance leading into the underground bunker that served as their secret laboratory.

    And on it goes in a tedious sort of “maybe yes maybe no” kind of way.

    I assert it could have been and that there is evidence for it. I do not assert that it certainly was…

  26. H.R. says:

    @another ian – I am all about the hotdogs.

    My favorite is a chili-cheese dog with onions. I do also like a real Chicago dog, dragged through the garden. I used to go to Chicago every year for a machine trade show (IMTS). Even though I was on an expense account, unless there was a client to impress, I’d just gfo out to a street vendor and get a real, live, Chicago dog.

    If it was an end-of-the-World choice – pick one – of hot dogs (any way you want them), hamburgers, lobster, and steak, I’d definitely go with hotdogs. Yum!

    Infinite variations on that theme, and the doggies have as many ways to be spiced (more is better) as there are hotdog makers.

    BTW, a Chicago dog or a chili-cheese dog is not “my favorite”.

    My favorite chili-cheese coney is not to be had anymore. There used to be one-offs of hotdog (coneys), hamburger, and sandwich joints in the ‘downtown’ of even smallish 3,000 or 4,,000 pop. cities.

    In my city, dad would take us three boys to the Barber College, where the barbers-too-be would practice on us poor kids for a mere ten cents per cut. Dad would pay for a ‘Senior’ cut – those who were just about ready to get their Barber’s License. That was a whole whoppin’ 25 cents. We kids got scalped by rookies or ‘Juniors’ for the princely sum of 10 or 15 cents. Dad gave us a nickel to tip the students.

    Right next door to the Barber College was the James Restaurant,, a Coney Island hotdog joint. The coneys were 5 cents when I was a little kid and grew to a whopping 10-for-a-dollar when I was a Senior in H.S. Urban renewal killed off the barber college and the James Restaurant. The James moved from downtown survived about 10 years in the ‘burbs, but soon people forgot about those 1-off joints.

    Anyhow, the James’ coney sauce was my favorite, and the would smother the coneys in onions, cheese extra. We would walk a few blocks North, south, East, or West to try some other one-off coney joints. By vote of dad and us kids, Phillip’s coney came in second.

    The alternative was White Castle hamburgers at 5-cents each. “Give me a dozen Ratburgers, hold the tail!.

    When we – all 80 of us who might be the H.S. graduating class – were in late grade school and our parents loosed us to take the bus downtown, it was always a bragging point as to how many White Castle hamburgers we could eat. 20 of them, $1.00 worth was a lofty goa that few reached.

    A few of us accomplished that feat by about 5th grade. 😁 Those who did it were secretly envied and hated by those who had not yet done it. Part of the problem back then was coming up with a whole dollar to attempt the feat. Most of us were on a 10-cents per week allowance. We needed to win the equivalent of the lottery to attempt the 20-White Castle burger feat.

    The best EVAH! The James Restaurant Coneys smothered in onions. Nathan’s Coney Island dogs at #2, and Chicago all-the-way dogs from the street vendors at #3.

    I’ve never had a NY doggie off a street cart, but I’d like to give them a chance to knock off my 1 or 2 or 3 doggies. Someday… if NY ever gets unwoke.

    /end chili dog fantasy lalalalala…YUM!… lalala… did I say YUM?… lalala… ;o)

  27. philjourdan says:

    @EM – Re Troll – only if you posted under a different name. Like I said, he was a one trick pony. He was not abusive, but every conversation he dragged back to the Japanese ABomb program and NK. I wish I could remember his handle, but he posted a lot of WUWT, so I doubt you. You stated it and moved on. He droned on and on and on about it! So much so that I know as much as you. If he had not been a one trick pony, he would have been good to engage. But regardless of the topic, he always brought it back to that.

    So he violated half of your rules of Blogging. I doubt it was you.

  28. philjourdan says:

    @H.R. & ANother ian – Re: Hot Dogs

    Did someone say hot dogs????

    “My favorite is a chili-cheese dog with onions. I do also like a real Chicago dog, dragged through the garden. “

    My favorite is a well cooked one and I do not mean over cooked! Just cooked right. Then put on whatever you want. Mustard, Ketchup, Mayo (YES MAYO), pickles, kraut, onions, peppers. It is the DOG that counts! But I am partial to Chicago Dogs. Dragged as HR says.

    Growing up, I spent some time with my grandmother due to financial issues (I was farmed out). Every day for lunch I wanted Hot dogs. My grandmother grew concerned! So one day she fixed me a nice PBJ sandwich! I pouted and refused to eat! Did not eat until the next day when she fixed me hot dogs again! She grew very concerned when I then proceeded to talk to the hot dogs and tell them how much I missed them before I ate them!!!!

    People have looked at me strangely ever since. :-)

  29. E.M.Smith says:

    @PhilJourdan:

    I do remember “starting it” but don’t remember anyone trolling it. Then again, who remembers trolls…. maybe they did most of the trolling at WUWT….

  30. E.M.Smith says:

    Per “Hot Dogs”:

    Once I had a Polish Dog, the world was never the same…. slathered in mustard, covered in good sauerkraut, dab of horseradish… best is slow smoke BBQed, but boiled is OK.

    Sometimes some chopped onions, pickle on the side….

    Or melted cheddar and chili…. red onions….

    But the old Ballpark Dog? Only if the Polish is all gone….

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