T12

This is an “overflow” page from prior Tips pages as they had gotten so large it was taking a long time to load. Same idea, just a new set of space to put pointers to things of interest. The most immediately preceding page is: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/t11/.

I’ve added a generic “T” parent page where older copies of the various “Tips” pages can be found archived.

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  1. Gail Combs says:

    An interesting article by Scott Rasmussen of Rasmussen Polls. Beware of the New Elites

    ….most Americans are offended by the revolving door between Washington and Wall Street. The practice of working for the government to network and then cash in with a firm that needs your government contacts is seen as fair only by those who practice it.

    The revolving door hints at the larger problem. The United States is supposed to be a land of opportunity, where everyone can pursue their dreams. Throughout our history, many have started with nothing and risen to the top. But those on top today are busy rewriting the rules to limit entry into their club.

    In her recent Daily Beast column, “America’s New Mandarins,” Megan McArdle describes a new elite that rates education credentials more highly than any other skills. In this world, having a Harvard diploma means more than being willing to work hard or contributing something of value… the best jobs are reserved for those who attended the most prestigious schools. Entry into such schools is restricted to those with wealth and connections. The rest of us are expected to trust the elites to decide what’s fair….

    It expands on what I said in my last comment (still in moderation) about John Dewey father of Progressive Education and Charter Member of the American Fabian Society. Another interesting tidbit is Survey shocker: Liberal profs admit they’d discriminate against conservatives in hiring, advancement

    This reinforces my thoughts that ‘Socialism’ at least the Fabian flavor, was never about what is best for humanity. Instead it is about finding methods to get the sheeple to submit to a new type of Feudalism with them in control. Their chosen heraldic symbol of a wolf in a sheepskin plus what founding members have said does nothing to make me think any different and this latest bit just reinforces it.

    George Bernard Shaw’s views on humanity in his own words

    How eugenics poisoned the welfare state
    The eugenicists aimed to replace natural selection with a planned and deliberate selection. They were alarmed by the fact that the poorest in society bred faster than the middle class, forecasting that this trend would lead to a spiral of degeneration in the gene pool…. In this scenario, the poorest with their ‘defective’ genes were the bogeymen, a class that threatened to contaminate future generations.

    For the Fabians, eugenics was not merely some eccentric hobby or sideline, but central to their social thinking. Beatrice Webb regarded eugenics as ‘the most important question’ of all, while her husband revealed the statist and dirigiste character of the movement with his declaration that ‘no eugenicist can be a laissez faire individualist… he must interfere, interfere, interfere!’ Even for George Bernard Shaw, ‘the only fundamental and possible Socialism’ was ‘the socialisation of the selective breeding of Man’…..

    Another Fabian eugenicist, the writer H.G. Wells, vented his frustration and indignation in a direct address to the working class. ‘We cannot go on giving you health, freedom, enlargement, limitless wealth, if all our gifts to you are to be swamped by an indiscriminate torrent of progeny,’ he complained, ‘…and we cannot make the social life and the world-peace we are determined to make, with the ill-bred, ill-trained swarms of inferior citizens that you inflict upon us.’ It was as if — as in the Brechtian joke — the Fabian left had lost confidence in the people and had determined to dissolve the people and appoint a new one.

    In 1913, the eugenicists succeeded in getting the Mental Incapacity Act through parliament. As a result, some 40,000 men and women were incarcerated without trial, having been deemed to fall into various specious categories such as ‘feeble-minded’ or ‘morally defective’…..

    THE HISTORY OF THE FABIAN SOCIETY Chapter 5: “Fabian Essays” and the Lancashire Campaign: 1890-3 (by a sympathizer)

    Fabian Society by New World Encyclopedia: Organizing knowledge for happiness, prosperity and world peace [which gives us license to rewrite history]

    This is a classic example of the rewriting history:

    The Great Thanksgiving Hoax
    Each year at this time school children all over America are taught the official Thanksgiving story, and newspapers, radio, TV, and magazines devote vast amounts of time and space to it. It is all very colorful and fascinating.

    It is also very deceiving. This official story is nothing like what really happened. It is a fairy tale, a whitewashed and sanitized collection of half-truths which divert attention away from Thanksgiving’s real meaning….

    The problem with this official story is that the harvest of 1621 was not bountiful, nor were the colonists hardworking or tenacious. 1621 was a famine year and many of the colonists were lazy thieves.

    In his ‘History of Plymouth Plantation,’ the governor of the colony, William Bradford, reported that the colonists went hungry for years, because they refused to work in the fields. They preferred instead to steal food. He says the colony was riddled with “corruption,” and with “confusion and discontent.” The crops were small because “much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable.”….

    The first “Thanksgiving” was not so much a celebration as it was the last meal of condemned men.

    …The harvest of 1623 was different. Suddenly, “instead of famine now God gave them plenty,” Bradford wrote, “and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God.” …” In fact, in 1624, so much food was produced that the colonists were able to begin exporting corn.

    What happened?

    After the poor harvest of 1622, writes Bradford, “they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop.” They began to question their form of economic organization.

    This had required that “all profits & benefits that are got by trade, working, fishing, or any other means” were to be placed in the common stock of the colony, and that, “all such persons as are of this colony, are to have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock.” A person was to put into the common stock all he could, and take out only what he needed.

    This “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need” was an early form of socialism, and it is why the Pilgrims were starving. Bradford writes that “young men that are most able and fit for labor and service” complained about being forced to “spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children.” Also, “the strong, or man of parts, had no more in division of victuals and clothes, than he that was weak.” So the young and strong refused to work and the total amount of food produced was never adequate.

    To rectify this situation, in 1623 Bradford abolished socialism. He gave each household a parcel of land and told them they could keep what they produced, or trade it away as they saw fit. In other words, he replaced socialism with a free market, and that was the end of famines…..

    So as early as the 1620’s socialism was tried and failed miserably yet instead of making this a lesson in the USA it is completely twisted around by the Progressive Education System.

    If any experiment in socialism should have worked it would be with the Pilgrims with their strong religious beliefs. But human nature reared it’s head ‘”young men that are most able and fit for labor and service” complained about being forced to “spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children.” Also, “the strong, or man of parts, had no more in division of victuals and clothes, than he that was weak.” Yet four centuries later the elite are trying to base a system of government for the entire world on the same flawed thinking, or that is what they TELL us.

    USE OF GAS CHAMBERS
    “We should find ourselves committed to killing a great many people whom we now leave living, and to leave living a great many people whom we at present kill. We should have to get rid of all ideas about capital punishment … A part of eugenic politics would finally land us in an extensive use of the lethal chamber. A great many people would have to be put out of existence simply because it wastes other people’s time to look after them.”
    Source: George Bernard Shaw, Lecture to the Eugenics
    Education Society, Reported in The Daily Express, March 4,
    1910.
    KILLING THOSE “UNFIT TO LIVE”
    “The moment we face it frankly we are driven to the conclusion that the community has a right to put a price on the right to live in it … If people are fit to live, let them live under decent human conditions. If they are not fit to live, kill them in a decent human way. Is it any wonder that some of us are driven to prescribe the lethal chamber as the solution for the hard cases which are at present made the excuse for dragging all the other cases down to their level, and the only solution that will create a sense of full social responsibility in modern populations?”
    Source: George Bernard Shaw, Prefaces (London: Constable
    and Co., 1934), p. 296.

    “The moment we face it frankly we are driven to the conclusion that the community has a right to put a price on the right to live in it … If people are fit to live, let them live under decent human conditions. If they are not fit to live, kill them in a decent human way.”

    We are already seeing this in action in the UK with it’s Fabian controlled government.

    Eugenics: the skeleton that rattles loudest in the left’s closet: Socialism’s one-time interest in eugenics is dismissed as an accident of history. But the truth is far more unpalatable from the Guardian!!! But the article makes it sound like it is all in the past when that is not the case.

    Why is Royal Society hosting pro-eugenics conference?: Friday, 01 October 2004 15:17

    UK: DNA test for every baby It is done here in the USA too depending on the state.

    Until now, end of life regime the Liverpool Care Pathway was thought to have involved only elderly and terminally-ill adults.

    Almost half of the acute hospital trusts in the East have been offered incentives by the government to put dying patients on a programme that allows doctors to withdraw treatment. More than 10,000 patients in the region have been put on the Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP) in the last three years,

    Ministers order an inquiry into the care pathway payments that saw hospitals receive millions to implement controversial system
    * Several cases have been reported where patients have been put on Liverpool Care Pathway without their family’s knowledge
    * Liverpool Care Pathway through to be a part in 130,000 deaths of hospital patients every year

    Dehydrating Disabled Babies in UK Hospitals

    Abuse of Liverpool Pathway extends to dehydrating newborns with disabilities

    Children placed on controversial ‘death pathway’: Sick children are being placed on a controversial end-of-life “pathway” previously only thought to have been used for elderly and terminally-ill adult patients.

  2. Steve C says:

    To the above, let me add a pointer to Zeke’s comment here re. the situation in Scotland, which sent a chill down my spine.

    On a lighter note, I started reading ‘Circumventing Invasive Internet Surveillance with “Carrier Pigeons”’ on Global Research expecting not much more than a chuckle. But no. Diverting, yes, but interesting, and it also contains a surprising quantity of links to avian communications stories, pigeon trivia and suchlike down a fairly long page. (And I recommend it despite being a city resident with a healthy detestation of the local feral pigeons. ;-)

  3. Zeke says:

    Gail Combs says: HG Wells says: “‘We cannot go on giving you health, freedom, enlargement, limitless wealth, if all our gifts to you are to be swamped by an indiscriminate torrent of progeny,’ he complained, ‘…and we cannot make the social life and the world-peace we are determined to make, with the ill-bred, ill-trained swarms of inferior citizens that you inflict upon us.’

    This mental trick, this hypnotic suggestion, that human life relies in any way on an aristocratic managing class, is recognizable in this statement also from Bill Gates:

    “We’re inventing ways of doing new things that cost $300,000 and take people in their 70s and, on average, give them an extra, say, two or three years of life. And then you have to say, given finite resources, should we fire two or three teachers to do this operation? And with chemotherapies, we’ve got things where we’ll spend our dollars on treatments where you’re valuing a life here at over $10 to $20 million. Really big, big numbers, which if you were infinitely rich, of course that would be fine.

    So most innovations, unfortunately, actually increase the net costs of the healthcare system.”

    This is the ancient Spartan/Platonic lie creeping into these open statements is this: that you exist at the pleasure of the state, and it is the “kindness of the state” that allows you to live on the earth or not. But the Earth belongs to all people, and it is only this extractive aristocracy that first puts people on collective systems, and then claims that there is not enough money for say, this twin baby and that grandmother to live. To live on the Earth is not their gift to give. People have always lived into their 70’s. The innovations and inventions have come from individuals in every walk of life.

  4. Zeke says:

    Now it may be the time to take deep, analytic stock of the science of genetics. I have powerful evidence that it is more full of false assumptions and confirmation bias than even climate science. The studies of monozygotic twins separated at birth and reared apart with carefully selected, highly similar adopted families are being used to support the idea that the source of almost all behavior is genetic. And yet there is no mechanism whatsoever for genes to express themselves in hobbies, college majors, and names of spouses. This is one of the many problems with genetic science such as it is.

  5. Gail Combs says:

    A while back I asked EM to screen capture the Japanese satellite CO2 map for last fall.

    pochas at WUWT gave the site for looking at the maps by selecting dates.
    http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/ghg/kanshi/co2map/gmapplot_e.html

  6. CompuGator says:

    Re: Irish Scots Gaelic Egyptian Connection (comments now closed)
    E.M.Smith says (10 February 2012 at 9:59 pm):

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberians:

    Northeastern Iberian script and southeastern Iberian script share a common distinctive typological characteristic, also present in other paleohispanic scripts: [….] From a writing systems point of view they are neither alphabets nor syllabaries, they are mixed scripts that normally are identified as semi-syllabaries. About this common origin, there is no agreement between researchers: for some this origin is only linked to the Phoenician alphabet while for others the Greek alphabet had participated too.

    Say what!? Neither the Phoenician nor Greek writing system is a semisyllabary; the former is an abjad, and the latter is a (genuine) alphabet. So I interpreted the unclear phrasing of the excerpted anonymous wikist as referring only to the glyphs in Iberian writing systems. Their nearest (genuine) syllabaries would’ve been the Linear B script of ca. 1400 B.C. Crete, altho’ its use was for Mycenaean Greek, and the Cyprominoan script of 13-C.–12-C. Cyprus, for Cypriot Minoan.

    For more on these Iberian scripts, see the more specialized page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleohispanic_scripts.

    Or perhaps better yet, see the dozen-or-so “Iberian Epigraphy” Web pages by an active long-time specialist: Jesús Rodríguez Ramos, indexed at http://webs.ono.com/documenta/. He might be especially sympathetically received herein, because by his account, he’s suffering persecution from his regional linguistics/epigraphy academic establishment.

    It should be clear, e.g., that the 22 letters of Phoenician can’t account for a 37 letter ‘dual’ variant of northeastern Iberian (‘dual’ in the sense of having more-or-less-systematically separate symbols for voiced- vs. unvoiced-consonant syllables).  Only 6 letters of the ‘dual’ script (i.e.: E, I, bI, Du, Te, N) can, with generosity, be attributed to direct borrowings from Phoenician for a comparable sound. But 8 (i.e.: Ge, kA, bI, Du, S, S’, R, L) are most similar to regional variations of archaic Greek (altho’ 1 letter (i.e.: R) is more distinctive in Late Etruscan), and 1 letter (i.e.: gA) to Carian, from Anatolia.

  7. Gail Combs says:

    I just ran across a very interesting artical in the NYT

    The Real War on Reality
    If there is one thing we can take away from the news of recent weeks it is this: the modern American surveillance state is not really the stuff of paranoid fantasies; it has arrived….

    To get some perspective on the manipulative role that private intelligence agencies play in our society, it is worth examining information that has been revealed by some significant hacks in the past few years of previously secret data.

    Important insight into the world these companies came from a 2010 hack by a group best known as LulzSec (at the time the group was called Internet Feds), which targeted the private intelligence firm HBGary Federal. That hack yielded 75,000 e-mails. It revealed, for example, that Bank of America approached the Department of Justice over concerns about information that WikiLeaks had about it. The Department of Justice in turn referred Bank of America to the lobbying firm Hunton and Willliams, which in turn connected the bank with a group of information security firms collectively known as Team Themis.

    Team Themis (a group that included HBGary and the private intelligence and security firms Palantir Technologies, Berico Technologies and Endgame Systems) was effectively brought in to find a way to undermine the credibility of WikiLeaks and the journalist Glenn Greenwald (who recently broke the story of Edward Snowden’s leak of the N.S.A.’s Prism program), because of Greenwald’s support for WikiLeaks. Specifically, the plan called for actions to “sabotage or discredit the opposing organization” including a plan to submit fake documents and then call out the error. As for Greenwald, it was argued that he would cave “if pushed” because he would “choose professional preservation over cause.” That evidently wasn’t the case….

    The hack also revealed evidence that Team Themis was developing a “persona management” system — a program, developed at the specific request of the United States Air Force, that allowed one user to control multiple online identities (“sock puppets”) for commenting in social media spaces, thus giving the appearance of grass roots support. The contract was eventually awarded to another private intelligence firm.

    This may sound like nothing so much as a “Matrix”-like fantasy, but it is distinctly real, and resembles in some ways the employment of “Psyops” (psychological operations), which as most students of recent American history know, have been part of the nation’s military strategy for decades. The military’s “Unconventional Warfare Training Manual” defines Psyops as “planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.” In other words, it is sometimes more effective to deceive a population into a false reality than it is to impose its will with force or conventional weapons. Of course this could also apply to one’s own population if you chose to view it as an “enemy” whose “motives, reasoning, and behavior” needed to be controlled….

    Brings to mind Rummel’s DEATH BY GOVERNMENT

  8. Gail Combs says:

    The above article lead to another good article that expresses my feelings about government/private surveillance better than I ever could.

    Privacy and the Threat to the Self
    …..The connection between a loss of privacy and dehumanization is of course, a well-known and ancient fact, and one for which we don’t need to appeal to science fiction to illustrate. It is employed the world over in every prison and detention camp. It is at the root of interrogation techniques that begin by stripping a person literally and figuratively of everything they own. Our thought experiment merely shows us the logical endgame. Prisoners might hide their resentment, or bravely resist torture (at least for a time) but when we lose the very capacity to have privileged access to our psychological information — the capacity for self-knowledge, so to speak, we literally lose our selves…..

    John Locke, who thought about all these ideas, described personhood in general as a forensic concept. By this, he meant that it was an idea with a legal purpose — and it is. We use it to decide who can be held responsible, and who has rights that the state should not violate. But the concept of an autonomous person has an additional role. It matters because it is the idea we use when we think of ourselves as just that — as developed adult selves. So while privacy, too, is a legal concept, its roots are deeply intertwined with the purposes and point of the more basic concept of having a self. And that in turn raises all sorts of questions worth asking. Some of these are philosophical and psychological: including the limits of, and underlying explanation for, the privacy of the mental. But others should get us to think about how our technologies are themselves changing our ways of thinking about the self.

    However we resolve these issues, we would do well to keep the connections between self, personhood and privacy in mind as we chew over the recent revelations about governmental access to Big Data. The underlying issue is not simply a matter of balancing convenience and liberty. To the extent we risk the loss of privacy we risk, in a very real sense, the loss of our very status as subjective, autonomous persons….

    Nice to know WHY I wish to protect my privacy even though I have ‘done nothing wrong’

  9. j ferguson says:

    That’s good stuff, there, Gail. Thanks for showing them. I’d accumulated some Locke. Now I’ll read.

  10. CompuGator says:

    More Iberian/Re: Irish Scots Gaelic Egyptian Connection (comments now closed)

    In my overnight posting on this topic, I hope readers figured out that I used glyphs, letters, and symbols as interchangeable terms. It’s a lack of discrimination that I’ll blame on separate sessions of drafting and expanding it, a day or 2 apart. My ‘bI’ should’ve been typed as ‘Bi’, because it’s the consonant shape that was used. Maybe I should’ve delayed my posting until today’s daylight and a mug of coffee.

    The ‘dual’-variant N.E.-Iberian glyphs for voiced- vs. unvoiced-consonant syllables were divided by adding a more-or-less-systematic extra stroke somewhere on the voiced glyph to create the unvoiced glyph. So someone in an especially partisan mood might provoke an argument by attributing 2 more glyphs (i.e.: De, Tu) to direct borrowings from Phoenician, even tho’ the consonant glyph on which it’s based is not for the comparable sound in Phoenician, but instead for its voicing opposite. But I’d call “bogus!” on such partisanship.

    I’d overlooked the neoPunic abjad (see, e.g.: Omniglot on Punic; its competitor AncientScripts displays nothing specific), culturally based at the Phoenician colony at Carthage (Mediterranean coast of Africa). One might, with generosity, attribute 3 ‘dual’-variant N.E.-Iberian glyphs (i.e.: I, Bi, dA) to direct borrowings from Punic for a comparable sound.  2 more glyphs (i.e.: SH a.k.a. Š, N) are just too scribbly cursive for me to give them credit for inspiring glyphs in a writing-system that’s presented in a properly monumental style (e.g.: ‘dual’ N.E. Iberian).

  11. Zeke says:

    Compugator, thank you for that post and link on languages. I enjoyed clicking about on the various alphabets. The Italian language came to my attention, and I had not thought of where these dialects came from. A little more history:

    “During the 14th century the Tuscan dialect began to predominate, because of the central position of Tuscany in Italy, and because of the aggressive commerce of its most important city, Florence. In fact, Florentine culture produced the three literary artists who best summarized Italian thought and feeling of the late Middle Ages and early Renaissance: Petrarca, Boccaccio and, specially, Dante Alighieri. Dante was the one who mixed southern Italian languages, especially Sicilian, with his native Tuscan (“supposed” to be derived from Etruscan and Oscan) in his epic poems known collectively as the Commedia, to which Giovanni Boccaccio later affixed the title Divina.”

    To all: recall that Etruria preceeded Rome and likely Greece in all things, and that the Renaissance was Italian in its beginnings, and now Andrea Rossi may make the “grid” completely unnecessary.

    SteveC, enjoyed the thoughts on carrier pigeons. And dovecotes would be nice in any garden (:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dovecote

  12. adolfogiurfa says:

    An emotional speech for you americans:

  13. Gail Combs says:

    Zeke says:….
    Yeah, My husband (a very fit 70) was just told he was “TOO OLD” for a test procedure. (Running ~101F for going on three weeks) GRRRRRrrrrr

  14. Gail Combs says:

    Popocatepetl Volcano in Mexico erupting:

    Popocatépetl volcano (Central Mexico) activity update: Saturday Jul 06, 2013 12:26 PM

    Another phase of near-continuous strong explosions has started a few hours ago after being calmer most of the past night.

    Yesterday morning CENAPRED staff made an overflight over the volcano and took some infrared images which showed continuous emission of ash and incandescent fragments. The ash column reached just over 2 km height and incandescent bombs were observed at altitudes above 1 km and being deposited almost on all sides of the volcano at distances of up to 1.5 km….

    (Has map with active volcanoes)

  15. jim2 says:

    Hey CIO. It’s been awhile since I read much here, but when I saw this, I thought about you.

    “Back in December, I posted that we’re building an open laptop. The post generated hundreds of comments, and I was surprised there was so much interest.

    To be honest, that was overwhelming. Also, there were many who didn’t get what we’re trying to do — as indicated by suggestions along the vein of “use a Core i7 and a fast nVidia graphics chip and sell it for under a hundred bucks and then I’d buy it”.

    Rather than try to convince the Internet about my opinions, or suffer the distraction of running a Kickstarter campaign around a very complex and risky project, I decided to hunker down and stick with what I do best — hacking hardware.

    Despite the lack of updates here, the project is alive and kicking. All our progress has been publicly trackable via our git repos and on our wiki. There’s also a discussion forum, although I tend to check in only once every month. The board-bringup process and feature validation matrix is noted here, and the list of changes from EVT to DVT is documented here. We also had a little adventure writing code that could calibrate wire delays on the DDR3 bus for a variety of SO-DIMM modules.”

    http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=3265

  16. Ralph B says:

    I like to watch grass grow and follow the sea ice area updates. Looks like the plunge has started and what maybe another low ice area year. Its doesn’t appear to be caused by high temps and it seems to really kick off in the Barents and Kara Seas. I hadn’t been checking to see if those areas are stormier than normal and causing the break up…anyone recommend a website that shows the weather in those regions?
    Put me on record for predicting another cold wet N Hemisphere winter. Beer is on me if I am wrong.

  17. Gail Combs says:

    Ralph B
    Charts to go with your statement
    http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php

    So far the ‘mean temperatures for the Arctic area north of the 80th northern parallel’ has been colder than normal and is just getting above freezing: http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
    …………

    Back to volcanoes.
    There is this interesting volcano, Toba. It is the largest known volcano, bigger than Yellowstone.

    There has been a bit of rumbling in the area recently.
    There have been no eruptions at Toba in historical time. The area is seismically active with major earthquakes in 1892, 1916, 1920-1922, and 1987. The Oregon State website shows the fault line in the area but does not mention the more recent quakes. A 6.6 magnitude earthquake NW of Lake Toba super-volcano caldera occurred September 5, 2011 and a few days ago a 4.7 quake occurred in the Toba caldera. That area like Yellowstone and Iceland is sesmically active.

    List of 2013 Significant Earthquakes

    A listing of other quakes near volcanoes in 2013 ( 1,840 results)

    Current Alerts for U.S. Volcanoes

    Alaska Volcano Observatory (includes Russia)

    Papers on Climate, Sun and Volcanoes:
    Sun/dust correlations and volcanic interference

    Study of Dust in Ice Cores Shows Volcanic Eruptions Interfere with the Effect of Sunspots on Global Climate

    Leif Svalgaard of course is over at WUWT defending the position that the sun is constant and has no effect (0.1C) on the climate. link I found it amusing that he still is saying observed changes in TSI “Is based on an obsolete paper by Wang, Lean, and Sheeley from 2005.” despite the fact the website lasp.colorado.edu updated the graph in 2013.

    Bill Illis says: July 6, 2013 at 8:09 am

    tchannon says:
    July 6, 2013 at 6:44 am
    lsvalgaard says:
    July 5, 2013 at 7:48 pm
    tchannon says:
    July 5, 2013 at 7:25 pm
    http://lasp.colorado.edu/sorce/data/tsi_data.htm
    Is based on an obsolete paper by Wang, Lean, and Sheeley from 2005.”
    ————————————–
    The TSI data on that page has been adjusted to conform with the new understanding provided by Kopp and Lean 2011.

    So it is the most accepted current version.

    http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a535690.pdf

    Nice to see that the kowtowing to Leif at WUWT is no longer 100%.
    Leif reminds me of the Wife in this song—> Video

    Lyrics

    Various other lyrics here. I heard it sung by Clam Chowder but there is no video available. (Cathy turns beet red while singing it.)

  18. jim2 says:

    Hey Ralph B. Is there a sea temp measurement for water under/around the sea ice? That would probably be something to look at.

  19. p.g.sharrow says:

    Sea Ice freezes from the top down and melts from the bottom up! Warm currents have much more to do with melting then the summer sun does. Watch the current flow and the ice above. pg

  20. Ralph B says:

    Sea surface temps are not high. Look to be about 28 or so http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/
    And the area doesn’t look too stormy http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/Products/imagery/mosaics.html
    I recall looking at Jeff Id when he made a composite movie of the ice and how it looked like the ice was excreted out the Greenland Iceland passage. I don’t see the ice melting up there, more like berging off and melting (hence cooling) the waters further south.

  21. Ralph B says:

    Found Jeff Id (Condon) sea ice video. I remember another version but can’t seem to find it.
    http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/arctic-ice-weather-patterns/

  22. Zeke says:

    So why do leftists often accuse others as being “unreliable witnesses”? Because they are. Why do leftists often analyze myths, legends, and religion as merely a justification for the power of the elite? Because their own private beliefs are focused on centralized power.

    Here is an interesting statement by a political psychologist, and the data gathered through surveys:


    So what are my conclusions from all that research?

    My conclusion is that self-reports cannot reliably deliver accurate information about political psychology. The unreliability of self-reports is of course a byword so psychologists have devised various ways of allowing for that. Almost all of my research was based on self-reports so I routinely used all the common methods of dealing with their inherent problems. In addition, I used one that is most unusual in psychological research: I confined my research almost entirely to general population samples. Psychologists normally do their research by surveying university and college students and many of such respondents are too “wised up” for the precautions against misleading answers to work well. They tend to give the answers that they think the psychologist wants to hear and are rather good at doing so.

    Even my high level of “precautiousness” was, however, in my final analysis, not good enough when one is examining political attitudes, and it was political attitudes that I was most interested in. What Leftists, in particular, said about themselves lined up very poorly with what is known from history about Leftist behaviour. For example, Leftists are great lovers of a powerful central authority, as preached by Hegel and as seen in Communist movements worldwide, yet there is never any trace of that in survey research results. One would in fact gather from their responses that they are against all that. The supporters of big government tend to portray themselves as opposed to everything about it. Leftists just seem unable to acknowledge their own real attitudes and motivations. The real motivations of Leftists would seem too dismal to be acknowledged.

    So in the end, I think my results do have an important function: They discredit the entire discipline of political psychology insofar as it is based on survey research, which it mostly is. History is our only source of reasonable inferences about human political motivation.
    ~http://jonjayray.tripod.com/

  23. E.M.Smith says:

    Just saw “Michael Smith” giving the weather report on The Weather Channel. Wonder if that’s the same one who wrote the book I bought…. It’s interesting sometimes to be named with a name that has 1:2000 of working population (that statistic has held at every company I’ve worked at with enough population to measure it…).

    I once saw the drowning of Michael Smith in a boating accident reported by Michael Smith (being watched by Michael Smith…)

    There’s also a “Club of Fred Smith” for all the Fred Smith’s of the world. Assuming about 100,000,000 working population in the USA, there ought to be about 50,000 of us knocking about. Might be a bit large for a club ;-)

    At any rate, for anyone else who saw it and might be wondering: No, I’m not THAT Michael Smith. (He’s younger than me and better looking too ;-)

    It is just a bit strange, though, to hear someone call out your name on the TV and announce that you are about to do something or other…

  24. adolfogiurfa says:

    As quoted by Michele Casati at NIA ( http://daltonsminima.altervista.org/?page_id=9506#comment-116708 ) :
    If the incenter point instead is the atmosphere, given the minimum amount of energy (proportional to the low air density), usually do not have high energy phenomena but perhaps luminous phenomena. But if, for the rare case, in that moment transitasse a plane that is composed of material of high density, would occur at least the phenomenon of the air gap. If the “vacuum” is intense, motors, high density and therefore of great energy storage, would be “fired” with great speed, without being able to drag the rest of the mass of the airplane. Therefore break off abruptly, however, causing the collapse of the structure as well as “other.” Usually the large aircraft, suffer the most serious accidents during periods of
    alignment of the Sun, the Earth and the Moon (new moon or full moon) and while they are coming to take-off or landing. I know many incidents of large aircraft forcibly explained and also someone who has not been able to explain with current knowledge. I have a duty to report, although I receive at least misunderstanding about these and other natural phenomena which always occur on Earth even though the explanation may seem far-fetched

    http://www.earth-prints.org/bitstream/2122/2755/3/Sassara.pdf

  25. Zeke says:

    Excuse me, I would like to dedicate a song to our Humble House of Representatives, in honor of this latest action:
    Breaking News from Newsmax.com
    House GOP Pushes Huge IRS Cuts to Stop Obamacare

    I would like to remind all of you that the House has voted to repeal Obamacare over 30 times. They were safely re-elected – note to GOP.

    The song is “When Something So Right” by P Simon

    When something goes wrong
    I’m the first to admit it
    I’m the first to admit it
    And the last one to know
    When something goes right
    Oh, it’s likely to lose me
    It’s apt to confuse me
    Because it’s such an unusual sight I swear, I can’t, I can’t get used To something so right Something so right
    Oh, something so right

    Read more: PAUL SIMON – SOMETHING SO RIGHT LYRICS

  26. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Zeke: Your health care law is needed to end the obesity problem in the USA…. :-)

  27. Zeke says:

    Oh I have no doubt the IRS can make us all very thin.

  28. Ralph B says:

    Over at WUWT Willis made an excellent post on pump price. In the comments Gail Combs really put the whoop a$$ on some trolls. I propose we change her handle to Gail “The Rock” Combs cause when she has a case to make she comes at you from the top rope.
    My hats off to her…

  29. Gail Combs says:

    Thanks Ralph, I just added another couple of comment s today.

    A friend from the People Republic of TaxachUsetts (staunch Democrat) sent this along with the rest of his jokes link

  30. Verity Jones says:

    E.M.
    you might find this interesting – new incites into how extensively toxoplasmosis can affect behaviour and hinting that other parasites are overlooked: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/03/how-your-cat-is-making-you-crazy/308873/2/

  31. Gail Combs says:

    Now on the correct page.

    In discussing the Zimmerman case my Husband turned up some interesting information.

    Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategy for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism
    ….Pacepa and Rychlak also document how the U.S. “mainstream media’s” enduring sympathy for all things liberal-left has made it vulnerable to–indeed, the prime carrier of–civilization-transforming campaigns of lying, defamation and historical revisionism that turn reality on its head.

    In Disinformation, you’ll discover:

    * How destroying the reputation of good leaders has been developed into a high art and science.

    * How Pope Pius XII –a generation ago the world’s most high-profile Christian leader, who personally saved countless Jews from Hitler’s Holocaust–was transformed, through the magic of disinformation, into a Nazi sympathizer.

    * How Christianity and Judaism have been targeted for constant denigration and defamation through an ongoing campaign of disinformation.

    * How the Soviet bloc planted 4,000 agents of influence in the Islamic world, armed with hundreds of thousands of copies of the most infamous anti-Semitic book in history, to fan the flames of ancient Arab resentments against the U.S. and Israel and sow the seeds of anti-Semitism that would later bloom in the form of violence and terror toward Jews and Christians.

    * How the defamatory attacks on American soldiers John Kerry made before Congress upon his return from Vietnam–charges later discredited and repudiated–were identical to a contemporaneous KGB disinformation campaign concocted to turn Americans against their own leaders.

    * How supposedly respectable institutions like the World Council of Churches have long been infiltrated and controlled by Russian intelligence.

    * How much of the world came to believe that the U.S. government itself masterminded the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

    * How the Soviet Union has been transformed into the first intelligence dictatorship in history.

    * How disinformation is still very much alive in the age of Obama, remaining a powerful engine in the ongoing socialist transformation of America.

    All this and much more is meticulously documented in Disinformation, with the credibility of an eyewitness who was not only there, but actively involved as a Soviet bloc spy chief–who, thanks to a crisis of conscience, “left the dark side” and came to America to help shine a light on the greatest source of political evil of the modern age.


    ….FP: Mr. Pacepa, you had direct knowledge of the KGB’s ties to Oswald and you also have had access to newly disclosed KGB documents. Tell us a bit about your own personal expertise in terms of this subject and the recently declassified evidence you have seen. Then kindly share with us the conclusions you have arrived at.

    Pacepa: Moscow, of course, admitted nothing to us, the leaders of the Soviets’ surrogate intelligence services, about any involvement in the Kennedy assassination. The Kremlin knew that any indiscretion could start World War III. But for 15 years of my other life at the top of the Soviet bloc intelligence community, I was involved in a world-wide disinformation effort aimed at diverting attention away from the KGB’s involvement with Lee Harvey Oswald, the American Marine who had defected to Moscow, returned to the U.S., and killed President Kennedy.

    We launched rumors, published articles and even produced books insinuating that the culprits were in the U.S., not in the Soviet Union. Our ultimate “proof” was a note addressed to “Mr. Hunt,” dated November 8, 1963 and signed by Oswald, copies of which turned up in the U.S. in 1975. We knew the note was faked, but American graphological experts certified that it was genuine, and conspiracy theorists connected it to the CIA’s E. Howard Hunt, by then well known from the Watergate affair, and used it to “prove” that the CIA was implicated in the Kennedy assassination.

    Original KGB documents in the Mitrokhin Archive, brought to light in the 1990s, finally proved that the note was forged by the KGB during the Watergate scandal. The forged note was twice checked for “authenticity” by the KGB’s Technical Operations Directorate (OTU) and approved for use. In 1975 the KGB mailed three photocopies of the note from Mexico to conspiracy buffs in the United States.[1] (The KGB rules allowed only photocopies of counterfeited documents to be used, to avoid close examination of the original).

    After the Soviet Union collapsed, I hoped the new leaders in Moscow might reveal the KGB hand in the Kennedy assassination. Instead, in 1993 they published Passport to Assassination: the Never-Before-Told Story of Lee Harvy Oswald by the KGB Colonel Who Knew Him, a book claiming that a thorough investigation into Oswald had found no Soviet involvement with him whatsoever.[2] Hangmen do not incriminate themselves……..

    FP: So give us some concrete KGB fingerprints.

    Pacepa: Let’s take the handwritten note in Russian Oswald left his Soviet wife, Marina, just before he tried to kill American general Edwin Walker in a dry run before going on to assassinate President Kennedy. That very important note contains two KGB codes: friends (code for support officer) and Red Cross (code for financial help). In this note, Oswald tells Marina what to do in case he is arrested. He stresses that she should contact the (Soviet) “embassy,” that they have “friends here,” and that the “Red Cross” will help her financially. Particularly significant is Oswald’s instruction for her to “send the embassy the information about what happened to me.” At that time the code for embassy was “office,” but it seems that Oswald wanted to be sure Marina would understand that she should immediately inform the Soviet embassy. It is noteworthy that Marina did not mention this note to U.S. authorities after Oswald’s arrest. It was found at the home of Ruth Paine, an American friend with whom Marina was staying at the time of the assassination.

    FP: The Warren Commission and the House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded that Oswald had no connection whatsoever with the KGB. But according to your book, Oswald secretly met an officer of the KGB’s assassination department in Mexico City just a few weeks before shooting President Kennedy. What’s the evidence?

    Pacepa: There are many bits of evidence proving Oswald’s connection with the KGB. A tangible one is the letter he sent to the Soviet embassy in Washington a few days after meeting “Comrade Kostin” in Mexico City. Elsewhere Oswald identified the person he had met there as “Comrade Kostikov.” The CIA has identified Valery Kostikov as an officer of the PGU’s Thirteenth Department for “wet affairs” (wet being a euphemism for bloody). A handwritten draft of that letter was found among Oswald’s effects after the assassination. The previously mentioned Ruth Paine testified that Oswald re-wrote that letter several times before typing it on her typewriter. Marina stated he “retyped the envelope ten times.” It was important to him. A photocopy of the final letter Oswald sent to the Soviet embassy was recovered by the Warren Commission. Let me quote from that letter, in which I have also inserted Oswald’s earlier draft version in brackets:

    “This is to inform you of recent events since my meetings with comrade Kostin [in draft: “of new events since my interviews with comrade Kostine”] in the Embassy of the Soviet Union, Mexico City, Mexico. I was unable to remain in Mexico [crossed out in draft: “because I considered useless”] indefinily because of my mexican visa restrictions which was for 15 days only. I could not take a chance on requesting a new visa [in draft: “applying for an extension”] unless I used my real name, so I returned to the United States.”

    The fact that Oswald used an operational codename for Kostikov confirms to me that both his meeting with Kostikov in Mexico City and his correspondence with the Soviet Embassy in Washington were conducted in a PGU operational context. The fact that Oswald did not use his real name to obtain his Mexican visa confirms this conclusion….

    Seems the Conspiracy Theorists had a real helping hand. You kind of wonder where the heck the CIA was in all this.

    Then we get: National Intelligence Council Global Governance 2025 Report

    U.S. Intelligence Community is a coalition of 17 agencies and organizations…

    Global Governance 2025″ report compiled by the US National Intelligence Council and the European Union Institute of Security Studies

    The European Union Institute for Security Studies (EUISS)… is funded by the EU member states according to a GNP-based formula….
    And a more recent EUISS report: Global Trends 2030 – Citizens in an Interconnected and Polycentric World – Brussels launch

    …The three major global trends shaping the future were said to be:

    1) The growing empowerment of individuals, contributing to a sense of belonging to a single human community;

    2) A greater stress on sustainable development against a backdrop of greater resource scarcity and persistent poverty, compounded by the consequences of climate change;

    3) The emergence of a more polycentric world characterised by a shift of power away from states, and growing governance gaps as the mechanisms for inter-state relations fail to respond adequately to global public demands.

    These three main trends were said to all have profound implications for EU foreign and security policy and should be taken seriously….

    So it would seem we really are thought of as cattle to be driven.

  32. CompuGator says:

    To read an “October 03, 2007” article in which an interviewer designated “RP” is interviewing former Romanian spy chief Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa, the link needed is not a circular generic one to “T12” (as above), but one into the archive of a FrontPageMagazine.com: http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28335.

    Or perhaps to its copy at www.FreeRepublic.com (altho’ I’m reluctant to cite the copy there, because I suspect that some day, a judge somewhere will rule that FreeRepublic has stretched ‘fair use’ waaay past the breaking point, and make it all disappear.

  33. Gail Combs says:

    CompuGator, thanks my html got croggled. My eyes have been bothering me and I have trouble reading the computer screen – (allergies nothing serious)

    The first link was to the book itself and the blurb:
    http://www.amazon.com/Disinformation-Undermining-Attacking-Promoting-Terrorism/dp/1936488604

    And the second link wast to FP – Front Page Magazine:
    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28335

  34. Gail Combs says:

    More info from random wandering around the internet.
    I stumbled on this article at Forbes. U.S. Tax System Ranks 94th Out Of 100 — Right Below Zimbabwe

    This comment from David S. Lesperance, an International Tax lawyer on the ‘Flight of the Golden Geese’ is quite interesting.

  35. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Gail Combs: That´s a crazy table: A product of the Statistical Creed you believe in.

  36. gallopingcamel says:

    Gail Combs
    “Another Fabian eugenicist, the writer H.G. Wells, vented his frustration and indignation in a direct address to the working class. ‘We cannot go on giving you health, freedom, enlargement, limitless wealth, if all our gifts to you are to be swamped by an indiscriminate torrent of progeny,’ he complained, ‘…”

    How ironic! Members of the ruling class threatening to take back the bounties that their “Inferiors” actually produce!

    H.G.Wells lived long enough to see what came of suppressing Untermensch and exalting Aryan supermen. I wonder if he still approved of that evil idea when he died in 1946.

  37. gallopingcamel says:

    I guess that nothing much changed since H.G. Wells.

    Now we have Prince Charles and Al Gore scolding the great unwashed for over consumption while they live in opulence!

  38. adolfogiurfa says:

    @gallopingcamel: Now we have Prince Charles and Al Gore scolding the great unwashed for over consumption while they live in opulence!
    Both are REPTILIANS!!

  39. gallopingcamel says:

    Gail Combs,
    That comment from David S. Lesperance was really interesting. The idea of “Shopping for Jurisdictions” by High Net Worth individuals is one of the themes of “The Sovereign Individual” by James Dale Davidson & William Rees-Mogg (1997).

    While this camel is by no means a HNW creature, many of the concepts apply even to “Church Mice”. It is a matter of cost/benefit analysis; at present I get the cost and someone else gets the benefit. The minute I stop working I will be on my way to another jurisdiction where the cost of living is much lower than Brevard county, Florida. I will be paying for services received rather than services for others:
    Local taxes………25%.
    Income taxes……..0%. I will have no taxable local income.
    Medical costs……20%. The service is far better too. Doctors still make house calls!
    Gasoline…………..90% Taxis are so cheap I will probably leave my cars in the USA.
    Groceries…………70% The quality is excellent especially baked products and fresh fruit.
    Socializing………..50%. Restaurants and local booze are really good and affordable.

    Probably my greatest mistake was applying for US citizenship. Given the US government’s quaint practice of taxing “World Wide Income” I will still be paying federal income taxes regardless of where I live. Failing to pay “Uncle Sam” is not an option as my pensions are vulnerable to garnishment by the IRS.

    Relinquishing citizenship is a possibility and I am thinking through the pros and cons of such action.

    The UK recently decided to hike the taxes for “Fat Cats” with the effect that the tax collected fell sharply. The top tax brackets in the UK were already well to the right of the peak in the “Laffer Curve”.
    http://www.thinkadvisor.com/2012/11/28/where-have-all-of-britains-millionaires-gone

  40. Gail Combs says:

    adolfogiurfa says:
    13 July 2013 at 1:04 am

    @Gail Combs: That´s a crazy table: A product of the Statistical Creed you believe in.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Actually it was the international tax accountant’s comment that I found so interesting. (My creed is How to Lie with Statistics )

    Think about it. The wealthy ruling class has always protected their assets while raping that of the poor and middle classes. BUT there has alway been in fighting among themselves as well as attacks on the upstarts. By having some countries that are tax havens the wealthy, who are much more mobile than we, can still protect their assets while putting a real squeeze on the assets of enemies as well as that of the middle class.

    After all the whole aim of an intricate regulation system without trial by jury is to protect the favored while persecuting enemies and upstarts. It has nothing to do with protecting the ordinary citizen.

  41. Gail Combs says:

    Galloping Camel, Let us know where you are galloping off to when you decide. Leaving the USA has been an idea in the back of my head if we ever retire.

  42. Gail Combs says:

    This showed up today at the end of a week old WUWT post and I do not want to see it get overlooked. (I cleaned up the spacing a bit to make it easier to read.)

    Carla says:
    July 13, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/11/the-solar-cycle-is-still-slumping/#comment-1363461

    ….a somewhat Earthly origin to this Van Allen belt reaction. As there are other interactions that can cause particle precipitation from the radiation belts. I was Very surprised to anything anthropogenic in this mess.

    ANNALS OF GEOPHYSICS, 55, 1, 2012; doi: 10.4401/ag-5365
    Special Issue: EARTHQUAKE PRECURSORS

    Characteristics of flux-time profiles, temporal evolution, and spatial distribution of radiation-belt electron precipitation bursts in the upper ionosphere before great and giant earthquakes.

    http://www.annalsofgeophysics.eu/index.php/annals/article/viewFile/5365/5677

    Georgios C. Anagnostopoulos1, Efthymios Vassiliadis1, Sergey Pulinets2,3
    1 Space Research Laboratory, Democritus University of Thrace, Xanthi, Greece
    2 Fiodorov Institute of Applied Geophysics, Moscow, Russia
    3 Space Research Institute, Russian Academy of Sciences, Moscow, Russia

    ABSTRACT
    The analysis of energetic electron observations made by the DEMETER satellite reveals that radiation belt electron precipitation (RBEP) bursts are observed in general several (~1-6 days) before a large (M > 6.5) earthquake (EQ) in the presence of broad band (~1-20 kHz) VLF waves. The EBs show in general a relative peak-to-background flux increase usually 6.5), but the results from an investigation not yet published suggest that such events are also observable before earthquakes with lower magnitudes (M >~5). We understand the radiation belt energetic electron precipitation related with an earthquake as a ring in the chain of electromagnetic processes that can start above the Earth surface with the anomalous electric field, which can cause an increase in the VLF electric field wave activity in the magnetosphere. It has been suggested that a cyclotron resonance interaction between VLF waves and radiation belt energetic electrons is responsible for variations in the electron velocity phase space, and as a result, a part of the trapped electrons of the radiation belt change their pitch angles and travel towards the Earth, where they are recorded by low orbit satellites in the topside ionosphere. It is important to note that the ionization produced by the precipitation of electrons from the radiation belts in the lower ionosphere produces disturbance in the D region of the ionosphere at night, which is then observed both from ground and space instrumentation [Pulinets 2011]. The results of the present study might open a new window in earthquake prediction research. We note that the methodology of radiation belt energetic particle events earthquake precursor signals has the particular advantage of studying distant earthquake preparation regions…

  43. Gail Combs says:

    Well that did not work very well so I will try again.

    ANNALS OF GEOPHYSICS, 55, 1, 2012; doi: 10.4401/ag-5365
    Special Issue: EARTHQUAKE PRECURSORS

    Characteristics of flux-time profiles, temporal evolution, and spatial distribution of radiation-belt electron precipitation bursts in the upper ionosphere before great and giant earthquakes.

    Georgios C. Anagnostopoulos1, Efthymios Vassiliadis1, Sergey Pulinets2,3
    1 Space Research Laboratory, Democritus University of Thrace, Xanthi, Greece
    2 Fiodorov Institute of Applied Geophysics, Moscow, Russia
    3 Space Research Institute, Russian Academy of Sciences, Moscow, Russia

    ABSTRACT
    The analysis of energetic electron observations made by the DEMETER satellite reveals that radiation belt electron precipitation (RBEP) bursts are observed in general several (~1-6 days) before a large (M > 6.5) earthquake (EQ) in the presence of broad band (~1-20 kHz) VLF waves. The EBs show in general a relative peak-to-background flux increase usually < 100, they have a time duration of ~0.5 – 3 min, and their energy spectrum reach up to energies 6.5).

    The main results of our study are the following:
    (1) Earthquake precursory RBEP (Radiation Belt Electron Precipitation) events show flux-time profiles with:

    (a) two EBs at middle latitudes, with one burst above the future epicenter and a conjugate one in the other hemisphere (Japan, Chile);
    (b) only one EB at north middle latitudes, when the SAA affects the south hemisphere (south-eastern Europe/Greece);
    (c) one EB above an earthquake epicenter at low latitudes (Haiti); and
    (d) one EB above an earthquake epicenter at low latitudes and two symmetric EBs at north and south latitudes (Sumatra).

    (2) For earthquakes in Japan, a standard temporal variation of the number of EBs was found, which begins with an incremental rate several days before major earthquakes, and which after a maximum, decreases so that electron precipitation ceases above the region of the future epicenter a few hours before the occurrence of the earthquake.

    (3) The analysis of the spatial distribution of the EBs for the earthquake of August 16, 2005, in Japan reveals that the RBEP bursts were reduced in the space near the epicenter before the earthquake occurrence.

    (4) Strong RBEP bursts above the Chile earthquake were observed not only in the nightside, but also in the dayside upper ionosphere.

    The present study was based on results from a systematic study of the DEMETER satellite measurements at low and middle latitudes before very strong earthquakes (i.e. M >6.5), but the results from an investigation not yet published suggest that such events are also observable before earthquakes with lower magnitudes (M >~5). We understand the radiation belt energetic electron precipitation related with an earthquake as a ring in the chain of electromagnetic processes that can start above the Earth surface with the anomalous electric field, which can cause an increase in the VLF electric field wave activity in the magnetosphere. It has been suggested that a cyclotron resonance interaction between VLF waves and radiation belt energetic electrons is responsible for variations in the electron velocity phase space, and as a result, a part of the trapped electrons of the radiation belt change their pitch angles and travel towards the Earth, where they are recorded by low orbit satellites in the topside ionosphere. It is important to note that the ionization produced by the precipitation of electrons from the radiation belts in the lower ionosphere produces disturbance in the D region of the ionosphere at night, which is then observed both from ground and space instrumentation [Pulinets 2011]. The results of the present study might open a new window in earthquake prediction research. We note that the methodology of radiation belt energetic particle events earthquake precursor signals has the particular advantage of studying distant earthquake preparation regions…
    http://www.annalsofgeophysics.eu/index.php/annals/article/viewFile/5365/5677

  44. Gail Combs,
    Probably the best retirement location in Latin America is Panama but my family considered it too hot so we spent more than a year roaming around Mexico, Costa Rica and Colombia. In the end we chose Colombia and moved to Bogota in 2006 but reluctantly returned to the USA in 2007.

    As soon as my youngest son completes his electrical engineering degree at UCF my wife and I plan to spend our declining years in Llano Grande a few miles from Medellin’s international airport. The cost numbers that I gave earlier are typical for the suburbs of major cities in Colombia, namely Bogota, Medellin and Cali.

    The most striking contrast is the cost of medical care. My wife was quoted $1,400 for an MRI in Florida which only cost $102 in Bogota. When we asked a doctor to “Read” the MRI report he refused to charge us!

    Bogota has “World Class” golf courses including El Rincon and Los Lagartos. My personal favorite is La Cima owing to its spectacular scenery:
    http://www.worldgolf.com/courses/colombia/la-cima-golf-club.html

    Given my advanced age, Bogota’s altitude (>8,600 feet) was getting to me especially on the uphill holes. Llano Grande at roughly 7,000 feet does not bother me.

  45. pyromancer76 says:

    E.M., now that you are more comfortably ensconced in your new state of Florida, you might want to apply your unique kind of analysis to some of the most wide-spread corruption of truth, the scientific method, and independent investigative journalism – or not. In any case, I refer you to TheConservativeTreehouse, a site that, to me like, WUWT, is developing as an “alternative institution”. I wish there was some way to figure out how — given human nature and the need for profits — someone could manage to create a more independent media. The link below refers to the massive research done by Sundance and Creepers to keep civil rights connected to truth and integrity — http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/07/14/a-nation-of-george-zimmermans-awakened-understand-the-fraud-post-verdict-of-acquittal/#more-66108

  46. E.M.Smith says:

    @Pyromancer76:

    I’ll take a look. FWIW, though, I’m really tired of the “4 walling” of Zimmerman… He was getting beaten and killed a guy in self defense. He ought to have been acquitted. Yet… he chose to stupidly put himself in harms way as a ‘toy cop’ or ‘cop wannabe’. If “stupid were a crime” he’d be in trouble, IMHO. He could have stayed in the car and watched from a distance. Be eyes and ears and nothing more and both folks would have had decent lives. Now, thanks to him being stupid and playing toy cop; one is dead and The Left will make his life a living hell for the next few decades with all sorts of vilification and attempts to turn a tragedy into a Civil Rights Circus.

    Lost somewhere along the way is that Zimmerman is not white. He is from a mixed race heritage. (Though what races was not made clear by the news report… I suspect perhaps Hispanic / white). As America is on the cusp of having no pure races left anymore, it’s going to be important for The Left to find ways to classify mixed race folks as “white” to maintain their tool of racial division to keep folks herded into the emotional plantation…

    My ancestors spent a few thousand years trying to kill each other off. ( Catholics and Protestants; English and Irish; Germans and {everybody else} ;-) and some Vikings and French and a few other ‘mixes’…) We’ve “got over it”. Yes, my skin as about as white as it comes. (Transparent pink, actually, those ‘redhead genes’…) Doesn’t change the fact that my ancestors spend most of their time “taking dirt” about each other and killing each others tribes. Oh Well.

    So if it takes a bit longer for the rest of the human tribes to stop being so… so… “tribal”, that’s ok too I guess.

    But just looking at my sisters kids (and their kids). My kids direct relatives (cousins) are a mix of Spanish, American Indian (via Mexican and via North American Indian), most all of the various European types who have been killing each other for generations, and some bits we’re not sure about. My kids are likely going to increase the blending too, given their wide ranging dating patterns (one was dating a person of mixed African ancestry with green eyes… a striking mix…) So if we are at all representative, The Race Card has about one more 30 year generation to run before there isn’t any Race left that can be clearly defined. Don’t know what the Dimocrats will do then. Try to set Mexicans against Nortes? Who knows… Don’t really care, either. We are just having a big party and getting on with the business of enjoying this life. “Take big bites. This life is not a dress rehearsal!”

  47. adolfogiurfa says:

    @E.M. Want to know your ancestors in your DNA?, just ask your NSA agent :-)

  48. pyromancer76 says:

    E.M. Zimmerman was not “playing cop”. I hope you use your excellent nose for lies from the media and the government. There are people-safety issues in Florida — as well as in other states — because of the changes emanating from our government regarding “liberty and justice for all”. Some people, depending on their politics, not race or ethnic origin, (race is simply a cover for envy, greed, and deadly revenge) should not be tried for criminal action, no matter what they have done. Here is another excellent piece of investigative journalism. Your life, and that of your family in Florida, depend on fighting back regarding these dangerous changes in U.S. law, doesn’t matter whether you are white, black, gray, or green. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/07/trayvon-martins-involvement-in-local-burglaries-covered-up-by-media-school-police-prosecutors.html

  49. pyromancer76 says:

    Also, The Other McCain today: http://theothermccain.com/. There is so much more about Martin’s background and conduct that was purposefully and “Illegally” left out of the trial — e.g., one part of cell phone info included and another part kept out. This a tragedy of “parenting”, including the necessary backup discipline on the part of the police/law.

  50. Chiefio,
    I think you have it right. Too bad that stupidity is not a crime.

  51. Zeke says:

    Martin Luther King Jr’s dream was that all people would be estimated by their words and actions, not by their outward appearance, and for hard work, devotion, and focus, there would be opportunity. But these policies that emphasize hiring or college acceptance quotas, or that race bait, or that create welfare dependence, are quite the opposite of anything he ever said. We all know it.

    This is more like a 3rd party in our country than the GOP, lol (:

    Dr. Ben Carson on the IRS use of its extensive power to persecute political enemies and its central role in enforcing Obamacare.

  52. Zeke says:

    Revelation 13:16 “He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[f] the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.”

    Possibly refers to an RFID, radio frequency identification. Obamacare permits the use of implantable devices, and there are also ink versions of RFIDs which can be permanently placed on the skin. Some states have already passed laws that outlaw placing any mark or implantation on its citizens. The means, motive, and opportunity is now available in our country for a mark to be placed in the right hand or on the forehead, and for this to be enforced through economic coercion (IRS in the US). However, this does not mean it is inevitable at this time; it could still be delayed because people have free will. This is the text.

    (666 mHz??)

  53. Steve C says:

    Zeke, 666MHz, although an appealingly plausible option, is pretty unlikely, as that frequency is smack in the middle of the TV broadcasting band in most countries. Interference to the RF side of the ID would, at the least, reduce the reliable range, which is not what you’d want for world domination.

    A quick search on “rfid frequencies” (without quotes) suggests that existing RFID technology uses 4 main bands –
    Low frequency (100-500kHz). “Just Below the Medium Wave BC band”;
    High frequency (10-15MHz). “Around the Middle of the Shortwave”;
    Ultra High Requency (850-950MHz). “Next to the Top of the TV band” and
    Microwave (2.4-5.8GHz). “Up with the WiFis and Microwave Ovens”.
    This page has a brief outline of the uses of the different bands, which vary with the characteristics typical of the bands used, with a little more detail here. They all seem to be shared with other services, although most (if not all) radio licences these days have a clause somewhere about not causing excessine interference to other services and being reasonably resilient to interference from them.

    Agree re means, motive, and opportunity, and my commendations to the states you mention. Unfortunately I can’t see the “United Kingdom of the City of London and its Serfs” showing similar enlightenment any time soon, so I may have to wait for an ex cathedra pronouncement from the Church of the Sacred Carbon! ;-)

  54. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Steve C: Exactly!….but those are frequency of Transversal Waves not of SCALAR WAVES (sound-like waves)….

  55. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Zeke: About our responsibility in regard to OUR health:

  56. Zeke says:

    Steve, it is very unlikely that the number refers to a frequency of 666Mhz, although there has been some reshuffling of some of the frequencies and uses. The air waves are considered “public” so people have been charged to use frequencies locally they have always used. I know of this only anecdotally. I cannot interpret the number itself; it may be a numerical value of a name. It may coincide with several things. I do not know what the future of media such as radio is.

    The RFID devices are not yet standardized for every continent, and I suppose a separate frequency could still be used for each country. But it also may become standardized all over the world. The problem is that there is too much data generation, but the supercomputers now have more ability to track and filter the data.

    The RFID has also been used by owners to turn on lights, open cars, and log on to computers. It is also used to tally miles traveled on toll roads and automatically calculate the charge. They cost less than fifty cents. Every one gets the picture.

    The problem associated with it later is a terrible sore, according to John’s prophecy. This may either be because of the lithium batteries, or because the frequency chosen will coincide with some natural disaster. “Pay now or pay later.” The technology is there, and I think this was another problem with Justice John Roberts ruling that Obamacare is “constitutional,” because the provision for medical ID devices is included.

  57. Zeke says:

    SteveC says: link
    “Standardised Bands

    Radio waves and frequency bands and their standards are managed by the ITU-R (International Telecommunications Union for Radio Communication) and they have Radio Regulations, that apply to RFID technology. Their chart below defines the named frequency type allocation and each individual matching wavelength range.”

    The ITU had a meeting in Dubai recently, and an attempt was made to increase regulation of the internet by the UN. As far as we know, nothing was accomplished. But I personally believe that this slinking fellow Snowden has a part to play in giving the nations of the world an excuse to call for the ITU to remove the US from its role in governance and regulation of the internet. Snowden has run to precisely the countries that want more control of internet access and use. They will now attempt to complain about the surveillance in the US. But they all do the same. New regulations of all frequencies and the internet would be included in future meetings of the ITU.

    Dubai: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=dubai&FORM=HDRSC2

  58. Zeke says:

    The World Mourns Babylon’s Fall

    9 “The kings of the earth who committed fornication and lived luxuriously with her will weep and lament for her, when they see the smoke of her burning, 10 standing at a distance for fear of her torment, saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.’

    11 “And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore: 12 merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; 13 and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men. 14 The fruit that your soul longed for has gone from you, and all the things which are rich and splendid have gone from you,[e] and you shall find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls! 17 For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.’ Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance 18 and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like this great city?’

    19 “They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.’

    20 “Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you holy apostles[f] and prophets, for God has avenged you on her!”
    Finality of Babylon’s Fall

    21 Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, “Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found anymore. 22 The sound of harpists, musicians, flutists, and trumpeters shall not be heard in you anymore. No craftsman of any craft shall be found in you anymore, and the sound of a millstone shall not be heard in you anymore. 23 The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.”

  59. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Zeke: Where did you get that text?

  60. Zeke says:

    These passages are from the book of Revelation. The text describing the mark on the hands or forehead are from chapter 13, and the other is from chapter 18. It was written in the first century.
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2013&version=NKJV

    Apropos of something: The War on Cash

    “The war on cash in Sweden may be stalling. The anti-cash movement has been vigorously promoted by major Swedish commercial banks as well as the Riksbank, the Swedish central bank. In fact, for three of the four major Swedish banks combined, 530 of their 780 office no longer accept or pay out cash. In the case of the Nordea Bank, 200 of its 300 branches are now cashless, and three-quarters of Swedbank’s branches no longer handle cash. As Peter Borsos, a spokesman for Swedbank, freely admits, his bank is working “actively to reduce the [amount] of cash in society.” The reasons for this push toward a cashless society, of course, have nothing to do with pumping up earnings from bank card fees or, more important, freeing fractional-reserve banks from the constraints of bank runs. No, according to Borsos, the reasons are the environment, cost, and security: ”We ourselves emit 700 tons of carbon dioxide by cash transport. It costs society 11 billion per year. And cash helps robberies everywhere.” Hans Jacobson, head of Nordea Bank, argues similarly: “Our mission is to make people understand the point of cards, cards are more secure than cash.” http://mises.org/daily/6370/The-International-War-on-Cash

    More on Dubai.
    Dubai is now a center for most of the banks and insurance companies of the UAE. It was where the UTI met to discuss increased United Nations control over all frequencies, including those for RFID implantable devices, and over the internet. In 1991 it still looked like a parking lot in a desert. If it is not the City in Revelation, it is a type of it and illustrates the concentration of wealth and control over worldwide commerce which is called “Babylon Mother of Harlots.”
    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=dubai&FORM=HDRSC2

  61. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Zeke: It seems from the last things happening that there is a confrontation among, at least, two different groups of the “Illuminati” elite, which would mean that their presumably ET backers are not longer present anymore.

  62. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Zeke: I was referring to this video. This information I feel it true.:

  63. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Zeke: Though, seemingly unbelievable, just check it out with the heart :

  64. Gail Combs says:

    E.M. on Zimmerman. His dad was white and his mom was an African/Cuban cross.
    Calling him a WHITE-Hispanic IMHO was just plain race baiting and it came direct from Obummer. I think his handlers looked at the name and ran with it not knowing they would tic-off the Hispanics. Sending Members of the Justice Department down to Florida to organize protests was a bit far even for this corrupt admin. but he did get re-elected.
    Documents Obtained by Judicial Watch Detail Role of Justice Department in Organizing Trayvon Martin Protests

    I certainly agree it is about time to let ‘Racism’ die. Obama has done more to breath life back into that dead horse that the KKK has done in the last twenty years.
    …………………..

    Zeke,
    One of the reasons (aside from the major cost) that farmers fought NAIS/animal ID was because of “The Mark of the Beast” The World Trade Organization was behind the push for tagging livestock and Bill Clinton (closet Fabian) sent Dan Amstutz as the US Trade advisor. Amstutz is the one who wrote the Agreement on Agriculture that substituted ‘Traceability’ for border control, quarantine and testing. Now we have cattle with TB showing up at slaughter with Mexican ear tags…. The USDA/FDA response is not to prevent further infected cattle from crossing the border but to shut down dairies selling raw milk. GRRRrrrrr. (Again the herd is tested for disease and so is the milk so it is safe. Raw milk has nutrients not found in pasteurized link but that of course is highly debated link and CDC link The history of the raw vs pasteurized milk is just as bad as that of CAGW vs skeptics. http://www.drrons.com/raw-milk-history-health-benefits-distortions-3.htm and http://www.acresusa.com/toolbox/reprints/April04_Schmid.pdf‎

    TB is just one of the diseases now coming into the USA. Mad Cow is another Royal F..k-up that was KNOWINGLY allowed into the USA. (I have all the links some where)

    Hospitals have already done trial runs on implanted RFID chips for patients.

    Using RFID to Track Equipment and Patients – AgileTrac from GE (A list of pdfs)

    NJ hospital implements RFID security system in infant ward
    The Ocean Medical Center (OMC) in Brick, N.J. has recently partnered with RF Technologies to install its Safe Place Infant and Pediatric Security Solution to help protect babies in the infant unit from abduction.

    The system uses RFID technology to track babies wearing transponders throughout the infant ward…..

    Insurers Study Implanting RFID Chips in Patients 2006-07-19
    Hackensack University Medical Center and Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey are recruiting volunteers to have an RFID device implanted under the skin.

    The chips, made by VeriChip Corporation, will contain a 16-digit identifying number that can be used to bring up medical and family contact information stored electronically in a database.

    The chips will be tested in patients with chronic conditions who are more likely to need care in hospital emergency rooms. In the two-year trial, the insurance company will pay about $200 for the chips to be implanted, plus $80 a month for a subscription fee, according to reports in the RFID Journal. Horizon will then assess whether the devices lower health care costs by reducing duplicate lab tests, drug interactions or misdiagnoses. Horizon will invite patients with conditions like diabetes and heart disease to participate and hopes to enroll about 300 volunteers. Though non-implanted devices, like bracelets or dog tags, could also provide the identifying numbers, chip proponents said that the implanted tags are less likely to be removed or damaged and that scanning for implants will take less time than looking for other means of identification. Earlier this year, four hospitals in Puerto Rico announced plans to implant chips in patients with Alzheimers Disease and other memory problems. VeriChip has given several New Jersey hospitals—Beth Israel, Clara Maass, Columbus, Hackensack, Kimball, Newark, Ocean and PBI Regional—equipment to read the chips and access the companys database. Across the country, about 100 hospitals have the appropriate scanning equipment, according to VeriChip. The chip, about the size of a grain of rice, was approved by the FDA as a medical device in 2004…..

    I think this was the real reason that Hillary and Bill Clinton were pushing federalized health care. No RFID tag No Health care. It is just that simple.

  65. Gail Combs says:

    EM you have two of my comments to go fishing for. One is a couple day old in Why Land Air Temperature is Exactly Wrong (I think)

  66. LG says:

    A mechanism for LENR ?

  67. J Martin says:

    Those Mark Hugo videos are fascinating. I hadn’t heard of this guy before but it sounds as if he should be on a team developing a papp engine. It almost sounds as if he is.

    It would be the biggest revolution since the development of the internal combustion engine and the establishment of national electricity grids.

    All that money we are wasting on destroying the planet we live on by building windmills could have given us a working Papp engine by now.

    LG. Those videos have done more to shake my scepticism about cold fusion than anything else.

    Intriguing stuff.

  68. P.G.Sharrow says:

    Archaeology experts say they have made a remarkable discover of what could potentially be the world’s oldest “calendar.”
    http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1112897762/10000-year-old-calendar-discovered-scotland-071513/
    The ancient calendar dates back to around 8,000 BC, predating the first formal time-measuring devices known to man by nearly 5,000 years.
    an early Henge? pg

  69. P.G.Sharrow says:

    latest on Comet ISON:
    ‘In the Northern Hemisphere, it could be visible in the morning near the east-southeast horizon in early December. Later in the month, and into early January, the comet could be visible all night, according to NASA.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/07/18/comet-century-comet-ison-faces-risky-road/?intcmp=trending#ixzz2ZeRSpzIG

    “Sometime this month or perhaps in August, ISON is set to cross what’s called the frost line. At this boundary, which lies some 230 million to 280 million miles from the sun, our star’s radiation will start taking its toll on the comet, driving off more of its water and making ISON appear brighter.”

  70. R. de Haan says:

    Sera says:
    21 July 2013 at 5:37 am
    Interesting China stats…

    http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20130721000023&cid=1103

    I don’t trust any China stats but it could be true if they manage to sell the all real estate that stands empty and without any profits.

    I’m sure this would solve China’s current real estate bubble within a split second.

  71. crosspatch says:

    Friend of mine in Wellington, NZ hammered pretty good by the EQ there last night. Knocked her fridge over, stuff thrown all over, much breakage of things. Then another quake in China has “completely destroyed” the village near the epicenter.

  72. Zeke says:

    More on Obamacare, which includes provisions for Radiofrequency ID implantable devices:

    Potential for Abuse ‘Enormous’ With Massive Obamacare Database

    Those worried about how much data the National Security Agency has collected on them won’t like what’s coming in 2014.

    The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, popularly known as Obamacare, is building a giant database of everyone’s personal information as part of its effort to run the system. The Department of Health and Human Services assures everyone that the Federal Data Services Hub will be secure, but after the IRS and NSA scandals, not everyone is convinced.

    Editor’s Note: Should ObamaCare Be Repealed? Vote in Urgent National Poll

    “The potential for abuse is enormous,” notes Rare.com Deputy Editor James S. Robbins. He says that the massive database will include “income and financial data, family size, citizenship and immigration status, incarceration status, social security numbers, and private health information.”

    It will compile files on everyone in the United States and will get its information from the IRS, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Defense, the Veterans Administration, the Office of Personnel Management, the Social Security Administration, state Medicaid databases, and the Peace Corps.

    While the Daily Mail reports that many fear the hub will be a hacker’s dream, Robbins says hacking isn’t the only threat. Community and consumer-focused nonprofit groups called “Navigators” will have access to the information for the purpose of receiving grants from health exchanges so they can “provide fair and impartial public education” and “refer consumers as appropriate for further assistance,” according to the Government Accountability Office.

    [Non-profits probably refers to NGOs ~Zeke]
    Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Abuse-Massive-Obamacare-Database/2013/07/21/id/516187?s=al&promo_code=143FA-1#ixzz2ZnJtu5bT

  73. Zeke says:

    Have you enrolled in government mandated “health care” yet?

  74. CompuGator says:

    P.G.Sharrow says (20 July 2013 at 7:28 pm):

    Archaeologists Discover World’s Oldest Calendar In Scotland
    July 15, 2013
    Lee Rannals for redOrbit.com

    I would be at last as pleased as anyone herein to be able to honestly credit 5,000 years of priority in invention of a calendar” to what I assume would’ve been a Celtic society.

    But as a result of either overly secretive–or simply incompetent–writing, I’m left without any clue about what form the alleged “calendar” has. “Warren Field stands out as something special”? A “monument created by hunter-gatherers”? From the photo, all I see are stains of darker dirt on top of lighter dirt. B.F.D.

  75. p.g.sharrow says:

    @Zeke;Zeke says:
    22 July 2013 at 5:03 pm maybe you will like this !

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/americas-true-hero-dies-in-obscurity/

    More on the :Obamanation” pg

  76. p.g.sharrow says:

    CompuGator says:
    23 July 2013 at 1:05 am ” From the photo, all I see are stains of darker dirt on top of lighter dirt. B.F.D.”

    I can see you are not an Archaeologist. That is Ok, ;-)

    I built my first computer circuits in the 1950s out of toggle switches, flashlight bulbs and telephone wire. Nothing in common with solid state ICs of today. Still, they were digital gates. pg

  77. CompuGator says:

    p.g.sharrow says (23 July 2013 at 3:32 pm):

    I built my first computer circuits in the 1950s out of toggle switches, flashlight bulbs and telephone wire. [….] Still, they were digital gates.

    Would that be “digital” in the sense that an on/off toggle switch to a lightbulb is typically a discrete device: Either all on or all off? Or were there some vacuum-tube diodes (i.e.: ‘electron valves’ in U.K.) in there somewhere?

    I thought there might be an electronics-marketing anecdote to be found around here somewhere, but all I could find (without devoting my evening to it) was this odd combination:
    p.g.sharrow (13 July 2012 at 4:51 am)

    [[Re:] Carping Comment on Farming
    [….] I have spent much of my life in the field of animal husbandry. I also have a great deal of experience in the creation of high energy EMF fields [….]

  78. p.g.sharrow says:

    @CompuGator;
    Logic gates, And – Or – Invert – Nor, etc, See:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate

    1s and 0s, On or off, switches wired to create output, lights on or off.
    Primitive computer.
    Early 1950s science fair projects, ;-) pg

  79. Jason Calley says:

    @ p.g.sharrow Just a bit of trivia here about logic gates. The first US patent on a logic gate was for an “AND” gate. It was developed during the 1890s and the patent was granted to a certain Mr. N. Tesla in 1902.

  80. Gail Combs says:

    Zeke says:
    22 July 2013 at 5:03 pm

    More on Obamacare, which includes provisions for Radiofrequency ID implantable devices………..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I put up a long comment on that but it is still in moderation. I saw that coming a decade or so ago when they were pushing Animal ID and RFID drivers licenses. They are also data banking the DNA from babies both here in the USA and in the UK.

  81. j ferguson says:

    Wow, Gail, DNA libraries of everyone?

    I suppose this will make us all feel safer.

    There’s a lot to be said for timing in life. I am very happy to be 70 and maybe not have to live through where this seems to be headed.

    Jefferson was right, a little insurrection every once in a while may really be necessary.

    As an aside, after enjoying the ministrations of an unusually adept pick-pocket in Brussels, we found ourselves having to prove who we were to someone at our credit-card service. the questions included what cars we owned in 1990, where we lived in 1986, what the phone number there was, and some things about our parents. They had the right answers, too.

    We were assured this was all publicly available. Think what the guvmint must know about us. Hopefully they continue to be enough screwed up organizationally to do much with it. Be glad that the government is so frequently inept. imagine what it would be like if they were efficient and effective. Remember Petrossa’s remarks about how good they were at minding your store in the awash countries.

  82. Verity Jones says:

    @Another Ian
    thanks for the promotion and the compliment.

    EM
    I think we all hope your silence is for positive reasons. Just dropped by to share a link. I was a case of “I saw this and thought of you”
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2377915/A-moon-DOES-affect-sleep–inner-caveman.html

  83. Gail Combs says:

    j ferguson says:
    25 July 2013 at 7:54 pm

    Wow, Gail, DNA libraries of everyone?

    I suppose this will make us all feel safer.

    There’s a lot to be said for timing in life. I am very happy to be 70 and maybe not have to live through where this seems to be headed…..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    My thoughts exactly. I am glad I was too old to have kids when I got married the second time. I would hate the thought of having my kids and grandkids ‘slaves’ of the Globalist estate.
    (aka Agenda 21, Sustainability, Smart Growth, Transit Villages, Foodshed – see Cornell Univ…. I have lots of links showing the intent to push Americans into little 14ft X 14ft micro-mini apartments because “Apartments are more eco-friendly” )

    The DNA goes back to the Fabian Eugenics movement and there plans to build a ‘Superior Human’
    Why is Royal Society hosting pro-eugenics conference? ( Friday, 01 October 2004 15:17)

    and the Co-Author of Ecoscience, Holdern being awarded the position of Obama’s Science Czar, do not give me the warm fussies.

    Page 942-3: Toward a Planetary Regime

    Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime—sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. Thus the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market.

    The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.

    Page 837: “Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.”

    Page 786: One way to carry out this disapproval might be to insist that all illegitimate babies be put up for adoption—especially those born to minors, who generally are not capable of caring properly for a child alone. If a single mother really wished to keep her baby, she might be obliged to go through adoption proceedings and demonstrate her ability to support and care for it. Adoption proceedings probably should remain more difficult for single people than for married couples, in recognition of the relative difficulty of raising children alone. It would even be possible to require pregnant single women to marry or have abortions, perhaps as an alternative to placement for adoption, depending on the society.

    Page 787-8: Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today, nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock.

    This has already been developed by through funding by the USDA.
    ‘We have a hothouse filled with corn plants that make anti-sperm antibodies,’ said Epicyte president Mitch Hein in a 2001 press conference.

    “If the men eat the epicyte gene they produce antibodies to
    their own sperm, rendering them irreversibly sterile.”

    “Essentially, the antibodies are attracted to surface receptors on the sperm,” said Hein. “They latch on and make each sperm so heavy it cannot move forward. It just shakes about as if it was doing the lambada.” Hein claimed it was a possible solution to world “over-population.”

    Shortly after the 2001 Epicyte press release, all discussion of the breakthrough vanished. The company itself was taken over in 2004 by Biolex and nothing more was heard in any media about the development of spermicidal corn…. .exohuman.com {Genocidal Cereal Killer Released}
    See: zombietime “John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet” for more quotes.

    I did not include links because EM seems MIA. I am starting to get a bit worried about him.

  84. Gail Combs says:

    j ferguson says: @ 25 July 2013 at 7:54 pm

    …Be glad that the government is so frequently inept. imagine what it would be like if they were efficient and effective.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Be glad governments are not all run by Germans….

  85. CompuGator says:

    A month or so ago, Chiefio claimed (in the midst of some topic) that His Gallopingness had his (cell) phone number, usable for arranging a social meeting while the latter was teaching a relatively conveniently located summer class or short-course at UCF[*]. Perhaps he is waiting on some compelling resolution (e.g.: not (hypothetically) merely unreturned voice-mail messages)?

    Note *: Univ. of Central Florida: One of the “compass-school” state universities, est. ca. 1963 in N.E. Orange County. From what he’s written, Chiefio seems to be working & living in Osceola County: the adjoining county to the south.

  86. gallopingcamel says:

    @CompuGator,
    I live in Brevard county to the right of Orange county where the main UCF campus is located. Such a huge university has satellites all around including ones in Brevard, Volusia, Seminole and Osceola counties.

    Chiefio did give me a phone number that I assumed was his cell phone. I called it earlier today and got a recording saying that the number was not reachable. The area code was 408 corresponding to San Jose, California,

    As Chiefio has his family with him I am not too concerned for his personal safety but like many here I suspect he is indisposed to the point that he cannot maintain this blog.

  87. gallopingcamel says:

    @Gail Combs,
    “…Be glad that the government is so frequently inept. imagine what it would be like if they were efficient and effective.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Be glad governments are not all run by Germans….”

    That is essentially why I am not persuaded by conspiracy theorists. If governments were uniformly smart we would all be enslaved by now.

    The behavior of ruling elites can be understood by realizing that those in control work to increase their power and wealth. “Why Nations Fail” by Acemoglu and Robinson explains this quite persuasively.

  88. LG says:

    A paper on a 18.6-year nodal tidal cycle
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/joc.3787/abstract;jsessionid=51B1185A3005587833904CF663A2F641.d03t02

    From the ABSTRACT
    This work shows statistical evidence for lunar nodal cycle influence on the low-frequency summer rainfall variability over the plains to the east of subtropical Andes, in South America, through long-term sea surface temperature (SST) variations induced by the nodal amplitude of diurnal tides over southwestern South Atlantic (SWSA)

    Another paper on solar-lunar forcing:
    http://jsedres.sepmonline.org/content/82/12/991.short

    From the ABSTRACT:
    The periodicities recognized in our study resemble the ones associated to the QuasiBiennial Oscillation, the El Nino Southern Oscillation, the sunspot number solar cycle and, interestingly, the 9 year periodicity related to a lunisolar tidal cycle. All of these represent the main climate forcing mechanisms that regulated temperature and precipitation in the Mediterranean in the past 500 years

  89. Zeke says:

    @Gail, I will look forward to seeing your post on RFIDs. It should have been a privately used technology to help find lost animals or abducted persons.

    The list of agencies which are being used for the database for Obamacare is very long. The concern over the NSA data gathering, if not transferred over to Obamacare, is obviously nothing but a false froth whipped up for political cover. “Under ObamaCare, a new government entity called the Federal Data Services Hub will share and transmit extremely personal information between the following:
    Internal Revenue Service,
    Health and Human Services,
    the Department of Justice,
    Homeland Security,
    Veterans Affairs,
    Department of Defense,
    the Social Security Administration,
    state governments,
    Medicaid offices,
    as well as the state and federal insurance exchanges.”

    The “navigators” access this information. Obamacare, once again to repeat, includes provisions for the use of a chip, or RFID, which is an implantable device “for medical purposes,” and has been ruled constitutional by the Supreme Court. This indicates that time is getting short. Very difficult decisions are ahead of all of us.

  90. CompuGator says:

    gallopingcamel says (27 July 2013 at 5:24 am):

    As Chiefio has his family with him [….]

    Huh? If he does, then I suppose you should be considered a privileged recipient of information that I believe would be major (personal) news to the rest of Chiefio’s readers.

    I thought he’d made it clear at the outset that his wife would be holding down the family fort in Silicon Valley, until he felt settled in enough here in Florida to have her join him. In the meantime, if he didn’t actually write it, I assumed that she would be focused on arranging the transcontinental move of household goods.

    In the initial episodes of his transcontinental drive, everything about it indicated that it was a solo trip, and nothing indicated that he had company, e.g.: no mention of switching off the driving duties. Upon his arrival, he mentioned that temporary lodging that’s adequate by his criteria would not meet his wife’s criteria–the latter verb-tense referring to a time in the future when she would arrive from California.

    Perhaps some snags have suddenly developed with moving the household goods. I imagine that his workshop is stuffed from its floor up into its rafters, so I can’t rule out the possibility of some accidental injury occurring to a family member during packing. Maybe even severe enough for him to make an inconvenient round-trip back to the Valley, to take charge. In which case, I’d certainly wish them a rapid & complete resolution or recovery.

  91. Verity Jones says:

    He wrote on one post that his spouse was coming for a holiday, but didn’t indicate any time frame. While it’s unusual to hear nothing from him for so long, the blog is probably low on his list of priorities at the moment.

  92. Zeke says:

    ” “The rules allow navigators to come from the ranks of unions, health providers and community action groups such as ACORN and Planned Parenthood,” reported the Examiner.”

  93. @Compugator,
    I don’t have any privileged information. I just picked up on that posting that Verity refers to above.

    I was planning to invite him for dinner at Grandma’s Kitchen on Thursday August 1, but then I found that the cell phone number I have for Chiefio no longer works. I will try email although it hasd not worked well in the past.

  94. Gail Combs says:

    gallopingcamel says:
    27 July 2013 at 1:25 pm
    …..That is essentially why I am not persuaded by conspiracy theorists. If governments were uniformly smart we would all be enslaved by now…..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is also what gives me hope. ‘Be glad you don’t get all the government you pay for.’

    It does not mean there are not a bunch of very wealthy meglomaniacs out there willing to give it a try. I have met some of them while living in Westchester county NY (near the Rockefellers)
    thirdworldtraveler.com has excerpts from “Tragedy and Hope A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley, 1966” Quigley was Clinton’s mentor/professor.

    There is also From Carroll Quigley to the UN Millennium Summit @ lewrockwell.com

    There are certainly lots of clues that the elite have plans. On the other hand there is the problem of ‘Honor among Thieves’ which is generally non-existent.

    The biggest problem that I see is the attempts at manipulation, such as Clinton and the mortgage/foreclosure set-up, Clinton handing the Chinese US military secrets and other boneheaded moves like regulating anything that moves that are designed to cripple the USA and then instead of a world government we get WWIII since the USA is intentionally leaving the Mexican border wide open.

  95. Gail Combs,
    The tenth amendment to the US constitution says:
    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    This amendment embodies the concept of “Pluralism” with power distributed among the many. Today we see the “Commerce” and “General Welfare” clauses trumping the tenth amendment.

    The result is a relentless concentration of power into the hands of ruling elites. Who would have thought that the USA could become an oligarchy?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy

  96. Gail Combs says:

    Zeke, I am reposting my RFID comment but took out the first part of the url tag in the links and added ( ). Hope that fools wordpress.

    One of the reasons (aside from the major cost) that farmers fought NAIS/animal ID was because of “The Mark of the Beast” The World Trade Organization was behind the push for tagging livestock and Bill Clinton (closet Fabian) sent Dan Amstutz as the US Trade advisor. Amstutz is the one who wrote the Agreement on Agriculture that substituted ‘Traceability’ for border control, quarantine and testing. Now we have cattle with TB showing up at slaughter with Mexican ear tags…. The USDA/FDA response is not to prevent further infected cattle from crossing the border but to shut down dairies selling raw milk. GRRRrrrrr. (Again the herd is closed, tested for disease and so is the milk so it is safe.)

    Raw milk has nutrients not found in pasteurized link (nourishedkitchen.com/10-reasons-drink-raw-milk/ ) but that of course is highly debated link (nourishedkitchen.com/10-reasons-drink-raw-milk/ )and CDC link (www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/rawmilk/raw-milk-questions-and-answers.html ) The history of the raw vs pasteurized milk is just as bad as that of CAGW vs skeptics. (www.drrons.com/raw-milk-history-health-benefits-distortions-3.htm ) and (www.acresusa.com/toolbox/reprints/April04_Schmid.pdf‎ )

    TB is just one of the diseases now coming into the USA. Mad Cow is another Royal F..k-up that was KNOWINGLY allowed into the USA. (I have all the links some where)

    Hospitals have already done trial runs on implanted RFID chips for patients.

    Using RFID to Track Equipment and Patients – AgileTrac from GE (A list of pdfs)
    (www3.gehealthcare.com/search?q=rfid%20&u=http://www3.gehealthcare.com/en/Services/Hospital_Operations_Management )

    NJ hospital implements RFID security system in infant ward
    (secureidnews.com/news-item/nj-hospital-implements-rfid-security-system-in-infant-ward/.)

    The Ocean Medical Center (OMC) in Brick, N.J. has recently partnered with RF Technologies to install its Safe Place Infant and Pediatric Security Solution to help protect babies in the infant unit from abduction.

    The system uses RFID technology to track babies wearing transponders throughout the infant ward…..

    Insurers Study Implanting RFID Chips in Patients 2006-07-19
    (www.eweek.com/c/a/Health-Care-IT/Insurers-Study-Implanting-RFID-Chips-in-Patients/ )

    Hackensack University Medical Center and Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey are recruiting volunteers to have an RFID device implanted under the skin.

    The chips, made by VeriChip Corporation, will contain a 16-digit identifying number that can be used to bring up medical and family contact information stored electronically in a database.

    The chips will be tested in patients with chronic conditions who are more likely to need care in hospital emergency rooms. In the two-year trial, the insurance company will pay about $200 for the chips to be implanted, plus $80 a month for a subscription fee, according to reports in the RFID Journal. Horizon will then assess whether the devices lower health care costs by reducing duplicate lab tests, drug interactions or misdiagnoses. Horizon will invite patients with conditions like diabetes and heart disease to participate and hopes to enroll about 300 volunteers. Though non-implanted devices, like bracelets or dog tags, could also provide the identifying numbers, chip proponents said that the implanted tags are less likely to be removed or damaged and that scanning for implants will take less time than looking for other means of identification. Earlier this year, four hospitals in Puerto Rico announced plans to implant chips in patients with Alzheimers Disease and other memory problems. VeriChip has given several New Jersey hospitals—Beth Israel, Clara Maass, Columbus, Hackensack, Kimball, Newark, Ocean and PBI Regional—equipment to read the chips and access the companys database. Across the country, about 100 hospitals have the appropriate scanning equipment, according to VeriChip. The chip, about the size of a grain of rice, was approved by the FDA as a medical device in 2004…..

    I think this was the real reason that Hillary and Bill Clinton were pushing federalized health care. No RFID tag No Health care. It is just that simple.

  97. Gail Combs says:

    gallopingcamel says:
    28 July 2013 at 6:12 am

    The tenth amendment to the US constitution says:
    “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”….

    The result is a relentless concentration of power into the hands of ruling elites….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    There are a couple of other parts to the transfer of power from the people and states to the federal government.

    (1) The change from the Senate representing the STATES point of view with the two senators picked by the state legislators to the Senate being a clone of the House and therefore subject to the same MSM that is owned by the banksters.

    (2) Taxes collected from the citizens of the state and then handed back to the state with lots of strings attached. ie if you do not lower speed limits to 55 you get no Federal highway money….

    (3) The granting of legislative power to the executive branch. This includes not only bureaucrats like the EPA and FDA making ‘Regulations’ with the same clout as a Congressional law but Executive Orders. (The Supreme Court ruled this was OK if there was a Federal Register where citizens could comment on the regulations. Ever seen anything about that RIGHT in any high school class??? Also did the over 5000 He!! NO’s! and very few YES! stop the bureaucrats from giving us Animal ID???)

    (3) The trashing of the US jury system and the removal of the citizens RIGHT to judge both the accused AND THE LAW. This right is critical because it allows citizens the final say on laws and regulations. Therefore it was absolutely necessary for the ruling class to demolish this right. They did so by:
    (3a) First making sure jurors are not informed of their rights and duties as jurors. (see Fully Informed Jury Movement)
    (3b) Second by giving bureaucratic departments a ‘within house Judicial Tribunal’ that replaces the trial by jury, as well as complex ‘regulations’ no one can understand. In this way the Supreme Court intentionally trashed the Constitution and Amendment VII.

    “In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved….” ~ Amendment VII

    Pretty darn clear isn’t it? But the Supreme Court didn’t think so.

    Right to Jury in Civil Cases
    (www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/amendments/7/essays/159/right-to-jury-in-civil-cases )

    Toward the end of the Constitutional Convention, Hugh Williamson of North Carolina noted that “no provision was yet made for juries in civil cases and suggested the necessity of it.”

    ….The Seventh Amendment, passed by the First Congress without debate, cured the omission by declaring that the right to a jury trial shall be preserved in common-law cases, thus leaving the traditional distinction between cases at law and those in equity or admiralty, where there normally was no jury. The implied distinction parallels the explicit division of federal judicial authority in Article III to cases (1) in law, (2) in equity, and (3) in admiralty and maritime jurisdiction. The contemporaneously passed Judiciary Act of 1789 similarly provided that “the trial of issues of fact, in the district courts, in all causes except civil causes of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction, shall be by jury.” As Justice Joseph Story later explained in Parsons v. Bedford (1830): “In a just sense, the amendment then may well be construed to embrace all suits which are not of equity and admiralty jurisdiction, whatever may be the peculiar form which they may assume to settle legal rights.”

    The Supreme Court has, however, arrived at a more limited interpretation. It applies the amendment’s guarantee to the kinds of cases that “existed under the English common law when the amendment was adopted,” Baltimore & Carolina Line v. Redman (1935), or to newly developed rights that can be analogized to what existed at that time, Luria v. United States (1913), Curtis v. Loether (1974). Accordingly, in a series of decisions in the second half of the twentieth century, the Supreme Court ruled that the Seventh Amendment guarantees the right to trial by jury in procedurally novel settings, like declaratory judgment actions, Beacon Theatres v. Westover (1959), and shareholder derivative suits, Ross v. Bernhard (1970). The Court also applied the amendment to cases adjudicating newly created statutory rights, Curtis v. Loether, Pernell v. Southall Realty (1974). In addition, the Supreme Court has ruled unanimously that when factually overlapping “legal” and “equitable” claims are joined together in the same action, the Seventh Amendment requires that the former be adjudicated first (by a jury); and that when legal claims triable to a jury are erroneously dismissed, relitigation of the entire action is “essential to vindicating [the plaintiff’s] Seventh Amendment rights.” Lytle v. Household Manufacturing, Inc. (1990).

    The right to trial by jury is not constitutionally guaranteed in certain classes of civil cases that are concededly “suits at common law,” particularly when “public” or governmental rights are at issue and if one cannot find eighteenth-century precedent for jury participation in those cases. Atlas Roofing Co. v. Occupational Safety & Health Review Commission (1977). Thus, Congress can lodge personal and property claims against the United States in non-Article III courts with no jury component. In addition, where practice as it existed in 1791 “provides no clear answer,” the rule is that “[o]nly those incidents which are regarded as fundamental, as inherent in and of the essence of the system of trial by jury, are placed beyond the reach of the legislature.” Markman v. Westview Instruments (1996). In those situations, too, the Seventh Amendment does not restrain congressional choice….

    So there went our last constraint on the Federal government. Without a trial by jury we lost our RIGHT to overrule idiotic laws and regulations.

  98. Gail Combs says:

    Zeke says:
    @Gail, I will look forward to seeing your post on RFIDs. It should have been a privately used technology to help find lost animals or abducted persons….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Zeke, some where, I think on NoNAIS, Mary Zenoni (lawyer) did a legal challenge on the data gathered by the government via ‘Premise ID’ (part of Animal ID) It was found the data was stored on computers in Canada so could not be accessed via FOIA! The reason for the challenge was because states were signing people up for premise ID without their knowledge or consent. Heck Four H leaders even had little kids signing up their parents farms !!!

    The premise ID is really bad news. This Article by Derry Brownfield was written several years ago when ‘premise ID’ and NAIS was ‘VOLUNTARY’. At that time he Federal Register clearly defined that “It is important to note that participation in the NAIS is voluntary.”

    I am using some of the introductory parts of Derry Brownfield’s article since they give the big picture of why the US government enacted farm regulations (Food Safety Modernization Act) that are impossible to adhere to and without the right to a jury trial.

    The original house bill HR875 calls for the creation of a Food Safety Administration allowing the government to regulate food production at all levels – and even mandates property seizure, fines of up to $1 million per offense and criminal prosecution [up to ten years in jail] for producers, manufacturers and distributors who fail to comply with regulations. To get the bill to pass this part along with the Commerce Clause were left out… for now. All it takes is a small amendment on another bill to put these parts right back in. That is what was done with the Animal Rights Welfare Act. The elite never give-up. They ‘Compromise’ while attention is focused to get a skeleton bill passed and later add back all the controversial parts when the spotlight is gone.

    Now the government is trying to get gardeners to ‘register their gardens’ (www.alt-market.com/articles/891-utah-garden-challenge-actually-government-registration-in-disguise )

    This from a lawyer on the ramifications of the Commerce Clause in the Food Safety Modernization Act.

    Section 406 of the bill [HR875] reads as follows: “PRESUMPTION. In any action to enforce the requirements of the food safety law, the connection with interstate commerce required for jurisdiction shall be presumed to exist.”

    …Ignorance about the law’s broad reach (and how it will be construed by the courts) has thwarted opposition to the bill, which will likely pass Congress. For example, a newspaper claims the bill “doesn’t regulate home gardens.” …

    But lawyers familiar with our capricious legal system know better. The Supreme Court ruled in Wickard v. Filburn (1942) that even home gardens (in that case, a farmer’s growing wheat for his own consumption) are subject to federal laws that regulate interstate commerce. Economists and scholars have criticized this decision, but it continues to be cited and followed in Supreme Court rulings, such as those applying federal anti-drug laws to consumption of even home-grown medical marijuana. Indeed, many court decisions allow Congress to define as “interstate commerce” even non-commercial conduct that doesn’t cross state lines …
    Trojan Horse Law: The Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009
    (www.examiner.com/article/trojan-horse-law-the-food-safety-modernization-act-of-2009 )

    With that as background here is Derry Brownfield’s article

    OUR LAND – COLLATERAL FOR THE NATIONAL DEBT
    (www.newswithviews.com/brownfield/brownfield59.htm )
    I consider Wayne Hage one of the most intelligent men I ever met. On our very first visit he was explaining the World Bank, the International Monetary fund and how the world bankers planned on collateralizing the world debt with land. Not just the U.S. national debt, but the “WORLD” debt. A listener sent me a copy of a report of the FOURTH WORLD WILDERNESS CONGRESS, which was held in Denver in 1987. Over 1500 people from sixty countries were told that wilderness lands were to protect the reindeer, the spotted owl and other endangered species. Ninety percent of the group consisted of conservationists, ecologists, government and United Nations bureaucrats. The other ten percent were world banking heavyweights, such as David Rockefeller of Chase Manhattan Bank, London banker Edmund de Rothschild and the Secretary of the U.S. Treasury, James Baker, who gave the keynote address. George W. Hunt, an investment councilor, served as official host and sat in on all the meetings. It was George Hunt that wrote the report from which I have gleaned much of my information…

    During the first three days, the group was told that the WILDERNESS CONGRESS was about beating the ozone deterioration and bringing the rain forests back. The following days were closed to the public. With only the bankers in attendance the topics discussed centered around the creation of a “WORLD CONSERVATION BANK” with collateral being derived from receipt of wilderness properties throughout the world. This bank would have central bank powers similar to the Federal Reserve. It would create currency and loans and engage in international discounting, counter-trade, barter and swap actions. Rothschild personally conducted the monetary matters and the creation of this WORLD CONSERVATION BANK. This bank would refinance by swapping debt for assets….
    George Hunt wrote: “Title to the lands will go to the World Wilderness Land Inventory Trust. This Trust will float into the World Conservation Bank by the unanimous decree of the world’s people, saying, God bless you for saving our reindeer…..

    Hunt goes on to say that World Bank loans, as they stand now, are not collateralized. They’re saying, we want collateral, so when we loan-swap this debt, we’re going to own the Amazon if you default. They’re going to make their bad loans good by collateralizing them after the fact with all of this land and somebody is going to end up with title to twelve and half billion acres. They have multi-trillions of dollars upon which they can create currencies and loans and they’re going to begin to barter and counter-trade and loan-swap against the United States. The World Conservation Bank is a scheme to monetize land….

    >>> The United Nations World Commission on Environment and Development was created in 1982. The commission published the “BRUNDTLAND REPORT” setting the stage for unlimited enactments to take over ecology, and environmental and pollution laws throughout the world. The report stated: “We will have a proposal for very harsh, quasi-spiritual ecological laws for MOTHER EARTH. A MOTHER EARTH COMES FIRST mentality will arise throughout the world.” <<<< [GEE, Doesn't That sound familiar?]

    When James Baker made his keynote speech in 1987, he stated that, “No longer will the World Bank carry this debt unsecured. The only assets we have to collateralize are federal lands and national parks.” Baker’s definition of federal lands includes Heritage sites, of which there are about 20 in the United States. I say “about” 20, because they are being added on a regular basis. As I write this article Congress is about to vote on a proposed Rim of the Valley National Park that would include over 500,000 acres of National Forest land and 170,000 parcels of private property including many farms and ranches. At the same time there is a bill before Congress called the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act that would increase the acreage of designated wilderness by 50% in the lower 48 states. *** While our Heritage sites take in quite a large amount of territory, such as Yellowstone National Park and Mesa Verde, the Grand Canyon and the Everglades, other countries have much greater areas. Brazil for example has the Amazon Conservation Complex and Canada has the Canadian Rocky Mountain Parks. As I write this story the list includes 851 properties in 141 countries, comprising over one third of the earth’s land mass. Will all this land collateralize the world’s debt? Probably not, so along comes NAIS (the National Animal Identification System)…..

    ….Note the wording used in the NAIS documents about registering your premises. They put many of us on guard against NAIS. So the government data mined and signed up many farmers without their knowledge or permission and now refuses to delete them.

    Words have meaning and contracts use certain words to avoid confusion. The USDA wants you to register your premises because you have livestock (even one).You effectively become a sharecropper, with a clouded title to property. Substituting “premises” for “property” effectively renders property rights null and void. This use of a term (and its meaning, which is often not publicized) is no accident. Property is by far the most powerful legal term, but you can lose your property rights — your ability to admit or deny access, utilize your property, sell or mortgage it, etc., if you do not know the three meanings and the context in which they are employed. Calling the owner a stakeholder and the property a premises, leaves a gray area in property rights.
     
    According to the US Department of Agriculture, “The first step in implementing a national animal identification system (NAIS) is identifying and registering premises that are associated with the animal agriculture industry. In terms of the NAIS, a premise is any geographically unique location in which agricultural animals are raised, held, or boarded. Under this definition, farms, ranches, feed-yards, auction barns and livestock exhibitions and fair sites are all examples of premises.” That may be the definition some government bureaucrat will give you, but the word “premises” under the “international Criminal Court Act 2002- Sect 4, states: The word “premises” includes a place and a “conveyance.” Why check with the International Criminal Court Act? Because on June 8, 2007 under Secy. of Ag. Bruce Knight, speaking at the World Pork Expo in Des Moines, is quoted as saying, “We have to live by the same international rules we’re expecting other people to do.”

     Stakeholder…..Stakeholders are NOT the owners of the property, legally they are those who hold the property until the owner is determined. The USDA is in effect “branding” or “marking” its property with its number beginning in 840 (the international code designating financial instruments belonging to the USA)
    Property – a.Something that is owned or possessed. Property may be real (land), personal, tangible (touchable), or intangible (such as the interest in a play or other creative work). – U.S. Treasury OTS (Office of Thrift Supervision, in charge of banks, savings and loan associations, etc.) b. the exclusive right to possess, enjoy, and dispose of a thing: ownership c. something to which a person has legal title
    Land – Real property or any interest therein.
    Premise is a synonym for the word tenement. A definition of the word tenement in law is: Property, such as land, held by one person “leasing” it to another. Webster’s New World Dictionary 1960 College Edition defines “Premises” as the part of a deed or “lease” that states its reason, the parties involved and the property in “conveyance.” Webster then defines “conveyance” as the transfer of ownership of real property from one person to another. It is quite obvious that the bureaucrats in Washington had a very good reason to use the term “premises” and never mention “PROPERTY.”

    Derry Brownfield tangled with the big boys and got kicked off his radio program by his ex-partner. See: Derry Brownfield was a veteran of farm radio reports, until he went after Big Ag
    (www.alternet.org/story/84477/farm_radio_broadcaster_gets_the_boot_after_exposing_monsanto’s_’goon_squads’ )
    And Wayne Hage and the rout of property rights: An American tragedy
    (watchdog.org/56194/nv-wayne-hage-and-the-rout-of-property-rights-an-american-tragedy/ )

    May both these fighters for our rights rest in peace.

    And a bit more on Premise ID:
    October 21, 2009: Wisconsin Circuit Court, Polk County, Judge Molly E Galewyrick found the Monchilovich couple guilty of failure to register premises.
    See: State of Wisconsin vs. Pat and Melissa Monchilovich ( PPJ Gazette)
    (ppjg.me/2010/05/20/state-of-wisconsin-vs-pat-and-melissa-monchilovich/ )

    See: “A Legal View of NAIS ”
    Roger McEowen, Leonard Dolezal Professor in Agricultural Law
    (www.ranchers.net/forum/about24154.html )

  99. Gail Combs says:

    Oh, here is another goodie:
    RECOVERY ACT
    Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to
    Work in the United States Were Paid
    $4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits
    (www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2011reports/201141061fr.pdf )

    …Many individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States, and thus not eligible to obtain a Social Security Number (SSN) for employment, earn income in the United States. The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) provides such individuals with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) to facilitate their filing of tax returns. Although the law prohibits aliens residing without authorization in the United States from receiving most Federal public benefits, an increasing number of these individuals are filing tax returns claiming the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC), a refundable tax credit intended for working families. …

    Everyone who is employed in the United States (U.S.) is required to have a Social Security Number (SSN)….

    Many individuals who are not eligible to obtain an SSN earn income in the United States. This presents a problem for tax administration because the Internal Revenue Code requires foreign investors and individuals working without authorization in the United States to file tax returns and pay any Federal income taxes owed. As explained by a former Internal Revenue Service (IRS) Commissioner, “the IRS’s job is to make sure that everyone who earns income within our borders pays the proper amount of taxes, even if they may not be working here legally.” Individual Taxpayer Identification Number An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is available to individuals who are required to have a taxpayer identification number for tax purposes, but do not have and are not eligible to obtain an SSN because they are not authorized to work in the United States. An ITIN is issued by the IRS and looks very similar to an SSN in that it is a nine-digit number. ITINs are issued regardless of immigration status, because both resident and nonresident aliens may have a U.S. filing or reporting requirement under the Internal Revenue Code. ITINs are for Federal tax reporting only and are not intended to serve any other purpose. Even income obtained illegally is subject to income taxes. Therefore, the IRS issues ITINs to help individuals comply with the U.S. tax laws and to provide a means to process and account for tax returns and payments for those not eligible for SSNs.

    So from the point of view of the Federal government TAXES are much more important than protecting our borders or our jobs.

    And another one: When can the US military act within the USA? Originally Posse Comitatus Act, a longstanding federal statute restricted the government’s ability to use the U.S. military as a police force. One federal court explained: “Military personnel must be trained to operate under circumstances where the protection of constitutional freedoms cannot receive the consideration needed in order to assure their preservation. The Posse Comitatus statute is intended to meet that danger.” however the Republicans under Bush decided to do away with that protection (www.cato.org/publications/commentary/what-posse-comitatus )

    This isn’t even a law passed by Congress but a ‘Regulation’ placed in the Federal Register!

    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
    (www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-04-12/html/2013-07802.htm)

    Office of the Secretary

    [DOD-2009-OS-0038; RIN 0790-AI54]

    32 CFR Part 182

    Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies

    AGENCY: Department of Defense.

    ACTION: Final rule.

    ———————————————————————–

    SUMMARY: This rule implements DoD regulations and legislation concerning restriction on direct participation by DoD personnel. It provides specific policy direction and assigns responsibilities with respect to DoD support provided to Federal, State, and local civilian
    law enforcement agencies, including responses to civil disturbances.

    DATES: This rule is effective May 13, 2013.

    …..Federal military commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances because:

    (1) Such activities are necessary to prevent significant loss of life or wanton destruction of property and are necessary to restore governmental function and public order; or

    (2) Duly constituted Federal, State, or local authorities are unable or decline to provide adequate protection for Federal property or Federal governmental functions.”

    ….The
    laws that permit direct DoD participation in civilian law enforcement
    include:
    (1) Protection of national parks and certain other Federal lands consistent with 16 U.S.C. 23, 78, and 593.
    (2) Enforcement of the Fishery Conservation and Management Act of 1976, as amended, pursuant to 16 U.S.C. 1861(a).
    (3) Assistance in the case of crimes against foreign officials, official guests of the United States, and other internationally protected persons pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 112 and 1116.
    (4) Assistance in the case of crimes against Members of Congress, Members-of-Congress-elect, Justices of the Supreme Court and nominees, and certain senior Executive Branch officials and nominees in accordance with 18 U.S.C. 351.
    (5) Assistance in the case of crimes involving nuclear materials in accordance with 18 U.S.C. 831.
    (6) Protection of the President, Vice President, and other designated dignitaries in accordance with 18 U.S.C. 1751 and Public Law 94-524.
    (7) Actions taken in support of the neutrality laws in accordance with 22 U.S.C. 408 and 461-462.
    (8) Removal of persons unlawfully present on Indian lands in accordance with 25 U.S.C. 180.
    (9) Execution of quarantine and certain health laws in accordance with 42 U.S.C. 97 and DoD Instruction…. [There is a lot more]

    “…Execution of quarantine and certain health laws…” If you are wondering what that is all about I suggest reading about the Plum Island lab relocation, FMD and the Crimson Sky Scenario (butnerblogspot.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/nbaf-fmd-and-the-crimson-sky-scenario/ ) and ‘What is DEPOPULATION?’ (arkansasanimalproducers.8k.com/about_10.html )

    Can You say SETUP?

    Then add in ‘The EU’s Fast-Approaching Food Tyranny…EU Undertakes To “Radically Transform” People’s Dietary Habits!’ (notrickszone.com/2013/07/11/the-eus-fast-approaching-food-tyranny-eu-undertakes-to-dictate-human-food-diets/ )

  100. adolfogiurfa says:

    @All: Does any one know about our friend E.M. ? Hope he is OK.

  101. j ferguson says:

    Gail,
    10 years ago, when I had retired and we were selling our condominium and moving onto the boat, we thought it might be useful to take the H&R Block tax course that we might pick up some spare cash here and there. Were we shocked. We had both thought we were sharp on the tax code in general, certainly what income was and wasn’t taxable and deductions. Little did we know of the complexities at the lower range of income (they weren’t there when we were in those brackets). It turned out that it is a real challenge to determine the filing status of folks who are lower income, have an aunt living with them and a daughter living with another relative. We found the variety of situations contemplated by the code at the bottom brackets astonishing.

    And BTW, we thought the H&R Block course we took in Miami was excellent. Their preparers are required to take the course annually. We were really impressed with how knowlegable a lot of them were.

    We never did work for H&R Block despite doing well in their course. We discovered that the people who made real money doing this built up a customer base in a particular location over several years – people who requested their services specifically. Otherwise the walk-ins are cycled around the preparers which only produces minimum wage when the heat is on, people wanting to get their refunds for a few weeks at the beginning of the year.

  102. sabretoothed says:

    Looks like the scientific creation myth is exposed universe is 100s of billions of years old. I thought there is no way all these galaxies and stars could get organised in 13billion…

    http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2013/07/image-of-the-day-our-lopsided-universe-is-darker-lighter-slower-older-more-mysterious-than-we-though.html

  103. Gail Combs says:

    Zeke says: @ 8 July 2013 at 6:11 pm
    ….Here is an interesting statement by a political psychologist, and the data gathered through surveys:

    So what are my conclusions from all that research?

    My conclusion is that self-reports cannot reliably deliver accurate information about political psychology….

    Even my high level of “precautiousness” was, however, in my final analysis, not good enough when one is examining political attitudes, and it was political attitudes that I was most interested in. What Leftists, in particular, said about themselves lined up very poorly with what is known from history about Leftist behaviour. For example, Leftists are great lovers of a powerful central authority, as preached by Hegel and as seen in Communist movements worldwide, yet there is never any trace of that in survey research results. One would in fact gather from their responses that they are against all that. The supporters of big government tend to portray themselves as opposed to everything about it. Leftists just seem unable to acknowledge their own real attitudes and motivations. The real motivations of Leftists would seem too dismal to be acknowledged….

    Actually what is happening is the mixing up of the goals of the Ruling Class (who masquerade as liberals) and the rank and file who believe the lies they are told.

  104. Gail Combs says:

    ROTFLMAO!!!

    Mann vs Steyn

    Dazed and Confused: Steyn files motion for reconsideration on Mann lawsuit based on Clinton judge’s error in fact

    Below are the public court documents submitted by Mark Steyn’s attorney moving for reconsideration by Clinton-appointed D.C. Judge Natalia M. Combs Greene as a result of her decision to allow the lawsuit by climate scientist Michael Mann against Mark Steyn and National Review to proceed.

    Interestingly, it appears that Judge Combs Greene has mixed-up the defendants in the court’s ruling, attributing actions taken by the Consumer Enterprise Institution to Mark Steyn and National Review….
    [Court Documents]

    And this is an example of our great and wonderful judicial system?

  105. Zeke says:

    Gail says, “Actually what is happening is the mixing up of the goals of the Ruling Class (who masquerade as liberals) and the rank and file who believe the lies they are told.”

    In the first instance, these are the ones with the exceedingly agressive, misanthropic view that is “too dismal to be acknowledged,” as the political psychologist worded it. And in the second instance, it may be possible that these “rank and file” progressives are simply gullible or credulous. They believe that expanding government to provide cradle-to-grave services to all people is a wonderful idea, and now they wish to add saving the planet by deindustrializing.

    However, gullibility and credulity can and does get people killed. If this progresses, and this turns deadly (because authoritarian, tyrannical, and socialist governments historically begin first to kill their own citizens by the ten thousands, hundred thousands, and millions before invading their neighbors), then these very credulous individuals will be revealed as wreckless killers themselves, for having supported the deadly government and for increasing its power, and for ignoring good counsel and plain observations along the way that revealed what they are pursuing has very destructive consequences for economies and lives.

    PS Thank you for the research on RFIDs and food “safety” legislation. I have always learned so much from all of you.

  106. Gail Combs says:

    Zeke says: @ 29 July 2013 at 4:25 am

    In the first instance, these are the ones with the exceedingly aggressive….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I certainly agree with you there. (Again I am removing h.t.t.p.:.// to save EM the trouble of fishing my comment out of the ether.)

    There is a saying: “If your not a Socialist before 30 you have no heart, if your still a Socialist after 30 you have no head” So the idea is to capture the idealistic rebellious young and use them.

    John Dewey, American Fabian and Father of Progressive Education took this saying to heart and tried to come up with an educational method to make sure America’s youth never grew-up and never learned reason. (Now you know why disciplining a child became a crime in the USA.)
    SEE: Dumbing Down America by Dr. Samuel Blumenfeld
    (www.ordination.org/dumbing_down.htm )

    And the results:
    Motown’s Biggest Hit! by Mark Steyn
    (www.steynonline.com/3718/motown-biggest-hit )

    The nub of my argument was Detroit’s debasing of its human capital. I pointed out that the city has a functioning literacy rate of about 50 per cent. Forty-four per cent of adults have a reading comprehension below Grade Six level….

    unlike European cities, no bombs fell on Detroit. They did this to themselves. And the real rubble is not the ruined buildings, but the ruined people. This is an American city at the dawn of the 21st century, and one in two of its citizens are illiterate. That’s about the same rate as the Ivory Coast, or the Central African Republic, under its aforementioned cannibal emperor. Whereas in the Seventies and Eighties Detroit was ruled by a Democrat mayor, a bureaucracy-for-life, and an ever more featherbedded union army, all of whom cannibalized the city. Say what you like about Emperor Bokassa but, dollar for dollar, his reign was a bargain compared to Mayor Coleman Young’s. Hizzoner called himself the MFIC – the Muthaf*cker In Charge – and, by the time it was over, Detroit was certainly f*cked, and, judging by today’s shrunken population, any mothers other than transgenerational welfare dependents have long since hit the road….

    Unfortunately Mark Steyn is only speaking the truth.

    …For 10 years, William Schmidt, a statistics professor at Michigan State University, has looked at how U.S. students stack up against students in other countries in math and science. “In fourth-grade, we start out pretty well, near the top of the distribution among countries; by eighth-grade, we’re around average, and by 12th-grade, we’re at the bottom of the heap, outperforming only two countries, Cyprus and South Africa…. (www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0804/0804textbooks.htm )

    Another of the moves to hide their manipulation was removal of subject matter that would allow citizens to figure out how they were being manipulated. For example:
    Ignoring Elites, Historians Are Missing a Major Factor in Politics and History

    … Over the last quarter-century, historians have by and large ceased writing about the role of ruling elites in the country’s evolution. Or if they have taken up the subject, they have done so to argue against its salience for grasping the essentials of American political history. Yet there is something peculiar about this recent intellectual aversion, even if we accept as true the beliefs that democracy, social mobility, and economic dynamism have long inhibited the congealing of a ruling stratum. This aversion has coincided, after all, with one of the largest and fastest-growing disparities in the division of income and wealth in American history….Neglecting the powerful had not been characteristic of historical work before World War II. ” (hnn.us/roundup/archives/11/2005/3/#11068 )

    The Great Thanksgiving Hoax
    (mises.org/daily/336 )

    Each year at this time school children all over America are taught the official Thanksgiving story, and newspapers, radio, TV, and magazines devote vast amounts of time and space to it. It is all very colorful and fascinating.

    It is also very deceiving. This official story is nothing like what really happened. It is a fairy tale, a whitewashed and sanitized collection of half-truths which divert attention away from Thanksgiving’s real meaning….

    The problem with this official story is that the harvest of 1621 was not bountiful, nor were the colonists hardworking or tenacious. 1621 was a famine year and many of the colonists were lazy thieves.

    In his ‘History of Plymouth Plantation,’ the governor of the colony, William Bradford, reported that the colonists went hungry for years, because they refused to work in the fields. They preferred instead to steal food. He says the colony was riddled with “corruption,” and with “confusion and discontent.” The crops were small because “much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable.”

    To rectify this situation, in 1623 Bradford abolished socialism. He gave each household a parcel of land and told them they could keep what they produced, or trade it away as they saw fit. In other words, he replaced socialism with a free market, and that was the end of famines.

    Many early groups of colonists set up socialist states, all with the same terrible results. At Jamestown, established in 1607, out of every shipload of settlers that arrived, less than half would survive their first twelve months in America. Most of the work was being done by only one-fifth of the men, the other four-fifths choosing to be parasites….

    So again and again in the early history of American colonization ‘Socialism’ was tried and failed miserably but this lesson in reality was removed from the US school curriculum. Of course the Fabians had a solution for the problem of those “choosing to be parasites”

    KILLING THOSE “UNFIT TO LIVE”
    “The moment we face it frankly we are driven to the conclusion that the community has a right to put a price on the right to live in it … If people are fit to live, let them live under decent human conditions. If they are not fit to live, kill them in a decent human way. Is it any wonder that some of us are driven to prescribe the lethal chamber as the solution for the hard cases which are at present made the excuse for dragging all the other cases down to their level, and the only solution that will create a sense of full social responsibility in modern populations?”
    Source: George Bernard Shaw, Prefaces (London: Constable
    and Co., 1934), p. 296.
    (www.scribd.com/doc/37106239/The-Real-George-Bernard-Shaw-–-Fabian-Socialist-and-Hitlerian-Advocate-of-Mass-Murder )

    I doubt that anyone bothered to tell this to the welfare types voting for the Fabians. And it is not just the dead weight sleighted for elimination as the Soviet Intelligentsia found out after the revolution.

    Attacks on Intelligentsia: Early Attacks

    In the years immediately following their accession to power in 1917, the Bolsheviks took measures to prevent challenges to their new regime, beginning with eliminating political opposition. When the freely-elected Constituent Assembly did not acknowledge the primacy of the Bolshevik government, Vladimir Lenin dissolved it in January 1918. The Left Socialist Revolutionary Party, which protested the action, withdrew from the Bolshevik coalition in March, and its members were automatically branded enemies of the people….

    Attacks on Intelligentsia: Renewed Attacks

    The pattern of suppressing intellectual activity, with intermittent periods of relaxation, helped the party leadership reinforce its authority…. . Stalin now asserted that art should not merely serve society, but do so in a way determined by the party and its megalomaniacal plans for transforming society. As a result, artists and intellectuals as well as political figures became victims of the Great Terror of the 1930s….

    The attacks extended to scientists and philosophers and continued until after Stalin’s death in 1953… (www.ibiblio.org/expo/soviet.exhibit/attack.html )

    In this country the manipulation of education was also evident when the Bank Cartel placed their specially groomed economists in universities. We see the continuation of this in the Global Warming Hoax.

    …They gave large amounts of money to some of the better known universities in America; they created newly formed departments of economics with that money; they hand picked their own people to be the professors to head up those departments and then those professors with all of their academic credentials gave speeches and wrote scholarly essays extolling the virtues of the Federal Reserve System… (www.bigeye.com/griffin.htm )

    ……….

    Once prepped by Progressive Schools young people were ready to be exploited:

    The ‘Innocents’ Clubs’
    (www.heretical.com/miscella/munzen.html )

    …During the 1920’s and most of the 1930’s Münzenberg played a leading role in the Comintern, Lenin’s front for world-wide co-ordination of the left under Russian control. Under Münzenberg’s direction, hundreds of groups, committees and publications cynically used and manipulated the devout radicals of the West….Most of this army of workers in what Münzenberg called ‘Innocents’ Clubs’ had no idea they were working for Stalin. They were led to believe that they were advancing the cause of a sort of socialist humanism. The descendents of the ‘Innocents’ Clubs’ are still hard at work in our universities and colleges. Every year a new cohort of impressionable students join groups like the Anti-Nazi League believing them to be benign opponents of oppression…

    In April? 1994, after the KGB files were opened, the Wall Street Journal had a small blurb on a back page. It said that the papers found in the Kremlin showed activists groups in the USA were not only funded by the KGB but were LEAD by the KGB. I wish I had clipped that article but I though it would make front page news, more fool me.

    SO why didn’t this news make front page headlines? Who is now paying for the manipulation of the left? Standard Oil (Rockefeller) and the chemical and pharmaceutical industries were already linked to the Nazis. So why shouldn’t they use the tactics and organizations already set up by the KGB. Actually the Rockefellers were already neck deep in manipulating the American left for personal gain. Do you think Rockefeller was bluffing about being part of a secret cabal in his autobiography?

    For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists” and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it. – Pg. 405 of David Rockefeller’s Autobiography, 2002

    Or when speaking at the UN Business Council in Sept 17 1994

    “This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long – We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.” ~ David Rockefeller”

    This sounds like a ‘Conspiracy Theory’ until you read WTO director Pascal Lamy’s more current words. (June 08, 2011)

    …The reality is that, so far, we have largely failed to articulate a clear and compelling vision of why a new global order matters — and where the world should be headed. Half a century ago, those who designed the post-war system — the United Nations, the Bretton Woods system, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) — were deeply influenced by the shared lessons of history.

    All had lived through the chaos of the 1930s — when turning inwards led to economic depression, nationalism and war. All, including the defeated powers, agreed that the road to peace lay with building a new international order — and an approach to international relations that questioned the Westphalian, sacrosanct principle of sovereignty — rooted in freedom, openness, prosperity and interdependence…. (www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=9174 )

    So back in the thirties the decision was made to scrap the USA. Of note, David Rockefeller and John F Kennedy among many other leaders in politics, banking and commerce are graduates of the Fabian founded London School of Economics. Pascal Lamy, Bill Clinton and ex-UK Prime Minister lecture there. The Fabians goal has always been a world government under their control.

    The Rockefeller/Maurice Strong connection
    Maurice Strong (a rabid Socialist) worked in Saudi Arabia for a Rockefeller company, Caltex, in1953 He left Caltex in 1954 and to worked at high levels in banking and oil. By 1971, he served as a trustee for the Rockefeller Foundation, and in 1972 was Secretary-General of the U.N. Conference on the Human Environment,. He was Co-founder of the WWF and Senior Advisor to the World Bank and the UN, not bad for someone who was a dirt poor high school drop out in 1947.

    The whole Rockefeller/Strong/Saudi/Khashoggi/CIA/Bush/oil/banking interconnections are worth pursuing considering the 1973 Oil Crisis bankrupted third World Countries so they had to get World bank/IMF loans with SAPs strings controlling their governments.
    SEE: (www.whirledbank.org/development/sap.html )

    Strong’s early work with YMCA international “…may have been the genesis of Strong’s realization that NGOs (non-government organizations) provide an excellent way to use NGOs to couple the money from philanthropists and business with the objectives of government.” (sovereignty.net/p/sd/strong.html )

    In 1954 Lyndon B Johnson’s amendment changed the IRS code, prohibiting tax-exempt entities and churches from endorsing or opposing political candidates. Although this has largely stopped the influence of churches it has had absolutely no effect on NGOs. The prominence of NGOs and the foundations of today’s environment movement are traceable to the 1972 Strong’s U.N. Conference

    …given his ability to get things done, the consistency of his support for a world managed by bureaucrats is alarming. As Elaine Dewar wrote in Toronto’s Saturday Night magazine: as an advisor to the Rockefeller Foundation and the World Wildlife Fund. Above all, he served on the Commission on Global Governance — which, as we shall see, plays a crucial part in the international power grab.  The Commission on Global Governance (CGG), was established in 1992, after Rio, at the suggestion of Willy Brandt, former West German chancellor and head of the Socialist International. In 1991, the Club of Rome (of which Strong is, of course, a member) issued a report called The First Global Revolution, which asserted that current problems “are essentially global and cannot be solved through individual country initiatives.

    “Very few of even the larger international NGOs are operationally democratic, in the sense that members elect officers or direct policy on particular issues,” notes Peter Spiro. “Arguably it is more often money than membership that determines influence, and money more often represents the support of centralized elites, such as major foundations, than of the grass roots.” The CGG has benefited substantially from the largesse of the MacArthur, Carnegie, and Ford Foundations. (www.afn.org/~govern/strong.html )

    Next we come to the financing of all this manipulation. A gifted writer (and John Bircher) nailed it.

    A Talk by G. Edward Griffin Author of The Creature from Jekyll Island

    …Frank Vanderlip who was at the meeting wrote an article that appeared in the Saturday Evening Post on February 9, 1935 and I’d like to read for you just a short excerpt from that article. This is what Vanderlip said: “I do not feel it is any exaggeration to speak of our secret expedition to Jekyll Island as the occasion of the actual conception of what eventually became the Federal Reserve System. We were told to leave our last names behind us. We were told further that we should avoid dining together on the night of our departure. We were instructed to come one at a time and as unobtrusively as possible… Discovery we knew simply must not happen.”

    Why not? why the secrecy? what’s the big deal about a group of bankers getting together in private and talking about banking or even banking legislation. And the answer is provided by Vanderlip himself in the same article. He said: “If it were to be exposed publicly that our particular group had gotten together and written a banking bill, that bill would have no chance whatever of passage by Congress.” Why not? Because the purpose of the bill was to break the grip of the money trust and it was written by the money trust. And had that fact been known at the get-go, we would never have had a Federal Reserve System because as Vanderlip said it would have had no chance of passage at all by Congress….

    ….What is the benefit to the members of the partnership? The government benefits because it is able to tax the American people any amount it wishes through a process which the people do not understand called inflation. They don’t realize they’re being taxed which makes it real handy when you’re going for re-election. On the banking side they’re able to earn perpetual interest on nothing. I emphasis the word “perpetual” because remember when the loan is paid back it’s turned around and loaned out to somebody else. Once that money is created the object of the bank is to stay “loaned up” as they say….

    We’re talking about a river of unearned wealth that is so wide you can’t even think of crossing it, flowing perpetually into the banking cartel. A dead short across the productive element of society. Money being taken from people who are working hard providing the material and the labor. They don’t even know that this is being taken from them and it’s in this huge river of wealth flowing into the banking cartel. It’s a staggering thought.

    You are led to the question of where is this river flowing? Where’s it going?

    They are spending it to acquire control over the power centers of society. The power centers are those groups and institutions through which individuals live and act and rely on for their information. They are literally buying up the world but not the real estate and the hardware, they’re buying control over the organizations, the groups and institutions that control people. In other words, to be specific, they are buying control over politicians, political parties, television networks, cable networks, newspapers, magazines, publishing houses, wire services, motion picture studios, universities, labor unions, church organizations, trade associations, tax-exempt foundations, multi-national corporations, boy scouts, girl scouts, you name it. Make your own list of organizations and you will find that this is where those people have been for many decades spending this river of wealth to acquire operational control particularly over those institutions and individuals, those organizations that represent opposition to themselves. That’s a critical area for expenditure on their part.

    This process has gone on not only to a marked degree in America and in the other industrialized nations of the world, but it has gone on in the so-called third world or underdeveloped nations to such a degree that I would say the process is now complete. They own these countries already. Have you ever wondered what’s going on there at the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank? Kind of an obscure operation isn’t it?

    Confessions of an Economic Hit Man by John Perkins

    …In Perkins’ case, he was hired as an economist for the international consulting firm of Chas. T. Main, Inc. (MAIN). He was told in confidential meetings with “special consultant” to the company Claudine Martin that he had two primary objectives:

    1. He was supposed to justify huge loans for countries. These loans would be for major engineering and construction projects, which were to be carried out by MAIN and other U.S. companies such as Bechtel, Halliburton, Stone & Webster and Brown & Root.

    2. He was supposed to help bankrupt the countries that received these loans after the U.S. companies involved had been paid. This would make sure that these countries would remain in debt to their creditors and would then be easy targets when the U.S. needed favors such as military bases, UN votes and access to natural resources like oil…. (www.wanttoknow.info/johnperkinseconomichitman )

    Next up is the bankrupting of the USA to place it under complete control and remove the US Constitution. Perkin’s fingers the USA but in reality it is America’s Ruling Class.
    (spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print )

    Or as Dr. Evans (Jo Nova’s husband) puts it The Regulating Class
    (joannenova.com.au/2012/03/climate-coup-the-politics/ )

    “What unites the many different forms of Socialism is the conception that socialism must be handed down to the grateful masses by a ruling elite which is not subject to their control…” And the bankers/Fabians plan to be that “elite”

    Iain G Foulds says:
    network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/05/13/peter-foster-birthers-truthers-and-warmers.aspx#comments#ixzz0oEuVUdiV

    … Capitalism- the political philosophy of the Right- is truly respect for one another- respect for the right of others to their earnings and property.
    … The Left is essentially those who wish to violate this right, anointing themselves as the divider-up of the earnings and property of others.

    … The Left deviously disguises their barbarian economic philosophy behind a thousand shifting and evolving labels. Yet, their principles and perspectives are never more than thugs looting a store.

    Unfortunately they have enough money to be “respectable’ (think JFK and his bootlegger Dad)

  107. Gail Combs says:

    My Silly Wild Donkey guess is that the Soviet Union and the European Union were ‘Experiments’ by the Fabian Elite to figure out what the best method for ruling people was. They decided that something like the EU worked best because decisions were made far removed from the influence of the people but it gave the ‘Great Unwashed’ the illusion of freedom since NGOs could be used to control opinions. Without this illusion of freedom the serfs became unproductive despite any of the methods used by the Soviets. At that point the Soviet Union intentionally had the rug pulled out from under it and it collapsed.

    Everything You Think You Know About the Collapse of the Soviet Union Is Wrong
    (www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/06/20/everything_you_think_you_know_about_the_collapse_of_the_soviet_union_is_wrong?page=0,0 )

    Every revolution is a surprise. Still, the latest Russian Revolution must be counted among the greatest of surprises. In the years leading up to 1991, virtually no Western expert, scholar, official, or politician foresaw the impending collapse of the Soviet Union….
    When Mikhail Gorbachev became general secretary of the Communist Party in March 1985, none of his contemporaries anticipated a revolutionary crisis.…..

    ….the Soviet Union in 1985 possessed much of the same natural and human resources that it had 10 years before. Certainly, the standard of living was much lower than in most of Eastern Europe, let alone the West. Shortages, food rationing, long lines in stores, and acute poverty were endemic. But the Soviet Union had known far greater calamities and coped without sacrificing an iota of the state’s grip on society and economy, much less surrendering it.

    Nor did any key parameter of economic performance prior to 1985 point to a rapidly advancing disaster. From 1981 to 1985 the growth of the country’s GDP, though slowing down compared with the 1960s and 1970s, averaged 1.9 percent a year. The same lackadaisical but hardly catastrophic pattern continued through 1989. Budget deficits, which since the French Revolution have been considered among the prominent portents of a coming revolutionary crisis, equaled less than 2 percent of GDP in 1985. Although growing rapidly, the gap remained under 9 percent through 1989 — a size most economists would find quite manageable….

    “A new moral atmosphere is taking shape in the country,” Gorbachev told the Central Committee at the January 1987 meeting where he declared glasnost — openness — and democratization to be the foundation of his perestroika, or restructuring, of Soviet society.

    In a 1989 interview, the “godfather of glasnost,” Aleksandr Yakovlev, recalled that, returning to the Soviet Union in 1983 after 10 years as the ambassador to Canada, he felt the moment was at hand when people would declare, “Enough! We cannot live like this any longer. Everything must be done in a new way….

    ….Another member of Gorbachev’s very small original coterie of liberalizers, Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze, was just as pained by ubiquitous lawlessness and corruption. He recalls telling Gorbachev in the winter of 1984-1985: “Everything is rotten. It has to be changed.”

    Now take a second and think about the actors in this play.

    Gorbachev, Maurice Strong and Al Gore are referred to as “The Three Musketeers” of the environmental movement. (rense.com/general12/gobie.htm ) You then have Obama, Maurice Strong, Al Gore as key players cashing in on Chicago Climate Exchange. You have the Rockefeller/World Bank’s man Maurice Strong traveling freely between Canada, China and the Soviet Union. No doubt whispering in ears.

    Maurice Strong: The new guy in your future! by Henry Lamb

    …According to Elaine Dewar, author of Cloak of Green. Strong is a Socialist. He was born into a family who worked to get out the vote for Prime Minister Mackenzie King, who in 1943 was promoting the National Council for Soviet-Canadian Friendship. Strong’s cousin, Anna Louise Strong, was a Marxist, and a member of the Comintern, who spent two years with Mao and Chou En-lai. Her burial in China in 1970 was organized personally by Chou En-lai. Maurice is well received in China, partly because of his cousin’s connections.

    Strong is also closely aligned with Mikhail Gorbachev and was a participant in Gorbachev’s State of the World Forum in San Francisco in 1995.[2] His organization, Earth Council, and Gorbachev’s organization, Green Cross International, are currently developing a new “Earth Charter” for presentation to the U.N. General Assembly and ratification by all U.N. members before the year 2000….

    …Strong’s first exposure to the U.N. came in 1947 when, at 18, he went to New York to take a job as assistant pass officer in the Identification Unit of the Security Section. He lived with Noah Monod, then treasurer of the U.N.. Here, he first met David Rockefeller and learned that the U.N.’s funds were handled by Rockefeller’s Chase Bank. He also met the other Rockefeller brothers and other influential people as well.

    The idea of global governance emerged during this era. John J. McCloy was a member of the law firm that represented the Rockefeller’s business interests. McCloy helped set up the World Bank and became its first president. He also became an assistant to Roosevelt’s secretary of war, Henry Stimson. McCloy had been with Truman, Andrei Gromyko and Stalin at Potsdam in 1945, and it was McCloy who first received word that the atomic bomb test at Almagordo had been successful. He was appointed to a presidential commission to respond to a Soviet proposal that the United Nations control future development of atomic power. McCloy recommended that the U.S. turn over all information about the atomic bomb, including where to find uranium, to the U.N.. This idea of allowing the U.N. to become a supranational agency was also promoted by the Rockefellers and the Rockefeller-funded Council on Foreign Relations….
    [original link ‘underconstruction so here is an alternate] (www.slavenewworld.ca/index.php/agenda-21/54-agenda-21/1721-maurice-strong-the-new-guy-in-your-future )

    You have this validation at Maurice Strong’s Website. (www.mauricestrong.net/index.php/earth-council-alliance )

    …Later, Maurice Strong initiated the creation of the Earth Council, with the goal of activating and servicing a network of non-governmental organizations, committed to implementing the results of the Earth Summit.

    In 1994, Maurice Strong and Mikhail Gorbachev, former President of the Soviet Union, working through the Earth Council and the Green Cross, joined to launch the process of developing the Earth Charter as a civil society initiative

    The process quickly broadened to engage national committees, as well as civic and academic consultations, in dozens of nations. The initial drafting and consultation process also drew on hundreds of international documents, with special attention to those statements of ethical principle that were already embedded in international agreements….

    You then pull in the final actors Bill Clinton and Pascal Lamy entering stage left a scant four years after the collapse of the Soviet Union. (Bush had also tried and failed to get NAFTA and WTO ratified.) Clinton was responsible for the five banking laws that resulted in the current financial crisis. Clinton ratified NAFTA and WTO in 1995. Clinton started the push for the Food Safety Modernization Act and ‘Obamacare’. Clinton gave the Chinese US technical secrets including military secrets and then brought China into the WTO.
    Clinton Approves Technology Transfer to China
    (www.nytimes.com/1999/05/11/world/clinton-approves-technology-transfer-to-china.html )
    Chasing the Dragon: Clinton’s China Policy
    (www.artistmarket.com/writers/piraino/clintonchina.htm )
    (excellent summing up of Clinton’s sell-out of the US citizen)

    Finally we have Pascal Lamy, current Director-General of the WTO, nattering on about Global Governance using the EU as a model and the need to get rid of National Sovereignty and the Western way of life.
    (www.globalgovernancewatch.org/spotlight_on_sovereignty/lamy-calls-for-europeaninspired-global-governance )
    (www.theglobalist.com/storyid.aspx?StoryId=9174 )

    …………………….
    A bit more background.
    There are many flavors of Socialism and the Fabians are know for working with any and all of them. Socialism to them is just the sheepskin hiding the wolf from the gullible masses. (www.freedomforceinternational.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=fabianwindow&refpage=issues )

    There is enough evidence that the London Bankers/Rothschilds and the Fabians are ‘Associates’ There is also evidence that these bankers funded the Bolshevik Revolution.
    See: Bankrolling the Bolshevik Revolution
    (modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=NoneDare&C=4.0 )

    and Robert Minor’s political cartoon, DEELIGHT: (www.cuttingedge.org/pages/seminar2/DEELIGHT.htm)

    DESCRIPTION:

    A political cartoon drawn by cartoonist Robert Minor for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch in 1911 made an unusual statement. Minor’s cartoon portrays a bearded, beaming Karl Marx standing in Wall Street with Socialism tucked under his arm and accepting the congratulations of financial luminaries J.P. Morgan, Morgan partner George W. Perkins, a smug John D. Rockefeller, John D. Ryan of National City Bank, and Teddy Roosevelt – prominently identified by his famous teeth – in the background. Wall Street is decorated by Red flags. The cheering crowd and the airborne hats suggest that Karl Marx must have been a fairly popular sort of fellow in the New York financial district…. (www.cassiopaea.org/cass/cosmic_cointelpro_1911.htm)

    MINOR – DIEHARD SOCIALIST

    …While at the newspaper, Minor’s doctor, who was treating him for increasing deafness, converted him to socialism and in 1907 he joined the Socialist Party of America. A fellow member of the party, Max Eastman, later recalled: “Bob Minor possessed brilliant and original gifts both as a writer and artist… He was a natural-born fanatic. I used to feel that he would string me to a lamppost with the pained gleefulness of a Torquemada if I diverged by a hair from the fixed path of the revolution.” ….
    (www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/ARTminor.htm )

    It is also no secret the the Rothschilds were installed as bankers throughout Europe.
    From WIKI

    …In the late 18th century and early 19th century, Mayer Amschel Rothschild rose to become one of Europe’s most powerful bankers in the principality of Hesse-Kassel (Hesse-Cassel) in the Holy Roman Empire. In pursuit of expansion, he appointed his sons to start banking operations in the various capitals of Europe, including sending his third son, Nathan Mayer Rothschild, to England….

    ….Nathan Mayer’s eldest son, Lionel de Rothschild (1808–1879) succeeded him as head of the London branch. Under Lionel the bank financed the British government’s 1875 purchase of a controlling interest in the Suez Canal. Lionel also began to invest in railways as his uncle James had been doing in France. In 1869, Lionel’s son, Alfred de Rothschild (1842–1918), became a director of the Bank of England, a post he held for 20 years. Alfred was one of those who represented the British Government at the 1892 International Monetary Conference in Brussels. The Rothschild bank funded Cecil Rhodes in the development of the British South Africa Company and Leopold de Rothschild (1845–1917) administered Rhodes’s estate after his death in 1902 and helped to set up the Rhodes Scholarship scheme at Oxford University. [Think Bill Clinton]
    … In 1938, the Austrian Rothschilds’ interests were given to the Nazis, bringing to an end more than a century at the heart of Central European banking. In France and Austria, the family was scattered for the duration of the Second World War. After the war, the British and French banks committed themselves to further developing their new operation in the United States, which was eventually to become Rothschild Inc, and increased focus on mergers and acquisitions and asset management.

    In the 20th century, Rothschild developed into a preeminent global organisation, which enhanced its ability to secure key advisory roles in some of the most important, complex and recognizable mergers and acquisitions. In the 1980s, Rothschild took a leading role in the international phenomenon of privatisation, where the company was involved from the beginning and developed a pioneering role which spread out to over thirty countries worldwide. In recent years, Rothschild advised on nearly a thousand completed mergers and acquisitions, having a cumulative value in excess of US$1 trillion. Next to this, Rothschild also advised on some of the largest and most high-profile corporate restructurings around the world. Today the price of gold is still fixed, twice a day,[4] at 10.30 am and 3.00 pm at the premises of N M Rothschild by the world’s main Bullion Houses: Deutsche Bank, HSBC, ScotiaMocatta and Societe Generale…. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_M_Rothschild_%26_Sons )

    (This was supposed to be short!)

  108. Zeke says:

    Thank you Gail.

    The “United Nations” is nothing more than a World Empire. There is a spiritual dimension to all of this. Empires in the scripture are huge, unnatural, dreadful beasts assembled, like chimera, of things that do not naturally belong together. This next world empire is pictured the same way as the Roman Empire – the image is the same:

    19 “Then I wished to know the truth about the fourth beast, which was different from all the others, exceedingly dreadful, with its teeth of iron and its nails of bronze, which devoured, broke in pieces, and trampled the residue with its feet; 20 and the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up, before which three fell, namely, that horn which had eyes and a mouth which spoke pompous words, whose appearance was greater than his fellows.

    21 “I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.

    23 “Thus he said:

    ‘The fourth beast shall be
    A fourth kingdom on earth,
    Which shall be different from all other kingdoms,
    And shall devour the whole earth,
    Trample it and break it in pieces.
    24 The ten horns are ten kings
    Who shall arise from this kingdom.
    And another shall rise after them;
    He shall be different from the first ones,
    And shall subdue three kings.
    25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
    Shall persecute[d] the saints of the Most High,
    And shall intend to change times and law.
    Then the saints shall be given into his hand
    For a time and times and half a time.” Daniel 7

    This beast is the Roman Empire, but reappears as a future World Empire in Revelation. This world leader, who will compel people to receive a mark in the right hand or forehead, has several other identifying characteristics.

  109. Zeke says:

    “11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives those[e] who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[f] the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13

    That is the text so you can see for yourself. I would add that the technology has arrived for the mark, which would allow for economic coercion and forced participation. RFID implantable chips are connected to an Obamacare Data Hub.

    He will be wounded. It seems to me he is a man who is nearly killed. His survival will be considered miraculous. He will also be extremely pompous and blasphemous in his language.

    The fire from heaven is also quite simple. The Earth is a charged body surrounded by Van Allen Belts in which flow tremendous amounts of electrical energy. This clever leader will be able to show signs because he figured out that it is an electric universe and will use it for political and religious purposes. The “elites” we are speaking of believe that only religion really motivates the simple people, so they will attempt to use religion in est. of a World Empire. They will deliberately present a false christ, and anti-christ, promising world “peace and safety.”

    The idol is very strange and hard to explain. But it is clever. There are only certain types of people who will resist giving reverence to an idol, so in a way, I think this idol is a shibboleth set up to determine and identify who is religious or even just sensible. The Romans had a simple test: “Just say ‘Caesar is Lord'” and those who objected and lost their lives. Also, in Daniel, the clever ruling class desired to get rid of Daniel, so they passed a law that would require prayer only to the king, for the period of one month. This religious requirement was deliberate and allowed them to arrest Daniel. Also, the academics have long kept their circles pure of conservatives, and other view-points, by insisting on evolutionary doctrines as a standard of scientific literacy. Any one who reserves belief is considered anti-science. It is a kind of scientific shibboleth. This is a tactic we may all be familiar with.

    There is plenty of precedence in history for megalomaniacs making statues of themselves – esp. in the Roman Empire. The means of killing us will be beheading, and some will be burned. The decisions ahead may become very difficult. We will all need strength, courage, and hope to walk through what may be coming. God will provide powerfully for those who trust Him. And it may still be delayed. I am letting you know these things because you may never hear of it otherwise.

  110. Gail Combs says:

    Zeke, I am an ‘Agnostic’ that is I just plain don’t know but as a scientist the laws we have uncovered make me lean towards a divine being. I got turned off organized religion because of all the hypocrisy, however there is a heck of a lot of very good philosophy and common sense in the Bible. I was raised a Christian and I am appalled by the open attacks on the Jews and the Christians. The attack on Roy Spencer’s beliefs in CONGRESS was enough to make me see red! There is also enough going on right now, such as an attempt at a totalitarian world government and ‘Mark of the Beast’ to scare me.

    What is interesting is Maurice Strong and his buddies have gathered a bunch of people from different religions to more or less hammer out a ‘New Religion’. Religion has often been a method used for controlling the masses. Look up Maurice Strong, Aspen Institute, Baca Ranch, and the Crestone Institute.

    You might enjoy a VERY LONG discussion (over 200 pages!) at a die-hard Conspiracy website Above Top Secret (ATS) called All Roads Lead to Rome. (www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread564758/pg1 )
    ProtoplasmicTraveler, who happens to live in Florida, put a lot of research into it and other members added. He later got kicked off the website and the thread was closed about a year ago.

    I will warn you that after following WUWT and EM the level of intelligence is not as high at ATS so there is a lot more chaff to wade through. There are also some very sharp people contributing. All Roads Lead to Rome gathers a lot of different information you normally won’t come across about history and plans for a one World Government all in one place which is why I recommend it.

  111. Zeke says:

    Thank you Gail. I am thankful for you as an objective observer. I have been very wonderfully instructed and taught by every one of you over the past four years. I owe you all so much.

  112. Gail Combs says:

    GAME CHANGER!
    World changing technology enables crops to take nitrogen from the air
    http://www.seeddaily.com/reports/World_changing_technology_enables_crops_to_take_nitrogen_from_the_air_999.html

    ….only a very small number of plants, most notably legumes (such as peas, beans and lentils) have the ability to fix nitrogen from the atmosphere with the help of nitrogen fixing bacteria….

    Professor Edward Cocking, Director of The University of Nottingham’s Centre for Crop Nitrogen Fixation, has developed a unique method of putting nitrogen-fixing bacteria into the cells of plant roots. His major breakthrough came when he found a specific strain of nitrogen-fixing bacteria in sugar-cane which he discovered could intracellularly colonise all major crop plants.

    This ground-breaking development potentially provides every cell in the plant with the ability to fix atmospheric nitrogen. The implications for agriculture are enormous as this new technology can provide much of the plant’s nitrogen needs….

  113. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Zeke: This beast is the Roman Empire, …Don´t forget who was the UN Secretary: Javier Perez de Cuéllar, a member of the CLUB OF ROME.
    Nothing can liberate us from those servants and maidens of the NWO! except their own stupidity.

  114. Verity Jones says:

    For a quick chuckle: Two churches located across the street from each other. At least the Catholics have a sense of humor.
    http://trilliansthoughts.tumblr.com/post/56379573415/two-churches-located-across-the-street-from-each-other

  115. p.g.sharrow says:

    @Verity Jones says: At least the Catholics have a sense of humor…………LoL :-)
    Young churches want to be accepted. Middle aged churches want to be feared. Old churches want to get along.
    When GOD looks into a mirror he sees DOG! Everything has a soul and is a part of GOD. Maybe even Presbyterians. ;-) pg

  116. Gail Combs says:

    Verity,
    Thanks very much. I am still chuckling.

  117. @Verity,
    At about 8 years old I attended the Convent School in Tenby, Pembrokeshire, South Wales just outside the “Five Arches” in the ancient town walls.

    Back then I had a donkey that was beyond awesome. When the donkey died none of my relatives could console me so I asked my favorite nun whether donkeys went to heaven.

    She answered “No, donkeys don’t have souls”. As a heaven without donkeys is unappealing I am not a Catholic.

  118. Zeke & Gail,
    One can believe in a “Divine Being” while realizing that “isms” don’t make sense. The “isms” were created by the imagination of mankind (Buddhism, Islamism, Judaism and all the others). They can’t all be right. Can even one of them be right? When you pick an “ism” you are saying that the rest of us are wrong.

  119. Zeke says:

    What is it with dog owners? One of them told me that the first Gate you come to after you die says, “Heaven. No pets. Leave animals here.” But a little further along, there is a second Gate. When you go in this gate, they will then tell you “We just didn’t want anyone in the third heaven who would leave their pets like that.” (:

  120. Gail Combs says:

    gallopingcamel says:
    ….As a heaven without donkeys is unappealing I am not a Catholic….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    You got it! A heaven without animals is down right uninteresting. Some of my best friends have/had four feet and a tail.

  121. Gail Combs says:

    sabretoothed says:
    30 July 2013 at 4:54 am

    What are your thoughts on Cherry Angiomas and Bromide…..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Eat more iodine. http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=69

    Older folks switching from commercial iodized NaCl to commercial un-iodized KCl however could be at risk. If you are on a low salt diet, eat more cheese, yogurt and eggs as well as fish and shellfish. As long as all the salt in processed foods is iodized it should not be a problem in the USA.

    The big question is if all the salt in your pizzas and burgers is iodized salt. And the answer is NO.

    ….According to a study reported on at the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists (AACE) annual conference in Boston, researchers looked at the iodine content of various foods at Burger King and McDonald’s, and found that many of the foods at these two popular fast food outlets are low in iodine. Interestingly, even though Burger King endorses the use of iodized salt in food preparation, their food had low iodine levels as well….

    COMMENT:
    I’ve been told that processed food is made with NON-iodized salt. I check with Kraft cheese and found it was true for their Cracker Barrell Old Cheddar which I eat a lot of. So if you also follow the ‘prescribed’ lowsalt diet, you are even more likely to end up hypothyroid.

    (hyroid.about.com/b/2010/04/26/iodine-fast-food-thyroid.htm 0

    Another comment mentioned an iodine skin test where 2% iodine was applied to the skin and the color measured.

    Is the Iodine Skin Test Accurate, Plus How Much Iodine Should I Take?
    (renegadehealth.com/blog/2011/01/17/is-the-iodine-skin-test-accurate-plus-how-much-iodine-should-i-take )

    ….The iodine challenge skin test isn’t a great marker either.

    I know plenty of you have heard that putting iodine on your arm or stomach and seeing if it absorbs is an effective test to determine if you have enough iodine or not.

    Unfortunately, this is not an accurate test at all.

    The way this challenge test goes is that you rub liquid iodine on your skin (which is naturally brown) and if there’s little trace of the brown iodine mark in 24 hours, you are supposed to be deficient in iodine.

    This type of testing is highly inaccurate. In fact, your body will absorb 6-12% of the iodine regardless of your body’s internal levels. That also means that the other 88-94% will be rubbed off or evaporate.

    This 6-12% absorption is actually OK, which proves that you can take iodine topically, but it does not prove that you’re deficient or not.

    It just proves what we know – iodine can be absorbed by the skin…..

    Dr. J. E. Williams, during the recording of our Complete Thyroid Health program suggests these tests to determine how will your thyroid is functioning:

    – Simple Thyroid Screening: TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone)
    – A More Detailed Approach: TSH, free T4, Total T3
    – The Functional Medicine Thyroid Panel: TSH, Total T4, Free T4, Total T3, Free T3, Reverse T3

    Each one of these serves a purpose depending on the individual.

    If you just want to check your thyroid, then the simple TSH test will be enough.

    If you’re having some issues you feel may be related to the thyroid, then TSH, free T4, and Total T3 would be the next step.

    If you know you have a thyroid issue and you really want to drill down where you need to improve your thyroid health, then the complete Functional Medicine panel will help.

    None of these tests measure iodine, but when your thyroid is not working properly, there is a correlation between iodine levels – low iodine is correlated with hypothyroid and high iodine with hyperthyroid.

    If you can bring back the balance of your thyroid function with supplements like iodine as well as other nutrients and adaptogens, then your hormone tests should trend toward normal…..

    A couple of the scientific studies:

    Transcutaneous iodine absorption in adult patients with thyroid cancer disinfected with povidone-iodine at operation.
    (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16029128 )

    Abstract

    Povidone-iodine is used as disinfection in patients undergoing many kinds of operations. Several cases of thyroid dysfunction induced by transcutaneous absorption of povidone-iodine have been reported in small infants. However, transcutaneous absorption was not clearly reported in adults. The aim of this study was to assess transcutaneous absorption of iodine in patients who received single topical application with povidoneiodine and serial changes of urinary iodine excretion under the condition with a simple iodine-restricted diet in Japan, an iodine-sufficient area….

    The amounts of urinary iodine correlated positively with operating time. Increased urinary iodine, however, returned to preoperative values on the third or fifth day after operation. In group B, there was no increase in urinary iodine excretion and urinary iodine excretion was ranged from 54 to 193 microg/g of creatinine on the third day of operation. In conclusion, a large amount of povidone-iodine was absorbed through healthy skin even in adults. This may possibly interfere with scintigraphy or radioactive iodine treatment, or cause thyroid disinfection in susceptible patients.

    125I uptake competing with iodine absorption by the thyroid gland following povidone-iodine skin application.
    (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9250480 )

    Abstract

    Povidone-iodine solution is widely used to disinfect the skin surface or prevent suppuration during human and animal surgery. Using radioisotope 125I, we examined whether iodine may be absorbed and then concentrated in the thyroid gland when povidone-iodine solution is applied to the skin of rats or mice. The competition for 125I uptake was examined in mice and rats after the application of povidone iodine to the skin. We also traced the process of absorbed 125I in the thyroid glad during the fixation for tissue preparations. Povidone-iodine applied to the skin significantly reduced the uptake of 125I both in mice and rats. Significant flux of 125I from the thyroid gland in povidone-iodine treated animals was noted during the thyroid fixation of tissue preparations. From these results, povidone-iodine application to the skin instead of stable KI administration may be practical for preventing the uptake of 125I by the thyroid gland during 125I compound administration for medical therapy. In animal experiments concerning thyroid functions, careful attention must be paid when povidone-iodine is used for disinfection in animal surgery.

    No doubt this is why povidone-iodine scrubs were taken off the consumer market a few years ago. you can still get the povidone-iodine liquid for treating wounds. I add it to baby shampoo for the spring bath of my animals since it kills rain-rot and other skin fungi.

    7% iodine was also taken off the market. It was used for sterilizing the umbilical cord of colts, lambs, kids and calves. It kills tetanus AND VIRUSES. It also keeps tick bites from itching and helps prevent infection if applied within 12 hrs or so of getting bitten. However it burns the heck out of you skin and could cause problems with your thyroid.

    Iodine: the Forgotten Weapon Against Influenza Viruses
    (www.thyroidscience.com/reviews/derry/Derry.flu.iodine.9.19.09.pdf‎ )

    ABSTRACT:
    After the 1918 Influenza Pandemic which killed an estimated 30 million people, governments
    financed research on the Pandemic’s causes. Over 25 years, influenza viruses were isolated and methods for killing them with various agents discovered. Iodine was the most effective agent for killing viruses, especially influenza viruses. Aerosol iodine was found to kill viruses in sprayed mists, and solutions of iodine were equally effective. In 1945, Burnet and Stone found that putting iodine on mice snouts prevented the mice from being infected with live influenza virus in mists. They suggested that impregnating masks with iodine would help stop viral spread. They also recommended that medical personnel have iodine-aerosol-treated rooms for examination and treatment of highly infected patients. Current methods of dealing with influenza infection are isolation, hand washing, antiviral drugs, and vaccinations. All of these methods can be improved by incorporating iodine into them. When impregnated with iodine, masks become much more effective, and hand washing is more effect when done with mild iodine solutions….

  122. Gail Combs says:

    gallopingcamel says:
    30 July 2013 at 3:11 am

    Zeke & Gail,
    One can believe in a “Divine Being” while realizing that “isms” don’t make sense…..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That is my point of view. The “isms” are man made and often corrupt at the higher levels. They have also been the cause of a lot of human deaths.

  123. p.g.sharrow says:

    Elites create “isms” for political control of the “masses”. “Cult” leaders are all the same.”
    We don’t need them or their “isms”. pg

  124. Zeke says:

    Cheifio says https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2012/12/06/cold-coincidence-or-volcanic-coordination/

    EM Smith has written about the correlation of low sunspot activity with volcanic eruptions on Earth. Peter Mungo Jupp picks up the discussion and explores further the connection between catastrophes on Earth and solar activity in this video:
    http://www.iplayerhd.com/player/4b1995a8-0253-44e3-96fa-860c0d6a5a2e

  125. Zeke says:

    @Camel “you are saying that the rest of us are wrong.”

    The plain message is that there is such thing as good and truth, and also evil and falsehood. This being so, man is a free agent, who has the liberty to choose between these. This is not foreign to the ancient and the wisest traditions of other people also. But in the coming age, nothing will enter heaven that “makes or practices a lie.” Today all things are mixed and we have sorrows.

    Why does anyone think it is so strange or impossible that there is a resurrection of the body? “It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.” “It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power.” (1 Cor 15) Just look at a flower bulb or corm. You cannot tell what will grow up from a bulb, whether it will be a hyacinth, or a daffodil, or maybe a gladiola. But the form of the true nature of that flower is in the ugly bulb which is planted in the ground.

    Or if you watch a dragonfly emerge from its nymph stage, you can see a picture of how our true form will emerge from our physical form.

    So our true spiritual nature will be revealed from our old bodies, such as they are. In the afterlife, you cannot appear to be one way outside, and be something else on the inside. That is impossible. And so complete forgiveness and an extremely powerful work of inward regeneration is provided now.

  126. Zeke,
    Those videos were awesome. Evidence of a higher power in my estimation. But what higher power? The one praised by Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Jews or the thousands of others?

    If you think one of any religion as “Right” you are saying that all the others are wrong.

  127. Gail Combs,
    You make so much sense. I would really appreciate an opportunity to meet you. It would be great if we could meet in Brevard county, Florida but failing that I travel to North Carolina from time to time. In April I was teaching at the NCSU McKimmon Center but I had a course starting at UCF, Orlando the following day so there was no time for socializing.

    My next course at NCSU is scheduled for September 9:
    https://onece.ncsu.edu/mckimmon/divisionUnits/ctu/fiberOptics.jsp

    Are you available on September 8?

  128. Gail Combs says:

    gallopingcamel says: @ 31 July 2013 at 4:48 am

    ….Are you available on September 8?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I think that is a Sunday so I should be available in the evening. I would suggest meeting Here: http://www.dixiebellesbbq.com/

    It is a step up from a burger-thing and the food is great. I am taking it you are a carnivore. If not there are some decent Chinese or Indian type restaurants.

  129. Steve C says:

    @Adolfo – Ah, but Nazca’s only part of it

  130. Steve C says:

    … and a few more minutes’ searching suggests that this fellow is the one doing most of the work. Interesting stuff.

    All I’m saying about this is “aaargh!”.

  131. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Steve C: Kind of weird. Now some say all these places were to align energy of some frequency as to have humanity under control by the Cabal.

  132. Gail Combs says:

    p.g.sharrow says: @ 30 July 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Elites create “isms” for political control of the “masses”…..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Agreed, I was just trying to be a little less blunt.

    Of course in early eras if nature took a 90 degree turn the shaman king could find himself sacrificed.

    Bog bodies are kings sacrificed by Celts says expert
    (www.irishcentral.com/news/Bog-bodies-are-kings-sacrificed-by-Celts-says-expert-129289548.html )
    An expert has stated that the latest bog body found in Ireland has proven that belief that the Celts ritually sacrificed their kings to the Gods.

    The body also proves they underwent horrible deaths, if the times turned bad under their reign.

    The latest Iron Age bog body dating back to at least 2,000 BC was discovered near Portlaoise in the Irish midlands by an alert bog worker and it bears the same hallmarks of ritual torture that two other famous bodies have.

    Ned Kelly, keeper of antiquities at the National Museum of Ireland told the Irish Examiner that a clear pattern has emerged in each case.

    Maybe we do need to return to worship of GAIA along with the sacrifice of out political leaders (with ritual torture of course) if they screw up. It might keep them a bit more honest.

  133. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Gail Combs: Your idea is simply great but we must apply it to the REAL kings not to the butlers or maidens.

  134. Gail Combs says:

    adolfogiurfa, the idea is to make the elected political leaders responsive to US and not to the elite as they are now.

    Top Senate Democrat: bankers “own” the U.S. Congress
    (www.salon.com/2009/04/30/ownership/ )

    Sen. Dick Durbin, on a local Chicago radio station this week, blurted out an obvious truth about Congress that, despite being blindingly obvious, is rarely spoken: “And the banks — hard to believe in a time when we’re facing a banking crisis that many of the banks created — are still the most powerful lobby on Capitol Hill. And they frankly own the place.” The blunt acknowledgment that the same banks that caused the financial crisis “own” the U.S. Congress — according to one of that institution’s most powerful members — demonstrates just how extreme this institutional corruption is.

    The ownership of the federal government by banks and other large corporations is effectuated in literally countless ways, none more effective than the endless and increasingly sleazy overlap between government and corporate officials….

  135. Sera says:

    Grasshopper- “When you can walk the ricepaper without leaving a trail, then your footsteps can not be heard.”

    http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?cid=1104&MainCatID=11&id=20130801000126

  136. Steve C says:

    Gail Combs says above, “the idea is to make the elected political leaders responsive to US and not to the elite as they are now.” Quite right – perhaps we’d do better to forget representative democracy and go for participatory democracy, more like the ancient Greeks’ understanding of the concept. If you want something done properly, do it yourself, as my Mum used to say.

    At the least, if we can’t do something directly to control the hierarchies we have created, we could think about the phenomenon identified by Alessandro Pluchino et al in Accidental Politicians: How Randomly Selected Legislators Can Improve Parliament Efficiency:

    We study a prototypical model of a Parliament with two Parties or two Political Coalitions and we show how the introduction of a variable percentage of randomly selected independent legislators can increase the global efficiency of a Legislature, in terms of both the number of laws passed and the average social welfare obtained. We also analytically find an “efficiency golden rule” which allows to fix the optimal number of legislators to be selected at random after that regular elections have established the relative proportion of the two Parties or Coalitions. These results are in line with both the ancient Greek democratic system and the recent discovery that the adoption of random strategies can improve the efficiency of hierarchical organizations.

    (My bold)

    It could hardly result in a worse system than we have at present, and if that sounds like a damning indictment of the current arrangement, so be it. His earlier paper, on applying similar methodology to business hierarchies, is here.

    @Adolfo – Agreed, very weird. I used to be pretty scathing about people finding pi (or whatever) in pyramid measurements, but when as many “phi’s” and regular relationships as that turn up hand in hand, “Once is happenstance, Mr. Bond. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.”)

  137. Zeke says:

    “Britain’s bill for EU membership has more than tripled over the last decade, increasing from £2.9 billion in 2002 to £9.5bn in 2012. Britain’s “net contribution” to the EU went up £1.7bn or 22 per cent last year setting a new record for the cash sum that British taxpayers handed over to Brussels.”

  138. Jason Calley says:

    @ Gail Combs “Maybe we do need to return to worship of GAIA along with the sacrifice of out political leaders (with ritual torture of course) if they screw up. It might keep them a bit more honest.”

    Or maybe something a bit more civilized. I like the old custom from Venice back when it was still a sovereign Republic. There was a special gallows, reserved for the exclusive use of hanging the Dodge when he went bad. The gallows was in the square adjacent to the Dodge’s office and visible through the window as he performed his official functions.

  139. jim2 says:

    @Gail Combs says:
    1 August 2013 at 10:12 pm
    I’m not so sure I believe Dubin is right in the sense that the tech companies are exerting a huge influence over Congress to up the number of H1Bs. This, at a time when the middle class is already shrinking. Importing huge numbers of IT workers will just exacerbate this problem. Tech companies pay HIBs much less than US citizens and naturally that drives down wages for citizens that manage to keep their jobs. The bottom line is that government and big business are sleeping together. To secure votes the politicians have erected a lavish welfare system. The secure money, the politicians suck up to business and the rich. The middle class no longer has representation.

  140. Zeke says:

    Time for a concert. Cheifio likes the Moody Blues

  141. Gail Combs says:

    Jason Calley says:
    3 August 2013 at 1:10 am

    Or maybe something a bit more civilized….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Madame Guillotine on the White House lawn? And the entrance of the House and Senate?

  142. Steve C says:

    One way in which I mis-spent my youth was reading science fiction. I’m fairly sure it was in a Robert Sheckley story that, on some distant planet, politicians were required to wear a close-fitting, locked collar, linked to the central computer, from the day they started to the day they were replaced.

    The population, following what a politician did, could vote for or against that politician down at the local town hall, with the central computer keeping track of the votes. When too many people had voted against some misbehaving individual, the explosive charge in the collar was triggered, solving the problem directly.

    I always did like Sheckley’s stories. And just think, now, “we have the technology” … ;-)

  143. Jason Calley says:

    Perhaps a workable method is to tattoo a skull and crossbones on the forehead of sociopaths.
    Run a PET scan on everyone to monitor their various brain centers. Sociopaths do not show the same empathetic response that healthy people do.

    Seriously, 9 out of 10 people are good people — it is just that 5% or 10% of others who make the world dangerous. We need to have some way to distinguish who is who.

  144. CompuGator says:

    jim2 says (3 August 2013 at 12:41 pm):

    @Gail Combs says: 1 August 2013 at 10:12 pm
    I’m not so sure I believe Dubin is right in the sense that the tech companies are exerting a huge influence over Congress to up the number of H1Bs.

    Huh? In her comment, Combs didn’t write anything about H1Bs or “tech companies” specifically.

    jim2 says (per link above):

    This, at a time when the middle class is already shrinking. Importing huge numbers of IT workers will just exacerbate this problem.

    What the (expletives deleted) do you mean, “will”, as if the impacts of H1B visas on U.S. citizens have not yet appeared, and can only be detected at some indefinite time in the future!? Sheesh!

    jim2 says (per link above):

    Tech companies pay HIBs much less than US citizens and naturally that drives down wages for citizens that manage to keep their jobs.

    It also (reportedly) creates cliques of foreign high-tech workers who, once they obtain hiring authority, hire people whose styles of operation they’re most comfortable with–who, unsurprisingly, typically are foreigners like themselves. De facto affirmative action” for foreigners!

    Meanwhile, as the national politicians–of both parties–promote the apple-pie goal of home ownership, H1B visa-holders are often cooped up 4 or more to a 2-bedroom apartment, paid for by their corporate sponsor or some intermediary. A dormitory life-style can make good sense for college undergrad students, but for a U.S. citizen who’d finally survived the challenges of earning 1 or more degrees in engineering or computer science!? A U.S. computing, engineering, or hard-sciences professional should not have her/his salary & living arrangements insultingly reduced for race-to-the-bottom competition with whatever will be tolerated by foreigners who’ve received an artificially privileged priority to immigrate to the U.S.A.

    jim2 says (per link above):

    The bottom line is that government and big business are sleeping together.

    It’s economic treason, pure and simple. Probably no more egregious example exists than a Silicon Valley congresswoman (seems to me that it’s Zoe Lofgren, who might once have been my county supervisor/commissioner): She is the strongest advocate for H1B visas in the entire Congress, having decided to serve corporations instead of her U.S.-citizen constituents, despite being the nominal “representative” of a Congressional district that likely has the highest proportion–if not the highest absolute numbers–of highly educated high-tech workers in the U.S.A.

    What’s that? I need to provide links in a “Tips” comment, instead of just my own deeply felt rant? Sure, I can do that:

    According to information gathered in a persistent effort by Dr. Norm Matloff: a computer-science professor at U.C. Davis[*]:

    There is no software labor shortage. Instead, there is rampant age discrimination in the high tech industry. Employers will hire someone over 40 only if he/she is lucky enough to have currently hot software skills; instead, employers focus on hiring new college graduates and foreign nationals, both of which are cheaper than domestic mid-career programmers.[#]

    Note *: Various clues lead me to a conclusion that U.C. Davis is Chiefio’s alma mater.

    Note #: Quoted text was discovered in the HTML ‘META NAME="description" CONTENT=‘ tag for http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/h1b.html, where it is detected & displayed only in some search-result summaries, but is not displayed by the browser when loaded as an ordinary page (I dunno why he would’ve coded the page in a way that practically hid one of his most compelling accusations).

  145. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Jason: It is not foreign workers….instead THE CABAL ALIENS dedicated in a 24 shift to break down the old great USA we always admired in the past. For us foreigners it is a real pity to witness such a destruction.
    BTW:(Kind of weird thing)
    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1694.htm

  146. p.g.sharrow says:

    High tech – Human Resource people are trained to write job descriptions so only H1Bs persons can qualify. Any “locals” are “over” qualified and not suitable as they don’t meet the Qualifications needed in the job description. There is no shortage in qualified “locals” just ones that will settle for a pay reduction in their field of expertise. If you are desperate to fill a position then hire a contract worker, like E.M.Smith on a promise of employment while you find a cheaper employee for him to train. pg

  147. p.g.sharrow says:

    @Adolfo; that link is some heavy stuff!
    From a Swiss point of view as well.
    Some of the presented facts are known to me, Others are not. Something to pay attention to.
    If I were to choose, our military is much more honorable then the Obamanation and has been very well grounded in the Intent and words of our Constitution, Not at all like many of our politicians. Maybe this will be the reset button that the prophecies call for. I hope they outlaw the UN as well for crimes against humanity.
    Need more popcorn. Now just who is the wise old man? pg

  148. Gail Combs says:

    Jason Calley says:
    4 August 2013 at 1:49 pm

    Perhaps a workable method is to tattoo a skull and crossbones on the forehead of sociopaths….

    Seriously, 9 out of 10 people are good people — it is just that 5% or 10% of others who make the world dangerous.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
    And they are normally the ones who become leaders by knifing others in the back and climbing over dead bodies sometimes litterally. My ex-brother, now a multimillionaire is one so I have had a first had view. (Shudder, the dead bodies was not a joke.)

  149. p.g.sharrow says:

    @Adolfo; That link to the “whatdoesitmean” seems to be a front for David Booth aka “Sorcha Faal ” and is most likly a real flake. Some facts and a lot of bs! Intertaining though. pg

  150. adolfogiurfa says:

    @p.g.: So you knew the source, anyway it was entertaining.

  151. Gail Combs says:

    Camel did you see my comment on meeting at Dixie Bell?

  152. jim2 says:

    @CompuGator says: 4 August 2013 at 4:06 pm
    Hey CG, don’t have a stroke. What I meant was that is isn’t ONLY bankers who are screwing us out of our inheritance – it’s the whole damn business “complex.” When I was a chemist, that profession was watered down with H1Bs before the chemical industry pulled up stakes and moved to the Middle East and elsewhere. I’ve had my job taken over by Indian Indians, most of which didn’t even live in the US, although some did have the 4-to-a-room arrangement. I think I understand the H1B thing well enough.

  153. adolfogiurfa says:

    @jim2: When I was a chemist, that profession was watered down with H1Bs before the chemical industry pulled up stakes and moved to the Middle East and elsewhere.
    Ingenuity does not migrate so easily….So there is still room left for new technologies.

  154. Jason Calley says:

    @ Gail Combs “And they are normally the ones who become leaders by knifing others in the back and climbing over dead bodies sometimes litterally. ”

    Yes, exactly — and that is why we need some way of marking these people so that they can be shunned by decent folk. Who knows, perhaps they could even be helped if caught at a young enough age. How far are we from a non-intrusive method of scanning a person from a distance to determine whether he is a sociopath?

  155. LG says:

    The Sun’s Magnetic Field is About to Flip

  156. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Jason Calley: Ask any school teacher: They are of the not so clever class who almost automatically need to compensate their lack of qualities….i.e: “the bad kids”.

  157. Gail Combs says:

    jim2 says:
    6 August 2013 at 12:06 am

    @CompuGator says: 4 August 2013 at 4:06 pm
    Hey CG, don’t have a stroke. What I meant was that is isn’t ONLY bankers who are screwing us out of our inheritance – it’s the whole damn business “complex.” When I was a chemist, that profession was watered down with H1Bs before the chemical industry pulled up stakes and moved to the Middle East and elsewhere. I’ve had my job taken over by Indian, Indians most of which didn’t even live in the US…
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Yes Indians who would ‘Think’ but were not willing to get their hands dirty* or go out into the factory and actually figure out what went wrong (my forte) I was an industrial chemist QC engineer.

    *Touching things is for the lower castes and from what I could see Indian chemists were fumble fingered in the lab but talked a good game. Too bad management never figured that out.

  158. Gail Combs says:

    Jason Calley says:
    6 August 2013 at 2:40 am
    …..Who knows, perhaps they could even be helped if caught at a young enough age. How far are we from a non-intrusive method of scanning a person from a distance to determine whether he is a sociopath?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It isn’t going to work because the elite are already in control and tightening the noose. Any method of that type would just be used to make us more docile. Heck they are ALREADY using a similar method designed to wipe out any leaders that might arise in the next generation.

    Somewhere I read ( Carroll Quigley?) that sometimes one of the elite would have an attack of conscience but it is only momentary and they move on. If you have ever dealt with them, they make Obama’s much touted ‘Racism’ look like love and brotherhood between blacks and whites. They literally do not see ‘The Great Unwashed’ as human only as pawns to be manipulated. The think of us as plantation owners thought of slaves 250 years ago.

    (I have stripped the h.t.t.p//: from the links and added () to keep wordpress from ‘fixing’ them.)
    Please note that SCHOOLS with their tame doctors will put the child on Ritalin WITHOUT parental permission and then go after the parents if they try to remove the drug from the child.
    NY Court Orders Use Of Ritalin On Child
    “Some public schools are accusing parents of child abuse when they balk at giving their kids drugs such as Ritalin, and as judges begin to agree, some parents are medicating their children for fear of having them hauled away….”
    (rense.com/general3/child.htm )

    Albany County Child Protective Services, alleging child abuse when the Carrolls said they wanted to take Kyle off the drug. As a result, the Carrolls are now on a statewide list of alleged child abusers… (breggin.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=81 )

    Death from Ritalin: The Truth Behind ADHD
    (www.ritalindeath.com/ )

    Violence in Schools? It’s the Prozac and Ritalin Stupid!
    By: William Wong ND, Ph.D., Member World Sports Medicine Hall of Fame.
    (http://www.totalityofbeing.com/FramelessPages/Articles/violence.html )

    The Drugging of Our Children
    (familyrightsassociation.com/bin/white_papers-articles/drugging_our_children/ )

    The Real Suicide Data from the TADS (Treatment for Adolescents with Depression Study ) Comes to Light:….the real suicide data was hidden about suicide and Prozac. (This is the same type of data manipulation used to lie to the public about CAGW)
    (www.madinamerica.com/2012/02/the-real-suicide-data-from-the-tads-study-comes-to-light/ )

    Peer-reviewed paper: ADHD among American Schoolchildren
    Evidence of Overdiagnosis and Overuse of Medication

    …Over the last three decades the rate of drug treatment for behavior problems has increased exponentially, culminating in the prescription of ADHD drug treatment for at least 5 to 6 million American children annually (Diller, 1998; Sinha, 2001). The high rate of prescription for Ritalin and expensive brand-name drugs such as Adderall, Concerta, and Metadate…. The unprecedented levels of drug treatment for child behavior problems justify closer public and professional scrutiny….

    …Such reporting is important (in addition to reporting by age groups) because prevalence and treatment have been documented to vary by all three factors, with the highest rate of ADHD among 6- to 9-year-old white boys (LeFever et al., 1999; Safer & Zito, 1999; Safer et al., 1996). Safer (1999) has presented, although not published, data indicating that from the early to mid-1990s the rate of ADHD treatment (i.e., school-administered Ritalin) among white boys in Baltimore County elementary schools was over 15%…..
    …Rates of Ritalin distribution can be divided into quartile ranges such that 1st quartile reflects relatively high-use regions, the 2nd and 3rd quartiles reflect moderate-use regions, and the 4th quartile reflects low-use regions. As such, Virginia is a high-use state, North Carolina a moderate-use state, and Utah a low-use state. This corresponds to the fact that epidemiologic studies suggest that regional ADHD drug treatment rates among elementary students are as high as 17% in Virginia (high-use state), 7% to 10% in North Carolina (moderate-use state), and 3% in Utah (low-use state)….
    (www.srmhp.org/0201/adhd.html )

    Gifted or ADD?

    Parents, if your child seems bright then please, please, PLEASE have a qualified psychologist evaluate him or her for giftedness BEFORE you accept a diagnosis of ADD and medication.

    Gifted children and adults are at high risk for being identified as ADD. Most people, including most medical professionals, do not realize giftedness is often associated with the following behaviors: [They realize but uniformity and team players is more important to the left than the high achievers/individualists whom they hate.]
    underachieving
    anger and frustration
    high energy, intensity, fidgeting, impulsivity
    individualistic, nonconforming, stubborn
    disorganization, sloppy, poor handwriting
    forgetful, absentminded, daydreams
    emotional, moody
    low interest in details
    [In Jr high school I witnessed several problem boys from grade school, transformed when transfered into the ‘A’ group and mentally challenged. This was in the sixties in Westchester NY, near the Rockefeller’s Estate, so this was well known to the elite. ]
    Moreover, sometimes adults do not realize a child is gifted because they don’t really know what “gifted” means. Or they may believe a child is both ADD and gifted. As a result, many gifted children these days are being medicated for a brain defect they probably don’t have.

    Most people have an incorrect view of gifted children and adults….Many others, however, act out and space out in boring school settings, and their increasing anger and frustration may lead to oppositional behavior and underachievement. They may have sloppy handwriting because of fast thought processes, miss details, and be unorganized and forgetful. Gifted adults are not always easy to spot, either. They are housewives, teachers, and carpenters, and they may not even realize they are gifted. Some even believe they are stupid.

    There is some evidence that as many as half of all kids with IQs above 130 get below average grades, and in one study 13% of high school drop outs were gifted. In another study, a full 25% of children diagnosed with ADHD tested so high in creativity tests they qualified for state scholarships. I recently spoke with a consultant for the gifted who said about half of the gifted boys referred to her had been told they were probably ADD. Complicating matters is the uneven types of intelligence many people have. People labeled ADD often have a “visual/spatial” type of intelligence that confuses many teachers and parents. They might have trouble reading or spelling but have outstanding abstract reasoning abilities and become bored very quickly in traditional schools.

    Proponents of the gifted assert that it is usually problems with the school environment that are to blame for behavior problems and underachievement, not any problem with the child. You will not hear this from school officials or most psychiatrists, however….
    (borntoexplore.org/gifted.htm )

  159. adolfogiurfa says:

    REMARKABLE!: THE MYTH OF SETTLED SCIENCE:

  160. Jason Calley says:

    @ Gail Combs You make good points about ritalin, ADHD and gifted children. As a grandparent, it is a subject I have looked in to and I agree with your thoughts. None of my grandkids are “neuro-typical” — and that is a good thing! I plan on doing all I can to keep them from becoming merely average.

  161. CompuGator says:

    jim2 says (6 August 2013 at 12:06 am):

    @CompuGator says: 4 August 2013 at 4:06 pm

    [It’s economic treason, pure and simple.]

    When I was a chemist, that profession was watered down with H1Bs before the chemical industry pulled up stakes and moved to the Middle East and elsewhere. I’ve had my job taken over by Indian Indians, most of which didn’t even live in the US [….]. I think I understand the H1B thing well enough.

    I was misled by your use of words that nowadays signify future tense in English.

    I hadn’t been aware of the impact on professionals in the physical sciences, where I’d assumed that you would’ve been insulated from off-shoring and other, um, remote-contracting trends by a need to keep your eyes & hands in a physical laboratory.

    jim2 says (as linked above):

    Hey CG, don’t have a stroke. [….]

    What, me worry? The biomedical industry trumpets technical advances that increase our life-spans, with the perverse result that 1 well-seasoned generation–and counting–of highly intelligent & technically-trained people is being professionally discarded on financial pretexts, while there’s so many more years of problem-solving potential left in their collectively energetic minds than ever before.

  162. jim2 says:

    @CompuGator says:
    7 August 2013 at 2:13 am

    I am remiss, CG. For the chemicals industry, the stateside effect was the shipping in of H1Bs. The chem industry later migrated to shores which produced cheaper raw materials.

    The job taken over by Indians, 3 of them to replace little ole me, was a programming job after I jumped the chemistry ship for the IT one.

    I get too hurried for my own good sometimes. Work, the old house, family … it takes its toll in time.

  163. p.g.sharrow says:

    820 feet long “destroyer”

    “YOKOHAMA, Japan – Japan on Tuesday unveiled its biggest warship since World War II, a huge flat-top destroyer that has raised eyebrows in China and elsewhere because it bears a strong resemblance to a conventional aircraft carrier.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/08/06/japan-unveils-new-carrier-like-warship-largest-in-its-navy-since-world-war-ii/?test=latestnews#ixzz2bFd0C1lh

    certainly looks like a “baby flattop” to me. pg

  164. Gail Combs says:

    CompuGator says: @ 7 August 2013 at 2:13 am

    …..What, me worry? The biomedical industry trumpets technical advances that increase our life-spans, with the perverse result that 1 well-seasoned generation–and counting–of highly intelligent & technically-trained people is being professionally discarded on financial pretexts, while there’s so many more years of problem-solving potential left in their collectively energetic minds than ever before….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Which is backfiring on the elite. As older folks are forced into early retirement they become more active in their churches and turn their energies to politics. Look at WUWT or the ‘Tea Party’

    From a Democratic Think Tank, the Blair Center/ Winthrop Rockefeller Institute poll.

    … Tea Party members are more likely to attend church MORE than once a week. There is a distinct gender gap within the party with 57.8% of Tea Party members being male, while 42.2% are female. Almost two-thirds (63.2%) or Tea Party members are over the age of 45.

    Nearly half of Tea Party members (49.9%) are middle class, with an annual household income of 40 to 100K, another 13.9% make over 100K. Tea Party members are less likely to fall below the poverty level than Non-Tea Party members. The majority (65.3%) of Tea Party members have some college training, with 27.5 % having earned a Bachelor’s Degree or higher (Figure 2)….

    …Tea Party Members report voting in record numbers during the 2010 mid-term elections. Specifically, 87.6 % of Tea Party members voted in 2010 for a candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives as compared to 59.3% of Non-Tea Party members. …This mass turnout among Tea Party members may account for the substantial media coverage that this relatively small movement has experienced. A second contributing factor may be the political knowledge demonstrated by Tea Party supporters. When asked a battery of “political sophistication” questions—factual questions about the contemporary government—Tea Party members outperformed Non-Tea Party members repeatedly…. Finally, Tea Party Members share a pessimistic view of the future. 36.9% of Tea Party members think their personal situations will get worse or much worse in the next year, as compared to 23.6% of Non-Tea Party members…. And 62.1% of Tea Party members think the country will get worse or much worse in the next year, as compared to 38.8% of Non-Tea Party members (Table 1)….

    Tea Party Distinguished by Racial Views and Fear of the Future

    The label ‘Racial Views” is based on these poll questions.

    TABLE 2. DIFFERENCES BETWEEN TEA PARTY WHITES & NON-TEA PARTY WHITES NATIONWIDE
    Do you think it is the responsibility of the federal government to make sure that minorities have job equality with Whites, even if it means you will have to pay more taxes?(not the responsibility of the federal government) (84.5% T.P) (66.9% non-T.P.)

    Do you think it is the responsibility of the federal government to make sure that minorities have schools equal in quality to Whites, even if it means you have to pay more taxes? (not the responsibility of the federal government) 69.3% 46.2%

    Do you think it is the responsibility of the federal government to make sure that minorities have housing equal in quality to Whites, even if it means you have to pay more taxes? (not the responsibility of the federal government) 83.0% 63.4%

    Do you think it is the responsibility of the federal government to make sure that minorities have health care services equal to Whites, even if it means you have to pay more taxes? (not the responsibility of the federal government) 81.4% 53.2%

    Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: We have gone too far in pushing equal rights in this country? (strongly agree or agree) 62.8% 39.4%

    Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: Our society should do whatever is necessary to make sure that everyone has an equal opportunity to succeed. (strongly disagree or disagree) 30.7% 12.3%

    Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as President? (strongly disapprove) 69.3% 19.0%

    Thinking about Barack Obama’s religious beliefs… Do you happen to know what Barack Obama’s religion is? (Christian) 31.5% 49.4%

    Thinking about Barack Obama’s religious beliefs… Do you happen to know what Barack Obama’s religion is? (Muslim) 38.8% 16.7%
    Number of observations = 2469

    Most of these answers have to do with Tea Party members views that the the federal government overstepping its Constitutional authority and have nothing to do with racisms. Not one question actually has anything to do with a person’s views on racism.

    Prior to the mudslinging a better question would have been would you vote for
    Herman Cain
    Obama
    Mitt Romney

    Herman Cain Vs. Mitt Romney – The TEA Party Versus the Republican Establishment

    Some radio talk show host asks the question, “Why is Herman Cain surging in the polls?” Let me explain you why in just one word: ROMNEY! Romney is why Herman Cain is up in the polls! It’s because the Republican Establishment prefers Mitt Romney, that the average conservative supports Cain. All of the big money is behind Mitt Romney….

    It feels like déjà vu all over again. It’s like these Republican elites just want to shove another phony conservative, RINO Republican, like John McCain down our throats again! There is an epic battle brewing this year and the next between the Tea Party and the Republican Establishment! …

    So Cain had to be taken down to continue the fiction that the Tea Party/Republicans are Racist White Dudes.

    This is why George Zimmerman was sacrificed on the alter of politics by Obama Democrats too. With luck the Zimmerman fiasco will back fire in the face of the Democrats as the Hispanics figure out the ‘Lets you and he fight’ mentality of the democrats. Also Hillary Clinton is slated to be our next president but I think the Benghazi fiasco will kill her bid especially as Congress drags the investigation out.

    (I am not Tea party or Republican BTW, I am a GDI.)

  165. Gail Combs says:

    BTW compare the Tea Party voters to the Democratic Voting Base:

    The Downfall of Detroit: It took only six decades of “progressive” policies to bring a great city to its knees. By Mark Steyn

    ….In my book After America, I observe that the physical decay of Detroit — the vacant and derelict lots for block after block after block — is as nothing compared to the decay of the city’s human capital. Forty-seven percent of adults are functionally illiterate, which is about the same rate as the Central African Republic, which at least has the excuse that it was ruled throughout the Seventies by a cannibal emperor. Why would any genuine innovator open a business in a Detroit “innovation hub”? Whom would you employ? The illiterates include a recent president of the school board, Otis Mathis, which doesn’t bode well for the potential work force a decade hence…..

    That is why they need ‘Community Organizers’ to get out the vote to keep the welfare payments rolling and the Political Machine in office. /snark

  166. Steve C says:

    Just had a surprise at WattsUp. Where (until earlier today) there used to be comments, I got a message that Java had to be enabled to see the comments, then when I enabled Java (muttering curses) I just got a message “Loading comments”, no actual comments. There seems to be more junk than usual down in the NoScript list, too. If this is the result of his “promotion” from WP I’m not impressed, means (presumably) I have to either allow unknown junk to load or stop commenting there. Hell, I’m writing this without even unblocking WordPress … as usual. ;-)

    Anyone know what’s happened? EM – might your more privileged access to WP as a user find some detail?

  167. Steve C says:

    A bit later, and it’s just like it was. Must’ve been a glitch in the Matrix.

  168. LG says:

    A Pointman’s essay:
    http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/why-would-anyone-believe-a-single-word-coming-out-of-their-mouth/

    The regularity with which the skeptic community eviscerates alarmist papers indicates to me that they’re actually more on top of the hard science than the alarmists researchers. In general, the depth of science expertise in the skeptic community is reflected in the technical content of the leading skeptic sites and the quality of the comments, which indicate an unusually high proportion of visitors with some sort of science, engineering or mathematical background; slightly geeky to be frank but the knowledge in other areas extends well beyond those narrow confines.
    In contrast, the alarmist blogosphere doesn’t really do much in the way of hard science content, but rather acts as an uncritical cheerleader and a launchpad for various propaganda initiatives. “That’s what they’re for” was the sneering remark made about them by one of their own high priests in the Climategate emails leak.
    This science lite flavour is reflected in the character of the regular commenters there, who’re more like politically chic activists seeking some type of scientific authority figure’s validation of their belief system and sometimes exhibit an unquestioning acceptance coupled with an appalling ignorance of even the most basic principles of science. They’re more of an arty rather than sciency crowd, perhaps because they mistakenly assume art is somehow a less demanding discipline than science. Fittingly enough, any time I’ve seen them trying to put art at the service of the cause, it’s been truly dreadful.
    This knowledge weak audience demographic is reinforced by the ferociously intolerant moderation policies, which tend to shunt the enquiring or technically minded visitors of an undecided persuasion over to the skeptical sites. What can one say except thank you for all those quality recruits you’ve driven in our direction in the last few years. We have the wherewithal to persuade an open mind, rather than just demand their blind compliance. One volunteer is worth ten browbeaten conscripts.
    There is a tacit admission of this difference in the level of expertise between the two communities by the alarmist retreat from provocative hard science papers, which run the risk of being shredded by the skeptics, and a new vogue of papers based on polls and other essentially subjective metrics, which yield the requisite propaganda headlines but can safely be argued over to no definitive conclusion ad nauseam. They’re more metaphysics than science and they all tend to revolve around the novel idea of scientific proof by consensus.

  169. Gail Combs says:

    LG says: @ 10 August 2013 at 4:42 am

    A Pointman’s essay:
    http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/why-would-anyone-believe-a-single-word-coming-out-of-their-mouth/
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I would have to agree with Pointman. After WUWT, JoNova, here and other skeptic sites, I can’t stand more than a few minutes reading the drivel (or is that drool) Most of it seems to be ad hominem. Say anything that is not part of the official party line and you get mobbed by the name callers. No intelligent discussion of the points just playground bullies attacking.

  170. adolfogiurfa says:

    @punmaster Local Elites were substituted by THE elite, as planned by the “Sages of Zion”, using “land reform” and other procedures to attain it. Local land lords were replaced by butlers and maidens paid by an international level of higher butlers and maidens (through, for example, the “Club of Rome” and others) in direct contact with the actual rulers.

  171. Steve C says:

    EM – Re your overheating your (semi-)multicore processor as it struggled with big numbers, here’s the sort of thing that happens once the virtual coins are in use, from the BBC no less:
    “Bitcoins at risk of theft on flawed Android apps”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23664743

    You mean, people leave something valuable somewhere, other people try to steal it? Now there’s a surprise …

  172. Gail Combs says:

    I am getting “Sorry this can not be posted” So I am going to try here.

  173. Gail Combs says:

    I am only half awake. I needed to hit refresh before the comment posted. Like I said I am ‘Computer challenged’

  174. Gail Combs says:

    Someone posted this intriguing article at WUWT: http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/123844859.html

  175. adolfogiurfa says:

    @E.M. There are quite new issues for you intellect to decipher for us. Come back buddy!

  176. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Gail Combs: Things now are a little more complicated and “interesting” than that:

  177. CompuGator says:

    Gail Combs says (14 August 2013 at 4:15 pm)
    Plowed Fields [Re: Experiments in Mobility and Anonymity]:

    I do the plowed field bit because I have found it necessary to back up what I am trying to say with facts preferably from peer-reviewed papers or other ‘Authorities’ […]. I am also normally trying to [or] connecting a long series of dots. If I just provide a link, it doesn’t get read or if it does people do not see the nugget I found. BTDT and it flopped. It does make the communication a bit of a problem and my posts long.

    It seems to me that there’s more functionality that ought to be able to be squeezed out of the Ted Nelson/Tim Berners-Lee hypertext model that dominates the World-Wide Web.

    Some simple changes could be effective, like undoing the pervasive early conclusion that there was little-to-no value in classifying links; that conclusion deprived software of opportunities for useful organization and activity. It might be straightforward to have revitalized software smooth over the furrows in the field, or stow encountered links for some useful handling then or later. After 20 years, we’re still largely limited to “click on it”–or not.

    Not that there would necessarily be any solutions to keeping visitors from stepping into the droppings of the yoked oxen. I suspect that there was once software marketed in the “brainstorming” category, overlooked & abandoned a decade or more ago, that might be worth revisiting. Useful concepts & features that’d been limited by the technology of their times might nowadays be much easier to implement in a modern browser.

    But developing modest mechanisms to assisting our brains to overcome their shortcomings ain’t where hypertext is being pushed. Alas, it seems that the next big thing: HTML5, is being focused on making “content” require less brainpower to “consume” (i.e.: spend money to obtain, preferably without any of the rights of personal ownership).

    Note *: Much of which might’ve unknowingly duplicated, or been consciously inspired by, Doug Englebart’s office-automation work, which predated mass-market personal computers. Uh, oh! Looks like I’ll need to provide some links, pronto.

  178. CompuGator says:

    There should’ve been ‘blockquote‘ and ‘/blockquote
    enclosing Gail’s own words in my posting immediately above:

    I do the plowed [….] posts long.

    Thus the gut feeling I had, that I was overlooking something.

    And my words “a decade or more ago” should’ve been followed by the footnote-marker “[*]”.

    Dang WordPress’s lack of a ‘preview’ feature!

  179. Gail Combs says:

    CompuGator, I am still stuck with quoting at least a paragraph or two from decent sources to show I am not making stuff up out of whole cloth.

  180. P.G.Sharrow says:

    @Gail Combs; all the needed tools are included in WordPress Blog tools. Set up your own blog. It’s free and not difficult. The GUI will let you see use of hypertext as well as “What you See is What you Get”
    Handy for us old dogs. ;-) pg

  181. adolfogiurfa says:

    @P.G.: That was a good one: Old dogs! :-)

  182. Steve C says:

    @Gail Combs: If you elect to take up PG’s suggestion, I’d like to suggest a name for it (which I won’t put here as someone else would steal it). EM has my full permission to pass you my email address.

    (Oh, for a blog host with private messaging … it’d be done already. ;-)

  183. Gail Combs says:

    P.G.Sharrow says: …..Set up your own blog.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Not interested.

    First, There are already too many good blogs out there so why take traffic away from Chiefio or WUWT, Jo Nova or the others? Also a link to a blog, even if it is talking about a scientific paper does not have the ‘Clout’ the actual paper does although I do some times connect to http://theinconvenientskeptic.com/2012/04/norway-experiencing-greatest-glacial-activity-in-the-past-1000-year/ or http://motls.blogspot.com/2010/07/in-defense-of-milankovitch-by-gerard.html or here.

    Second, people are lazy. They are much more likely to read a couple paragraphs than to read several pages of scientific Bafflegab.

    Third we have a website for the business and that is enough presence on the internet. NSA Violated Privacy Rules 2,776 Times In One Year, that is once every 3 hours around the clock every day for a year. Call me a chicken but I rather not have the Big Boot find me and it does happen.

    This URL no longer works but this is what happened to one person who got in the way of the US Bureaucracy.

    NAIS Supporters Fighting Dirty

    Since it is apparent that some of you think our government agencies are above board, let me share a story of my recent experience.

    I have been heavily involved with the anti-NAIS movement since March of 2005. I have done literally thousands of hours of research – including obtaining hundreds of pages of government documents via the Freedom of Information Act. I researched both sides of this issue as objectively as I could, including interviewing people who are experts in the field of RFID (radio frequency ID) and computer technology. The more I researched, the more I became adamantly opposed to this system.

    I wrote several articles on the subject of NAIS and horses, which have been published in a variety of places. I have also written several educational flyers, brochures and a power point presentation for seminars/meetings on this subject for the anti-NAIS movement. My power point presentation has been used by groups all across the USA at NAIS informational meetings.

    And so, my name became *known* to the USDA and my State Dept of Agriculture. And here is where you will see just how far they will go to prevent the ‘other side’ from being heard

    I purchased vendor space at a recent Horse Expo in my state. The purpose (clearly spelled out to the expo organizers) was three fold: to promote the Hackney Horse, to market my hay (income) and to provide information for horse owners on NAIS. All was fine until my State Dept of Agriculture found out that I would be there as they had purchased vendor space as well. They succeeded in having me banned from the expo because I would be a ‘negative influence’!

    After a week of deliberation and consultation with 3 attorneys (who are also anti-NAIS activists), the decision was made to contact the American Civil Liberties Union. I never had much use for the ACLU before but their purpose IS to protect our constitutional right[s] and this was clearly a violation of my first amendment right to freedom of speech. Think about it, political candidates are allowed to tell their side of any issue so why should I not be allowed to tell mine? The ACLU took my case – the first one in the USA involving NAIS – and went after my State Dept of Ag.

    My State Dept of Ag vehemently denied any wrongdoing. They turfed it all on the shoulders of the expo organizers, claiming that they simply asked that they be moved to another location in the expo away from me.

    Technically it should have stopped there, as the ACLU does not normally go after a private corporation in matters like this. But the ACLU believed the whole story ‘stunk of censorship’ and did not buy the State Dept of Ag’s excuse. They then had conversations with the expo organizers and a very interesting story emerged in where even names were named from my State Dept of Ag. They informed the expo organizers that I had been at a huge Farm Expo last August (Untrue as I working). They claimed that I harassed people, was rude and obnoxious and had even caused a riot to break out over NAIS! They also stated that they were ‘in fear of being on the same grounds’ as me for fear that I would cause another riot. Of course the expo organizers made the decision to ban me. Who wouldn’t after hearing such a story from a govt agency? My first reaction was to laugh over this absolutely ridiculous ‘story’ then I really got angry. I was NOT at said Farm Expo but I did know people who attended. NO riot broke out!

    My State Dept of Ag also provided the expo organizers with numerous e-mails that I had written about NAIS – going back an entire year. I saw these e-mails from our State Dept of Ag with my own eyes. It was then that I realized they are actually tracking me on the internet.

    To make a long story short, the expo organizers were convinced by the ACLU that it was in their best interest to allow me back in…..

    This happened YEARS BEFORE 9/11 and the Patriot Act! Years before Obummer took office. ( I just looked and I can find reference to the article on May 26, 2009.)

    Many years ago NAIS was my introduction to how sleazy our government really is. CAGW was my ‘second cause’ and between the two I started looking for the root of the ‘Evil’ and found the Fabians/Milner Round Tables/Bildebergers/Agenda 21….. In a word GREED for wealth and power. Quelle surprise!

  184. adolfogiurfa says:

    The Brown Dwarf is already here:

  185. Gail Combs says:

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/08/15/uk-brazil-coffee-wheat-idUKBRE97E0JG20130815
    SAO PAULO | Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:04pm BST
    July frosts reduce Brazil wheat, coffee output – state
    Parana, one of Brazil’s top two wheat-producing states, will lose 33 percent of its current wheat crop that is maturing in the field, bringing current expected output to 1.9 million tonnes, farm secretary’s statistics coordinator Carlos Winckler Godinho told Reuters. Parana is a minor coffee-growing state.

    A new cold front that is likely to create frost again over Brazil’s southern wheat crop was settling in over Parana on Wednesday, with temperatures likely to drop near freezing early Thursday morning. That could cause more losses to the crop.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/july-frosts-reduce-brazil-wheat-120404387.html
    ReutersReuters – 23 hours ago
    Godinho also said that 62 percent of next year’s coffee crop would be lost due to the frosts that hit the state’s farms in late July. That is roughly equivalent to 1 million 60-kg bags of potential from next year’s crop.

    The Arctic temperature has been below normal all summer too and has now dropped below freezing.
    http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

    Can you say OH Sh!T.

  186. sabretoothed says:

  187. CompuGator says:

    Gail Combs says (17 August 2013 at 3:12 am):

    A new cold front that is likely to create frost again over Brazil’s southern wheat crop was settling in over Parana on Wednesday, with temperatures likely to drop near freezing early Thursday morning.

    It’s their winter!

    Should it really be considered all that unthinkable that a state in Brazil whose southernmost point is at the latitude opposite to the northern border of Charlotte County (e.g.: Punta Gorda, Fla., or the center of Lake Okeechobee) could suffer a frost in their equivalent to February in the opposite hemisphere?

    It’s that sort of event that’s responsible for my Orange County having lost its commercial citrus groves (unlike in the Yankee states, Florida’s county was not named after the House of Orange of the Netherlands).

    Now if the wheat is planted near the northern border of Parana, which is near 22½°S., thus inside the Tropic of Capricorn, at a latitude more tropical than Havana (23°N., Cuba), perhaps that should be much more of a surprise. Except that the climate of Florida and the Caribbean islands is substantially moderated by the Gulf, Ocean, or Sea full of saltwater that surrounds them.

    How much is winter weather in Parana moderated by southeasterly trade winds? Or by anything else, like topography?

  188. Gail Combs says:

    CompuGator says: @ 17 August 2013 at 6:18 pm

    Gail Combs says (17 August 2013 at 3:12 am):

    A new cold front that is likely to create frost again over Brazil’s southern wheat crop was settling in over Parana on Wednesday, with temperatures likely to drop near freezing early Thursday morning.

    It’s their winter!

    Should it really be considered all that unthinkable
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No but it is a bit unusual especially since the story says the coffee crop is also lost and they are getting hit with ANOTHER frost that will cause more crop losses.

    Late-July frosts that fell on Brazil’s south caused significant losses to this season’s wheat and next year’s coffee crops, the farm secretary of Parana said on Wednesday.

    Parana, one of Brazil’s top two wheat-producing states, will lose 33 percent of its current wheat crop that is maturing in the field…

    Godinho also said that 62 percent of next year’s coffee crop would be lost due to the frosts that hit the state’s farms in late July….

    A new cold front that is likely to create frost again over Brazil’s southern wheat crop was settling in over Parana on Wednesday, with temperatures likely to drop near freezing early Thursday morning. That could cause more losses to the crop….

    And Ontario has lost there crop of sweet corn and China had snow in Xinjiang
    http://www.sott.net/article/265013-Rare-summer-snowfall-in-Xinjiang

    The Ontario Federation of Agriculture admits sweet corn is not ripening on time

    Heck we are seeing the third day in a row with temperatures in the 60sF in mid North Carolina in the middle of the day in the middle of AUGUST. It has barely reached a high of 70F and yesterday it didn’t even get out of the 60s!

    A record? No darn unusual? Yes. We are used to temperatures in the high 80s or 90s this time of year .

  189. CompuGator says:

    Gail Combs says (17 August 2013 at 8:49 pm):

    Heck we are seeing the third day in a row with temperatures in the 60sF in mid North Carolina

    Would you be willing to disclose the name of your county, so I might correlate it to your state’s topography & climatic regions?

    […] in the middle of the day in the middle of AUGUST. It has barely reached a high of 70F and yesterday it didn’t even get out of the 60s! [….] darn unusual? Yes. We are used to temperatures in the high 80s or 90s this time of year.

    Then light a fire under the Carolinas-tourism organizations, and get them to put up billboards along the commuter freeways & tollways from central to South Florida:

    “Tired of being overrun by uppity D@#n Yankee tourists, and having your local taxes given away as corporate welfare for sports teams, while your local rulers cry crocodile tears about allegedly insufficient tax revenue to avoid changing freeways, whose construction & expansion over decades was paid for with your taxes, into toll roads at even greater cost for toll infrastructure, as you strive not to explode in 90-something°F heat, that only cools overnight to a trifle below 80°F during the dog days of summer?

    Whoa! You seriously need a vacation! And we know just the place: Visit the refreshingly cool Carolinas!  Where we haven’t forgotten Southern hospitality. And did we mention how COOL our summer is up here this year?”

    (Marketing slogan (c)CompuGator 2013, who’d visit the Carolinas himself, pronto, if only his budget allowed it.)

  190. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Omanuel: Your negative forecasts:

  191. Ralph B says:

    Go to WUWT and check out the sea ice ref page. http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/ The mean temp above 80 deg N sure is dropping early. It should plateau soon as the ice starts forming and releasing all that latent heat. Did you see the headlines featuring the news about record cold?

  192. adolfogiurfa says:

    @R. de Haan: They KNOW their game is over….the NW O is now the NW D (New World Disorder) :-)

  193. adolfogiurfa says:

    This last comment did not pass through in Experiments…page

  194. jim2 says:

    Worse than 1984 … because it’s real.
    “Forced Exposure ~pj
    Tuesday, August 20 2013 @ 02:40 AM EDT

    The owner of Lavabit tells us that he’s stopped using email and if we knew what he knew, we’d stop too.

    There is no way to do Groklaw without email. Therein lies the conundrum.

    What to do?

    What to do? I’ve spent the last couple of weeks trying to figure it out. And the conclusion I’ve reached is that there is no way to continue doing Groklaw, not long term, which is incredibly sad. But it’s good to be realistic. And the simple truth is, no matter how good the motives might be for collecting and screening everything we say to one another, and no matter how “clean” we all are ourselves from the standpoint of the screeners, I don’t know how to function in such an atmosphere. I don’t know how to do Groklaw like this.”

    ” If you have to stay on the Internet, my research indicates that the short term safety from surveillance, to the degree that is even possible, is to use a service like Kolab for email, which is located in Switzerland, and hence is under different laws than the US, laws which attempt to afford more privacy to citizens. I have now gotten for myself an email there, p.jones at mykolab.com in case anyone wishes to contact me over something really important and feels squeamish about writing to an email address on a server in the US. But both emails still work. It’s your choice.

    My personal decision is to get off of the Internet to the degree it’s possible. I’m just an ordinary person. But I really know, after all my research and some serious thinking things through, that I can’t stay online personally without losing my humanness, now that I know that ensuring privacy online is impossible. I find myself unable to write. I’ve always been a private person. That’s why I never wanted to be a celebrity and why I fought hard to maintain both my privacy and yours.

    Oddly, if everyone did that, leap off the Internet, the world’s economy would collapse, I suppose. I can’t really hope for that. But for me, the Internet is over.

    So this is the last Groklaw article. I won’t turn on comments. Thank you for all you’ve done. I will never forget you and our work together. I hope you’ll remember me too. I’m sorry I can’t overcome these feelings, but I yam what I yam, and I tried, but I can’t.

    http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175

  195. jim2 says:

    The end of Lavabit …

    http://lavabit.com/

  196. p.g.sharrow says:

    Hide if you wish. Remember, If you hide They Win. Their whole object is to make independent thinkers hide. The Internet is a double edged sword that cuts both ways. Use it or lose the argument. pg

  197. Ralph B says:

    Just read this article about people 6000 years ago used spices. The researches were surprised, thinking people only ate for calories. Why on earth would they think that? Has the tongue changed? No…its just the typical thought that ancients were extremely dull hyper religious primates. I don’t know why this specific article chapped my hide more than others…

    http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2013/08/ancient-pottery-fragments-show-that-prehistoric-humans-used-spices-too/

  198. adolfogiurfa says:

    @Ralph B That shows that the real primates live in present times …

  199. Steve C says:

    @Ralph B – I really can’t see why the researchers were surprised. Surely the traditional explanation of the use of spices is that they help to mask the taste of borderline-“off” food, which you’d have thought would be a more common problem in those long-gone, non-refrigerator-using times than it is now.

    Of course, when unreliable “green” energy sources start crashing the public electricity supply and ruining the food in our fridges … :-(

  200. Another Ian says:

    Steve C.

    Not that long ago either

    My father had a story of the fate of passengers on a horse-drawn local mail run – in the pre-coldbox days.

    It left town on Monday morning. By Wednesday night passengers were treated to dinner without lights.

    Puts a whole new perspective on dinner by candle light IMO

  201. Ralph B says:

    OK I am going out on a limb here…I know so many people out there are waiting for this…I am going to say the arctic melt season is effectively over and will coast at this area for a week maybe then on head on up.
    If I am wrong the Krispy Kremes are on me. Hows that for putting your money where your mouth is? You heard it here first.

  202. J Martin says:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/

    Looks more like a twig to me, unless you’re learning Danish.

  203. adolfogiurfa says:

    A T13 needed….But will it be a good number….just in these days you know :-)

  204. Gail Combs says:

    adolfogiurfa says: They KNOW their game is over….the NW O is now the NW D (New World Disorder) :-)
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    That calls for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZlFBSRrSR0

  205. Gail Combs says:

    p.g.sharrow says:
    Hide if you wish. Remember, If you hide They Win….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I agree. They can only take full control if we let them.

    An interesting article I just ran across at Forbes: Financial Repression Making Serfs of the Masses

  206. Gail Combs says:

    sabretoothed says: Fat (Sugar)
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One problem. I do not want the government regulating what I eat. That is how we got into the obesity mess in the first place. (No raw milk, milk bad for you so feed the kids soda, ADM gets government to subsidize corn so sugar is more expensive and we end up with High Fructose Corn syrup in everything. Woman’s lib/Equal rights (Backed by the bankers who wanted two serfs per houshold) took Mom out of the kitchen so you can kiss home cooking god buy….

  207. adolfogiurfa says:

    THE LAST WAKE UP CALL:

  208. adolfogiurfa says:

    THE LAST WAKE UP CALL part II:

  209. adolfogiurfa says:

    THE LAST WAKE UP CALL, PART 2

  210. R. de Haan says:

    There are so much nice things to do in this amazing world…..
    Like flying a Stemme S10 like this:

  211. R. de Haan says:

    Gail Combs says:
    27 August 2013 at 11:17 pm
    sabretoothed says: Fat (Sugar)
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    One problem. I do not want the government regulating what I eat. That is how we got into the obesity mess in the first place. (No raw milk, milk bad for you so feed the kids soda, ADM gets government to subsidize corn so sugar is more expensive and we end up with High Fructose Corn syrup in everything. Woman’s lib/Equal rights (Backed by the bankers who wanted two serfs per houshold) took Mom out of the kitchen so you can kiss home cooking god buy….”

    This is slowly but surely becoming a hot topic since our food is under the subject of completely insane international legislation. How insane? The muppets of the UN a.o. is in a process of declaring our foods a toxin, like they did with CO2.

    Now the Globalist are on the war path again and it is only thanks to opposition of the UK Parliament and a massive lobby from the Russian diplomat Lavrov who has exchanged some very hard words about the lack of proof of the Assad government being responsible for the use of chemical warfare last week.

    Both Putin and hus current vice President Medvedev have drawn a line in the sand to prevent the repeat of the Libya attack by the “willing” that resulted in the murder on Gadaffi and indirectly in the Benghazi attack. Both have claimed they are prepared to go all the way on Syria and Iran if attacked by the US, Israel, France and the UK and with “all the way” they mean the use of nuke’s.

    Last july the Russians together with the Chinese executed the biggest military exercise since the former USSR.

    I am convinced that our political establishment seriously underestimate the current Russian and Chinese capabilities. Russia since the collapse has worked very hard on it’s war industry and today they are the second arms exporter in the world.

    They have developed hypersonic missile systems with the capacity to sink aircraft carriers and despite the Salt Agreements they still have more nuclear war heads that the USA, the UK, France and Israel put together.

    Also worth mentioning is a shoulder fired anti aircraft missile with a warhead that homes in on the exhaust of a plane or helicopter without being affected by any jamming techniques including chaff. This is because the electronics have a memory chip that carries the signature of the exhaust signal. This makes all our aircraft vulnerable, including Air Force One.

    Also worth mentioning is that their industry doesn’t rely of foreign supplies of resources or the import of electronic components from China, Taiwan or Korea which today is the case with the US defense industry.

    Europe in case of an escalating conflict in the Middle is a sitting duck and because the political establishment has reduced it’s defenses to levels unseen since the end of the cold war Russia could regard Europe as an easy target.

    Obama’s foreign policy is a disaster and I have lost all trust in his capabilities. The same goes for Hollande, Cameron and the EU apparatchiks. Fortunately the Russian diplomats know this.

    I personally think the EU is a postponed punishment from the former USSR and I also think Putin has ambitions that are in opposition with the Globalists.

    The same goes for the Chinese.

    While Europe believes Russia is no longer a threat I think they are making a huge mistake.

    What we see today is a war against our own populations and our civilization by our own governments and the UN.

    Just like Snowdon found a new home in Russia, despite great pressure from Obama, it could very well be that one day the Russians could come in to liberate the Europeans from the fascists that now run the EU.

    I never ever thought I would write something like this but the realization that the West is currently ruled by thugs and criminals who openly undermine our great civilization, without any serious opposition, makes me wonder what will happen if the big economic crash arrives.
    We will be subject to a huge state suppression system, not only in Europe but also in the EU.

    All the regulations and all the precautionary measures, currently introduced, from drones to full fledged data collection and heavily armored police units, have been taken by the establishment to control our population allowing them to remain in power.

    Just the idea we have the Russians resisting the Western establishment and their globalist agenda at least provides some comfort.

    Anyhow I won’t wait for the crash. Any location with nice weather and nice people is fine as long as it’s far away for any of the G8 nations and the EU.

    Preferably a country that is committed tot it’s autonomy because:

    Every Nation has the right to Independence.

  212. adolfogiurfa says:

    @R.de Haan: Marvelous glider!

  213. R. de Haan says:

    adolfogiurfa says:
    29 August 2013 at 5:28 pm
    @R.de Haan: Marvelous glider!

    Adolfo, do you want one?

  214. R. de Haan says:

    Obama March on Washington copying King’s preaching style of speech…..calling to “March On”. http://www.politico.com/multimedia/video/2013/08/obama-at-march-on-washington-anniversary-keep-marching.html?ml=vi_2

    Than comes the first posting from John Mitchell:
    We are marching! For your impeachment before you start WWIII, and for Glass-Steagall, and a return to a credit system to fund projects like NAWAPA to rebuild this nations agro/industrial might…

    Hilarious but to the point, just like the words from Cruz to Limbaugh stating Syria and Obama Care tied to gather and that’s the arrogance of this administration that they think they ar not accountable to the people…. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/rush-limbaugh-barack-obama-fast-food-strike-96048.html

    Right, Potus and his administration is behaving like an Adolf, time to go.

  215. R. de Haan says:

    So, you buy this home for 350k in New Jersey. Next the property is raised by 60% and your property is re-valued over a million USD. As a result, your annual property taxes went up to 35k, nobody will buy your house and in the end you loose the place. Now that’s real freedom. http://www.my9nj.com/story/23288092/new-jersey-property-tax-problems

    For that of money you can live on a boat like this, a nice trimaran, and sail wherever you want to go. Now that’s freedom.
    http://www.neel-trimarans.com/en/nos-trimarans/neel-45/

  216. R. de Haan says:

    Small typo, “the property tax is raised by 60%”.

  217. R. de Haan says:

    Just some thoughts about the trimaran, the NEEL 45 I posted earlier.

    These are good times to become a perpetual traveller. Now what’s a better way to be a perpetual traveler sailing the paradises of this world far away from the crazy world that is becoming crazier by the day?

    I love sailing but I hate the bunks you find in most mono hauls, I hate to crawl to get in you bunk and I hate to share your bed with half your luggage, the safety gear and the spare sails.

    But I also love speed.

    The Neel 45 is a total new and i.m.o revolutionary sailing concept.
    It’s a trimaran able to cruise comfortably over 10 knots, covering a distance of 200 nautical miles in 24 hours under low wind conditions, but it flies with double the speed when you get a good tailwind. Because it’s a trimaran it is very stable under any conditions but this ship design is unsinkable and that’s a great asset. What makes this trimaran revolutionary is that the designer used the entire trimaran configuration as a platform. He designed a ufo shaped construction that contains the bridge, the kitchen, a great saloon with panorama view, three big bed roams an two bathrooms all on the same level with big access doors and lot’s of luggage space. No crawling, just a huge comfortable living space. Because trimarans have an extremely low drag you can do with a small diesel engine with low fuel consumption. The engine, the fuel tanks, the freshwater tanks, the grey water tank and the entire electric systems, the battery bank, the wiring all have been stashed under the flat floor, easy to access and with a lot of space to perform maintenance. The catamaran is rigged like the high performance trimarans you find participating the ocean races and you can sail this ship single handedly with no problems. The charter version of the Neel 45 that has been in use for testing this summer only has a captain an a cook aboard and an average of 8-10 guests.

    So the Neel is not only a great place to live but you can also make money with it so you can maintain your household book with a positive balance. Thanks to the internet and a mature charter market that according to the latest economic reports, is on a path of growth, you can easily rent out two rooms to people who want to join you on your trip, see:
    http://www.yachtsys.com/Infographic-What-you-should-know-about-bareboat-yacht-charters.html and http://features.yachtworldcharters.com/2013/04/bareboat-chartering-outlook-hot-catamarans-and-exotic-destinations/

    From the boat charter blogs I know that depending on the season people are willing to pay between 2.500 and 3.500 usd per week for bunks with the high level aboard the Neel 45. The level of comfort is equal to a standard you only find in charter yachts that cost over 1.5 million usd.
    The Neel however is avallable for 450.000 usd. If you can afford a down payment, you can mortgage such a ship just like a home and with 5000 to 7.000 usd rent a week for the two spare bunks you will be able to pay off the mortgage in a very short period of time.

    Another interesting property of a catamaran is that you can beach it during low tide and sail away when the tide rises. This allows you to visit islands and sail shallow waters.
    This Neel 45 is a real adventure machine at a relative low price and I will go to have a look at this boat next month in Cannes (France) where the manufacturer is present at a boat show.

    Making a sailing boat like the Neel your home makes you completely independent in a very flexible way.
    And that’s a kind of freedom that is most appealing to me.

  218. Steve C says:

    Quite an interesting programme on Signs of the Times (SOTT) Talk Radio – “Bitcoin, Gold and the Cashless Society”. (Or at least, this economic semi-literate found it quite interesting! ;-) After a bit on Bitcoins, they go off into money in general, Evil Bastards controlling it, etc., though (warning, EM!) they are *not* financial wizards, just ordinary, economically semi-literate folk worrying about stuff. Transcript on page.
    http://www.sott.net/article/265537-SOTT-Talk-Radio-Bitcoin-Gold-and-the-Cashless-Society

  219. R. de Haan says:

    And while schools are closed in the US because of “the heat”, in Peru 250.000 alcapa’s die from the cold: http://www.peruviantimes.com/28/peru-declares-state-of-emergency-in-puno-as-temperatures-drop/20080/

  220. adolfogiurfa says:

    @R.de Haan: Those Alpacas along with HUMAN CHILDREN and OLD MEN, die here, while the preach on GLOBAL WARMING continues.

  221. P.G.Sharrow says:

    Liberal Progressives live in Air-conditioned Ivory Towers and have no experience in the real world.
    All other creatures upon the Earth KNOW that cold Kills. Heat is merely uncomfortable and inconvenient.
    Life prospers in heat if water is available, in cold the flame of life goes out.
    Cold in Peru in summer! Atmosphere is cooling and the freezing level is lowering, even near the equator.and the solar output is decreasing from a non-maximum maximum. I wonder just how low the “normal” snow line will become over the next 60 years. pg

  222. P.G.Sharrow says:

    Over Many years, Green Peace has demonstrated that they are terrorists in very real terms. They should be labeled and treated as such for their Crimes Against Humanity. As they brag about their efforts and techniques this should not be difficult except that politicians are afraid of them. pg

  223. adolfogiurfa says:

    @P.G. We are in winter in Peru, dear P.G., though close to the equatorial line, Puno is 16ª South. Nevertheless, all andean glaciers are growing against the preach of “Al Baby”

  224. adolfogiurfa says:

    @P.G. The first Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro, guess it was held in 1989, when Ambassador Perez de Cuéllar was the UN secretary general (he is a member of the Club of Rome- a society of first rank butlers for the speculative elite-)…and Maurice Strong his advisor. See? the “apocalypse” it is not a kind of cataclysm but literally, as from the Wiki: (Ancient Greek: ἀποκάλυψις apocálypsis, from ἀπό and καλύπτω meaning ‘un-covering’), translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation
    So we are just watching the NAKED KING before our eyes, and we are able to see their real nature: Not much clever men of superior men: just f* IDIOTS!

  225. adolfogiurfa says:

    typo: read OR instead “of superior…”

  226. R. de Haan says:

    All info about UN Agenda 21 and the Globalist coup with the help of the climate propaganda scheme (and a lot more) at http:green-agende.com

    In the mean time we have a nice article about the bias about the press only reporting “heat events”, droughts. floods and wild fires but no cold events. Also read the reader postings and visit the links.

  227. R. de Haan says:

    An article carried by the BBC is going viral all over Europe, documentaries, other articles, about living babies, mostly girls are dumped on the rubbish heaps in Karachi, Islamabad, Pakistan.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23529448

    Absolutely hopeless.

  228. R. de Haan says:
    I never ever thought I would write something like this but the realization that the West is currently ruled by thugs and criminals who openly undermine our great civilization, without any serious opposition, makes me wonder what will happen if the big economic crash arrives.
    We will be subject to a huge state suppression system, not only in Europe but also in the EU.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    What you are seeing has been well explained in 1911 by Robert Michels (The Iron Law of Oligarchy) several years before the “October Revolution”:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Michels

    Over time all governments become oligarchies. The inverse process (towards pluralism) is a rare phenomenon. When oligarchies are destroyed they are usually replaced by even worse oligarchies as you can easily see by studying the last 100 years in Latin America or the Middle East.

    You are extremely fortunate that the “Founding Fathers” established a pluralistic form of government that has survived for more than 200 years. Will it continue to the end of the 22nd century? Probably not but enjoy it as long as it lasts.

    To understand why nations behave like lemmings, I recommend “Why Nations Fail” by Acemoglu & Robinson.

    To understand what to do when your home nation fails, please read “The Sovereign Individual” by Rees-Mogg & Davidson. Even though most nations fail there will always be a few that don’t.

  229. Rees-Mogg and Davidson explain that when there is something seriously wrong with a jurisdiction (e.g. the USA) people vote with their feet. They leave the jurisdiction. That is why the population of jurisdictions such as Kalifornia and Michigan (especially Detroit) are in decline.

    You hear more and more anti-American propaganda. Yet in spite of a few blighted states such as those mentioned above, our population continues to explode without much help from the fertility of native Americans. People do “Vote With Their Feet” so we have over 11 million illegal immigrants and counting. This country is in decline, yet I know a physician who left Prague to drive a taxi in the USA. His daughter married one of my sons so I have grandaughter who is 50% Czech (beyond cute).

  230. Gail Combs says:

    If you look there is a lot of info on childhood brain development and nutrition that goes against the ‘Politically Correct’ brain washing agenda in the MSM.

    This one says it all – New Scientists: American babies mysteriously shrinking

    Brains of Children with ADHD Show Protein Deficiency
    http://psychcentral.com/lib/brains-of-children-with-adhd-show-protein-deficiency/00013653

    Meat, Cooked Foods Needed for Early Human Brain
    http://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html

    Meat Eating Behind Evolutionary Success of Humankind, Global Population Spread, Study Suggests
    Apr. 20, 2012 — Carnivory is behind the evolutionary success of humankind. When early humans started to eat meat and eventually hunt, their new, higher-quality diet meant that women could wean their children earlier. Women could then give birth to more children during their reproductive life, which is a possible contribution to the population gradually spreading over the world. The connection between eating meat and a faster weaning process is shown by a research group from Lund University in Sweden….

    Learning to hunt was a decisive step in human evolution. Hunting necessitated communication, planning and the use of tools, all of which demanded a larger brain. At the same time, adding meat to the diet made it possible to develop this larger brain.

    “This has been known for a long time. However, no one has previously shown the strong connection between meat eating and the duration of breast-feeding, which is a crucial piece of the puzzle in this context. Eating meat enabled the breast-feeding periods and thereby the time between births, to be shortened. This must have had a crucial impact on human evolution,” says Elia Psouni of Lund University.

    …Carnivores, due to their high quality diet, can wean earlier than herbivores and omnivores.

    The model also shows that humans do not differ from other carnivores with respect to timing of weaning. All carnivorous species, from small animals such as ferrets and raccoons to large ones like panthers, killer whales and humans, have a relatively short breast-feeding period. The difference between us and the great apes, which has puzzled previous researchers, seems to depend merely on the fact that as a species we are carnivores, whereas gorillas, orangutans and chimpanzees are herbivores or omnivores….

    Story Source: The above story is based on materials provided by Lund University.

    Journal Reference:
    Elia Psouni, Axel Janke, Martin Garwicz. Impact of Carnivory on Human Development and Evolution Revealed by a New Unifying Model of Weaning in Mammals. PLoS ONE, 2012; 7 (4): e32452 DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0032452

    5 Brain Nutrients Found Only in Meat, Fish and Eggs (NOT Plants)
    http://authoritynutrition.com/5-brain-nutrients-in-meat-fish-eggs/
    (Contains lots of addition links in the text)

  231. Gail Combs says:

    To add more to the feeding the brain theme and get around Word Press Spam mode:
    Conjugated Linoleic Acid
    http://www.tendergrassfedmeat.com/tag/conjugated-linoleic-acid/

    Role of red meat in the diet for children and adolescents.

    KEY POINTS

    * Optimal nutrition during the first years of life is crucial for optimal growth and development and, possibly, the prevention of chronic disease of adulthood.

    * Iron-deficiency anaemia in childhood and adolescence is associated with serious adverse outcomes that may not be reversible, making detection and early treatment an imperative.

    * Zinc plays a major role in cellular growth.

    * Vitamin A is essential for the functioning of the eyes and the immune system.

    * Vitamin A is necessary for membrane stability, and zinc is essential for mobilisation of the beta-carotene. Vitamin A deficiency contributes to anaemia by immobilising iron in the reticuloendothelial system, reducing haemopoiesis and increasing susceptibility to infections.

    * Like iron, iodine appears to be involved in myelin production and, hence, nerve conduction.

    * Meat is a core food in the diet for children and adolescents because it provides significant amounts of these micronutrients.

    INTRODUCTION

    Over the first few years of postnatal life, an infant’s body undergoes dramatic changes not only in physical attributes, but also in developmental milestones. By three years of age, an infant’s head circumference and hence brain size will have reached 80% of what it will potentially achieve in adulthood, and its length will also have doubled in size. Therefore, it is not surprising that any adverse events occurring during these periods may have a negative impact upon psychomotor development.

    In 1968, Dobbing (1) suggested that there were vulnerable periods of neurological development that coincided with times of maximal brain growth. These periods begin during foetal development at around the 25th week of gestation and continue for the first two years of postnatal life. Nutrient deficiencies occurring during these vulnerable periods may well have an impact upon brain growth and, hence, neurological and psychomotor development.(1) These nutrient deficits have subsequently been shown to result in more functional deficiencies rather than physical abnormalities. Not only is optimal nutrition essential for achieving optimal physical and psychosocial development, but it also appears to have significant disease implications for later in adult life. Barker and his epidemiology group in the UK proposed that not only intrauterine malnutrition, but also poor weight gain in the first year of life, was associated with an increased incidence of cardiovascular disease (particularly in adults aged >50 years), hypertension and glucose intolerance during adulthood. (2) Their retrospective, epidemiological report has been supported by several studies on the Netherlands famine during World War II, which affected women during early, mid and late stages of gestation. (3,4) Subsequently, animal and prospective human studies have suggested that either under- or over-nutrition in utero can be associated with epigenetic changes as well as intrauterine adverse programming of organ function. (5)

    Development of functional activity may be associated with myelination. Many nerve fibres are covered with a whitish, fatty, segmented sheath called the myelin sheath. Myelin protects and electrically insulates fibres from one another and increases the speed of transmission of the nerve impulses. Myelinated fibres conduct nerve impulses rapidly, whereas unmyelinated fibres tend to conduct quite slowly. This acceleration of nerve conduction is essential for the function of the body and survival. In humans, the myelin sheath begins to appear around the fourth month of foetal development and first appears in the spinal cord before spreading to the higher centres of the brain. It is assumed that this myelination precedes functional activity. This paper considers micronutrient deficiency in the context of myelination and other developmental features to highlight the need for micronutrients which can be delivered in the diet through red meat…..

  232. adolfogiurfa says:

    The beginning of the End , watch it before it is banned from Youtube:

  233. R. de Haan says:

    Adolfo, the quakes mentioned in the Netherlands and Poland are both claimed to be related to gas exploration activity, not by opposition groups but by the companies taking out the gas and the Dutch and Polish Geological Services.

    Because of the gas exploration we see a slow sinking of the area end this process triggers this relative mild quakes. This is all (objectively) confirmed by TNO.

    The quake problem is not new and the commercial partners involved have created a fund to compensate home owners for the quake damages to their properties.

    So let’s postpone the beginning of the end. Quakes have been with us as long as the planet exists. We can very well live with it as we have done for thousands of years.
    Besides that, quakes make up an essential part of the process (abiotic) providing with huge amounts of oil and gas thus creating the very basis of our modern society. As long as we have rocks and quakes we will have energy.

    Isn’t life beautiful?

  234. LG says:

    Daily GeoPhysics news, 3-5 min average daily YT reports.

    http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/daily-news/

  235. Zeke says:

    That’s great LG, if you are trying to spread chemtrail anti-fossil fuel manic material by the haarpy all over the internet.

    Chiefio, my theory is that is Jean Manning, featuring haarp, chemtrails, anti-fossil fuel, anti-agriculture fear mongering to an adoring youtube cyberghetto. Please come back.

  236. Zeke says:

    WUWT policy says, “Certain topics are not welcome here and comments concerning them will be deleted. This includes topics on…astrology, aliens, bigfoot, chemtrails, 911 Truthers, Obama’s Birth Certificate, HAARP, UFO’s, Electric Universe, mysticism, and other topics not directly related to the thread.”

    Why do you think that is. Because the Electric Universe is totally beholden to the Haarpy on Youtube for their web traffic. I have been cussed at, moderated, snipped, and banned by this intolerant, rude, aggressive base many times. “Alternative science” turns out to be equally brutal enforcers of their paradigm and underlying ideologies as mainstream science.

    I have concluded that there are no scientists; only men who are madly in love with their own hypothesis, who on occasion turn out to be correct. Then, much like rock stars or Hollywood actors, they become experts on every other subject under the sun.

    I do recommend the Electric Sky, and the website of Donald Scott, for anyone interested in the actual science of the electric sun.

  237. LG says:

    @ Zeke,
    such is not my intent.
    Di-Hydrogen Monoxide is indeed a chemical though :D.
    In the mean time, some more solar resources:
    http://www.helioviewer.org/#
    http://iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov/IswaSystemWebApp/

  238. Zeke says:

    LG says:
    7 September 2013 at 4:31 am “@ Zeke,
    such is not my intent.
    Di-Hydrogen Monoxide is indeed a chemical though :D. “

    Lol (: What about THIS?!
    http://www.atoptics.co.uk/fz816.htm

    I will try very hard to sit on my hands if you post the Haarpy’s website again. I promise. Best behavior.

  239. LG says:

    Kozyrev: on ; Sources of Stellar Energy and the Theory of the Internal
    Constitution of Stars
    http://www.ptep-online.com/index_files/2005/PP-03-11.PDF

    Robitaille: A High Temperature Liquid Plasma Model of the Sun
    http://arxiv.org/html/astro-ph/0410075v2
    http://www.gallup.unm.edu/~smarandache/PP-03-2011.pdf

  240. LG says:

    A quick review of the properties of that pervasive DiHydrogen Monoxide, aka DHMO

    http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/dhmo.htm

    Dihydrogen monoxide:

    is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
    contributes to the “greenhouse effect.”
    may cause severe burns.
    contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
    accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
    may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
    has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
    Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

    as an industrial solvent and coolant.
    in nuclear power plants.
    in the production of styrofoam.
    as a fire retardant.
    in many forms of cruel animal research.
    in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
    as an additive in certain “junk-foods” and other food products.

  241. R. de Haan says:

    gallopingcamel says:
    3 September 2013 at 3:08 am
    Thanks for the comment and the links. I really think the American people should fight for their Constitution although it will bring them in head on confrontation with the current administration and the ruling elites. If current developments in Europe (and the UN) continue, freedom wise we have to start from scratch.

  242. R. de Haan says:

    Zeke and LG, thanks for the links. I will read “Electric Sky” and take a deep dip into the links provided. Appreciate the insight how the scientific community has become the prototype of “consensus” and to see they practice very unscientific means and measures as we see in the defense of the climate consensus. I think “consensus” already proofs to be a dead end street and if we manage to regain our freedoms again (on every level of human society) I see a new dawn for real science and, as it looks now, the end of the AGW and the big bang theory.

  243. p.g.sharrow says:

    The heavily funded and powerfully backed “consensus” science is loosing ground to the unfunded and despised Blogsphere. Real science is being discussed and pursued in spite of the efforts of the controlling Elites. Even collegiate brainwashing is beginning to fail as students question the grasp of the facts by their professors. The Internet is a powerful tool for examining all of the knowledge and opinion available.
    Knowledge is a powerful tool no longer under the control of the Elites. We no longer need them!
    When I was young, (1950s) a teacher remarked to me that, students should be taught, reading, writing, mathematics and how to use a library. After that just turn them lose to learn as they will. He taught me the library catalog system and wow! Who needed school! just let me get into a good library.
    The Internet is just one huge library with a vast bulletin board that connects me to all of the interesting people of the world, WOW!!!.
    Another teacher of that time, told me that, I would have to buy into the Liberal Progressive mantra or I would not be permitted to advance in the intellectual realm. Their controlling grasp of knowledge is failing. We no longer need them.
    “The new age begins when a net covers the world.” old Hopi prophesy.. pg

  244. LG says:

    The SAFIRE Project

  245. adolfogiurfa says:

    See to the right of the Sun, you will see a round dark object: That is the brown dwarf Sun:

  246. Zeke says:

    R de Haan says “I think “consensus” already proofs to be a dead end street and if we manage to regain our freedoms again (on every level of human society) I see a new dawn for real science and, as it looks now, the end of the AGW and the big bang theory.”

    As you posted earlier, it is such a beautiful world and time to be alive, to fly gliders or look at a problem in a completely new way, for example, but so much prefrontal energy and focus is consumed with what the ruthless Eris-tocrats are doing to strip us of energy, property, free speech and religion, etc.. You have to build with one hand and carry a sword with the other, mentally speaking.

  247. Gail Combs says:

    p.g.sharrow says: @ 7 September 2013 at 3:33 pm

    …….Knowledge is a powerful tool no longer under the control of the Elites. We no longer need them! When I was young, (1950s) a teacher remarked to me that, students should be taught, reading, writing, mathematics and how to use a library. After that just turn them lose to learn as they will. He taught me the library catalog system and wow! Who needed school! just let me get into a good library…….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Dr. Art Robinson put together 1-12 home schooling material base on just that principle. Teach the kid to read and turn him loose. His kids tested out of the first two years of college. (NO COMPUTERS, NO CALCULATORS!)

  248. R. de Haan says:

    Love the presentation of this teacher Evan Camp. a real breath of fresh air: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf6Ofw-Ckb8

  249. p.g.sharrow says:

    Like a hammer or a gun, the computer is just a tool. For good or ill, the user is the key. Modern computer technology is the greatest creation of modern civilization. And in fact requires a very large and advanced industrial base to create and maintain it. Freedom requires vigilance with “sword” in hand to maintain it.
    Before the creation of the World Wide Web, I told those that feared the lose of freedom to put down their guns and pick up their computers and communicate. The computer – internet is the greatest “sword” tool ever created. Information and communication, The Elites can no longer hide their machinations from the “masses” in their quest for control. We don’t need them any longer. The World Wide Web is the key to real Freedom for all of mankind.
    My brain allows me to envision and create wondrous things but it has one set of flaws. Communication in words is difficult. So I was trained to dig ditches and build things. The computer – word-processor and the internet allows me to communicate my thoughts with thinking people all over the world. A great gift to one that was told in grade school, that my intelligence was wasted, because I could not convert it into written words that could be communicated to others. Use this tool! Piss off Liberal – Progressives with facts and opinions that counter their own bent ones. We must not allow them to destroy this civilization as they have done to all others. We know the things that have always worked well in human society, they dream of things that have never worked out well and always result in society collapse. pg

  250. R. de Haan says:

    PG, you’ve hit the nail right on the head, so thank for that.
    In the mean time a breath of fresh air from an educational point of view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf6Ofw-Ckb8

  251. LG says:

    Dang it !
    That *&^% di-Hydrogen Monoxide just is plain weid in the presence of high voltage.
    Gyrations a gogo .

  252. LG says:

    Inquiring Minds want to konw.

    The Water Bridge Phenomenon

  253. p.g.sharrow says: @ 7 September 2013 at 3:33 pm
    …….Knowledge is a powerful tool no longer under the control of the Elites. We no longer need them!
    >>>>>>>
    This idea gives me some comfort. In 2012 I helpde to set up a virtual charter school in Osceola county (Kissimee) in Florida. On August 22 we submitted a proposal to create another one in Orange County (Orlando).

    When it comes to K-12 education the trend is in favor of “Control by Elites”. Folks like me who are fighting to return the control of education to the local commmunity are losimg.

  254. sabretoothed says:

  255. p.g.sharrow says:

    The Galloping Camel says: “When it comes to K-12 education the trend is in favor of “Control by Elites”. Folks like me who are fighting to return the control of education to the local commmunity are losimg.”

    Fear not my friend, as they are losing the argument, they try more desperately to exert total control. The credibility of the the professional elite is sliding fast in the minds of the citizens. Your successes are making lies of the creed of Professional Competence. Every thinking person knows that the output of the professional education system has deteriorated as the Elites control has increased. Now citizens are standing up and demanding real improvement from people that have proved they can not deliver. Independents like you,once again, have proved that the old ways of getting results in education always works and at a lot less cost. Union bosses, bureaucrats and professional administrators are just parasites that contribute confusion and wasted efforts for poorer results. pg

  256. p.g.
    Thanks for that.

    The link above from “Another Ian” mentions regime change in Australia in spite of Media bias. Could it happen here?

  257. Gail Combs says:

    p.g.sharrow says: @ 8 September 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Like a hammer or a gun, the computer is just a tool. For good or ill, the user is the key…..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    P.G. the reason Art Robinson does not allow the use of computers/calculators during “School hours” is to make sure his kids got a solid grounding in mathematics instead of using the computer as a crutch. Learning to use a library instead of a computer is also a necessary tool. There is a lot of information available in libraries in hard copy that is NOT available on the net. Kids need to learn that and to learn how to look for information that is in hard copy.

  258. Gail Combs says:

    gallopingcamel says: @ 9 September 2013 at 4:37 pm

    The link above from “Another Ian” mentions regime change in Australia in spite of Media bias. Could it happen here?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I think that people are waking-up faster than the elite realize and much of it is thanks to the internet. Now we realize we are not the odd man out. That there are others who see what we see and moreover we now see we are being manipulated by the propaganda in the MSM.

    This comment gives me hope that a lot of people are starting to smell a rat.

    Let me state first I am black and I find these liberal arguments pathetic. You guys just want to ignore the fact that to do many important and not so important things in this country you need a picture id.

    For example…
    Get a bank account
    Apply for food stamps
    Buy spirits
    buy cigarrettes
    Rent an apartment
    Get a job
    Buy a house
    Apply for unemployment
    and so on….

    Now…no matter how poor we “helpless poor black people are” we find away to do all the above.

    And let’s make no mistake about it…you liberals want this to be a racial thing.

    How is it we poor hopeless folk are required to have ID for all the stuff I listed above, but you think we should not have one when we vote?

    Color me confused!!!!!

    Ps. I will stipulate these new laws are politically motivated by the republicans but that does not mean they are not fueled by their concerns about voter fraud.

    But as a black man…I really don’t care what their motives are. My concern is this law fair or unfair. And to me it is a fair law. We are required to have ID’s for far less important things than voting yet you liberals don’t complain about that. Could this be because your motives are politically motivated too?
    http://www.propublica.org/comments/everything-youve-ever-wanted-to-know-about-voter-id-laws/asc/P50

    Refreshing to see someone else sees the manipulation and is not caught in the RAH RAH go team crap the Democrats and Republicans keep trying to spin.

  259. Zeke says:

    Inre: reading, education

    When we cover a subject, I try to use at least 3 sources (from books) so that the kids can see the differences in the way the subject is analyzed and presented. This has been the way I hope they will develop critical thinking.

  260. Zeke says:

    @crosspatch, thank you for the post about Golden Rice. This is a case of criminalizing good scientists who have done everything they can to develop a crop that is rich in micronutrients and would do much to help children who go blind from deficiencies in their diets during the developing years.

    It is also an example of radical greens who have always fought agricultural developments that would feed more people, ESP in AFRICA, and destroy their Malthusian Overpopulation Paradigm.

  261. R. de Haan says:

    The greens have been the useful idiots who now see their precious forests cut down to make place for palm oil farms and wood chips to fuel coal power plants.

    We now see the run up to WW3 and the establishment of Agenda 21 currently signed by 186 countries. Rice just threatened Iran and North Korea. In may we have seen Obama talk about his FEMA CAMPS and the detainment of Americans without a trial. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZq7uEjwfAQ#t=19

    What we see here is the accumulation of all the madness produced by the Bohemian Grove meetings, the cradle of all US Presidents and Agenda 21 = population regulation

    The planned attack on Syria is only the excuse to enter a full blown war against Iran but possibly also North Korea, Russia and China. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB7kZW2Y-qI

    Expect the US to become a slaughterhouse as any opposition will encountered by brute force.

    Madness rules.

    Unless you get rid of the hacks.

  262. R. de Haan says:

    Not in the news: Massive mobilization of the Turkish army at the Syrian border:

    Britisch Tornado’s intercept Syrian Migs over Cyprus air space:

    A declared war situation will allow Obama to declare the “state of emergency” in the US:

  263. R. de Haan says:

    And here we have a fresh speech of Rice telling us that we have to carpet bomb Syria to send a message to Iran and North Korea: http://www.reuters.com/article/video/idUSBRE9880UX20130909?videoId=271344687

    I’m fed up with the lot. This is going the wrong way. 80% of the US population is against a military intervention and they simply ignore everything.

    Now Kerry has made a huge mistake by offering the Syrians an escape if they hand over their chemical weapons. The Russians have jumped on the occasion by offering the Syrians a solution and they agreed. Now Kerry stay’s empty handed.

    Despite this tactical blunder they will still continue their quest. It’s not about Syria but about the Agenda.

  264. R. de Haan says:

    I really hope the Obama Administration is going to back off and refrain from further escalation of violence.

    This madness has to be stopped.

    I also hope the American people will find a way to remove Obama and his crazy clan from office and clean house. The foreign- and national policies of this administration over the past year has become an utter embarrassment and clearly show Obama is not fit for the job.

  265. p.g.sharrow says:

    The prophesies for “The Great Deceiver” are that in the later days of his 7 years on the world stage, he will lose popular support and attempt to rule by decree. He will be turned out and vanish from the world stage.
    WWIII, that has been going on for some time, will be ended when “The brothers of the North unite and force an end to the Muslim threat to world peace.” Both sides will realize that the people of the Oreant ( Muslim Caliphate) are no ones friend.
    It appears to me that both of these are coming to pass soon.
    Also soon, the philosophy of “Moore” (Thomas Moore, progressive liberalism) will be so discredited as to permanently fall from favor.
    Now! I wonder just who is the “Wise Old Man” that will appear and set the human race on the new path. pg

  266. R. de Haan says:

    P.G, I think we’re running out of time. The entire economy is locked down by Obama Care, out of control debt and blatant corruption on any level. The war plans for Syria and Iran are real. The US and France are already presenting impossible time frames and additional requirements that will rail road the Russian/UN proposal. In the mean time they continue their quest for support for a military strike.
    The Russians (and he Chinese) are not going to stand by and watch. Not this time. Obama has entered a faze where he has nothing to loose and we know which Agenda he supports.
    This is the same insane agenda that is supported by the EU which also arrived at the brink of economic collapse. As I see it their entire policy over the past years has been one of self destruction and this is what we should worry about the most.
    This is a book without a happy end.

  267. R. de Haan says:

    World Governance at the basis if our food chain: http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=84309

    P o p u l a t i o n R e d u c t i o n b y S t a r v a t i o n

  268. p.g.sharrow says:

    @R. de Haan; ” It appears darkest just before the dawn”.
    The Russian proposal may be the start of the new way of thinking. The Russians have been at war with the Muslim for a thousand years and it is an internal problem for them, no small thing. Saving Assad is preferable to allowing Jehadies victory. Political evolution is preferable to revolution. Prophecies talk of the West, wrong minded helping the Muslims in their push to subject the world to their madness of Jehad war against “others”. It is time for the Christian West ( this includes Russia) to “wise up”.
    “The Brothers of the North Unite to end the reign of the Warlords” Jehadies make war on Everyone not like them. We must allow them to make war on one another until they tire of the blood. Only this, will permit the re-creation of Mohammadism to it’s peaceful roots. “The 12th Imam walks with Jesus.” as did Mohammad. The war between Shia and Sunni must be allowed to run it’s course before peace can win.
    Those that follow the visions of “Moore” must discredit themselves in the eyes of most of the population. After 200 years of brainwashing students, the argument is going flat, people are wising up to the lie. The general population realizes they have been conned. Only the politicians are still in on the game and now even they are starting to smell the rot. Our argument is winning, it just not very visible yet.
    “The Watermelons and the Strawberries are past their prime and starting to Rot”.
    The Progressive-Liberials think they have won control. They have won the ability to prove their failure of ability. They are dreamers, not doers. This time they have brainwashed their people to fear weapons so they have no built in ability for enforcement through fear. Real Americans are still armed and dangerous, so Progressive-Liberals fear them even more then they fear real Terrorists. Just listen to the Main Stream Talking Heads:”Tea Party” and “Christians” ( both very peaceful ) Are the Most Dangerous People in the World! They know that they are losing the argument and their grasp on power.
    The Internet has bypassed the MSM control of information and communication by the Liberial-Progressive Elites. People are beginning to realize they have been lied to. They are MAD at the lie-ers and will not be redirected by more lies. The constant attempts to redirect by the MSM is no longer working. GOD works in strange ways but wins in the end. Have faith in the outcome and keep pushing the message. We are winning the argument. 8-) pg

  269. R. de Haan says:

    PG, I look at the treaties, the binding treaties. As long as these ass holes are in power executing their agenda’s they are breaking down our civilization. One of the Agenda 21 chapters allows foreign troops on our soil. Just remember what happened with former Rhodesia, Zimbabwe one of Africa;s bread baskets. It only took Mugabe 7 years to completely destroy the economy and the agricultural output simply by confiscating farms and murdering farmers. If there was any country that required a foreign military intervention it was Zimbabwe but the West and South Africa did nothing. Why? Because Zimbabwe was a UN experiment. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Winning the argument today is not the same as regaining control.

    I don’t share your optimism simply because the we’re at the brink of financial and economic collapse and the Federal Government has developed a suppression apparatus similar to the forces operating in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    They are prepared to remain in power even if we sink into chaos and I don’t see any way out soon. To be honest I think matters will become much worse. Much, much worse.

  270. R. de Haan says:

    As for Syria, the French and the USA will try to make Russia sign up to a UN treaty and eliminate them as a “blocking party” in the UN Security Council. That’s why Kerry is going to Russia on Thursday. Of course the Russians will come up with a Syria solution but they will refrain from any commitments themselves. Putin has send the Russian fleet to Syria and continues to send in more ships: http://rt.com/news/russia-moskva-cruiser-mediterranean-720/ Putin continues to deliver arms to the Assad regime and Iran. Obama unfortunately is the wrong President at the wrong moment. The Russians are not going to back off.

  271. R. de Haan says:

    Only the fact that Putin is now in Iran talking strategy and arms while Kerry has to deal with Lavrov tomorrow tells me the Russians are dealing the sheets.

    We have a trigger happy French idiot who’s economy is on the brink of collapse shaping the EU policy towards Syria and we absolutely lack a professional in the White House.

    IMO a potentially deadly mix under the current circumstances.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-09/us-russian-naval-deployment-near-syria-update

    Just for the record: We have Chinese drone, navy and air force intrusions of Japanese territorial waters and air space and we have Russian planes entering West European air space yesterday and today. There is much more going on than meets the eye and published by MSM.

  272. R. de Haan says:

    Help Obama Kickstart WW3

  273. Zeke says:

    We can all become bikers maybe. (:

  274. Jason Calley says:

    @ p.g.sharrow “I wonder just who is the “Wise Old Man” that will appear and set the human race on the new path.”

    Hmmm….. Ron Paul?

  275. crosspatch says:

    Ordered a Beaglebone Black today from Jameco and since I drive right by their place in Redwood City on my way to work, I stopped in and picked it up at the will-call desk rather than waiting for shipping. Now to get a power supply and case for it … looks like an interesting little gadget.

  276. R. de Haan says:

    Jason Calley says:
    12 September 2013 at 2:15 am

    Hmmm…. Ron Paul?

    Paul would have been a good candidate but has been marginalized. Americans should ask themselves where their candidates come from and go after the puppet masters.

    Otherwise you will be served crooked candidates for centuries.

  277. LG says:

    Via JoNova:

    Bacteria enhance growth of fruit trees up to 40 percent

    “…the beneficial bacteria are located in the immediate area surrounding the root or rhizosphere, and among these bacteria are a group classified as “growth promoters,” which fulfill the function of helping the plant development and protect it from the attack of pathogenic microorganisms or by producing phytohormones; these substances allow a supply of nutrients and water.

    The fungi that provide benefits, says Olalde Portugal, are the called myccorrhizal. When in contact with the roots a biochemical communication starts that allows the trees to adapt with no problems when transplanted. Besides, the microorganism is responsible for exploring the ground beyond the reach of the roots and brings them useful elements for their development, like phosphorus.”
    “…the specialist stresses that the plant with myccorrhizal fungi perform photosynthesis in a more efficient way, using less water than those who don’t have the association. At the same time, all physiological processes change, resulting in rapid developing trees.”

    A Look Beneath the Surface at Plant Establishment and Growth

    “Mycorrhizal root systems increase the absorptive the absorbing area of roots 10 to 1000 times thereby greatly improving the ability of the plants to utilize the soil resource. (Figure 4). Mycorrhizal fungi are able to absorb and transfer all of the 15 major macro and micro nutrients necessary for plant growth. Mycorrhizal fungi release powerful chemicals into the soil that dissolve hard to capture nutrients such as phosphorous, iron and other “tightly bound” soil nutrients. This extraction process is particularly important in plant nutrition and explains why non mycorrhizal plants require high levels of fertility to maintain their health. Mycorrhizal fungi form an intricate web that captures and assimilates nutrients conserving the nutrient capital in soils. In non mycorrhizal conditions much of this fertility is wasted or lost from the system.”

    “Commercial production of mycorrhizal fungi for practical use has been available in the last decade, however, the importance of mycorrhizal fungi has been evident for some 400 million years. The earliest fossil records of the roots of land plants contain evidence of the fossil remains of mycorrhizal fungi. Scientists now believe that the “marriage” of mycorrhizal fungus and plant played an essential role in the evolutionary step which brought aquatic plants from sea to land. At some point in the evolutionary process, a filament penetrated into the outer cells of a primitive plant root. Once there, it accommodated itself so nicely that a new, more complex entity emerged, the mycorrhiza. The increased absorbing area provided by an elaborate system of fungal filaments allowed aquatic plants to leave the marine environment and exploit a relatively harsh soil environment.”

  278. p.g.sharrow says:

    Hmmm….Ron Paul?
    I don’t recall hearing him being call “the wise old Man”. I do remember him being liken to ” ones crazy old uncle”. I like a great deal of what he has to say, but, I doubt he is the “wise old man” described.
    The wise old man labors in obscurity until his time on the world stage. The ObamaNation must thoroughly discredit Itself first and be turned out.
    Now the Russian, Putin has his turn at bat. Sometimes good things come from selfish intents. “GOD works in strange ways” I am willing to allow him a chance. Russia must wake up to Its danger from the Jehadies. Also there is a prophecy about the Head Oligarch being killed by a Muslim group that are quite proud of their accomplishment. Unknown to them, it is a great lose to them. The Oligarch is their greatest enabler. I don’t know if Putin is the “Head Oligarch”. we will see soon! pg

  279. Zeke says:

    We are one “organic only” stunt away from food shortages.

    Be careful of grand progressive experiments to remake agriculture. If any of this is accompanied by force of government to outlaw pesticides, herbicides, and chemical fertilizers, you will know that it is another scheme to disrupt agriculture, in exactly the same manner that “renewables” are used to destabilize and disrupt energy.

    Also, notice that many of the ag stories come from Chinese scientists, who are signing five year plans with both the European Union and the USDA. Why sign five-year plans with Maoists who do not acknowledge or allow discussion of the destruction of agriculture, and the subsequent starvation, in China during the Great Leap?

  280. Zeke says:

    Notice that alternative agriculture movements claim to be able to replace chemical fertilizers (Nitrogen, oh horrors!) with natural fertilizers, and yet the self-same heartless environmentalists are passing outrageous regulations and taxes against dairy and beef cattle, which would be the best source of soil building fertilzers.

    Look very carefully at these “organic only” puritans, because the scary water shortage models also allow restriction of water use and cause rising prices for growers and homeowners. The water sustainability movement goes hand in hand with the new agricultural sustainability schemes, pushed by NGOs and rich “nonprofits” on local economies.

    Some of the destructive results of the movement to inflict personal organic dietary laws on the rest of society is the use of human waste as fertilizers, as has happened in Mexico. There is not enough non-chemical fertilizers to renew the soil. Laws should be passed against the use of human waste for fertilzers. This is the worst kind of pollution, because it spreads malaria and disease, and Progressive activists are silent about this disgusting practice.

    The maths for this kind of organic only propaganda falls hopelessly short. The needs of the dwarf, quick-growing varieties of wheat pioneered by Norman Borlaug are intense. And the arguments against nitrogen and phosphorous are not settled science for every one. Progressive paradigms in agriculture are to be looked at with stricter scrutiny, because of the recent, shameful use of science during the 1900’s to destroy agronomy in Russia and China.

  281. Zeke says:

    Under every progressive scientist is the need to affirm the Malthusian Overpopulation Paradigm. Even if they have to fulfill their own sweeping scientific prophecies through heartless agricultural activism.

  282. Zeke says:

    My grandpa used to say, “Don’t take any wooden nickles.” He could usefully have added, “And don’t take any bull chip para-digms either.”

  283. Jason Calley says:

    A very interesting post at Tallbloke’s regarding the relative rotational rates of the various planets in our Solar System. Seems that a bunch of pairs of planets have rotational rates that sum up to Fibonacci numbers.
    http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2013/09/13/why-the-phi-do-all-these-planetary-rotation-ratios-add-to-fibonacci-numbers/

    (More accurately: Pick two planets. Find the lowest number of rotations that each has to turn so that the two planets have both turned a whole number of times. Add those two numbers and check to see whether it is a Fibonacci number.)

  284. Another Ian says:

    Zeke,

    Did your grandpa also mention yellow snow to be avoided?

  285. Another Ian says:

    E.M.

    More happenings our way -we live in hope

    http://joannenova.com.au/2013/09/dennis-jensen-would-be-a-great-science-minister/

    And time for T (next) in case you’re supersticious IMO

  286. LG says:

    Lack of Flaring Collapsing the Atmosphere ?

  287. J Martin says:

    Flares collapsing the upper atmosphere I thought it had more to do with EUV.

  288. J Martin says:

    T12 takes time to load for me. Perhaps it’s just my machine and broadband, perhaps not. Time for T13 perhaps ?

  289. E.M.Smith says:

    Discussion to continue on https://chiefio.wordpress.com/tD/

    Yes, that’s T13, but in Hex, so folks bothered by 13 won’t notice ;-)

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