This is an “overflow” page from prior Tips pages as they had gotten so large it was taking a long time to load. Same idea, just a new set of space to put pointers to things of interest. The most immediately preceding page is: https://chiefio.wordpress.com/t8/.

I’ve added a generic “T” parent page where older copies of the various “Tips” pages can be found archived.

While I’m mostly interested in things having to do with:

Making money, usually via trading
Weather and climate
Quakes, Volcanoes, and other Earth Sciences
Current economic and political events
(often as those last three have impact on the first one…)
And just about any ‘way cool’ interesting science or technology

If something else is interesting you put a “tip” here.

You can also look at the list of “Categories” on the right hand side and get an idea of any other broad area of interest.

This ought not to be seen as a “limit” on what is “interesting”, more as a “focus list” with other things that are interesting being fair game as well.

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263 Responses to T9

  1. Just a heads-up on a claimed perpetual-motion idea, shortly to go to be third-party tested.
    It’s also been covered by the main media, but PESN has the links.

  2. DirkH says:

    Look what weird stuff I found, here’s the late Terence McKenna 1995

    He says he uses the I Ching to construct a “Time Wave” that spirals ever faster, contemporary history being a compressed version of the 4000 years before etc, all ending …

    …DEC 2012…

    Looks like the esoterics have been dreaming of End Of The World in 2012 even before they found the Mayan calender.

  3. Zeke says:

    Dear EM Smith,

    Please overlook my strong response regarding genetically modified food on WUWT several days ago. It was not directed at you. I had forgotten that it was you who brought it up.
    If an opportunity presents itself, I will make it up to you.


  4. E.M.Smith says:


    No problem, I don’t think I saw it, so just don’t tell me and I’ll never know. ;-)


    One can only hope that cold, poor, and hungry causes more folks to discover the virtue of “The Conservative Point Of View”…


    I’ve seen that kind of thing before. I suspect it’s a math artifact…


    Ah, the ‘phase angle magnet magic motors’ folks. I’ll believe it when I can buy one at the local Home Depot and they’ve been running the place on them for a few months…

    While I’m open minded enough to allow for some bizarre way to such energy out of the multi-dimentional space we live in via some unanticipated ‘edge case’ of quantum mechanics, I’m also pretty well married to the Second Law of Thermodynamics. So it that craft is (by their statement of land speed of 4 wheeler at 100 mph) pumping out about 90 kW something, somewhere, has to be loosing it, so there ought to be something getting darned cold somewhere… Even a QM solution sucking it out of the atoms in the whole room ought to show up as a chill in the air…

    He’s saying ‘first ship in January’, so call in in February… with film of the thing running continuously for a weekend uncoupled from anything else, no fuel on board…

    I do think there ought to be a way to pull energy out of space, it is highly unlikely to be as simple as magnets and motor / generators. Folks have been playing with them for a mighty long time, and we’re still waiting…


    Oh Dear!

    Frankly, given what I know of Chinese “business morals” I doubt that China can back down without having a lot of dirty laundry show up… Graft, kickbacks, payoffs, bribes, looting the vault for the Commissar and their kid. And the US can back down or every OTHER country will demand the same.

    Maybe a good time to look at shorting Chinese stocks ;-)

  5. sabretoothed says:

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,760539,00.html#ixzz2FZlV5AMu History repeating, another popular Left leader that went crazy, soon WW2 started.

    Guess who got person of the year again!

  6. EM – I’ve also seen a lot of attempts to loop a motor and generator, with maybe batteries in there too, and they’ve all failed to be confirmed. In this case, though, the guy is having it verified by Plymouth university (it’s near him) and what he has made looks like good engineering with a lot of money put in. It’s possibly worth a bit more watching than the others.

    The second law of thermodynamics is a statistical truth, and only works for cycles and for large numbers of particles. There are ways round it that I can see, but they require nano-engineering that I’m not capable of doing here. You can get usable energy, but things will cool down in giving it – conservation of energy still holds.

  7. sabretoothed says:

    Amazing recent video from Indonesia of Pyroclastic flow http://youtu.be/N4H0KrMPEyw

    Why Humans Lost their hair? http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=latest-theory-human-body-hair

    http://www.newstatesman.com/society/2010/12/disabled-america-immigration When USA “Believed” in Eugenics. Sounds like “Believed in Climate Change” Remember Hitler was Person of the year in 1938 and was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1939, then they tried to cover their stuff ups up after WW2 was started. Eugenics pseudoscience continued until 1950. Is Climate Change leading us to WW3 by destabilizing earth with unsustainable “Green” objectives just like Eugenics did?

  8. Sera says:

    Boiling water turns to snow

  9. sabretoothed says:

    http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/143782-mit-discovers-a-new-state-of-matter-a-new-kind-of-magnetism Researchers at MIT have discovered a new state of matter with a new kind of magnetism. This new state, called a quantum spin liquid (QSL), could lead to significant advances in data storage. QSLs also exhibit a quantum phenomenon called long-range entanglement, which could lead to new types of communications systems, and more.

  10. E.M.Smith says:

    Para Adolfo: Me gusta esto, tal vez usted también lo hará?

    Es una mezcla de español e Inglés, como California ;-)

  11. adolfogiurfa says:

    @NickS: It´s like the video. The Sun goes in the direction of the Apex, and taking into account the small deflection of its course, it orbits Alcyone star, in the Taurus constellation:
    Need to see:

    Click to access unified_field_explained_9.pdf

  12. adolfogiurfa says:

    @E.M.: Thanks!…when will you fly southwards?

  13. adolfogiurfa says:

    It seems that the warmer anomalies, called “El Niño” that used to happen along the geographic equator now point to Chile, see those H 1.13, H 1.04, H 1.02, H 1.22, going from Australia to Chile. A more southern “Niño” over there?

  14. E.M.Smith says:


    A fascinating perspective…

    Per ‘strandings’: Folks don’t know why they happen. Not volcanic as near as I can tell. For whales, it seems connected with either being sick, or magnetic disruption. Some suspect damage to their echolocation from underwater explosions and very very loud sonars. For squid, there isn’t even a theory…


    I think we’ll find a shift of ocean currents along with a very very small change in Length Of Day as the lunar / solar tidal cycle shifts (part of that “Polar see-saw”). That ought to change the nature / strength of the ENSO, but probably not eliminate it. So yes, watch those ocean patterns to see if new ones show up…

  15. crosspatch says:

    M6.6-ish Vanuatu

  16. DirkH says:

    ChiefIo, you recently mentioned quantum theory. Just found this, don’t know if you already know it, it’s related to Bell’s proof that all interpretations of quantum theory must be non-local.

    Quantum theory, the causal interpretation, Pilot wave theory
    there are no particles, only wave functions
    The wave function never collapses (it’s a many world theory in chronic denial –
    meaning that an observer thinks he watches the collapse of the wave function but
    that’s only him…)

  17. sabretoothed says:

    Gravity waves and the ocean –> Changes in Gravity can effect the sea and the climate? http://modis.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/individual.php?db_date=2011-11-17

    Connect this with reduction in gravity over the last 150 years (just when the warming happened?
    Gunther Bildmeyer is his name and he says that “In this day Earth’s magnetic field is in fact 10% weaker than it was 150 years ago when the first measurements were conducted and it is getting weaker faster and faster”. “Should this be the case then a hundred years from now people are going to float here just as astronauts”. The conclusions which follow this are devastating. Effects vary from electromagnetic storms to shifts in Earth’s climate and an increase of solar radiation.

    [digg-reddit-me]His theory is even more stunning as he says that this took place before. “This process happened a few times in the past and life was affected but it was not extinct. The problem is that now man is targeted directly because it is the first such incident our species witnesses. The previous event took place 780.000 years ago”. The physicist claims that it is happening because of the subtle shifts in Earth’s core.

    “It somewhat resembles breathing. When the planet breathes in the masses of incandescent metal rise towards the surface and the field is more intense and when the planet breathes out the metal goes down and the gravity field is weaker. This cycle takes hundreds of thousands of years.”. Gunther Bildmeyer is not that well known. This could just be the sayings of a modern mad scientist or it could be the harsh truth. There are still things about our planet we know nothing about.

  18. sabretoothed says:

    Also Gravity varies around the globe. Lets see them computer model Gravity into every cloud and wave http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12911806

  19. tckev says:

    Renewable Energy Foundation has an interesting study on wind farms. Apparently a 15 year life is about normal for them, not the 20-25 year expectation.

    Not nice to see so much tax is wasted on these bird killers.

  20. E.M.Smith says:


    Well, that’s disappointing… I’m not fond of the bird and bat choppers either, but at least that could perform as advertized…

    @Dirk H.:

    Oh Boy, a little ‘light reading’ I see… ;-)

  21. DirkH says:

    @Dirk H.:
    “Oh Boy, a little ‘light reading’ I see… ;-)”

    Found it while listening to McKenna/Sheldrake/Abrahams, they mentioned J S Bell, his work about nonlocality in quantum mechanics, and of course, being old hippies, they see a possibility that this nonlocality can give rise to the mystical teleconnections they use to postulate (Sheldrake’s morphic fields e.g.). Bell in turn was fascinated by the de Broglie- Bohm interpretation of quantum theory, and so am I. Bohm allows to actually CALCULATE a trajectory of photons as they go through the double slit experiment, how cool is that? (They stay probability distributions, though, as the wave function doesn’t collapspe).

    And I was never satisfied with the Kopenhagen interpretation. Now I’m amazed that such an interesting alternative interpretation existed for all these years.

  22. DirkH says:

    sabretoothed says:
    22 December 2012 at 5:52 am
    “Also Gravity varies around the globe. Lets see them computer model Gravity into every cloud and wave”

    Sabre, satellite altimetry used for sea level measurements basically measures the same signal as those gravity measurements. High gravity = high sea level; same signal. (Higher local gravity pulls water from areas with lower gravity) (Above undersea volcano mountains, the sea forms a bump of several meters height)
    How to compute it: (you have a lot of choices. Results are highly model (or assumption-) dependant)

    Click to access 20760407.pdf

    ENVISAT was a bus-sized satellite, famously called the biggest research satellite ever. Now fun thing is, the CRYSTAL surveillance satellites of the CIA are… bus-sized…. and use a low orbit, like ENVISAT did.
    It turns out that Envisat once changed its orbit by 17km in height… Quite a disruption when you’re trying to measure sea level with a sub mm precision. Now, Envisat also had the purpose of ensuring “civil security”…. quel surprise, looks like the sea level altimeter was just a bolted on instrument on a EU surveillance monster.

  23. DirkH says:

    Satellite altimetry: Long term drift error is 30 to 40 times the annual signal!!! tallbloke:
    “Given the costs of the projects, it’s not surprising the satellite teams don’t advertise
    their error ranges on the graphs. Would you be shouting from the rooftops that the longer
    term error is +/- 30-40 times bigger than the annual signal? ”

  24. Steve C says:

    @EM, re that very very small change in Length Of Day as the lunar / solar tidal cycle shifts – I looked recently at the first graph (difference between UT1 and UTC) on Wikipedia’s Leap second page and wondered. There’s a flurry of leap seconds over the last dozen years of the 20th century, then nothing from ’99 to ’06, then a modest resumption in recent years. It definitely looks as though something shifted around ’99 and is only now beginning to recover, and whatever it is it’s big enough to make a discernible difference to the rotation of the planet.

    @Dirk H. – Great to see Bohm referenced. It was coming across Wholeness and the Implicate Order back in the day that made me start looking askance at the Copenhagen interpretation. Thanks for reminding me – but yes, links better followed without too much seasonal lubrication. ‡-|

    Merry Christmas, everyone.

  25. adolfogiurfa says:

    My hunch is that there are simple explanations for complicated phenomena,…..but that is neither cool nor “intelligent”.
    So, let us leave complicated matters for complicated souls…..may they find peace, one day, to their entangled minds. (Historically this “confusion of tongues” began thousand of years ago).

  26. Another Ian says:



    From comments at


    Gail Combs says:
    December 21, 2012 at 6:22 pm
    spangled drongo says: @ December 21, 2012 at 3:53 pm
    ….. the warmists’ serenity prayer:

    God grant me the BIAS to reject the facts I hate, the BLINDNESS to embrace the ones I love and the BAD MANNERS to address those who try to show me the difference.
    Isn’t that

    God grant me the BIAS to reject the facts I hate, the BLINDNESS to embrace the ones I love and the BAD MANNERS to /address/ curse those who try to show me the difference.”


    (/address/ was a strike out in the original post)

  27. sabretoothed says:

    The volcanic aerosol helped warm the stratosphere by about 4 degrees C. (7 degrees F.), due to absorption of solar and terrestrial radiation. Typically, such a large eruption would cool the overall climate, particularly in the summer, by reducing the amount of solar radiation reaching the Earth’s surface. However, the eruption occurred simultaneously with one of the strongest El Niño events of the century. It produced a compensating warming signal; thus, no large cooling was observed for the year following the eruption. The fine ash and sulfuric-acid droplets in the atmosphere caused brilliant sunsets that were viewed from the northern hemisphere for the next few years.

    Appearances can be deceiving, and the El Chichón eruption largely caught residents and officials by surprise. Prior to 1982, the 1,150-m (3,800-ft) volcano was heavily forested and looked similar to adjacent non-volcanic peaks. Because the last major eruption occurred approximately 500 years before the present, the hazards of El Chichón were absent from recent memory. There were some seismic precursors and the local indigenous Zoque population also reported that Piowacwe, the shape-changing goddess of El Chichón, visited nearby villages in the weeks prior to the activity announcing the eruption. There is now a strong emphasis on monitoring and research studies, with community training on volcanic risk, including evacuation exercises. ttp://www.hawaii247.com/2012/12/20/volcano-watch-a-holiday-visit-to-exotic-el-chichon-volcano/

  28. Greg says:

    Interesting things we should be asking the alarmist climate change studies

  29. Another Ian says:


    Check out


    In comments Jo is having some problems with sound etc on the videos.

    Might be an area for some of your experience?

  30. DirkH says:

    sabretoothed says:
    24 December 2012 at 9:03 am
    “This was up, then it was pulled, this is the google Cache page ”

    Thanks! Saved!

  31. DirkH says:

    Another Ian says:
    24 December 2012 at 7:51 pm
    “Sabretoooth and DirkH
    This is up at”

    Thanks, seen it already. At least the guy is an equal opportunity offender; he wants the Pope killed as well even though the Vatican is warmist (they make a ton of money with Kyoto credits and wind turbines, being the largest landowner of the planet).

  32. E.M.Smith says:

    FWIW I printed the google cash to an xps document file. It can be converted to a PDF or otherwise preserved / converted. That “missive” isn’t going to be ‘disappeared’ by anyone…

    @Another Ian:

    I’ll take a look shortly after Christmas shopping is done… ;-)

  33. NickS says:

    Anyone see this one come out again, USGS’s sole reference scientist holding the flag for CO2 Volcano production. http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2011/2011EO240001.shtml

    Thing is the same size is 7 volcanoes and 3 underwater volcanoes as a sample size for 3million volcanoes “In point of fact, the total worldwide estimate of roughly 55 MtCpa is by one researcher, rather than “scientists” in general. More importantly, this estimate by Gerlach (1991) is based on emission measurements taken from only seven subaerial volcanoes and three hydrothermal vent sites. Yet the USGS glibly claims that Gerlach’s estimate includes both subaerial and submarine volcanoes in roughly equal amounts. Given the more than 3 million volcanoes worldwide indicated by the work of Hillier & Watts (2007), one might be prone to wonder about the statistical significance of Gerlach’s seven subaerial volcanoes and three hydrothermal vent sites. If the statement of the USGS concerning volcanic CO2 is any indication of the reliability of expert consensus, it would seem that verifiable facts are eminently more trustworthy than professional opinion.” http://carbon-budget.geologist-1011.net/

  34. DirkH says:

    NickS says:
    26 December 2012 at 9:10 am
    http://denialdepot.blogspot.com.au/2009/04/co2-levels-may-have-been-over-2000ppm.html CO2 levels different in recent history?”

    Problems with that:
    A lot of the measurements Beck collected were made in a heavily industrialized area of Germany, (near Giessen) at surface level.
    And linearly extrapolating them back to the year 1000 is silly.
    The Mauna Loa people discard measurements depending on wind direction; they can see it when air from the volcano pollutes their measurement, they get immediate spikes.

    That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if CO2 levels during the MWP were higher; after all temperature dependent CO2 outgassing from the oceans is the major influence on CO2 levels.

    Discussion of Ernst Beck’s results:
    About the measurements by W. Kreutz in Giessen

    Click to access Kreutz_english.pdf

  35. sabretoothed says:

    Looks like Terminator is coming soon

  36. Zeke says:

    sabretoothed says:
    25 December 2012 at 9:16 pm http://vimeo.com/24594162 Vit D

    Thank you, that is an inspiring video. It illustrates so well the way that a single hormone produced by the body has completely different effects for different receptors in the various systems and organs. This can be extremely important to understand, when deciding whether to take a medication. Hormones given to patients for one ailment are not like the hormones produced by the body. Hormones produced by the body are somehow targeted to the specific organ where it is needed. Hormones taken orally are not targeted, so cause different responses all over the body. These are unintended consequences and side effects.

    I nearly had my pituitary function wiped out by a doctor. He assured me that people do not need their pituitary in adulthood, and that hormones taken by prescriptions could easily replace what few hormones were needed. My own research an interest in the subject indicated otherwise. One dream I had illustrated my predicament. I dreamed that I was being driven in a car with a black windshield, so it was impossible to see. And when we arrived at the airport, the massive planes were all warped and missing stabilizers, etc, and completely grounded forever.

    So I finally told the doctors and nurses that what they were telling me was like saying, “We are closing down the nationwide air delivery of UPS, the Postal Service, and FedEx, but don’t worry because we still have several buses going to Chicago and LA.”

  37. LG says:

    The Society for Scientific Exploration

    The Society for Scientific Exploration (SSE) is a professional organization of scientists and scholars who study unusual and unexplained phenomena. Subjects often cross mainstream boundaries, such as consciousness, unidentified aerial phenomena, and alternative medicine, yet often have profound implications for human knowledge and technology.

    Video Presentations.

  38. jim2 says:

    Rossi device …

    “Editorial Comment: Kullander and Essén were up against a man with significantly different ethics and principles. They trusted Rossi. They allowed their subjectivity to guide them rather than their scientific discipline. By mid-2011, Kullander and Essén had enough information to know that their initial evaluation was weak and flawed. But rather than admit that to the public, and perhaps to themselves, they held tight to their initial conclusion without issuing a public retraction or even a qualification of their initial evaluation.

    There is nothing wrong with Kullander and Essén’s admitting a mistake, even now. Rossi may someday deliver a device that produces energy as he claims. But that is independent from the fact that Kullander and Essén did not, and do not, have credible scientific support for their endorsement of Rossi’s device.”


  39. jim2 says:

    Volcano papers:

    “Aggregated volcanic CO2 emission rate estimates are reported in 23 studies since 1979 (Table S1).

    Global Volcanic CO2 Emission Rate Estimates

    Table S1 contains the five published estimates of the present-day global volcanic CO2 emission rate. Four studies provide estimates as ranges, giving a sense of estimate uncertainty; one provides only a single-valued estimate. The total range over all five global estimates is 0.13 Gt y-1 (minimum) to 0.44 Gt y-1 (maximum), or 0.285 ± 0.155 Gt y-1; all estimates are within a factor of 1.84 of 0.239 Gt y-1. The range of the preferred global estimates of the five studies is 0.15-0.26 Gt y-1, or 0.205 ± 0.055 Gt y-1; all preferred estimates are within a factor of 1.32 of 0.197 Gt y-1.”


    The AGU paper …


  40. DirkH says:

    sabretoothed says:
    26 December 2012 at 9:32 pm
    “Looks like Terminator is coming soon”

    It’s funny that the second video objects to Israel’s Iron Dome by showing a picture of it while criticizing use of machines on the battlefield yet does not object to Hamas’ usage of rockets – that’s of course ethically justifiable; they are good human-operated rockets… ordinary ethicist scumbags. How dare the Israelis use the unfair advantage of machine reflexes!

    So basically what they’re saying is we want a fair war; the guys who have more machetes deserve to win?

  41. crosspatch says:

    sabretoothed, We have long had weapons that could operate in an autonomous mode to identify targets, assign a weapon, and fire the weapon. The idea was that if our forces were somehow incapacitated by chemical warfare, these systems could operate in autonomous mode distinguishing friendly from unfriendly (or trying to), assign a priority to the targets, assign a weapon to the targets in order of priority and launch the weapon(s). That technology is well over 30 years old. Also we have had the technology to control manned aircraft by remote control. Variations of that technology have existed since the 1950’s.


  42. sabretoothed says:

    AGW has never overcome the null hypothesis (a basic hypothesis test), that the warming is a natural fluctuation. Why does this matter? Let me explain.

    A null hypothesis is a default position. To overcome the null hypothesis you have to show a certain statistical significance (or probability) that the evidence fits your hypothesis, better than the default position. We’re not talking about absolute proof, just probability.

    Let’s use gravity as an example. The evidence that best fits the law (by a high probability) is that gravity is generated by mass. If you were to say that gravity used to be generated by mass but now it’s mostly people, you had better be able to show a high probability that the evidence fits your hypothesis, better than the current default position. If you didn’t you would be scoffed at.

    However, human caused climate change has never done this, and the evidence fits the null-hypothesis like a glove.
    Why? Climate change is the norm, not the exception!
    It always has and always will change.

    By not rejecting the null-hypothesis, the human caused climate change hypothesis has never qualified as a theory. These people who play it as a fact, are in fact in denial of the scientific method!

    However, the reverse is not true. The AGW hypothesis has indeed been rejected by scientific analysis.

    This paper recently published in a highly respected high impact journal, has falsified AGW. The paper finds that the warming of the late 20th century was not related to anthropogenic forcing.

    What does it mean?

    Game over for the Alarmists.
    If you believe in AGW, science is not on your side.


    Source https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=367514863345659&set=a.152651198165361.32995.152483204848827&type=1&theater

  43. E.M.Smith says:


    Make that 1940’s… One of the Kennedy brothers was killed in one such airplane that detonated too soon. They flew it off the runway, then armed it, and bailed out. It was then to be flown to target crewless. It looks like the arming lead to ‘premature detonation’….


    10. Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr.
    Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr, is famous due to his family connections. His father was a well known businessman and Ambassador. His brother, John F. Kennedy, would become the 35th president of the United States. He became a naval aviator in 1942. He was due to return home after completing missions in England between 1942 and 1944. However, he volunteered to be part of Operation Aphrodite. On July 23, 1944, Kennedy was to bail out of a plane full of explosives that would then be remote detonated. However, the explosives on board the plane detonated before he and his co-pilot bailed out.

    Not to mention the German V1 and V2 that were auto-pilot to point of detonation with crude, but effective, navigation. (V2 more accurate…)

    So these autonomous self piloting bombs are about a 70 year old technology… that we know of…

  44. DirkH says:

    Thanks for the link, sabre.
    It’s probably an extension of this from Beenstock & Reingewertz, 2 or 3 years ago:

    Click to access Nature_Paper091209.pdf

    Will check the new one out.

  45. DirkH says:

    Ed Caryl has an interesting essay about C3 and C4 plants and CO2 levels up at notrickszone.

    For me the most interesting fact is that C4 plants seem to be able to survive REALLY low CO2 levels.

  46. crosspatch says:

    Well, the 70yo technology was pretty much just missile tech using a plane or a rocket for the missile. I was thinking of something different. Of the information I know of that I have read in open sources, we had ground systems in the lat 1970’s and early 1980’s that were just amazing. For example, a device that could detect and tell the difference between a small vehicle like an automobile, a truck, and a tank based on the profile of vibrations it created in the ground. The system could be programmed in any number of ways. For example, it might be set to allow light traffic pass but activate when the third (or 6th or 8th or whatever) tank passed by. The weapon then shot a portion of itself straight up, acquired its target, and fired a self-forging projectile that used the heat of travel through the air to forge the projectile. You might recall some Iranian-built IEDs in Iraq using a similar shaped charge/self forging copper plate projectile from the Iraq war. These weapons were designed to be scattered by air in front of massive units of armor and mechanized infantry and to activate once the unit had traveled deep into the area. It was cold war tech designed to deny safety of movement deep in the enemy’s own territory.

    All you need is some sort of IFF (identification/friend or foe) mechanism to discriminate between friendly and unfriendly forces. We have a lot of “fire and forget” weapons that can be released in the general direction of an enemy force, can locate their own targets and then destroy them. The problem comes in when you want to destroy a SPECIFIC target from a rather rich environment of potential targets. You can’t tell the missile that you want to target the “white pick up truck that has the three guys in it that just left Habib’s house”. They are generally only good where you don’t care WHICH target they lock on to, you want to take out ANY pick up truck unless you have a human in the loop someplace who has designated a specific target in some way.


  47. sabretoothed says:



    Can Mars prove the sun did it?

    These graphs appear to show the sun’s output increasing, ramping up over recent years, seeming to explain most of the global warming we’ve seen

    Shows sunspot activity climbing toward the present, shows low activity during the Maunder Minimum

    Shows sunspots peaked during the MWP, and are climbing again now

    Carbon 14 proxy data shows peak during MWP, and another peak NOW

    IN CONTRAST, we have NASA data that seems to show that the number of sunspots has declined precipitously in recent years

    And this one, which also claims to show the number of sunspots declining towards the present day

    Reconstruction of solar Irradiance since 1610: Implications for climate change
    J Lean, J Beer, R Bradley – Geophysical Research Letters, 1995 – geo.umass.edu

    Click to access lean1995.pdf

    Another graph of solar Irradiance increasing since the 1700s or so

    And the Cold is spreading to Afghanistan (Children dying) and now in India

    At least 34 Deaths from freezing this winter in India so far

  48. crosspatch says:

    China currently has 30 large nuclear power units in different phases of construction. http://world-nuclear-news.org/NN_First_concrete_at_Tianwan_3_2912121.aspx

  49. sabretoothed says:

    I thought high testosterone was good for you, as as you get older the testosterone drops and causes problems like weight gain etc. Though they saw castrated dogs live longer too http://www.livescience.com/23406-eunuchs-may-outlive-other-men.html

    So did man start in China? Were these the originals and we changed into what we are now? http://www.livescience.com/19039-human-species-china-cave.html

  50. DirkH says:

    jim2 says:
    29 December 2012 at 11:16 pm
    “Re the Beenstock paper …”

    Not a refutation… he ends with “Any bunnies wanna bet what happens if you use a longer record???”
    In other words, he says “You just wait, CO2 will prove you wrong again!”
    The numbers are the numbers. If he had numbers to refute Beenstock et al he would have showed them. He is reduced to making ominous noises.

  51. crosspatch says:

    This might be worth keeping an eye on over the years: http://moe.met.fsu.edu/snow/

  52. pyromancer76 says:

    Don’t know if you remain interested in Mayan calendar, but there may be something of interest at cosmictusk in connection with M Baillie’s research — http://cosmictusk.com/perfect-match-scientist-baillie-discovers-perfect-correlation-between-ice-chemistry-spikes-and-mayan-long-count-calendar/#comments.

  53. tckev says:

    I wonder if you have looked at tallbloke site recently? He has a topic called ‘Interesting thoughts at Klimaforskning’ and links to


    which has some very interesting discussion on climate. There are some very interesting observations and data. I wonder what your take on it is?

  54. sabretoothed says:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4401888805004 1/2 of Western Men have a genetic link to King Tut LOL

    <b[Reply: Again, not all that surprising given that we’ve got a load of Celts all over the place, including Egypt. Go back far enough, we are all 100% related. It’s a math thing… -E.M.Smith ]

  55. sabretoothed says:

    Blonde Egyptians? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=256369757800100&set=a.193730050730738.28211.193285490775194&type=1&theater

    [Reply: But we’ve already seen that Ramsis was a redhead and that Celts were wandering around as mercenaries. Isn’t it already obvious that the Egyptians of today are not the Egyptians of back then? -E.M.Smith ]

  56. sabretoothed says:

    http://www.philipcoppens.com/china_pyr.html In 1920, historian Henri Cordier wrote: “China’s ancient past is denied both to us and its population.” The Chinese government has planted trees and bushes with large prickly thorns to hide massive ancient pyramid constructions under the plants. China has also put a travel ban on 4,500-year-old Chinese mummies with Caucasian features. So what does the Government want to hide, red-headed Emperors?

  57. sabretoothed says:

    http://chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/mystery-human-ancestor-found-in-african-genes/30223 Henry Harpending, an anthropologist at the University of Utah, added in an e-mail that “there are funny findings in African archaeology that no one understands very well,” tools that can’t be easily linked to groups that anthropologists know about. He singled out “some beautiful stone harpoon points …, at about 110,000 years ago from the Congo basin. They are unlike anything for another 70,000 years.” These oddities point to archaic human populations that so far have escaped scrutiny

  58. crosspatch says:

    I think someone would weigh only 4x as much in Uranus as Earth … and Uranus is cold, really cold, too cold, colder than it is supposed to be. If it wasn’t revolving on the right plane in the right direction, I would say Uranus was captured, not formed here. But Uranus doesn’t have near the heat it should have. There’s a lot of really weird stuff about Uranus.

  59. P.G. Sharrow says:

    @crosspatch; a close examination of Venus, Earth/Moon pair, the Uranus system and Neptune lead me to believe that our solar system has been effected by several close encounters with large interlopers. 4&half billion years is a long time. Our galaxy is made up from several smaller galaxies and their orbital momentum is preserved. Lots of moving parts only semi organized as a whole. pg

  60. crosspatch says:

    One of the stranger weather patterns I have seen for a while here in the water vapor loop:


    We have a storm in the Gulf of Alaska heading NORTH. It’s being fed moisture from a “pineapple express” that absolutely hits a wall off the coast of California and does a hard 90-degree left turn and heads due north. Meanwhile, less than 500 miles to the east, we have a little low spinning at about the Oregon/California line sucking in bone dry air and headed southeast. So we’re taking all that Pacific “atmospheric river” moisture and pumping it up into Alaska. That pineapple express is pushing up temperatures in Alaska with Anchorage calling for possibility of rain after midnight. McGrath set a record high for the date of 43 degrees (previous 41).

  61. Chuckles says:

    Some correlations to be pondered. The linked article at Spaceweather is a bit strong on the ‘proof by assertion/assumption’ for my liking


  62. David says:

    Crosspatch, that looks like a quick way to move some heat out of the system.

  63. Chuckles says:

    And another one that strikes a philosophical chord –


  64. adolfogiurfa says:

    PDO hand in hand with La Niña, the perfect couple:

  65. LG says:

    USA – Current snow cover most in 10 years
    From http://iceagenow.info/2013/01/usa-current-snow-cover-10-years/

    January 1 2013: 67%
    January 1 2012: 20%
    January 1 2011: 50%
    January 1 2010: 61%
    January 1 2009: 39%
    January 1 2008: 47%
    January 1 2007: 43%
    January 1 2006: 29%
    January 1 2005: 25%
    January 1 2004: 29%

  66. crosspatch says:

    Interesting article on recent rain in the UK. It really isn’t all that odd in either amount or frequency. It seems maybe it has to do with so much development covering the ground, the water has less chance to soak in.


  67. crosspatch says:

    @LG yes, winter snow cover has been increasing but summer snow cover has decreased a bit. We might see a reversal of that over the next few years. And man, that ridge just off the west coast is like a block wall! Huge tongue of moisture has swept down out of the gulf of Alaska over the past several days, slammed into that ridge this evening and it didn’t budge!

  68. Jerry says:

    In Texas it is a good idea to learn to read even if you are a criminal. :) Need to know what kind of joint you are in before you do anything rash.


  69. crosspatch says:

    See-saw? Notice the difference between these two sea surface temperature anomaly charts one year apart. Looks to me like the Southern Hemisphere ocean is starting to warm and the Northern Hemisphere cooling. So … is an increase in Northern Hemisphere sea ice in order along with a decline to or below normal for Southern Hemisphere sea ice?

    30-Dec-2012: http://weather.unisys.com/archive/sst/sst_anom-121230.gif
    25-Dec-2011 http://weather.unisys.com/archive/sst/sst_anom-121230.gif

  70. E.M.Smith says:


    Those two URLs are the same… I think you wanted this one for 2011:

  71. sabretoothed says:

    Semen can affect a woman’s brain: Study
    “A team of researchers has discovered a protein in semen can affect a woman’s brain, prompting ovulation.

    The research, led by Gregg Adams of the University of Saskatchewan, says male mammals have accessory sex glands that contribute seminal fluid to semen. But the researchers noted the role of the fluid and the glands was not well known.

    “From the results of our research, we now know that these glands produce large amounts of a protein that has a direct effect on the female,” Adams said in a release about the study.”

  72. sabretoothed says:


    Police say more than 100 people have died of exposure as northern India deals with historically cold temperatures.

    Police spokesman Surendra Srivastava said Thursday that at least 114 people have died from the cold in the state of Uttar Pradesh. At least 23 of those died in the past 24 hours.

    Srivastava said many of the dead were poor people whose bodies were found on sidewalks or in parks.

    The weather department said temperatures in the state were 4 to 10 degrees Celsius (7 to 18 degrees Fahrenheit) below normal.

    Temperatures in New Delhi, which borders Uttar Pradesh, hit a high Wednesday of 9.8 degrees (49.6 Fahrenheit), the lowest maximum temperature in the capital since 1969.

  73. crosspatch says:

    Thanks. Also, this may interest some:


    Dr. Roger Cohen has resigned from the Executive Committee of the American Physical Society’s Topical Group on the Physics of Climate because of the bias shown toward individuals who believe that things other than CO2 have significant climate impact.

  74. crosspatch says:

    Might also be interesting:


    The book is available in ebook form for about half the printed price.

  75. sabretoothed says:

    My Dog actually gets angry at some people just by they way they walk lol http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9781000/9781778.stm

  76. I came across Hotson in the last few days. This is an alternate view of Physics, the Universe and Everything that makes sense to me as a heretical physicist, but I need a lot longer thinking about it to achieve anything near understanding of it. It’s an idea ideally suited to EM’s background processing of ideas, and I’d like to get some more viewpoints on it to help mine along. In the same way as string theory, it needs 10 dimensions (Brane theory needs 11 dimensions) and the maths is well beyond my pay-grade at the moment. On the other hand, Hotson seems to have taken the bits that make sense and woven it into a whole cloth that may just give a better understanding and thus lead to new technologies.

    Click to access HotsonPart1.pdf

    Click to access HotsonPart2.pdf

    http://blog.hasslberger.com/docs/HotsonIE86.pdf (a discussion essay)

  77. Personally, I don’t accept EM’s explanation of how he can generate so much writing on so many subjects. I think he’s actually a collection of clones made by some secret scientist (probably EM himself (or himselves?)). It’s either that or he’s actually a super-powerful computer called Mike who’s somewhere hidden on the Moon. The second explanation doesn’t fit as well, since there are recorded meetings of EM and pg at which duck was eaten and wine drunk.

    Whatever the real explanation, I’m very happy to read everything even if I don’t always comment. Thanks and Happy New Year to all.

  78. P.G. Sharrow says:

    Perhaps all of us have you all fooled. ;-) pg

  79. J Martin says:

    This guy, Adam Garfinkle reckons income tax and corporation tax should be abolished and replaced by VAT.


  80. J Martin – the article is well-written and I see the point. I think he’s got some figures wrong, though, as to the size of government in real terms. If you take the number of people in commercial jobs times the average wage, and the number of people in public service jobs times the average wage, I suspect (though don’t know for sure) that the money spent on either is around equal. The VAT rate would thus need to be of the order of 50%. Simplifying the tax laws, though, might also result in a lot of accountants/tax lawyers etc. being out of a job. It would be a painful transition, so it’ll probably have to wait until after the next revolution.

    Noting also that quite a few states have their own sales tax, which is VAT lite but still of the order of 20% sometimes, means that in some states (Kalifornia?) the VAT rate would need to be higher still.

  81. bruce says:

    “The national meteorological administration said China is seeing dropping temperatures partly because of south-moving polar cold fronts, caused by melting polar ice from global warming. ”
    So which end is up?

  82. adolfogiurfa says:

    @J Martin You must know that wherever in the world a VAT tax has been implemented, the income tax has survived and it is applied along with a fuel tax: It is the case of my country where 97-98 octane fuel costs $7.30, income tax= 30% and VAT=18%…Of course there is no deficit and GDP grows at a rate of >6% per year; public debt is around the 20% of the GDP.

  83. tckev says:

    I was told of this little story before, it’s been around a while, so if you’ve seen it before enjoy it again. If it’s your first time it’s a good laugh at modern financial practice.
    It’s called ‘The parable of the ox’, originally from London’s Financial Times and it’s written up here –

  84. E.M.Smith says:

    I have three or four postings stacked up ‘to be written’ and ended up being sucked into a thread over at WUWT.


    up thread from there are many comments on nuclear power, food, seeds, and “not running out” of stuff and energy like oil and gas.


    Great story! I’d not seen it before…

    @Adolfo & J. Martin:

    We don’t need new, different, or larger taxes. We need less and smaller government.


    There is always variation in immune response in a diverse population (or every species would eventually become extinct…). I have a bit of ‘excessive immunity’ and just blow off things that cause other folks to spend a couple of weeks in bed. I think it’s the Neanderthal and ‘post plague’ options combined…


    Have to read the physics stuff tomorrow. Looks interesting, but I’m back in ‘catch up’ mode…

    Unless I can get EM.2 or EM.3 clones to take a look while I’m sleeping… ;-)

    (The spouse, BTW is a natural clone. She’s 1/2 of an identical twin pair… )


    The pointy end is down (so it sticks in the dirt) and the flat end is up (so it can be endlessly pounded)…

    Really, though, IMHO they are just “making stuff up” that sounds good. It’s cold in China as the sun has gone sleepy and the lunar tidal mode has shifted to cold. It will be like this for the next decade or two, getting generally colder the whole time (with sporadic slightly warmer years).

  85. adolfogiurfa says:

    @E.M.: You are always right!, but it happens that a certain kind of humans who abhor working postulate to be elected politicians or, which is the majority of them, if you are rich enough to have servants and butlers, you choose one or a few of them who may kill their own mothers if you ask for it and send them to postulate as political candidates ( In the uncommon eventuality that some of them could betray you, you can “impeach” them at any time). This is why governments all around the world have become the easier way to get rich or to increase wealth, and “we the people” have become “we the fools”.

  86. Jason Calley says:

    @ E.M. “We don’t need new, different, or larger taxes. We need less and smaller government.”

    Whenever I talk with people who propose to replace one tax with another “better” tax, I always have the same little mental scenario play out in my mind. I imagine myself in a Doctor’s office. The Doctor says, “Good news, Jason! We have completely cured you of that malignant cancer! Now, what disease would like as it’s replacement?”

  87. adolfogiurfa says:

    See these marked sea water temperatures anomalies, in the southern seas, now in SUMMER TIME!

  88. P.G. Sharrow says:

    The “Tallbloke” has an interesting post on what happens to England and north Europe when the Atlantic cools:
    Hurricane Sandy may be just a wakeup for the north Atlantic. pg

  89. J Martin says:

    From RT.

    For years, the Elites of the West have cranked up the myth of Man Made Global Warming as a means first and foremost to control the lives and behaviors of their populations. Knowing full well that their produce in China and sell in the West model and its consequent spiral downward in wages and thus standards of living, was unsustainable, the elites moved to use this new “science” to guilt trip and scare monger their populations into smaller and more conservatives forms of living. In other words, they coasted them into the poverty that the greed and treason of those said same elites was already creating in their native lands.


  90. Jason Calley says:

    @ J Martin I think you are right. Consider this small addition: Most people today have very little interaction with day-to-day Amish style farming. On the other hand, two or three hundred years ago, wealthy gentlemen were expected to have basic knowledge of good farm practices — including the fact that to keep land productive (and profitable) it has to be left fallow at times. The men who created the beginnings of the modern banking system two or three hundred years ago understood that a similar cycle works to maximize profit on a national scale and a hundred year time line. We (the USA) have just reached the 100 year mark of financial harvesting by the Federal Reserve. Time to go fallow.

    Just my opinion…

  91. adolfogiurfa says:

    @P.G.: Fast changes in the global magnetic fields:


  92. P.G. Sharrow says:

    @Adolfo; I have always felt there was a connection between geo-magnetic fields and barometric high/low pressure areas, ocean current changes, and magmic rock movements. Vukcevic does an excellent job of following this train of thought by examining earth currents and magnetic fields. There should also be minute changes to the local gravity due to EMF field changes. pg

  93. P.G. Sharrow says:

    @EMSmith; BBC article on results of a simulated 17 month Mars Mission:
    The need for lighting management is much more important then previously thought. pg

  94. sabretoothed says:

    Why are humans so egocentric and think Earth is separate from the Solar system?





    In the 1930s, a few large vortices were born on Jupiter. These storms persisted for decades, until finally, around 2000, they stopped repelling each other and merged. Marcus notes that “vortices come and vortices go,” but the question of why has not been clearly established. Marcus wrote a paper theorizing what changes could be happening to cause the vortices to form or decay. Marcus’s theory is that if the atmosphere of Jupiter is heating up, effects will start to show up, such as waves and vortices created from the instability. The changes should also be noticed from about 34 degrees south to north of the equator. Part of this climate change theory included the idea that it would take a while before the effects could be seen.





    Research shows that large earthquakes occur at low sunspot frequencies. A sample of global earthquakes greater than Magnitude 6 for the period 1973-2005 (USGS) compared to smoothed monthly sunspot figures (SIDC) show that 71% of earthquake energy is released and 59% of earthquake events occur at lower than average sunspot activity.


  95. E.M.Smith says:

    Sigh… Sucked into WUWT again… Someday I’ll learn focus and discipline…

    A bit on Malthus, Club of Rome, et. al.:

    @P.G. Sharrow:

    They could have just asked me, I’d have told them ;-)

    I suppose they tried it with LED bulbs ;-)


    I see Adolfo and J. Martin and more have interesting things for me to follow up! Hey, it’s only approaching midnight and I’ve only got 4 postings waiting to be written … ;-)


    OK, read it. Those jerks are re-learning what I spent 3.5 months in a box for NASA for them to already learn. They need to look up “Social Isolation and Circadian rhythms” or some such by Drs. Belgian and Rockwell. about 1973.

    They need a day / night cycle. Enough lumens for day to be triggering the eye (blue 540 nm). Night needs to have gradual onset (dim lights an hour before lights out). Yes, some folks go long and some go short on ‘free run’ (we did that – dim fluorescents 24 x 7 for a few weeks – I have a 25 hour day.) Sheesh. All those things were already answered.

    Maybe I need to call up NASA and remind them I already gave them those answers. Even the right psych profile to select folks who don’t get depressed living in a can for months…

  96. Another Ian says:


    For appreciation of English useage!

    “Keith DeHavelle
    Posted Jan 7, 2013 at 9:10 PM | Permalink | Reply
    They were worried about being burned:
    The first thing they hoped Sommer learned
    Was “how much was still out?”
    They had reason to doubt
    And feared even more. That fear was earned.

    The size Sommer computed for mails
    Dwarfs releases — the six thousand pales:
    CG2′s likely stored
    The complete whored horde’s hoard
    We will see more of massive Team fails

    ===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

    Posted Jan 7, 2013 at 10:18 PM | Permalink | Reply
    “. . . The complete whored horde’s hoard . . .”

    Now that’s what I call “wordplay.” Well done, Keith.

    From http://climateaudit.org/2013/01/07/a-new-puzzle-two-versions-of-the-sommer-report/#comments

  97. P.G. Sharrow says:

    An interesting illusion of oil dripping …UP :
    A free standing exhibit of oil leaking up from the base and into a punctured oil can. pg

    @EMSmith: about Mars mission research. I guess it is easier to get a new research grant then it is to do research on previous work. It doesn’t appear that they even advanced the science as far as you guys did. Kind of like reinventing the wheel and neglecting the axle and bearings. It’s no wonder NASA is no longer space competent. pg

  98. sabretoothed says:


    They found that there does appear to be a correlation between amount of VEI 5+ eruptions and the 41 k.y. Milkankovich obliquity frequency for the most recent sediment. (The dating can become more problematic with older sediment.) This 41 k.y. obliquity is a cycle based on the tilt of the Earth’s poles from 22.5 to 24.5 degrees, and as the obliquity changes, the climate also changes, so that ice volume decreases and sea level increases as climate warms. However, the peak volcanism trailed behind the highest rates of sea level change by around 4,000 years.

  99. E.M.Smith says:


    A nicely done strobe effect ;-)

    I hope the press release was just not covering what they really did at NASA…

  100. sabretoothed says:

    If its so constant what happened in 1600 and is light the only frequency it emits??

    NASA : http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/08jan_sunclimate

  101. Michael Jaye says:

    A recent comment of yours left at WUWT caught my attention because it is quite applicable to me and my unsuccessful efforts to garner acceptance of my discoveries: I am an upstart, and I am fighting to find a place at the “geology” table.

    So perhaps you might entertain the materials found in the slide presentations: (1) http://www.threeimpacts-twoevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SIMULTANEOUS-IMPACTS-3JAN2013-WEBSITE.pdf and (2) http://www.threeimpacts-twoevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/COMET-IMPACT-ANALYSIS-AND-EFFECTS-3JAN2013-WEBSITE.pdf ?

    The slide presentations represent a gentlemanly attempt to convey my interpretation of Google Maps (Satellite View) data that results in a different version of the truth regading Earth’s history, and I am sharing it (anonymously for now) in the hope that it might be found and recognized.

    WUWT comment: “Scientists” play an interesting game. It is most suited to people who like to play Bridge. (That, BTW, is a mild insult in my world view… as Bridge has much artifice in it…) They make complicated movements based on artifice and guile inside a system designed to consume much time in artificial complexity. The purpose of all this is the entertainment value to themselves as much as actually “winning”. So you get endless bickering over the minutia of thesis vs theory vs hypothesis vs law vs conjecture. Much less discussion of actual understanding and rapid discovery of truth. Similarly all the layers of nuance (that, too, is an insult in my world view…) attached to what is a ‘paper’ vs a ‘comment’ vs a presentation at a conference that wasn’t quite a paper or a comment…
    It all makes grand sense to them as they bid “2 Spades no trump” knowing all the time the sub-rosa sniffle will tell their partner to spike that bet in “review”… the ‘game within a game’…
    So one of the “rules” is that if you didn’t play Bridge in THEIR tournament, you didn’t play at all. Unless you were officially recognized as part of the bid round, you simply don’t exist. Sniff.
    Things never “officially published” are not “papers” so do not have “standing” and thus are not in existence. One does not recognize that which does not exist. Sniff sniff…
    It’s all so terribly silly and so terribly boring. (Not to mention wasting a lot of time and impressing no one but the Bridge Devotees…)
    While I would hope that in the age of “never forgetting” internet archives some future historian will recognize who actually discovered what “way first”; don’t hold your breath waiting.
    There’s a long history in “science” of folks finding other folks writings to plagiarize and call it “research”. And as long as your “paper” is accepted on the bid first, you are the one who is in the Bridge game and only you can ever be recognized by all the other players. That’s one of the rules after all…
    Frankly, that behaviour is one of the largest “issues” I have with science as it is practiced today. The sheer layers of artifice and games layered on top of what ought to be simply gentlemanly search for truth, sharing of it, and recognition of who had the idea first. It’s become too much like a court of law where if you don’t have the right chain of custody and chops from the right strokers your evidence of existing is disappeared… So don’t expect those not ‘in the club’ to be recognized by the judges of the show…
    (No, not all players, and not all the time. Every one in a million an upstart makes it to the table… but only after paying the right dues and making the right bids and often stroking the right egos… )

  102. P.G. Sharrow says:

    @Michael Jaye; It is much easier to create progress IF you are not concerned WHO gets credit. I keep poking thoughts into the internet and from time to time they get reflected back to me. “Great Minds” think alike. If you are a “Professional” you need stature. If you are an inventor you just want results. Professionals only know what they were taught, what is in the book. They generally do not create original thought, improvement only evolves as the old ones die off as they can not be retrained. pg

  103. E.M.Smith says:

    @Michael Jaye:

    Interesting ideas. Would require a more ‘liquid’ interface between continents and mantle, but we have liquid coming out of volcanoes so ‘who knows’… but the seismic data supports a generally viscous connection. Like the way the striations are used as information. Probably needs some more detailed evidence. (Or, in the vernacular, nice conjecture, now needs data and mechanism supported to turn it into a testable hypothesis. IFF I got that ‘finesse’ right ;-)

    On the sub ocean canyons: Very interesting square box land form sub Atlantic. But there are geologic process that make square things. Would be interested in knowing if anyone has ‘cored’ that area. The canyon erosion analysis for Monterey Canyon is nice too, but you would need to counter the present theory and evidence for sub-sea erosion activity that has been measured. Basically, a ‘slurry’ of mud can act like a river. See lahars on volcanoes for an above sea example.

    So while I admit that the formation of canyons in the continental shelf is very suggestive of water flow in above ocean rivers, there can be ‘other flows’ that could act the same.

    Click to access 05_canyondynamics.pdf

    Finally, a 1500 km (or was it mile? have to read it again…) comet strike, even a ‘fluffy’ one, would have so much energy as to be non-survivable. I suggest considering an alternative. We know that large comets break up into ‘strings’ from watching Jupiter. Consider that possibility of one smaller, but still large, impact with a hoard of smaller ones strung out after it. Spread the energy out so that it doesn’t cause extinction. Having the first wave hit an ice or water location (if oceans were 2 miles further down, there ought to have been some very glaciated heights) lets you get some of the water down first, without too much grief, then ‘the biggy’, followed by a ‘basin filling’ string that is mostly impacting extant ice and water (so not as traumatic).

    In short, a ‘string of pearls’ solves some of the massive energetics problem.

    Interesting to read speculative stuff, BTW. One of my ‘complaints’ about the way ‘science’ is done today is that the “exploring ideas’ part is vilified in the (self serving) interest of ego building. There are a lot of folks like me, thus all the “non-scientific” magazines that give voice to interesting ideas. If we could all just explore ideas freely and find holes, or not, letting lots of “wacky” or different ideas float around, IMHO, we would advance far far faster. Best case, the ‘wacky’ idea that is right gets discovered and accepted much faster. Worst case? We get to explore some very interesting ‘thought experiments’ and everyone gets to see what kind of thinking and evidence falsifies them. IMHO having folks learn a lot in either case.

    The present “bury it and insult” and “insider games / bullying” doesn’t help anyone but the old fossil with a reputation to defend and ego to inflate. All just MHO, of course.


    Very well said. That’s why I’ve characterized what I do as “Ploughing the field” and if I turn up something someone can use, I’d “appreciate a foot note”. Not a lot of ego in a maybe of a footnote. ( I have one already! That I know of.)

    I’m just not patient enough to wait 20 years for ONE idea to get somewhere, worrying it and pushing it and fighting political turf wars over it. I need to be ‘turning over’ a dozen a year ( or maybe a month some times ;-) or I just feel suffocated. More the hydraulic miner than the guy with a pick and a hard rock hole in the ground… MUCH messier, and with a huge pile of crap that got moved around in the process, covered in muck and mud… but with a fair pile of interesting ‘glitter’ that got washed out in the process.

  104. Michael Jaye says:


    A few comments:

    – The energy imparted by the objects involved in the simultaneous impacts created the interface that allowed the continents to move as they did. The simultaneous impacts created the tectonic plates.

    – Verification of the first conjecture could be accomplished by drilling deep into the remnant areas. I strongly suspect that the composition of the objects would match that of the “Mars rock” that was in the news recently….

    – Comet composition is such that they are very porous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempel_1) and so an impact would be much different than that from a meteor. Think of a snow ball impacting a brick wall.

    – The impact created an semi-circular arc of heights that are almost completely covered by the waters the comet introduced – at least two miles compressive uplifting of crust materials. Note the magnetic anomaly in the impact area.

    – MBARI has cause and effect reversed: the slides they have observed come about due to the canyon which was created prior to the comet impact. There is no way that subsurface currents could have created the now-submerged features, particularly over the distances involved. The diffusivity of the medium makes such a conjecture an absurdity. Monterey Canyon was formed by exposed, flowing water – and for a very long time.

    – Obtaining sediment samples from the submerged delta, then analyzing and dating organic compounds, will validate this second hypothesis.

    – Wacky?! Not at all. These explanations are so obvious that, in retrospect, what is really wacky is to consider all the pseudo-science that we accept from the so-called ‘experts.’

  105. sabretoothed says:

    Pre-industrial CO2 level was not lower than current levels and both are low in the entire geologic record. Climate models assume pre-industrial levels were lower and CO2 increase causes temperature increase. IPCC predictions are consistently wrong because falsified data and incorrect assumptions produce inaccurate results, but that was their goal.

  106. E.M.Smith says:

    @Michael Jaye:

    I thought I had enough separation between paragraphs and that putting it in quotes made it clear that the “wacky” I was talking about was a generic idea, not your idea in particular, and that it often was not really wacky, but just characterized that way ( as in plate techtonics itself that went from ‘wacky’ to ‘dogma’ in my lifetime; or quantum mechanics that did the same, or …)

    My complaint was a generic one about novel ideas being vilified as ‘wacky’ instead of explored liberally and without invective. I like exploring ‘wacky’ ideas as they are often where new understanding sprouts… My current ‘muse’ in that context being that the lunar-tidal cycle looks most likely as the strongest driver of ‘ocean and climate cycles’ with solar as a synchronized addition. Yes “astrology” may have gotten it right in a rough way as the position of the planets (due to orbital resonance) will accurately predict weather, and through it crop failures, wealth cycles, and the collapse of societies… Not the astrology of “you will have a lucky day” from the newspapers, but the older one of study of the heavens and how they influence events on earth in aggregate. So it is “astrology” not astrology and “wacky” not wacky and likely correct while being more interesting too ;-)

    So I don’t know if your ideas are right or wrong, but I do find them interesting and something that would be worth testing. BTW, I’m not saying the present theory of sub-sea canyons is right. (The theory is extraordinarily young. They still don’t know for sure what is happening and only barely have data showing something is still happening). I’m mostly just putting a pointer to it for “compare and contrast”. Personally, I don’t see how it can make meanders that match what we see. Fluid dynamics are wrong. It might also be interesting to calculate how high a polar glacier set would need to be to get sea level down that low. Could these have been formed in a ‘snowball earth’ phase that we didn’t recognize? ( I don’t know, just saying we need to ‘check it’ to assure it isn’t a reasonable option.)

    In short, like I said, it’s interesting stuff that needs to be compared to the alternatives and data gathered to compare what fits.

    Another idea that just came to mind. Folks talk a lot about passing through ‘galactic dust’ or dust clouds. But could not some of those ‘dust’ clouds be made of ice crystals? So one way around the energetics problem of that large a bolide is a smaller one in large field of ‘ice dust’. Just saying it is ‘like a snowball’ isn’t enough. The impact energy doesn’t go away just because the mass is ‘lightly packed’. You have X tons of mass doing Y velocity coming to 0 velocity in the time period from top of atmosphere to dirt. That makes a 1000 Gigatons of nukes look like chump change. So things have to be spread out. Less mass per unit time, or tiny bits up high in the air each dumping a bit of energy with low impact velocity and then literally ‘raining down’.

    It really is a problem that needs math wrapped around it. Exactly now much energy, in what size space, how fast. If the energetics are “makes a thermonuclear Tzar Bomb look like a firecracker” that is a problem even if it comes in a snowball. The 1908 Tunguska event was thought to be a ‘snowball’ that did an air detonation.


    believed to have been caused by the air burst of a large meteoroid or comet fragment at an altitude of 5–10 kilometres (3–6 mi) above the Earth’s surface. Different studies have yielded widely varying estimates of the object’s size, on the order of 100 metres (330 ft)

    So a 100 meter lump causes a nuke sized event that burns and flattens trees for miles around. Doesn’t matter if it is made of snow, either. The energy is all that matters. MV^2 and how it is spread over time and space. You have it at one time in one place. That’s too much from my intuitive point of view (though needs math / testing) so I’m suggesting ways around that problem. You want 2 miles of water, over the present 70% surface of the planet, you can’t get that in one whack without killing every living thing on land. Need to spread it out. ( 40 days and 40 nights? ;-)

    That isn’t an attack on your ideas. It is a suggestion of ways to make the physics work better.

  107. crosspatch says:

    The “Pineapple Express” is being pushed all the way up into Alaska with warming temperatures promising significant rains in Prince William Sound and Anchorage this weekend. The snow will turn to rain and may persist for a while.


  108. E.M.Smith says:


    That sounds familiar. Now where did I hear that, a while ago even…


  109. Steve C says:

    Looks like keeping humans awake at night isn’t the only unexpected side-effect of LED lighting. It also degrades chrome yellow in (expensive) paintings of sunflowers …

    “The research focused on three shades of chrome-yellow paint, which is otherwise known as lead chromate. The most regular form of this colouring, middle yellow, was found to be chemically stable. But two other variations – primrose and lemon shades – began to turn brown or olive green when placed under the green-blue rays emitted by some LED lights.”

  110. DirkH says:

    Steve C says:
    13 January 2013 at 10:06 am
    “The most regular form of this colouring, middle yellow, was found to be chemically stable. But two other variations – primrose and lemon shades – began to turn brown or olive green when placed under the green-blue rays emitted by some LED lights.”

    a) Tactical LED flashlight – 50 bucks.
    b) Museum ticket – 10 bucks.
    c) Destroying an ultra expensive Van Gogh – Priceless.

  111. Chuck Johnson says:

    Thought you might find this interesting
    Statewide quake in California may be possible after all

  112. adolfogiurfa says:

    This is not a common “Niña”, it´s an Anti-El Niño :

  113. E.M.Smith says:


    I think you may need more than one ticket… it takes a while ;-)

    @Chuck Johnson:

    Oh Joy… sarc;>

    Well, I always figured it could happen anyway. The ‘good news’ is that the ground shake in any one area tends to be due to the local energy, so my home risk isn’t much different.

    Still would be a mess though.


    Not seeing a lot of warmth in that ocean…

  114. adolfogiurfa says:

    “The chilling global warming”= CGW :-)

  115. P.G. Sharrow says:

    Big kid toys; The Germans have tested Laser weapon that can cut through a half inch beam from 2/3 miles away.

    Part of an integrated weapon system. pg

  116. crosspatch says:

    Saw a flock of snow geese for the first time here. We often see Canada geese but this was the first time I saw snow geese here. Palo Alto, CA circling in the thermals above US 101 to gain altitude at about 11AM.

  117. Chuckles says:

    At last there’s a Linux distribution you can relate to!, and you CAN assume a ‘Spherical Cow’


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  119. Sera says:

    @ Chuckles:
    How now, round cow?

  120. J Martin says:

    I voted in the Web Bloggies awards, the usual suspects in their own sections, but this year added an extra blog;

    OK. I used the link via WUWT that Tallbloke provided in his comment. Didn’t realise I had to vote for at least 3 entries. Included Chiefio this year as well, in the Best Kept Secret Webblog !


  121. j ferguson says:

    I thought Fedora was pretty much old hat.

  122. sabretoothed says:

    [Reply: OMG, that’s funny! And just Soooo L.A. ;-) -E.M.Smith]

  123. crosspatch says:

    Germany is repatriating all of the gold it has on deposit with the US Federal Reserve. Netherlands might be right behind them. Read through the last two days of posts at Zero Hedge.

  124. Sera says:

    Blitzkrieg Bop

  125. Sera says:

    SS maintains an Earning Suspense File (ESF)? Have you ever heard of this?


  126. E.M.Smith says:


    Never heard of it, but conforms to usual accounting practices for “suspense” files where error stuff piles up…

    Love the robot drummer, BTW… One wonders how hard it would be to program a lot of songs and the send them out on a road trip ;-)

  127. sabretoothed says:

    ► A longer solar cycle predicts lower temperatures during the next cycle. ► A 1 °C or more temperature drop is predicted 2009–2020 for certain locations. ► Solar activity may have contributed 40% or more to the last century temperature increase. ► A lag of 11 years gives maximum correlation between solar cycle length and temperature.

    Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics

    Volume 80, May 2012, Pages 267–284

    The long sunspot cycle 23 predicts a significant temperature decrease in cycle 24



  128. sabretoothed says:

    Will this comet seed earth with some bacteria or viruses ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgviRy2A0GA&feature=youtube_gdata

  129. Sera says:

    @ EM:

    Please tell me that those are Nixie tubes in the bass players eyes.

  130. sabretoothed says:

    [Reply: Remarkably well done, and, more disturbingly, it matches what I know of Quantum Mechanics and the mind. On the one hand, it is fun to imagine things like “We create time by our thinking process”, OTOH, that leads to some very disturbing ideas about ‘reality’… -E.M.Smith]

  131. sabretoothed says:

    The Sun – its not just Vitamin D – NO2 as well Happy gas

  132. adolfogiurfa says:

    A new EL NIÑO has change direction, now it´s pointing southwards:

  133. crosspatch says:

    Tolbachik volcano in far eastern Russia continues erupting. Four cinder cones have formed on the flanks and over 1 square kilometer of basalt has erupted so far.

  134. crosspatch says:

    Uhm … no. El Nino does not “point” southward. Trade winds do not blow in that direction. Notice the “cold tongue” coming from the west coast of South America along the equator pointed at New Guinea. We are currently in an El Nino “neutral” condition with temperatures recently falling toward La Nina (but there is some indication from the trade wind anomalies that the far western portion may warm up a little in the next week or so). La Nina / El Nino are basically artifacts of the trade winds.

  135. E.M.Smith says:


    Didn’t know that EL NIÑO could have a direction… but that SST chart has a whole lot of blue on it and not much yellow / green. The whole thing looks like it is cooling down, modulo a couple of fine grain spots that are above the average (as must always exist … we can’t all be ‘below average’ ;-)


    “Those are nixie tubes”. Feel better?

    (Personally, I’d use an LED and plexiglass light pipe…)


    What ought to happen, IMHO, is that as we enter ever increasing lunar driven tidal forces, we ought to get more quakes, more volcanoes that erupt longer, and a colder stirred ocean so colder weather.

    So far looks like we’re making the ‘turn’ to that direction, at least on ocean behaviour and volcanoes (with cold weather now, but not enough ‘time in grade’ to shout about it.)

    Also, IMHO, the El N. vs La N. is an artifact of two things. The generally accepted winds (that causes the exact state and the fast / frequent swaps) and the ocean currents as stirred by the lunar tidal state and Drake Passage effects (that sets the background bias – that is WHY Bob Tisdale finds a series of ‘step up’ in temps tied to asymmetrical El vs La states. A the “base note” shifts to more cold we will do a similar “steps” of step-flat-step-flat but to the cold side.

    To the extent that speculation of mine is shown valid, then the El / La state is set by both the winds and the oceans / tides / currents; but on different time scales.



    Those two set the table, then the winds react and serve the meal… IMHO of course ;-)

  136. crosspatch says:

    Well, I think it is safe to say that volcanism will increase simply because the past century has been an anomalously low period in volcanic activity. So no matter what predictions are to be made concerning an increase in volcanic activity, they are likely to come to pass simply because a return to “normal” levels of volcanic activity would be an increase from what we have been having. Also, it is my experience that periods of anomalously low anything is generally followed by a period of anomalously high of that thing. A period of drought broken by flood, a period of no tornadoes broken by a flurry of them, a period of no landfalling hurricanes followed by a period of a lot of them. That is how we create an “average”. We rarely have an “average year”. But for volcanoes, probably is good that the next 100 years will be a lot more active than the past 100 years simply because the last 100 years have been unusually quiet.

  137. adolfogiurfa says:

    @crosspatch It seems that volcanic activity, as understood by the theorists of the electric universe/electric earth, is also caused by EMF, so the sequence could be: all connected suns at the galaxy level, as it is obvious in this IR light image of Andromeda:

    Then, changing the input on our Sun and our Sun changing it on our Earth (not to forget those electrical driven beings called humans on it, and all the biosphere also :-) ).
    Geosolar oscillation (from M.Vukcevic)

  138. crosspatch says:

    The vortex does split from time to time. According to this source it happens on average about once every two years but it can happen more often, even more than once in a single year. It is a fairly common event but when it happens, we get bitter cold. The models are currently calling for bitter cold over the Eastern US and in Europe between now and early February. We are looking at snow as far south as North Africa in the next week or two. Joe Bastardi is calling for winter to “go hound dog” meaning to go crazy cold between now and the middle of February. The Western US might warm up, though, finally.


  139. E.M.Smith says:


    Just read that Geithner leak link. Wow. Just wow. That is criminal in so many ways. One can only wonder why a half dozen folks are not in prison now with ‘forfeiture’ too.

  140. LG says:

    Snowpocalypse Russia: ‘Snow tsunami’ swallows streets, cars, buildings


  141. crosspatch says:

    That is criminal in so many ways. One can only wonder why a half dozen folks are not in prison now with ‘forfeiture’ too.

    Who is going to bring charges? Holder? His financial office is staffed with lawyers from the very banks the benefited. They aren’t going to bring charges. This administration is without exception the most corrupt Presidential administration in my lifetime and possibly in the history of the US. It is basically a fleecing of the people on a scale never seen in world history with possibly the exception of the later states of the Roman Empire in a relative sense.

    Oh, and this is a must watch. A debate at Oxford on the Occupy Wall Street movement.


  142. crosspatch says:

    Golly, gee willikers, Mr. Brown, I don’t remember you telling us about this BEFORE election day.



    So the taxes are going to go up but I guarantee revenue will fall.

  143. crosspatch says:

    Looks to me like it is time for patriots in Massachusetts to stand up and voice their opinion:

    Massachusetts State Representative David Linsky has filed a new bill that would force gun owners to undergo mental health background checks, pay an additional 25% tax on all forms of ammunition, and require firearms categorized as “assault weapons” to be stored outside of their homes at government approved sites.


  144. sabretoothed says:


    “A mystery wave of cosmic radiation that smashed into Earth in the eighth century may have come from two black holes that collided, according to a new study.

    Clues for the strange event were unearthed last year by Japanese astrophysicist Fusa Miyake, who discovered a surge in carbon-14 – an isotope that derives from high-energy radiation – in the rings of ancient cedar trees.

    Dating of the trees showed that the burst struck the Earth in either 774 or 775 AD.

    But what was the nature of the radiation, and what caused it?”

    Any connection to eruptions? http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv166/globaloro/GloabalTemperatures2500BCto2007ADch.jpg

  145. E.M.Smith says:


    Might want to let those folks know that the 1911_bushing_wrench “has issues”.

    There are two files, each of type .stl ‘trust list’ and the same name (modulo a w vs W that MSoft is too stupid to distinguish) one of which looks more like a type .igs when you look inside of it. Though it looks to end ‘mid stream’. In short, I think the file is munged…

    Don’t know if the rest of the CAD files work, or not, but not so sure I’d want to try it without a test range and remote firing device… (Then again, I don’t have a plastic 3-D printer anyway…)

    Personally, since a STEN can be made by anyone who does mufflers or bicycles, or even a very handy plumber, I’d lean toward that…

    It took me all of about 2 minutes to find these (it was on Onion. Another set was on the open net, but in parts and pieces):

    Click to access sten_mk_ii_plans.pdf

    Though you can find decent drawings in several ‘anatomy of guns’ books and, frankly, once you look at the plans you will realize that it would take a decent engineer about 20 minutes with a CAD package to recreate them (and maybe improve on them).

    “Somewhere” I’ve got a set of drawings for a newer ‘take off’ that is square bolt and square shape and all. Designed for stamped instead of welded tube construction. Perfect for a ‘body shop’ guy…

    Then there is the FP-45 “Liberator” pistol:


    That folks could probably design as a ‘knock off’ in about 10 minutes with CAD systems… These folks will sell you a re-creation / replica of it for only $500 (crazy, I know, but it’s limited production)

    Designed to be made by General Motors, so any “car guy” can likely knock one out.

    Then there is the classical “Zip Gun”:


    A .45 caliber pistol can be made from 3/8 in. nominal diameter steel gas or water pipe and fittings. Lethal range is about 15 yards (13-1/2 meters).

    Steel pipe. 3/8 in. (1 cm) nominal diameter and 6 in. (15 cm) long with threaded ends. 2 threaded couplings to fit pipe
    Solid pipe plug to fit pipe coupling
    Hard wood. 8-1/2 in. x 6-1/2 in. x 1 in. (21 cm x 16-1/2 cm x 2-1/2 cm)
    Tape or string
    Flat head nail, approximately 1/16 in. (1-1/2 mm) in diameter 2 wood screws, approximately 1/16 in. (1-1/2 mm) in diameter
    Metal strap, 5 in. x 1/4 in. x 1/8 in. (12-1/2 cm x 6 mm x I mm)
    Bolt, 4 in. (10 cm) long, with nut (optional).
    Elastic bands
    Drills, one 1/16 in. (1-1/2 mm) in diameter, and one having same diameter as bolt (optional).
    Rod, 1/4 in. (6mm) in diameter and 8 in. (20 cm) long Saw or knife


    1. Carefully inspect pipe and fittings.
    a. Make sure that there are no cracks or other flaws in the pipe and fittings.
    b. Check inside diameter of pipe using a .45 caliber cartridge as a gauge. The cartridge case should fit into the pipe snugly but without forcing.
    c. Outside diameter of pipe MUST NOT BE less than 1-1/2 times the bullet diameter.
    2. Follow procedure of Section III, No. 1, steps 4, 5, and 6.

    etc etc etc.

    Now I would never use one and I only put this here as an example of how simple it is to make something that goes BANG! (even it it might blow your own head off… Did I mention not to do this, under any circumstance?)

    It’s just so crazy to think that weapons can be “controlled” (meaning prohibited and made unavailable). There are dozens of easy ways to make better than these with modern methods and materials. I won’t go into it, but think “composite wrapped metals”… You can form detail shapes in carbon / resin baked in an oven at home. Strength is quite good, and most “stamped” metal parts can have a molded analog made. (Carbon fiber is used for things like engine valve covers on high end race cars… i.e. typical stamped metal bits.)

    Anyone who can model clay and run an oven can make most of the parts needed.

    Technological advance has democratized access to methods and means. TPTB need to realize that. Materials science has not stood still. Heck, all the machining of a ‘trigger group’, firing pin, hammer, et. al. can now be replaced with an electronic circuit and electrode (used in high end performance guns for zero ‘lock time’ ignition.)

    Oh Well.

  146. E.M.Smith says:

    An interesting article (reached from the one Sabertoothed posted about neo-neanderthal baby), but certainly unrelated:

    I knew I was a bit ‘peeved’ about the whole thing, but looks like some other folks are damn pissed. Lots of interesting pictures. One has someone holding a sign that says:

    1694 Knife Murders
    726 With Hands / Feet
    496 With Hammers
    323 With ANY rifle
    “Assault Weapon” ban is just a Witch Hunt

    Does kind of put it in perspective.

    The 2 lb ‘battle hammer’ was used more than the sword in ancient times. Long handle is best. I’d go for 24 oz though… I don’t practice like the old Knights did so need the lighter weight…

    Then again, after a few years of karate, i’ve always got “hands / feet” with me.

    In the kitchen, easy to reach, is a very nice wooden block just filled with very nice knives. Some about a foot long in the blade.

    All much more “available” than my rifles that are locked inside a steel box which combination usually takes me a few minutes to remember… So in an ’emergency’, I guess I’ll likely end up somewhere in the first 3 on the list as ‘most available’…

    I’d also wager there were more poisonings than rifle killings; but they likely are not correctly accounted … “accidental” and all…

    Oh Well…

    Just for fun, try putting on a ‘carpenters belt’ with a hammer holster and going to the grocery store with it. Nobody much says a thing. Sometimes someone will ask what you are working on… the easy answer is “Oh, beer run!”…

    Women, of course, can just slip a horse shoe into a small light shoulder bag and have a very persuasive swung weapon. Most folks don’t know what is in purses… If a horse shoe is not to hand, any one pound metal or ceramic object would likely do… Can of beans is about right for ‘beaning’ someone…

    Weapons laws have never worked for the simple reason that darned near anything can be a weapon. Knitting Needles anyone? Or a cane. Or…

    Can you tell that “stupid politicians” get under my skin?….

  147. Steve C says:

    I rather enjoyed learning about the Zaphod Beeblebrox method of self-defence, as recorded in “The Restaurant at the End of the Universe”:

    “You mean they want to arrest me over the phone?” said Zaphod, “Could be. I’m a pretty dangerous dude when I’m cornered.”

    “Yeah,” said a voice from under the table, “you go to pieces so fast people get hit by the shrapnel.”

  148. crosspatch says:

    Wow, I have never seen such a meridional jet. The jet this morning (look quickly because it will likely change) goes from deep in the tropics, well South of the latitude of Hawaii, practically due North, all the way to Alaska. This jet is pumping warm moist air directly from the tropics to the higher latitudes. We don’t often see this configuration.


  149. J Martin says:

    Not long ago the economy of Russia was about the same size as Belgium, they now expect it may overtake Germany by 2020.

  150. Ian W says:

    GM Crops
    Regulators Discover a Hidden Viral Gene in Commercial GMO Crops
    In the course of analysis to identify potential allergens in GMO crops, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) has belatedly discovered that the most common genetic regulatory sequence in commercial GMOs also encodes a significant fragment of a viral gene (Podevin and du Jardin 2012). This finding has serious ramifications for crop biotechnology and its regulation, but possibly even greater ones for consumers and farmers. This is because there are clear indications that this viral gene (called Gene VI) might not be safe for human consumption. It also may disturb the normal functioning of crops, including their natural pest resistance.”

  151. crosspatch says:

    More weasel word science, Ian. Basically they found something they haven’t seen before and immediately speculate on what it “might” do without any indication whatsoever that it actually does anything at all. And they ” were unable to rule out a hazard to public health or the environment.” which you can not do because it is impossible to prove a negative, you can only prove what DOES happen, you can not prove what does NOT happen. This is actually pretty typical “weaseling” designed to scare people.

    I could do the same. “Scientists” say that the unmanned mission to Pluto could impact something on the way and send it hurtling to Earth and cause a massive disaster on the planet. They have so far been unable to completely rule out the possibility. See how that works?

    Watch this video.


  152. crosspatch says:

    Ouch! The wheels fall off North American rail traffic last week:


  153. E.M.Smith says:

    @Ian W. & Crosspatch:

    Unfortunately, viral parts are common items for your immune system to identify and latch onto. As a person with large tendency to allergies (but very very low tendency to get sick ;-) two sides of same coin…) I’m quite interested in hearing what high-probability allergens are being stuck into my food. Bt toxin, for example, is a known allergen which means it is only a matter of time for me and my immune system before it sensitizes…

    So yeah, not fond of the “maybe might possibly” but the alternative is “wait until a few thousand folks have died from anaphylactic shock and many more thousands have the trots of unknown cause”… The “medical system” is incredibly poor at identification of allergens and allergy mediated problems as it is now. Toss in GMO allergens and the whole thing fails. (“I tested him for wheat allergy, so it’s not wheat” fails when wheat is no longer just wheat…)


    That water loop is amazing. Looks like a river from offshore Mexico to the Gulf of Alaska right now. Just Off Shore… (please stay there… don’t come here… please….)


    At some point, we get a 21st Century Pompeii. Just not clear which city and when, but it will happen.

    @Steve C:

    Tee Hee ;-)

    @J Martin:

    Maybe I need to brush off that Russian book after all… I had one class, 40 years ago… Sort of remember a few words of it, and can pick out “Proton” on the rockets… But since they folded the USSR and we sent over advisers on how to do capitalism from the Regan Era, they learned what works. As long as they keep a low tax rate they will outgrow everyone in the area.

    The Russian designs for technical goods are astounding. Not for how fancy they are, but for how much thought the put into them to get so much from so little. Folks who can, and do, think deep. Take both the boot of the Czar and the Commissar off their throats, well, they can do amazing things. ( I have a couple of Russian guns. ALWAYS shoot. Every time. Hit where they are pointed. Yeah, finish is rough on the outside. Where it matters on the inside is often quite good. Only my Czech guns are more reliable and pretty. The Slavs know how to work metal and make things…) I’d be investing in Russia, but for being reticent about Putin and the lack of ‘rule of law’.


    So we got hit by a gamma ray burst and survived? Nice to know! (Now I need to look up the weather history… Greek cold period? Something like that…)

    As magma rises in the volcano, it forms a buoyant “foam,” according to Rotella and her colleagues. Pieces of the foamy lava quietly detach and float to the surface in the form of lava balloons, Wilson said. The balloons have chilled margins, from contact with the seawater, but are still hot lava in the middle. As they rise, gas bubbles inside uniformly expand as seawater pressure lessens.

    “They’re like some kind of hellish popcorn,” Wilson said.

    Golly… Wonder how much CO2 comes with them, too?…

  154. sabretoothed says:

    Rand Paul: Obama in guns-to-jihadists cover-up?
    ‘A kind of international Fast and Furious in Benghazi’
    Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/01/rand-paul-obama-in-guns-to-jihadists-cover-up/#iXhb3M6eIAy7CD9O.99

  155. crosspatch says:

    So apparently the reason for the cold blast into the Eastern US is because there is no longer any ice at the North Pole: http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/01/23/cnn-meteorologist-declares-the-ice-free-arctic/

  156. Ian W says:

    Here is an interesting (if very blunt) review of the current state of the world economy. The blogger has got it right on a number of occasions before as he has a lot of contacts so it may be worth a thought.


  157. NZ Willy says:

    Write up your diatribe on margarine here, Chiefio, so it can be linked to.

  158. E.M.Smith says:

    Just a quick note to say that I’m on the road and not finding as many hot spots as I expected.

    @N.Z. Willy: Probably a couple of days…

    At any rate, “looking for a Starbucks in all the wrong places” ;-)


    Expect posting to be light and comments may sit for ‘a long while’ if they end up in moderation. Sorry. But LAX just doesn’t have a lot of ‘free access’ near by (nor much you can rent by the hour…) I’m presently at a Burger King across from the lobby of a hotel who has an open lobby network access point. Waiting for a plane… “Flying into Los AnGelEeess, don’t touch…)

    So, gotta go…

  159. sabretoothed says:


    Solar Activity At End Of 20th Century Was At Highest Levels Of Past 9,000 Years

    A 2012 paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences reconstructs solar activity from isotopes in ice cores and tree rings, and finds solar activity at the end of the 20th century was at the highest levels of the past 9,000 years.

  160. Sera says:

    …mr. customs man.”)

  161. PG Sharrow says:

    This is a link to an article on very old artifacts discovered over the years:
    Like really old! Well done with photos. The above mention artifact as well as several others. pg

    @Adolfo; Guess I need to be more careful about loosing things. ;-) pg

  162. LG says:

    Extreme Cold: Hydro-Québec reports record electricity consumption

    Hydro-Québec posted a consumption record Wednesday and the Crown corporation anticipates another historical peak demand Thursday morning.

    Preliminary evaluations show that the historical peak, recorded Wednesday morning was 38 910 MW, breaking the old record set on 24 January 2011.

    This new record was beaten yet again in the evening, with 39,120 MW.

    Crown corporation, which provides the needs of Quebec, expects consumption to reach yet another historical peak of 39,500 MW on Thursday morning.



  163. sabretoothed says:

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/47609610/Rockefellers_and_Rothschilds_Unite WW3 is closer?

    Two of the best-known business dynasties in Europe and the US will come together after Lord Jacob Rothschild’s listed investment trust and Rockefeller Financial Services agreed to form a strategic partnership.

  164. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, back from a ‘marathon week-end’ of down to LA, Disneyland, and back. (Daughter graduation event- actual ceremony to follow later…)

    I’ve now got connectivity without needing to hang out at Starbucks or pay the Motel several dollars a day… for an hour or so I’d actually use it.

    Had a pretty good time, but discovered that the hotel was using some kind of ‘smell neutralizer’ (NOT a fragrance – a masking agent of some kind) that caused me to get slightly puffy eyes, wheezy lungs, and have that “sparkly” feeling like “going to have a fever” that I get when the immune system is gearing up to go ape-shit on something. Glad to be out of the hotel… ( Mostly I just put up with it for the 7 or 8 hours ‘in the room’ and leave the door open a lot. I did do a ‘lite’ version of my ‘decontamination’ procedure: Sprinkle Vinegar “holy water”, wait 20 minutes, mist with ‘household ammonia’ wait 20 minutes, air out). Why “lite”? First off, the spouse wanted ot just go to bed, not spend an hour off somewhere while I did the room treatment… so it was more of a ‘lite’ sprinkle, wait 3 minutes, lite mist, wait 3, air out. Didn’t quite get the job done, but enough that I got about 5 or 6 hours ‘sack time’ before clogging up too much.

    I’d had to deal with this stuff before, so it isn’t a surprise in any way. First noticed it about 15? years ago. They swapped from “stinky stuff” to “nose numb” or whatever it is. (Though I’ve found that low end seedy hotels don’t use it… but the spouse won’t ‘go there’ ;-)

    The other problem is that ‘household ammonia’ looks to be deprecated. All I can find now is blue window cleaner ‘with ammonia’ that doesn’t have enough. (I’ve also used a baking soda solution, but it leaves a white powder film instead of just evaporating. Less smell, though.)

    The “theory” is related to Army chem warfare decontamination. Alternate acid and base to neutralize most stuff. Just using a much more mild acid and base. Guess I’ll have to start making my own ammonia, though…

    So, home now, and catching up with everyone else ;-)

  165. sabretoothed says:


    1.8 gigapixel ARGUS-IS. World’s highest resolution video surviellience platform by DARPA.

  166. DirkH says:

    sabretoothed says:
    27 January 2013 at 11:24 pm
    “1.8 gigapixel ARGUS-IS. World’s highest resolution video surviellience platform by DARPA.”

    Two years ago while watching a gigapixel photo I asked myself… if we have gigapixel stills now, the next step is video – so is somebody already doing it? Yes – found their website back then by googling “gigapixel video”… Nice thing. Waiting for a complete 3D model of the world.

  167. DirkH says:

    Oh and if anyone missed it: Making 3D models from photos or imprecise 3D scans:
    Google microsoft photosynth (uses photos), Autodesk 123D Catch (photos) and ReconstructMe (using Microsoft Kinect). Some nice 3D sculptures done with that on thingiverse.

  168. DirkH says:

    sabretoothed says:
    27 January 2013 at 11:28 pm
    “Face rec project”

    Wear fake mustaches. :-)

  169. Sera says:


  170. Sera says:

    My mother has one each of these for her .38 Special and .45 ACP. All that you need are primers and pellets. http://convert-a-pell.com/automatic/

    On the other hand, there are no reloading supplies in GA- everyone is sold out of everything.

  171. adolfogiurfa says:

    @E.M. You can obtain your own ammonia, by making react ammonium sulphate ( a common and cheap fertilizer) and Hydrated lime:
    (NH4)2SO4 (Mol.W.=132) + Ca(OH)2 (Mol.W.=74) = CaSO4 + 2NH3 + 2H2O. Mix reactants while dry then add water…and voila! , smell it deeply and write a post on what you felt.

  172. E.M.Smith says:


    I first made Ammonia gas (and liquid solution from that) at about 8 years old. Back when chemistry sets had real chemicals in them ;-) It involved heating an ammonia salt. I like your method better (easy cheap available ingredients, no fire needed ;-) but I’ve smelled ammonia before and don’t think I’ll be breathing it ‘deeply’ any time soon!

    In small concentrations it is invigorating, but in high concentrations quite irritating…

  173. crosspatch says:

    I thought all the gimmickry was dead in the PV solar area since Solyndra. Apparently not. It spins!


  174. crosspatch says:

    I happen to favor that sort of electoral college reform with one modification, rather than using congressional districts, just split the electoral votes according to the vote count in the state giving two to the overall winner of the state and splitting the rest proportionally according to vote. The reason is that doing it by district will cause gerrymandering gone wild. We would end up with Illinois having congressional districts that all reached into Chicago.

    The problem I have with “winner take all” is that it allows the single most populated metro area to in most cases control the entire state’s electoral vote allocation. Chicago controls Illinois, Philadelphia controls Pennsylvania, Denver controls Colorado, etc. This disenfranchises the voters in the rest of the state. So I favor proportional allocation, just not by congressional district.

  175. adolfogiurfa says:

    @E.M.: You made me remember I received my first chemistry kit when I was 9 years old, from Santa….

  176. E.M.Smith says:


    Gee, mine was from Santa too! Guess he was more into technology then ;-)

    Come to think of it, he gave me a couple of guns, too. Maybe Santa was a Red Neck too ;-)

  177. adolfogiurfa says:

    @E.M. Perhaps it was the same kit: It was a three parts light blue metal case, which opened like a book and could stand on a table on itself , it included also a microscope.
    About those sea currents: See how those warmer water patches are going up:

  178. crosspatch says:

    Gillard has called for Australia national elections this September.


  179. E.M.Smith says:


    Saw that on the news, and folks were making a fuss about it being a way early call. Perhaps for those of us who don’t have a clue why saying you are calling for an election 9 months in advance is a big deal, someone could enlighten the subtleties?


    Per Ocean Temps:

    You got me. All I can think of is that the surface layer is divorced from the deeper currents so the Humbolt is just down a ways. Also, as those are ‘anomalies’, it could just be an artifact of the base period being colder. That shows up in the Antarctic temp data where one patch always shows hot as it was cold in the GISS baseline. (IIRC)

    Per Chem Set:

    Sounds a lot like it. Each chemical in a small glass bottle. Alcohol lamp for heating. Test tubes and holder. Three fold metal case, open to stand, blue (and white?) cover color. Little booklet of experiments (that were not as interesting as the ones I cooked up on my own ;-) I remember one little bottle had a skull and cross bones on it. Blue liquid.

    I ended up buying a lot of added bits over the years. Various flasks and tubing and beakers. Don’t remember where all I got them. Strange to think that in the middle of Farm Country nowhere in the ’60s one could find labware… I wonder where Dad had to look to find it…

    Strange to think that such a simple thing has resulted in two folks on two different continents comfortable with all sorts of chemistry…

    I looked for one to give my kids. They were banned as being unsafe by then. ( or sued or just intimidated out of existence). The only ‘chemistry sets’ that exist now are not even what I would call chemical toys. I can do more interesting things with the stove and things from the local stores… No heat, no fire, nothing remotely toxic. About as exciting as salt…

    Hmmm….. Maybe I ought to work out a “DIY Chemistry kit”… What chemicals you can commonly get (or make) and how to put them in a ‘kit’… Copper wire. Make some copper sulfate crystals from bug dust… sulphur powder … carbon via char, iron from a nail, HCl from pool acid – then ferric chloride et. al. Gee, that could be a fun process. Starting from what’s available and legal, how to make all the forbidden stuff…

    I think I’ll start with an alcohol lamp and making a stand to ‘cook things’ in a small beaker. (As the DEA has decided “lab ware” is signs you are a drug dealer, I’ll also need to identify alternate forms for ‘lab ware’ – like simple pyrex cookware… It really is stupid. It is just as easy to use pyrex pots as pyrex lab ware, and cheaper too…) The more I think about it, the more this is attractive. “If starting chemistry from ‘scratch’, how would you bootstrap?”

    I have always been fascinated by ‘bootstrapping’ technologies. It would be fitting to start with Chemistry. I think a ‘middle out’ would likely work best. So, for example, have a “buy salt at the store” as the ‘middle’. Then show working backwards to ‘get it from sea water via recrystalization purification for more primitive, and a “make chlorate via electrolysis of salt water” going the other. (You can also get chlorine gas that way… don’t ask ;-) but it’s somewhat voltage dependent…)

    It is at times like this I wish I had a few more lifetimes to get done all that I’d like to do…

  180. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Thanks! It does help. Both the back story (the fraud for frauleins) and that it buys time by pushing the election date way out before it can be demanded up close.

  181. E.M.Smith says:

    As this one was getting slow, there’s a new T10 page:


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