It’s D-Day!

Well, It’s D-Day (for Donald Day ;-)

I’m headed to the polls in about 2 hours.

A check on the Usual MSM Suspects shows them doing a last minute “Praise Biden / Piss on Trump”. Oddly, one, NBC? showed a Biden “rally” that had him standing in front of a house (his?) talking at about 30 people (standing in a herd on the OTHER side of the street) and a half dozen cars…. Another had a new citizen Hispanic Immigrant “damning with faint praise” (though I’m sure they thought it was a compelling bit) saying that it wasn’t about Biden’s ability but about some nebulous “going the right way”…

Sigh. “Regular News” has become a propaganda wasteland. Then again, they must do something to fill the void of thousands of hours of broadcast time with nothing really of interest happening in the world. “Folks are going to work!” “Traffic is bad in Los Angeles!” just are not compelling stories. So they create artificial controversies to talk about them, while hiding any real issues that might damage the Socialist / Progressive Agenda of their masters.

So I’m not seeing anything of interest at all so far in any of “the usual” news sources. I am slightly hobbled by the loss of my Roku where I could quickly search a chosen set of news channels. But Pluto has a pretty good selection too:

Unfortunately, this early on D-Day, it breaks down into MSM being infomercials for Biden and the “Alternative / Right Leaning” channels being navel gazing about Trump’s odds in a world of corruption, vote stealing, and propaganda. None of it really useful just now. But maybe later when some real information forms.

RSBN has election coverage, starting in 7 hours…. So about 2 PM Pacific, 5 PM Eastern:

Tuesday, November 3, 2020 – Turn to the First TV on the most important Election of our lifetime. If you’re tired of the mainstream media overwhelming you with numbers and information without proper perspective…then it’s time to make a change. For the smartest and most honest election coverage available…turn to The First TV. Join Bill O’Reilly, Dana Loesch, Buck Sexton, Jesse Kelly, and Mike Slater for election coverage you can trust.

So as things develop, and then post election IF we have any conclusion about who won, we can cover that news here. IF it turns out that Antifa and BLM (Biden’s Laptop Matters ;-) are rioting in the street, I’ll post links here to coverage sites.

For now, it looks like the only “news” is that in heavily Republican areas the polls are very busy with a lot of in person voting. In heavily Democrat areas they are fairly empty as they were all scared and voted by mail. This is “good news” in that the early results of early voting were “about even”. IF the majority of the Democrat vote is already in, and now the Red Wave crashes over them, it will be a very good night on the Trump Train.

Time will tell.

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178 Responses to It’s D-Day!

  1. Pouncer says:

    In context of Houston’s court decision on “drive through voting” an expert opined to the NPR affiliate that “the laws have not caught up to the process.”

    Which is to say, the process is no longer within the limits of the law.

    And nobody seemed to express any concern about that assessment.

  2. Steve C says:

    Well, although I’ve not been around most of the summer (spent some time wandering around watching civilisation falling apart, don’cha know …) I couldn’t let today pass without wishing you all a peaceful one. From what I’ve been seeing over here, this requires a huge Trump victory and a deal of good luck, so here’s half a pound of Best British luck. If the worst I’ve been reading comes to pass: Been nice knowing y’all … :-|

  3. H.R. says:

    I’m not watching any news today. It will all be gaslighting to attempt to encourage Dem voters and Indies to get out and vote for Biden, since it looks like mail-in isn’t going as well as the Dems had planned.

    The other topic du jour will be… wait for it… Orange Man Bad, it’s hopeless for Trump. Reps and pro-Trump Indies should just stay home and not bother.
    I’ve heard that a few YSM outlets will declare Biden the winner early this evening with just a few percent of votes counted. That’s to discourage Western State voters from stopping by to vote after work since their vote won’t matter. The other piece to that strategy is that the legitimacy of Trumps win can be questioned because, “How could Trump have won without cheating because all of the *ahem* respectable, prestigious news sources had called the election for Biden?”

    I’m not tuning in until late tonight or early morning after the Western polls have closed.

  4. E.M.Smith says:

    Early results are in from New Hampshire Midnight Vote: Trump Wins!!!

    ;-) of course…

  5. Nancy & John Hultquist says:

    I think the news story being missed in the USA, unsurprisingly, is the “opening of the war”** in Europe with the terrorists faction of the Religion of Peace.
    ** “Teacher beheaded in France after showing Mohammed cartoons
    _ _ _ _ _
    Regarding voting in the various States: ours being Washington . . .
    We completed our (mailed to us) ballots on Friday morning and I put them into an empty locked box just after Noon on said day. I know the box was empty because I had to wait about a minute while the pair of ballot retrievers took the existing load into a wheeled cart and headed to a “ballot reading machine” inside.
    What I don’t know is when the reading and tabulation happens. I could ask, but haven’t.
    This is either the 11th or 12th year for this system. I do know there is much behind the apparent (to the voter) ease of this. Coordination is numerous between the counties and state, and agencies such as the USPS (re: moves & mail forwarding), and where death recordings enter the process. And more?

    Enjoy the day. And days 2, 3, 4 …

  6. E.M.Smith says:


    The silly thing about discouraging “Western Votes” is that the west coast and Hawaii are hard core Dems. So go ahead, call Biden The Winner and tell all those lazy Democrats to not bother voting as it’s a done deal…

  7. E.M.Smith says:

    Just did a “drive by” of one of our polling locations to assess the “crowd” and how long we might have to wait when we arrive in a while (spouse not ready yet…).

    There were 4 people in line.

    To the extent this is a hard core Dem stronghold in Silly Con Valley, that shows, IMHO, that most Dem votes are likely already in.

    We changed to 100% mail in, show up if you want, under a (now ruled unconstitutional) order by Governor Gavin Nuisance. We also changed to “Universal Polling Places” so you do not need to go to your local one. Any one will do.

    I have no idea what lines might be like at other stations.

    It’s almost 9:30 AM here, so 1 1/2 hours past the “first rush” and not yet at “vote when you get off work”… then again, not a lot of “getting off work” under Gov. Nuisance’s lock down orders either…

    So it looks like our plan of voting after the morning mob and before the Lunch Rush is likely a good one. It also looks like a whole lot of the (most likely mostly Democrat) votes are already in or “in the mail” somewhere.

  8. H.R. says:

    @E.M. re Western Dems – The early call has been a YSM standard for years. Normally, it works because the Repubs give up and don’t vote, and yeah, some of the Dems then don’t bother. But the Dems always had it in the bag so it didn’t matter if they depressed the Dem vote a bit.

    Now if there’s anything I’ve learned it’s that the Dems/Regressives always double down on stupid. I expect them to pull their usual early call of the race in favor of the Dem, Biden in this case.

    But this time, there are a whole bunch of fed-up voters who will crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump, and the usual Dems won’t bother to come out. I think the time honored tactic is going to backfire this election.

    It’s an exceedingly low probability, but California could flip.

  9. cdquarles says:

    I voted here in Central AL around 8 AM, before I did the rest of the day’s business (it is the 3rd of the month and you know what that means ;p). There was a line, which surprised me some, though it moved quickly and orderly. I drove past another one on my way home, and its lot was crowded. Typically, here, Election day in-person voting is the rule.

    You must show ID, which is electronically compared to stored records. They give you a paper receipt which you hand in to get a paper ballot. You fill it out then insert it into the scanner. Another paper receipt is generated, so there is an audit trail and there are actual ballots to check if any shenanigans happen to the scanning machine. Provisional ballots are handled separately. Absentee votes get counted today, separately; and anyone in the chain of custody does something fishy and/or illegal, they’re subject to prosecution. This *has* happened and folk *have* done time.

    Impersonating someone is possible, though if you are a regular voter, the personnel do get to know you; so a successful challenge of the incorrect ballot is possible, too.

  10. cdquarles says:

    Oh, if you do go to a polling place that isn’t correct, the workers can help you find the correct one. Best not to wait too long. You can check your precinct online, too, by going to the Election page on the Secretary of State’s site.

  11. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, back from voting.

    No line when we got there but had 2 in line when we left. You get a choice of:

    1) Hand in your mailed ballot for processing as a mail in ballot later.
    2) Touch Screen Machine.
    3) They take your mail in (empty) ballot and print a new ballot that you fill out with pen, then feed to a mark-sense reader then leave.

    No receipts for anything. I didn’t show ID (but did hand in my mail in envelope) Then they pull up your name address voter reg info on a tablet touch screen and you sign it with an ePen stating it is you.

    Folks voting were almost exclusively middle aged and older. I think this means that either the Young Ones don’t care, or did the mail in thing, or don’t do anything before noon ;-)

    As older voters are more conservative, this too might be an indicator of momentum for the Trump vote. Or not….

  12. Power Grab says:

    I got to the poll before 7:00 a.m. It took about an hour to finish voting.

    I gave them my dog-eared voter ID card. They found my name space in the sign-in books. When I signed it, the lady asked if I was a teacher. I said I do a bit of piano teaching. She said because of the way I write, she thought I was a teacher. I said, “I come from teachers.” :-)

    Some of my people were teachers, and others were medical professionals. No doctors, though. So I guess I dodged the bullet of inheriting the bad-handwriting gene.

    Actually, I find it calming to write neatly. After so many years of typing, my handwriting had gotten to be rather pitiful. So now I try to write neatly unless I have to write quickly. Then I might use shorthand!

  13. E.M.Smith says:

    Watching what I think is called the Dana Show on The First News Network via Pluto. Reasonably watchable news. Interviewed a Texas Congressman about his expectations on the vote. Here’s them on YouTube for past shows:

  14. Tonyb says:

    So you guys have got an election on? You have certainly kept quiet about that. Who knew?

    Hope it goes as well as you hope


  15. Another Ian says:


    “Pennsylvania is a swing state”

    ” VIDEO: There’s already emerging evidence of bizarrely aggressive leftists blocking the doors to a polling station for a certified city-wide poll watcher.

    What are they doing inside that they don’t want him to see?

    — Raheem Kassam (@RaheemKassam) November 3, 2020 ”

  16. philjourdan says:

    There was a comic who’s career lived and died by JFK – Vaughn Meader. He had an album out in the early 60s that my mother bought and we listened to often. One skit was JFK telling Americans to get out and vote! Vote for the Democrat of your choice, but Vote!

    Vote for the Orange man of your choice, but VOTE!

  17. Another Ian says:

    A different look at elections

    Peter Sellars, Spike Milligan and Harry Secombe had a look at a UK election of the 1960-s with a record called “How to win an election or not lose by much”

  18. Gary P. Smith says:

    Speaking of government sponsored terrorism, remember during the Obama administration when government departments like the IRS were buying up $50M worth of 9mm rounds of ammunition?

    Whatever happened to all those bullets?

  19. E.M.Smith says:

    @Gary P. Smith:

    Especially considering that Trump repeats, often, the story that when he arrived in office a General informed him they had no ammunition…

    BTW, Tim Pool has a story out tonight that 16 States have activated the National Guard “in case of a Trump Win”. What? Not worried that the Right Wing folks will go wild and burn down your cities? Only worried about what the Left Wing Nuts will do?

  20. philjourdan says:

    The 16 states are deep blue! They know.

  21. H.R. says:

    I haven’t found it yet, but all I’m looking for is a place where they report XXX for Biden and YYY for Trump with 367 of 2,148 precincts reporting.

    I don’t need any talking heads telling me I’m not seeing what I’m seeing with my own lyin’ eyes.

    Fox is currently lying their asses off by calling winners with less than 1% of the vote in. It’s even worse on other channels.

    The Enemedia is all of them, including Fox.

    I’m still looking, but I’ll check in here from time-to-time to see if anyone else here has stumbled upon a straight up tally site.

  22. Steven Fraser says:

    @EM: I voted 10 days ago. Here, in COLLIN County, we get voter registration cards that are good for two full years. On voting day (my chosen early voting day) I drove to one of the 3 voting locations in my precinct. No line. Walked right in, was guided to the open check-in point, handed them the card, and ID, confirmed that my address was current, and signed the registry. At the next window, the worker handed me my ballot, pointed out the q-tips to use on the touch screen, and walked 15 feet to one of a dozen voting machines. Inserted the ballot, and made my choices for national, state and local candidates. Checked my work, and selected ‘print’ which physically printed the barcodes for all my chosen candidates, and a summary (in English) of each selection for each race.

    I inserted my ballot into the counter, picked up y ‘I voted’ sticker, and was out the door. The round trip? 20 mins.

  23. Another Ian says:


    Have a look at

    Via Small dead Animals

  24. H.R. says:

    Wait up, the Fox addict in the family has Fox election coverage on, and it makes no sense.

    They are mentioning States that Trump won in 2016, and they are sowing doubt that he will carry them in 2020? What the hell?!?!? Given that he’s delivered on the promises he made in 2016, I’m now supposed to believe he lost support from those who bought into his promises?

    I see the rallies where Trump draws 10s of thousands and the rallies where Biden draws… well, I see 10s.

    I see Trump trains of thousands of vehicles and boat parades that stretch for miles while Biden is lucky to get a 5-car Biden car parade, and I suspect they were paid to do it.

    IMO, it’s all a set up for the YSM (that includes Fox, though they try to hide it) to just proclaim Biden the winner, then the commie Dems will just march into the Whitehouse and take over.

    Classic Color Revolution by the TLAs, the YSM, the Commies, and the Dems.

    I’m not even gonna take a peek at ABCNNBCBS, where it’s undoubtedly 10X worse.

    SPIT!! I want information, not gaslighting.

  25. H.R. says:

    Hey, thanks, Another Ian. Your comment didn’t show until the ‘refresh’ from me posting a comment brought up both of our comments. It wasn’t there before I started in on my comment.

    I’ll go check it out. Thanks again.

  26. H.R. says:

    I’m back. Not too bad, Another Ian, but they are still calling things w-a-a-a-y too early.

    At least they are showing the raw results, AFAICT.

  27. E.M.Smith says:


    Hit the First TV or it via the RSBN link. Near as I can tell, their map updates about 20 minutes before CBS does and is much more willing to admit when Trump has flipped a State.

    Also they do analysis on outstanding ballots as to kind and place. They have consistently been right in saying “Foo counts early mail in first and it is overwhelmingly Democrat voters, leaving 68% of Republican ballots left to count” or similar.

    I’ve watched Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Wisconsin and a few other flip from heavy Biden percent ahead (like 40% ahead…) to Trump leading as the count gets to the election day Republican voters…

  28. H.R. says:

    Thanks for the tip E.M., but the Mrs. has settled in on OANN and it’s giving actual results as you described as being given on RSBN and First TV. So it looks like we’ve got a good source.

    That’s at least three sources of XXX votes vs. YYY votes with Z% reporting. I don’t need all of the psyops angst and gaslighting that Brand X is pushing.

    OANN is not calling anything, just giving the numbers. From there, I can do the math.

    At the edgiest they are saying “we think, maybe, might, just could be… but only based on what returns we have now.”

    That’s all I am asking for at this point. It certainly is early and the Western votes are just starting to roll in.

  29. Another Ian says:

    I hear that vote counting has stopped for the night.

    Is the reproductive time for copulating votes less than 24 hours?

  30. M Simon says:

    If you say “the agenda of abused children” it makes a lot more sense. (if I have posted tis before – chalk it up to senility).

    Addiction is a symptom of PTSD. Says Nobel Prize Winner in Medicine Eric Kandel. Dr. Lonny Shavelson found that 70% of female heroin addicts were sexually abused in childhood.

    The origin of leftism is anger. The Democrat Party thrives on anger. And who is
    more angry than an abused child? The god of abused children is Satan (anger leads to the dark side). The politics of abused children is Communism. Stop child abuse.

    Making war on abused children is not a good look. What if Democrats exploit it?

  31. jim2 says:

    At this point, the election hinges on mail-in ballots. Those will be mostly Dimowit voters. I think the truth is now that Biden is likely to win. The only way he doesn’t win is if a good number of those votes are for Trump – not likely.

  32. E.M.Smith says:


    Mail in ballots posted at the last minute (or after…)

    A couple of States are clearly won by Trump, but they put counting on hold. Why? What prevents counting those remaining (mostly rural…) pro Trump counties?

    IMHO, not enough votes have been manufacturer for Biden…

  33. E.M.Smith says:

    Interesting discussion of how the corruption is done (and what can be done about it) with Bannon:

  34. E.M.Smith says:

    What bothers me the most is that, from start to end, the Democrat process has been lying and fraud. From “polls” that were entirely wrong (what happened to that 10%+ Biden easy win?) and biased to help Democrats, to “News” that was 100% SLANTED to destroy Trump and promote Biden, to muzzling and removal of 1st Amendment rights of speech by “social media”, to changes in the voting PROCESS to enhance opportunities for “vote harvesting” and manufacturing late mail in votes, and more.

    One side, the Republican, is playing by the rules of honor and law. The other side is playing by the one rule of “win at any cost: law, justice, honor, truth, fair play be damned.” And it looks like evil is on track to win ( given the machinations going on with manufacturing late mail in ballots in Pennsylvania and Georgia and others).

    Will we have our country handed over to “Bought By China” Joe? Will we have our Republic run by “Communism is good” Kamala? By cheating and fraud?

    Will we go happily into that good night of increasing Cancel Culture, Bribery & Blackmail? It looks like about 45% of the population wants to. (The other 5.1% will be the manufactured fraud). So, of that 45%, what fraction are just “useful idiots” and what fraction are “on side” with the fraud and corruption? Is it 35% / 10%? In most communist revolutions only about 10% are True Believers. They recruit enough Useful Idiots to make a mob. That, then, intimidates into silence enough of the “other side” to let the corruption take power. Once held, evil never lets go willingly.

    Are we really going to head down that path?

    Sidebar On Color Revolution:

    We are right on track with the Color Revolution Playbook. We are at the “claim election is fraudulent” stage. IF the eventual count is for Trump (or if the fraud is stopped in the courts) then The Left will claim Trump is an illegitimate President and go to nation wide riots & “resistance”. Yet if Biden wins (if “the steal” works), no counter force will say a word. Asymmetrical rules of engagement for asymmetrical political warfare…

  35. DoNoNorth says:

    Seems to me that should the Dems cheat their way into the Whitehouse that it will indeed be President Harris as Biden is a potemkin candidate who is neither physically or mentally capable of even pretending to be President.

    In that event that would lead to the further bending of our Constitution into a pretzel and meaninglessness as (at least from the info I’ve read) Harris’s lineage seems to legally disqualify her from the Office. What are the odds the Robert’s Supreme Court would even be willing to touch this?

  36. E.M.Smith says:


    That’s an open issue that’s not been decided in the courts in any meaningful way. Yes, she was born on US Dirt, but to 2 parents both of which were temporary resident visa holders from other countries. Then she and “mom” went off to Canada.

    Not exactly sounding like someone with deep roots in the USA.

    Yet by recent common practice, born on US dirt make US Citizen. To get “Natural Born Citizen” for constitutional purposes to be determined otherwise will require a trip through the SCOTUS…

    As per Roberts: Given his decisions I have to believe that one of two things is true. Either he’s become a Left Wing Nut, or someone has “the goods” on him or his family and he is compromised. He certainly is no longer voting as a “right wing” appointee.

    Perhaps someone whispered in his ear “If we got Scalia, we can get you…”?

    I do find it interesting that we’ve not got a proven track record of the Dimocrats choosing to put up candidates for POTUS with poor citizenship records and at a minimum leanings or allegiances to foreign communist / socialist systems.

    Per Biden:

    He is OWNED by China. That much is clear. His election (should the Dems manage to pull off the steal…) means CHINA sits in the White House. What happens to him will be entirely up to China to decide. IF Kamala is also owned by China (probable given her husband works for a law firm defending China) then Joe will be set aside (or at most kept for photo ops while Kamala is acting POTUS (so she can have 3 terms eventually? One as acting and two as elected?)

    What astounds me is just how much of the country must be brain dead or ignorant to an astounding degree for Biden to even have 1/2 a chance.

  37. Another Ian says:

    “”USA 2020: Looks like a coup, smells like a coup…””

    Site traffic must be heavy ATM as giving an internal server error

  38. Another Ian says:

    ” BREAKING: Wisconsin has more votes than people who are registered to vote.

    Total number of registered voters: 3,129,000

    Total number of votes cast:

    not a joke

    — {{David H}} (@daveyboy103) November 4, 2020

  39. philjourdan says:

    Arizona is getting yanked from Biden. That was a fraud to give to Biden. Trend is a narrow Trump win there.

  40. Gary P. Smith says:

    We need some kind of GIF, badge, hashtag, or icon to display on social media to signal to the Dims that we are intently watching with pent up rage. Anyone any good at creating such a thing? Maybe a big red tsunami with hashtag #StopTheFraud. Get it going viral.

  41. beththeserf says:

    Before I went to bed last night I copied from Fox Tally -Wisconsin with 90% vote counted, Trump 51.26% Biden 47.22% , giving Trump a 4.04% lead with only 10% votes to go in what has become a key election State.This morning, voila, Biden 49.4 % Trump 48.8% Vote turn around defies

    Likewise Michigan last night, Trump 53.37% leading Biden 45.01% a 4% advantage with 68% votes counted. Today those last less than one third remaining votes all for Biden…What?

  42. E.M.Smith says:

    How about:



    If is called Democrat Business As Normal, or, Chicago Style deep dish voting…

  43. Another Ian says:

    “”I found a box of 500 ballots – none of the names were on the roll” ”

    What is known here as an “FOT” delivery – fell off truck?

  44. H.R. says:

    @Beth – What?!? indeed.

    The court challenges have begun. May Trump prevail.

  45. Another Ian says:

    “Fox News Circles The Wagons and Fails – Guy Benson Accidentally Exposes Scheme: Contracted Fox News Pollster is also Fox News Decision Desk Narrator…”

  46. Ossqss says:

    So,,,,, what is the impact of prepaid mail-in unsolicited vote ballots sent out in some jurisdictions, and no ID needed to vote in others?

    We gotta quantify that… just sayin, I was reading about 23+k ballots received in Arizona and not one of them was a Trump vote?

    That really ain’t happening to that degree in any fantasy world.

    Hopefully, we know something by Christmas is all I gotta say…..

  47. Another Ian says:

    AEC we love you!!!!!!”


    Interestingly in my library divings for my Ph) I tripped over an item about US influence and Oz electoral system which didn’t ring true. So I read it and part of your system is copied from ours – obviously not enough. (IMO)

  48. Another Ian says:

    Must be close to a winner?

    “William Bradley, Born March 1902″

    Died 1984 so I guess you’d call him a stinking voter since?

  49. YMMV says:

    While we wait to see how the corruption plays out, I recommend watching an Italian series about the Sicilian Mafia. Actually, it’s more about how all Sicilians were affected by the mafia in the seventies (like totally), than it is about the Mafia itself. It’s not a Godfather story. It’s very good, although of course tastes vary. It has 24 episodes, so it might last until the vote is settled. BTW, there is one episode is about the dead voting.

  50. agimarc says:

    Good news and bad news here in AK. Good news is that the ‘pubs had a pretty good night Tues. Bad news is that there are still 140 – 150k absentee ballots outstanding remaining to be counted. It is almost like there were 2 elections up here – the one Tues and the one for a couple months preceding it. Both elections cast about the same number of ballots. ‘pubs voted generally 2:1 Tues. We expect dems voted similarly in the absentee election. There are a handful of new ‘pub legislators who are going to be grump here in a week or two. Overall, a good night that won’t stay that good. Cheers –

    PS: AK considers itself a western vote. Interesting history is that when AK & HI came into the union in 1959, they were paired so no party would gain advantage. At the time HI was massively ‘pub and AK massively dem. That reversed itself over the last 60 years.

  51. Compu Gator says:

    Oh!  Yes, I voted in person at my assigned polling place ca. 3–4 p.m.  There were no lines, but there was a steady trickle of voters thro’ the polling place. It’s a smallish back room in a complex of county offices of lesser prestige that were built a few miles from downtown Orlando. The precinct assigned to it has a predominately black populaton, mostly U.S.-born (i.e., native English-speaking), but some Haitians, increasing numbers of Puerto Ricans of a comparable economic class, and scattered “nonHispanic whites”.

    The clerk at the poling-place recognized my face from past elections [♕] when I strolled in, wearing a text-free & image-free red t-shirt [⛶]. The tablets now used for sign-in are quite noticeably improved in their ability to sense & display a voter’s ad hoc signature [✍], despite the newly awkward posture that some voters needed to assume while standing, because of the design of the plexiglass shields that were set up to protect the poll-workers who are seated at tables, while accomodating voters confined to wheelchairs.

    Note ♕ : The clerk, in the terminology used in Florida, is the highest-ranking poll-worker for each precinct assigned to a polling place. As with all other poll-workers in Orange County, they are trained prior to each election by the county elections h.q. (I’m quite sure that’s a statewide legal requirement), and are typically volunteers who’d accumulated experience as poll-workers from previous elections.

    Note ⛶ : “text-free & image-free” because I couldn’t find my red t-shirt that displayed the Ronald Reagan quote to the effect ‘We must (continue to) fight for liberty in every generation, because we can lose liberty in a single generation’ [*].  Under Florida law, there are no restrictions at polling places on text or images on clothing worn inside. What’s forbidden is discussion of contests or questions on the ballot, or advocacy or opposition of any choices. There’s no restriction on carrying printed material, including marked-up sample ballots, but handing out printed material is forbidden.

    Note * : The misplaced t-shirt was a gift from an enthusiastic Reagan fan in my family, but I strongly suspect that its quote is merely a restatement of a quote by 1 of the Founding Fathers, e.g., Ben Franklin, John Adams or his firebrand cousin Sam, or Thos. Jefferson.

  52. Compu Gator says:

    (I decided to isolate this into a separate comment, because of its overly technical and computer-industry aspects. But it really doesn’t have anything to do with “Election Risks, Frauds, & Follies” (q.v.).)

    Note ✍ : I believe the tablets used in Orange Co. for this election-cycle are (Apple) iPads, which were used in a limited role in an earlier election-cycle. In sharp contrast to the embarrassing Palm Beach “chad” Co., the high technical competence of Orange Co.’s Supervisor of Elections has made it something of a prestige account for the tablet-computer manufacturers. That creates eager competition to offer special deals to the advantage of Orange Co. for its bulk purchases.  The H-P Windows tablets used previously were ummm, surprisingly poor at sensing & displaying a voter’s ad hoc signature, even tho’ H-P’s technology should have benefitted from a few decades of development by the electronics industry. So Apple would’ve been eager to receive an opportunity to offer an appealing deal to Orange Co. for bulk replacement/de facto upgrade.

  53. E.M.Smith says:

    H.P. Somewhere about 18 years ago, did a MAJOR lay off of their technical staff. (My old College Roomie was one of them…) and, IMHO, their technical superiority left with that group of folks.

    They also had a VERY superior CPU design that was sold to Intel, then. Who promptly didn’t manage to use it well enough to displace AMD (“Itanium” IIRC.. something like that) and at that point they laid off their CPU design staff…

    I’m not sure what they still do “in house” now. I suspect a lot of it is outsourced to overseas suppliers / designers (but have not proof of that).

    Oh, and their superior medical gear was turned onto a separate company. Agelent I think. Still very good.

    So with their Medical Division gone, and their technical staff drastically thinned (by Carly Fiorina I think it was…) HP was mostly coasting on past reputation…

    As chief executive officer of HP from 1999 to 2005, Fiorina was the first woman to lead a Top-20 company as ranked by Fortune Magazine. In 2002, Fiorina oversaw what was then the largest technology sector merger in history, in which HP acquired rival personal computer manufacturer, Compaq. The transaction made HP the world’s largest seller of personal computers. HP subsequently laid off 30,000 U.S. employees. Nonetheless, the number of employees exceeded the pre-merger figure and grew to 150,000 during her tenure. In February 2005, she was forced to resign as CEO and chair following a boardroom disagreement.

    I think they also absorbed a couple of other “used to be important” computer companies too. Tandem. And others.

    Then there was the collapse of employee motivation and voluntary departures of the best and brightest:

    Because of changes to HP’s culture, and requests for voluntary pay cuts to prevent layoffs (subsequently followed by the largest layoffs in HP’s history), employee satisfaction surveys at HP—previously among the highest in America—revealed “widespread unhappiness” and distrust, and Fiorina was sometimes booed at company meetings and attacked on HP’s electronic bulletin board.

    IMHO they’ve never really recovered from that transition. They were on a merger binge and basically that turned HP into “Compaq with a better name”… Once you start down the “Be a rollup company so numbers always get bigger” instead of focusing on “make the best product to put those other guys out of business” you lose your culture, your products, and eventually your company. IMHO.

  54. Another Ian says:

    “Biden may steal an election for the elitists, but Democrats will regret it: Devine ”

    Via Tip of the Spear

    Shades of one of these?

  55. Gary P. Smith says:

    I so want to believe this! Any chance it is true? Note that this video is blocked on a lot of sites, but I was able to access it here:

    Appears to be an INFOWARS (Alex Jones) related site.

    Interesting use of blockchain to track voter fraud.


  56. Another Ian says:


    “Could it be true? A sting operation by Trump and Intelligence watermarked ballots to catch voter fraud”

    Site is slow again to thread level

  57. Another Ian says:

    “Biden’s Term”

    Goes with that NYPost – Miranda Devine item above (IMO)

    And with all this cheating is legal can VW now apply for reimbursement of penalties and court costs etc for their fiddle with emission regulations?

  58. Steve C says:

    How’s it looking now from your side of the pond? – BBC radio news was banging on as early as yesterday about how Biden has won, but you’d expect that given their globalist sentiments. At least the US hasn’t gone up in flames. Yet …

    FWIW, the British system does allow for postal voting, but IIRC the forms must be received *by election day* (not sure, neither I nor anyone I know has ever voted this way). Most of us turn up at polling stations on the day, where we either produce the voting card sent to us a couple of weeks previously or other proof of ID (so that we can be marked as having voted on the list). We are then given a piece of paper with the candidates listed in alphabetical order of surnames, with the party of each candidate indicated on the form and a big box by each for us to mark with an X in the privacy of the voting booth. Fold that in half when done (secret ballot!) and post it into the locked steel box provided. The count is generously provided with observers. Yet still we hear of postal ballot stuffing – not often, not result-changing, but it’s there; I think most of us regard the system as “mostly OK”.

  59. Another Ian says:

    “The Marble Orchard Vote”

    A MI “over 100 Hall of Fame”

    And threads below this

  60. E.M.Smith says:

    The watermarked ballot idea is a nice one, but at least in California it definitely is not true.

    AT the polling place, a regular old printer prints out your ballot on the spot. No commercial printing on special paper required.

    So given that, I have to question the notion that some commercial printing contract is needed. These aren’t even the big commercial printer / copiers. I’ve used some of the bigger ones and dumping out a few thousand of something doesn’t take long at all. I’d expect the County to have plenty of them in house. Heck, schools have them in some places. Even modest sized companies can afford them. This printer was about 2 ft / 2 ft and a normal small office size. One person could carry it.

    So before I embrace the notion that some TLA managed to get covert cooperation from some very limited ballot printing choices, I’ll need proof that States actually USE commercial printing instead of, as California does ( watched mine be printed), plain old printers.

  61. cdquarles says:

    I am pretty sure that in my state they do use state approved contractors to do this. There were no printers or copiers in the polling place that I could see. They did have stacks of preprinted ballots that they tore off to give you. I want to say those were in bound stacks of 100 ballots each.

  62. jim2 says:

    It ain’t over until the Electoral College votes … just sayin’.

  63. E.M.Smith says:

    Somewhere a dozen or two years back, all regular printers had a feature added that does print a small imperceptible serial number on every page. IIRC an extremely fine faint yellow. To the extent this is also done on large commercial printers, you could in theory fingerprint each ballot as to where it was printed.

    This would not catch cases were the officially printed ballots were used, or where officially approved printers were used. It would catch cases where ballots were printed off at non-approved locations on common printers.

    Is anyone going to do that? I doubt it. Would the perps have thought of this? In some places yes, in others no. Where the Government is owned by the DNC, they will just use their official offices and equipment, IMHO.

    Per Electors:

    I think there has been ONE faithless elector in history. Not going to get there by that route. Also, the electors are chosen by the government and in the contested States, those are largely “on side” Democrats.

    The system has been steadily “rigged” to increasing degrees for decades. We’re now reaping that. (One example, the move to “winner take all” electors in major population States. Guaranteed to disenfranchise the votes of the Republican minority in them. Then local voting rules get changed to assure a perpetual Democrat win. See California. 1/2 the State is RED, but gets no voice.

    Yes, it isn’t over until December 16. But it will be decided before then…)

  64. Another Ian says:

    “Statistical proof of election fraud in the US”

    Benford’s Law

  65. Another Ian says:

    “The Election Fallacy of the “Intellectual Conservatives” – Beltway Republicans are Decepticons…”

  66. Another Ian says:


    More on Benford’s Law at Jo Nova when you can get to read the site

  67. Another Ian says:

    ” Almost 100,000 people who voted for Joe Biden could not be bothered to vote down below.
    Compare that with only 2,000 for the Trump down ballot.

    — Rising serpent 🇺🇸 (@rising_serpent) November 6, 2020 ”

  68. philjourdan says:

    @Gary P. Smith – I did not watch all of it, because Retired Intel operative, while less detailed, has the same story and says he has first hand knowledge. He is not as specific as this guy as to how the ballots were marked, but it is possible. While each state prints their own ballots, they do not actually do the printing. Big Pharma Printing does. SO yes, DHS would know who was printing them and put in a sting. Did they? We will find out. But Trump has had 4 years to learn the nefarious ways of the deep state (very juvenile on their part, as Trump has stumped them for 4 years).

    We have to be patient. When Trump concedes, then, and only then will I believe he lost.

  69. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Yes, Benford’s Law is a wonderful thing. A related factoid is that, for unknown reasons, folks choosing a random sounding number have an extraordinary fondness of 7 and secondary fondness of 4. If you see a lot of 7s and 4s it’s pretty much a dead giveaway that a human was choosing the numbers.

    The thesis is that people shy away from 1 and 9 as they are on the end, but don’t like 5 because it is right in the middle (and very much don’t like zero because it isn’t really a number of anything now is it? ;-) So that just leaves a limited set of 2 3 4 and 5 7 8 and they tend to go with ‘near the middle’ at 3, 4 and 7. Then there are some “really smart folks” who choose each number equally… but that also fails as the normal distribution is not equal across all digits…

    It is commonly used in computer forensics to find data fraud.

    (I wonder if I ought to try applying it to the temperature data ;-)

  70. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and what do I think ought to be done?

    SCOTUS ought to rule that the Constitution says there is ONE “election day” and that folks need to show up, at the poll, and vote in person (with maybe limited opportunity for a requested absentee ballot with verification and cause… but I’d be OK without it at all.) Then say we need a “do over” in any and all States that had Mail In Ballots and longer than one day “election day”.

  71. p.g.sharrow says:

    Absentee was supposed to be solely for military and government workers on foreign posts. Everyone else reported to their local polling place on election day to be recognized and signed in to vote. Miss that, too bad. Absentee was counted last and only counted if they were needed to turn the question. In time Absentees were useful in deliberate manipulations. But this mail-in voting is made for vote count fraud. Ballot stuffing made easy! you don’t even need mules to do fake voting. just delay the final tabulations until you can fabricate enough ballots to get the required results in the tabulator machines. Once the ballots are shorn of their IDs they all are legal in any recount…pg

  72. Another Ian says:

    “John Yoo: Trump-Biden presidential race could be decided by Pennsylvania case before Supreme Court”

    Via Tip of the Spear

  73. Another Ian says:

    “This evening we have a special song to remind all Democrats of the noble country and traditions their party is destroying.”

  74. Another Ian says:

    SH1T! That is an interesting thought!


    Reminder that Donald John Trump leads the first genuine workers’ and peasants’ revolution that the United States has ever seen—not to say the western world—and the Biden gang have come nowhere close to crushing it.”

  75. Another Ian says:

    “I am more offended by how ham fisted, clumsy, and audacious the fraud to elect him is than the idea of Joe Biden being president. I think Joe Biden is a corrupt idiot, however, I think America would survive him like we’ve survived previous idiot administrations. However, what is potentially fatal for America is half the populace believing that their elections are hopelessly rigged and they’re eternally fucked. And now, however this shakes out in court, that’s exactly what half the country is going to think.

    People are pissed off, and rightfully so.

    Before I became a novelist I was an accountant. In auditing you look for red flags. That’s weird bits in the data that suggest something shifty is going on. You flag those weird things so you can delve into them further. One flag doesn’t necessarily mean there’s fraud. Weird things happen. A few flags mean stupidity or dishonesty. But a giant pile of red flags means that there’s bad shit going on and people should be in jail.

    Except for in politics, where apparently all you have to do to dismiss a bunch of red flag is be a democrat and mumble something about “fascist voter suppression” then you can do all sorts of blatant crime and get off.”

    A very good read.”

  76. Another Ian says:

    I notice that the term “bidet” seems to be cropping up wrt one of your leading politicians

    One slang term here is a “blot washer”

  77. H.R. says:

    Re that software *ahem* glitch

    So from that Treehouse article that Another Ian linked to, it mentions that the same software was used in other Michigan districts, and used in the other contested States, such as AZ, PA, WI and a couple of other States.

    Here’s the thing that just screams STEAL!

    It seems that all of the software glitches favor Biden and the Democrats. Same for all of the late ballots; they all seem to be in favor of the Dems and Biden and never for Trump.

    What are the odds of that? Well, !00% if you’re stealing an election. Otherwise, against random error, it should roughly be a wash with about half the errors breaking Dem and the other half breaking Repub. The regular mail-in ballots should favor Dems, but the “All of a sudden, lookee what we have here!” late, late ballots are ALL for Biden.
    I’ve been mostly ignoring the news since the Election because it’s all been YSM gaslighting designed to demoralize Trump voters, take the fight out of them (ha!), and prepare them for the resultant STEAL.

    I’ll just wait until the Trump campaign has challenged and appealed everything and there is no recourse left, or else the challenges and appeals have sufficient success to give a reasonably fair result (Trump!)

  78. p.g.sharrow says:

    @HR, it appears that the Democrats and Deep State are desperate for Trump to concede. They must be getting tired of pumping up their leaky balloon and are afraid their gaslighting the election count will be discovered. On the other hand they can’t seem to put her to bed. Mean while Trump and company seem awfully sure that they will prevail with court actions.
    I better get more popcorn..;-)…pg

  79. jim2 says:

    If you want to donate to Trump’s recount and debt effort, here’s the link:

  80. David A says:

    EM says, “SCOTUS ought to rule that the Constitution says there is ONE “election day” and that folks need to show up, at the poll, and vote in person (with maybe limited opportunity for a requested absentee ballot with verification and cause… but I’d be OK without it at all.) Then say we need a “do over” in any and all States that had Mail In Ballots and longer than one day “election day”.

    Yep, that and voter ID, legal citizens only, and a secure database that allows only living citizens with no disqualifying legal convictions, cross referenced to federal ID allowing only one vote for that SS number with individual access to confirm your vote was properly recorded.

    Should have been done a long time ago.

  81. H.R. says:

    @jim2 – We sent $100 to the fund today. That’s all we can afford but every bit helps.

    It’s money well spent if all the fraud is exposed and we get results that we can believe, even if for some reason the fraud–free results are not to my liking.

  82. Another Ian says:

    Latest Pointman

    “Stealing the Election of 2020.”

  83. Another Ian says:

    “Software “Glitch” in Voting machine takes 6,000 Trump votes in one county. Used in 30 states”

    Just a production test for your new payroll software. You are not supposed to question where the glitched funds go either. (/s)

  84. philjourdan says:

    ‘near the middle’ at 3, 4 and 7

    The basis of craps! 7 will appear most of the time (but that is the house number) and 2, 3 and12 very rarely (craps). Gambling is a science. Most never bother to learn it.

  85. Taz says:

    For a New Yorker…Trump is proving to be a chump. Those Dems stole this election. And it looks like they’ll keep it. Collusion all around……

    Had Trump actually managed to secure that blockchain watermark to every ballot – he still had a chance.

    But since he likely wasn’t paying attention – he is toast.

    Americans aren’t forced to live in the gutter with filth elections. That’s a choice. We could easily implement what Mexican citizens already enjoy here.

    But too many benefit from the lying, and our electorate is too corrupt to change it. These fraudulent elections are a “feature” – not a flaw.

    Anonymous 11/07/20(Sat)16:15:16 No.288685108▶
    >>288685807 >>288686213

    The court can’t do much here. If voting was an organized process, it might be possible, but you have people who spend their lives working for county elections boards, earning $40,000 or $50,000 per year…..they are not the best and brightest (think Brenda Snipes from the Broward County 2018 mess). The fact is that they have no way of separating the ballots. Unless the Trump campaign is planning to verify every vote in the swing states…..and how would they even do that? Trump isn’t going to reach into his own pockets to fight this. Once the campaign is out of money, he will concede and that is how it will end.

    The democrats have an excellent ballot harvesting effort. That is why you see huge discrepancies between down-ticket votes…..those are likely the harvested ballots, but this cannot be proven. The court has no power, and once everything is mixed together, things will start to go missing, etc. The DNC will work to confuse, obfuscate, and complicate the process to stall for time. Meanwhile Biden goes into president mode and starts talking about policy and will pay no attention to Trump. The MSM will probably not cover any fraud findings, unless there is some absolutely radical information, ie leaked emails alluding to criminal conspiracy, or some on the record confessions of bribery fraud.

    Ok, so Veritas has “100 employees ready to go on record”. And then what? MSM won’t cover Veritas, so unless they all finger the same people and it starts up a criminal investigation that leads to confessions, then nothing will happen. Like I said, once the Trump campaign no longer has the funds to keep the hundreds and hundreds of $300 per hour attorneys on retainer, then this effort will die out. He isn’t going to do this out of pocket. The MSM will continue to go after him talking about how unpresidential it is to fight the vote count when Americans are dying of coronavirus etc….fence sitters who voted for him will jump into the Biden camp.

  86. Taz says:

    United States is now the laughingstock. Perhaps Mexico should run our elections :(

    Oohhhhhh this hurts.

  87. llanfar says:

  88. Steven Fraser says:

    @EM, All: Its been difficult to retain even-keel with all the BS in the press and pontifications from every direction. However, I am discovering new reservoirs of patience, and some upside to the currently tortuous public discourse…

    We are seeing, from a variety of locations, the techniques of election impropriety laid plain. The WAYS, the TIMING, the PARTICIPANTS. How groups if people entrusted with election procedures corrupt the process, even when under court order.

    Of particular interest, as an IT professional, is the glaring vendor misbehavior calling attention to ‘Old Dominion’ and its clearly irregular ‘update’ the day of the election… the one which has been trivialized as a ‘glitch’, that has been shown to make a difference in a county in Michigan. The excuse I have seen was that the update, done without notification or rationale, caused this anomaly because the machines were not ‘set up’ correctly.

    No shit.

    Some contract forensic analysis should reveal whether this update was allowable under terms of the support contract with the vendor.

    And, just a couple weeks ago, I watch ‘Man of the Year’, Whoda thought we’d see it played out!

    Also of interest is the recently-revealed anomalies in the extraordinary vote counts for Wisconsin, and the peculiar, anomalous, high counts for Biden/Harris and NO OTHER RACES on the ballot.

    Also of interest, the voting of the Dead and the extraordinarily old, for example, people born on 1/1/1900, and some earlier than that.

    By the time this is over, however the results turn out, the cat will be out of the bag. TDS has provoked uncautious, visible use of these techniques, on which light is now shining.

    Wow, just wow.

  89. Another Ian says:

    “Why elite Democrats are furious over the loss of anti-Trump politics ”

    Via Tip of the Spear

  90. E.M.Smith says:

    @Steven Fraser:

    I am doing my very best to sit on my hands and hold my tongue about the BLATANT and MASSIVE corruption and voter fraud. Just waiting to see if Justice actually can prevail.

    IF Biden is, in fact, sworn is as POTUS, we can know one thing for certain:

    The USA has a voting system as corrupt as they come and there is NO reason to trust it at all about anything. The “will of the people” will have to be expressed in other ways.

    One, for me, is simply that “Biden is not my president”. Period. FULL STOP. He is a CRIMINAL and completely owned by CHINA. These are blatant facts. He lacks the fundamental necessaries to be POTUS. Then you can decide if he has any brain left…

    I have no idea how that will manifest in reality. Be it set-ins or what. But I know that it means I will never ever support ANY democrat for any office again. They are the Demoncrat National Criminals. By their actions we now know them.

  91. Another Ian says:


  92. Another Ian says:

    Here is a start

    “Rebel Alliance Post-It Notes…”

  93. Another Ian says:

    “The legal argument: Why Trump will triumph in Pennsylvania and win the election”

  94. H.R. says:

    @Another Ian re Post-it notes –

    That goes back to WWII and probably even earlier until you hit the eras of mass illiteracy. It doesn’t work if people can’t read, eh?

    Piet Hein, of the Dutch resistance, would go out at night and writes “grooks,” which were demoralizing 4-line ditties of graffit for the Germans to read. I had a book of a collection of his grooks, but it left my possession long ago.

    This grook was my favorite.

    You’re paid to stop a bullet.
    It’s a soldier’s job they say.
    And so you stop a bullet,
    and then they stop your pay.
    ~Piet Hein

  95. Another Ian says:


    Have you had a look at this one?

    November 8, 2020 at 8:30 am

    I don’t know what connection Dave Rubin has with the channel, Locals which carries podcasts, but it hosts Scott Adams too. Check it out.”

    A comment at

  96. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I’d not seen it (been down a technical rabbit hole as ‘mental comfort food’ ;-) but doesn’t surprise me.

    As of now, I want zero to do with any facility that was in any way anti-Trump or pro-Biden. It is very clear “the fix was in” and it’s “fraud all the way down”, so why would I ever associate with that? Eh?

    Chris Wallace had killed Fox for me. Though really, I stopped watching it along with the ABC / CBS / NBC / pMSDNC etc. bunch during the transition to the Roku. But I’d started watching some of the YouTube bits by Tucker et. al.

    But now? Sorry, they have nothing to say that I need to hear.

    I have caught a bit of OAN, NewsMax, The First and some other “Old Fox Wannabes”. They have a shot, but are still a bit rough around the edges at times. Better than nothing but not by a lot… so mostly it’s been various podcast folks.

  97. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and FWIW, I’d figure Trump would get about a 30% of USA Audience Share with a Trump News Network…

    One other bit:

    I’d really love to see both Assanage and Snowden get pardons AND have a whole lot of new material to work with… just sayin’… why let Biden / Harris / China scrub it all?…

  98. philjourdan says:

    @EM – Re: Not my president. I never said that about Obama. I said I disagree with 97% of this policies and actions, but I never said he was not my president.

    The left has said that for 4 years with Trump. If Biden is inaugurated, I will say it about Biden. I do not acknowledge cheats and thieves.

  99. Another Ian says:


    “Wait Just a Minute! Some Very Good News May Be Coming”

    Via Tip of the Spear

  100. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    One hopes that the “Good News” holds up… “But hope is not a strategy. -E.M.Smith”…


    My intent as of now is to ALWAYS refer to Biden as “POTUS In Name Only” or “China Joe” or “Illegitimate Biden” or “Usurper in Chief” or something similar. I’ll start this practice just after the inauguration (if it were to happen).

    I too accepted Obama as “My President”. Didn’t like his policies. Thought his sealing records was dodgy. BUT legally elected so POTUS.

    Not So China Joe! It’s “Fraud all the way down”. Illegitimate candidate and illegal election. Not buying it.

    That’s the first of what I hope will be many minor resistance activities (most of which will not be visible as you can bet the Social Credit Score and Cancel Army will be mustered in force…)

    If I go quiet then you can be sure I’m doing a lot… ;-)

  101. p.g.sharrow says:

    @ENSmith; you should add this to the above

  102. p.g.sharrow says:

    @EMSmith; This crap is hitting the fan, These people might need your expertise in computer forensic that is independent of depending on the co-operation of Government Agencies

  103. E.M.Smith says:

    If they want me, I’m available.

    FWIW, a couple of years back, I read about Hammer. IIRC it was a not that fancy an attack that mostly depended on a lot of repeated whacking on a known vulnerability. Stack smashing? Something like that.

    Basically a bruit force attack on a web protocol vulnerability. Not elegant at all, and I don’t think it really required a “supercomputer”…

    But it’s been a while and I could have some bits swapped ;-)

    The election machinery isn’t very secure anyway. Not hard to get into it at all, really. Basically just PC class gear in a special box with poor maintenance… Some are of the sort where physical access lets you change things anyway.

    FWIW, there’s a lot of folks with stronger Sig-Int and systems cracking skillz than mine, so they will have lots of choices if needed. My biggest feature would just be that I’m moral and “on side”. But I don’t know if that’s enough.

  104. Another Ian says:

    And something different but not really O/T And astounding!! (/s)

    “The Guardian: Joe Biden’s $1.7 Trillion Investment Could Reduce Global Warming by 0.1C”

    Must be a new measure of ROI in there?

  105. Another Ian says:

    “How funny is this?”

    “To see what’s in the legislation you have to pass the legislation” on steroids?

    And don’t I recall that there was a midnight dump of an extra 1200 pages in that? Must have been a practice run?

  106. H.R. says:

    wOw! The YSM is waging a full-on FUD assault. There’s little or no basis in reality for their narrative.

    The reality is that President Trump is a fighter and the Election can be called only when he has pursued every legal avenue to eliminate any election fraud that was perpetrated.

    There is very little information getting out regarding President Trump’s efforts to eliminate fraudulent votes and the possible extent of the cheating; massive, this election. There’s no reporting on his fight.

    All I’ve seen is how President Trump is figuring out how to throw in the towel, because he knows it’s all over, and that’s just not reality. He’s a fighter. Given his track record, he’ll probably win, assuming the Court is 5-4 in favor of the Constitution. Roberts can’t be counted on. ACB is an unknown at this point. Otherwise, the Constitution and many States’ laws are on his side.
    That FUD has an effect, even when you know it’s all an illusion at the moment. Powerful stuff when there is little to no countervailing news getting through to the public at large.

  107. H.R. says:

    Meanwhile… the purpose of the current YSM FUD narrative is to help Biden win. But, assuming Trump wins his cases, then the next 4 years will be, “You saw it! Biden won. Trump stole the election and he’s an illegitimate President.”

    Quite the opposite if he prevails in his challenges. He will be the duly elected President, but that’s not what we’ll hear and the Antifa/BLM hounds of Hell will be released. The PTB, via the YSM narrative, are hoping that enough Dem sheeple will be enraged enough to join in and make a real mess of things.

    Biden has been useful, win or lose. Win, and the PTB’s man (Harris, really) is in. Lose, and they can gin up the civil war they’ve been wanting.

  108. jim2 says:

    Here are a bunch of video clips covering what the Trump team is up to. It is impressive.

  109. Simon Derricutt says:

    H.R. – over here I’ve seen both the BBC and France 24 blatantly gleeful over the election results. The Hunter Biden laptop problem was totally ignored, and even when the newspapers were discussed and the Daily Mail headline on that laptop was shown, it simply wasn’t talked about. I’m pretty sure that if one of Trump’s kids had even a smidgeon of suspicion of such corruption it would have been all over the news. It does however seem that Rudy Giuliani’s son has a government job in promoting sports, where he (supposedly) does bugger-all for a good wage, but I expect some degree of nepotism from both sides of the political divide.

    I suspect that Joe Biden is less corrupt than most, though (or at least started out that way). Seems that by the time he became Vice-President his fortune only amassed to around $250k according to the BBC, around the same as the average American and way short of what what other Senators manage. He’s gained a lot more since then though – see for some details. Of course, this doesn’t agree with the BBC. Amazing how much such people get paid for an after-dinner speech, but that’s maybe just a legal way to give a bribe. My brother suggested that people in power get given a choice between a bullet and cash, and that most take the cash.

    I’m also hearing the BBC and F24 repeating in each news bulletin that there is absolutely no evidence of voting fraud. Considering how easy it is to cover up such fraud, and once the votes are removed from their outer signed envelope they have no identifying link to who cast that vote, I would expect that the only hard evidence you’d get was from whistle-blowers who would be at extreme risk of committing suicide using two bullets to the head if they were named. That really leaves forensic analysis of the voting patterns, and the cases where votes cast were over 100% of the registered voters (of which there are quite a few). The voting patterns certainly seem anomalous to me.

    Though Billinoz suggested ways of making voting more secure, it always actually depends on the ethics of the officials involved. Any system can be bypassed, and we all know that computer systems can be hacked – even easier if you have someone high up on the inside. Though systems should have journalling to record each transaction that happens, that can be bypassed if someone knows what they are doing. In any case, the systems currently in use to record and count votes appear to be hackable at the apprentice level anyway, and that may be by design since we’re looking at some long-laid plans here.

    What is happening with skin-colour in the USA? For Kamala Harris I wouldn’t have known she was Black from looking at her. For me, skin colour is irrelevant, and (as MLK hoped) I only take account of someone’s character, yet the racial background of anyone seems to be over-emphasised in all the news. I don’t even know the skin-colour of a lot of the people I communicate with over the net, and don’t consider it relevant anyway. We’re all mutts if you look back several generations. The biggest thing that determines your success isn’t colour anyway, but how rich your parents were and how good your teachers were. I’m pretty sure that the emphasis on skin-colour and race at this time is to try to divide people since when a people is divided it’s easier to control. That’s starting to get depressingly close to a conspiracy theory, though.

    Still, looks like there’s a good chance Harris will be your next President fairly soon. Probably also means that the Green Nude Eel will get imposed, and a lot of wealth will be wasted. Looks like the same sort of thing will happen here in Europe, too, so you won’t be alone in the depression that causes. The strange thing, though, is that the young folks who will be paying most for that are the most strident in wanting it. Could just be the way that the media keep pushing the various Big Lies, such as AGW and the Socialist Shiny Thing (and Orange Man Bad), and trying to hide the evidence that they are false. However, I do have friends of around my age who also swallow that hook, line, and sinker. Still, they are artists and not scientists, so tend to run on feelings rather than evidence. Seems when I point them at the evidence they just don’t understand it. Funny how if a lie is repeated long enough it’s regarded as being the truth. Maybe that’s why, when I was young and being sent to Church on Sundays, everyone had to repeat the Creed every time, so that they regarded it as being the truth. I believe….

    I think it’s preferable to keep a degree of uncertainty about all my knowledge, in that there may be exceptions and it might be wrong, or I may have drawn the wrong conclusions. Though at times I have a degree of envy for those people who are certain they are absolutely right, because it’s so much easier to live that way, that makes it hard to see any errors as well. When they cock-up, it’s big.

  110. E.M.Smith says:


    One of the advances in my “keep a tidy mind” method was when, at about 12? or 16? somewhere in there…, I started keeping a “veracity index” on each item “learned”.

    I’d already figure out that “pulling your leg” was a common sport among adults. So some adults were flagged as “story tellers”. Then I’d started to figure out that even “trusted adults” could tell the occasional tall tale… So some stories were flagged as “fantasy” or “fiction”. All well and good. But insufficient.

    What was still missing was the understanding that even kind well meaning and moral sources who firmly believed they were speaking Truth, could in fact be presenting a Story They Just Believed. That every Story, regardless of ‘tag’ as fact or fiction, and every Source, regardless of ‘tag’ as reliable or not, every single one; was potentially a Big Fat Fiction. Unless and until you personally PROVED a thing, it was ‘tentative’ (and sometimes even after you “proved” it…)

    At age 12 I was baptized. Yeah, whole thing, hook (sounds great), line (man that’s a Big Book of Stories), and sinker (everyone trusts the source / minister). Felt GREAT! Yet nothing changed. Nothing at all. (In my church then, you had to choose to be ‘saved’ and only then baptized. Southern Baptist, full dunk, in front of the whole church assembled.) I think that was when I began to suspect… That was the moment that my “Wait a moment…” tendency to check things said “But things were supposed to change, and they didn’t.”

    By about 16, I was much more full on Mr. Science and thought I’d found the Method Of Truth Seeking! Then discovered / was shown that the Bohr Atom we’d just been taught was no longer the real model and that the Newtonian Mechanics we’d learned was not quite right as it ignored Relativity. Oh Dear. Even received Science was “wrong”.

    Somewhere between those two marker points was where “tag it all with degree of trust” was added to my Truth Scoring Model of Reality. NOTHING and NO ONE was trust-able as Truth. Everything was provisional. You could, with several supporting proofs, accept something as a ‘provisional truth’. You could, with evidence of reliable results, use something (even if to some degree incomplete) despite knowing it was not quite right. (Newton and error bands…)

    Every thing believed needed a support pillar or two beneath it. The more, the higher the truthy score. Just a Story with a few advocates? Nice Story, low truth score. Backed by Science, with experiments and multiple lines of support (theory, experiment, examples in nature, use in practice, cross support from other disciplines, etc.) then a higher score.

    FWIW, I’m not sure how the scores are tallied. It’s just a thought tag. Sort of from “yeah right” to “what?” and “Maybe, OK” and on up to “I can trust that” and “If this is wrong, the whole world is nuts” (i.e. what Quantum Mechanics did to my chemistry and physics education prior… I still have this feeling that QM is a bit nuts ;-) Sort of a “feeling with numerical weight”. It just is. I asked for it, that’s what the brain made.

    FWIW, by doing that, I was then able to just accept any idea someone wanted to postulate and talk about (i.e. wide acceptance band for any idea; but tagged as “speculative at best” until more evidence arrives) while at the same time holding firm to many ideas that were in conflict with it (even Newton gets a “not quite right” tag… so anyone and any idea can…). It breaks the need for “logical consistency” between all beliefs as every belief might be wrong. Instead, you get an overlay map of different consistent sets. Kind of like a set of transparent maps where if the Red one is right, then the Blue bits have to go… So a speculative idea just gets a new layer in a new color and you just need to ask “If Purple is true, what in the other layers must go?”… Kind of like when QM caused a hiccup in classical physics…. No need to jump to acceptance or rejection. Just add a dimension and color it.

    Since then I’ve not been absolute about very many things at all.

    Partly that was from my year of Geometry at about 14-15. We had a protractor, compass, ruler, and pencil. And three postulates. Everything else we had to derive and prove… In some ways a bit tedious, but in others quite enlightening. It asked, loudly, “How do you KNOW this is true?”. How do you KNOW 2 points define a line? I loved it. How do you find the pillar that supports a knowing? What have you assumed as axioms and what have you proven by applying them? Can you remove an earlier assumption and simplify your uncertainty base? It clarifies the mind…

    But since then I’ve found that most people never have had such an experience. They are just a big coloring book in which all sorts of folks have scribbled things that are just assumed to be “true”, never compared to other “truths”, never challenged. Just “sit in the chair, let the teacher and others scribble in your book, then go party”. Those folks are, today, having a hoard of folks scribble in their coloring book that Biden won fair and square and Trump is a horrible person… and they have no eraser and they have no editor and they hate it when you ask them to prove that scribble has any truth in it. It was written in their book so it must be true…

  111. Simon Derricutt says:

    EM – largely similar here, except that for my working life I was in engineering and so things got divided into stuff that worked and stuff that didn’t. It’s only since I stopped doing that that I started delving deeper into the stuff that had bothered me as a student and trying to resolve the paradoxes and inconsistencies I’d come across. There are still problems in that I can’t explain how a field works or what mass actually is, but there seem to be some glimmerings of a deeper truth even where I know there’s a recursion problem if I try to dig deeper.

    The big results so far are that there are unacknowledged exceptions in thermodynamics, and also that momentum isn’t always conserved (so neither is energy), and that things I was taught were impossible have experimental evidence that they are possible. However, while people stick to the belief that they are impossible few people will even go through the logic with a tooth-comb and try to find a fault. It’s not worth their time to do, they think, since it’s so obviously wrong that there must be a fault in the logic somewhere.

    Quantum mechanics implies that everything is actually a wave, with the question being “what carries that wave?”. Also what is the wave velocity, of course, since QM effectively states an infinite velocity but if it was indeed infinite then you couldn’t have a wave at all. That pair of doxies again…. Still, looks like a solution is possible that doesn’t involve paradox.

    Back on topic again, it’s pretty obvious that there has been election fraud over there. For the Hunter Biden laptop, the family and friends in the US who are D ignore it, but the R ones definitely took notice. The divide is deep. I know there’s a problem that when a lie is repeated enough times, it is taken to be the truth, but it’s not as if the D family and friends are thick (in fact they’re intelligent and well-educated), just that stuff that goes against their beliefs is discounted and stuff that agrees is accepted. I expect it’s obvious to you that Trump is somewhat Asperger’s, thus his social skilz are not normal and he’s going to trample on peoples’ feelings without realising it when he states how he sees things. Somehow they consider him racist when the evidence is that he doesn’t actually consider race or sex of someone providing they can do the job he asks them to. I’ve even seen accusations of him being anti-semitic, which would imply he hates his own son-in-law.

    If Covid-19 hadn’t come along, the USA would have been in a very good position, with far less unemployment in the Black/Latino/female section of the population, and with better prospects for the future. It’s kind of hard to get people to riot when they are both better-off than they were a few years ago and where they can see a bright future the way things are going. It does look like the crisis was well-used by wanting a change towards socialism and more government control. It’s going too far to say it was intended to happen by the Chinese, even though it’s conceivable that someone may have released the virus deliberately. It’s pretty certain that the virus was lab-produced, but more likely that the escape was unplanned. Still, it has had a pretty large effect on the West, and the prophylactic measures discussed here don’t get media time. Could have been reduced to a moderate ‘flu year, rather than a scary world pandemic that will kill loads of people. Again, I suspect that the problem here is the belief that no current medicine can stop a virus, whereas the data shows that that is indeed possible. It surely can’t be TPTB wanting to milk a crisis to achieve their One World Government aims, surely? Or is that my beliefs (that people can’t be that evil) getting in the way? Then why ban the prescription of HCQ in France and castigate Pr. Didier Raoult for publicising his cure? Also banned in the UK, too, and the “tests” were only run on people who were hospitalised and thus too badly infected for the stuff to work properly.

    It’s getting a bit more difficult to dismiss all the conspiracy theories, but what if it isn’t actually a conspiracy but just people doing what they believe rather than what the evidence says? Maybe the people doing the election fraud over there believe that they are doing the right thing for the USA, and are feeling proud of what they did even though it was illegal? As regards bribes, what if the people think that what they were bribed to do was in fact the best thing for the USA, and so they feel it was a patriotic thing to do and that getting the money was just a nice bonus? As far as I can tell, nearly all people try to do what they think is right, which is why the drip, drip, drip of propaganda is so insidious. Maybe especially if the media believe it themselves, as most seem to. No need to get a balanced viewpoint,because one side is obviously right and the science is settled.

  112. E.M.Smith says:

    Two different worlds:

    On Pluto, one “regular TV channel” has President Elect Biden stories about how he managed to win the election… on America’s Voice, Bannon is saying “Not to worry, all the fraud is coming out and Trump will prevail in the courts”.

    The fissure is deep and getting deeper.

    Cuomo is dissing the news of a vaccine ready to go. Why? Trump did it.

    It will be interesting to watch how the vaccine news is received; it ought to contain information about motivations…

    What a mess.

    Per deliberate release vs accident:

    My quasi-supported opinion is just that there was a plan to eventually use it as a bio-weapon, but it accidentally leaked out before planned. So then they dusted off the plan and ran with it, modifying it for their having to deal with it inside China too.

    It fits all the known facts best of the various choices.

  113. E.M.Smith says:

    Interesting… on Bannon says to go to to get updates.

    Going there yields:

    We are experiencing unexplained technical difficulties. We are limiting features to our livestream while we work to address the issue. We apologize, and appreciate your continued support.


    So, being dds attacked or just a whole lot of folks trying to get alternate viewpoint news?

  114. p.g.sharrow says:

    I certainly hope the Anti-Trump people refuse to take the Trump vaccine until President Biden says he has oked it, in a year or two. ;-)
    The original Chinese story was the Virus was being developed to serve as a way to create a broad band vaccine for all corona virus. That is why it was spliced into being a broad band infectent. Being released into the general population was not expected or planned for. This was supposed to help China take world control of another industry. Every thing else out of China was their attempts to make the best, for them, out of this bad situation..

  115. E.M.Smith says:

    Well that’s a problem:

    Hans Rupprecht the “Irredeemable”
    November 9, 2020 at 1:31 am
    Developing: Nancy Pelosi’s Chief of Staff Is Chief Executive and Feinstein’s Husband a Major Shareholder at Dominion Ballot Counting Systems

    via the Gateway Pundit

    “The great Sidney Powell was on Mornings with Maria and she unloaded on the monstrous amount of Democrat voter fraud in the 2020 election. But during this discussion Maria Bartiromo dropped a bomb as well.
    During her discussion with Sidney Powell, Maria Bartiromo shared the following about the firm that runs the application used in Michigan where thousands of Trump votes were switched to Joe Biden.

    Maria Bartiromo: I’ve also seen reports that Nancy Pelosi’s longtime Chief of Staff is a key executive of that company. Richard Bloom, Senator Feinstein’s husband is a significant shareholder of this company.

    Bartiromo is correct. Bloomberg reported in April, 2019 that:

    Dominion Voting Systems — which commands more than a third of the voting-machine market without having Washington lobbyists — has hired its first, a high-powered firm that includes a longtime aide to Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    The election software system in Michigan that switched 6,000 votes from Trump to Biden is called “Dominion.”

    It is used in 30 states including:


    Every single major swing state. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.”

    Demand a HAND RECOUNT!

  116. Another Ian says:

    Following mention of HCQ above

    “Vindication of HCQ”

  117. YMMV says:

    “The election software system in Michigan that switched 6,000 votes from Trump to Biden is called “Dominion.””

    “Yes, those ‘glitches’ are from the same software that made Venezuela’s elections so free and fair”
    (a little tongue-in-cheek there)

    “Sequoia Voting Systems was a California-based company that is one of the largest providers of electronic voting systems in the U.S.,” … “It was acquired by the Canadian company Dominion Voting Systems on June 4, 2010. At the time it had contracts for 300 jurisdictions in 16 states through its BPS, WinEDS, Edge, Edge2, Advantage, Insight, InsightPlus and 400C systems.”

    You definitely want to read that whole article. Scary.

    Since that is a Canadian company, I had to look up and see if that system is used in Canada. It is not. Federal elections are paper ballots, hand counted, and there is a uniform set of standards.

    Covid exceptions? No.
    “At this point, Elections Canada is not considering introducing internet voting. Implementing such a change would require significant planning and testing in order to ensure that the agency preserves certain aspects of the vote, including confidentiality, secrecy, reliability and integrity. Given the current operational and time constraints, this option cannot be explored properly at this time.”

  118. Another Ian says:

    In comments at SDA

    Burgess Shale
    November 9, 2020 at 9:37 am

    The unit of measurement for Brain Farts is now known as “BIDENS”.

    And Kate at SDA has been researching

    “Trump’s lawsuits are good for American democracy”

  119. Another Ian says:

    Maybe if they’re going to have electronic vote tallying the input has to go through “two independent systems”?

  120. H.R. says:

    @Another Ian re finding that priceless SDA comment –

    Burgess Shale
    November 9, 2020 at 9:37 am

    The unit of measurement for Brain Farts is now known as “BIDENS”.

    🤣🤣🤣 👏 👍

    “My bad. I just had a Biden”

    “Are you hungover or something today? That’s about the 6th Biden you’ve had and it’s not even lunchtime.”

    “Man, you really screwed up. That was an 11 on the Biden Scale.”
    It’ll take a bit to get the hang of the correct usage.

  121. jim2 says:

    On Cavuto’s show on Fox, they cut off the press conference almost immediately saying there was no proof to what Kayleigh McEnany was saying about the Dimowits. I gave FN a piece of my mind.

  122. E.M.Smith says:

    So you are saying Fox had a Biden?

  123. llanfar says:

    More like they did a MSFOX

  124. H.R. says:

    Tonight, Tucker Carlson (FOX) was on fire! He really lit into the fraud, the political use of Covid, and a few other SPITS! and POOHS! and #$@!&!-its!. It was an awesome, hard-hitting, well researched and documented show and his opinion segments were based on sound observation and logic.

    Judge Jeanine’s weekend show (FOX) was yanked because she was going to weigh in on the fraud. She was suspended from the network!

    A few days ago, I heard (second hand) about Rush opining that FOX is allowing some pro-Trump, election fraud news and outrage through because it would mollify Trump supporters and, hopefully, soften them up make them amenable to swallowing the lies and the ‘Biden won’ pronouncements that FOX is pushing anywhere and everywhere else. I believe Tucker is being allowed a free hand for that reason.

    Makes sense to me because Tucker has the highest rated cable news show EVAH! (7+ million) but he’s preaching to the choir. Joe Average and virtually no Dems are tuned in, so he’s only raising the hackles of people whose hackles are already raised. No dolphin’s Dem’s precious feelings were harmed during the airing of his show.

    What I have not seen is any evidence that the rest of the YSM is letting any word of President Trump’s legal challenges through. The Fake News is that Trump is Hunkered in The Bunker trying to figure out how he’ll negotiate his concession.

    The best news I heard today is that Trump played not one, but two relaxing rounds of golf over the weekend. Does that sound like a worried man hunkered in the bunker planning how to concede? I don’t think so.

  125. H.R. says:

    Oh, I forgot… the YSM is reporting “Sources say” Trump is huddled with close advisors (Jared and Ivanka)** trying to figure out how best to concede.

    Ha! Didn’t buy it then and certainly not after finding out about the two rounds of golf.

    Name the frickin’ sources, YSM. Otherwise you are just sucking canal water.
    I’m thinking that the longer this goes on, the more that Trump’s legal challenges will leak out and the more things will start to unravel for the Dems.

    Information in the internet age, just like water, has a way of leaking out through any and all of the tiniest fissures. Ya just can’t keep a secret anymore ’cause it’s probably already a video somewhere on the net just waiting to go viral.

    **Note: Jared and Ivanka are mistrusted by a lot of Trumpers because of their NY socially liberal background. Same was true for Trump himself early in his first race for the nomination. The YSM disabused Jared and Ivanka of any notion they may have had that they had a single friend amongst Democrats. They were attacked, reviled, vilified, and rejected mercilessly by the YSM and Dems – many former so-called friends – as soon as Trump won the nomination.

  126. H.R. says:

    I’ve commented at least twice above, “just needs enough money and time.”

    It just occurred to me that we may not figure out how to (reasonably) correctly model climate before the next stadial, and we might well run out of money to continue the quest long before we’ve run out of time.

    We, or our kids or grandkids or great-grandkids, shall see.

    I’d actually like to see a really good climate model, but not one that is accurately hindcasting the next stadial 😜

  127. H.R. says:

    Oops! Wrong thread. Sorry.

  128. p.g.sharrow says:

    @HR; you said Trump played 2 rounds of golf this weekend? Boy he must be pissed! Trump does his heavy thinking on the course, away from distractions. He is planning his next attack. I’d look forward to a change in his attack mode. Trump is a brawler that doesn’t give up easily. I’m still betting on President Donald Trump…8-)

  129. Another Ian says:


    “Information in the internet age, just like water, has a way of leaking out through any and all of the tiniest fissures.”

    Like that hydrogen gas that is “the next big green thing”?

  130. Another Ian says:

    Breaking News
    November 9, 2020 RobertDemocrats Margin Of Fraud 12 Comments

    Something strange has started happening:

    In Arizona
    In Wisconsin
    In Pennsylvania

    Update: Real Clear Politics has just rescinded Biden’s President-Elect status:”

  131. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    I hope there is truth to it… but in reality it will be several more days before we start to have insight, if ever.

    The whole thing is one big cock-up and the only real choices are to accept the fraud (what the Dims want), or have a ‘do over’ (what has the potential to make it right), and maybe have a recount find the real vote totals (unlikely for many reasons from Dims opposition to fraud good enough to not be caught).

    Oh Well.

    I think I’m going to need a bigger whiskey budget…

  132. Another Ian says:


    “I think I’m going to need a bigger whiskey budget…”

    But that will get you labe[ed as a kulak (?s)

    Which is likely already the fate of anyone who contributed to this blog

  133. Another Ian says:

    Time for another plug. I’ve said about since I heard it that John Prine’s “Common Sense” was a shoo-in for the themesong of the 21st century

    “It don’t make no sense that common sense don’t make no sense no more”

  134. llanfar says:

    Smart lady

  135. E.M.Smith says:


    Damn! That lady got game! She is one very smart cookie!


    If you have not watched that lady’s video, watch it. Just do it. Now.

    Samantha Marika knows what she’s doing.

  136. Steve C says:

    Well, from across the Atlantic my impression has been that the whole show was, as we say, “as bent as a nine quid note”. (Used to be a nine-bob note when we had proper money!) OTOH, looking around, and especially at some of Another Ian’s links, suddenly there seems to be a pitter-patter of tiny factlets which could yet become a flood, so perhaps do not give up hope quite yet. 10/10 to whoever first thought of plotting the graphs going up to form an F-for-Frawd at the top!

    Hold onto a bit of that whisky budget – should you later have cause to celebrate I can recommend a small local (to me!) business who have one or two treats to make your eyes water, such as the Glenallachie Batch 3 at 58.2% … A pleasant mellow browse:

  137. E.M.Smith says:

    @Steve C:

    Perhaps I ought to have the Whiskey Of The Week posting open for folks to discuss their adventures in Attitude Adjustment & Tongue Washing ;-)

  138. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and per the slow pace of the “trickle” of evidence. Just remember what can be said of most Americans: “We may be slow, but we can do mediocre work!” ;-)

  139. Another Ian says:

    “A ratings collapse at FoxNews;

    The plan depends on “keeping most of their unfashionable, racist current audience,” plus picking up some liberals. Liberals who apparently want CNN-style liberalism but with Shrieking Eagle graphics and country music in the bumpers. ”

    Remind me – haven’t I heard something about getting woke? (/s)

  140. Another Ian says:

    Extradition treaty status?

    “Former Google Chief Eric Schmidt Applies to Become Citizen of Cyprus”

  141. Another Ian says:

    Some light relief – way O/T though

    In case you think you have trouble with Captchas – try this

  142. Another Ian says:

    “I keep vacillating between Trump losing because of the fraud due to the indescribable evil of the Left, and then thinking he will rightfully win because the fraud will be exposed and the perpetrators tried and punished if found guilty.

    This article gives me some confidence.


  143. E.M.Smith says:

    @Another Ian:

    Yeah, Fox is busy lighting the Thanksgiving BBQ under their goose…

    Like the Finnish Snipers captcha ;-0

  144. Compu Gator says:

    Wow!  Ms. “Mason Marikaa” is focused, poised, paces her presentation well, and makes only moderate use of (hand) gestures [*]. She reminds me of perhaps the best high-school teacher I ever had.

    So I wonder what else Ms. “Mason Marikaa” does in real life, and what’s her background [♥].

    Plus she’s a youthful slender beauty [⌛], who could broaden the televised Conservative Tent from its apparent domination by more-or-less-blueblood blondes (whether genuine or chemically assisted).

    Note * :

    Note ♥ : I have no idea where she’s from (and the touted Web seems no help), but the title of a famous 1991 Creole & Cajun cookbook suddenly came to mind: Who’s Your Mama, Are You Catholic, and Can You Make A Roux, by South-Louisiana culinary Grande Dame Marcelle Bienvenu. Rather than veering off-topic herein, it might be best for me to defer the link to 1 of E.M.’s Australian culinary entries.

    Note ⌛ : Perhaps consulting “Wonder Woman” Gal Gadot, a former Miss Israël and IDF fitness/combat readiness instructor who’s already in her mid 30s(!) with 2 children, for tips.

  145. Another Ian says:

    Terminology – no-one of official status has called the numbers for Biden

    So, in older terminology the “Presidential Pretender” rather than the “President-Elect”?

  146. E.M.Smith says:

    Or in modern terms: The President Wannabe?

  147. H.R. says:

    Compu Gator: So I wonder what else Ms. “Mason Marikaa” does in real life, and what’s her background [♥].

    Plus she’s a youthful slender beauty [⌛], who could broaden the televised Conservative Tent from its apparent domination by more-or-less-blueblood blondes (whether genuine or chemically assisted).

    Oh-ho-ho! Not only was ‘message received’ by our beloved Compu Gator, but methinks he is more than slightly smitten.

    “Compu Gator and Marika sittin’ in a tree.
    First comes love,
    then comes marriage.
    Then comes Compu Gator with a baby carriage.”

    OK, OK. I’m right there with you, bro. Do we duel or what? Gotta settle this like gentlemen, eh?.
    😜 😁😁
    Yeah, she’s a treat and she get’s it.

    The good news is that she’s not the only one. Candace Owens is another and there are even more.
    (Now what do we do, Compu Gator; coin flips?)

    P.S. – Mrs. H.R. already has given me permission to pursue Melania 💖💖💖. The problem I’m coming up against is how to get hold of a 40 or 50 carat flawless diamond that just maybe, might, could possibly get her to lose focus on President Trump long enough for me to make my pitch. So I’ve got the go-ahead, but it’s a major toughie to work my way through all the details 😜

  148. Steve C says:

    Another Ian – The Finnish Snipers thing is brilliant – I get those captchas all the time on the Tor browser, usually many times (Does that very slight shade change in the corner pixel of that square make it “part” of the pedestrian crossing in the next square? …). Incidentally, I am not the Steve C commenting in that thread. (It’s always strange to meet “yourself”!)

    May I suggest “The Old Pretender”? – We’ve used that, and the “young” version, over here and it seems to work. Or “PseudoPOTUS”?

  149. Another Ian says:

    “Here is why Liberals are not fully happy with the 2020 results”

    An early lesson that the grand plan for “One World” is already off the rails?

  150. Another Ian says:

    Reminder that the time machine is overdue for service (/s)

    “Data Conflict – Tens of Thousand of Pennsylvania Ballots Returned Earlier than Sent…”

  151. Another Ian says:

    I guess “Inconvenient reminder” in fact


    “The same data visualized brilliantly by this guy (/hat tip)

  152. Another Ian says:

    A couple of new Pointman’s up – first two at

  153. Another Ian says:

    It’s OVER.
    The algorithm has been figured out. Every time a Republican threshold was met this “glitch” would kick in and take Trump votes and transfer to Biden. It’s over.
    This is the smoking gun


  154. Another Ian says:

    “I’ve got a link to the video that explains the method on the following post. I thought I might last 10 minutes, but watched the whole hour +. “Biden wins” only if you believe that heavily Republican areas voted against Trump. And the more Republican the area, the stronger they voted against Trump. In a linear fashion.”

    And subsequent comments

  155. Another Ian says:

    “Why President Trump Deserved to Lose :-)”


    “For those not aware, Ms. Straughan is a Canadian pundit. She used to publish videos regularly but hasn’t for a long time. This new, hilariously cynical video is superb:”

  156. Another Ian says:

    Another “watcher” – (I haven’t as yet)

    “Fmr deputy PM John Anderson with Victor Davis Hanson – excellent US election & political analysis”

    Thus might be an Oz based perspective

  157. Another Ian says:

    “Electronic vote fraud equation revealed: In Michigan in 4 counties 138,000 Fake votes for Biden”

  158. Another Ian says:

    Hold your hat!

    Bloody Hell!!!

    “Frank Gaffney is on speaking about his new website

    The website allows you to visually change the fraud vote vs non-fraud vote counts by state down to the county level.
    He also explains the cyber-manipulation of votes.
    28 states are outsource their voting tabulation to Barcelona, Spain. The servers are tied to George Soros….”

  159. DoNoNorth says:

    Had an odd experience yesterday afternoon/evening during roughly the same time that YouTube was supposedly down over large areas. I have my Yahoo email account set to forward emails to a gmail account that then goes to my old BlackBerry Classic phone. Sometime during the afternoon all Trump campaign emails stopped coming to the phone.

    Checks of my Yahoo inbox showed lots of campaign emails received throughout the afternoon and evening. All non-Trump emails continued to show up on the BlackBerry during this time frame. Then in the late evening the campaign’s emails started showing up on my phone again and seem to be coming through like clockwork this morning.

    MOST curious!

  160. philjourdan says:

    @DoNoNorth – I forwarded my (not AOL) mail to my gmail account and then found all the Trump mail in the spam folder.

    I am not surprised.

  161. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    Two comments with f-bombs embedded in the URL ended up auto-trashed. I’ve discovered them and hauled them back out:

  162. p.g.sharrow says:

    @President-Elect-HR & Smith; Best wait until the votes have been counted and certified before you measure the drapes. 8-) I smell a changing in the wind.

    The history of the 2020 election has yet to be written. The script for the second act will be more entertaining then the first, so load up on refreshments and enjoy! …pg

  163. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    h/t Another Ian:

    I finally got time to watch the video you pointed at (that was shoved off to the bit bin due to the title…) and it is impressive. Special attention to the 55 minute mark where he starts to talk about non-Engineering stuff and points out who owns the non-profit that all the election directors belong to…

    Some specifics:

    The guy blowing the whistle gets banned from Twitter for 21 days by the folks who he’s blowing the whistle about?

    Votes stored as double floats? Why? On what planet does it make sense to store discrete integer events as a floating point number? Only if you want to do float math on them (like, oh, multiply and divide…)

    Linear decay of individual Trump votes with % Republican straight ticket? That’s just the “why do you rob banks” answer: Because that’s where the votes are. Trim 5% of Trump votes out of a hard Democrat precinct you risk having negative Trump votes. Trim 5% out of a 80% Trump district, hard to notice…

    A built in function to give proportionately more votes to one candidate? OMG. So it is a built in “feature” you can set to have Biden votes weighted up 50% and Trump votes weighted by 1/2? That needs to be forbidden to exist in any voting machine used in normal elections.

    And more…

    Anyone who hasn’t already watched this needs to watch it.

  164. V.P. Elect Smith says:

    the bitchute copy for when Youtube bans it…


    Interesting to note that when I just posted this, it went to the SPAM queue. Now this is despite the I.P. number being mine and the email address being valid and prior posting by this name being approved. That only leaves the link or the comment about the link… Wonder if someone is trying to suppress bitchute… -E.M.Smith

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