The Big Steal

It’s post election time. That time when the Democrats find more dead voters to recruit for any “close” election they lost. Broward County Florida is top of the news, but in Arizona and Georgia it looks like a lot of “found” ballots moving Democrats (and ONLY Democrats) ahead in the final count.

Recruiting Dead Voters

Recruiting Dead Voters

It is my opinion that a complete audit needs to be done on ANY close race. Not just a recount, but a validation that every one of those voters is a real, live, physically resident citizen voter – and did vote at the time and place and with the method recorded.

I’m fed up with the Democrats pushing to register every illegal alien they can find (why else push “motor voter” so hard) fight purging dead people from voting rolls, and pushing for lots and lots of “early voting” (the easier to buss your folks around to several voting places… and don’t say you don’t do it, Dems, you’ve been spotted before. Then those early / mail in ballots are just soooo much easier to fix up.)

Vote Early & Vote Often Dems

Vote Early & Vote Often Dems

H/T Larry Ledwick here:

https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2018/11/06/24-hours-to-decisions-known/#comment-103528

Where he pointed to the police being called in to secure the ballots. Some of the Talking Heads covered it. You can tell the bias as they claim one side or the other is the Perp. We ought to get some clarity Saturday morning.

As of now, the official in charge of the count (Brenda Snipes) who was supposed to have all absentee ballots counted inside 1/2 hour of polls closing hasn’t got it done days later, can’t say how many more ballots there are to count, has had replacement ballots made (for supposedly “damaged” ones) without anyone watching, and has a history of law breaking.

I’d sure like to know just how a big bunch of ballots get damaged… (“Oh, look, this one is damaged, it has a vote for a Republican on it…” )

It is my opinion folks need jail time for this kind of thing.
That IS what the law specifies for it.

Can't just steal an election

Can’t just steal an election

There’s just too much riding on things now to let the Business As Usual democratic fraud happen this time. We don’t need the Chicago School on a national scale, even if Obama is schooled in it and leading the party.

Memes copied from Gab.com humor page. I cold not identify attribution beyond that, but no copyright was observed being asserted.

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About E.M.Smith

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65 Responses to The Big Steal

  1. H.R. says:

    I know voter fraud has been uncovered in every election cycle. What I can’t recall are any arrests or jail time meted out for the fraud. That is the problem.

    The result is the same as it would be if, when the cops catch a burglar climbing out the window with his loot, they say, “Hey! That’s illegal,” but then step back and let the burglar continue on his way with his loot.

    What would you expect; that burglary rates will go down? Of course not. So what do we have now? We have off-the-charts brazen election fraud. It won’t stop until the perp walks start.

    At most, I vaguely recall some fines handed down for some brazen election fraud, and possibly, just maybe, the person removed from working elections, but those are just hazy recollections. There’s definitely nothing specific that I can recall.

  2. cdquarles says:

    Voter fraud has been a problem in my state. It has been aggressively prosecuted (Jeff Sessions did, among others, including some within the last few cycles) when there has been/is sufficient evidence. I know of people who have been imprisoned. One such case, now about 20 years old was a bit of a travesty. The county clerk involved got 36 months in the Fed Pen. The politician behind the scheme got 6 months probation.

  3. Ian W says:

    Voter fraud is an attack on the foundation of the United States. It should be dealt with as such anyone even peripherally involved should receive a mandatory minimum imprisonment of 10 years. I would be tempted to add another year for each fraudulent vote. Non-citizens voting should be immediately deported. At the moment voter fraud is dealt with as a ‘clever scheme’ with giggling busloads of multi-voters secure in the knowledge that they will never be even investigated. Nobody queries voter rolls that exceed the number of residents in a precinct – failure to query such a status is being peripherally involved in voter fraud and mandatory 10 years imprisonment for the dilatory elections officer. It is really time that this was taken totally seriously.

  4. John F. Hultquist says:

    Over many years, since the Clintons appeared, my distrust of Democrats has grown. What started as mild dislike of national politicians is no longer mild, and has filtered down to people I know and deal with regularly.

    The voting mess is not in my backyard so it provokes a general dislike.
    However, this past week I encounter folks who were adamant that Trump deserved to be crucified because he claimed to be a “white nationalist”, approved of “white supermacists”, “hated Jews”, and “went around grabbing females by the ‘pussy’ .”

    Following is a thought about just one of these.
    I pointed out that he did not say “white nationalist”, but rather just used the term “nationalist.” One person looked up the definition of the word, and the 1st entry was, indeed, the way Trump used it, and then explained it to those accusors.

    This wasn’t good enough. The two folks I was with, insisted that Trump knew the word “nationalist” was a “dog whistle” term for his racist supports and he use it deliberately to rile them up. Further, he and his supports are evil.
    When I told them I didn’t know a nationalist and a racist were equivalent, they accused me of being poorly educated.
    I suspect from their Democratic/liberal/progressive cesspool, I appear so.

  5. Larry Ledwick says:

    Yes this constant redefinition of common terms by the left is an intentional effort to create just that sort of divide. After being immersed in that sort of intentional miscommunication long enough people begin to think what they “know” is right and proper and that anyone that disagrees with them (even someone with 50+ years of experience with the word) must be stupid or poorly eductated when the truth is exactly the opposite. The best defense I have found is that I have some old print dictionaries that predate the current era of flexible definitions. Sometimes if you cite several highly rated dictionaries that are 30-40 years old you can get someone’s attention but it is a rare event. The mental preconditioning and poisoning of the thought process appears to terminal.

    Thanks to social media we are actually getting exposed to the hidden self we seldom used to see in face to face interactions and a lot of us are discovering that folks we used to think were smart and reasonable people have slowly been taken over by a totally deranged view of the world. I work in IT and quite a lot of them are strongly liberal in view point. There is literally one person in my shop who is both strongly liberal who I can actually have a reasonable intellectual discussion with on this sort of things. A couple others are out in the weeds completely and we simply do not discuss social/political issues.

    If this schism continues to develop there is only one outcome for out society and I dread the day that harvest comes in.

    My only hope is that the recent walk away campaign shows that at least on the sane edges the folks on the left are beginning to see the insane hypocrisy and manipulation of the left and turning their back on it. I worry that not enough will escape the indoctrination.

  6. Pouncer says:

    “Yes this constant redefinition of common terms by the left is an intentional effort to create just that sort of divide.”

    I blame Daylight Savings Time.

    For centuries the word “noon” meant that part of the day when the spinning Earth brought the surface most directly under the sun. Before noon the sun appears in the East, and after noon it shone from the West. But when the sun was highest overhead, neither rising nor sinking, our forefathers called that moment “noon”.

    But the government undertook to seasonally and situationally re-define the word “noon”. In summer, “noon” means that the sun is about 15 degrees East of zenith. “Noon” in the government’s scheme means that the sun will keep rising for another hour, more or less. “Noon” means whatever the government SAYS it means, and if they want to define it year round, or day to day, the powers-that-be claim the power to alter the old definitions as convenient.

    So too can “Marriage” be subject to the government’s power over the dictionary. Or “Boy” or “Girl” or “Man” or “Woman” or “Sex” or “Gender” or “Baby” or “Family” or “Parent” or “Home”. Concepts that exist in all languages and have for thousands of years can be rendered indistinct and the corresponding words in general use can be redefined every noon hour, or so.

  7. Pouncer says:

    Imagine if states had systems analogous to the Electoral College. (or as games in a series) Each precinct or county counts votes within its own jurisdiction. A “win” within the subsidiary territory counts as one “game” in the higher series. So if, for example, the State of Florida has 67 counties, and only two have difficulty running elections, well, the outcome for state wide offices might say 45 “games” for the Red team, 10 “games” for the Blue, and only two games still un-decided. Clearly the Red team is more consistent in accomplishing its goals in general contests. That the score in 10 Blue-favored games involved millions of votes while the scores in Red-leaning games were somewhat lower scoring might be as irrelevant as if the 2nd game of the World Series of Baseball was decided 43 to 19, and all the other six games more normal of 2 to 4, 1 to 3, etc. It’s not that the total number of votes, or runs scored, doesn’t matter. But it IS a way for the superior team to show consistent abilities to win.

  8. H.R. says:

    Pouncer, I really like your idea about counting counties, but that gives the vote to land area, not people. If three counties have just one resident each (I know, I know, but the extreme example is to make it clear) then you have 3 counties that don’t really reflect the will of the people in the final vote.

    But if counties got ‘electoral votes’ according to their populations, then that would curtail counties with a dominant city from controlling the entire state.

  9. E.M.Smith says:

    I have found that the only hope is direct strong (and to some extent rude by classical definitions of polite and rude – i.e. directly telling someone they are wrong is rude) statement of The Truth.

    So some will remember an exchange with Serioso a while back where he was affronted by my calling the Invading Mob an “Invasion”, and I pointed out “Yes, just like invasive species or” some other example like “home invasion” robbery. THEN went the extra step to point out his ASSUMPTION that the world “military” was there when it was not; as that was the only way his limitation of the usage would fit reality. Point out the correct usage for his belief.

    Essentially you must put their nose in the poo of their ASSUMPTION.

    So for “Nationalist = Racist” I would state: “They are two different words for a reason. Nation means your national affiliation group and race means your race not your affiliation. You conflate political group with genetic group and that is just wrong. I am very much pro-America with ALL of the black, white, Hispanic, Asian and all the rest of the races and peoples in it. That is not racist and you are confused to use it that way.”

    Then shut up. They will protest and sputter and do all sorts of things. Do not engage. First one to talk loses and attempting to make your case more just gets them more set in their attempt to win. After they sputter and protest and finally challenge you (so you pretty much must speak) at that time offer guidance to authority: “I’m sorry you have those issues, but just consult a good dictionary like the OED, American Heritage, or Merriam-Websters and you can clarify it for yourself.” You have now: 1) Made it clear YOU are not going to indulge their political fantasy view. 2) It is a “let’s you and him fight” between them and Authority. 3) Put the burden on them to prove they are not wrong / daft / silly / politically biased (and impossible case to make as that is what they are).

    Usually they shut up then. A few may actually catch the clue, but frankly I no longer care. Not my problem if they have untidy minds. The world is full of such and I can’t fix them all. If they continue to rant at me I’ll just tell them, politely, that if they can’t use the language accurately I’m not interested in what they have to say, and “Oh, look at the time, I have something I need to do.” (i.e. leave….) and then leave. It is a gentle form of shunning, and the snowflakes are very sensitive to shunning – they can’t stand to be outcast and simply must have a support group or an enemy to attack (they can’t stand being alone inside their own skin), so usually it’s effective. Basically kind of saying “I’d rather be alone {a horror to them} than speak with you as you are so inept.”

  10. E.M.Smith says:

    The problem with “electoral votes by county based on population” is that population WOULD still dominate. IIRC, Alpine County California has about 1070 population. San Francisco (City & County) has 884,000. There are not 883 more Alpine Counties to balance it out…

    The simple fact is that until and unless there is some way for the Rural parts of a nation to be separated from the Urban parts, then any “popular vote” will have Urban outcomes and those tend to the Big Government Socialism Handouts.

    Perhaps we need 3 houses of government. One elected “by the people” – straight popular vote so urban dominated. One “the County Representatives” – as it was in California before they made the Senate direct popular vote – so each county will tend to be dominated by the largest city(s) in it; but will have the specific County desires in mind. One elected by “each incorporated area” so San Francisco City gets one vote, while each little valley city of a few hundred or thousand also gets one vote, as does each incorporated county. This would broadly represent the rural areas as it would be dominated by the dinky towns and rural POB folks. Let the Cities propose laws, the Counties must agree / veto them, and the “all small” control funding them and also a veto.

    Well, it’s an idea…

  11. H.R. says:

    E.M.: “The problem with “electoral votes by county based on population” is that population WOULD still dominate.”

    Yeah, I thought of that even before I hit ‘Post,’ but I was stumped as to why the Electoral works on a National level, so I posted anyhow.

  12. E.M.Smith says:

    On the National level it still “has issues” so California and New York dominate and if the Dems can flip Texas or Florida they get a permanent lock in. It only works now due to their being a lot of small population States with an agricultural base to the State Economy. IMHO it is a big part of the Agenda 21-30 push to put everyone in cities. To lock in that orientation.

    One “fix” for that (which would be hard to implement as the States set their own rules and once flipped Dem they will not set fair rules) would be to ban “winner takes all” on the electoral votes. Make it at least proportionate to the vote. As it stands now, LA basin & SF Bay Area determine ALL the California electoral college votes.

  13. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh, and it is one delegate for each Senator and House seat, so Dinky States still get their 2 for the Senate and then the House is semi-population based, but with an integer effect. It isn’t a big add, but there is some added leverage to the smallest.

    I could easily see some kind of add where you hand out the delegates based on a better de-weighting of population effects. Something like a Population / sq-mile limiter… Or just stop counting non-citizens in the census for House seats…

  14. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well there is one other fix – but the Left ignores its logical outcome.

    “When” they get the revolution they are trying to create, 98% of the casualties and destruction will be in the big cities. The solution is to just let them burn, and let them stew in their own juices.

    Same goes for if they manage to provoke a nuclear war – where will the nuclear devastation be most severe? It will be the cities cut off from their food supplies and essential materials from the heart land who depend on just in time delivery of all their critical needs.

    I see it as sort of like the r/K genetics issue – sooner or later they will provoke a massive culling of their own kind due to their stupid policies. By a very large margin it will be the practical deplorables who will survive and the progressive douche nozzles who will perish.

    The bad news, is they will also take a lot of good people with them and destroy 200 years of development and progress when the tab comes due.

    I am rapidly moving towards a “sucks to be you” attitude toward the hard Left and the consequences of their policies.

    You think shit and needles in the streets is a problem wait until the homeless are dying of antibiotic resistant diseases or Ebola – it will be the new black plague and there is nothing anyone will be able to do to stop it once it goes exponential and saturates response services.

  15. Larry Ledwick says:

  16. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like Florida is going to do a recount.

    AFP news agency
    ‏Verified account
    @AFP
    2 hours ago
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    #BREAKING Florida orders machine recount in contested Senate, governor races, official says

    AFP news agency
    ‏Verified account
    @AFP
    21 minutes ago
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    #UPDATE Florida authorities ordered a statewide recount in the contentious races for US Senate and governor, amid tit-for-tat accusations of fraud from the candidates — plunging the state once again into election uncertainty

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-orders-recount-senate-governor-races-192532943.html

  17. Pouncer says:

    The Electoral College is a US Federal Constitutional requirement. “Winner Take All” contests within the state to award Electors to the College is constitutional, but not required. Nebraska and Maine do things differently (Nebraska also has a uni-cameral legislature — it’s an unusual place.)
    A state could amend it’s own processes to split up Electors. Anybody from New York or California griping about the E.C. might ought to face questions about why they don’t better allocate their own power among internal, state level, factions instead of trying to “fix” the constitution.

    Direct election of US Senators is (recently) constitutional, but stupid. The 21st Amendment shows that stupid ideas are not necessarily permanent. The 17th Amendment could be repealed as easily as the 18th has been.

    A great deal of discussion now uses the term “Gerrymander”. Most of those using it don’t really know what it means. A problem in avoiding perceptions of unfair boundaries is that various constituencies of the population VOTE more or less regularly than others. Say the Plaid party competes with the Paisley party. The population is evenly divided between the two. A jurisdiction, based on population, is entitled to two seats. In the external view of social justice, one seat ought to be allocated (or earned) by each party. In the real world, the Plaid party — tending as they do to believe their system works pretty well for most people most of the time, so long as everybody does their own bit — votes nearly every election, and turns out about 10% of their eligible voters. The Paisley party — tending to believe the system is rigged, too many people don’t get a fair outcome, and everybody is being tasked to do too much already — tends to exhibit their discouraged attitude by skipping many elections, ordinarily turning out only about 8% of their eligible voters. In order to get a “fair” outcome representative of the POPULATION, lines must be drawn that cluster odd pockets of VOTERS — that are by intent and design “safe” seats for particular factions. Were a rational process to divy up territory by population alone respecting only such natural features as rivers, highways, and municipal boundaries; gathering precincts and districts for “compactions” of area within perimeter; and disregarding party, race, economics, etc — then those with greater faith in the process of selecting their own governance (and more to lose by experiments with changing processes) will ALWAYS outvote the discouraged, the disappointed, and the self-disenfranchised.

  18. Larry Ledwick says:

    Steph Retweeted
    Charlie Kirk
    ‏Verified account
    @charliekirk11
    Nov 8
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    Voter fraud is real:

    Over 60% of Michigan counties had more registered voters than citizens
    This same irregularity occurred in 76% of states and 15% of U.S. counties
    Over 3.5 million reported suspicious or fraudulent registered voters reported in 2016 election

  19. H.R. says:

    @LarryL.: Unless History of Feminism and similar SJW degrees have a strong underpinning of survival techniques and graduates of such programs are wont to live off the grid, I think that cohort might be at a distinct survival disadvantage should it come to pass that the SHTF.

    To condense your very fine observations, those who deliberately have put themselves in a position of dependency have put themselves at the top of the “Ain’t Gonna Make It” list. Those who are dependent and in densely populated areas are at the very top of the list.

    Hmm.. I wonder how many Dems are active participants in prepping? I’d imagine it’s not a huge number.

    @E.M. – I think there are some good solutions, not necessarily perfect solutions, that would solve the problem of the 800 pound gorilla cities dominating the vote. Kicking around potential fixes is interesting. It’s kind of like the discussions the nation’s founders must have kicked around before settling on a Constitutional Republic with separated powers.

    The key really is informed, engaged voters and they need to be informed that government is a problem to be solved, not a solution to problems.

  20. J Martin says:

    Florida will no doubt be ready for the recount as they have now had sufficient time to remove thousands of republican votes and replace them with democrat votes. I think we can expect an announcement of a significant democrat win shortly.

  21. E.M.Smith says:

    @J. Martin:

    IF the suit goes forward with vigor,a bunch of absentee ballots with ONLY the same finger prints on them and the same ink used would go a long way to showing the fraud. Forensics needs application here.

    @Per Prepping:

    Spouse wants to be near an urban center, I want a “get away”. We’ll likely compromise with a place 10 minutes out of town, or get something just on the edge and I’ll pick up some “empty acres” more boonies oriented and an RV. In a worst case Aw Shit, we get in the RV and abandon the rental in the urban collapse area…

    With some dirt that includes a big puddle (called ‘lakes” there and all over the place) a decent amount of fish and gator jerky can be gotten each year… (In a collapse the “rules” on how to fish and not catching gators go away…). Then with a bit of dirt and the regular water there, plant foods are trivial to grow. Kudzu is edible and it grows as a very dense “tons / acre” weed there if not actively suppressed. While Kudzu “greens” and gator are not my #1 Meal Goal in life, I’m OK with it… (And remember a few chickens working over an acre or two of kudzu & bugs will make a lot of edibles in a year…)

    Compare the SJW / Antifa crowd in downtown Miami… The tropical diseases will have them thinned out in a hurry if the simple starvation from lack of tofu and imported kale doesn’t get them first. Ranting in the streets wont deliver iced latte no matter what they do…

  22. H.R. says:

    @E.M.: You mentioned possibly a patch of land and an RV a bit more than a year ago while you were mulling over various options.

    The first two weeks we were in Florida, we stayed in Winter Haven and visited back and forth with my sister in Lakeland. The terrain we saw heading a south while being not too far west of Orlando was al pretty much the same.

    I couldn’t believe the mix of open acreage around the developed areas and even the many islands or raw acreage surrounded by fairly developed areas. I noted that the raw plots seemed to be unsuitable for development or farming but looked fine for a trailer. As a matter of fact, I noted severl large lots with just a trailer and power line.

    You should be able to find some acreage around Orlando that’s very reasonable, though probably a bit higher than a bit further south and central. I looked a plots with houses and was surprised at the reasonable prices.

    Anyhow, some some strategically placed fill, a few thousand in drainage pipe and a septic tank. a concrete pad and you will be all set for a very reasonable sum.

  23. ossqss says:

    @EM, I have about 20 acres 10ish miles East of 75 on SR 70 if ya wanna practice. Active power (temporary box was there when I bought it), lake (with stocked Tilapia), well, and streetlight all included on a privately owned gated road with nobody else on it. BTW, it needs bush hogged while your at it ;-)

  24. E.M.Smith says:

    @H.R.:

    I was especially fond of Polk County and south (Davenport and on). Then my Florida Friend grew up out around Terrytown / Center Hill. I think that’s the W edge of Lake Co? over toward I-75. We drove out there to look at it once and in about 30 miles you are in “way remote”. Something about a swamp and not suited for agriculture “nearby” ;-) Out off / near SR 50.

    @Ossqss:

    Might well take you up on that! Liked the fishing on the Tampa side…

    One of the fun things about near Davenport (somewhere south of it I think…) was that there was a patch of semi-desert. Sand with cactus in it! Still gets rain, but the water drained out so fast it had long dry to deal with too. Don’t know if I can find it again, though. I was sort of wandering around when I found it… No map, no GPS, no experience in the area. Took a couple of hours to work my way back out of it too. As I’m extremely hateful of mosquitoes, one of the TBD is figuring out what is the optimal mix of “near water” and yet “away from mosquitoes”. Lake front, or big sandy…

    Could be that I end up with 2 places. One with water and fishing to visit, the other without mosquitoes to spend “quality time”…

  25. ossqss says:

    @EM, let me know if you find any Skeeter free zone in Florida. I am moving there. Been searching for it since 86.

  26. Larry Ledwick says:

    Ummmm try google maps at this lat long.
    28.187315, -81.582583

  27. gallopingcamel says:

    H.R. is right. Until we start putting election fraudsters in jail we will get more and more of it.

    Same goes for crooks like Hillary Clinton, James Comey, John Brennan and the rest of the people who are conspiring to frame Donald Trump. Unless these folks go to jail every Republican president will be harassed by the “Deep State” unless he caves.

    Don’t stop there. Let’s jail the creepy porn lawyer and his female accomplices who tried to frame Brett Kavanaugh.

    Don’t forget Mike Nifong. He tried to ruin a bunch of Duke university lacrosse players and merely got disbarred. He should have been indicted.

    What about all the crooked prosecutors who lied to destroy senator Ted Stevens? What about the crooks who destroyed Arthur Andersen along with 55,000 jobs? These prosecutors should have gone to jail but now they have top jobs in federal and state DoJs. The book that names these crooks is:
    “License to Lie” by Sydney Powell

    One of the liars is Andrew Weissman currently serving on Robert Mueller’s team

    This nation can become Venezuela in thirty years if we let crooks continue to corrupt our institutions.

    I challenge the good folks here to list the people I have overlooked.

  28. gallopingcamel says:

    “Fair Game” starring Sean Penn and Naomi Watts is now on Netflix. I would not have paid to see this movie but it is effectively free since one of my sons has me listed on his Netflix account.

    I watched this movie this evening and really enjoyed it even though I knew it was “Bush Lied, People Died” propaganda.

    The movie portrays Scooter Libby as the creepy crook who “Outed” Valerie Plame

    Somehow they forgot to mention that Richard Armitage was the leaker yet he was not punished. Scooter Libby was the fall guy but was pardoned by George Bush for a process crime similar to what was used to destroy Mike Flynn. One wonders why Richard Armitage is not in legal jeopardy….I suspect that he is a loyal member of the “Deep State”.

    The DoJ is routinely being used to destroy people like Scooter Libby and Mike Flynn while exonerating crooks like the Clintons, the Podestas, Debbie Wassermann Schultz and all their accomplices. Hollywood is on board to sell the all the lies and they are doing a great job.

  29. E.M.Smith says:

    @Ossqss:

    On the edge of Orlando, in an RV park on 192, we didn’t have a mosquito problem. Similarly, my Florida Friend lives on a lake with few / no mosquitoes bothering us. I think it has to do with lots of active mosquito abatement. (mosquito fish planting, draining standing water not in the lake, spraying, …)

    @G.C:

    I just think of it as “Opposition Research” when watching obviously biased and lying media / movies. Analyze their methods, look for an note the lies and how they are packaged… think of inoculation strategies against it…

    It would not take 30 years. I can be as short as one term. The vote is +/- maybe 5% in any year. It would only take a few percentage move and then a hard press “Lock it down” effort. (That was Hillary’s job…) – then maybe 5 years of slow decay for the exponential to get bad…

  30. gallopingcamel says:

    @John F. Hultquist,
    “I pointed out that he did not say “white nationalist”, but rather just used the term “nationalist.”

    You are wasting your time talking to the racist bigots who dominate the “Left”. They try to transfer their failings onto you. If you can’t bring yourself to ignore them, I recommend treating them with scorn and derision.

    Unless you are skilled in martial arts that may be risky since many leftists are prone to violence.

  31. gallopingcamel says:

    @Chiefio,
    “It would not take 30 years. I can be as short as one term.”

    We could have become Venezuela in a few years if Hillary had won. Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher slowed our slide down the slippery slope but they did not save us.

    Donald Trump may be a more effective and inspiring leader than Reagan or Thatcher but whatever he achieves is likely to be in vain if his successor is a Jimmy Carter, a Barack Obama or a Hillary Clinton.

    Sadly, our institutions have been corrupted by leaders from both parties since Ronald Reagan so our nation is at risk. While Donald Trump has achieved many things, he has done very little to reverse the corruption in our three letter agencies. Replacing Sessions may help with the DoJ and FBI but what about the other three letter agencies?

  32. gallopingcamel says:

    Ossqss,
    I am with Chiefio. Skeeter problems may exist in Florida if you live in the swamps of Alligator Alley but the civilized parts don’t have much in the way of bugs or serpents hanging from trees. I lived in Florida for ten years in Sarasota and Rockledge. Bugs were not a problem. I did see a couple of snakes, half a dozen alligators and a raccoon. All were well behaved.

    Now I live in North Carolina the bugs are more of a problem but not even close to what I experienced in New Jersey where I needed a couple of industrial grade “Bug Zappers” to keep my deck habitable. My zappers had trays to collect dead bugs and they needed to be emptied at least once a week.

    Bad as the skeeters were in Noo Joisy they were nothing compared to what I experienced in Schiedam (Holland) in a house that was seven meters below mean sea level. My (rented) house did not have fly screens on the windows and I never found a way to keep the skeeters out. Each night I would spray my bedroom from wall to wall and especially the drapes with fly killer two hours before going to bed.

  33. Larry Ledwick says:

    This is the real demographic time bomb that will sabotage our system of government, because these districts and others like them seeded by Obama’s forced immigration placement schemes share almost nothing with traditional American values and will work actively openly and with full local support to destroy the key elements of our government.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/08/districts-with-large-foreign-born-populations-sent-far-left-democrats-to-congress/

    It will be like a rising tide and there will be no holding it back unless immediate and concerted efforts are made to shift the world view of these new immigrants and to stop the influx of millions of lunatic leftist immigrants who have no love or respect for the American experiment in self limiting government and the idea of hard working self sufficient individuals being able to achieve to the limit of their abilities unhampered by oppressive government.

    We are witnessing the first storm clouds forming of a tempest which will destroy traditional America and leave a poisoned corrupt wasteland of gimme politics, and sectarian conflict. Fifty years from now America will look a lot like Mexico or the failed states of the EU.

    I wish I could see a way to prevent that out come but I frankly do not see any other end state.
    I really feel sorry for my younger friends who will have to endure that transition and collapse.

  34. gallopingcamel says:

    @Larry Ledwick,
    You nailed it!

    When states like New York or California become unaffordable to the middle class there is an exodus to states like Florida and Texas where there is no state income tax. You might imagine that people fleeing states that are over taxed and badly governed would appreciate policies that promote prosperity.

    Reality is a little different. Texas and Florida are trending Democrat owing to refugees from California and New York who still vote for the policies that destroyed their states.

  35. E.M.Smith says:

    @G.C:

    Once again I must protest. As one of those “soon to be California Refugees”, I’ll be voting hard core against those policies, not for them. IMHO, most of those escaping California are the more conservative folks.

    Yes, some will be liberal types, and many will be the ignorant middle voting for the largess and not knowing it brings the taxes, but I’ve seen little evidence that the California Migration is causal, and absolutely none that it is MORE causal that other effects.

    I think you will find a huge number of non-Americans deposited nation wide as more causal. No, I have no evidence, just a feeling that 50 Million “immigrants” ( 30 million illegal) will have more impact than single digit millions of Californians.

    Then there is the fact that the ENTIRE DEMOGRAPHIC of the millennials, Gen Xers, et. al. for 30 years has been run through a partisan indoctrination center of our schools and universities. That, too, is much more massive than some California escapees.

    I think in these cases “size matters” and they are order of magnitude larger than the California Exodus of Conservatives…

  36. gallopingcamel says:

    @Chiefio,
    Florida needs more people like you!

  37. H.R. says:

    Re Larry L’s post of AZ info:

    Jeezy PETE!!
    The CommieCrats are shamelessly taking advantage. “Suuuure… it’s OK to to vote. We need your vote and nobody checks, anyhow and nobody ever goes to jail. Go ahead. Give ’em an ID. Any ol’ ID will do. No worries.”

    That article says to me that those non-citizens are smart enough and aware enough to know that a non-citizen should probably not be voting in another country’s elections and it is probably a crime, but they are coached and encouraged to do it anyhow.

  38. H.R. says:

    Oh, and just exactly what sort of Corruptocrat accepts that ID?!?

  39. H.R. says:

    Oh that’s real badass and hard-nosed… a sternly worded letter from Bondi.

    What’s next, a very, very harshly worded letter sent by registered mail?
    Double secret probation maybe?

    /dripping sarcasm

  40. H.R. says:

    @gallopingcamel:
    Wrong!
    The World, let alone Florida, needs more people like Chiefio, if only for the recipes. The rest is a bonus.
    😜

    (Just messin’ wid ya in a friendly way, GC, and backing up your sentiments.)

  41. Larry Ledwick says:

    Maybe this is why the Dems are going no holds barred on election fraud this time around.
    (I have not confirmed this yet – it has only shown up on a couple of sites yet)

    AMERICA 🇺🇸DEPT of WINNING
    ‏@TheTrumpLady
    17 minutes ago
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    BREAKING: Justice Ruth Ginsburg Will Retire from the US Supreme Court in January, 2019. Her Melanoma Has Returned

  42. E.M.Smith says:

    Wow! I looked in the Wiki about her. Colon Cancer. Pancreatic Cancer. Now Melanoma. She’s toast.

    No wonder the Dems are all-in with ballot stuffing, stealing, fabricating, you name it; to swap the Senate. They will do ANYTHING to prevent another Trump Justice on the SCOTUS.

    I suggest that Republican Senators in States with Democratic governors make public announcements that they are in great health and love living; then always assure you are surrounded by loyal Republican Bodyguards – even when sleeping (and no big fluffy pillows…)

  43. E.M.Smith says:

    http://www.headlineoftheday.com/2018/11/08/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-will-retire-from-the-us-supreme-court-in-january-2019/

    looks like the same report of an Aide telling the story. It will likely take a few days to percolate to generate a firm denial or a tepid confirmation. And of course to hire a replacement Aide…

  44. philjourdan says:

    Now I see the reason that democrats are not even hiding their cheating (hoping the YSM will cover for them, which it is). Kavanaugh was lucky he was not picked for her seat. I think the left is going to go deadly with the RBG nominee. And I mean that literally.

  45. Larry Ledwick says:

    So how did Snipes end up as the official in charge of elections in Broward County?

    https://quodverum.com/2018/11/316/snipes-snapped.html

  46. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter and interesting observation about the new modern left

  47. Larry Ledwick says:

    Well this is interesting! So we have physical evidence of vote tampering – any likelyhood the Broward county Sheriff will do any thing with this?

    I hope there are grounds for Home Land Security to step in and seize all this evidence and lock it down under their election integrity mandate – not sure if that includes investigation and enforcement authority or if is only a directive to research and report.

    Tracybeanz Retweeted

    Sofia
    ‏@SManolesco
    3 hours ago
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    Evidence the boxes had been tampered with! We found these box tags in the parking lot by the trucks! This should absolutely not be outside the building because the numbers on them have to match what’s in the box! #SystemicSabotage #BrowardElection

  48. Larry Ledwick says:

    One of many I am sure – There should be full audit of all voters over 85 years of age as a first cut at eliminating this sort of voter fraud.

    hfinch63 Retweeted
    🇺🇸Veteran Hank 🇺🇸
    ‏@veteranhank
    6 hours ago
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    Broward County resident died in 2005, still an active registered Democrat voter, somehow voted by mail in August 28 Primary. One of many.

  49. Larry Ledwick says:

    🇺🇸Marine Nationalist in Tejas 🇺🇸 Retweeted

    Ali Alexander 🇺🇸
    ‏@ali
    6 hours ago
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    This is so insane. Our activists have found discard ballot box tags on the ground.

    We have no idea what’s going on in Democrat Broward County — #StopTheSteal 🇺🇸

    We need the damn @FBI

  50. Larry Ledwick says:

    If this is legitimate it explains a lot, apparently the Republicans signed a blank check for the Democrats to engage in voter fraud in any district which had substantial minority population.

    http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/end-of-1982-consent-decree-gop-finally-can-contest-vote-fraud-after-36-years/

    Could this mean that Trump has a clear deck to clean the Dems clock on voter fraud?

  51. Larry Ledwick says:

    Looks like this is legitimate! This also explains why the democrats keep screaming voter suppression over simple procedural checks and common sense controls of voter abuse.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/the-gop-just-received-another-tool-for-suppressing-votes/550052/

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/09/rnc-ballot-security-consent-decree-328995

  52. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:

    We Support 45
    ‏@WeSupport45
    3 hours ago
    More
    Replying to @realDonaldTrump
    BREAKING:
    Massive Voter Fraud discovered in Kyrsten Sinema Fake Win!
    The Arizona Senate seat was stolen!
    Over 8,000 of the mail in ballots had California & Nevada postmarks!
    We demand a recount & investigation @GOPChairwoman!
    Updates coming at http://ConservativeRevolutionRadio.com
    #ChopOn

    Now these could be legitimate if the people were true residents of the district they were voting in and forced to be out of state when it came time vote – but it does raise some questions.

  53. p.g.sharrow says:

    This is why our founders required every ballot cast to be on one day in person in your home town and precinct and require an immediate local count and declaration of the results. That is why the Democrats push for things that improve their ability to cheat. If they can they will, Winning is the “only thing” those that play fair are too stupid to win and ! …pg deserve to lose. The only difference this time is they are going for broke, They have become so contempt of appearances they are letting it all hang out to claim “We Win”!

  54. Larry Ledwick says:

    From twitter:
    Kim Anderson
    ‏@KimAndersonFNC
    Follow @KimAndersonFNC
    More
    Fox News confirms FL dept. of state asking feds to investigate possible violations of FL and federal election laws.

  55. Larry Ledwick says:

    Hmmm interesting!

    Laura Loomer
    ‏@LauraLoomer
    2 minutes ago
    More
    Hearing some rumors on the ground at the #BrowardCounty Supervisor of Elections office that the feds are going to sweep in on Friday and confiscate the ballots.

    First of all, shouldn’t that be an operation that is completely confidential, and why would the folks in the Broward County Elections office be aware of it?

    Yeah sure some actions are almost impossible to hide but still – leaker or intentional bird dog to flush the prey?

    Although I greatly appreciate Laura’s dogged reporting on stuff no one wants to talk about, I think if I were in her shoes I would either held this rumor confidential or only released it very late on the 15th or very early in the morning on the 16th. Why give them a tip off if they are up to something shady?

  56. Larry Ledwick says:

    Bree :)
    ‏@BreeTide
    12 minutes ago
    More
    Florida Department of State has found the DNC has altered mail-in ballots in four counties and referred the case to federal prosecutors.

    Making and/or altering mail-in ballots is a criminal offense.

  57. E.M.Smith says:

    This is going to be fun… Wonder when / if they will start in on other States / Counties using Florida as precedent / evidence of need.

  58. Larry Ledwick says:

    Mia Love in Utah is also taking legal action>
    In Utah, Republican first-term U.S. Representative Mia Love filed a lawsuit in Utah state court on Wednesday seeking to halt vote counting. She argued that election officials are not allowing poll monitors to challenge their findings during vote verification.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election/california-republican-concedes-utah-representative-sues-idUSKCN1NJ37V

  59. Larry Ledwick says:

    I love this phrase “Outside the margin of fraud”

    Rep. Matt Gaetz
    ‏Verified account
    @RepMattGaetz
    17 hours ago
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    Good news: Ron DeSantis and Rick Scott’s victory is outside the margin of fraud. Bad news: our election system was stress tested. I am concerned that Democrats may see how they will be able to steal a future election through lawsuits if they can’t win with the voters @LouDobbs

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