Why I like listening to Fringe Voices… Sometimes they point you at things you would otherwise not see.
Yes, driving across the country in the dead of night I like to listen to Coast To Coast AM on the radio. They have all sorts of kooks and nuts and other interesting folks on talking Crazy Talk that will literally “keep you awake at night”. That is, after all, the whole point when driving through the Arizona Desert at 3 AM …
Does that mean I believe that Space Aliens abducted someone’s poodle or that drinking coffee both causes and cures cancer? Nope, not at all. I DO believe it is entertaining, and that’s the whole point.
But from time to time a topic will be raised that causes a certain curiosity. Is there, in fact, some amount of truth to the “Story”? Occasionally there is. Those moments are their own special kind of experience. Discovering that something your bias originally wanted to toss in the BS Bucket is, in fact, grounded in reality. I’ve had many over the decades of driving coast to coast with Coast To Coast AM. (I liked it a lot when Art Bell was The Guy. George Noori is OK but not quite the same.)
So why bring this up?
I was following a chain of links that started with the Whatfinger site:
Which lead to the Lindell free speech site:
And under their TV tab a newsy show with an energetic talking head, Stew Peters:
He wanders around over a whole lot of turf in an hour and 11 minutes, while talking very fast and being a bit more excitable than my usual choices. But it was entertaining so I listened.
In there somewhere there’s a claim that airline pilots are dropping from side effects of the Covid shot interacting with blood clots and the stresses of flying an airplane.
Remember that Airline Pilots are given VERY frequent physical exams and must be in top physical condition to continue to fly. So claiming BOAC had 4 of them croak at about the same time would be a Big Deal if it were true. These are folks where “dropping dead on the job” can result in hundreds dead, so a great deal of effort goes into assuring that is an extremely rare event verging on non-existent.
Which got me wondering:
“IF that were true, seems like it would be known.”
So I went looking. Oddly, found confirmation at a site claiming to debunk the claim…
Basically says ~”Yes, it happened. 4 dropped dead almost at one time after the jab. But not to worry, it isn’t proven to be from the experimental shot. These things happen…”
Shared in the form of a voice recording on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter, an unidentified male says he has spoken to a “friend who’s a BA pilot” and explains “things are getting crazy” after three fellow pilots passed away (here , here and here).
“They’ve had the third BA pilot die in the last seven days, yeah? Third pilot dead in the last week,” says the man heard in the recording. “The first two guys were in their forties and fifties; this guy, mid-thirties, perfectly fit, no underlying conditions. He gets his second jab and he’s dead within days, exactly the same with the first two.
“Because of this, BA are now in crisis talks with the government about whether to allow vaccinated pilots to fly. The issue with that of course is that about 80%, according to my friend in BA, 80-85% have been injected.”
Reuters presented the claims to British Airways, which said they were unfounded and that no such talks were underway with the government. The spokesperson, however, confirmed the authenticity of the four condolence books, as four company pilots had recently passed away. “Our thoughts are with their family and friends,” they said, adding that none of the deaths was linked to vaccines.
In a statement to Reuters, the UK’s Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) also denied any such crisis talks with Britain’s flagship air carrier.
“We have not been made aware of deaths of BA pilots after receiving the Covid-19 vaccine and have not had discussions with BA or other airlines, about preventing pilots from flying after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine,” said Dr. Sarah Branch, the director of vigilance and risk management of medicines for the MHRA. “There are currently no restrictions on aviation or other industries and activities post vaccination.
So, OK… This “denial / confirmation” confirms the basic facts of the vaccinations and the deaths. But just denies that they are having panic talks about it. So if you just sweep stuff under the rug and ignore it that makes it false? OK…
You just gotta luv the way they dance around the reality of Dead Pilots to “debunk” the “claim” that the company is in “panic talks” about the Dead Pilots. Why panic? Why talk about it? We’re happy to just ignore it… /snark;
Four is such a small number. Think of the majority who didn’t die…(yet?)…
Besides, anyone who died from the jab can fill out a Yellow Card… /sarc;
“Our advice remains that the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risks in the majority of people. It is still vitally important that people come forward for their vaccination and for their second dose when invited to do so.
“We ask anyone who suspects they have experienced a side effect linked with their COVID-19 vaccine to report it to the Coronavirus Yellow Card website.”
False. British Airways is not in “crisis talks” with the British government about vaccinated pilots. Four pilots have recently died – and British Airways says none of these is linked to vaccines.
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our work to fact-check social media posts here .
Thanks, Reuters, for confirming the basic truth of the dead pilots and all that; while turning yourself inside out to “debunk” that anyone at the Airline is in “crisis talks” about it as they are busy sweeping it under the rug.
And that’s why I listen to Fringe Voices. Sometimes they point at interesting things once you “Dig Here!” a little.
“Nothing to see here folks… move along, move along…”